Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>54689913
Soon

I hope

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>>54689863
>chaos doesn't use the Imperial Aquila

>>54689928
I wish, but Arbites for Necromunda seems more likely to me.

>>54689913
>>54689920
Imperium Secundus was Guilliman's Empiure during the heresy because he couldn't contact the emperor
>>>54689920
Compared to FW it is, because china doesn't have regulations

On the flip side, what faction are you surprised is as popular as it is? Doesn't have to actually be very popular, just more well liked then you think it should be
Hard mode: Don't bitch about Tau

>>54689946
>9
dark eldar because chaos should have edgy people and the models are a pain in the ass to transport
t. 3rd ed player of DE

>>54689946
Ultramarines

They're just so fucking boring.

They used to be a cool Roman legion in space. Now they're just the Space Marineiest Space Marines to ever Space Marine.

http://www.mirandairene.com
Is this a good place to get recasts?

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Nth for WE finally getting the love they deserve

Could I get some advice on my 2k WE list?

Brigade Detachment 9CP
HQ
Kharne
Dark Apostle
[Spoiler] Exalted Champion [/Spoiler]

TROOP
10 Cultists w/ pistols
10 Cultists w/ pistols
10 Cultists w/ pistols
10 Cultists w/ pistols
8 Berzerkers w/ duel chains, icon and claws
8 Berzerkers w/ duel chains, icon and claws

ELITE
Helbrute w/ fist and scourge
Helbrute w/ fist and scourge
5 Terminators w/ fist and combi-bolter

FAST
Spawn
Spawn
Spawn

HEAVY
8 Havocs w/ 4 Heavy Bolters
Mauler w/ Lashers
Mauler w/ Magma

This list is 1895 but there is 105 set aside for the Exalted Champion and potentially an extra spawn. Couldn't afford rhinos which is why there are lacking.

>>54689979
>Those lone spawn

You really trying to just give out first blood?

>>54689976
should be the ship captain, Lorretta-san

>>54689990
Khorne cares not, m8
looks like a fluffy list anyway

>>54689990
They are cheap and allow me 9CP. Lone spawn do more than you might think especially if you hide them under a rock.

I feel like cultist spam is cheating the system

>Night Lords Battalion 1500pts 80PL
>HQ
Jump Pack Lord with Lightning Claws
Jump Pack Sorcerer with Combi-Plas and Power Sword

>Troops
Melee Cultist x10 w/Flamer and Shotgun
Melee Cultist x10 w/Flamer and Shotgun
Shooty Cultist x10 w/Heavy Stubber
Shooty Cultist x10 w/Heavy Stubber
Shooty Cultist x10 w/Heavy Stubber

>Elite
Terminators x10 w/Combi-Plas and Lightning Claw
Hellforged Contemptor w/Fist, Chainfist, and Soulburner x2

>Fast Attack
Warp Talons x10
Dreadclaw Drop Pod

>Heavy Support
Havocs x10 w/Autocannon x4 and Combi-Plas

>>54689966
It's not the cheapest

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Wanting to make a lore-friendly Thousand Sons army, what unit choices are available?

The original rule of thumb I decided to go by was anything that wasn't mutated but considering the current lineup of chaos models, that's fairly hard to do.

I thought possibly things like forgefiends could be reasoned but what about a naught? They don't make sense but maybe it could be a psyker? I've seen art for them. I was also considering Black Legion Rhinos that would have been given as payment (considering the mercenary nature in the lore)

>>54689966

Yes. His/Her stuff is good quality, but as pointed out its not the cheapest. I actually have Cataphractii axes on the way right now from her. Just shoot them an email asking for PayPal with out order number in the subject

>>54690013
I don't mind, honestly. It's more the quality I'm worried about. FW doesn't stock the WE termie upgrade pack anymore but this site has it.

>>54690012
Those cultists will have a larger negative buff to leadership than they have leadership

>>54690014
units of 9 or 18
tzaangors rather than cultists
no ahriman unless his warband
Get the old FW TS dread as rubric of ahriman would stop helbrutes happening
Spawn with tzaangor heads maybe

>>54690017
Sweet, thanks.

>>54690012
>cultist spam
>not IW or BL
try again.

>>54689954
>the models are a pain in the ass to transport

newbie Dark Eldar player here, having such a nice time painting the models and putting my lists together, absolutely dreading taking them to a game, especially when I have an equal sized pointswise but far more compact Marine force

Its not helped that I've gone all in on Reaver Jetbikes

>>54690002
Kick a small rock on the ground and get dug into a hole by a monstrous mutated naked beast. How terrifying

>>54690039
Shame we can't get suicide cultists from FW, those were lit in dark crusade, also who else wants cultists to die to summon units like in chaos rising

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>>54690026
>cultists have 6Ld
>NL penalty caps at -3
>-3 is larger than 6

>>54689946
Imperial Guard. But I know thats just me personally not finding them interesting in playstyle or aesthetics.

>>54689913
Where the fuck do I find the stats for a relic blade?

>>54690053
You can stack it up to -7 don't know if you have though.

>>54690051
Totally agree. KDK had a great concept, shame it didn't find its way to 8e.

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>>54690067

No. You can't.

>>54690069
Here's to hoping we'll get some buffs to it in chapter approved, or some summoner HQ who doesn't know smite so does not displease Khorne

>>54690079
the -3 cap is only from the chapter tactic, penalties from other sources can push it further.

>>54690079
-3 Night Lords
-1 Icon of Despair
-1 Raptors
-2 Butcher Cannon
-? Spawn
-? Belakor

>>54690086
Any Chaos character can summon, so Lords, Dark Apostles, and even Kharn can call their warp friends for help.

Can Khornze Berzerkers actually take dual chainswords?

My reading of their index entry was that they could only replace their pistol with a chainaxe?

Obviously the extra extra attack from chainsword would be unreal

>>54690101
Yeah they use their base attacks on chainaxes and get the extra from the chainsword.

>>54690079

Does a Night Lords raptor squad get a -2 by themselves?

>>54690062
Never mind. Captain in terminator armor has it

>>54690109
Absolutely. Auto-take in any tournament list and can be combo-ed with any other units in this edition.

>>54689979
Do we know anything about the Exalted Champion yet?

whats the point of chapter tactics? Can't you just make a force with a detactment of world eaters for beserkers and a detactment of Night lords for scary raptors?

>>54690079
It still makes me sad.

>>54690090
It's -1 for both spawn and belakor so -9 maximum.

>>54690125
he rerolls what the lord doesn't

So what units do you think will get price drops in the new CSM codex? What units are really just too pricey right now for what they do?

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>>54690125
Unless something new came up that I don't know of, it should be similar to what Vrosh Tattersoul gets, since his 8e datasheet has the Exalted Champion keyword. Reroll fail wound rolls in the fight phase.
Sorry for the shitty pic, I know better ones have turned up here but I forgot to save them.

>>54690158
Re-roll wounds? Anyone know point values?

>>54690143
to buff the units so that the paint scheme actually matters, and thus forcing you into a specific playstle rather than 20 generic armies, half are spiked, half are not
>>54690161
Well according to WD obliterators have been removed

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>>54689993

>>54690167
It better be more than re-roll ones with tatter soul only getting re-roll all.

>>54690171
>obliterators removed
what?

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>>54690177
and she was
>>54690181
read motherfucker

>>54690167
Kranon doesn't have a 2+ anymore? Lame.

>>54690171
>obliterators have been removed

That doesn't sound right.

>>54690089
The dude was talking about cultists doing it, though.

>>54690090
>>54690117
Except only 3 of that is Night Lord dependant. If it's so good, why doesn't everyone do it?

>>54690181
If that is true can they still take the new legion traits?

Can my Deathwatch take both a stalker pattern boltgun and a chainsword? It's a bit confusing.

>>54690193
>>54690188
>>54690187
>>54690181
It's an editing error before people don;t get the joke

I am literally down on my fucking knees right now praying Obliterators get their old weapon rules back in the new book.

>>54690167
Kranon is literally just a Chaos Lord with no options

>>54689795
Please, respond.

>>54689974
You have all you need to run a TS army. Rubrics, termies, and so forth. I'd choose old chaos dreds tho' or maybe imperial ones, since hellbrute is kinda heavilly mutated. There's nothing wrong with using spawns tho' and I'd consider using tzaangors either.

>>54689974
I don't like TS in Black Legion armies though. Not at least as full members. I know that some TS sorcerers joined BL and brought their rubric reutine along, but still, it looks odd. If I really wanted to take them in BL army, I'd just use TS painted in their original legion colour.

>>54690187
I don't see it.
>>54690193
I mean, you can still use the Index rules for them, and they are Infantry Heretic Astarted, and they can take a Mark of Chaos and be in a Legion so I guess?
>>54690197
I didn't see the error or even what he was talking about.

>>54690192
It is too unreliable with the more certain -3. Now that one unit can do -3 (nurgle raptors with icon), yeah people are going to be doing it.

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>>54690181
I don't think they are gone, probably just a lazy editor good for nothing but drinking tea. The next page mentions oblits directly.

>>54690212
>Please, respond.
I'd assume so but none of us have that model

>>54690207
I actually cannot fathom how they thought these new weapons were a good idea.
They have added so many plasma guns with multiple profiles, and yet they can't add different profiles for obliteratior guns.

>>54690212
yes, it should, but why are you ruining a perfect model

>>54690212
I'm sure it will fit somehow, you probably will have to either trim or greenstuff though.

>>54689946
Knights when they first got revealed

Seriously, does anyone actually enjoy games of one sided stomp one way or another? 40k is just too long of a game to waste time on a foregone conclusion

>>54690227
Welcome to the world of "chaos is randumb"

>>54689966

I have a deredeo on the way, they reply quickly to emails which is a huge plus for me

>>54690234
Lords of War in regular games was a mistake. That shit should have stayed Apoc only.

>>54690235
I liked it as a basic idea, but you should have been able to buy the option for them to do multiple actual weapons, and come on GW imperials get like 6 units with ass canon but we only get 1

>>54690207
>>54690227
I actually kind of don't mind them, they're cheaper than Lascannons to make up for being weaker, and they're still pretty strong.
On a squad of Infantry you can park on an objective marker they're not terrible.
I never used them in 7th though.

>>54690251
I would be okay with them if they were either cheaper, had more shots or had more range.

For the Goblin Throne! Death to the forces of Choas!

>>54690245
well, it's far more tolerable now since you can fish for 6s

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>>54690261
For the goblin throne!

Are warp talons even worth using with only 2 attacks each?

>>54690234
Apparently people liked them enough for FW to pump out more flavours of Knight

>>54690275
dual lightning claws makes it 3, and you can assault from deep strike now so yeah actually decent

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What would a 40k version of blood bowl be? And it can't actually be blood bowl.

>>54690275
Considering you can Warptime them, I'd say sure why not.

>>54690280
FW has always done what they wanted to do, not what was marketable, that's why they cast in resin as you can make 1 or 2 whenever and still make a profit

Raven Guard, 1987/ 2000 points

HQ
Primaris Captain [6 PL, 96pts]
>Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, Power sword

Primaris Librarian [7 PL, 105pts]

Troops

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 104pts]
>4x Intercessor, Bolt rifle, 1 Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
>Intercessor Sergeant Power sword

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 104pts]
>4x Intercessor, Bolt rifle, 1 Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
>Intercessor Sergeant Power sword

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 104pts]
>4x Intercessor, Bolt rifle, 1 Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
>Intercessor Sergeant Power sword

Elites

Aggressor Squad x6 [12 PL, 262pts]
>Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 202pts]
>2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon

Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
>Combat knife, Grav Chutes

Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
>Combat knife, Grav Chutes

Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
>Combat knife, Grav Chutes

Heavy Support

Hellblaster Squad [16 PL, 330pts]
>Plasma incinerator

Las Pred [9 PL, 190pts]

Las Pred [9 PL, 190pts]

>>54690286
blood bowl, but the ball is a human who may fall to any side

Is it better to prime Skitarii in white or black? Does anyone have experience with starting them from a white primer?

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>>54690286

Does anyone have an epub or pdf copy of shroud of night they can link here?

>>54690298
Needs more bodies, get some scouts with sniipe instead of 2 reiver squads

>>54690311
Check the archive, the mediafire link has been posted a few times already.

>>54690286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmOzAE-CbLY

>>54690282

No. They have 1 attack base +1 for a pair of lightning claws. Yes, this was FAQd.

>>54690288
10 warp talons is 280pts
10 Raptors with Combi plasma, lightning claw, 2 plasma guns, and an icon is 230pts

>>54690286
This sounds like something tg needs to get done.

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>>54690286

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>Playing against CSM as Eldar.
>His Deamons prince of nurgle comes out the field after I find my spy.
>my Reapers blast it down in one turn.

Jesus Christ these guys hit like a truck.

Are Aggressors good, thinking about getting two units.

>>54690324
Holy shit that so works doesn't it? What would the rules look like? What do we call it.

>>54690275
nah use terminators instead

>>54690328
>>54690324
Alright so combining these two, making them 40k... can we do it?

>>54690212
Because I can buy a model without a head. I don't want to ruin it by trimming it, that's why I'm asking.

>>54690291
Nah I don't think so
They wouldn't be in business otherwise

>>54690275
No
For the cost of 5 talons, you can take 8 raptors which do just as good in close combat, but can also take special weapons and such

>>54690230
-> >>54690348

>>54690350
they're in buisness because GW subsidises them, and can trial products due to resin mould cheapness compared to plastic, HH got a plastic box after 5 years of resin heresy

>>54690306
White if you're going red, I prime white now.

>>54690330
Yay or nay?

>>54690014
-> >>54690212

>>54690383
pretty good if you want an alternative to assault centurions for slow infantry mulching/tank punching platform. Have real issue getting delivered though.

>>54690372
Wasn't the baneblade originally resin forge World?

>>54690404

Redemptor a good alt?

>>54690418
Redemptor is a dakka platform.

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> ChaosBall
> Board is shaped like chaos star.
> 4 Players from each team on alternating triangles
> Ball in the centre
> Players alternate activating
> Everyone has smash hammers than push people onto the floor or stab swords that could injure them
> The ball has to be taken to an endzone (off of the star)
> Everyone takes a hit nearby so next round there are injuries.
What do you think tg?

>>54690416
yep, apocalypse was FW originally as well, that's what the stuff was balanced for so that's why in normal games it was seen as P2W

>>54690330
3 Aggressors can put out an average of 54 bolter shots. Use them accordingly.

>>54689976
But not the models

>>54690358

I wonder how/if they'll get changed with the Codex. I'd say a price drop, but you're paying 15ppm for jump infantry with a 3+/5++ save and immunity to overwatch is actually killer. It's the 13ppm for the lightning claws that kills them. If they could take BP+Chainsword, they would be amazing.

>>54690261
FUDGE YOU, ROGAL

Thinking of making a Daemon Prince based off Tartaros armor with some daemon looking claws.

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saw some neat armies at todays event.

My 500pts Thousand Sons got roasted alive yesterday. I could only field 21 models while my Astra Militarum opponent had tons more with a battalion detachment. We both agreed to use leaks, so I had the powers and stratagems revealed from the faction focusses while he had his entire leaked Codex, making his lasguns Rapid Fire 3 for 1 command point was insane!

How do I win in the future? Do I need my codex too?

So what role is the dawnblade going to play in the future
Obviously has mysteries about it

>>54690453
Old bait. Try again

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>>54690446

>>54690446
dark hunters are too codex complaint it seems.

>>54690462
The fuck is up with that guy's hand.

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Rate my 1000p Death Guard list pls.

Battalion Detachment (3+ CP):

HQ:
Typhus with Gift of Contagion and Miasma of Pestilence: 164 points
Malignant Plaguecaster with Gift of Contagion and Miasma of Pestilence:110 points

Troops:
Plague Champion with Bolter/Bolt Pistol+3x Bolter Plague Marines+2x Plague Marines with Blight Launchers: 154 points
Plague Champion with Bolter/Bolt Pistol+3x Bolter Plague Marines+2x Plague Marines with Blight Launchers: 154 points
20x Poxwalkers: 120 points

Elites:
Helbrute with Helbrute Fist and Multi-melta: 139 points

Fast Attack:
Foetid Bloat-drone: 158 points

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>112 into the future
>mfw all Tau and human special characters should be long dead and gone by now

What was GW thinking? They cannot handwave this.

>>54690446
>>54690462

This is a perfect example of problematic edge highlighting. They unintentionally look like tron cycles

>>54690468
>Not replacing one of the marines and melta for scourge.
Are you even trying to win?

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finished this guy earlier, thought i'd share.

actually added the blood to hide some imperfections due to something retarded i had done lol but hey it worked out for the better that way

>>54690474

A) (important) Humans live a lot longer
B) Warptime fuckery

>>54690442
If they give them back 3 attacks, they would be so much more viable.
Otherwise, no point in ever touching them

>>54690484
Pssh nothin personel kid

>>54690474
You know not every battle takes place in 200.M41, right?

>>54690484
>I am mad
>mad about the inquisition
i like it

>>54690488

Even with 3 attacks, I don't know that any 1W model is worth 28 points.

>>54690484
looks good, anon

>>54690480
Is the scourge really that much of an auto take?

>>54690462
How did they get up there?

No, not the assault marines you fucks, the bikers.

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What's a good fluffy way to run Iron Hands? Pic related is my current list.

>>54690474
The coolest tau dude is effectively immortal
So no problems there

>>54690500
sick ramp jumps presumably

>>54690500
Are Bikes infantry? If not, they can't actually get up there...

>>54690500
They were under the pad so we just set them on top so we knew they were there.

>>54690492
40K is a story now with an ongoing narrative. There is no borders for the timeline this time around. These characters are bound to pop up and they need to get an explanation for how they are still alive 112 years later.

>>54690501
what program did you use for that?

>>54690512
Quartermaster.

>>54690501
>anythng on a bike
that's just not IH

>Oblit gun is S7 -2 D2
>You can add D3 to one stat in each shooting phase

Y/N?

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>I'm the trouble starter, punkin' instigator
>I'm the fear addicted, danger illustrated

>I'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter
>You're the firestarter, twisted firestarter
>I'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter

>I'm the bitch you hated, filth infatuated – yeah
>I'm the pain you tasted, well intoxicated

>I'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter
>You're the firestarter, twisted firestarter

>I'm the self inflicted, mind detonator – yeah
>I'm the one infected, twisted animator

>I'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter
>You're the firestarter, twisted firestarter
>I'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter

>>54690497
Eh, terminators were 1 wound and still worth a lot more.

>>54690507
Who even cares.
You could bring 30k armies into 40k games last edition, and no one cared.
If you can't suspend your disbelief this tiny amount, you might actually be on the spectrum

>>54690518

But what if they use the bikes as portable siege walls and just stack them up when they reach their position?

>>54690515
thank you

>>54690480
>>54690499
Would taking 2 scourges give you 6 extra melee attacks?

>>54690505
It's only ruins that stops bikes isn't it?

>>54690529

That's because you could take 3 of them with combi-meltas for 113pts

>>54690474
Imperium has had access to rejuvenation treatments forever, not hard to imagine Tau could come up with something similar.

>>54690536
oh wait I don't think you can do that.

>>54690529
>Who even cares.

I do because I am in 40K for the story not the rules.

>>54690525
Fuck yeah. I'd include boosting the number of attacks too, though.

>>54690544
>wasting rejuvenation treatments on disposable guardsmen

Yeah, right,

>>54690548
Then read the novels instead.
It's autistic af to think that they should scrap characters from old age

>>54690525
How many shots?

>>54690467
it's his glove sock companion mr meebles (counts as power maul)

>>54690234
I bought them when I was just starting out and didn't know everyone hated them. I grew up on mechwarrior/battletech so I love the idea of giant shooty mechs. was bad feels not touching them all through 7th. the worst part was that a single knight was fucking garbage, but 2+ was broken as fuck.

8th actually has them balanced pretty well so I don't feel bad running one with my army and occasionally running a list of 3.

Is there any use for two chaos spawns or you need a bigger unit or not use them at all?

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>>54690589

Now I really want to give an Ork a Mr Socko, which does devastating damage because his clan believes it's a legendary power weapon.

I'd paint an iron gob on him and call him Mr Sorko.

>>54690526
(You) because reference

Can Chaos Marines get snipers or some other character-targeting unit from Forgeworld or allies? Wanting to go Night Lords as I like their edgelordy fluff, but there's so many characters out there granting leadership buffs or otherwise rendering the legion tactic useless, like commissars.

I remember something about some /tg/ homebrew chapter with something about "taking a knot". Does anyone have that screencap?

>>54690642
I'd wait for a codex. There might be some useful spells for sorcerers to snipe out characters.

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>>54689928

>>54690648
We already have spell that can snipe characters.

It does 1.5 mortal wounds on average.

>>54690462
>that one guy at the back looking pissed off that the fancy guy is riding with no hands on the handle bars

"Well thats just dangerous."

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>>54690462
"Eh, it's a living!"

>>54690484
Good job anon.

Also what chapter is that?

>>54690501
Anything with a lot of mechanized stuff like tanks, dreads, servitors and their infantry.

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>>54690670

>>54690731
The Golden Ponies

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>>54690462

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Thinking of making a Primaris Marines chapter based off Luna Wolves:

>Same colour scheme, addition with top knots and some minor fur pelts & other Space Wolves accessory bits - just not over the top wolf wolf wolfy crap.
>Thinking of having them be assumed to be Space Wolves successors by mistake, secret Cawl protect etc.
>Read some Primaris Marines were from the Great Crusade, could have some loyalist Luna Wolves / Sons of Horus boys thrown into the mix? Either aware or mind wiped.
>Some spiritualism thrown into the mix, probably believe in visions of a white and black wolf guiding the chapter, hinting at the reincarnations of a redemptionist Horus trying to guide the way; even if technically his entire soul was nuclear bombed by the Emperor. Maybe even have this as phony trickery by Black Legion / Thrice Cursed Traitor warbands or via chapters own psykers. Vague and sweet seems the best idea though.
>As a result chapter might delve into a little bit of wolfy wolf wolf with some wolf companion models on the field, both of black and white variety.
>Chapter more or less unaware of their origins or a closely guarded secret, maybe some geneseed exploit that delves into memories much like Sanguinius, though not with madness (maybe in the future corruption). Then again I think Cawl removed this corruption.
>Homeworld could straight up be the ruins of Cthonia with an asteroid base, but that's a little too obvious.

Just can't think of a name for them, I'm trying to find a way to bring Luna Wolves into 40k without a meme case of 'lost in the warp' while keeping it tasteful.

>>54690754
Moon Pooches

>>54690693
>>54690747
Kek

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>>54690747

Power Axe or Power Sword for a Juggernaut Chaos Lord?

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>>54690754
>>54690760
Moon Poochies

>>54690771
>wait for the codex.jpg
Seriously, we might get some half-decent daemon weapons.

>>54690754
The Lost Wolves
The Faithful of the Lost
The Redeemers of the Warmaster (Maybe too much)

>>54690771
sword, unless you actually need the anti tank a sword is just better

>>54690667
You mean Smite? That targets the closest unit, so can't really be used for sniping characters hiding in blobs.

>>54690754
Black Wolves

So in 7th I played Khorne Deamonkin so now I'm WE mixed with Deamons. I have 8 Berzerkers models with axes and swords plus 2 champs with plasma and PF.
I have another 15 chosen I'm going to convert to Berzerkers. My question is should I model them with an axe and sword or 2 swords?
I feel with them being S5 the +1S on the axe isn't that beneficial and I think I'd rather have an extra attack over the -1 AP.

>>54690787
Oh wait, infernal gaze. Ignore me, I'm a retard.

>>54690787
even still, sniping characters isn't as effective as removing the forward units first, unless the character is like a Primarch/ Daemon prince, but then you should have your own anyway

>>54690760
>>54690778

Sweet

>>54690783
>>54690795

I like these, I was also thinking Lone Wolves.

Any ideas for what to play my 30k Emperors Children as in 8th? I want to keep playing them but none of my friends have a 30k army to play against. I was thinking maybe white scars.

>>54690798
>when you WAAC-fag so much you gimp yourself: the post
Just take the axes, fool. You shame yourself before Khorne

>>54690805
simply put snipers arn't that good

>Cawl : I wanna make P-marines out of the traitor primarch geneseed.
>Girlyman : No
>Cawl : ...But this what the Emperor intended though
>Girlyman : I said no.
>Cawl : The fault was in the primarchs, not the space marines. You have to understand that
>Girlyman : NO MEANS NO. END OF DISCUSSION

5 minutes later.

>Cawl : Make me Fabricator General of Mars please. I can jump start the Imperium's technological superiority and ensure our dominance over the galaxy
>Girlyman : No. Forget it.
>Cawl : 01101101 01110101 01100110 01100110 01101100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01101001 01100011 00100000 01110010 01100001 01100111 01101001 01101110 01100111
>Girlyman : What?
>Cawl : Nothing. I am going back to work

Why is Girlyman such a cogblocker? I thought he was progressive

>>54690807

40K EC you moron

>>54690806
Shadow Wolves sounds pretty good too.
>>54690807
Why not Emperor's Children?

>>54690825
>>54690823
i probably should have specified I play loyalist EC, so I don't really want to run them as CSM unless I have no other choice.

>>54690822
All an excuse for chaos primaris marines 1 year from now

>>54690798
If you have both you get the extra attack free. You have the base attacks with the axe then another with the sword. Read the rules gimp.

Whats the easiest army to transport?

Ok, let's continue this, shall we? . How to build a fluffy traitor legion updated edition.

Iron Warriors - vindicators, devastators, obliterators, daemon engines, warpsmiths

Black Legion - chosen, terminators, daemons, a little bit of cult marines

Word Bearers - apostles, possessed and cultists, daemons

Aplpha Legion - cultists, stolen tanks, chosen ( why is that?)

Night Lords - raptors, warp taloons, bikers

Death Guard - plague marines, Nurgle's daemons

World Eaters - berserkers, Khorne's daemons

Thousand Sons - sorcerers, rubrics, Tzeentch's daemons

Emperor's Children - noise marines, daemonettes.

>>54690838

Hawk Lords, Ultramarines Chapter Tactics.

How would you beat an Ork army made up of lots of 30 mob slugga boyz coupled with wierdboyz who tellyporta them across the field, coupled with a bunch of deff dreads.

As either IG or Space Marines

>>54690838
>loyalist EC
Didn't you die on Istvaan 3? What are you doing in 40k?

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>>54690798
You can't bring two swords you

>>54690039
Word Bearers too, surely.

Also, cultist spam is rad. If you don't have a horde of disposable mortals to serve as bolter fodder you're serving the dark gods wrong.

>>54690731
Celestial lions

>>54690851
as IG just use valks, punishers and guard blobs with no up grades (maybe conscripts) IG will out number orks if they only have 1 tank.

>>54690785
I mean, I was tempted to give it a fist and a sword or axe to give it flexibility.

Any white dwarf pdf?

>>54690167
There a good copy of the Dark Vengeance conversion rules somewhere?

>>54690866
Just think about what you want him to do, and rember he can always wound on at least 6, so only dedicated AT is actually better against tanks

>>54690869
A kind scananon posted quality pics a few threads ago, check the archive.

>>54690860
Or AL

>>54690875
Cheers

>>54690873
Ok, honestly I wanted to model a power fist holding a spear. Which I may do regardless but yeah.

>>54690848
I feel like lightning claw chosen are pretty emperor's children.
An elite melee unit that pumps out a lot of armor rending attacks.

>>54690544
The Tau are sticking Shadowsun in stasis and only defrosting her when her skills are required. I imagine they're doing the same for <your favourite named character>.

>>54690754
Check out Encounter Wargaming ... the main guy Pickles there had a fully primaris Luna Wolves army that looks really nice.

The idea of it makes me cringe tho.

>>54690039
Why the fuck would IW or BL use masses of cultists? Iron Warriors are siege masters and BL are an elite force of chosen and terminators. Word Bearers use cultists and Alpha Legion does that (more as insurgents that actual cultists), but IW and BL? Dude...

>>54690897
Encounter Wargaming YouTube channel that is

>>54690484
I commend your fine use of Retributor Gold spray.

Seriously, I'm starting to become allergic to any colour scheme that I can't spray on to begin with.

>>54690849
Thanks, that chapter's lore seems to fit nicely with my army composition
>>54690855
I wont tell Fulgrim if you wont

>>54690904
Crunch, not fluff. In IW and BL you can have massive fearless cultist blobs.

>>54690526
Always was the best priest mini.

>>54690822
>why not make Primaris out of traitor legions

Because if they got caught it would starts a civil war, both in the Imperium and within the Astartes probably.

>make Cawl Fabricator General

Dude is about as trustworthy as a teenager with a meth addiction and just as morally bankrupt. Giving him the keys to Mars would be a really stupid idea. If the fluff still implies the Void Dragon is on Mars you can bet he'd start fucking with it at the very least.

>>54690919
>Dude is about as trustworthy as a teenager with a meth addiction and just as morally bankrupt.

Seconded. Dude is skilled, but he's already balls deep in heretical technology (and not just from the "Mechanicus says no" standpoint). The most radical of Inquisitors have nothing on him.

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>>54690916

I'm hunting one down to group up with a few penitent engines, he really captures the infernal grimdark.

>>54690848
Iron Warriors - Daemon engines are the bulk of the force, with cannon-fodder waves of tac marines to get in the way of enemy guns.

Black Legion - Lots of CSM elites of every kind, with troop daemons as the footsoldiers.

Word Bearers - Apostles for the primary HQ, cultists and possessed for bulk, and elite/HQ daemons.

Alpha Legion - Take an IG army, replace the guardsmen with cultists, your command/heavy weapon/etc. squads with Lords and Chosen, and replace the Leman Russes with Predators. Avoid daemons/sorcerers.

Night Lords - Raptors, Warp Talons, Bikes, and Terminators. Avoid daemons/sorcerers, except spawn.

Death Guard - Have their own codex worth of units

World Eaters - Bersekers, Khornate daemons, bikes

Thousand Sons - Have their own codex worth of units

Emperor's Children - Noise Marines, daemonettes, bikes, raptors

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So I'm kicking around the idea of a vehicle light Wych Cult of Speed force even though it'd force me to paint flesh tones

Succubus
12 Reavers (w 4 Blasters and 4 Grav Talons, possibly broken up into two squads)
10 Hellions (leader gets Phantasm Grenade Launcher)
Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons (for the Succ to ride in)
5 Scourges with Shardcarbines
5 Scourges with 4 Dark Lances

Comes out to exactly 1000 points. 3 drop in terms of deployment, so decent chance of getting the first turn. Can bring the Scourges in when appropriate to harass infantry, lone characters and tanks according to load out.

Biggest decisions seem like they'd be determining who gets what drug and whether to break up the Reavers into two squads or one big one with Painbringer.

>>54690207
I hope they get their power fists back, at least.

>>54690960
But anon, then people would have no reason to take mutilators.
>t, GW designer

>>54690822
>Why is Girlyman such a cogblocker? I thought he was progressive

He's a reformist, not a revolutionary or a radical. He is trying to turn the Imperium towards his ideas slowly enough that it doesn't break.

>>54690939
>Lots of CSM elites of every kind
I'd say noise marines and rubrics are pretty rare in BL. It's stated that noise marines in BL are considered as traitors to Fulgrim by Emperor's Children, so they must be their offshots. As for rubrics, sure, there are TS sorcerers with their rubric bodyguard, but I don't think they are very common. on the other hand, BL know how to make berserkers and have Nurgle's sorcerers that bestow plague marine gift in the name of Abaddon, so those two cult marine types are quite common I believe.

>>54690848
>>54690939
Alpha legion are my favorite from visual perspective. But the swissknife daemon summoning sound fun as hell...

Anyway, does the Renegade/Heretic from FW still a thing ? I can't find a link, and the mega seems to be the FW-index of chaos force, not full army book.

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just sitting here wating for some money so I can start building my first army

>>54690286
Gladiatorial Games in the fighting pits of Commoragh

>>54691000
what is your first army going to be?

How good are the Redemptors at taking down armour?

I dont have any fliers, but yeah I outnumber the guy, but his dudes tear through mine in CC which is unavoidable since they essentially DS

>>54691010
Too boring. Blood bowl isn't set in the fantasy setting but a seperate goofy one.

>>54690845
If I had 2 I'd get 2 extra attacks although as >>54690858 pointed out I can't even take 2 so a stupid question on my part.

>>54690810
Since when has asking for weapon loadout thoughts been WAAC? Admittedly it's not that fluffy but I'm asking opinions on it as I'm out of chain axes and have a shit load of swords.

Looks like I need to buy more axes.

>>54691013
Cheap

>>54689976
Whener I see World Eaters acronym:

>WE
>WUZ
>KHÂRN

Is it cannon that kharn is a great guy to be around?

>>54690442
I would rather see them get another attack or 2 and a second wound like possessed did. That way they can feel elite and badass, like they are supposed to be. Would even be fine if hey went up in points a little to compensate for those changes.

>>54690939
>Avoid daemons/sorcerers, except spawn.

They have a fair amount of sorcerers (Night Hunter's future sight being the one the majority of NL sorcerers in the fluff seem to have). Their fluff has them summoning daemons constantly these days, viewing them as just another tool for terror, rather than something to be worshipped.

They tend to look down on warriors with marks of chaos and cult troops, but aren't above working with them.

>>54690848

I'd add that Night Lords seem to make heavy use of rhinos to keep their infantry mobile, but heavier tanks and daemon engines aren't really their style, as they're not siege fighters.

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>>54691013
Well im gonna buy the Dark Imperium box so space marines, gonna sell/trade the Death Guard models for either more Primaris or regular manlet marines. Then im gonna buy the Prospero and Calth boxes for more marines and some bitz to do some conversions with and after that, a redemptor and the new grav tank when it is released (ofc there will be some regular manlet dreads and other vehicles too). When I get a hang of the game I will start to collect Thousand sons because I like how they look and thanks to the Prospero box I get some models from there too.


feels good to have a good paying job

>>54691055
He really is a swell guy

>>54690014
Clever vanilla SM Dreadnought conversion.
Helped my friend make a World Eaters helbrute out of a vanilla dread last year.

There aren't many Aquila or anything on it.
Terminator torso and a rubric head to make it a Mk 4 dread instead of a flat plate sarcophagus.

>>54690954
Looks good. Might be a little light on bodies, but you have a good mix of ranged weapons.

>>54690014
Find a recast of the old FW TS dreads. It works in fluff enough, it's another thing animated by psykers and the rubric or a psychic dread like the GK ones so the pilot survived the casting of the rubric

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Is Shadowwar Armaggeddon the re-release of necromunda, or can we still expect necromunda to appear some time 2018ish?

>>54691066
>>54690939
I'm thinking helldrake also for Night Lords... Does it stick?

>>54691091
Its neither and you get none.

>>54690286
live streamed necromunda fights

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Cool, the Warhammer Twitch guys were wearing that mysterious symbol.

Necromunda/Forgeworld tie-in confirmed?

>>54691078
I'm kind of torn between that and a more ordinary Kabalite force now; I have the models for either (with a little customisation at least) but I'd like to get them built and painted in time for Konor so my time is limited

There are worse dilemmas to have I guess

>>54690848
I always saw the iron warriors as more of a no-frills force than a dinobots one. Back in the day they had the option to take IG basilisks, for instance. There's was more of a spiteful and callous, Stalinesque meat grinder brand of evil.

The black legion are hard to pin down other than being the most generic of chaos dudes. They range from the OG traitors of the horus heresy to newfag traitor marines, and all kinds of stories in between. One of the little short story blurbs on the codex timeline was about a single surviving legionary who made planet fall on some backwater (after they jobbed to some space battle) eventually leading a planetary uprising under the epithet of "the ragged king." I also liked the bit where they had heldrakes roosting in the lofts of their ships' loading decks, that sort of thing.

Basically if you can imagine it, black legion probably have it. Whole dedicated god warbands to abaddon's own planetkiller crew, if yourdudes aren't your thing. They're supposedly the most popular "brand" of chaos and have the best connections and equipment chain.

>Painting up my first army
>Still have 15 more minis to paint, a rhino and a predator

I've not painted in a week, I need a breather from painting models for a bit. How do you guys do it?

>>54691102
FIRES
OF
CYRUS

>Disclaimer: It may not be fires of cyrus and if we are lucky we might get some cool loot.

>>54690559
Named characters aren't disposable guardsmen.

>>54691109
>how do you guys do it?

30 minutes a day will get you far. I only do marathon sessions when I'm getting kind of technical, like mass producing bases or want to airbrush to homogenize a scheme for a large group.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Legion-Sicaran-Arcus-Strike-Tank-2017

New Sicaran tank.

Annoyingly if you look at the heresy rules they get a diverse range of shells suited to any occasion and shoot twice if they stay still, whilst we get 24 inch range infantry shells and shoot twice if we don't want to shoot the next turn,

>>54691114
>Cyrus

Cyraxis?

>>54691105
If you're looking to get into Konor then get cracking. It'll be playable, at the very least, and you score points by painting up stuff. If you can get some Elite choices painted up this week they'll score double, in case you really want to see the Imperium fail (or Chaos faceplant more completely).

>>54691130
Fucked that up didn't I.
Anyway I meme about it but how is IA going to work in 8th?

>>54691017

I mean, they can punch it but they aren't really better than a Contemptor would be for that and the Contemptor can take anti-armour weapons.

>>54691121
Thx Annon

I will set myself a target

>>54691106

It would be nice to see there be some chaos arty. It doesn't need to be just 'Copied IG stuff' but some unique chaos arty would be nice.

Maybe a big arty that inflicts double morale penalties with losses it causes. Or gives a few phantom casualties (Counts for end of turn stuff but didn't actually lose the guys) to units near the one it hits as the arty is that fucking terrifying.

>>54691106
Black Legion are the Deathwatch of Chaos.

>>54691106
Yes, but there is Black Legion and "Black Legion". It consists of original Sons of Horus, recruits and mercenaries from orher legions and recent renegades. The whole "elite force" comes from original BL combat doctrine and is performed mostly by Sons of Horus I believe (yes, kinda headcanon, but it fits). Also, Sons of Horus splitted into many warbands under different chaos lords that could worship particular chaos god and it was Abaddon that unified the Legion once again, hence the diversity even in original Sons of Horus legionnaries, but I wouldn't go too far with that.

>>54690936

Are Penitent Engines any good this edition?

Currently building a melee based Black Templar list

In my list I'm looking to bring 3 Crusader squads but im not sure how to kit them out and if i should even bother to bring Neophytes

>>54691109
Batch paint, keep my colour schemes simple, don't go mad on highlighting, spray whatever I can. You can always come back to your minis after you get them table ready. Get them looking acceptable, play some games and then enjoy touching them up at a leisurely pace.

Finding something to accompany your painting sessions is also recommended. Podcasts and audiobooks are the best, but video works too as long as you don't put on anything too visually interesting. Just make sure it's stuff you're actually interested in. That way a painting session means you get to do two things you enjoy at the same time, for maximum leisure efficiency.

Don't worry about taking breaks either. If you want to do other stuff then you're just going to resent painting. I spent a week playing assorted vidya, then turned around and spent most of this week painting.

Finally, leave you paint station deployed if you're able to. If you're stuff is right there you can dive in and do a quick 15 mins when it catches you fancy. Setting up and packing away might not take long, but it's an additional hurdle when it comes to sitting yourself down to paint.

>>54691114
As much as I want it to be FoC I doubt it will be, nothing about the symbol makes me think of either the Mechanicus or Red Scorpion and it sure as shit isn't Tau.

Unless maybe it's the Secutarii but as far as I'm aware AdMech doesn't really use double headed eagles in much of their heraldry.

>>54691137
>how is IA going to work in 8th?

I'm guessing we'll get a bunch of datasheets on HH ad mech stuff and secutarii with FOC slots. Is there even new Tau stuff?
That's all we really need. I sincerely hope formations and decurions are a thing of the past and we can all just use the detachments in the big book with appropriately costed toys. It doesn't have to get more complicated than that.

I'm looking forward to the reading, I genuinely enjoy FW's writing for the campaign style story. I loved how the first Tau book, I forget the IA number, was catalyzed by some imperial bureaucrat discovering a clerical error.

>>54691137

Well, so far they've released 40k sheets for all the 40k-usable IA stuff (Thank god for that. I needs my Repressors) so I imagine we'll keep seeing 8e sheets for anything they plan to be usable outside of 30k.

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>>54691185

As long as you can actually get them into combat, they're pretty killy. A priest adds an extra attack so they're good at killing but not especially durable.

>>54691206
The core book mentions detachments being printed in other publications so I would expect to see other popping up in other places, thought he big question is for what purpose.

>>54689913
I have a skitarii army. Is it worth to mix them with kataphrons in the current state of things? I already have kastelans so I'm already losing bonuses for mixing the two (I guess? Still not very clear), but are the kataphrons good at all?

>>54691206

>I'm looking forward to the reading, I genuinely enjoy FW's writing for the campaign style story.

I do wish they'd expand outside of 'Guard/Marines/Tau' a bit more. Even the Nid stuff hasn't been touched on in forever. There's only so much I can care about 'Guard vs Tau' battles.

>>54691106
In other words, BL as generic chaos guys was sort of retconed

>>54691230
How is it not very clear? You only lose the bonus if you have a unit without Adeptus Mechanicus as a keyword in their detachment.

Breachers are shit, Destroyers are ok but expensive.

>>54690424
>Tau
>HOW.
>WHAT.

>Bonding knife ritual, seeing your team crumped has absolutely no effect on your performance, you've seen some shit.

>>54689979
Are Berserkers and HQ gonna footslog? Get at least two rhinos, man.

>>54691151
We're getting that new DG tank that looks like a bombard.

>>54691170
>>54691182
They definitely have a pecking order, and that elite force is an option. Just about any renegade looking for a bigger outfit can go to the black legion, though.

I like the 8th paradigm with the different FOC detachments. They can use the 1 hq and elites ones, while the iron warriors would be well at home with the 1hq and HS slot one.

>>54690286
Football again, but the options of shooting the ball with your factions respective guns exists.
Alternatively, car soccer with guns, it's epic scale and every figure is a vehicle or big monster.

>>54690090
Guess who has a bunch of raptors and a decimator with butcher cannons?
Shame I was going for WE army though.

>>54691185>in an edition where flamers are OP and tanks are tankier
>asks whether a walker with 2 flamers is good

>>54691233
I mean, not every legion has to be a meme of itself. "Generic" can be a very fun and freeing space for yourdudes' headcanon.

>>54691284

>Flamers are OP

I mean

Flamer is shit, enough flamers to form a bell curve are okay.

>>54691185
They are great.
You'll always strike first in combat, because no one wants to face the insane overwatch from them.
And pretty tanky to boot

>>54691128
Still pretty nasty.

>>54689946
Eldar, the regular ones.

Pretty much all of their designs look so incredibly ugly I can't believe people actually like them.

DE at least have an halfway "edgy cool" vibe to them which I can appreciate, even though I still don't like the models.

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>>54691293

Heavy flamers are a different prospect from handheld ones though. Two 8" range, Heavy D6 and -1AP per unit, in a squad of three is pretty rapey.

>>54691324
I really like the design of the Wraith units (Wraithguard and Wraithseers particularly), but otherwise, Craftworld are my least favorite Aeldari in design.

>>54691068
>combining an army of 30k and 40k models
yuck

Whats the best artillery for a Space Marine army?

>>54691314

I dunno, I might be undervaluing it but (As a non-marine player) it doesn't look that impressive. 24" range but it takes a -1 to move and shoot it's main gun (As it's heavy) and it will mostly just scratch up non-infantry targets.

Anyone find it lame and nonsensical that if you have leftover weapons declared against a transport you pop, you can't shoot at the people bailing out of it?

>>54691293
it's more the fact that they auto hit d6 times, Flamers reliably wound LR's at least 1-2 wounds per shot simply due to having 1 less statistic gate

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>>54691090
Decided to go this route, anyone know if this site is fairly reliable with quality?

http://www.mirandairene.com/products/chaos/thousand-sons-chaos-dreadnought-including-weapons-1747.html

>>54691368
No since people Aim first and then shoot together, the way I see it they all shoot simultaneously (hence why you can't hit the emerging infantry)

>>54691289
>space for yourdudes' headcanon
This is where renegade chapters come in, anon.

>>54691378
>if this site is fairly reliable with quality?
I hear they're consistently very good. MI is on the upper tier of recasters.

>>54691370
A single flamer gets about .1 wounds each time it fires on a Land Raider, .2 on a Russ. Also their 8" is an important factor. They're pretty good in large numbers but they run the risk of being kited.

>>54691402
Thanks anon! I'll give it a shot.

>>54691381

So you're saying if you emerge from a rhino's hatch desperately trying to clear the wreck before it explodes or collapses, you aren't at risk of being hit by the Krak missile winging your way?

>>54691336
Is there a way of building a decent list centered primarily (or possibly entirely) around Wraith units?

>>54691439
Just plop a bunch of them into waveserpents and go for it.

>>54691433
You already have to roll a dice for every model inside a transport to see if it is destroyed when exiting the wreck.

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>>54691439

World Eater assault terminators, how best to equip? I have ten but like variety so will equip two different five man units. My current thoughts are one with power fist + combi-bolter and the other duel claws.

>>54691439

Step 1: Grab a Wraithseer from Forge World.

Step 2: Just take whatever else you like, you'll be fine.

Serpents are optional: Pretty good tank and good transport, but does cut into the number of actual Wraiths you can take.

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>>54691343
I rather have my army look unique and cool then looking like everyone elses.

>implying there are chapters that still use the older marks of armor
>implying primaris marines where not made to mix in with older models

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZnwHEDujAs

take your boring, bland and unimaginative army and stick it up your ass

>>54691448

Yeah, because their vehicle just imploded and they might not make it out in time.

Whether the enemy is overkilling their transport with more firepower than turned out necessary doesn't seem to enter into it.

Is it worth buying plastic kits from Chinese recasters? They are a lot cheaper, especially as an Ausfag, but I assume there's tradeoffs.

>>54690474

>Farsight is functionally immortal
>All other Tau can be put into cryo and preserved indefinitely
>Living hundreds of years is literally an everyday thing for any Imperial able to afford juvenate treatments.

Actually read the fluff.

>>54691433
no, the way i see it that krack missile was shot along with about 4 other guns AT THE SAME TIME, B4 the apc blew up, anything AFTER can and do hit them.

>>54690505
>Are Bikes infantry?

Yes

>>54691483
>
Yeah, because their vehicle just imploded and they might not make it out in time.

>Whether the enemy is overkilling their transport with more firepower than turned out necessary doesn't seem to enter into it.

It can be either, it's just a hyper abstracted situation. Considering it can kill any unit that can ride in a transport you can just imagine it as a model exiting the transport gets vaporized by a stray multi-melta shot, the guardsman coming out gets mowed down by bolter fire from the rest of the squad had been firing, etc.

>>54691128
It has to pay out the ass for the extra shells in 30k though

I feel like Sicaran battle tanks actually fit alongside Primaris, anyone else get that feel?

>>54691493
the quality is terrible especially for the Infantry

>>54691469
I'm actually intending to use Mk.III heads and shoulders and probably backpacks on some Primaris some time, simply because I want to. Might do it if I ever do an Ashen Claws army, or something of that sort.

>>54691524
I feel like its roll of 6 thing is how blasts in general should have been treated, honestly.

>>54689913
Is it just me or is this basically the Konor campaign the image?

>>54691526
I got one chinacast specifically for my new primaris dudemans

>>54691522
No they aren't
They only have the biker keyword

>>54691524

One of the extra shell types is basically "If facing a Mechanicum opponent, firmly raise your middle finger and shove that hand firmly into their face. Continue to apply pressure until their neck snaps"

>>54691532
well there you go, I am gonna do it because Im thinking of making a Lamenters army, and since their lore allows me to make some of the marines with older marks of armor I will. The calth box just comes with some great bitz to use also.

>>54691343
>>54691469

Most of my Raven Guard are 30k/FW models with a few GW kits. especially with marines that can be very fluffy.
especially with marines

You know, one big weakness of necrons is morale. But they're mostly cool with it due to 10ld.

Could Night Lords maybe bully necrons? Or is overwhelming firepower still your best bet?

>>54691558

I wish I had an ability that did that to Eldar players.

>>54691600
What's wrong with eldar?
They aren't that bad at all
Probably on the weaker end of the armies, unless you run Ynnari

>>54691597

Night lords could bully Necron Warriors, if the 'Cron player hasn't taken Warriors you know he's resigned to reanimation being a nice bonus when it happens but nothing to rely on.