Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

First for the four armed Emperor!

Good to see some khorne psyker hosing that is actually good.

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Fourth for gifs

>>54675073
Also good to know that one Chaos Legion is better at their thing than the loyalist equivalent. Melee is one place where Chaos just outright is superior to SM and it's good they kept it that way and then some.

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Chaos is coming...

>>54675088
Its some caind of game or what?

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Thick your eldar's womb.

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>10-man Bezerker squad with khan that attacks twice with +1A and can attack twice for 84 chainaxe attacks, or 124 attacks with a chainsword

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Iron intensifies

If I played Alpha Legion using the Space Marine codex, would I get shit for it?

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>>54675102
Nah, just a guy who does a bunch of pixel art gifs and did a few for 40k

Anyone got some good and fucked up images as inspiration for chaos?

>>54675069
Nice digits ;D

Repostan

Battalion detchment +3cp

High Marshal Helbretch 170pt

Saint Celestine 250pt
+2x Germinae Superia

Lieutenant 64pt
+power sword

10x Initiate 146pt
+8x chainsword
+power fist
+power sword

10x Initiate 146pt
+8x chainsword
+power fist
+power sword

5x Initiate 90pt
+missile launcher

Stormraven 316
+twin assault cannon
+twin h. bolter
+2x hurrican bolter
+4x stormstrike missile

Stormraven 316
+twin assault cannon
+twin h. bolter
+2x hurrican bolter
+4x stormstrike missile

1498pt, 6cp

How does it look?

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>>54675088
>not webms

Rolled 6, 3 = 9 (2d6)

Everyone roll a pair of dice to see if Carnac dies in a car crash tomorrow. Doubles is a yes. Double 6's means that Tzeentch makes it extra painful

>>54675135
Yes.

>>54675125
The +1 attack on the charge only triggers the first time you fight, it doesn't improve the actual attacks characteristic. You can tell they worded it very oddly and specifically to avoid giving Berzerkers +2 (or 3) attacks.

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>>54675125
>he thinks they'll get into melee

>>54675159
Fuck off. Just don't give him any attention and he'll leave

>>54675165

Dammit. Back to the drawing board.

>>54675159
So what's the joke this time?
6 isn't Tzeentch's sacred number, you know?

>>54675135
Nah, it's actually a really common thing to do.

It's been kind of funny watching all the anons talking about playing primaris alpha legion like they're the first person to think of it.

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Lads... can you Deep strike / arrive from orbit / da jump / whatever... and do this?

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>>54675172
He thinks you can't charge out of rhinos

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>>54675138

>>54675171
Ooooooh, it is just one Attack isn't it. Damn.

>>54675184
>Nah, it's actually a really common thing to do.

For power gaming shit heads.

>>54675135
No, but also yes.
It entirely depends on how you fluff it.

>>54675171
No, it's for the entire subsequent fight phase. So zerkers would have +1 attack each time the fight for the entire player turn that they changed in

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>>54675138
From last thread

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>>54675156
>heavy D6

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Is Yvraine the best 40k waifu ?

>>54675049
>12 point power fists
>45 point terminators
Oh me oh my

>>54675185
Yes if your opponent somehow leaves that much fucking space on the table around his unit.

Good luck, that's upwards of a 20" diameter and you need to wrap around that entire circumference.

>>54675200
You sure you didn't just rip that off of generic death metal album cover?

>>54675203
>Know hair on the side of her head

No.

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Did fanboys go too far this time?

>>54675177
Ignore him, been doing it for years,no one cares

>>54675132
SHIT YEAH!! Glad he's all primed up and ready to go now quickly obtain some hazard stripes mah nigga.

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>>54675171

I'm not seeing the words "next time the fight" here. Or even "the first time during..." All I see is "during the next fight sub phase".

>>54675199
>So zerkers would have +1 attack each time the fight for the entire player turn that they changed in
It doesn't say each time they fight. It says "one additional attack in the subsequent fight phase", period. That means the first time you fight you make the bonus attack. The second time you fight it doesn't trigger because you already got your additional attack for this phase. If they meant for it to trigger each time you fought it would say "add 1 to their Attacks characteristic in the following Fight phase". They very clearly worded it to avoid that.

>>54675125
The first time I fought Berserkers I was completely unimpressed. It was 1v1 with a Tac Squad and I'd just back up and shoot each time they charged, which between that and Overwatch would kill 2 of them to the 1 they'd manage to kill in the fight phase, and then I'd attack back and kill another. I did have a flamer in that squad, but seriously are bezerkers way over hyped or was my first time a fluke?

>>54675218
Man I got some worse chaos-ish ones than that but not sure if SFW

>>54675245
Looks like hyper generic death metal album art lol
>DOOOOODDD BRUTALS N STUFF

>>54675237
Fluke. They can drown shit in attacks no problem

>>54675198
I disagree. While I'm not an alpha legion player, I can certainly see how C:SM fits the alphamemes better than CSM. For starters, the fact that C:SM has snipers and CSM doesn't

>>54675237
The silly zerkers forgot to bring chainsword + chainaxe combo.

>>54675132
Why is he so grainy?
I'd advise stripping before you progress further.

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>>54675187
>he thinks the rhinos will live past turn one

Armor indominus vs salamanders mantle for my captain?

T5 vs 2+ with a 1 time 3++

Which is better generally?

>>54675156
>"A-Ancient Romulus, the enemy is nearby ! Why aren't you firing, brother Dreadnought ?"
>"Eldar ass is fine ass. I had some in M36. I want to go back sleepin on Maccrage."

>>54675230
Thanks my dude, I've got a couple extra washes of nuln oil on him and I can't wait to get back home from work and continue workin on him

>>54675233
"you can make ONE additional attack with each of its models in the subsequent Fight phase"

Technically you don't need to use it the first time you Fight, but I don't see why anyone would wait to use the bonus attacks until the second round of fighting. But the point is, you get one additional attack, total, in the entire phase. It doesn't trigger again no matter how many times you fight. It doesn't increase your Attacks characteristic.

>>54675227
'm pretty sure at one point Fulgrim becomes aware of all the freaky chaos shit he did and decides to go with the flow

>>54675257
Alpha Legion don't have scouts.
Codex Space Marines in no way fits Alpha Legion

>>54675203
Only for Bobby G.

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>>54675226
Yeah, that kinda triggers me. I really like her character, but I would like her more if she was closer to pic related.

>>54675236

Your wrong and the faq will no doubt explain that you're wrong because they seem to like filling those things up with explanations of incredibly basic stuff to dumb people.

At least it won't be a long wait.

>>54675276

They do have human operatives though. Far more trained than Cultists.

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>>54675049
Chaos cannot be escaped in this world or the next
>>54675227
Nothing worse than Arch Warhammer does, or R+L=J, but yeah what happens to daemons once their god dies, do they just shift to their new patron or disappear as they were part of slaanesh

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I know most Mechanicus sexually identify as an attack helicopter (because they are) but would it be ULTRA TECH HERESY to have female Skitarii?

I've bought some of these, which have lobster style armour and long coats, and was going to stick Skitarii backpacks, arms and heads on them so they're wholly clothed, gas masked and have robot arms and the proper Admech guns (galvanic rifles and arquebuses)

Would you play against an Admech army where a few troops have got powerful chest orbs?

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>>54675138

>>54675171
Nope. They said on facebook that you get +1 attack both times.

>>54675265
Bike, armour indominus, and storm shield.

>>54675296
>that duck face
Not only did you buy beta tier third party female models, you bought hideous ones. Fuckinrg embarrassing

>>54675296
Anon, women trigger people and should be avoided whenever possible.

>>54675289
Sure thing, dude, keep believing that.

It would have been very, very easy for them to have written it as "models in that unit add 1 to their Attacks characteristic during the subsequent Fight phase". They didn't in order to avoid it multiplying with Berzerkers and the Khorne strat, because getting 1 free extra attack per model is already an amazing bonus. There is no other reason to have worded it that way, which demonstrates intent. RAW and RAI you are wrong.

>>54675227
Also fulgrim is iffy
He was chaos friendly but after he killed his buttbuddy Ferrus, the daemon in his sword possessed him, but then Fulgrim slowly ate the daemon and regained control of himself. So when the EC were raping Terrans, fulgrim was fully aware and let this happen

>>54675276
But they do have snipers, one of their unique units during the HH were headhunters, who's entire job was to assassinate. And during the HH, scout armor was used by normal marines, so it's not like you can't fluff it some other way than "these are scouts"
While it entirely depends on how you fluff it, a less chaosy part of the alpha legion would most definitely be better represented by C:SM

>>54675260
It's the tamiya primer and I hear it's particularly grainy by itself. I might try sanding some of the rougher bits but I can't strip because there is a lot of greenstuff that'll get destroyed

I wonder if they'll make an Aggressor variant with Krakstorm launchers. They should. Like meltafists and krakstorm launchers.

>>54675288
Those proportions would be terrible normally, but doubly so on an Eldar

>>54675294
Scout aren't human.
Again, Codex Space Marines in no way fits Alpha Legion. It represent a modern Space Marine chapter.
Alpha Legion should either operate like a Legion of old or like a modern warband.

>>54675202
Damage value 11

>>54675171
It annoys me to no end that any brainlet could see this needs clarifying immediately after reading it but they still leave it vague enough to require a faq.

>>54675303
Post screenshot, then.

>>54675272
Yes it does?
You get additional one attack with each model, it makes one attack when it fights the first time and other one when it fights the second time.
>not even out yet and it needs an FAQ.

>>54675296
No, though like most things where you try include women or black people on this board you're going to get some ass ravages spergs who are gonna REEEEEEEEE at you for it.

Do what you want though, they look like really nice models.

>>54675276
>forgetting the time the alpha legion made a space marine recruiting world into theirs, causing the chapter to kill itself

>>54675200
MFW I you forget the Gellar Field

>>54675125
first time I saw berzerkers fight they got into combat with a squad of Custodians and did nothing
Then Kharn came along and killed five of them in one phase

>>54675323
>But they do have snipers,

But no scouts, and in Codex Space Marines they come part and parcel.

> a less chaosy part of the alpha legion would most definitely be better represented by C:SM

Absolutely not. Codex Space Marines represents a modern chapter, which the Alpha Legion are not.

>>54675347
Hypnotic suggestion is not an ability in the Space Marine codex.

>>54675304
Fuck you I'd you if you think I'm taking a bike In my salamander list you WAAC fuck

>>54675296
You do you, but those faces are terrible, and the picklehaub makes me think SoB more than Skittari, but skittari probably have their uteruses replaced with a Comslink or other Cogitator so it doesn't matter

>>54675329
It fits much closer than anything chaos space marine.

Index chaos or even codex chaos marines does not fit them one bit and it's much fluffier to run them as "raven guard" with lots of scouts.

>>54675125
Its much more relevant on terminators, possessed, and hellbrutes.

Why didn't tartaros terminators get a point reduction like the vanilla ones did with the power fist points decrease?

>>54675340
It doesn't say "each time the model fights", it says one additional attack in the phase. If you make one the first time you fight, and one the second time you fight, you made two additional attacks with each model that phase, ergo you cheated. There is no condition that allows it to trigger again on additional chances to fight.

>>54675365
>which option is most powerful
>this is the most powerful
>I didn't want the most powerful you WAAC fuck
Okay.

>>54675329
>modern space marine chapter
>being so nu you didn't use 5th ed codex BA for pre heresy WE

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Stop arguing your upsetting the baby

>>54675333
>>54675340
>not even out yet and it needs an FAQ
Say it with me!

MOST PLAYED EDITION EVER?!?

>>54675303
I'm on the facebook, they said nothing of the sort.

Why are chaoscucks the most blatant cheaters in 40k?

They forgot the artifact in the article.

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>>54675320
>There is no other reason to have worded it that way

Except or for the fact that it is the same wording they use for every effect that gives you extra attacks, except titan feet. Why would they break the style guide for this one particular ability?

No, it's an additional attack every time they swing in that particular fight sub phase. In fact, they could spend the 3cp on their stratagem and have the ability trigger a third time.

>>54675398
That's pretty conclusive

>>54675227
I can't wait for the big reveal that Ynnead is Slaanesh. It's so obvious.

>>54675363
They made the scouts leave their chapter and join the warband, are you happy or do we need to scream about metal boxes again
>>54675360
Argel Tal killed 2 and stole a spear, his bromance with Kharn was unexpected but kinda cool, espcieally when they killed cultists together

>>54675363
>But no scouts, and in Codex Space Marines they come part and parcel.
Except they had scouts during the HH you mong. Recon squads, who could were 4+ armor and get sniper rifles. They litteraly had scouts.
>Absolutely not. Codex Space Marines represents a modern chapter, which the Alpha Legion are not.
and what the fuck is a "modern chapter?" Only codex compliant chapters? Then why are templars in it, when aren't codex compliant?
More over, why are you so butthurt about the idea of not using the CSM to represent alpha legion.

>>54675340
Not really, it's very obvious it's just ONE more attack per model and you can't repeat it.

>in the subsequent Fight phase

>this unit can fight twice per Fight phase, instead of only once

It's all in one fight PHASE. You don't do multiple fight phases, just fight multiple times per phase.

>>54675379
Because there's no reason to take indomitus then, FW still has it fucked yo where they're not a 6++, but no gotta sell the resin

>>54675401
Compared to 7th this is so balanced it puts a ballerina to shame

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>>54675403
Git fucked, loyalist pig.

>>54675401
would you prefer the previous editions with few to no FAQs, or regular FAQs coming out to fix problems early

>>54675410
That's not the same wording at all you utter mongoloid, that specifically says "EACH TIME IT FIGHTS" which is NOT what the WE trait says, holy shit you are dumb.

>>54675403
>>54675398

Was it cheese of me to bring a mostly dreadnought list into a 50 PL game?

I had a Captain, Librarian, 2 Contemptors, 2 Venerables, and a Normal Boxnaught. I played against some Primaris Marines, which also had a Sicarian with the Neutron Laser.

>>54675401
>retards disagree over what a rule means
>GW quickly puts out an answer
>HURR DURR MOST PLAYTESTED EDITION EVER, HOW DARE GW TRY AND MAINTAIN BALANCE HURR DURR
Fuck off retard

>>54675296

Not only would I be fine playing against it, I'm stealing the idea

>>54675382
No, it says you make one additional attack which refers to their ATTACK characteristic and as a result would thus make one additional attack each time they're called upon to fight.

Calling people cheaters when they call you out on your overly obtuse and WAAC interpretation of the rules is a good way for people to stop playing with you, you know.

>>54675372
>It fits much closer than anything chaos space marine.

You keep saying so, but that doesn't make it true.The Alpha Legion don't abide by the codex or have the gear of Codex Space Marines.

> it's much fluffier to run them as "raven guard" with lots of scouts.

No, again Alpha Legion have never been depicted as using masses of Scouts.

>>54675396
Oh wow, power gamers existed in 5e too?! Colour me surprised.

>>54675429
>They made the scouts leave their chapter and join the warband, are you happy or do we need to scream about metal boxes again

Scouts just don't fit.

>>54675433
>Except they had scouts during the HH you mong. Recon squads, who could were 4+ armor and get sniper rifles. They litteraly had scouts.

Everyone could, yet no models exist, they're not iconic to the Alpha Legion.

>More over, why are you so butthurt about the idea of not using the CSM to represent alpha legion.

Because the Alpha legion are represented in Codex Chaos Space Marines which will be out soon. Trying to weasel your way into a perceived stronger codex because of fluff that doesn't even fit is scummy.

Why is it almost impossible to get people to critique a list in these generals?

The most inane shit gets a response, but fuck you if you're planning on actually PLAYING the game

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Oh shit, new stuff

>>54675486
Should we make a list sharing general?

>>54675227
It's all bullshit but if there was a switch it would likely be Omegon and Lion El'Jonson. The Fallen and Cypher are already in the Chaos codex and there's so many Alpha Legion cells that some of them of them could return to the fold without being all spiked out.

Easy as can be. Add two Primarch models and both legions can still be played as dual Imperial/Chaos.

>>54675313
>>54675367

read the fucking post

>was going to stick Skitarii backpacks, arms and heads on them
>Skitarii... heads

So no duckface, no german helmet, techpriest hoods and a face full of lenses

>>54675450
That comment does not actually exist anywhere on the facebook page. It was probably removed after the community team was told by the rules writers they made a mistake.

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>>54675264
lewdar confirmed

>>54675468
>50 PL
>PL
Fageddaboutit, run whatever
i ran pedro, a lieutenant with the relic fist and five dreads against some necrons at 1k, killed anything i came near but lost on objectives.

>>54675496
I think it is an option like the wolf guard battle friend in grey hunter squads. Almost like a second, more powerful, champion.

>>54675486
While you're not wrong, theres also the fact that some people don't feel qualified to comment on factions they don't know so well. I only comment on one, maybe two factions when it comes to peoples lists because I'm not experienced enough to give information on the others.

>>54675496
We already knew of the Exalted Champion.

It makes you reroll to wound.
It's like a Dark Apostle but for wounding.

>>54675468
To use that mang rare dreads yes
To use that many dreads no, should have had 2 normal ones a venerable, an iron clad, and a contemptor

>>54675486
>>54675498
> Waaaaaah look at me general. Or WLMG
Got a name for you general already boys!

>>54675455
>EACH TIME IT FIGHTS"

Because it lasts forever and not the duration of a single fight phase. Its still using the standard "make an additional attack" wording, not the fanciful increase its attack profile by 1 crap you claimed was pivotal after pulling it from your ass.

>>54675480
>Because the Alpha legion are represented in Codex Chaos Space Marines which will be out soon. Trying to weasel your way into a perceived stronger codex because of fluff that doesn't even fit is scummy.
Top kek, alpha legion litteraly gets rules stolen from C:SM. So it's scummy to want things like stalker bolters or snipers or infiltrating units? You're a special kind of retard.

Do you like beans?

>>54675498
Surely that's under the remit of /40kg/ though

I only come here for 40k most of the time, and even I think there's already too many 40k threads on /tg/

>>54675480
>being this much of a WAACfag that your overcompensate by calling people which spent hours preparing resin and making their own transfers WAACfags
In this moment I am euphoric

>>54675507
I'm looking at it right now on facebook

>>54675501
So does everyone who thinks the Lion is a traitor just not read anything beyond Angels of Darkness?

>>54675486
>almost impossible to critique a list
Because the amount of games we play isn't enough to be able to innately know how well an army can perform outside of mathhammer
>>54675498
Don't, its like taking /mbg/ from /gsg/ it just died

>>54675455
Hey, it doesn't say WHEN you're allowed to make this extra attack either but I don't see you arguing that it's resolved outside of the usual activation.

Sometimes these rules require some common sense, like wu-tang klan technically being legal in a hyper literal interpretation of the rules.

It grants them one extra attack each time they fight but they didn't feel the need to state that because it's not a common ability. They stated so much on their Facebook.

>>54675530
The 40kg is the most popular thread and is replaced three-four times a day while other generals goes days without being used. Since we have more questions than people can answer I reckon we deserve another thread designed for constructive criticism on lists.

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>>54675507
>butt hurt imperials

>>54675526
It's scummy because it's not your codex, and it doesn't represent your faction better than your own codex, you just wish it did.

>>54675531
I'm a WAACfag because you want to use a more powerful codex and cover it up with a thin and patently false veneer of "fluffy."
Nah, you're a cunt.

>>54675542
You're right, I just found it after digging through 110 partially hidden comments because FB is retarded.

Alright, I concede. GW writers did it again - somehow finding the way to twist what should have been a simple unambiguous rule into something different in the RAW that was bound to cause arguments.

Intercessor sergeant can take a aux. grenade launcher, right? It says "for every five models in the unit, one may take," so doesn't that include the sergeant? I'm short 4pts. and GW just said I can't take a power sword for my sergeant, so I'm looking for something to spend the last points on.

>>54675502
Okay I'd complain about the silk trousers more than the breasticles but yeah if you're cutting that much off then why didn't you just buy female skittari torsos

>>54675512
That game must have been so satisfying.

>>54675517
Those were the only dreadnoughts I had built, besides a leviathan and deredeo.

>>54675507
What are you, brain dead? Refresh your fucking browser, numbnuts.

>>54675398

Oh my, someone not on a mobile screen shot all the posts about the bonus applying only once. Someone getting BTFO this hard this fast deserves a few reposts.

>>54675547
I just said the Lion because of the Fallen and Cypher. It would be the easiest Legion to work into Chaos since there's who knows how many thousands of Fallen members still around. Much easier than having a Primarch fall and a chapter split down the middle because reasons.

>>54675547
It would be nice if one of the Primarchs was so disgusted by the imperium that they went renegade, no chaos shit they just carve out a bunch of planets to keep, maybe Vulkan, Corax or Khan I guess

>>54675566

Yeah, stick with CSM codex so you can use possessed (which alpha legion don't use) or dinobots (which alpha legion don't use) and defilers (which alpha legion don't use) and cult marines (which alpha legion don't use)

>>54675496
>>54675515
So is he our lieutenant, if so why couldn't we just have an aspiring champion, and then one rank higher would be a stand alone Chosen champion

>>54675582
Look at it yourself man. Half the comments ask this question and all the official replies say that it stacks.

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>>54675428

>Ynnead Eldar revive Guilliman with their magic
>Shortly after being revived, Guilliman is cursed by Fulgrim to never being allowed to feel pride or joy at anything, lest Chaos overtake him

hmm...

>>54675551
You're right, they just worded it like complete idiots in the one possible way it would cause confusion instead of saying "get +1 to their Attacks in the subsequent phase" which would have been perfectly clear. Who the fuck hired these guys? Where are their proofreaders? I guarantee other people who dont check the facebook are going to argue for the same interpretation I did until they errata it because RAW it makes more sense.

>>54675566
>It's scummy because it's not your codex, and it doesn't represent your faction better than your own codex, you just wish it did.
M8 I play fucking blood ravens, Alpha legion is not my faction. I just don't see a problem with someone wanting to use a different codex if they feel it fits their fluff better, so long as they don't try to cheese it by picking and choosing the best of both, but that's not possible in a battle forged list so it's not even a concern.

Stop being a butthurt little faggot

>>54675401
>"makes one additional attack in the subsequent Fight phase"
>not the NEXT time they fight

I'd chalk this up as baddies unable to read.

>>54675589
Alpha Legion do use Chaos though.
They don't use the codex or Primaris though.

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Since people are currently on the FB page anyways, a couple threads ago someone claimed that FB confirmed that you could resummon a slain character that you can only have one of in your army (like the Changeling). Does anyone have a link or a screencap for that??

>>54675557
That's because we just got a new edition, give it a year and we'll be normal rate, you're puncturing the fuel tank of a car going 60mph

>>54675227
I would really like Magnus but It is pretty imposible

What if we made a list building general for all games, not just 40k, and as such not just taking a chunk out of 40k. All in favor say and it shall be done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSjcLkB00GI

What is this?

>>54675606
>M8 I play fucking blood ravens,

Oh so you're a DoW memer, get fucked.

>I just don't see a problem with someone wanting to use a different codex if they feel it fits their fluff better

Because it doesn't fit the fluff better, it's a transparent grab for power.

>>54675502
Oh, so you just bought beta tier female third party models. Cool.

>>54675625
That is an idea so bad it could get you hired at GW.

>>54675566
>I'm a WAACfag because you want to use a more powerful codex and cover it up with a thin and patently false veneer of "fluffy."
>Nah, you're a cunt.
So you'd like me to bring my 30k books to the table which use completely different stats and points costs?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/03/incoming-transmission-b50-ap78903mh-aug-3gw-homepage-post-4/

What the fuck is this?

>>54675615
It's at normal rate. Some times it goes a bit slower, but /40kg/ is a fast general.
He's still wrong though, only one list has been posted in the thread, and nobody commented in it because it's horribly formatted

>>54675498

List threads occasionally exist and if you feel like you need one right now go ahead. Don't call it a general though, since it ain't a running thing.

>>54675575
It was great fun, i deathballed through his lychguard like they were orkz, Pedro and his LT offsider tore his overlord into little tiny bits, and basically murdered anything that came near, but couldnt hold ground after i passed through it. I feel that a 2k army consisting of some MSU intercessors to take objectives and two dread deathballs is a viable list, if not optimal

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What would a good Ynnari list look like ?

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Good to see they had the generically prepared before hand. We're really making an impact, folks.

>>54675384
He asked which of those 2 things was better

>>54675236
FAcebook team says that is incorrect.

>>54675629

LION RETURN CONFIRMED

>>54675569
For every X models, includes the sergeant in the models count but he can't take it, his wargrear is listed seprarely, which is why a unit of 9 Khorne berserkers and berzerker champion can take 9 plasma pistols

>>54675638
>>54675629
This is what all of those little leaks have been leading up to... exiting shit folks. I know it won't but will pray for renegades and heretics or dark mechanicum.

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>>54675171
I thought so too but then...<pic related>

>>54675636
Once FW updates them sure.

>>54675638
>>54675629
New Mechanicus stuff incoming?

Question
If I advance outside of the movements phase and then move but not advance in the movements does it counts as advancing for the purpose of shooting and assaulting?

I wonder for stuff like AoF that allow movements before the movements phase

>>54675638
???????????
New faction?

>>54675667
Better question is what the writing says and what the seal means. It could be the opening of some door... the door to a vault... in the middle of a rock...

>>54675669
Yes it counts as Advancing.

>>54675171
You would have to be fucking retarded to actually believe this based on how the rule is worded.

>>54675656
>he can't take it, his wargrear is listed seprarely

So the sergeant can't take an auto bolt rifle nor a stalker bolt rifle either?

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>Death Guard and Thousand Sons are getting their own 8th edition codexes

cool

>>54675591
>>54675591
Aspiring Champion leads normal squads
Chosen Champion leads Chosen squads
Exalted Champion is under the Chaos Lord.

It's something we needed long ago, now the infrastructure of a Warband makes much more sense.

If only they made Chaos Lords the equivalent of a Chapter Masters like they are suppose to be.

>>54675630
And you're a butthurt faggot.
And in what way does CSM fit alpha legion fluff better?
The ability to summon demons? Dinobots? Possessed? Cult units? The ability to take marks? Oblits and mutilators? All things the Alpha legion doesn't use?
And the idea that C:SM is soooo much better than CSM is laughable. In the case of a fluffy alpha legion list, they are using most of the same special rules and units.
Do you even play the game? Or are you just upset that people want to do something that you don't like because reasons?

>>54675648
Chaos can only win by plot armour, this is a known fact.

>>54675569
I don't think they care where you put the grenade launcher so long as there is one for every five models in the intercession squad.

>>54675638
Looks like skull-aquila

>>54675587
I get what you mean, but having someone go loyal and another traitor is just too much of a kick in the teeth for fans of that chapter/legion. But then again this is the company that killed fantasy without batting an eyelid.

>>54675588
Khan sounds like the one who would fit the bill for that. He never was terribly fond of the imperium but he knew his job

>>54675674
What about this looks like it has anything to do with The Rock you homo?

>>54675227
Well if Dangels come back to the imperium along with the Alpha legion comming back, that kinda waters down the concept.

>>54675361
>resculpts = new models
Wow guess kharn the betrayer was phased out then
>>54675575
Why did you have to use your venerables as venerables?

>>54675676
But they didn't advance in the movements phase the did it outside of a phase

>>54675698
Well it makes sense that he would be the next loyalist primarch.

>>54675638
>Vid Feed:// B50-AP/78903//M/h

What did they mean by this?

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>>54675638
What could it be?

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Imperial Eagle plus skull...Im going to guess Imperial Guard since their symbol is also a skull mixed with the aquila so this could easily be just an updated version of the same symbol.

>>54675687
Chaos already won the setting.

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>>54675710
>loyalist

>>54675718
Those are orks or Necrons

>>54675674
FIRES
OF
CYRAXUS

>>54675705
Because they look more ancient than a normal dreadnought? Its not like it mattered because one was blown skyhigh before I even got my first turn.

>>54675659
Doubt it's anything mechanicus or chaos with the aquila. Probably new Imperial Knights stuff. I imagine that's a really easy book for them to do.

>>54675679
Do you think TS get more units tho?

I would love some transports dedictaded to them. I want a TS only version of a droppod dammit

>>54675428
>a new god is an old god
Really floats my boat anon, GW should do a global campaign over Christmas to see how much Yvnead grows

>>54675600
>Who the fuck hired these guys? Where are their proofreaders?
Dare I say it?

The most playtested edition ever?!?!

>>54675515
More likely it's the Chapter Master equivalent CP upgrade.

>>54675732
Yeah ya got to get ever hopeful when you play non marine/demon chaos armies.

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>>54675638
Imperial stuff, again?!

>>54675727
No, chaos won already that's canon. Everyone else is just delaying the inevitable.

Fellblade at 2k with Girlyman? Retarded? Its T9 with a bunch of wounds but no Invun

>>54675683
>Alpha Legion doesn't use Chaos

You're free not to, but don't pretend they don't.
Alpha Legion will have their own Legion trait as well. Codex Space Marines has nithing iconic to the Alpha Legion that the Chaos Marine codex doesn't.

>>54675717
Guard symbol is a lion.

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>>54675717
FW are remaking Epic, it could be that

>>54675717
Yeah makes sense. Maybe the motor noise is hinting at a new Leman Russ kit.

>>54675717
What do you mean? The Adeptus Astartes are the ones with the skull-with-wings symbol not the Guard. That's supposed to be their special version of the Aquila.

>>54675630
>DoW memer
But the second game was good besides insinuating you become black legion if you became corrupted enough in the first trailer

Report for konor is niw up by the way. 51/49 in favor of chaos from what I can tell.
https://konor.warhammer40000.com

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>>54675716
>>54675717
Imperial Guard confirmed, ready up men! ITS TIME TO DIE STANDING!

>>54675753
How? 40k galaxy is Ork heaven and Necrons can hack the warp if they want to.
I mean if the pylons are of any importance to stopping chaos Necrons would be doing something else beside dicking around.

>>54675695
Oh I agree. It's all bullshit and won't happen. Those two just seemed the most likely of this impossible scenario.

>>54675752
As I chaos player I have felt sorry for myself for so long that I've straight up forgotten that each individual xenos faction has had a harder time than us. Man it sucks GW doesn't even pretend to balance their releases.

>>54675756
>Alpha Legion will have their own Legion trait as well.
Yeah, it's the RG one, and their stratagem is the RG stratagem. Which is why you are litteraly getting no better special rules from C:SM

>>54675706
Which doesn't fucking matter. "A unit that Advances cannot shoot or charge later that turn."

>>54675728

This is probably the correct answers. It seems the most probably of any.

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>>54675638
Battlefleet gothic, on the left side

>>54675768
I've always wanted to do a small gritty IG warband. Can a veteran player lend a helping hand?

>>54675752
If it makes you happy. It won't be SoB. The army so old that is legal across the world

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So guys, what the fuck is this?

>>54675613
No they don't, other than exploiting human cults they have no connect to chaos.
They're the only legion that didn't go in to the eye of terror after the heresy.

>but some of them fell to chaos anyway!
Not representative of the whole legion.

>>54675728
Won't happen until after AdMech get their Codex, so hope it's that.

>>54675782
That's just how it is anon. Chaos wins.
gw has too many chaosfags working for them

>>54675791
In the movement phase, assuming it is right what about stuff with scout like rules?
That are before turn one

>>54675789
Why use Codex Space Marines at all?

>>54675647
stop stealing my images from the jumpchain threads u dummy

>>54675754
Not worth it unless you regularly face three landraiders or equivalent points of heavy armour

>>54675805
The more I look at it the more it looks like a piece of a Titan.

>>54675687
Someone should go and count up all the points each store has put out, see if it adds up.

>>54675674
Terminus decree
The last wall strategem
The vaults of Titan 'why brother fights brother'
>>54675678
If it says 'the sergeant can take -bolt rifle, stalker bolt rifle' then he can but if not he can't

>>54675815
because someone feels the units in there are more fluffy? Why not?

>>54675143
if you plan to have everyone embark on the stormravens... badly

>>54675613
Alpha Legion can use Primaris since cawl tested it on every gene seed, they also get raptor marines or whatever the hell raven guards snowflake marines were called.

Can someone decode this: B50-AP/78903//M/h

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>>54675812

>>54675814
No, I quoted the exact line from the rulebook. That was all it said. It doesn't say "in the movement phase".

You Advance, you can't shoot/charge, without another special rule that says you can anyway. Period.

>>54675805
disregarding what it may be, what is the normal time between a tease and a reveal, based upon previous evidence?

>>54675805
Traitor guard, khorne flavor.

>>54675683
Alpha legion has been depicted as using Daemons and Daemon Engine in numerous short stories mongoliod.

>>54675683
Alpha Legion gets everything, CSM fags BTFO

PLEASE BE R&H OH UNJUST CHAOS GODS! BLESS ME WITH THY MUTANT!

>>54675824
>• All models in the unit may replace their bolt rifle with an auto bolt rifle or stalker bolt rifle.
>• For every five models in the unit, one may take an auxiliary grenade launcher.
>• The Intercessor Sergeant may take a power sword.

So that's a no on rifle upgrades for the Sergeant then. GW shouldn't lie on their models and give the sergeant an auto bolt rifle.

>>54675679
Still hoping the mortar is a generic tank
>>54675680
Sorry in 4th or 3rd they were all aspiring, and I think chaos lords should stay captain equivalents. Then our chapter master equivalent is an option where you can boost stats by one, but not in each one, or two for attacks and wounds. Kind of like 'points of magical items' for lords and heros in fantasy

>>54675800
Not seeing it

>>54675807
>other than exploiting human cults they have no connect to chaos.

Patently false.

>They're the only legion that didn't go in to the eye of terror after the heresy.

You don't need to go to the Eye of Terror to get involved with Chaos.

>>54675832
>because someone feels the units in there are more fluffy?

But they're not.

>Why not?

You have a codex, so don't try and power grab a better one yo scum.

>>54675834
>Alpha Legion can use Primaris

No they can't. Show me one source of them using Primaris Marines.

>>54675656
>>54675824
Wrong on both counts, if it says "all models in the unit" or "any model in the unit" the Sergeant can take those things because he is a model in the unit.

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>>54675800
Please be BFG, I've wanted to try the game but lack of models stopped me. I love 40k ship designs.

>>54675638
I was thinking maybe it's an ad for Necromunda: Underhive Wars but I checked the site and nothings changed there yet

>>54675836
>the lion
>having sex with men
>and a B50 Cawl pattern bolt pistol

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>>54675857
Cough cough

>>54675735
>asking for dropods rather than silver tower LoW/ terrain

I feel like Alpha Legion were given the exact same trait and stratagem as Raven Guard so you could play them counts-as with the Loyalist Codex using Raven Guard rules if you wanted to represent a sleeper cell that infiltrated a Loyalist chapter.

>>54675851
> all models in a unit
> sergeant is a model
> sergeant is in the unit
> sergeant can upgrade his rifle
Are you retarded

>>54675890
In fluff stealth wise alpha legion shits all over ravenguard

>>54675889
>silver tower LoW
Implying that it wouldn't be larger than the table?

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wat dis?

>>54675899
New Guard models

>>54675839
I'm asking about other stuff.
When shit has double movements either in the same turn or outside of the turn like scout moves.

I ask because this edition goes out of its way to say what you can't do

>>54675899
> Insert idea into new release
> Find 'evidence' to support you claim
> More stuff comes out that looks like it might be what you thought
> Thing comes out
> Fucking garbage release over-hyped and now you are depressed.

Why the fuck is no one talking about the "incoming transmission"

>>54675884
That's a huge jump. Like.... almost laughable.
Never mind how litteraly every other part of their armor is obviously a different mark. Never mind the background is these guys stuck on a daemon planet for thousands of years. The knee pad is similar so DAY PRIMARIS!!!!1!!!
You are somewhere on the fucking spectrum

Does anyone know how the repulsor compares to a land raider sizewise. Need to know for reasons..

Aside from what it probably is... what do you hope it is?
Personally I'm all for R&H or dark mechanicum.

>>54675927
Are you actually retarded

>>54675858
>>54675892
That used to be GW's grammar style, ask the community page now that's a thing

>>54675916
It literally doesn't matter, read the rules.

If it's outside the turn then how could it affect you in a later turn?

If it's inside the turn then it applies, doesn't matter if it was in the Movement phase.

Holy shit this is so simple.

>>54675939
Not Chaos-y enough

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>>54675884
Splutter wheeze

>>54675132
The grain is fine. Gives it the gruff IW look brother.

Iron within

>>54675897
I didn't say it was the whole tower anon, and it's chaos so all changes on your perception
>>54675939
Necromunda so people stop complaining about shadow war

Barely anyone played BFG, why would GW update it?

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>>54675884
>different helmet
>different backpack
>different abdominal plates
>different breastplate
>no tassets
>different guns
>"Hey, guys, the knee pads. Trust me, I'm a babby who doesn't know shit, so I must be right."

>>54675950
I was thinking since it was a guard symbol (the aquila) morphed into a skull (an imperial symbol too but also chaos) it could be traitor guard. But alas probably not.

>>54675947
No. That's not even what "grammar" means and there's no such thing as a "grammar style", you're just retarded.

If it says "all Intercessors may take X" then the Intercessor Sergeant may not.

If it says ALL MODELS then he can because he is one of those models.

This is as clearcut as it gets.

>>54675947
Nah I'll use common sense. If an autist wants to argue whether or not i can I now never to play them. And then I'll call them retarded to their faces and dare them to do something about it

>>54675899
They tried to make it look like a skull. But I can't unsee a great big pair of bollocks on this bird.

>>54675949
Because it is horribly written

>>54675679
didnt the previous Tsons codex come out like a year ago?

lmao at getting the privilege to buy it again (i also hope you guys bought the index and the new csm codex)

How can I model the Aux Grenade Launcher on my Intercessors?

I'm not spending £35 on a box just for a couple of bitz

>>54675969
Skulls are far more of an Imperial symbol. Chaos skulls are usually demonic with horns or fangs.

That said the wings on this aquila are downturned as if it's falling. So I won't rule out a renegade release.

>>54675574
>why didn't you just buy female skittari torsos

Do you know of a solid option for this anywhere?

the cheesecakeier the better

>>54675973
>no such thing as grammar style
Okay writing style you faggot, and yes grammar style can be a thing due to how certain authors words their sentences, but unfortunately this is nowhere near as common as it was in the language of epics, Latin.

>>54675477
dude, RAW is entirely clear here. it's one additional attack per phase.

>you make one additional attack which refers to their ATTACK characteristic
it says you can make one additional attack per phase. if you'd do it again on the second go-around, you would have made two additional attacks per phase.

this is clear as hell. whether that is RAI is a completely different thing.

>>54675892
But anon said that if it doesn't specifically say that sergeant can have it, then he can't. He even illustrated this point bu saying the sergeant can't have a grenade launcher because he had his own options.

Who am I, or the codex, to argue with his logic?

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>Alpha Legion can only be played pro-chaos
>Cannot be played as pro-Imperium ever

imagine them being able to effectively be a Xenos and being able to help out either faction

that'd make playing them interesting

>>54675638
i feel zero hype from this

>>54675983
They're as likely to buy the codex as blood and dark angels are

>>54675980
What is horribly written? It literally says "A unit that Advances cannot shoot or charge later in that turn". So, did you Advance this turn, at any point before shooting or charging? Then you can't do it. Did you not Advance? Then you can. It's completely unambiguous, you're just fucking stupid.

>>54676010
Their 'teasers' aren't long enough to even be that, this is nothing really.

>>54676009
So the same as Cypher and the Fallen then?

>>54676009
>effectively Xenos
You've heard of the cabal right

>>54675997
You're a pathetic loser.

>>54676030

yes, that's my point

>>54676006
Once again, in real life, I would would mock you, call you retarded, and wait to see what you would do about it.

>>54676029
>Cypher
He dindu nuffin
>fallen
They warlords n shiet

>>54676004
RAW you're correct but GW facebook already clarified that RAI is for it to stack with extra chances to fight. Errata will correct it.

>>54676009
Play using codex Space Marines (RAVEN GUARD) when wanting to be a loyalist

Play using codex Chaos Space Marines (ALPHA LEGION) when wanting to be a traitor

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/03/incoming-transmission-b50-ap78903mh-aug-3gw-homepage-post-4/

What could it be?

>>54676042
so you're not doing a roll off like they say in the rulebook

>>54676051
This.

I heard somewhere that Konor uses the 7e style Daemon summoning rules. Is this true?

>>54675943
Nigger i dont see any discussion of it, i see shitposting and butthurt only

>>54675899
I hope it'll be a seperate faction for the dark imperium part that no longer sees the light of the astronomican

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>>54675997

>>54676065
No. Nothing uses 7e style daemon summoning rules because those are psychic powers that don't exist anymore or could even work in the new psychic phase at all.

>>54676004
>RAW
this ruleset isnt RAW, its been demonstrated by GW countless times
you should really know by now

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>>54675899
Primaris Astra Militarum.

>>54675638
the icon for the blog entry contains the string
>ad4/435/c:da
ad 4 codex: dark angels?

>>54676042
Probably keep pointing out the absolutely flawless logic at display. I mean, sure, the codex says "any model", but anon is adamant that the sergeant can't have upgrades that don't specifically name him, so...

Could the new teaser be for Imperium Nihilus? A secession or some shit as a result of the tear?

>>54676055
Last (You).
I'll roll off if it's ambiguous. This isn't ambiguous.
I can almost see you rolls of neck fat and smell your stench from here.
G8 B8 M8

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Here's to hoping for a good dark eldar codex

>>54676053
Not sure, post it 20 more times and maybe we'll figure it out.

>>54676081
>Primaris Astra Militarum.

Finally something good to put in my Valks!

>>54675966
does he have a third eye?

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>>54676081
>2W
>2A
>Better Gun

I present Primaris Guardsmen

>>54676114
Arco-fags are Primaris church units

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>>54676097
That'd be nice. We did get a pretty respectable index though, which is twofold good; means we have something solid to play while we wait and means that our eventual Codex should be even better, as I'm hoping none of them will swing the nerfbat too hard.

>>54676114

Make them troop slot and we have a deal.

>>54675953
>doesn't actually address any of the points
really gets the neurons firing

>>54675569

Yes, he can take it. He is a model in the unit and the only requirement in the entry is that the one taking it be a model in the unit.

If only the squaddies could take it it would say "for every 5 models in the unit one intercessor may..." which would exclude him since he's an intercessor sergeant not an intercessor.

>>54676102
>he thinks they'd be allowed in existing transports
point at him. point at him and laugh

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>>54676085

>>54675955
You think so? Everyone keeps pointing it out and I'm considering stripping to start again. I used Tamiya Primer and not sure if it's supposed to look that grainy or not

>>54676130
What points?

http://warhammer-community.com/B50-AP/78903//M/h

Lol.

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>been waiting for that sweet rak'gol army for years
>finally hints of a new faction
>it's imperium again

Goddamnit stop buying imperium reee

>>54676009

My local store is letting me play them as xenos so I can give points to either side during Konor.

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Question for anybody that has built the Repulsor tank: Is there any alternative for the missile pods atop the doors? They look like shite.

>>54676077

I'm building a pinup admech army mostly out of their stuff.

Their vanguard/ranger models are three pounds of pain in my add to covert to troops though so in looking for other options on that front.

>>54676132
Shhh anon.
Quit taking the bait. It's not worth it

>>54676171
Squats confirmed

>>54676174
>shitty FFG fanfiction
Please go and stay go.

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>>54676085
Well looks like the rock is opening
get hype lads

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/03/the-fate-of-konor-week-1-results/