Stat me /tg/

Max stats in everything except INT and WIS.

>>54680416
>WS 4
>BS 4
>S 4
>T 4
>W 1
>I 4
>A 1
>Ld 8
>Sv -

>>54680416
Dex 30
Str 30
Con 30
Int 14
Wis 17
Cha 20

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>>54680416
>Generic good guy hero
>Still best boy
How did he do this?

>>54680432
His Charisma is high but its not superhumanly high, it would cap at 20 like a normal person.
>>54680543
Because his persona is all an act. He believes in truth and justice and whatever, but he's ultimately a normal guy, as we see when his powers run out. If he really was an indestructible beacon of justice he'd be as boring as you'd expect

>>54680601
Superman can still be the ultimate beacon of justice and still be an entertaining and relatable character if done right.

All Might is superman done right.

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>>54680543
Because the people can appreciate a genuinely kind hero who saves the day in the nick of time. I was expecting him to be a fraud or an asshole when it started, and was pleasantly surprised. You can only read so many cynical works before you crave sincerity and childlike idealism again.

>>54680543
A better Superman adaption than any recent Live Action attempt.

>>54680641
>>54680678
>>54681062
It kind of helps that he's kind of dumb (but not completely Kakarot-retarded) and doesn't exactly understand more underhanded human behavior.

Like when he tried to invite Endeavour for tea after seeing him for the first time in ten years, completely oblivious to WHY he hadn't seen Endeavour in ten years.
Or that he takes his hero class material out of a how-to-teach-children-for-dummies book.
Or more importantly, how he was completely unable to explain to Deku how to use One for All. Deku spend how many weeks or months LITERALLY smashing his body into pulp thanks to ARROMIETO's advice and then Gran Torino trains Deku for two days, and he finally learns how to use One for All without getting turned into mincemeat in a bag.

>>54680678
But BnHA isn't idealistic.
I do like how you wrote sincerity down. I forgot who it was, but I remember seeing some philosophical interview with a writer who wrote about how we need a new way of writing media that's neither idealistic nor cynical, but sincere - idealistic or cynical depending on the context.

Stain would just be an edgy cynical anti-villain if it wasn't for that his message has a kernel of truth.

>>54681554
Yeah, just a dude trying his best with his powers. Not Jesus Christ allegory

>>54680543
because he isnt actually perfect and uses his gift in a purely unselfish way.

Plus he works as a father figure for Deku.

>>54681753
Superman always annoyed me as a "symbol of hope." I don't see what is so hopeful about superman existing, if anything it is downright depressing. You are just a puny worthless human and here is this being infinitely superior to you in every way who has to save your dumb ass on a regular basis because you are stupid and useless. At least superman could be a symbol of hope if attaining his level of power was possible for humans, but it isn't, superman isn't better because he trains really hard or he made a super suit, he's better because he's an alien.

>>54681554
I don't think he's dumb. I think he just assumes people's best intentions until they prove to him otherwise. The guy's pretty smart when it comes to tactics and assessments, like where he caught how Nomu's power was kinetic absorption, not nullification, which means it logically had a limit to it.

>>54682066

That was more Facepalm screwing up than Allmight being smart. Facepalm outright said what the quirk was, assuming it was unbeatable. He was gloating, essentially.

Allmight, however, is a pro hero. He has been fighting villians with powers for years. He knew the difference between two seemingly similar powers was actually huge.

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>>54681884
The thing about Superman is that he is always there. He is not trying to oppress you, he is not an Orwellian Big Brother, but a friendly face who is always there to help whenever he can. It is also comforting to see someone with so much power doesn't needs to become corrupted by it.

Also, the whole thing that Lex Luthor has that 'we can't be like him' is specially bullshit in a place like DC, when scientists are constantly making things like him.

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Stat him, /tg/

>>54681884
Go to bed Lex.

>>54680500
>Con 30
Lol, no.

>>54681884

I was just reading something recently (one of those "transported to another world, but also with OP powers, I think it was one of the popular well known ones since I read so many of them I forget which is which) and a really good swordsman had his spirit broken because he realized humans would never reach the level of the max level demons. No matter how hard he practiced his sword skills he would never be safe from them. "It's not a level humans can reach."

>>54682655
I think that's overlord.

>>54682621
He's near indestructible

>>54682729
When he activates his power, briefly, yes.
Otherwise he has the constitution of someone tested positive for HIV.

>>54682815
That's only because its become time for him to pass his power on, Midoriya has literally just learned (in the anime) how to use the power full time, because thats simply how it's used. OP posted him when he's buff, and in his prime he would have been like that all the time. If you want to split hairs now he's losing his powers he'll need 2 sets of stats, in fact considering he's basically burned up the last of his power he may as well just have his weak stats permanently.

>>54682880
But that's the reason I only questioned his constitution. Even full buff, he's not as indestructible, though he can use abnormal strength and speed. After that wound in his torso, he can't count on having that kind of endurance. I take that his constitution is what dictates how much of his power he can use.

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>>54682621
>Got his organs ripped out and body almost torn in half

C'mon

>>54683021
>Even full buff, he's not as indestructible
No, but he's very clear you have to be in peak physical condition to use One For All, and even then you must learn to control it, otherwise you fuck up your bones like Midoriya did, his hand is now permanently crippled because he couldn't control his power. I'd say being able to withstand bone crushing force implies high constitution

>>54681884
He's a symbol of hope because he shows that it doesn't matter what you can do, it's what you choose to do that's important. It's those choices that make him "super" not the powers.

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>>54683203
>Then went and permanently ruined the face of the guy who did that to him, with his guts still hanging out.
>I mean, holy crap, the other guy doesn't even have a nose or brow anymore

Heroes are dangerous when wounded indeed.

>>54680416
>Generic Flying Brick
Just take a Superman write up of whatever point level you're going for.

>>54683416
>I've never watched even a single episode of MHA
Kay, thanks for informing us.

>>54683464
None of his powers are out of the ordinary for the genre.

Maybe give him a transform with side effects, to represent passing on All Might.

>>54683512
>Maybe give him a transform with side effects, to represent passing on All Might.
Bait.

>>54680416
>My hero academia

Started out strong like many other series, now is stuck with introducing so many pointless side characters and subplots just to cram in more publications.

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>>54683416
>Flying

Hey faggot, ever heard these words?

>>54682621
The fuck? All Might's constitution is godly tier.
>>54682815
>briefly
The fuck are you talking about

>>54683523
I liked MHA, but it doesn't really bring anything new to the genre.

The closest thing is the "everyone has superpowers, but most of them suck" thing.

>>54683551
Wilkommen to shounen

>>54683608
Does it need to?

>>54683752
No. I'm saying the opposite in fact. All Might is a pretty generic character, but still enjoyable.

You don't have to reinvent the wheel to be entertaining.

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Froppy is best girl

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>>54684482
Bitches dont know about my Alien Queen

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>>54684743
>>54684482
You are both wrong. The Best Girl sent me some nudes.

>>54684918
Ever since I saw that picture that gets occasionally reposted in filename threads as "vampire sex tape" or something, this is my fetish.

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>>54684482

>>54684482
What happens if you kiss this frog? She's already a princess

>>54682497
...Is that supposed to be Armsmaster from Worm?

You wouldn't stat *him,* you'd stat his halberd and armor.

>>54680416
Well.. for statpoints I would say they All went into Might

>>54684918
I was sorta expecting a snapchat like captation like "Don't show this to others ;)" and then just a picture of a mirror and a floating cellphone

>>54684482
This is the only answer for me

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>>54680416

stat us!

>>54681554
Honestly I think he kind of expected Deku to just "get it" because it's how he did it, he's honestly a shit teacher when it comes to learning how to use the stupid amount of strength One For All gives its users.

>>54688615
Man, No More No always makes me tear up

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>>54688274

>>54681607
MHA is optimistic. Optimism is the belief that things are good. It is the belief that things can be improved. Look at Shinsou .

>>54683365
MHA heroes are actually scary.

>>54683577
>>Flying
>Hey faggot, ever heard these words?
Not fly, jump good?

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>>54687058
She ascends to the twelfth astral plane, becoming the ultimate lifeform

>>54680641

You've never read any Superman have you?

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>>54690048
Your post suggest that you are not one to talk.

>>54681884
>superman isn't better because he trains really hard

That's most Super-heros. You're missing the point about Superman. He's not better than you beause he's stronger. He's great because he's compassionate, dutiful and responsible.

What if God was real and was just a really nice personable guy? Being nigh omnipotent raises the question of what to do if people become to reliable on him. He struggles with not being able to save everyone and where to draw the line.

>>54690087

>Thinks All Might is a representation of Super-man done right

Only if you boiled Super-man down to a parody of something he never was. They have no point of commonality other than their most generic features.

>>54681884
http://www.shwiggie.com/hitman/hm-34/

Read this comic at the link. It sums up Superman more perfectly than any random internet post ever will.

>>54682655
That's what the swordsman gets for messing with papa bones

>>54682621
>>54682815
Keep in mind that the one person who blew his fucking guts out was the guy who is considered the end all be all of big bad evil guys in BnHa
I don't think its that he would have less con, just that the person who attacked him also had insane stats.

>>54681884
Lex pls

ITT: /tg/ has a better MHA thread than /a/ has had in ages

>>54690116
>He's great because he's compassionate, dutiful and responsible.
Only thanks to his adoptive mom and dad. And even then, Superman's heroism is highly mutable. Kill Lois Lane, or kill the Flash, and Superman goes absolutely evil apeshit.

>>54690750
That's just genre deconstruction because in the 90's that was cool and all the idiots writing now grew up in the 90's so they think it's still cool

>>54680416
>time limit on powers

He's not Superman, he's Ultraman. This is a common japanese superhero trope.

IIRC there's a DC comics hero called Hourman whose similar, but he takes drugs. The drugs last one hour.

>>54690762
Uh no?

There's nothing inherently good about Superman. He's not some kind of embodiment of goodness. He's just an alien guy.

If Superman had crashed in Lex Luthor's backyard, or ended up slamming into Lobo's spaceship, things would have been very different. Hell, Superman smashing into the Amazon island would change things up considerably. You'd end up with a Superman willing to kill.

Superman isn't some cosmic embodiment force, so he can be whatever the writers want depending on who raises him. Because there's really only thing that always stays the same, and that's Soups never betrays his upbringing.

A Lobo-raised Superman will never stop being a cosmic hooligan. A Lex Luthor-raised Superman will never stop trying to control the world/universe. A Diana-raised Superman (oh boy imagine psuedo-/ss/ Oedipus complex, OH BOY MUH DICKUE) would never stop doing whatever must be done to preserve peace.

>>54690800
Goddamn, now I'm imagining Superman as the adoptive son of Darkseid, and I fucking imagine Darkseid as being truly happy, he's so proud of his goddamn son.

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>>54690800
>Superman isn't some cosmic embodiment force
actually...

>>54690811
been done like a million times my dude

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>>54690818

>>54690835
Truly, this is autism incarnated in the flesh.

>hurr durr i can't write a good storyline so i'll just go full meta

>>54690800
>>54690818
Superman is whatever the fuck whatever writer wants him to be, which is a big problem with capeshit in general. This is why The Flash, aka mister "I can percieve events that last for less than an attosecond" was tricked by Deadshot stabbing behind himself. They're barely consistent between writers.

>>54690962
Which is also why European and Japanese capeshit are superior to American capeshit.

Because European and Japanese comics are written by one or two writers over the entire existence of the comic. Hell, many European and Japanese comics are written by the artist themselves.

>>54690962
>>54690975
Being able to see different writers have different takes on a character isn't a weakness, it's a strength.

Believing that what every writer has written should be taken all together is plain old idiocy.

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>>54690988
>Being able to see different writers have different takes on a character isn't a weakness, it's a strength.

>>54690988
>Being able to see different writers have different takes on a character isn't a weakness, it's a strength.
Unless you like a consistent narrative and a consistent character.

>>54691006
Or a storyline that doesn't always jump back into the status quo.

>>54690988
>Being able to see different writers have different takes on a character isn't a weakness, it's a strength.
>>54691004
>le sigh
He makes a valid point, though.

It comes down to what is and is not a valid expectation of:
>>54691006
>a consistent narrative and a consistent character.
or
>>54691019
>a storyline that doesn't always jump back into the status quo.

If you have one book about a character, with one storyline, it's reasonable to expect a consistent narrative and take on the character.
Eventually, writers will change and naturally, so will the book.
Changing the writer and character every month would be unreasonable.
Similarly, if there are several books that all feature the same character, but are all written by different people, unless there are crossovers, there is no reason they need to be 100% consistent with each other.
No, really.

>Believing that what every writer has written should be taken all together is plain old idiocy.
This.

>>54681607

>Stain would just be an edgy cynical anti-villain if it wasn't for that his message has a kernel of truth.

I think what makes Stain work is that it can separate his message from his actions. His message isn't entirely wrong but that doesn't mean that he, personally, is right. Iida's brother for example, seemed to be genuinely as heroic as a hero can be in what we saw but Stain sees darkness everywhere.

>>54690116
>He's great because he's compassionate, dutiful and responsible.
This is the truth of Superman.
To an epic level.
He has an absurd amount of power and would never think to abuse it.

>>54690750
>Only thanks to his adoptive mom and dad.
This is another great truth about Superman.

>And even then, Superman's heroism is highly mutable.
Nah. See.
>>54690762
>That's just genre deconstruction because in the 90's that was cool and all the idiots writing now grew up in the 90's so they think it's still cool

>>54691256
Bullshit. Superman is JUST AN ALIEN. Which means his moral compass is completely dependant on who raises him.

If Superman was something like the Spectre you'd have a point. But he isn't. He's just a being of flesh and blood, that has to go through an elaborate youth stage before his moral compass is fully developed.
And clearly, Kryptonians are just as capable of good and evil like humans.

The real heroes are Jonathan and Martha Kent, raising an alien powerhouse into becoming the embodiment of hope.

>>54691301
>Bullshit. Superman is JUST AN ALIEN. Which means his moral compass is completely dependant on who raises him.
I'm going to use all caps, in order to get you to read the actual words I type.

GO BACK AND ACTUALLY READ THE POST YOU ARE RESPONDING TO YOU STUPID FUCK!

>>54691226
>Believing that what every writer has written should be taken all together is plain old idiocy.
This is why the nearly century old capeshit industry in America has the most utterly convoluted narrative possible, where everything happened at some point but retcons, time resets, alternate timelines, alternate universes et cetera make shit nearly impossible to follow for anyone except the staff themselves and ultra-nerds. Especially when all of the aforementioned start interacting.

To get into how retarded this is, there was a certain comic (I think a Batman comic or something?) that was printed with the expectation that Quebec would vote for its independence later that year or something. That didn't happen, so how did D.C. fix this? There's an alternate universe that's literally the same as the main universe EXCEPT Quebec is independent.

And they wonder why the comicbook industry is dying in America. Old readers lose interest or are chased out by the writers directly insulting their consumers, and new readers have absolutely no fucking idea what's going on even if they pick up a number 1 issue because sooner or later the stories of various superheroes interconnect. Meanwhile, with most manga I know I can start with issue 1 and read all the way to issue quadrillion and get something decent. The closest manga/anime has ever gotten to capeshit levels of fuckery is Dragonball Super, and the general consensus is that it's shit precisely because of that.

>>54691339
But there's no argument there.

Superman is just an alien guy. Just like human guys. He just gets superpowers from yellow suns. Humans get their moral compass from their parents. Therefore Kryptonians get their moral compass from their parents.

Superman is completely dependent on his parents for his moral compass so if Jonathan and Martha Kent had been fucking Manhunters instead of humans, Superman would have been very different.

>>54691387
>The closest manga/anime has ever gotten to capeshit levels of fuckery is Dragonball Super, and the general consensus is that it's shit precisely because of that.
Dragonball Super is fucking great. The only people that complain about it are fucking retarded Mexicans mad that Super retcons GT out of existence.

>>54691426
>mad that Super retcons GT out of existence
It retcons a lot of other shit as well like the Potara earrings, Gohan's age (how is he a scholar if this is 6 month's after the Buu saga and he's in his 1st/2nd year of high school? Is he a teenage father, or is this after End of Z? But it's not because we know Uub is still a babby), and Goku's entire character. Even when writing Z Toriyama was horribly inconsistent and needed strict editorial mandate to keep himself on track (the Buu saga is all over the place because that's when he wrote under his third and most lenient editor, I'm using the Kanzenshuu as my source). Now he's gone full George Lucas, doesn't even really write Super himself anymore and only gives ideas that nobody criticizes or doublechecks.

>>54691478
>potara earrings
It's not really a retcon if it fixes a previous plothole.

And literally WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT GOHAN'S AGE? WHOOOOO?

>>54680416
Considering how it's been stablished that he's at a really advanced stay of decay since the start of the series from his wounds and it only went further after giving Midoriya One For All, my question is, how fucking strong and fast was he at his prime?

At the fight against the league of villains he was basically faster than the eye of superpowered people could follow and strong enough to send a super-resistant enemy flying through the roof and beyond the horizon.

>>54689352

That's why lots of pro heroes are worried about Bakugo. He has a very powerful Quirk, and lots of anti-heroic personality traits. If he were to use his powers for evil, he'd be one of the most powerful villains alive, even at his young age.

>>54691555
He say when he punches out that elastic dude after like 10 minutes of fighting, that in his prime, it'd have only taken him 3 punches.

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>>54680416
Stat me in 5e/dark heresy

I wanna play this guy so bad

>>54691478
>and Goku's entire character.
Which is fixed in the manga.

Unless you're one of those retards that thinks Goku is some kind of Asian superman. He isn't. He's just a guy who fucking loves to fight, but dislikes to see the weak suffer.

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>>54684743
Not gonna lie, I ship Froppy and Pinky

>>54684918
BLUE BOARD, MAN! BLUE BOARD!


Also, reminder that superman and wonder woman once fucked and killed a large portion of earth's population in the process.

>>54691582

Bondrewd's character design is 100% the only reason I am watching MiA.

If the character isn't shit, I'm making that costume.

>>54681884
Superman is a symbol of hope because as much power as he has, he is still morally Human and he proves Humans have just a great capacity for good as we can ever imagine.

he proves absolute power does not corrupt absolutely

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>>54692240
>absolute power does not corrupt absolutely

>>54692109
>That picture
Reminds me of a manga where a prostitute's life literally depended on her ability to tie cherry stems in her mouth.

Oh, what's that? You don't believe me?
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Mei-no-Maiden/Vol-001-Ch-003--Cherry-and-Cherry--Part-001-?id=375860

>>54692267
Man manga artists get really fucking bored.

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>>54692267
I'm not sure what to make of this, but I think I need to read more to figure it out...

>>54691412
>But there's no argument there.
>no argument
EXACTLY, you dipshit.

>Superman is completely dependent on his parents for his moral compass
>>54691301
>his moral compass is completely dependant on who raises him.
Compare those statements to this one, called "bullshit": >>54691256
>>[Superman is great because he's compassionate, dutiful and responsible and that is] Only thanks to his adoptive mom and dad.
>This is another great truth about Superman.
See any similarities?

Fucking dumbass.
That post was the same the as the exchange:
>Alan Rickman played Professor Snape.
>Bullshit. Severus Snape was played by Alan Rickman.

>>54680416
+ultra

>>54692267
>Black General San has been updated.
ooohhhhh yes.
Gigi-chan best girl, dem child-bearing hips.

>>54684482
I WANNA GET SLOPPY WITH FROPPY

>>54690144
The biggest difference between All Might and Superman is that Supes was born powerful. All Might, like Deku, knows what it's like to feel powerless.

>>54692687

And to feel fear.

Superman doesnt have to do anything special as Superman to inspire hope. Almost nothing can hurt him, and most of the time, even against supervillians, he is pulling his punches. Being supes is easy.

Allmight is afraid. The guy that fucked him up is still out there, his powers are diminished, and every villian is gunning for him. But he has to keep being the Symbol of Peace, because Allmights reputation is what keeps a lot of villians in hiding. If Allmight falls, its going to result in chaos.
So he buys what time he can with charades, while grooming Deku to take his place.

>>54690975
Because they don't feel the need to interject politics into it.

BNHA is great because its about people, about universal things. Shoto has a shitty dad and a broken family. Deku is a rise from nothing to somebody learning to control their powers. Bakugo is dealing with the fact that he isn't the best anymore.

Deku, in particular, seems to have shades of Spider-Man in it; a kid blessed with immense power and, therefore, great responsibility.

If BNHA was made by Marvel or DC, Deku being quirkless would've been made into a constant parallel to race or homosexuality, and would've been constantly brought back up after gaining One for All.

Instead, because the creator isn't interjecting politics but making the story about the humanity of the character, the fact that Deku was quirkless informs his personality in more subtle ways and isn't brought up constantly and isn't an allegory for anything.

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>>54692195
You could just read the manga? Metalest Dad is pretty dope, though.

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>>54692839
>If BNHA was made by Marvel or DC, Deku being quirkless would've been made into a constant parallel to race or homosexuality, and would've been constantly brought back up after gaining One for All.
That's incredibly fucking retarded but you're right

>>54692839

It helps that no one thinks of Deku as being quirkless. Everyone just assumes that Deku always had his power, he just never used it because he liked his bones.

Very few people know the truth.

>>54692195
It's quite possibly the best manga I've ever read my man.

All the white whistles are god tier in design and style. Plus, nana, riko and the are the cutest

>>54692839
so like X men.

>>54693218
Yup. We'd be getting subplots and stories about shit like "quirkless people are discriminated against" and people with signs protesting quirkless people.

>>54692823
>And to feel fear
Superman knows fear:


What gets me about Superman is what I see when I put myself in his position:
Imagine living in a world where everything is made of tissue paper.
Imagine that every structure, every object, everything you ever touch could crumble and tear at your touch.
Imagine that everyone, every stranger on the street, every coworker, every friend, every loved one, and every pet you’ve ever seen you could kill effortlessly.
You could kill them all accidentally.
You could kill them with the slightest touch.
You could kill them with a glance.
You could kill them all if you for one moment lost the slightest bit of control.
Imagine that you care.
So you control.
Even when you “fight” enemies that are “strong” you have to control yourself.
Every moment of every day, you restrain, restrict, and control yourself.
Never for one second can you give in to emotion, passion, or impulse.
Never for one moment can you truly relax and let go.
This is your life.
This is power.

>>54691572
Favorite bit about that is that it's so obvious that the league of villains tries to pull a sasuke on him. Of course while he's tied up they give him the dumb "join us and you'll be strong and rule or whatever" and Bakugou responds "how about you untie me so I can beat your skulls in you abject fuckheads."

>>54680416
What is his natural quirk? From before he got OFA.

>>54693924
He was quirkless.

Which system would you use for a BnHA game?

>>54693975
Oh, I didn't recall that.

>>54692823
I love those comics and episodes of shows where Superman loses his powers and still does the right thing. How do you respond to that?

>>54694020
From his age, he was from the second gen, meaning quirckless people were more common than people with quirks

>>54694020
I'd use Anima or Savage Worlds, personally. Anima because there's a Bloodline Advantage that lets you grab certain monster powers, and specific quirks like OFA could easily be fluffed as Ki Powers(with the HP sacrifice disadvantage thrown in, if it's Deku). And Savage Worlds because it's pretty flexible as well.

And I think All Might told Deku about his initial quirklessness either right before sending him to Gran Torino, or right after the city fight, IIRC.

>>54694020

While the most obvious answer is Mutants and Masterminds, if I were to use it, I'd specifically go for 2E rather than 3E; while 2E had certain powers be absolutely fucking busted, 3E still has the problem of players needing to take care with certain abilities to not break the system over its knee. On top of that, 2E has more freedom of build since it doesn't force you to play seesaw with Damage vs Accuracy, Evasion vs Toughness, etc. If someone wants to make an actually accurate glass cannon, I see no problem with it.

Alternatively, I might actually consider using GURPS, if only for the fact that Hero Academia is low enough in power scale outside of outliers like All-Might and One For All that you might be able to run something in the point-ranges that GURPS doesn't break apart at. Hell, people say Bakugou has a very strong quirk, and all he actually has is the ability to create explosions out of his palms. He can't even make them at range/make them come out of any other part of his body. That level of specifity/scale of quirk makes GURPS a possible option if the whole group is autistic enough to be able to run GURPS combat at its proper speed (you should finish your turn in less than a goddamn minute)

AMP is a possibility that sits in a very good place between simplicity and having options, but is hampered by mechanics that are tied to its setting+having a relatively small list of already existing powers.

>>54693855
God that was so cringe, Bakugo is such a shitty lame character and yet for some reason he's Japan's indisputed favorite

>>54694653
You misunderstand anon, I like bakugou

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>>54694653
I've known plenty of people like Bakugo, so while I find him kind of annoying I don't knock his character because people like that actually exist.

In fact I'm quite sure most of them would totally have taken the Evil League of Evil's offer, so...

>>54694932
Then you and I can't be friends

>>54695385
Doesn't make him any less of a ragetard marysue

>>54692839
That's another thing. Why'd people put modern politics everywhere? Can't we just have fun?

>>54696260
>mary sue
Don't use words you don't understand.

>>54693218
I actually liked X-Men. Mostly because marvel did a better job of making it's characters human. Unlike DC's Superman or Batman who come off more as cardboard cut outs.

Not that marvel is leaps and bounds better.

>>54683799
Thats what i love about it. The entire show is literally just the wheel in its base form. We've been subverting the fenre for so many decades that now when someone plays it straight it feel like a breath of fresh air.

>>54690748
/tg/, you dont even need the other boards anymore.

>>54697210
Fuck. That's is pretty much a perfect explaination of who I like it. I couldn't have said it better myself.

It's refreshing in a strange way.

>>54690748
This is /tg/. You'll find the same for other topics too.

>>54696852
Funny enough, I saw eye-to-eye more with Superman than Batman. At least Clark Kent is the everyman & can have a regular daily life. Bruce Wayne is a playboy trillionaire in charge of an almost comically large corporation.

>>54690811
They made that Elseworld

>>54690856
Morrison isn't autistic, he's an insane wizard that used to be a hardcore junkie until his arcane mastery allowed him to transcend the need for such petty, material things.

>>54696260
He's not a mary sue but he's a bully, egotist and an edgelord. The fact that, from what I can tell, he hasn't suffered any direct and immediate karma for his treatment of Deku has turned me off the character entirely.

In one arc of Superman & Batman back in the day, a magic fucking Rock transfers Superman's powers to Batman, and he fucking loses it. Just goes on a perpetual vigilante punching spree at all times, following night around the world to keep punching people at night 24/7, punches a hole in Bane's chest because he's the goddamn Superbatman, nearly kills Nightwing when Dick confronts him about being a crazy asshole, andcthen eventuslly gets mugged and beaten the fuck down by the entire JL like a rabid dog.

>>54697640
There are like 6 reasons this doesn't make sense, and I hate that you informed me of it's existence.

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>Me and DM make a Modern Fantasy Setting [that is to say, a generic fantasy setting that is advanced to the modern day techwise while retaining large numbers of magical or superpowered individuals].
>Think about how the advanced technology and culture would effect heroic individuals, such as athletes and the military.
>Decide on a whim that capeshit exists, with entire organizations of superheroes who, while not remotely as powerful as comic book heroes [street level+] dress up in spandex and fight crime.
>Not even a focus point of the setting just "Hey, superheroes exist"

Doesn't entirely tie into the discussion, I just thought you guys would find it interesting.

>>54697837
It was easily the dumbest S&B arc I can remember.
Guilty pleasure arc was the Justice Titans arc where Supes and Batman get pulled into a mashup universe by Felix Faust where the JL and the TT members are all combined (Double Flash takes the cake) and then a bunch of S&B villains are all mashed up strangely too (Brainicat, Doomstroke, etc.)
The Raven-Zatanna hybrid is sealed away, having "died" because their magic would allow them to break the illusory universe, and when S&B escape the first level of false existence, they get split up.
Bruce goes to an idyllic world where he's married to Zatanna, and there is no fighting, no super villainy, and everything's great, and he has to learn to let it go because it isn't real and shit.
Clark just gets chained up in Raven's Rape Dimension and has to convince her that she isn't a Satanic Space Goddess and that she shouldn't keep him locked up in her Rape Dimension for all time. Unfortunately, he prevails upon her better nature, and she releases him.

>>54697362
They're both pretty two dimensional. The Lego Batman legit had more character development than we ever see in the comic books.

>>54698012
If it follows dnd style random farmer's son becomes legendary hero thing, than it makes sense to carry that forward with street level supers everywhere.

>>54698566
That is exactly how it works actually. About 1/10,000 people are D&D style 'heroes', usually through skill and training [meaning hypothetically even more people could gain this power by studying magic or training their muscles or one of the numerous other ways to develop supernatural power] and as a result there's plenty of them in positions of academia, construction, the military, athletics [for instance the entire wrestling circuit is mostly superpowered individuals], and so on.

And of course there is a crap ton of street level supers, the only difference between them and the knights of yore [still the most popular aesthetic for modern day 'heroes', but with modern military gear or clothing, as well as capes gaining steam] is the costume.

>>54690750
>Only thanks to his adoptive mom and dad.
So you admit it's the things than make him human, that make him Clark Kent, that makes Superman such a great hero.

>>54693587
And this is why Superman, in his heart of hearts, is the slightest relieved by the existence of beings like Darkseid, Zod, the Anti-Monitor, and Lobo. Because just once, he doesn't have to worry about whoever he's fighting.

>>54698887
Pretty sure he said as much when fighting Brainiac/Darkseid in the final episode of Justice League Unlimited.

>>54690818
>>54690835
>>54690856
>>54697484
Do I have to storytime superman beyond for these plebs or is this thread dead already

>>54694653
Bakugo is an amazing character. Rolling the hyperaggressive jock and the know-it-all nerd in one character was a brilliant move.

>>54700081
yo fucker just do it!

>>54701577
Maybe another time. That would take 2 whole hours without a 4chan pass

>>54694171

It's after he loses to Todoroki in the Sports Festival arc, after being healed by Recovery Girl. Deku is bummed about losing, and he wonders if All Might made the right choice in choosing him as a successor.

>>54693855
I love to hate Bakugou. He's so much more enjoyable being an apparent walking contradiction, too stubborn to turn.

>>54680543
He's able to both be an average joe & a super hero played straight.

>>54700081
Some one needs to fucking story time Strange Visitor so everyone can see what Superman is all about.

>>54693587
This always made me wonder 2 things.

1) Why isn't he super scrawny? Muscles only grow by being pushed toward their limits, after all. And following this...

2) Does green kryptonite just remove his ability to use powers? Is he just atrophied from never not using his powers? Would it make sense for him to get a kryptonite necklace and go on a rehab program for like 6 months or something to actually strengthen himself up?

This is coming from someone who hasn't read any superman.

>>54702353
It depends on the continuity but green kryptonite is normally extremely painful to Superman. It cuts off access to his powers by fucking with his cells either cannibalize or just explode with excess energy. We aren't given a good explanation of what it does just that it fucks with his biology really badly.

>>54680455
heeeeey I see what you did there

>>54702429
Red Kryptonite kills him, right? I assume it's the same deal, but even worse...

>>54702486
Other Kryptonite colors are basically writers jerking off onto a page and are often ignored but I think red makes him berserker rage and pink makes him gay.

>>54683551
That sounds dangerously like you're talking shit about Kirishima, anon.

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Superman?
Yeah, he's the worst

>>54690835
christ how many unnecessarily obtuse words do you need to cram together to say "he's stronger than your dude and always wins and totally beats goku!!!1"

>>54692937
Which manga?

>>54702353
>1) Why isn't he super scrawny?
I believe his muscles are being artificially fortified by the yellow sun.
Also, he does strain lifting mountains and whatnot.
But it is a valid question and criticism.

>2) Does green kryptonite just remove his ability to use powers?
No, but light from a red sun does.
Green kryptonite is literally radiation poisoning, which weakens anyone.

>Is he just atrophied from never not using his powers?
Without his powers, he's just a normal guy with normal strength.

>Would it make sense for him to get a kryptonite necklace and go on a rehab program for like 6 months or something to actually strengthen himself up?
It would be like an average guy eating radium and wearing a plutonium and uranium necklace, to build muscles.

>>54697508
I'd say that's kinda missing the point. His karma is that Deku holds no grudge and never did, but he isn't taking Bakugo's shit anymore. His karma is that despite being super powerful as well as brilliant, Bakugo isn't the biggest dick on the block anymore and he isn't sure how to handle it. It's that for all his talent he can't prove himself the best, all the while Deku keeps growing and getting better.

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>>54702537
>Pink makes him gay

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>>54702486
>>54702537
Red hits him with a random effect each time. And pink is hilarious and I love it

>>54702602
>DBZfag getting triggered over nothing

>>54694020
>>54693975
IIRC, in the manga Deku's quirk is he has a weird toe.

>>54702707
>>DBZfag getting triggered over nothing
I think DBZ (and DBS') pointless escalation and constant on-upmanship with no weight or real stakes behind it is slightly more retarded, actually.

>>54702717
No, supers mutated out a portion of their small toe because it was deemed unessential to human function. It is the easiest way to see if you are truly quirkless.

>>54702771
Ah, ok, couldn't remember it exactly.

>>54702486
Off the top of my head, I can tell you red kryptonite makes him morally apathetic, kinda sociopathic. Like the good scene in Superman III.
Not necessarily evil or enraged, but he has no reason not be.

>>54702537
>Other Kryptonite colors are basically writers jerking off onto a page and are often ignored
This is kinda of accurate.
It got so bad back in the day that they eventually had someone, maybe a reformed Lex Luthor, send energy all over earth that rendered all the kryptonite inert.
When a two bit crook tried to fend Superman off with a small chunk, Superman ate it while the crook shat himself.

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>>54702707
>Red hits him with a random effect each time.
Huh, I guess I've just coincidentally seen it used consistently to tell stories of Super becoming uncaring.

>>54680678
>>54681607
A setting may yet be a crappy or imperfect place but that doens't mean someone can't try to be the ideal hero, which is what All Might strove to be.

>>54696382
>That's another thing. Why'd people put modern politics everywhere? Can't we just have fun?
Because (((they))) have a plan.

>>54696382
At least according to somebody I know trying to break into fiction, publishers outright want you to make things into political commentary, because it's the "in thing." Even stuff that's just plain made for fun gets viewed under the lens of a political statement regardless of intent.

It's a vicious cycle of stuff being made about modern politics, which makes people think about modern politics, which encourages stuff about modern politics, and so on so forth.

>>54684743
This. Ashido is love. Ashido is life.

>>54696260
>marysue
Mary Sues are almost always universally liked. Not the case here, in fact most people dislike him because he's an abrasive asshole with a superiority complex.

>>54692240
Because he is a comic book character adn can thus be a 2d archetype.

>>54704239
You really don't understand much about idealistic and cynical stories, do you? Read up on some deeper story analysing mate.

>>54697508
I dunno man. Being stuck in Jeanist's agency is a pretty terrible punishment. Particularly since Jeanist would be a pretty amazing mentor if he wasn't so fucking obsessed with clothes.

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>>54702657
Made In Abyss

Fair warning, shit's pretty gruesome in some parts. Probably wouldn't want to read it in public.

>>54680455
>I
You wot?

>>54690988
>Being able to see different writers have different takes on a character isn't a weakness, it's a strength.
>Completely lack of coherence is a strength
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>54690748
It doesn't take much to be better than /a/. The entire board is basically just "elf slave wat do" threads for however many series.

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