What's the lamest villain you've seen in a game?

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>>54689094
>Merchant tries to take over a desert city by purchasing all the wells
>Threatens to seal them off if not given control
>Party cleric worships Illmater, sends a message to his church
>Town full of clerics in about a week creating water for free
>Merchant chased out of town

Pic related, GM's face after realizing Mad Max plotlines aren't suited for d&d

>>54689094
>The carpenter
>Lamest Villain

Op has no taste

>>54689330
Now if the merchant had hired his own band of clerics who beat the shit out of any other cleric who tried that nonsense in the town he might have had something along the lines of a range war, could have been interesting

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>GM has the BBEG rape a female NPC to show us how evil he is
>We join in and rape the NPC as well
>Keep his beloved NPC on a leash and use her as currency while we pal around and help the BBEG conquer the world

Numales should learn not to GM

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>>54689094
>The carpenter
>She's female
Do evil goon bureau's also apply gender quotas?

>>54689094
>metallic dragons all died in a great war
>wizard sends party to get devil summoning dagger
>wizard turns out to be metallic dragon
>wizard sacrifices a virgin elf that was raised by dwarfs
>makes the devil swear not to kill him or destroy the eggs
> devil tells the party to destroy the eggs or he'll kill everyone in town
> party smashes eggs dragon gets mad
> devil wounds the dragon but does not kill him
> I was the DM

thinking about both the dragon in devil make me cringe

>>54689094
I don't see how she's lame. Circular saws are very dangerous. She's a credible threat

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>>54689512

>>54689636
Technically no, but the comic book writers sure as hell are. Go look at the new femThor and female Iron man.

>>54689645
Give her some training, and she'd actually be a decent C to B-tier villain

>>54689672
Yeah, she is a bit of a fixer-upper.

>>54689644
>A metallic dragon making a virgin sacrifice to sunmon a fucking devil
What the fuck kind of setting is this

>>54689414
>hired his own band of clerics

Why clerics specifically? They seem less suited it the task than some martials.

>>54689664
Poor /pol/ got its delicate sensibilities hurt again.

>>54689645
The next panel has Batman giving her a 'really? you're trying to be tough with this?' look, while she pouts a little.

Honestly if she had been a side villain in one of the Batman cartoons, she probably could have stood on her own, and there's a lot of fun variety you could have with carpenters and how she could make use of terrain and tools - collapsing supports, blocking doors, even just nailing his cape to a wall. But in this case she's just a joke because Batman's gone up against much worse shit.

>>54689840
Not him, but you're blind if you don't see the bias in the new Ironman comics.

>Protagonist is a black girl called Riri Williams, persona IronHEART
>Yet the comic is still named Ironman (gee, I wonder why. Maybe because Riri is a shit character that wouldn't sell if not attached to the name of a better character?)
>She fucking whines about not being oppressed enough (when she as a kid tells her elementary school teacher that she wants to become a scientist, said teacher replies with something among the lines of "oh, neat. Do your best". Riri then whines about NOT being oppressed for being a girl and black because like any good tumblrina she needs to enforce her view that she's actually being oppressed to have a goal in life)
>She's treated like a fucking savior despite messing up all the time and doing only the most basic shit, like escorting away an already wounded villain
>She's supposed to be a super genius but talks and behaves like your average millenial idiot

The youtube channel Diversty & Comics does page by page readings and commentary of the new Iron"man" comics if you really want to see how horrible the SJW pandering gets.

>>54689840
>>54689977
Actually, Marvel as a whole has just gone to Shit. It's not even about the message they're trying to send, at this point the agenda has gotten in the way of the story itself.

You know Squirrel Girl? The "Lighthearted Comedy" side of Marvel, that contrasts with the darker storylines of the main comics? The story has thrown out EVERYTHING that made it good, namely the comedy and light-heartedness, and gone full StrongFemaleProtagonist.webcomic on us.

I'm all in favor of having these elements in a story, but I expect them to be incorporated well, and tastefully, not hamfisted to the point where they replace everything.

This is why DC is currently kicking Marvel's ass in comic sales right now.

>>54689977
I was - and still am - a little skeptical, but on a google search what you're saying seems to have some merit. There's a big long bit about her trying to chose a name and not enjoying the female prefixes and stuff. Though I do think what I've seen of her being bored/frustrated with the world around her because of her intelligence is a bit interesting, especially since Stark still knows more than her. Like I said, google search level, so I'm getting a cursory look at best.

>>54689765
Martials cost a lot of money and some evil temple would probably do it for some other vile and disgusting compensation.

>>54689512
>GM has the BBEG rape the Sorceress to show us how evil he is
>Sorceress reminds him that they have the power to be completely immune to rape by consenting

Threw him for a loop that one.

>>54689840

Nah, the shit Marvel pumps out is indefensible. The message is fine--everybody wants someone to look up to and giving kids role models that look like them and yadda yadda yadda. The problem is that Marvel does not employ the skill to handle that with tact. Instead we get femThor and femIron Man with writing that is--somehow--less coherent than usual, with the only clear thing about it being that it is intended primarily to show the world how progressive Marvel is, rather than to actually respect these characters they're creating enough to bring a decent story to the table.

More representation is fine. People who are against that are legitimately /pol/sters. But I think people of all degrees of racial tolerance can at least agree that, whether or not inclusivity is important or virtuous, Marvel is doing an absolutely fucking awful job of it and we'd really wish they would either devote the talent necessary to give us good stories instead of cardboard cut-out rah-rah fight the patriarchy caricatures, or stop and let more qualified people fight for equality.

>>54690077
Also on a browse of the Wikipedia article, I actually find it funny that the reason she didn't like her teacher's response is that she has a superiority complex - she wants to be able to prove people wrong. Imagine that you wanted to feel better than others, but everyone just unconditionally accepts you.

>>54690077
Trust me, I'm about as far from /pol/ as you can get. UC Berkeley grad, have voted for the Peace and Freedom Party multiple times, I'm a Chinese Jew...

Marvel has been clumsily shoehorning SJW bullshit into their comics for a few years now. And it's just cringe inducing.

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>>54689977
>capeshit

>>54689330
>>54689414
This is when the Clerics of Waukeen arrive and start leading a brutal police campaign against the Ilmarites for disrupting the free market.

Ilmarites, being martyr fetishists, can't help but get the shit kicked out of them

The city rapidly becomes split between the two warring factions

>>54690178
This is clever writing. It hits the tumblr-nail on the millennial-head. Exchange "everybody accepts it" to "no one fucking cares, shut the fuck up all read"

>>54689856

Yeah nail guns, utility knife, circular saws and the good old fashioned hammer. You could do a lot with a villain/hero like that if you played up 'Weaponmaster' and 'Fantastic situational awareness' to take advantage of those skills. No one fights well with a nail in the leg.

Though I'll admit I'm laughing at the idea of the heroes attacking a big doomsday device only to hear 'You fools, it will take more than that! I built it to code!' and for the carpenter to reveal themselves as working for another villain.

>>54690178

It's like the anti-Doom.

>They told me my designs were good
>They told me they believed I would succeed.
>I WILL SHOW THEM ALL!

>>54690290
>t. F.A.T.A.Lite

>>54690335
If this doesn't escalate to a 10-holy-orders free for all in the ruins of the former prosperous city you're dming wrong

>>54690371
>Though I'll admit I'm laughing at the idea of the heroes attacking a big doomsday device only to hear 'You fools, it will take more than that! I built it to code!' and for the carpenter to reveal themselves as working for another villain.

That's literally what she had been doing.

Her original schtick was an Alice in wonderland thing with Mad Hatter, but she had been hired out to build stuff since for villains (not a lot of job opportunities after you had been caught by Batman).

>>54690204
>Chinese
>Jew.
How? Jews were not known for their missionary work.

>>54690417
You can't actually become an (orthodox?) jew by conversion anyway, it's passed down on the mother's side.

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>>54689977

Yeah, it's really about execution and not concept but people don't see that unless they actually read stuff. They think people just bitch because there's a black girl in a comic, not because the writing and character are both shit. I have a soft spot for Kamala because she's actually a likable character and the entire comic isn't dedicated to how shitty it is to be a Muslim in America.

>>54690417
Civil marriage between a strict Chinese Businessman who wants to utilize Jewish Guilt and Stern Chinese Disapproval to raise the Hyper-Asian Overachiever child, and a Jewish woman who wanted to marry a successful Chinese Businessman.

The resulting offspring is a child so obedient they're able to keep kosher in China!

>>54690481
Mein gott.
Thats some next level eugenics.

>>54690413

>That's literally what she had been doing.

That's pretty great.

As an aside: I just remembered there is actually a hero version of this. Sentinels of the Multiverse has Mr Fixer. He's a car mechanic/martial arts hero. Most of his time he's beating someone with a tool from his shop.

>>54690451

It's a pretty good quote for a hero to work with, even outside the religious aspects. Does a lot to address the whole 'I can't save everyone' depression that most heroes fall into at one point or another.

>>54690417
There's Chinese jewish minorities from migrating jewish communities. Israel doesn't recognize them, but that doesn't impact their practice and self identify.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews

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>>54690371
>Though I'll admit I'm laughing at the idea of the heroes attacking a big doomsday device only to hear 'You fools, it will take more than that! I built it to code!'

"I'll dupe you, Batman, just like those oysters with the help of 'The Walrus!'* Muwhahahahaha!", shouted The Carpenter. "Kaloo Kalay no work today, Batman!", added The Walrus.

*(shitty Penguin knockoff)

>>54690363
I just kind of think it's an interesting point on how it feels like people are encouraged to rebel, to tear down something evil, but what if the world isn't being evil to you and there's nothing to rebel against?

>>54690417
At least historically there was a small group of people in China who claimed to be Jews, though they'd been out of contact with the wider Jewish world for so long they'd lost a lot of their practices and all. Probably isn't related to that, but still an interesting historical footnote.

>>54690517
>That's pretty great.

Yeah, I like her. I don't think she had been in much stuff, though (then again, I only read comics when I happen upon /co/).

Had a pretty fun issue where she tried going legit, but had "one last job" to some villain... who then promptly didn't want to pay her, and threw her in the deathtrap she built along with Batman.

Worked out about as good as you expect.

>>54690451
>They think people just bitch because there's a black girl in a comic, not because the writing and character are both shit.
And that despite both Green Lantern and Captain America having been black at some point with nobody complaining. Because it made sense and the characters were enjoyable individuals, not SJW sockpuppets who base their entire identity around their race and gender.

>>54690491
>Thats some next level eugenics.
You didn't hear recently about that method that's been discovered to "cut" hereditary diseases out of an embryo's DNA? Because of retarded faux-moral bullshit scientists aren't allowed to let said embryo grow into a full human (because the previous method where 'defective' embryos were thrown away like trash is so much more moral!) but we're already entering the age of eugenics. Sadly, because the West is now full of pussies who decide what sounds nice takes precedence over what works, it will probably be the Chinese who innovate in this field and end up with an average IQ of 140.

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>>54689840

>>54689645
>>54689672
>>54689856
She's actually the gal that builds all the secret lairs and death traps for all the villains in Gotham.

>>54690174
Representation for the sake of representation is not fine.

Would a sjw be opposed to me telling a brown kid to fuck off because black kids are in low supply atm.

>>54689977
>The youtube channel Diversty & Comics
And that's where you went full retard. Holy fucking shit, how fucking many autistic cocks do you guzzle when you WILLFULLY suggest someone to watch that fucking cocksucker?

>>54690793
You mean because of retarded mongoloid ISIS-tier Christian cucks and faggots crying about science fixing God's fucking retarded failed shit project called the human genome.

>>54690885
Pshh, nah. If that were the case than the Europe that's enlightened by their own intelligence would've done this a long time ago. It's not so much about Christians as it's about "muh feels" lefties.

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>>54690793
>The reason the embryos were not brought to term was faux-morals
>Not the fact that off target edits were still a risk even with the current method, and that implantation of such embryos would not only be technically difficult but ethically fraught as the embryos were deliberately afflicted with genetic disease, oh and of course because the trial was a proof of concept in a lab and in no way actually proves the true reliability and safety of the method which will need to be established via further clinical trials

Normally I'm all for "eugenics" but please stop talking out of your ass when you know nothing of medicine or bio-ethics

>>54690879
What's wrong with him? He reads the comics and shows every page, letting you know what's in them without actually having to financially support the SJW machine yourself.

>>54690891
Err, we "muh feels" lefties are allowed to do much more genetic research and embryo research than you retarded Christ-cucked Americunts.

>>54690891
Just because Europe is "atheist" doesn't mean that as a culture it has given up the Judeo-Christian morals which shaped it

>>54689330
Your villain was copied from Quantum of Solace?

>>54690902
The left is almost as bad though, look at shit like GMOs and other crap which the left rejects on the basis of nothing more than 'feefees'. The left is comprised of just as many ideologically blinded people as the right, they just tend to be slightly less backwards when it comes to most applications of empiricism and applied research, but that is more because it's a part of their faith based ideology rather than because they actually are died in the wool logical positivists.

>>54690910
Except that's exactly what it means. Now you get shit like mudslimes kidnapping girls, raping them, murdering them, and grinding them up into meat for kebabs, and the europoors do nothing about it because "that would be racist."

Whelp, we had a nice thread until /pol/ arrived

>>54690935
The left's response to GMOs is organic products that you can buy if you want, or not if you don't give a shit. The right's response to things like embryo research is to bad it.

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>>54690940
>Except that's exactly what it means. Now you get shit like mudslimes kidnapping girls, raping them, murdering them, and grinding them up into meat for kebabs, and the europoors do nothing about it because "that would be racist."
Americans trying to understand the far and distant country of Europe.

>>54690950
>The left doesn't try to ban GMOs
I take it you've never heard of a little place called Europe?

>>54690961
Never heard of Rotherham eh?

TL:DR version

For years pakistani gang abducts white girls (age 11 to 16) from poor families and child hostels, gave them alcohol and drugs, gang rape them then drop them off home.

Some girls this happened to weekly for years.

Local Council: "We can't do anything because that would look racist"

1,400 girls identified as victims, probably more that killed themselves or who don't want to come forwards.

But you'll just claim it didn't happen right, cuck?

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>>54691003
>Never heard of Rotherham eh?
>TL:DR version
>For years pakistani gang abducts white girls (age 11 to 16) from poor families and child hostels, gave them alcohol and drugs, gang rape them then drop them off home.
>Some girls this happened to weekly for years.
>Local Council: "We can't do anything because that would look racist"
>1,400 girls identified as victims, probably more that killed themselves or who don't want to come forwards.
>But you'll just claim it didn't happen right, cuck?
>UK
>part of Europe

I think you took a redpill overdose.

>>54690950
>>54690965
Anti-GMO stuff comes rather overwhelmingly from the political left due to environmentalist groups, hippies, and their ilk not liking anything they deem "Unnatrual" or "Unorganic" or whatever their current buzzword is. They also like the idea of millions of asian kids dying from malnutrition presumably

>>54690965
Except it's not only "the left" that want to ban GMOs. In France for exemple even right wing government were against GMOs.

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>>54689840
They also made the real Captain America a Nazi (a Hydra agent, no less) and are trying (and failing) to push a fat, lesbian Puerto Rican who speaks half her dialogue in gibberish Spanish as the 'new' captain.

>>54691087
>In France
In France the Overton window has shifted so far left, that even FN's economic policies are more left wing than the Democratic Party's. There are no true Classical Liberals left in France's political sphere, and given the history of the country that's a massive tragedy.

>>54690060
It's not "the agenda" it's everything. Marvel's ordinary books are also completely shit. It's because people like Alonso, Bendis and Brevoort are the ones with the cloud and they think hamfisted social issues = controversy and $$$.

>>54691037

I'm lefty as fuck and I can't stand anti-GMO stuff. It's just...it doesn't make any sense and 'Organic' stuff has higher rates of food poisoning.

Then again, I'm lefty and environmentalist but anti-green parties (I support investment in nuclear power to deal with high power requirements in addition to renewable as it's a lot better environmentally to use breeder reactors than fucking coal but the green parties here are '100% renewable or nothing' rather than accepting a progression towards renewable.)

I guess that puts me in a bit of an odd place politically.

>>54690204
I was already embarrassed for you when you mentioned Berkeley.

>>54691037
The both the right and the left have purity virtue signaling stuff going on, for the left their idea of "purity" comes from the common idea that nature=good and they signal this partially by what they consume. I'd also hazard a guess that a good chunk of it also has to do with subsuming their own fears of mortality which have been stoked recently by constant deluges of news about which foods are "killing them" or "unhealthy" and such.

>They also like the idea of millions of asian kids dying from malnutrition presumably
To be fair though, so far almost no GMO crop ever really was as good as was hoped for and probably wouldn't have solved hunger or anything. There were lots of problems like getting them to take to their new environments, produce as well as they do in the lab, getting natives to use them and such. Though with modern tools like CRISPR-CAS9 which can make transformation more easy and reliable, allowing one turn on and off genes, and even insert whole strings of synthetic DNA. Combine that with advances in AI deciphering of gene regulatory networks and large datasets brought on by cheap genomic sequencing and the field is certainly going to get a lot more interesting in the coming years. Only problem is going to be the current climate of extreme regulation on GMOs. I mean there's that one case recently which took 20 years to get approval for a change in one gene in a fish. I can't imagine what it's going to be like to try to make anything interesting and sell it.

>>54691089
Uh no you're totally wrong there. Miss America was created by Casey and Dragotta way back, and turned into the current character by Gillen in his Young Avengers in a deliberate Wonder Woman riff. She's never been a replacement Captain America, but there was a Cap supporting character way back who was a Miss America.

The replacement Cap for a long time (before the current HYDRA series and - obligatorily - HYDRA aren't Nazis albeit they're Nazi-connected) was Falcon, Sam Wilson. He's still got the mantle I guess but I believe in the aftermath of Secret Empire he'll be returning to the Falcon moniker.

Miss America the book is terrible, and a total waste of Villalobos art, and vaguely racist but I don't mind the character. She was good in Ultimates which was recently cancelled, and I actually did like the Young Avengers. Patriot, Eli Bradley, was this black teen Cap-associated hero who feels like a really blatant omission from the Secret Empire stuff. They've replaced him with some new one so I assume there's a corporate issue.

And Miss America isn't fat too, gotta say. And technically she's not Puerto Rican either, wihich is part of where the "vaguely racist" thing comes from.

t. reads comics sometimes

>>54689094
Carpenter doesn't fight, she designs and builds death traps and supervillain lairs and shit like that. She's intentionally very Silver Age-y and comedic.

>>54691011
>UK is not in Europe

Right, so the whole Brexit thing is made up

Ok, how about the yearly mass rapes in German cities?

Is Germany also not in Europe?

>>54691192
That's a german cultural tradition. Like Ramadan

>>54691192
> yearly mass rapes in German cities?
Sounds fun, where can I get a ticket to the annual rapapalooza?

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>>54691207
>Like Ramadan

>>54690290
I'm glad summer is almost over.

>>54691275
Summer is endless. 4chan got 5 million new users during the electoral cycle.

>>54689840
I don't care about /pol/ and I wouldn't care about Marvel's staff beliefs if not the fact that for the sake of pushing some SJW agenda they fucked up all my favorite heroes and plotlines.

>>54691315
gibe examples

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>>54691275
>He thinks eternal summer will ever be over

>>54689094
Caine from Vampire the Masquerade

>>54691323
Not him but....

Spiderman in the new movie, for example; making Captain America evil; replacing tony Stark with a need-no-man Black Grrl; femThor, etc. etc. Basically, no white male can achieve anything good or useful unless nonwhite females help them, and any female always succeeds on their own, and all evil people must now be white and male.

I'd bet a one-on-one ERP session that Dr. Doom turns out to be nonwhite and a good guy in the end, or white and totally evil.

>>54689706

Holy fuck

>>54691382
Dr. Doom is already white and totally evil.
Put on your robe and wizard hat, boy. *unzips dick*

>>54689706
Fucking Frozen song will stay in my head for the rest of the day now.

>>54689977

>Not him, but you're blind if you don't see the bias

No shit there's a bias. What you idiots don't understand is that there's always been a bias. There's always been an agenda. Comic books like TV shows and movies are a product, and the management appeals to whatever demographic they think will sell. For 60 years the demographic they pandered to the hardest was young white men. Now they're trying something different. In 15 years there'll be something else.

The victim-complex on display and lack of awareness is mind-boggling.

>>54691382
>or white and totally evil.

So...he might turn out to be DOOM? Doom has always been evil, he's just evil with a vision/a willingness to do non-evil things if it benefits him.

>>54691382
>Spiderman in the new movie, for example
???
I haven't seen it.

Also Dr. Doom is good now , since Secret Wars.

These aren't really the specific examples of favorite heroes and plotlines I was looking for though. Are you saying Iron Man and Thor were your favorite heroes?

>>54691414
Ah, but they're making a new movie, and with the current track record....there's a an equal chance he's jus' a misunnastood black dood.

>>54691422
They're shifting back to young white men now because SJW Marvel sold like shit

>>54689645
.....against BATMAN?

>>54691129
>Patriot, Eli Bradley, was this black teen Cap-associated hero who feels like a really blatant omission from the Secret Empire stuff. They've replaced him with some new one so I assume there's a corporate issue.
Oh man, is he related to the black "Original Captain America" Isaiah Bradley? Now that's a fucking top notch legacy character race change.

>>54691434
He didnu nuthin he a good boy jus wunna make good place for his friends in TwatLARPia!

>>54691422
>The victim-complex on display
No, what lefties are doing is victim complex. What comicbook enthousiasts are doing is voting with their wallets because they're sick of the victim complex narrative pushing. They're saying that they're sick of what's happening to their favorite heroes and don't want to stick along for the ride, not that the government should introduce some white male quota in storytelling or creating some white-male variant of the retarded Bechdel test (one that interestingly enough both Keijo and Queen's Blade pass with flying colors, making them the most feminist anime around).

>>54691434
You also have to keep in mind that movie's going to be fucking awful.

And he's probably gonna be an evil white dude, like he always is, and also have basically nothing to do with Dr. Doom.

>>54691442

Batman got his back broken by a drug addicted wrestler and one of his greatest threats is a clown. It's all in how you sell the character.

You're all retarded.

Comic books don't need to make money anymore. They're nothing more than a testing ground for comic movies. Comic movies is where the real money is.

>What comicbook enthousiasts are doing is voting with their wallets...

No one at DC and Marvel cares. All they care about is the Chinese voting with their wallets.

>>54691444
Yeah, he's the son of Josiah Bradley and grandson of Isaiah. But like I say, he got written out of comics and hasn't been seen since.

It's a weird omission from the kind of stuff Secret Empire and FalCap have tried to hit and you do notice it. It's like how Rage had this whole arc and Night Thrasher was back around - but Dwayne never visited Rage? I can get why you might want to avoid Night Thrasher in a serious comic but Dwayne basically made himself Rage's big brother and they had an incredibly close, familial relationship where they looked out for each other.

Patriot retired somewhere in Arizona - I always wanted him and American Eagle to team up.

>>54691467
Comic books =/= capeshit.

>>54690451
This. I don't recall anyone ever giving X-men's Storm shit, including decades ago. Nothing in this regard changed now, at least when the character is written as she always were. The shit people get for writing "minority" character is because they're not a decent characters who happen to be minority, but they're built around that theme and serve as mouthpieces for propagation/fights against certain political agendas, stereotypes and whatnot.

>>54691494

>This. I don't recall anyone ever giving X-men's Storm shit, including decades ago.

Where, there was a bit when she went full tribal or when she lost her powers and and wore that mohawk. That was all kinda odd.

>>54690815
Red skull is red pilled af, who wrote this?!

>>54689094

Dick of Vecna.

Had a mind of its own, that mind was largely focused on Succubuses, so it was low level as fuck from all the level drains.

>>54691422
This. We mainly notice SJW shit these days because it's a new, radicalized movement that's risen to prominence recently, but the other agendas have always been there. We don't notice them getting pushed because they're background noise to us.
Seriously, just as an example, the original Star Trek had an episode defending abortion. That was 48 years ago. Let that sink in.

>>54691566

I think the point of the comic was 'Red Skull will say literally whatever is needed to get people on his side/he's a skilled manipulator' more than anything about the message itself.

>>54691566
Later in the comic this somehow turns into those guys becoming suicide bombers. Don't as me how, because I didn't understand it either.

>>54691666
...they got indoctrinate into the terrorist organization called Hydra?

Seems pretty straightforward.

>>54691661
>Seriously, just as an example, the original Star Trek had an episode defending abortion. That was 48 years ago. Let that sink in.

It also had an episode saying that women can't be starfleet captains and then has the episode demonstrate exactly why the woman shouldn't be a captain.

GENE!

Well there was this Eldar Corsair captain who kept harassing us. Normally angry eldar would be a serious problem for a Rogue Trader but he had an overinflated ego and severe delusions about the capabilities of his ship and crew. If you think of our ship as a Nimitz class aircraft carrier then he was attacking us in a plastic rowboat. Imagine a saturday morning cartoon villain with twice the failure rate and twice the unwillingness to give up.

>>54689512
>GM lets you rape the NPC and pal around with the BBEG
>doesn't pitch a fit
>doesn't walk
I would say you don't know how good you've got it, but that never actually happened.

>>54689094

Moonquake II.

Basically, he was the son of the original Moonquake, a Silver Age hero. After the original Moonquake succumbed to depression, he took up his father's legacy and proceeded to run it into the ground through a combination of being an emo little shit and teenaged angst. His gravity control powers were substantial, anyway.

My PC, who was one of the first superheroes - Notably, he didn't age - beat him the way Captain America wishes he could beat the stupid out of Hank Pym.

>>54691678
Contrary to liberal understanding of the world, white conservatives do not suicide bomb american people.

>>54690726
I liked her appearance in one of those Harley & Ivy comics where she shows up to build a lair, gives them piece of paper with the quote on the cost, able to command a huge fee because she is literally just a licensed general contractor electrician, plumber and carpenter.

It's like wondering why Ivy bothers with all the bank robbery and extortion jobs when she could get a huge salary as a top grade biochemist.

>>54691566
Obviously he's red-pilled, he's a nazi. "Red-pilled" is a synonym for "fell for nazi propaganda".

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>>54691666
It's actually the next page.

>>54692475

It's not exactly an impossibility. Poe Elementary School and the Bath School disaster were both done by white Americans. While it's unsure if you can call them conservatives or not (Since neither held political office the details are sketchy) it's not like people who believe the world has turned against them blowing themselves up is uniquely new/a non-white thing.

>>54692475
Instead, they grab a gun and start murdering innocent people at the food court of the local mall until they get shot in the head by the SWAT.

>>54692587
>getting so mad about comics you photoshop it

I knew /pol/fags were pathetic sissies, but this is some next level faggotry.

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One of the things I hate about comics is when they try to be smart when the author is an idiot. Pic related, evolution is a theory but that does not mean the author actually understand what a scientific theory is to begin with.

I wonder when Marvel will give up on this crap.

>>54692666

I don't think comics are ever, ever, EVER going to stop being stupid about evolution.

>>54690427
You technically can and israelian religious authorities will recognize you even if a lot will not like you.

>>54691430
>I haven't seen it.
Pete's lusting over some black chick through the whole movie, and at the end you find out that his sassy brown friend is actually Mary Jane.

>>54692690
My issue is that they are trying to sell this woman as some super genius but fucked up such basic terminology. Actually that might be an interesting story if someone ran with it, where some character actually is a genius but is so high on their own fumes they have all sorts of retarded ideas about the world and refuse to address them.

>>54692666
>I wonder when Marvel will give up on this crap.

Probably when Disney tells them to start making a profit or they'll liquidate the paper division.

>>54692690
>>54692666
What annoys me is they could have at least googled the "Theory of Evolution" or "what is the difference between scientific theory, law, hypothesis and fact" before writing that.

We're talking middle school science tier stuff here.

>>54690902
The left bitches about shit like GMOs and Nuclear power. It's literally a fucking religion of "feellgood" at this point, don't pretend it ain't.

>>54689330
This is why I banned almost all Create Necessity spells.

>>54692767
It'll happen when we reach the end of Marvel 3rd wave of films, and Disney begin looking at the popularity of current comics for new film ideas. And then realise that the comic division is selling less copies than the population of a town.

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>>54692760
>>54692782

To be honest, my eyes just sort of start skimming the moment a comic starts talking about evolution. This is not even close to the bullshit I've seen on that topic so I just sort of assume comic book evolution basically works like comic book radiation. It's fucking magic.

>Actually that might be an interesting story if someone ran with it, where some character actually is a genius but is so high on their own fumes they have all sorts of retarded ideas about the world and refuse to address them.

I believe we call that man 'Reed Richards'

>>54692760
>My issue is that they are trying to sell this woman as some super genius but fucked up such basic terminology.
My issue is with what qualifies as a scientific genius in the marvel universe to begin with. I've seen in a spiderman comic book some random hobo build gravity manipulation gauntlets by dumpster diving for parts. Gravity manipulation? Why aren't these people multi-billionaires? Why isn't the average marvel universe car a flying self-driving car powered by fusion or whatever powercell goes into those blasters and laser guns everyone uses.

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>>54689094
That not even the lamest villain in batman OP

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>>54689664
>new femThor

Read the Eddas.

>>54692891
Thats crossdressing. not taking away Thors powers and giving them to his girlfirend, who promptly dumps him.

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>>54692910
>taking away Thors powers
and giving them [to someone else]

You act like that hasn't happened a dozen times already.

>>54692910

Eh, it's not the first time. Back in the 90s we had the man who would later become Thunderstrike become Thor for a while.

You can tell how well it went with how easy it is to remember who the fuck Thunderstrike was and what he did.

>>54692830
>Why aren't these people multi-billionaires?
They generally sell it as "we arent ready enough". Which is why they're not giving away the cure for cancer, even though they have a cure for it in the back of their garage.

>>54692821
>This is not even close to the bullshit I've seen on that topic so I just sort of assume comic book evolution basically works like comic book radiation. It's fucking magic.
I don't necessarily mind if people have a poor grasp on science. Rather what frustrates me is when they try to portray their plot as scientifically accurate. Star Wars for instance is a load of bullshit if you ever read their explanations for technology, but technology is just an excuse to move the plot forward. But if you're going to try to use your stories science/technology/whatever as a selling point it damn well better be on point.

>>54692943
Only good one was BRB.

>>54690204
>I'm a Chinese jew
That's fucking disgusting on so many levels.
How do you prepare dog kosher style? Is that why they get dropped into boiling oil alive?

>>54692974

>I don't necessarily mind if people have a poor grasp on science. Rather what frustrates me is when they try to portray their plot as scientifically accurate.

It's why I rather like Pym Particles and Unstable Molecules. Fuck no, they are not real. Fuck no, they don't even pretend that's real life physics. Pym is a science man, he did the science. Let's get to having mental breakdowns and putting on like twenty different superhero costumes.

>>54692948
Eric Masterson?

I think the thing people miss is these characters are rarely brought in to permanently replace a character. I mean >>54692910 was Jane even with Thor at the point she got the hammer? I'm pretty sure this happened in a What If? in the 1980s so it's not like it's the first time the concept has been tried.

I actually think Jane Foster w/ the Hammer is a decent idea for a comic, it's the long-drawn out nature of the 'mystery' of Thor being unworthy and generally shitty writing from Aaron that's let it all down. Parts of it read like he just got done with a Feminism 101 textbook and you need to be better than that if you're making points. The cancer thing and worthiness thing were both very unsatisfactorily addressed.

>>54693011

Oh yeah. I'm all for 'Sure, put a woman in the role' (I mean, that's how we got Captain Marvel and later Miss Marvel as a result of that slot being open) and even I don't like Jane!Thor. It's poorly written, not remotely thought out and incredibly, incredibly sexist against both genders (Both treating women as complete sociopaths and treating men as bottom sucking scum).

It's just a bad comic, independent of the value of Jane Foster as Thor for a while.

>>54691037
The problem isn't with GMO's inherently, but that that nobody likes monsanto. This isn't just because of alleged shady behavior, but because when it comes right down to it, modern GMO's are based more around quantity than quality. This is fine when we are trying to feed a million third worlders, but food grown by organic farmers who know what the fuck they are doing just tastes better most of the time. An aside, the label "organic" in of itself, is fairly meaningless, regulations are loose enough that some pretty shitty farms get certified all the time, and annoying enough that I personally know a few fantastic farms that are dropping organic because it's too much of a hassle/they don't like that the government took charge of it/it's lost so much of its meaning. None of that is to say that GMO food cannot be better than "natural" food (what the fuck is natural about farming anyway), but simply that as of now, it is not, at least on the scale of smaller, higher quality establishments.

>>54692629
No, again, that's liberals.

>>54692666
I might be autistic but this happens to me for a lot of things. That Sherlock show with Lucy Liu as Watson was killed for me when Sherlock starts going off on a supposedly intelligent tangent but immediately refers to ferrets as rodents.

I mean, the show seemed shit anyway but that really pulled me out.

>>54693095
It depends. Had a dumbass biology teacher back in highschool, she was both a christfag and a leftist. Keep in mind a leftist in this nation is far to the left of the US left in most issues.
Anyway, bitch would do shit like teach creationism and say evolution was "only a theory", while also chanting about how GMOs and nuclear power mutate people horrendously, or that there is no impact of nature it's all nurture. To this day I don't know how much bullshit could fot inside one person.

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>>54691011
Germany is in Cuckistan, not Europe.

>>54693190
>Anyway, bitch would do shit like teach creationism and say evolution was "only a theory", while also chanting about how GMOs and nuclear power mutate people horrendously, or that there is no impact of nature it's all nurture.
I have to wonder how these people arent kicked out for spreading blatant misinformation. I remember when I was round 10 or 11 I want to say? Some substitute teacher tried to tell us wind happened because the Earth spun really fast or some crap to that effect that I could tell was bullshit even then. In hindsight I wished I had said something to the administration because that man had no business teaching children.

>>54690947
>Whelp, we had a nice thread until /pol/ arrived
Remember, we're not being invaded by /pol/tards and saying otherwise means you're just a paranoid cuck!

>>54692622
>has to pull non-relevant examples from nearly a century ago, tenuously tying them purely on the basis of race

Holy kek you make our arguments for us.

>>54692629
Oh sweetie, not every white person who does something illegal is doing it because they're a nazi. I mean, it's not like they're screaming 'ALLAH ACKBAR' the whole time or pledging themselves to ISIS like SOME criminals we might mention... ;^)

>>54693229
Schools are lazy and have low standards. It's like a curse, don't know how else to explain it.

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>>54693125
I guess that home inspector was REALLY feeling the Bern, huh?

>>54693229
Teacher's Unions have a lot to do with shit like this, in concert with school boards. Good luck fixing that, though.

>>54693254
>someone disagrees with you

>REEEEEEEEE MOMMY MOMMY HE'S DOING IT AGAIN REEEEEEEEE JANNIES JANNIES WHERE ARE THE JANNIES REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54692910
>Woman becomes more successful than her boyfriend
>Dumps him for a black guy

Hey, at least they're honest.

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How ive relished this meeting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igo6VNWvr-s

>>54693262

>has to pull non-relevant examples from nearly a century ago, tenuously tying them purely on the basis of race

Well, America doesn't have many suicide bombing cases of any sort.

>Poe Elementary School
>Bath School disaster
>2005 University of Oklahoma bombing
>Northwest Airlines Flight 253
>Continental Airlines Flight 11
>National Airlines Flight 2511

6 of them in recorded history, only 2 of them past the 60s and even then one of those was judged to be a guy who just fucked up his explosives rather than actively tying to kill himself and the last guy was a nigerian.

Conservatives in america are about as likely to suicide bomb as liberals, muslims or anyone else in america. Astronomically unlikely.

>>54689094
It really depends on how much hype the GM gives the adversary, and how easy the solution to the problem is in the world of the game.

>>54693262
>tenuously tying them purely on the basis of race

The person they were replying to was saying white conservatives people don't suicide bomb.

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>>54693485
I don't think many whites would support suicide bombing. I also think that if yoy take the total suicide bombings worldwide, muslims would be on the top by a mile.
I'm not a white american though, so what the hell do I know amirite?

>>54693552

That top title feels a bit misleading. Violence against Civilian Targets =/= Suicide bombing. It's not remotely good but suicide bombing is a very specific subtype of it.

That and muslims were not part of it at all. Someone was saying that it wasn't believable to have Hydra indoctrinated people acting as suicide bombers because 'White conservatives don't suicide bomb american people'. Ignoring the whole 'Hydra followers' part and that suicide bombing of ANY group is basically a non-issue in america so their political affiliation doesn't matter in the face of 'Hydra agents'

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>>54693552
>I don't think many whites would support suicide bombing
Sure anon, whites are saints who don't support violence in any form, let alone perpetrate it in pursuit of their ideologies. Nope. Only Muslims would ever do such a thing.

>>54693339
I'm sorry your posts keep getting deleted, anon.

>>54693339
Disagreement with /pol/ isn't the problem, the problem is that a 150 post thread supposedly about roleplaying related villains has 100 posts consisting of the exact same political talking points and canned replies abouts SJWs and oogaboogas and nazis and redpills and religion that have derailed hundreds of threads before this. The discussion is about as interesting and relevant to the board as the 100th time we had a flamewar about how thoroughly a steak should be cooked

>>54693254
>Invaded
Anon, /pol/ is 4chan now, you're in the belly of the beast being slowly digested, but there is no 'invasion'.

>>54693705
>d relevant to the board as the 100th time we had a flamewar about how thoroughly a steak should be cooked
For the record it's the objective truth that a steak should be blue rare to medium rare and that's it.

>>54689094
I once used a very brave old man.
He had 'taken over' a tool shed owned by some farmer, who he fended off with a now sharpened hoe. Dude was like a level 2 commoner and old as balls, max of about 2 damage, 4 on a crit.

Depressingly he almost killed the ranger's pet dog who has since adopted the old man's insult as a name; Cerebrum.
Party later learned he was very senile. And the farmer only wanted him removed from his shed, as he was beloved by the community (I gave them every chance, including a very obvious flower crown with a local flower girl's flowers) but no instead he became an impromptu boss.

>>54693734
4chan isn't anything and never will be, it's the nature of the site. You're this year's fad m8.

>>54693845
>4chan isn't anything and never will be
Wrong 4chan is definitely a pile of shit.

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>>54693734
>4chan
>Being anything cohesive ever
The mind of a redditor.
>>54693884
Then why are you even here?

>>54693884
That's true.

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>>54693897
>Then why are you even here?

>>54693678
And let's not forget the most frequently overlooked of the Axis powers, Ireland.

>>54693678
Some people have just very short memory.

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>>54693897

>>54691566
>>54690815
Don't get too excited, the comics are painting him those who think this as in the wrong, that's why they have red skull saying it, so they can say the message is evil

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>>54693945

>>54693940
When people started crying about the Manchester bombing I actually thought that the IRA was at it again for a minute.

>>54693945
To be fair, most of the /pol/tards posting here probably weren't born when the OKC bombing happened.

>>54693969
>Ireland
>white

>>54690204
>Chinese Jew

R A R E
A
R
E

>>54694037
DESU They are more white than Brits

>>54694093
The word "white" frequently falls under dog whistle politics. People almost never mean white people when they say white people; they mean people of a certain political and cultural tribe.

>>54689094
I once had a game where the hidden twist was not to defeat the BBEG, but to do so faster than one of several other NPC adventuring parties in the area.

So here's to you, Auyric of the storm tribe, killed by an off-screen band of NPC murderhobos.

>>54694124

Then please enlighten me what sort of culture "white" is and how it differs from western/european culture? Just wanting to know so i don't stumble with this in future.

>>54694201
Not Irish or Slav you fucking subhuman.

>>54689330

Thats a bad GM then. Could have just had the merchant parley with the city council and offer access to the wells for exclusion to any cleric that produces water outside of them. Then the players have the issue of having the city guard, the merchant, angry peasants and workers wanting a drink , general desperation and so on.

Don't even need to make it a monster campaign. Just a single city where an influential merchant became the City Prince by monopolising and manipulating shit like happened in actual history.

Make sure to make the desert guards are prepared and viably threatening while also making it a 'noone is selling the players shit because the merchant made them untouchable due to proximity to a non-loyal cleric'.

>>54694210
Not sure if overcompensating American mutt or assblasted Eurotrash.

>>54689330
The thing about that is that the guys who would be potentially enforcing the seals also have to drink water. And their families have to drink water. It's a poorly thought out plan.

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>>54693969

>>54694201
People are usually only talking about white conservatives who live near them when they're talking about white people. This applies when conservatives say it, too.

>>54693678
>One literally insane man blew up a building twenty years ago
>This somehow equates to a religion that has several millions of adherents in a geographic region that remains a war torn wasteland full of angry young men who remain prime targets for radicalization

Are you trying to be smug or are you just retarded?

>>54693678
>lone anti-government radical decades ago

Vs.

>millions of religious maniacs yesterdsy

Stereotypes exist for a reason~

>>54693969
>communist revolutionaries are right wing radicals now

One plus one equals three. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

>>54693984
>attacking children with a suicide bomb

Not their style. If it'd been soldiers, maybe. Only durkas would choose that target.

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>>54692587
Kudos to whoever made this. It's essentially the same as tumblr fan "art" where they fatten up a character from popular media to make themselves feel better.

>>54694557
>only right wing violence is violence

Said who?

>>54694646
I'm not the one trying (and failing) to prove there's a right wing terrorism problem in the world today, you are

>>54694675
Islam's pretty right-wing :^)

>>54693229
>Wind happened because the Earth spun really fast
The Earth's spin is one of the factors that determine how the wind blows, though

>>54691112
Hey, we're in the same boat my dude.

>>54693940
They were neutral!

>>54694738
Ah, but it's also Islam, which I and others have correctly pointed out is the most violent ideology in the world today. We're not the ones trying to draw false equivalency with other groups in an effort to white wash a religion whose entire history is drenched in blood.

>>54694771
Oh I'm right there with you, not that other anon trying to damage control for what is easily the most barbaric religion on the planet.

>>54694771

>We're not the ones trying to draw false equivalency with other groups in an effort to white wash a religion whose entire history is drenched in blood.

I'm pretty sure this started with 'White conservatives wouldn't suicide bomb' even though said characters were also...well...Hydra indoctrinated. That and the ideology they were espousing was more tied to nationalism than conservatism.

>>54692577
>Fell for the truth
>Haha, what dorks. I'm enlightened because I fell for ww2 wartime propaganda about holocaust rollercoasters and shrunken skulls

>>54694793
Except right wing nationalists don't go out and suicide bomb.

It's amazing what a failure that comic is. Not only is the propaganda angle obvious, but it draws attention to the ACTUAL primary actors in terrorism today. It does the opposite of what propaganda should be doing!

>>54689840
I'd rather see more Vergil Tracy than some random black girl piggybacking off a white man's name.

>>54694841

>Except right wing nationalists don't go out and suicide bomb.

In america basically no one goes out and suicide bombs. I mean, you could have it be an american Muslim and it would have just as much basis in 'Things that have happened in america'.

That and Hydra as a group kinda has a history of indoctrinated suicide attackers. That's not really new for them.

>>54690335
>The city rapidly becomes split between the two warring factions
Time for the rest of the party to show up as mysterious, well armed mercenaries

>>54694911
They don't go on stabbing sprees, shooting sprees...they don't crash planes in skyscrapers or drive trucks of peace into Christmas shoppers...they don't show up and try to murder crowds of people drawing cartoons mocking them...

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>>54693454
Honestly he is bad, but he wasn't bad enough to be written out of existence.

No that award goes to the Penny Plunderer!

Sadly stealing pennies somehow became less meaningful over time. Till they literally killed him (electric chair for his crimes) and then in the reboots retributed his best crimes to other villain, like two face making that giant penny in the trophy room.

>>54690779
>Captain America having been black
At the exact same time Sam became Cap, marvel was doing it's damnedest to pretend Eli and the Bradleys didn't exist, which is a major part of the problem. Femthor came out within a year of marvel screwing over both sif and Valkyrie, etc

>>54693095
Monsanto also really destroys diversity in crops. There are dozens of types of corn and maize in Mexico. There is one kind of corn in the US, and it's strictly designed to ship well and look pretty, not taste good or be healthy.
And if they get their way, there will only be one kind of corn in Mexico soon.

Who let /co/mblr out of their containment board?

>>54695465
Who let reddit out of their containment site?

>>54695067
That makes no sense, they are shunning real diversity for... fake diversity? Are they fucking baked?

>>54689094
The Carpenter is a fucking great side character. I love the idea of a minor villain who builds the lairs of other villains.

>>54695498
Given the similarities that's basically what they asked.

>>54695565
There are some rather vocal people who believe that it doesn't count unless you literally replace the main characters. Adding new characters or using old ones doesn't cut it. They're pandering to those people.

>>54689645
It's honestly a better concept than "dude why dresses like a bat"

>>54691442
Nothing is a credible threat against a mary sue.

>>54695672
But they make up possibly the smallest pool of comic book readers or just don't read comics and wouldn't even if they did pander, is like trying to pander to a tyranid, you can feed it anything it wants but in the end its still going to eat you too.

>>54696129
Batman isn't a Mary sue

>>54696165
Yes, and that's why they're bleeding money.
The people that they pander to are the same people who want Link to be a girl, rather than a game where you play as Zelda or Impa.

>>54689330
>having abilities that ignore the conservation of energy and mass in your system as common spell shit

>>54696564
I question, how do they understand their demographics so poorly that they are doubling down on the thing hurting them?

>>54696888
Focus testing (which is almost never a good idea in any industry, let alone entertainment) and being the loudest voice in the room.

>>54689330

>create water is free

this isn't the DM's fault, outside of picking a shit system

>>54696606
>that ignore the conservation of energy and mass
aren't they just teleporting the water from the elemental water plane?

>>54697284
Also it vanishes if not drank in 15 minutes

>>54690451

I got tired of her when they had an entire arc of her comic be focused around "gentrification is a bad thing, so bad it's actually a plot by LITTERAL NAZIS"

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>>54691011

>UK
>this happened while it was part of the EU
>The EUROPEAN UNION

>>54689512

>Things that the aspie tard who got kicked out of every game he's ever been in wishes had happened

>>54691429

Doom was never totally evil. You've got it backwards. He has goals and objectives, and he has a willingness to do evil in pursuit of those ends. The fact that, for a long time, killing Reed was one of his goals doesn't make him evil, considering his other major(perennial) goal is protecting the people of Latveria. There's a reason he "turns good" any time something threatens the planet/universe/his country. Doom has no need of your petty morality- he's above it. And that doesn't make him evil.

>>54692651

I mean the unedited version isn't much better, and it's probably more honest. Surely even you can admit that there was way more violence against trump supporters than perpetrated by them, right?

>>54692943

except that was thor possessing people. There wasn't a definable thor from whom to take the powers. The existence of odinson shows that this is different.

>>54697505
Gentrification is literally the only reason why Paris still has tourists.

>>54693845 >>54693897

that's... you're revealing yourselves as new here. 4Chan is CONTRARIAN. So as long as the media and political power of the world remain left wing, 4chan will be right wing.

>>54691679
When you get right down to it, Voyager is an entire series about why women shouldn't be Starfleet captains.

>>54698030

also it's how cities grow. Gosh you mean they won't just let your fucking slum slowly collapse in on itself while the rest of the city grows up around you?

>>54697703
Nobody is above good and evil, and morality isn't petty

>>54692760
Could've been interesting in a 'she's a genius, but she doesn't have the terminology to express it' sort of way.

I read a short story once where an Italian boy seemed to love classical music, especially canons. It took a while for the main character to realize he wasn't the next Mozart, he was a mathematical genius who liked the music because of the mathematical perfection of it. But of course this uneducated Italian farmhand's son doesn't have any of the words to express any of this, even as he's able to recreate some mathematical experiment just through his own drawings in the dirt.

>>54697970
yea ok there buddy. Just ignoring every hate crime done in trumps name but oh one old raciest dude got curb stomped and its all crying mothers

>>54689094
Carpenter is great and cute and she tries her best, fuck you OP

>>54691442
Still better than The Riddler.

>>54692475
Nah, you're right, they just use truck bombs like in Oklahoma City.

>>54700166
Love that scene where batman facerapes her

>>54693762
I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THE ONLY WAY TO EAT STEAK IS WELL-DONE AND COVERED IN KETCHUP.

Nah but really, that thing needs to still be trying to run away when you cut into.

>>54700235
Excuse me?

>>54698065
>4Chan is CONTRARIAN
No it's not

>>54698087
ZIIIING!

>>54698065
4chan was founded on pretty left-leaning principles, and no matter how much things change those things will stick around. It's stupid to describe 4chan as contrarian, I think, in the same way it's stupid to describe Tumblr as nothing but SJWs. That's just the overwhelming echo chamber - a majority, probably, but not all that's there.

Even then, who really cares about politics when they're dealing with most media that has nothing to do with the real world? Comics are something of an exception, but why does this political shit keep coming up everywhere else when it's rarely ever on topic? I'm sick to death of it myself, and it's not even really funny anymore.

>>54700166
OP is okay, being sorta lame is part of her greatness.

/pol/ can fuck right off though

Lamest or most unexpected?

Ham sandwich... TPK from choking.

>>54690902
There is no scientific proof that gays are actually born that way

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>>54700530
>Comics are something of an exception, but why does this political shit keep coming up everywhere else when it's rarely ever on topic? I'm sick to death of it myself, and it's not even really funny anymore.
4chan got a ton of new posters herded onto /pol/ from the /r_donald board on reddit, and now we have to deal with a bunch of eternal newfags that weren't introduced to this place through /b/ like the rest of us. Consequently they don't understand 4chan etiquette.

>>54700552
Good enough to beat Mama Cass.

>>54700662
>he wasn't moulded by /tg/

>>54700677
I thought that was the CIA.

>>54700662
>/b/

Well shit. Guess I better hand in my newfag card and start over..

>>54700687
/tg/ wasn't around when I came to 4chan. I had to wait a couple years for that.

>>54700687
You merely adopted the /tg/. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't play RPGs until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but badwrongfun!

>>54700574

You opened this can of worms, so here's an opinion I have.

I have no problem at all with the gays. Mash your uglies against whatever uglies you prefer. However, and I'm no geneticist, but it seems to me that if homosexuality was genetic, there would be no queers. Sure, you can fake it, get married, have your Catholic church-sanctioned fucking for procreation, but in general, queers don't breed. Eventually, the "gay gene" would just die out from natural (lack of) selection.

That's just me, though.

>>54700768
>I'm no geneticist, but it seems to me that if sterility was genetic, there would be no sterile humans. Sure, you can fake it, get married, have your Catholic church-sanctioned fucking for procreation, but in general, sterile people don't breed. Eventually, the "sterile gene" would just die out from natural (lack of) selection.

But we have people who are born sterile.

Do you see why this argument doesn't make sense, even without going into the myriad of theories about why it's beneficial for a community of a certain size to have a few faggots hanging around?

Not that other poster btw, just wanted to point out your logical fallacy.

>>54689636
first appearance she was henching for the Mad Hatter (the walrus and the carpenter, get it?) who, being the betaest of all betas, only ever hires girls because it's the only way any of them talk to him other than mind control gadgets.
She ends up building deathtraps and secret lairs, but that's less actual construction than set work, so really she's more like a key grip than a carpenter.

>>54698253

>not understanding I'm describing Doom's perspective

the point is he's not pure good or evil.

>>54689094
GM made not!Donald Trump except he wasn't remotely funny or creative with it and basically resorted to basing a neo-nazi US president off a guy with jewish grandchildren because he's a fucking moron who will buy anything the mainstream media poops out.

I mean fuck, if you want a supervillain who is similar to Donald Trump (but better and cooler) then just fucking remake the modern Lex Luthor who WAS based off '90 Trump.

>>54691037
>They also like the idea of millions of asian kids dying from malnutrition presumably
Well if Asians don't want to starve then maybe they should do their own goddamn genetics research.

>>54694571
>what is Warrington

>>54700814

Valid point. I guess this is just me not being educated enough to understand how the world works. Because now I'm wondering how both queers and sterile people are still here.

>>54701163
Recessive traits?

>>54701163
(((How))) do you think?

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>>54689636
Do evil goon bureau's also apply gender quotas?

Here is Miss Marvel who represents the marvel brand image officially and is a lesbian latina who punches hitler in the first issue for being white, its not the same one where wonder woman talks about mansplaining.

while we all know who is behind hiring people to create characters like this, its like their not even hiding it anymore how they dominate the media.

Wonder how long until that bubble bursts cuz its gonna be ugly!

Dont have an image but there is a new villain or good girl named ISIS to show off how badass muslims literally the creators said as a response to Trump, guess what religion those creators are. Its literally the same group all the time, everytime, cant make this shit up. I used to think it was a conspiracy but every fucking time, lol.

>>54701356
I wonder (((what))) religion. Fucking spawns of Mammon are everywhere and the aryan race is awakening to it's power and the truth and its thulean heritage which will banish these demons

>black necromancer with a thing for demons. dubbed negromancer
im a terrible DM

>>54701322
Differently. Genuinely on "The Spectrum." Difficult to explain this mess in my head. I just try my best to get by.

>>54701163
I've heard ~5% is generally the cutoff for "purely" bad traits; anything less than that, it's plausible that it just sort of slips through. Anything more, and it's probably giving advantages elsewhere or tightly bound to something giving advantages elsewhere. Sickle cell anemia is the poster child for this- two copies of the gene renders you anemic, and thus at an obvious disadvantage. But one copy renders you resistant to malaria, which in the places it's found is a worthwhile tradeoff, so it sticks around at an alarming rate.

The rates for *purely* gay men I tend to hear at around 1-3%, so we can assume that's just a fluke that's not controlled for hard enough to eliminate completely. I don't know the rates for non-exclusive faggotry, but if it's higher than 5%, it's probably because it confers (or did confer; evolution is slow) some social benefit that outweighs whatever cost (if any) there is for hanging around things that aren't breeding females.

Sterility is presumably just a complex system not working out. It happens. That said, we think female age-based sterility is an intentional trait to encourage investing in the quality of current offspring rather than producing more. So it's plausible that other forms of sterility are more tolerated than they would be in a less quality-focused species, or maybe even slightly selected for in a super, super light version of hive behavior.

>>54701163
http://www.newsweek.com/female-frogs-estrogen-hermaphrodites-suburban-waste-369553

>>54701473
This is exceedingly helpful and informative. Thank you.

>>54701163
Understanding needs more than a basic layman's approach to the subject.

If nothing else, consider how dominant/recessive genes work.

>>54689664
>new femthor
You better not be talking about valkyrie

>>54689330
>ban create water spell as part of prepping the campaign
>problem solved
For fuck's sake how hard is it.

>>54700083

list three. now.

>>54701163

there's some evidence that it might be influenced by hormones(third sons are more likely to be gay then first) and some evidence that experience can cause it(young boys who are raped by men are more likely to be gay), so it's really hard to tell. That said, the leading theory, last I heard, on the hormone side is that excess children could cause the population to boom too much, but gay people act as a pressure relief in the form of adults capable of caring for kids who don't make more.

>>54702208

since he probably won't, I might as well explain- most of the media-hyped "racist" "trump supporter" attacks turned out to be bullshit, or false-flags. The black church with MAGA or whatever painted on the side and burned turned out to have been burned down by a black man who went to the church, for example. Meanwhile there have been numerous "anti-trump" riots(though, if we're honest, these probably did a fair bit to help him), in the aftermath of the election we had a young mentally challenged man kidnapped and tortured because he was white and muh trump, there's footage of black people attacking people yelling "Beat his ass, he voted for trump", a man was killed because some moron mistook a fucking UPS driver or whatever for trump(probably mentally ill, but when he's proud of what he did, I'm throwing it in because it's almost certainly a result of the media all but directly calling for Trump to be assassinated), we've got numerous examples of schools where groups of kids attacked individuals for stating their support of trump, and so on. The left is more violent than the right these days.

It won't last, of course. Once you've brought political violence back into vogue, it's not easy to undo, and the right tends to be the gun owners and the people who actually do physical work. Regardless of which side comes out on top though, we all lose.

>>54690060
See, the problem is that for years, Marvel has had no story. The SJW shit isn't getting in the way of things, it's a loud distraction from they have no things.

>>54702355
Too bad none of what you mentionned will actually get through to people because feels > facts. People want to believe there are rampant warbands and deathsquads of MAGA hat-wearing hooligans and white supremacist out to murder everyone.

>>54702410

They have story, its just shit. Every five minutes Miles gets a new love interest(to boost other comics' slales because he's popular), peter parker gets put in charge of a company and it gives him an interesting new dynamic so it's time to put that to fucking bed, etc.

>>54702586
Comics are a doomed medium because they are not allowed to tell self-contained stories or to change the status quo (or when they do its for basically the comic equivalent of clickbait or for a good concept that gets retconned away anyway)

>>54702622
>or to change the status quo

Gwen Stacy's death kinda utterly shattered spider man's status quo.

>>54702640
Yes but that was what, in the '70?

>>54696564
To be fair, girl Link would be far cuter than Zelda or Impa, and the whole reincarnation thing means there's no reason you couldn't have a femLink.

>>54696564
>>54702742
Not to mention the fact that a game in which you play as Zelda or Impa would have a very different feel and likely different gameplay.

>>54696564
>>54702816
I'd fucking love a game where you can switch between Link and Zelda or play them in co-op, each with their own unique gameplay.

>>54690174
I think this is the most coherent post I've ever seen on the topic, on /tg/ of all places

>>54703045
Doesn't matter, anyone in power and making media today has bought in hook, like and sinker into the progressive nonsense, which has done more damage to race relations than anything ever in recent history. This has reached the point I just groan when I see a new black/latino/gay/whatever or even female character because the odds of them being some form of pandering or soapboxing from the author approach a 100%.

But then again the white dudes are generally portrayed as super-beta numale coastal american types or a crude, imbecilic caricature of what coastal american hipsters think the rest of white people are. Which is to say nazis.

>>54702816

Id pay money for an impah focused game.

Also the hero is reincarnated in basically the same form each time, I don't think there's room for change there. Linkle was neat though, she was a fun comedy character

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>>54689094
Don't bully her.

>>54697999
Didn't Beta Ray Bill just get a copy of the hammer with all the power it implies, and then go on alien space horse adventures?

>>54692726
>Pete's lusting over some black chick through the whole movie, and at the end you find out that his sassy brown friend is actually Mary Jane.
Buddy if this gets your knickers in a twist you might have a slight case of the /pol/

>>54696179
No, all his enemies just act retarded so his plans can work.

>>54703180
Wow. I can smell the /pol/ on this post.

>>54704006
Yes and? Are you so allergic to the thought another person might think differently from you that it angers you to the point of violence? I wasn't "/pol/" years ago, I was a dyed-in-the-wool liberal.

However these last few years have been nothing but insanity and people kneejerking like you are only make 'teh /pol/ bogeyman' stronger because we know we're hitting a nerve so much you attempt to shut down our message because you fear confronting the possibility it might be even a tiny bit true.

>>54703866

In their first encounter he literally takes it and uses it to beat Thor's ass so hard that Odin admitted he didn't know who was more worthy and had them re-match for it. Predictably, it turned out they were both worthy and Bill got a matching hammer.

So, I guess that's at least one instance where Thor's powers were taken away and given to someone else. I mean, hell, Thor's origin story is literally Odin taking Thor's powers away.

>>54704064
Hardly. I don't care about shutting you down. I am just pointing and laughing at the stupid person.

>>54703981

Dependa on the writer. I think my favorite is a villain who was really into art, had killer croc stealing gems to recreate voice of fore, batman only caught him because batman made croc lose the loot once, so he had to restart the design.

>>54704064
>to the point of violence

I don't see any threats in that reply. You seem to equate being disagreed with to being attacked, kinda like the ESS JAY DUBBAYOOS your type keeps bitching about.

>>54704618

eh, he was probably treating him as a specific example of the general problem. Remember the punch a nazi debacle?

>>54704618
This has been a period of ongoing left-wing political violence, so I understand his concern more generally, even if that was hyperbolic and came out of nowhere.

>>54704103

except they weren't taken away. Someone else was just given a copy.

It's possible I have a slight bias for Bill because he says shit like "if all we have in the universe is what we make, let us make good" while femThor(who, you'll note, we have to give a prefix too because she never got her own identity) got lines like "that's for saying feminism like a four letter word [...] and also the robbery" after the writers had her literally beat up a guy who spoke in terms that only make sense as criticisms of the decision from a writing perspective and not from an in-world perspective.

This is real. This happened.

Oh also in Spiderman + Deadpool, after Deadpool arranged things so she got in a "catfight"(his words) with a litteral demon from norse hell, when she realized he had done so intentionally, she decided to stop fighting with the litteral demon and punish wade. Instead of dealing with the demon, THEN punishing wade for putting innocents in danger and taking advantage of her.

>>54704685

I think he was more criticising the fact that the person's response was essentially to yell WRONGTHINK! and not actually make an argument against him.

>>54704635
I remember, but he saw a threat of violence where there was none. If it's bullshit when the ultra-left does it, it's bullshit when the ultra-right does it.

>>54704764

reread. He doesn't see a threat of violence, he's using hyperbole to try and make a point. You're the one seeing something that isn't there. Calm down.

>>54704810
>using hyperbole to try and make a point

Criticizing an opponent for a hypothetical argument they never made is called strawman fallacy.

>>54704863

pointing out a fallacy someone has made while not making a counter-argument is called the fallacy fallacy. What's your point?

>>54704729
>except they weren't taken away. Someone else was just given a copy.

No, he literally took the hammer away from Thor, causing him to revert back to his mortal form and lose his powers, and then, using that hammer, beat the shit out of him. There is no way you can spin this to where that is not the case.

I'm not saying femThor isn't stupid, but I am saying that hating her won't change Beta Ray Bill's origin story no matter how much you want it to.

>>54704961

oh, you mean in a fight?

that's different. people take the hammer from thor all the time- cap's done it, there's throg, loki's modus operandi for years was to hide the hammer somehow, etc. the problem isn't someone else having the hammer, the problem is someone else taking Thor's identity from him in a meaningful way. I wouldn't have a problem with the weird old ghost-thor possessing a woman, even this same woman. I do have a problem with her taking up the mantle of Thor when thor is an actual person who is forced to call himself odinson as a result, and is given the "we don't like you" hammer of unworthiness.

>>54704064
I fucking feel you, man. Never in my life did I think my beliefs in true equality, fair justice, and freedom label me a conservative. What have we come to?