EDH/Commander General /edhg/

>>54677044
>>What's a past mechanic you'd like to see make a resurgence?

blue hate

Grandeur

>>54677082
>1U, Jace fucking dies.

>>54677044
>What's a past mechanic you'd like to see make a resurgence?
Enemy color hate would be tight, but that'll never happen again

>>54677044
>Thread Question:
Phasing.

>>54677044
Splice, but change it to "Splice onto [insert card type here]". Splice onto Arcane is too narrow and could at least be costed better.

>>54677162
>strong creature tutoring
thats true thou
>green has a lot of the strongest creatures
Also true

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Hey /edhg/, post your favorite hyperefficient cards!

>>54677185
i agreed with green having good creature tutoring, but most of green's strongest creatures are basically just mana dorks. the best ramp in edh is still basically just various fast mana rocks

>>54677091
Would be neat on a plague rats type card.

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>>54677202

>>54677204
>most of green's strongest creatures are basically just mana dorks
Green fatties are the best fatties, though. Stuff like Craterhoof, a lot of the viable Hydras, Protean Hulk.

Retrace

>>54677091
>EDH
>Grandeur

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Anyone playing this guy? What are some neat cards in him?

I finally bought a FoW for Sakashima.

It's unbelievable how good a deck can be by just a one card upgrade, it's insane.

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>>54677293
The fattest fatties

SPOILERS WHEN

>>54677480
Next week at the earliest if we don't get another leak before.

>>54677336
never played because im not sure on how to finish it. but it might give you a general idea
https://deckstats.net/deck-13728717-9b626b15e11162ecfabe62a35d612215.html

>>54677204
>strongest creatures in EDH format
Eternal Witness
Snek Excavator
Reclamation Sage
Acidic Slime
Terastodon
Oracle of Mul Daya
Yisan
Selvala
Titania
Azusa
I was going to say Seton, but he just makes your dudes mana dorks

>>54677538
You're forgetting craterhoof behemoth and avenger of zendikar.

>>54677555
Craterhoof was already mentioned and AoZ is a trap

>>54677538
Don't forget Hoof Daddy. He wins games.

>>54677538
>>54677555
what's the general thought on Vigor? I love that card.

>>54677581
Avenger is easily abusable and the best way to spam tokens. It's hardly a trap.

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>>54677581
>aoz a trap

I'm liking this card a lot more now

>>54677538
B R A W N

>>54677538
Priest of Titania, the best dork.

>>54677598
Vigor is really good as either a combo piece or just support in an aggressive deck.

>>54677336
Conjurer's Closet, Phyrexian Reclamation, Nim's Deathmantle, Mimic Vat, Panharmonicon, Sheoldred, any mana doubler, Sadistic Sacrament, Culling the Weak, Oversold Cemetery, Erratic Portal, any cheap reanimation

>>54677735
Priest of Titania is a gateway drug to Elf tribal.

>>54677538
Seton is fucking insane. I've dropped an entwined TnN on turn 3 before with him

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>>54677336
spicy tech

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>>54677824
>yfw they forgot the tap symbol

>>54677044
Devotion

>>54677924
>Mono Artifact

>>54677924
With super old artifacts, calling it a "mono artifact" meant it had to be tapped to be used. No clue why they thought it made sense, but that's what it is

>>54677824
That wording is almost as fucky as Oubliette.

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>>54677781
That was one lucky hand with Sol Ring and Mana Crypt, Anon. And you had to draw land. Then yes, I can see that scenario happening.

Sadly a T3 Avenger + Craterhoof only kills one person at best.

T3 Terastadon + Primus on the other hand..

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>>54677674
>Plant based traps

>>54678188
Two Forests, a Cradle, Two 1 drop elf dorks and Priest. 2+3+2+3.

>>54678209
muh dik

>>54677924
I don't think either tap symbol even existed back then. Wasn't used until Revised

>>54678188
I run neither of those artifacts in my Seton deck

>>54677082
Oh hello Blue Hater, how's your WBRG deck going?

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>>54677044
Banding did nothing wrong. Bring back Banding!

>>54678188
>Terastadon + Primus
What's the combo here? I'm missing something.

>>54678420
It's turn three and your opponents have no manabase.

>>54678408
Tana Tymna is legit. Sow and Weave.

>>54678458
So simple, yet so brutal

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>>54678264
That's just Cradle being fair card. Let's lump that together in the "lucky hand" categorie.

>>54678389
Neither do I, because despite Ring being good, it actually fits akwardly in the curve

And pic related

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>>54678471
You haven't seen nothing yet.

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Didn't realize old thread was dead. What shenanigans can this do?

>>54678488
>and enchantments
rip my good stuff. but then again, im gw not mono green

>>54678537
Ramp and Food Chain. Prossh is honestly pretty boring. Despite being a decent color combo, Jund isn't very fun in EDH because most of its generals are bland.

>>54678499
>>54678488
I need more huge green bombs like these. My Seton deck usually wins via infinite trample off of the "dork tapping for more than 3/Umbral Mantle/Kamahl" combo, and I think I'd rather use it to just crap out fucking massive fatties like that one, Khalni Hydra and Giant Adephage. I've started to embrace my inner Timmy when building more green

>>54678537
Any thing you can imagine with tokens and mana. Sadly, you are not required to do that and can just attack for the win

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>>54678537
>>54678558
decent jund commander WHEN

>>54678568
Worldspine
Vorinclex
Mossbridge Troll
Gigantomancer can be a funny "gotcha" if no one blocks your 1/1 Elves

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>>54678558
Okay what about this guy? I'm looking for something to build after I'm done with Marath.

>>54678636
Are you just looking at the C13 face commanders? They're all busted and boring

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>>54678612
Are you implying Prossh isn't decent? He is boring but definitely powerful.

Try the upcoming Wasitora or Xira Airen for goodstuff or Vaevectis Asmadi for Jund Ramp/Voltron. Vaevectis firebreaths for every Jund color so all the green ramp and Urborg + Cabal Coffers can all feed him.

>>54678636
Oloro will rarely ever leave the command zone and most decks for him tend to be pillowfort that slowly lead up to an Aetherflux or some combo win. When he does leave the command zone, he'll still just be there passively giving value. Having Oloro as your commander basically means anything interesting you want to do will have to start and end in the 99.

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>>54678558
I'm quite partial to these beautiful bastards. There's a lot of stupid shenanigans you can get up to with them. Though they're not the best in 1v1.

I want a jund land commander to mix a lot of land matters commanders together.

>>54678681
They're fucking rad. My friend runs these fine gents and can make everyone very sad

>>54678663
Prossh is too boring we need a jund reanimator legend

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>>54678724
Hello

>>54678636
great commander for when you dont want friends

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>>54678742
>return card to hand
>reanimating

what do you guys think about pic related? Any spicy tech? Should I just play Marath instead?

>>54678878
I know, but it's as close as we have right now for Jund. I don't see Wizards printing a Reanimate on a stick anytime soon, quite frankly

>>54678907
maybe

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>>54678907
FUCK

>>54678924
>>54678907
If you wanna do Naya go Marath or Mayael the Anima imo

Why's Derevi, Empyrial Tactician the top Bant commander on EDHrec?

>>54678975
Because Derevi is broken and can be built several different ways.

>>54678975
Cheats commander tax and is good for stax strategies.

>>54678724
>give Karmic Guide to even more colors
No thanks. Jund already has their own flavors of reanimation strategies.

>>54678612
Tana + Vial forbidden lesbian love.

>>54679052
>give Karmic Guide to even more colors
Is this b8? You know reanimation has always been one of black's main mechanics right? And green and red both have their own style of graveyard interaction.

>>54679146
Now that you mention it Jund would make for a crazy reanimator strategy. Black brings back creatures, Green fetches land and non-creature perms from the yard, red reuses instants and sorceries, black/green loves the recylce, red/black sacks your stuff to break their stuff, and green/red continues to just exist.

>>54677044
Gravestorm and fateseal

>>54679019
>and is good for stax strategies.

Like what? I'm kind of interested in him but don't know what he's good with.

>>54678975
Have you ever used Derevi to tap down your own Static Orb before your turn? It feels viscerally wrong.

>>54677336
this dude at my lgs plays him and its always hilarious.
>panharmonicon
>blade of selves
>takes something like 10 cards

>>54679295
Toss down a Static Orb, Winter Orb, or Stasis, and a bunch of unlockable little creatures. The creatures will untap your lands and keep you in the mana while your opponents flounder.

>>54679295
Winter Orb and Static Orb become a lot better when you have a commander that can tap/untap them.

Derevi is also the best Bant token commander if stax isn't the way you want to go.

>>54678188
also Ivy Lane Denizen, sac outlet (greater good) and Primus

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how do build this guy?

>>54679470
killspells.dek
Murder everything and fold to enchantments.

>>54678916
Yeah well i at least hope we get a jund commander that gets stronger the larger your graveyard gets

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>yfw you just want to turn big butts sideways

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mayael-the-stompy-edh/

>>54679564
Anybody building Grim;lock, Dinobot Leader?

>>54679491
Yep, as I expected. Any specific card choices for the non removal cards?

>>54679581
its not a legal card in edh

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>>54679146
>implying it is any more Jund than it is white
Reanimation is white/black since Alpha baby and cip abilities to reanimate is specifically white while black is able to steal from opponents' graveyards. Jund could have a reanimating legend, of course, but I agree that wotc shouldn't make another Karmic Guide effect. A more expensive Chainer with red and green would be fine.

>>54679622
Only a handful of children cares.

>>54679597
Vampiric Tutor and Entomb are the obvious ones.
Some less obvious ones: Cremate, Moonlight Bargin, Skeletal Scrying, Imp's Mischeif, and Makeshift Mannequin.

>>54679581
>having a fucking toy on the table wasting space

I hope you're not an autist supreme and it's a legends class figure and not something like Metroplex

>>54677044
Soulshift with other tribes.

>>54678155
Ones you could use repeatedly in a turn were "Poly Artifacts"

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>>54679581
>>54679622
>>54679653

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>>54679491
>fold to enchantments

>start getting into EDH
>aw yeah Geth will be so much fun
>friends playing Augustin and 5c superfriends
>looks like someone just dropped a box of enchantments on the table
>y-yeah so much fun

>>54677674
What anime is this girl (male) from?

>>54678467
Huh, I wasn't expecting an legit response.

>>54679851
Gatchaman Crowds

>>54679653
I bet you nigger play with proxys too.

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Interested in this color combination. Is she any good?

>>54680037
>U/G/x
yes

>>54680037
U/G/x the format, sultai is one of the most powerful combinations, you probablu want to play mimeoplasm or atraxa tho

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Alright /edhg/, two questions for you.

First, I just remembered I had this fine lad lying around and kinda wanna build him. In addition to the usual stuff you'll see with Memnarch, something in me wants to run some kinda artifact creature token pumping factory and do jank shit with that. Anybody else done this? Or am I just better off running counters and general thievery?

Secondly, what's everyone's experience here with MTGO? Is it good? Is it bad? Kinda just mediocre? Is EDH even supported on it?

Looking to do mono-U combo/control. Who should I use as my general between: Talrand, Baral, or Azami? The deck will be likely played in everything from 1v1 to 5 player games.

>>54680097
Oh, and I was also considering >>54680089

>>54679834
You should have big mana and tutors, just drop an O-Stone/Perioius Vault/Eugene to wipe that shit out.

>>54680097
Baral is absolutely disgusting in 1v1. The entire deck is counters and LabMan. Azami could fare better in bigger games, but be wary that you will draw salt and people will gun for you super hard.

>>54680037
She's pretty decent. Plus you can combo out if you use Mesmeric Orb and something with infinite untaps like Basalt Monolith.

>>54679555
Kresh is kind of similar, I guess

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>>54678916
> I don't see Wizards printing a Reanimate on a stick anytime soon, quite frankly

>>54680089
MTGO is kinda meh, because its an instant start e no shuffling cards drawing a hand etc etc most people just quit if hey dont get a magical christmas land hand because its just 2 clicks and they are in another game, they wont spend an hour playing a game when they can just restart the game till they combo off turn 4

>>54680208
>Plus you can combo out if you use Mesmeric Orb and something with infinite untaps like Basalt Monolith.

How does that work?

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>>54678537
Alpha strikes are fun.

Prossh+Primal+Blade of the Bloodchief. Assuming you are casting Prossh for the first time that will give you 12 kobold tokens. Sacking them to Prosh with give him 24 +1/+1 counters, and +12/+0 under the end of turn. Letting him do 43 points of damage in one strike.

On a related note I'd love these as sleeves for that deck.

>>54680287
Basalt Monolith taps for 3, spend that 3 to untap Basalt Monolith. This causes Mesmeric Orb to trigger, milling you for one. You can repeat this as many times as you want to set up a grave combo or generate a lot of tokens with Sidisi. Add in an Eldrazi titan or something that puts your grave back in your library and you can repeat this infinitely.

>like land creatures
>really want to build noyan dar
>it's only good as counterspells.dec

>>54680147
Do you know anything about Talrand? I assume he amounts to "spam spells and swing with drake," but I'd like to know if there's any tricky stuff to do with him. Would you say Talrand over Baral or vice versa? I'd imagine regardless of who I choose, the other could go in the 99.

>>54680346
Manland commander when?

>>54680346
The problem with doing land creature decks in EDH is that you're much more likely to get completely blown out.

>>54680385
Return to Return to Zendikar

>>54680380
Coat of Arms makes his Drakes stupidly huge, I know that much

>>54680380
Baral in 1v1 is pretty much emrakul, every polymorph spell and the rest counters/draw, you cant have any other creatures in the deck or your poly will likely whiff

>>54680385
His name is Exploding Space Baby.

>>54680566
I don't plan to go purely 1v1 as most of my gamesv will likely be at least 3 player, and only one creature in the deck seems a little too bland for me.

>>54680566
Actually as of 2 weeks ago emmy and poly are both now banned, well thats a relief

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I want to build a great Tasigur deck, but 1) I'm brand new to commander, so I'm garbage at making decks and 2) I don't have a lot of money to spend. What is the best thing to do with Tasigur, and what are some amazing cards for him (that hopefully don't cost an arm and a leg)

>>54680380
Blue Anthem cards. There is an enchantment that gives +1/+1 to your flying creatures. Same thing with the Grand Architect. You can also use your Drakes to cast artifacts.

Blue cantrips, flashback and rebound spells. Sphinx Bone Wand. Jace's Sanctum. Sphinx of the final word. Isocron scepter. Baraal Chief of Compliance.

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>>54680566
>Baral in 1v1
>1v1

>>54680605
In duel commander, which no one here cares about.

>>54680690
I like the sound of this the more I think about it.

>>54680097
Maybe consider Padeem, he gives all your artifacts hexproof and a foil one is like 2 bucks

>>54680704
The dude specifcally asked for 1v1 and multiplayer, how do I potato

>>54677044
>What's a past mechanic you'd like to see make a resurgence?
storm
it fits well into my competitive grixis deck

>>54680788
He asked about a deck that would be used in both 1v1 and multiplayer, which implies he'd at least be using the multiplayer banlist. Duel Commander is its own format with its own banlist.

>>54680647
Tasigur's power comes from politics. Because you choose someone to choose one of your cards, you can bargain with other players to be Anti-Archenemy Control. Get efficient removal like Arcane Denial, Beast Within, Reality Shift, and Hero's Downfall, wait for someone to make a play, point at one of the remaining players, and ask for your answer back.

>>54680796
>storm
No thanks. I'd rather not sit around while you masturbate for 20 minutes before winning.

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Why banned?

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Was almost done building my Kynaios and Tiro deck when I realized it was basically Bant goodstuff with a shitload of mine and exploration effects.
What's some good red tech that isn't just another board wipe, land destruction, or lolrandumb enchantment?

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>>54680880
>needing more than 1 hand to hold your combo
>not masturbating under the table between turns anyway

>>54680880
Storm has the chance of flopping occasionally too, which makes it even more disappointing than real combos since it's "take 20 minutes do nothing"

>>54680941
>EtB land destruction that also tutors lands
Please don't ask when Prime Time is coming off the list either.

>>54680941
Same reason why Sundering Titan is. Blowing up lands = bad feels

>>54680880
>I'd rather not sit around while you masturbate for 20 minutes before winning.
id play some interaction then m8

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Most goofy commanders?

>>54680999
It only grabs forests.
Is acidic slime with a nature's lore tacked on for seven fucking mana really ban worthy?

>>54680941
>ramp into primordial
>destroy a land of each opponent
>get a bunch of land
>flicker, flicker, flicker
>yeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaawwwww

>>54681056
People blink it and wipe out everyone elses lands. Deadeye Navigator etc

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>>54681042
>Most goofy commanders?
>tfw the only way you win is through combat damage
>tfw no equipment only ways to lock out the game
this is my favorite deck
so many ways to make disk indestructable and otherwise a pain in the ass

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>>54681042
Totally goofy and not abusable at all :)

>>54681056
See >>54681063
It doesn't matter what kind of land he's tutoring he's still a fucking beast in this format.
I understand where you're coming from though, Prophet of Kruphix is my waifu.

>>54681070
But you can literally do the same thing with acidic slime (and I have done that same combo before in a deck I have since taken apart).

Honestly, if you are doing that combo acidic slime is better. It's cheaper so it's easier to leave open counterspell mana.

>>54681020
>implying that the optimal time to stop storm isn't near the end of their chain once they've exhausted all resources
Nobody wants to watch you play pocket pool while you dig through your deck one-handed. You're *that guy*.

>>54681114
>Nobody wants to watch you play pocket pool while you dig through your deck one-handed. You're *that guy*.
DAS RITE!
*moves to combat with a crawwurm and a mountain giant*
>can you believe people artificially inflate the length of games based on their card choices

>>54681105
It's not about comboing.
So many two-card combos in this game they don't bother blasting one out of the water.
Try playing a few games with Sylvan Primodial in your deck and see how long it takes the table to realize why it was banned.

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>>54681042
>Nightmare mode Enganged

>>54681105
Acidic Slime doesn't hit each player and ramp you for 3 in a 4-player game though.

>>54681169
>tfw Ive lost to commander damage from this guy
as silly as it is, its still a 3 turn clock

>>54681042
>>54681042
Invest now. Dominaria coming soon so we are gonna see some new cephalids (I hope). During HoD spoiler season I passed on buying foil timeshifted Nicol Bolas for $12 and it spiked to $80. Feels bad man.

>>54681144
>no card in the game named mountain giant
>also not playing the darksteel citadel + awaken the ancient combo
Lurk harder.

>>54681144
I bet you play Eggs in Modern too.

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>>54681196
Forgot pic but you knew who I was talking about.

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>>54681204
>mountain giant
you are right its mountain titan

>>54681204
#rekt

Do I make Oviya mono-green or try some unholy Akiri Line-Slinger/Tana the Bloodsower Naya artifacts?

>>54681144
If you want to play solitaire, play it at home. No need to waste everyone's time for that.

>>54681220
I bet you lose to eggs in modern
wewlad

>>54681011
i dont get that. "bad feels" yeah ok? there's a lot on mtg that have bad feels. should we ban counterspell? armageddon?
im not saying it's not powerful but banning things becuase they feel bad for your oppnent is not a valid reason.

>>54681144
Nice strawman there guy.

Storm is an annoying archetype because a storm player attempting to go off can easily take 15-20 minutes of them just fiddling with themselves. Even if you a flusterstorm or stifle or whatever to stop it, you have to sit through all that shit. Then don't forget sometimes they go through all these motions and don't ever hit a high enough count or draw into their storm cards, and you sat through all that for nothing.
My games tend to go for about an hour, and I don't want it to be one guys jerk off session. It's the same way people feel about others taking extra turns that are not infinite (since then you just win).

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>>54681241
BRG storm?

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This guy any fun?

>>54681295
Solemnity says no

>>54681295
He's simic. Of course he's fun.

For you. Not your opponents.

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>>54681333
>Solemnity says no

>>54681163
I played with it before it was unbanned, and I still don't get it. I understand primetime, the ability to tutor any lands made him a complete fucking win con. 2 triggers in and you already had a game winning threat with just lands.

This guy is removal, with a ramp effect for only forests that kicks in after you have a boatload of mana already. He isn't bad, but shit man, he is nowhere near hulk, or TnN, or even seedborn imho.

>>54681169
At least you can cast Sunder when your lands are phased out to make it somewhat useful.

>>54681333
>>54681356
>I have a forcefield!
>I have a forcerfield-breaking sword!
Please.

>>54681373
You can Flash or Reanimate him in turn 2, set each opponent down a land, and grab 3 duals/shocks. That's pretty powerful, and it can be abused multiple times after that.

>>54681383
Solemnity isn't the game changer people think it is anon. Especially when Green has a billion cards that destroy enchantments.

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>>54681281
its more real than you think

>>54681383
What green decks don't run naturalize effects?

>>54681187
Acidic slime also costs less, and I feel like assuming that it's always going to hit a bunch of players isn't accurate. Sure, if you were in a 100 player game it would grab every forest out of your deck and be a crazy card. But plenty of games are just a couple other players, and usually some players die. It could very well be acidic slime that ramps you one, for way too much mana. In these cases it's a bad card.

If you base a cards power level off of how many players you could have in game, then selvala should be banned, because she could make a billion mana in a 2 billion player game, and that's just OP from the command zone.

But I don't think people evaluate cards like that, so maybe you shouldn't either.

>>54681373
But Hulk and Seedborn don't destroy lands with an EtB trigger, while providing ramp and a good body.
Terastodon gives something in return and has a limited number of triggers and doesn't give you lands, so it's not banned.

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>>54681295
No

>make a newzuri deck
>simic 2/2 goodstuff
>oh boy dis don be gud, so many counters
>play newzuri it dies
>nevermind next time
>play a 2/2
>cast newzuri and a 2/2
>yesss 1 counter
>newzuri dies
>deck full of 2/2's that might live long enough to get +1/+1
>this is nothing like it sounded like on paper
This is your life now

>>54681433
You could also Reanimate Jin turn 2, and that is by far the more backbreaking play.

And if we are talking about flashing something in, you know hulk is legal, right?

His banning doesn't make any sense

>>54681438
>>54681468
Wasn't saying that it can't be removed.
I was pointing out it's childish to even respond to someone's "dies to removal"-tier comment with a "dies to removal"-tier comment.

>>54677304
>he doesn't know about the Grandeur decks

>>54681510
>Vish Kal
>manage to get him out while I have board presence and gravepact effects
>dominate the game
>oh boy this is great
>next game everything I play gets removed and people bully me down to 3 lands
Shit happens, win some lose some.

>>54681473
It's not banned in Duel or 1v1 MTGO, so it's pretty obvious we're talking about mutliplayer where the normal amount of players is 4. And I personally don't think it should be on the banlist, I'm explaining why it is and why it's far better than Acidic Slime.

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>>54681514
>T1 entomb jin
>t2 animate dead
Not always but it does happen and when it does there is so much salt the game loses its tick from the heart foundation for high sodium content

>>54681490
>But hulk

You don't even know what it does, do you? A dead hulk wins you the game. It could also form a loop to destroy all lands too, if you were feeling cheeky, but most people don't fuck around and just win with it instead.

>>54681510
Why'd you never put Lightning Greaves on him?

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>Edgar Markov
>Legendary Creature - Elder Vampire

Agree or disagree?

>>54681593
It's the whole 'Dies to doom blade' argument. Something might kill it therefore its trash.

>>54681510
>so many counters
>ezuri still dies
this is not the decks fault its yours

>>54681606
>Vampire Knight

>>54681606
watch gay is going to be a creature type
>gay vampire knight

>>54681514
Jin isn't an ETB though and he doesn't put you ahead regardless of whether or not he's removed. I agree though that he's the more back breaking play, but he's harder to use. Part of the reason the Primordial is banned is because of how easy it is to abuse.

>>54681590
Demonic Tutor wins me a lot of games too but it's off the banlist just like Hulk.

>>54681631
I remember when Modern first started a neckbeard got furious at me because I said Affinity was gonna make a comeback because "THERE'S SO MANY WAYS TO DESTROY ARTIFACTS!"

Should I convert my derevi stax to a roon etb deck? Im tierd of winning all the time

>>54677044

>4 cmc kill spell with an upside
>instant speed
>at common

this would be uncommon at the least in any current standard set.

>>54677204

>most of green's strongest creatures are basically just mana dorks

this post is so wrong it's almost physically painful to read

>the best ramp in edh is basically just various fast mana rocks

sol ring probably out values kodama's reach but sol ring into skyshroud claim will still always be better. artifact ramp being better than green ramp doesn't not make green the best ramp color. it still also has some of the best removal as well as strong card draw, leagues better than anything red and white get. green is the best color in edh.

>>54678674

I played him a lot because he was +1 card every time I gained life. Then I used that life to fuel dumb stuff.

>>54681754
>Derevi is so broken guys
>foil sitting at $7 while each other arsenalfu is sitting at $20+

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>>54681356
decree of silence says no
(I know its a huge combo with solemnity but...)

>>54681891
And Prossh is less than $1. That's because c2013 was over printed and incredilly easy to find below msrp. It has nothing to do with power level.

>>54682090
>True-Name Nemesis still $20
Mistakes were made.

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>>54680346

>>54681579
>Playing Skullbriar
>opponent T1 Entombs Jin
>T1 Reanimate
Fucking blue mages making us sink to their level.

>>54682130
Have you ever activated her ability on another player in response to a third player wrathing? Highest quality salt.

>>54681682
>>54681697
He was explicitly an Alchemist, but that's not a creature type. It would be easy to say Vampire Wizard and call it a day, but that's not something Mardu really has, and idk if they would overlap with another deck like that for the face card.

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>>54682120
>Mistakes were made.
Like WOTC not expecting that card to be used outside of commander.

>>54682156
If anyone Entombs on their turn and doesn't immediately reanimate, they deserve to have this happen.

>>54681196
>foil original bolas price
feels good already having one that I got years ago for ~5 dollars.

>>54677044
>"Stop Mentioning Competitive"
Can edhg be more pathetic?

>>54682120
It was a way to make Legacy players need to spend $30 and was a success.

>>54682222
>competitive edh
>competitive
>edh

>>54681295
How'd this dude end up as EDHrec's top Simic commander?

>>54682247
>¿How'd the non-Spellslinger Simic commander end up on top?
Some people want to be the least cancer of the most cancer.

>>54682296
Simic isn't usually spellslinger though. It's goodstuff. Lots of ramp and control with value creatures and big finishers.

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Speaking of Simic.

How can I break this guy?

>>54682446
Horseshoe Crab.

>>54682222
It does nothing but start autistic arguments in this general. At best, no one knows what is competitive in this general. It's not a topic meant for this general.

Also people who play EDH competitively are astoundingly sad.

>>54682446
By taking 20 seconds to look at his EDHREC page.

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>>54682557
>Prices on all edh staples spike over 3000%
>Days later wizards announces pro tour edh
>star city games face when

>>54682446
Gilder Bairn.

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>>54680037
Each of these cards are individually really good in Sidisi, so here's another natural combo you can use.

>>54682446
Why does he have 2 relatively stretched anuses?

>>54680089
ramp like a motherfucker with rocks, unwinding clock, clock of omen, mycosynth lattice and blinkmoth urn.
Steal your enemies lands
Find a new playgroup
Rine and repeat until you tear the deck apart because everyone hates you.

>>54682633
Mutations.

>>54681682
>>54681697
>>54682172
He's covered in armor. There's no way he's getting out of this without being a Vampire Knight.

>>54682663
>Wizards brings back the "Lord" type.
>Edgar Markov, Patriarch - Vampire Lord

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>>54682633
More anuses = more progress.
This is bio-engineering 101, anon.

>>54682627
My favorite part of this combo is when people don't get how it works.

>>54682731
It seems pretty straightforward

>>54682627
How's this work?

>>54682799
It mills you infinitely.

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>>54682446
>>54682591
And this guy.
If you have at least 5 counters on Kraj before tapping, he generates an arbitrary amount of mana and counters.

>>54682825
But how? Does the creature become free to play from the graveyard?

>>54682799
Cast Lt. Dan.
Tap Dan to mill one card.
Sac Dan for a black mana.
Cast Dan from your graveyard.
Tap Dan to mill one card.
Sac Dan for a black mana.
You should get the idea.

>>54682825
Better. It mills anyone infinitely.

>>54682862
You play it from your graveyard for one B. Tap it. Sac it with phyrexian altar, add one B to your mana pool. Repeat.

>>54682777
When I first looked at it I got caught up on the discounted activation cost from Embalmer's Tools and wondered what retard thought Gravecrawler was an activated ability.

Turns out I'm the retard.

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>>54682799
>tap gravecrawler mill for 1
>sack gravecrawler for 1 black
>cant get cravecrawler back because you dont control a zombie
>still got 1 black mana
>???
>profit

C o m p e t i t i v e

>>54682862
It's not free, you sacrifice it to play itself.

>>54682777
That's what's great about it.

>>54682902
>because you dont control a zombie

The additional zombie is implied. There doesn't really need to be a specific one pictured, because any zombie will work.

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You boys and girls stocking up on tribal cards for the new decks coming out? Picked up a few wizard cards since I'm for sure getting the Grixis Wizard one.

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I got to play Zada today.
Managed to get the triple flip three times on a Fiery Gambit and that's really all I ever wanted out of life.

>>54682947
>combo works becaue of another card I may have in play already
>not included in the post
>implying
Wew lad nice combo there

>>54682979
So if get the OH BABY A TRIPLE on Zada, and you have 4 other creatures out, you draw 45?

>>54682980
Did you really need it spelled out for you? You're incapable of inferring from context clues?

>>54682991
You can also get a fucking huge amount of mana and burn your opponents for a shitload.

>>54682991
No. You resolve the flips for each creature individually. It takes a long time to resolve, but that's half the fun.

>>54682980
>commander spawns zombie tokens

>>54682973
where did you see there was going to be a grixis wizard?

>>54683032
It was confirmed in an article in a Japanese magazine.

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>>54682947
Hay guise checkout my combo
>implying I have a leveler in play, another 3 mana on the field and a lab man and cantrip in my hand, its totally a combo and you are a retard if you can see how it worked

>>54683041
I'm not saying this as the flavor of the week insult, you may genuinely be on the Autism spectrum, anon.

Has anyone listened to the last Commanders Brew's podcast?
What card did they spoil?

>>54682973
I bought a Riptide Laboratory.

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>>54683041
I'm going to respond to your combo with my combo.

>>54683041
>Cast Act of Aggression targeting LabMan in response to your cantrip

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>tfw no way to get the judge reward promo

>>54682973
Bought a Riptide Lab and a Docent of Perfection so far. Wish I had a way to pre-order the Wizard deck.

>>54683411
I never understood the flavor of gaddock teeg

is ir supposed to be like down to earth thinking? As in don't think big?

>>54683411
Should've been a judge.

>>54682627
Why not just use Diregraf Captain/Blood Artist/Plague Belcher? Mill is really unreliable.

>>54683411
>de ink a foil
>print this picture on window decal
>stick em together
Just like a judge promo

>>54683040
whats the name?

>>54683411
It's $60 on TCGplayer. So you can if you *really* want to.

>>54683476
>defacing a foil teeg
His normal art is already top tier, not to mention the foil is $70+

>>54683455
He's a politician, so he's supposed to be stopping people from doing crazy shit and sitting down to talk.

>>54683501
Ofricial Rizzards of the Coast Magrazine

>>54683015
My playgroup groans whenever they see me pull out the quarters, because they know I'm holding Fiery Gambit or Aleatory. If you don't give a shit about the other modes and are just desperately searching for cards, a 1 on a d8 gives you the same odds as getting three consecutive heads. (1/2, then 1/4, then 1/8).

>>54683468
More options. Sometimes you just can't rely on creatures.

>>54683468
Because you can have both. The point is not to build a deck just to do the Embalmer's combo, it's that you might as well play each of the cards by themselves, because they're each good on their own. At least in my playgroup, a "natural combo" is a combo made up of cards that you would still want to play even if you weren't playing the other pieces of the combo.

>>54683411
The original art is better

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>>54683576

>>54683605
>combo requires a creature
>sometimes you can't rely on creatures
???

>>54683610
What are you using Embalmer's tools for? It's almost always going to be a dead card.

>>54683576
i meant the name of the grixis commander you

>>54683670
Tap the Zombie tokens from Sidisi to mill to get more Zombie tokens.

>>54683688
Fair enough

>>54683670
Correct. Kill spells are the most common form of removal in EDH. As long as you have one zombie, Embalmer's Tools, Altar, and Gravecrawler in the grave then you have a combo. It doesn't need a specific zombie on the field like Captain to win. It's all about redundancy and extra options.

>>54683686
Nothing solid yet, all we know is that it is in fact Wizards. We know the vampire deck is for sure Edgar Markov thanks to the official podcast. They said they'll talk about the Wizard commander in the next podcast (no abilities, just the name most likely).

>>54683730
Nigga just stop, you have been shitting up this thread for an hour now with your stupid "combo"

>>54683784
Not even that guy, you've been shitting up the thread with your autism.

>>54683784
I'm not the one who posted it, I was just pointing out that there's nothing wrong with your deck having more than one combo. He posted it the other day when I was asking for Scarab God tech. The only one shitting themselves over it is you.

>>54683751
Hopefully it's Gatha, Tolarian Renegade.

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>mfw >>54683805 was posted 1 second after >>54683806, but has a lower post number

Hiro, what is this time walk nonsense?

>>54683751

Don't spoilers start next week? I'm sure we'll see at least the official packaging by the time spoilers start.

>>54683851
Time is convoluted and hard.

>>54683876
Spoilers should be in the next week or the week after.

>>54683894
allegedly next week, according to the one vampire podcast on edgar, no card details were revealed in it but we are going to get at least one Tarkir vampire

>>54683851
Look >>54683805 took an extra turn there's not much we can do about it.

>>54683960
Yeah, I kind of half-listened to it while I was cruising through gatherer for deck tech. As cool as Edgar sounds, I'm still fixated on the Wizard deck and all of the possible lore characters that could come in it as new cards.

>>54683849
>Gatha
That would be truly wonderful

>>54682979
>>54683015
>>54683586
Roll three d-anything
on three evens you triple

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>>54683586
There's a heavy bronze coin that came with the special edition of BotW, which I use for my coin flips.

So guys, its almost time to pop the question to my gf.

Should i sell off some of my older cards to buy a ring? I figure i could sell off somethings like my rishadan port, city of traitors, and sliver queen.

>>54682973
apparently this card exists
someone played it last night
seemed on par

>>54684162
Fuck you, this is the wrong place to ask. I come here to forget my sad, lonely life, not to be reminded by some anonymous dick that I'm alone and my life is terrible.

May your relationship be as brief and unfufilling as your time spent posting here.

>>54684162

If you can't afford a ring then how can you provide for your wife? Don't you need ANOTHER ring for the wedding, not to mention weddings and honeymoons are very expensive

And then you have to live together and support each other

I mean sell away, but I'm just saying

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>>54684162
Giving up your hobbies for a piece of worthless jewelry for some pussy.

Priorities man. This is MTG we're talking about.

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>>54684162
Get a Chinese proxy wedding ring for like $3.

>>54684162
Don't fall for the jewelry industry bullshit. When my husband proposed to me, he just used a simple silver ring.

>>54684196
Sorry, didn't mean to trigger you. Hey i was a bitter fuckstick at one point too.

>>54684216
Well its more the cards have decreased utility to me, as I have never really found a place for them in a deck.

>>54684249
She actually plays magic with me, she prefers modern to edh. So no hobbies will be given up. Except for my poor steam account, i haven't really gamed much in years.

>>54684265
10/10

New Thread

>>54684334
>>54684334
>>54684334
>>54684334

>>54684267
Yeah, I am actually thinking about making my own setting for the ring, I've played around with green sand moulding in the past. Either that or i am just going to have an estate ring fixed up

>>54684331
>>54684364
Propose with a Masterpiece Sol Ring.

>>54682862
Yes, you sac it for B using the third card.