Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

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>>54671543
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

>NLfags think they're scary
>my army is completely fearless
lmao, how can winglets even compete?

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How much of your army is painted?

You do paint your miniatures, dont you

>>54671557
>Still trying this hard

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Are we getting a codex so soon just to get us out of the way? It's GW & there WILL be power creep, but unlike the blueberries, we ain't getting many supplements to keep us going.

So how are the new rules for 8th working out? I haven't played 40K in ages but got the First Strike starter to at least paint up some Primaris marines.

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>>54671565
>t. asshurt winglet

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How's this for an Iron Hands list?

Posting this in new thread.

How do you guys use your Chosen and have they pulled their weight in the games you played with them?

>>54671575
>mentions asshurt
Did the Azarel go in dry on the day you were inducted to the inner circle?

>>54671590
I wouldn't know.

They rarely get chosen in my lists.

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>>54671564
The Wario Marines are coming along nicely, 6 out of the the Dark Imperium set actually finished.

>>54671582
Rock'emSock'em Robots/10

>>54671582
Where yer troops

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What types of Aeldari units would you use to make a Pre-Fall Eldar Empire army?

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>>54671595
No, he just MACED a winglet he captured in the Rock instead

>>54671609
Vanguard detachment doesn't require troops.

Is there a Datasheet generator/ template out there?

>>54671604
What purple do you use and what do you base with?

>>54671590
Havocs are better

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>>54671564
Have most of my Guard painted.

>>54671619
Well then, go make them dead.
Iron within, iron without brother
:^)

>>54671612
So winglet is what Azarel calls you in private?

>>54671612
Nice bathrobe.

>>54671627
Looks like Xereus purple over white.

>>54671590
Combibolter ones are good shooters.

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>>54671564
I've done a bit more since this pic, so a fair amount is painted, but I'm putting together some more burnas, lootas and tankbusters later, so those will all need to be painted up.

Working on my GSC as well, two deathwatch overkill boxes, a box of Neophytes and two Chimeras. Neophytes are almost all done (except the cult guardsmen that came with one chimera), so I only have a few aberrants and acolytes to finish up. I'll probably take a pick of them when I'm about to do a battle, since I'll need nearly all of them to field a decent force.

Honestly, I paint in spurts everytime I start playing again. A few back in 2nd ed, a big group back in 5th, and a lot of stuff getting finished up now. I might actually catch up if I stop buying shit.

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>>54671642
Nah, it's what he calls little manlet kiddies like you. Although if you prefer we can arrange for you to be HAMMERED instead.
>>54671643
Thanks bby <3

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>tfw brushlets will never know how fun, fast and easy it is to paint an army with an airbrush
>brushlets will never know these silky smooth transitions

> Painting my scions.
> Want to build a valkyrie too.
> SUDDEN URGE TO FORTIFY AND PAINT IMPERIAL FISTS.

Holy fuck, why the sudden urge to paint yellow. And I mean manlet IF, not even primarines.

>>54671590
Power axes, and a pair of LC on the champ. d in some chainsword chaff and a rhino, and they do the business.

alternatively you can give them special weapons, and get an extra one over havoks. if you give them flamers, give the rest of the squad chainsword, and kick some arse

>>54671627
See
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>>54671582
What app is this

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>>54671661
It wasn't a compliment.

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>>54671564

A decent amount, though a lot of it is old.

Just dragging this from the other thread, talking about global campaign general

>>54671626
I just want to see the Global campaign have repercussions.

It's cool that the story has (finally) shifted in time-line, and action is once again upon us. And thank the gods for a global campaign (I remember playing in them every other summer, back when I started), but I want to see the campaign impact the world.

Last global was the defense of Cadia in the Eye of Terror global campaign. Imperium won, and Cadia was left alone. But it's stagnate when the Imperium wins, Chaos is the one who creates friction and movement in the story.

I want to see Chaos win so we can clearly see the impact that happens /because of games we played/. If Imperium wins, status quo is maintained and the "did it matter?" is so much more abundant. Unless there is some massive outcome in the possitive for the Imperium from this event when they win. But simply defending and protecting a system (No matter how important) just creates a feeling that the battles we submitted never mattered, despite that the "outcome" was aligned with the winning results.

>>54671590
I'm looking to break out my plasma chosen and use the AL strategum thingy to get them up close for T1 double tap.

Quick question, can you use the same strategum multiple times or just once? Would like to have more than one squad showing up super close T1

Is there any proof of The Rock being a gay club. like is there an interview or something

>>54671712
> AL strategum thingy
what stratigum?

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>>54671695
Ok winglet :^)

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Thoughts?

>>54671717
Their strategum is apparently a copy of the RG according to the translations from a leak in spanish

>>54671720
Raven Guard and Alpha Legion actually, fag.

>>54671729
I miss the shitty pic builder

>>54671633
Do you not trim ur flash?

>>54671708
Chaos wins = make konor a daemon world. Ultras bit mad. I doubt much would happen if chaos somehow actually won.

>>54671712
Havocs work better desu.

The infiltrate one can be used more than once though.

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>>54671737
>being a sneaklet
You act like this is any better.

>>54671742
F

>>54671757
Nothing you say matters, traitor. I only listen to loyal legions.

>>54671611
dark eldar anything

>>54671708
>I want to see Chaos win so we can clearly see the impact that happens /because of games we played/

We're fighting over a planet that was just introduced to the fluff. Either side taking it is completely, 100% meaningless.

>>54671757
You chapter master is a manlet, now what?

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>>54671761
>le alpha legion are loyal xd
So a sneaklet and a 1d4chanlet. Many such cases! Sad!
>>54671770
Nah he's a big guy (4u)

>>54671745
I suppose. It would be just as disappointing, maybe more so, to have a meaningless story change thrown at us in that event.

But I want either victory to actually have a tangible impact on something. Something to show for the community coming together and playing games, and supporting the hobby.

>>54671775
Gay and speak only in memes. God you're an insufferable traitor.

>>54671795
Even if we follow your 1d4let meme you stopped being """loyalists""" after your primarch died. Truly, traitors in denial are a sad thing to watch.

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New night lords player here who is entirely interested in the rules and doesn't give a fuck about the fluff and will probably drop night lords after 4 games where I don't get much work out of the morale meme.

>>54671803
No need to project, just been over and think of the Rock.

>>54671611
None, everything in the product range of craftworlds, harlequins and dark eldar is distinctively post fall. You'd have to kitbash heavily with some whfb units probably.

>Some faggot giving deathwing a bad name

fuck off

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>>54671810
In the closet and speak only in memes. God you're an insufferable traitlet

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>>54671744
Didn't remove moldlines because no one told me to before I started paining. As such I wound up with ~100 Guardsman primed but no moldlines removed, and fuck if I'm going to redo them all.

>>54671806
what is happening in this image

>>54671734
Proofs?

>>54671821
All that projection. Truly DA are the worst.

>>54671823
it's a video bro

>>54671820
>implying we care about PR
Lad, we're basically the last faction to care about the PR department.

God I hope orks are before the end of the year

We are the most iconic enemy in 40k after all

>>54671766
Yeah, I guess if it's all just "this planet and STORY STUFFF" or whatever. Like all just meaningless text they write into the game because of the campaign.

I dunno. I suppose GW isn't going to be restructured or different enough that they are doing something radical like introducing a named character, or miniature. Or an item or something, even if it could only be used in non-Matched play. And with their more free-friendly mind-set, they could easily offer free rules to allow players to have random characters added to their imperial or chaos armies. Or an item or battlezone effect.

Granted there are weekly missions, with stratagems being issued, so at least there is that, which I suppose could be compiled into a little booklet for "reliving" the campaign.

But just.. I dunno. I mean Wyrd miniatures offers "alternative" sculpts for the winning faction of their yearly global campaigns. GW could do cool little character models to commemorate each year, or something.

>>54671777
Yeah they learnt their lesson with EoT campaign. This one is more like the even more ancient Ichar V campaign.

>>54671543
So /40kg/, I want some feedback on my homebrew Imperial Guard Regiment:

The 41st (Insert name here) Toxin Troopers

The Toxin Trooper's homeworld is located within the Ultramar system, and was originally one of the 500 worlds once under its domain. For centuries, it weathered the threats of the galaxy, the omni-present Ultramarines always there to help protect and keep order on the small rainy planet; The planet, classified as a civilized world, produced both food and manufactured goods to the rest of the sector and beyond.

This peaceful and productive world however, gained the Ire of nurgle for its peaceful, stormy glades and happy workforce offended the pestilent plague god. Thus, when the Plague Wars struck the Ultramar system, this little planet became a prime target for the marauding warbands of the Death Guard. With the Ultramarine's defences wearing thin, few units could be rallied to defend the world, leaving it's fates in the hands of its people. For years, the weak PDF suffered at the hands of Nurgle; Their world quickly transformed into a horrid matt of sickly vegetation and poisonous air, the bedraggled population fighting to the last, for they knew there was no surrender. It was by some miracle of the Emperor that they held out till the return of Lord Guilliman, and the bolstering of a relief fleet of veteran Imperial guardsmen.

With the tides turning, the PDF, their moral returned by a speech directly from Guilliman, began a heavy assault focused on purging the Death Guard forces once and for all. And with the need of their might needed else where, and the world mostly ruined, the heretic Astartes were content to let them have their polluted planet, before grumbling away in a sloppy retreat.

>>54671810
>Salty gay in robes all over the board
>Think he's funny because chad cocks make him happy

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>>54671833
All that projection. Truly Traitlets are the worst.

I keep trying to fill the void in my life with overpriced plastic models but it isn't working. I never have any time or energy to play with my toys. I'm a horrible painter it seems no matter how much I practice. I had nerve development issues as a child but that's no excuse. It feels so awful that my 15 year old collection of manlet marines are just about invalidated. It may be years I guess before they are fully phased out, but this hit me harder than I ever expected. I can't even sell my old collection any more, because nobody will want to buy 200+ old micromarine models. I didn't want to be upset about this and I actually like some of the new models, except for lazy design in a few places, but it hurts to know my old models are now nothing. Worse than nothing, since they are still taking up space. I want to be able to play. I want to be less stressed from work. I want to have friends. I want to not be so ugly it hurts to look in the mirror.

>>54671839

The last time GW had us fighting over a named planet, namely Cadia, they retconned the whole result so it turned out the way GW wanted. GW simply isn't going to turn the direction of the fluff over to us, fun as that might be.

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>>54671557
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>>54671803

Not even half an hour in and the thread is being shitted up by faggot autismotrons.

>>54671859
post discussion, oh wait you didn't

>>54671856
Sweet blog dude

>>54671845
Awww, the traitlet is upset! Boo hoo!

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Ignore autists, post your models

>>54671850
They sure are, traitor.

Alright so now that we know that NL+Demons+DG can pull -8 LD against everything what are the best ways to deploy team freddy kruger and scare your enemies to death?

>>54671834
Yes I understand that, let me rephrase

what is happening in this video

>>54671858
One can dream.

They've certainly been heading in the right direction as a community supportive brand. In the right hands, there is no reason they couldn't let the fluff be at least partially driven by player results.

>>54671850
>refers to everything as 'lets'
>let
>Le t.
>t. Le
Reddit fag confirmed

>>54671879
I don't really know anything about handegg but one of the refs goes running off after the play and then from the direction he ran a yellow guy comes running in and starts a massive brawl. I assume the ref is Erebus and the yellow guy is Horus

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>>54671872
Why are you referring to yourself in third person, Traitlet?

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>>54671888
Shhh, no memes now, only dreams.

>>54671884
What happen in the medusa V campaign, will probably be similar to this one.

>>54671823

Fake ref runs on the field and starts streaking, while all the attention is on the streaker, players start pushing each other and a line brawl starts

>>54671890
I'm not.

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>>54671890
If youre going to shitpost with deathwing pictures at least prove that you play them

>>54671870
Nice, Hobby-bro up at the FLGS was discussing painting his Plagues up in that scheme after seeing it in the latest WD.

Said he was going to go with more Brown armor with Silver trim though, or try out something along that lines instead.

Looks good though.

>>54671870
No, every time I do a paint job I'm proud of I take a picture and all of my errors are brought into horrible focus.

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>>54671910
Now now my dear traitlet, no need to deflect the blame.
>>54671912
>black armor
What's it like being a half traitlet?

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>>54671841
Still, the formative "Toxin Troopers" Learned well as they enacted their revenge upon the slower Nurglites they could catch. Years of dealing with the horrid plagues of Nurgle had hardened the survivors from his viral infections, and taught them ways to counter the Death Guard's tactics and unnatural durability. They became masters of mechanized warfare, striking fast and furiously, before retreating from the slower Plague Warriors. They also began to employ higher amounts of both blessed Flamers and Chemical weaponry designed to kill off the disgusting life of nurgle.

To cement their expertise, they have even donned a partial semblance to their enemy's color; Their cloaks the peelish green, they were originally used to hide themselves in the swirling green fogs left in the wake of their foes. Now, they wear it as a badge of honor, showing their homeworlds strength, at the cost of some minor friendly fire.

A mixed regiment, the Tox Trooper's are formed mostly of veterans of their own war, who lost loved ones to the horrible diseases. They now strike out upon the stars, seeking to enact revenge on their tormentors, and perhaps find a new homeworld, untouched by the blight of the accursed grandfather.

Now all I need is a name for their planet!

Pic related is the mini's I am going to use for my troopers. Their robes are going to be painted death guard green, their armor Waagh Green, and their lenses Red, their lasguns gunmetal grey.

>>54671890
>Being this retarded

>>54671874
What do daemons have that subs ld?

Fuck Belisarius Cawl and fuck the Imperium. Adeptus Mechanicus empire when

>>54671943
Be'lakor

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>>54671939
Not a traitlet sorry. I can't hear from down there.

>>54671951

Never, no one likes the admech

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>>54671870
Current wip. Getting base coats ready

>>54671967
Nice claws

>>54671954
>calls everyone traitlet
>spergs pics of danglets

Week 1 of Konor is done. Imperium won. Why aren't you guys celebrating?

It was a clutch victory!

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>>54671982
What's wrong anon? Are we too big of guys for you?

>>54671979

Thanks, though they're literally the ones that come with the plastic kit. I have axes on the way, though.

>>54672003
I just like lightning claws in general, good choice

>>54671998
3fag5me

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>>54671984
I'm happy Imperium won. Not because I like them more, but because every chaos player turns into a dickbag when they win.

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>>54672010
It's ok anon, we have anonymous gloryholes in the Rock too. No one will ever know the truth.

>>54672016
Sounds like a bit of projection you've got going on there familiam

>>54672016
What is this shit?

Since the Black Legion consists of people from every legion and warband, why can't you take Black Legion Rubricae/Scarabs?

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So much Chaos infighting in this thread.

Malal would be proud.

Anyway, this was the rumour engine post from yesterday. Any ideas on what it is? Looks like codex art to me.

Also it's Nightlets, not Winglets you fucking dweebs.

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>>54671986
>Adding a"Us" to the end
>Toxicus Troopers

I fucking love it anon! Anyways, have a pic of what I'm going to use as a Leman Russ. I wanted something a bit more blocky, yet imposing. Something that can really squish the bloaties.

>>54672033
You can. In an allied detachment of thousand sons.

>>54672033
Just because there are members of every group doesn't mean they're going to share out all their best stuff.

>>54672033
Nigga what?
Black legion is just sons of horus with a new coat of paint

>>54672033
You can take anything with the chaos keyword in one army. Its like imperium

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>>54672027
What is what?

>>54672025
It's an opinion based post, and you're complaining about it being opinionated....

Yes, every chaos player I've met has turned into a dickbag at any sleight advantage/win they get.

>>54672059
nope, read talon of horus.

Tried posting this yesterday, didn't get much feedback due to usual autism

Raven Guard, 1987/ 2000 points

HQ

Primaris Captain [6 PL, 96pts]
>Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle, Power sword

Primaris Librarian [7 PL, 105pts]

Troops

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 104pts]
>4x Intercessor, Bolt rifle, 1 Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
>Intercessor Sergeant Power sword

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 104pts]
>4x Intercessor, Bolt rifle, 1 Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
>Intercessor Sergeant Power sword

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 104pts]
>4x Intercessor, Bolt rifle, 1 Auxiliary Grenade Launcher
>Intercessor Sergeant Power sword

Elites

Aggressor Squad x6 [12 PL, 262pts]
>Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 202pts]
>2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon

Reiver Squad [10 PL, 200pts]
>Combat knife, Grav Chutes

Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
>Combat knife, Grav Chutes

Heavy Support

Hellblaster Squad [16 PL, 330pts]

>Plasma incinerator
Las Pred [9 PL, 190pts]

Las Pred [9 PL, 190pts]

>>54672059
HORUS WAS WEAK

HOURS WAS A FOOL

>>54672060
Awesome. So I shouldn't regret priming all of my TSons with black paint.

>>54672059
Lore-wise you're wrong.

>>54672064
Are you sure that's not just the normal reaction people have to meeting you? :^)

>>54672071
Hours was a great album fug u

What's with those sparks on Night Lords armor?

>>54672088
kek

>>54672033
The Black Legion is made up of all the warbands and legions in the eye. If you check the Black Legion supplement I believe it even has a paint scheme that includes rubrics for a TSons contingent of the BL.

>>54672009

Oh, me too. I'm stoked that NL kept the Claws of the Black Hunt, which gives me an excuse to run a double LC lord. As for the termies, I'm going to see how Claws workout, though with 10 Termies, you need to cut where you can.

>>54672091
I recall an attempt to make the lighting not be painted on fluff wise, however, people thought it was too goofy, and I have seen no mention of it again.

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>Emp's Children
>Noise marines x 10, sonic blasters
>40 S4 shots, 3S4/model upon death
>20 A, always strike first
>mfw things shall get loud now

>>54672120
Get loud for anyone below 6'2 you mean

>>54672102
I'm pretty sure it hasn't. It was in older stuff, where TS rubric had a black pauldron.

>>54672071
>Horus beat the Emperor. Abaddon beat Horus. Thus, by the transitive property, Abaddon is stronger than the Emperor.
>Abaddon used the Black Crusades as cover to prepare to destroy Cadia, thus outwitting Creed on multiple levels.
>Abaddon doesn't need to worry about recruits as other legions do - he simply convinces the grunts of every other legion to join him.
>Abaddon holds a Daemon of Chaos Undivided as a weapon - surpassing the domain of the Four Gods.

Why is Abaddon so based?

>>54672086
(you)

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>>54672158
you tell me

>>54672120
Don't forget that your champ gets 1 more attack naturally and could take a chainsword (or two) if you wanted even more

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What Chapter tactics best fit the Magpies?

Ultramarines because they're Codex-lovers?

Or maybe Salamanders because of their high quantity of master-crafted 'gifts'
Was considering painting and modelling a bunch of guys to be clearly wielding weapons from other chapters to match this

>>54672167
>jappo orientation
Disgusting

>>54672158
>Horus 'wins' against the emperor. (Still loses anyways)
>Abbadon beats a shitty clone of Horus that wasn't buffed while Abbadon was.

>>54672184
Ultramarines.

Blood ravens aren't especially known for their high quality flame/melta weapons. It would come off as done for the sake of min-maxing rather than any kind of flavour.

Ultramarine chapter tactics are fuckin gr8 too

>>54672184
Not just gifting yourself whichever tactic you want

Are you even a magpie?

>>54672191
where do you think you are?

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Time to flame this thread

>>54672200
/tg/. Are you sure you wouldn't prefer /garbagecan/?

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>>54672206
Oscar you can go live in garbage can if you want

I non-sarcastically like and want to play Blood Ravens.

Does this make me THAT guy?

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Opinions?

>>54672120

Do chaos marines have filthy unclean hair or do they take care of it properly?
Surely Fulgrim shampooed and conditioned regularly

>>54672212
lol so butthurt

>>54671570
>Are we getting a codex so soon just to get us out of the way?
I originally thought it was to release new GK Primaris for you guys since you are the only Space Marine faction with no access to the new Primaris stuff, but now that we know there are no new models coming with the book it looks like it really is just to get you out of the way to be ignored for another 4 years.

Sorry bro.

>>54671570
Ah yes, I wonder if Supplement Enclaves will be rolled into one Tau dex.
GW likes to release things for Tau so it'll be fun to watch

>>54672206
>he doesn't know about /trash/
Embarrassing

>>54672254
>still butthurt

>>54671766
>We're fighting over a planet that was just introduced to the fluff.
Konor has been listed as being in Ultramar since at LEAST as far back as 3rd ed.

To be fair it was never really fleshed out more than being the main AdMech world of Ultramar, but they didn't conjure it out of thin air for this campaign.

40 minutes to go and the Imperium has won in a clean sweep.

How disappointing.

>>54672228
>now that we know there are no new models coming with the book
Mind sourcing this?

>>54672228
GK have no Primaris cus they aren't supposed to exist.

But you could model them.

>>54672260
Not who you were talking to I'm afraid

>>54672277
Which means I got two for one lol

>>54672282
Ok kiddo

>>54672038
I'm almost certain it's a Nurgle Daemon of some sort, probably a GUO.

Would be pleasantly surprised to find out its like an Ork squig or a Tyranid but something about it says Nurgle.

>>54672284
Yeah, the amount of mucus makes me think Nurgle. The jaw makes me think Orks.

>>54672271
They would have been teased or announced already, either on the site or the White Dwarf. We have teasers of Death Guard stuff that is still a month out. Also they're releasing the GK and CSM codexes at the same time, which is pretty much a sure sign it's not coming with any new models. The pattern so far seems to be codexes with models get standalone releases, codexes with no models get dual-releases.

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>>54672267
>doubting ULTRAmarines

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Can anyone post a size comparison pic with a reiver and a normal marine torso pls?

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>>54672218
Nothing wrong with the Ravens

I just ordered Gabe for mine

>>54672313
>the pattern so far
we only got One (1) Codex so far, how is that a pattern

>>54672038
My guess is that's one of the Nurgle creatures shown in the bottom left of picture with Mortarion and Guilleman.

>people sperg over using new csm buff spell on dp for s8 attacks with talons
>khorne dp of chaos does this every charge or being charged already
Whats the big deal?

>>54672334
We know the first four launching. 1 is out, came with new models, the 4th is coming out alone next, has new models, and 2 and 3 are releasing at the same time right now, with no sign of new models. The pattern has now been established.

>>54672334
because of retardation

>>54672347
Unlike the waste of space DP of Khorne, we also get to smite in our psychic phase

>>54672218
As far as non-homemade chapters go, Blood Ravens are pretty cool

>>54672356
>>54672334
>>54672271
If you guys are mad you're not getting new model releases you can just say so instead of acting like assholes to the guy pointing out why it's the logical conclusion.

Are fusion blasters worth taking on my stealth suits? also are piranhas as good as they look on paper?

>>54672359
Ok but you need another spellcaster to buff him that could be smiting or using something else, you are still down a cast. Plys unlike khorne one its not automatic.

>>54672347
Cast the buff on a Khorne DP. :)

>>54672315
>neophyte in a mining suit made for normal-sized man is taller than the manlet marine
Holy fucking shit, how can anyone take those things seriously anymore.

There's seriously still people who think marinelets aren't going to get squatted in the next year?

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>>54672324
Going to wait before ordering him, I think. His rules are kind of shitty and I'm waiting for someone to convert his stupid head.

>>54672199
>It would come off as done for the sake of min-maxing rather than any kind of flavour.

Wait, are Salamanders super good now?

>>54672385
The chaos dp isnt heretic astartes, casting it on a heretic astartes dp gets you s8 with one more attack relative to chaos version, just you are functionally down 2 spells and can be denied now.

>>54672369
sorry anon

>>54672397
The smart money is on them having the best chapter tactics. Anyone who tells you its Raven Guard is a noob who easily falls for internet hype.

>>54672369
I asked him to source it because I wanted to know if there was actually official word one way or the other because I like reading 40k news.

I do not play GK's.

>>54672414

Well praise Vulkan then because they've always been my favorite chapter. Fuck yea maybe I should get back into 40K.

>>54671611

Dark Eldar but cut off the spikes.

>>54671766
>just introduced

Konor has been around since the index astartes days of 2001.

>>54672384
>He doesn't have casters coming out of his ass
How will khornelets even compete?

>>54672419
Big thing to be aware of is that flamers rock but blasts got nerfed compared to last edition.

>>54672033
But you can take black legion rubicae at least, the Elites version lets you pick a <legion> for them. Well, unless the codex removes that option, of course.

>>54672038
I wonder if that's the rumoured nurgle big monster, the one in the bottom left of that artwork with morty.

>>54672416
No, nothing official. Just deduction based on what GW has said + what is known to come out. Perhaps the most telling thing is that GHB is due out this month. Once the GK/CSm codex drops on the 12, we have 2 weekends for the GH to drop. It is possible we see a 1 week release for both GK and CSM on the week of the 19th assuming GHB drops on the 26th. Now if the GHB goes on preorder on the 12th and drops on the 19th, then any hope of a model release accompanying these books dies

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>>54671543
What does /tg/ think of my old lady's first attempt at a showcase model? Plasma coils and lenses needs to be painted, but how's it looking so far?

>>54672377
Eh
Depends what you want to do with them

>>54672414
Sure thing, bro.

>>54672429
Then why do you care about one smite? Either way cost is the same in terms of lost casts, only difference is denies and peril risks.

>>54672429
By fighting three times.

>>54672446
>t. guy who said conscripts were a meme that would never be good at actual tournaments

>>54672450
Because I get to smite and you don't and it feels soooooooooo good :^)

>>54672454
I never said that cus it was dumb to say.

Besides wouldn't that be the same as saying RG won't be the aces?

>>54672267
Still 5 more planets to fight for!

Who am I kidding, chaos ain't winning shit if they can't win while every xenos player carries them.

>>54671611
Harlequins painted in simple ways; DEldar with the spikes filed down and an even heavier focus on Blast weapons, and no Covens; Craftworld Aeldari minus any Wraith unit.

>>54672439
3/10
she needs some practice

>>54672468
w8 4 teh codex faithless bitch!

>>54672466
But we get equal smites, im undivided!

>>54672468
Who's the npc now fuckers

>>54672468
Imperial vs imperial is the majority of matches isnt it? Its hardly our fault space marines are so popular.

>>54672467
No, because only the smart players realized conscripts were broken at first, and only the smart players right now realize that salamanders are the best chapter.

>>54672439
Looking pretty good so far. One thing to look out for is the wash pooling, on the tail wing decoration for example. Don't be afraid to remove excess wash from the model with another brush if you see that happening.

>>54672363
Fucking Thousand Sons...

>>54672492
Keep telling yourself that bud.

Shame Rapiers don't get tactics. That'd be nasty.

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would the angry marines participate in deathwatch?

>>54672218
Also their color scheme is pretty good and you can use practically any other chapters bits due to the "gifts" they happen to receive and it's cool.

RG is good against shooting but Sals is good all the time and is never useless

>>54672486

Fortunately I play a PC Xenos
Watch out Imperium

>>54672513
Find out if you can get Raw Booty's sword (arm) on the cheap.

>>54672521
RG's real strength is the infiltrate. Though AL may do it better with plashavocs.

>>54672521
>PC xenos
Silly man.
Unless they released elftramarines when I wasn't looking.

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>>54672521
>xenos
>not NPCs

Hey guys, I wanna make an elite themed Ravenguard list with terminators and vanguard veterans for this week- Any idea if it's workable and what should I bring if it is?

>>54672543
>tfw play xenos and chaos
>tfw these both partially apply to me anyways

>>54672493
Alrighty, thanks! She's pretty excited that her art degree will actually come in handy.

Tangential question; how would go about getting Celestine to have a "metallic black" coloring to her armor? Should I do black with a dry brush of leadbelcher, similar to how one of my buddies does his Iron Hands?

>>54672315

>Primaris the same height as a Custodes

How the hell did they manage to fuck up this hard? Did nobody in the studio stop to think about what they were doing?

>>54672536
>>54672543

Chaos please, you can't pull your weight so don't burn bridges

>>54672566
Custodes are undersized is the issue.

>>54672566
What are you sperging about?

>>54672536
Eldar, Tau, and Necrons are PC

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New to Dark Eldar, did they ever have the option to mount characters on jetbikes or the Hellion hoverboards?

>>54672582

Custodes are a head taller than a space marine, which is exactly right.

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>>54672572
I like the idea of Chaos, but their models are complete garbage so I don't want to play them. They're just shitier/uglier Marines.

The only good models that have are cultists. (TSons look decent. DG don't look awful.)

>>54672388
What kind of dumbass thinks they'd kill off their main source of income? Normal and Primaris play vastly different and each have weaknesses, by all means they are independent of each other. I know it can be hard for you brainlets to think but in which world would it make business sense to completely remove a model line with the most players and units available just to replace it with babies first army with the depth of a puddle?

>>54672595
But Marines were undersized.

>>54672600
So use normal marines with shoulders?

>>54672440
Infiltrate and be a pain in the ass as soon as possible

>>54672591
Yes, five editions ago and it was glorious.

>>54672614

>Marines were undersized

Ah, so you're a "truescale" autist then?

Plastic baseline humans were oversized, the other races were correct. Everyone knows this.

>>54672560
You could do leadbelcher + a couple of layers of nuln oil gloss

>>54672644
Damn. I'd really like a Succy on a bike to keep up with my Reavers; it feels weird that she needs a Venom or Raider to keep up.

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>>54672590
>being this deluded
>not playing ultramarines

>>54672651
I mean, I'm just saying. The issue was sizing of many things. Custodes are such a minor thing it doesn't even really matter.

>>54672622
Can't run a decent chaos army without using their ugly specialty models.

Also using a pretty much 100% counts-as army doesn't fly at my LGS.

>>54672560

Depends on how far on the metallic/black scale you want to go. If you just want glossy black, black with sharp highlights is probably the way to go. Otherwise, a basecoat of leadbelcher and then several very thin layers of black would probably get you there.

>>54672665
Can't even give her a squad if she's in a venom, and she needs to get out to dispense rerolls. It annoys me as well, hopefully the codex will fix it.

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>>54672667
Nice

>>54672670

>Custodes are a minor thing

The Emperor's private guard who are the hand made master crafted equivalent to the mass produced marines are minor?

>>54672694
Yes, because there aren't enough of them to matter in-universe, and they're one of the least popular factions.

>>54672672
Its not counts as. Convert them. Have them be renegades.

What's the reasoning behind making flier lists illegal? If fliers were too strong, need them. No need to make them illegal.

If certain heavy support were a problem like say Leman Russ tanks, would it make more sense to nerf Leman Russes or to effectively invalidate the entire heavy support slot?

A lot of people still scoff at fliers but their models are great and they have good fluff. They are a universal unit type available to all armies and the recent FAQ baffles me, it's like GW regret 6th edition and I don't know why.

>>54672694
Yes cus they have less than a hand count of models. Even if they added in 30k stuff they're small and minor, game-wise.

Cus there are a lot of major fluff things poorly represented.

>>54672705
Because the problem was taking a list composed of all fliers.

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What now, /tg/?

>>54672705
They just made it so you needed troops to hold ground. It prevented all flyer lists and moved them to doing their proper role of air support.

>>54672713
Why's that a problem? We have air detachments and heavy support detachments, why isn't all heavy support affected?

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>>54672705
It takes time to release the stuff that nerfs them, and even then that can't guarantee it would fix the situation.

Really GW needs something similar to the FAQ's that releases every few months updating/changing rules/stats to balance the game more.

>>54672716

Nobody cares about fucking Konor there's no notable fluff for the campaign so it might as well just be a wall tracker with "GOOD" on one side "BAD" on the other and "FUCK OFF XENOS PLAYERS" underneath.

>>54672728
Because heavy support lists weren't taking top spots at tournaments. This hits those lists without punishing people running a reasonable amount of fliers.

>>54672730
I meant more that it said until the start of week 7

>>54671984
Imperium will always win for several reasons

As a whole, they're the most popular faction. Mostly because GW can't stop sucking Smurf dick, but also because it's an amalgamation of multiple factions

The Space Marine codex just dropped, giving Marines an edge.

GW won't let Imperium lose.

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>>54672746
GW won't let anyone really lose.

It's going to end up like Gathering Storm where both sides 'win', but one side gets a sleight advanrage.

>>54671571
Overall it's a lot cleaner , faster and simpler and the balance is overall a lot better as generally everything is good now and there's a lot less RANG shitting things up.

Things I do miss however

>Cover and terrain mattering.
Most units simply can't get cover and terrain doesn't slow units down at all.

> Positioning mattering.
Vehicles don't have faces anymore, you choose what models you remove from a unit instead of having to position them better.
Most jarring models line of sight doesn't really matter. I can position my landraider so it's front track is poking out and shoot your hive tyrant of which I can only see your wings with all my lascannons. I can then fire my heavy bolters directly behind me at another unit. Or I can position my basilisks so they're all back to back in a corner of the board and fire at whatever I want. Or I can make a good old parking lot of vehicles, chimeras, russes etc, all of which can fire through eachother and 360 degrees around eachother.

It's ripe open for abuse basically and needs some serious thought.

>Bubbles

The game encourages you to clump your units together to get buffs from characters that coupled with closer deployments means games end up with everything just smashing together in a big angry mosh pit in the centre of the board until whoever rolled dice better wins. This goes against the general aesthetic of the game and limits interesting tactics

>First turn problem.

Basically if you get the first turn 90% chance you win. Obviously bit of an issue.

Otherwise it's fine. Command points are quite nice too.

>>54672667
Who is this Semen Demon?

>>54672782
>Or I can make a good old parking lot of vehicles, chimeras, russes etc, all of which can fire through eachother and 360 degrees around eachother.
This is blatantly false, your mdoels block each other LoS unless they are part of the same unit

>>54672782
>terrain doesn't slow units down at all
Have you read the rules my friend? That is flatly not true.

>games end up with everything just smashing together in a big angry mosh pit in the centre of the board until whoever rolled dice better wins
Lol so have you actually played any games of 8th edition? That's ridiculous and also completely untrue.

>First turn
First turn is pretty strong.

>>54672678
So black with two metal highlights, or black with white on metal highlights?

>>54672782
Cover and terrain in general is kind of fucky. Thanks to the generic ruins rules you can charge through solid walls and having a unit half poking around a wall doesn't count as cover unless the terrain has a base and the models are wholly within it which makes it a bitch for vehicles to get a cover bonus.

>>54672821
It depends on the terrain piece really. Tanks can freely move through tank traps, it only halves their advance distance, and according to the rules for ruins you can freely charge through them.

>>54672797
it's an irish girl in heat

>>54672838
lol you should read the rules again my friend

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>>54671870
I like that paint color, wish I had chosen a more original base paint.

Trying to get my guys tabletop ready. This is my first army that I have ever painted

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>>54672733

A question for any taufag who has a moment, it says I must set up the drones within unit coherency but after that they are treated as separate units, does this mean I can have my drones from a strike team leave and follow a suit with drone controller?

>>54672733
Great the Imperium gets more advantage on top of their advantages of numbers and newer releases. This campaign was over before it began

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so in one of yesterday's threads some anons were talking about running 10 world eaters zerkers charging and doing 120 attacks.
>"10 zerkers(1chainsword+1chainsword+1chainaxe) jump out of a rhino, charge, use strategem 3 attack phases 120 attacks"
can someone explain this to me? (as in why they have 3 melee and wjat the strategem does.)

>>54672854
And which rules are that
"INFANTRY are assumed to be able
to scale walls and traverse through
windows, doors and portals readily.
These models can therefore move
through the floors and walls of a
ruin without further impediment."

>>54672774
>It's going to end up like Gathering Storm where both sides 'win'

The Chaos side only one arguably in GS 1. The rest of the series had Chaos losing.

>>54672873
Berserkers fight twice. Strategem lets them fight a third time. Not that complex.

>>54672876
>INFANTRY
Hmmmmm, that's not a tank!

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What sort of list would be good for a Exodite army? Ynnari for the mix of units?
Alternatively, what sort of rules would you want for a Exodite army? Obviously lots of dinos and sneaky beakiness

>>54672859

>Xenos

Did you miss that we're called Grand Alliance: Heterosexuals (Xenos) now?

>>54672888
I never said tanks could move through ruins? I said the could move through tank traps, which they can.
"There are two kinds of obstacles:
tank traps, which are obstacles to
VEHICLES and MONSTERS, and
tanglewire, which is an obstacle
to everything else. Units are
slowed when they attempt to move
over obstacles. If, when a unit
Advances or charges, one or more
of its models have to move over
an obstacle, you must halve the
unit’s Advance or charge distance,
as appropriate (rounding up).
TITANIC models are not slowed
by obstacles."

>>54672891
This. The Grand Heterosexual Alliance will not stand those vile insults.

>>54672807

No, if my chimera is directly behind another chimera it in the old rules would block it from firing. Now since all I have to do is draw line of sight from anywhere on my model to anywhere on my opponents model to fire all my weapons and then I can draw line of sight from the top of the turret or one of the tank treads poking out the corner and fire all of my weapons.

The Los block penalty would only apply if say my space marine was behind my landraider and couldn't see at all.

>>54672921
That's not "firing through eachother" then, it's firing OVER eachother

>>54672930
Or around, so long as your track is sticking out slightly you can drawl LoS.

>>54672889
Spikers because they already have all sorts of beasts and weird aliens, and their mix of units can easily represent savage warriors with dinosaurs instead of gladiators and mad science.

>>54672930

Well no, my hull mounted weapon by any logic and how the old rules work can't fire over a vehicle the same size as it. Nor magically fire through my tank treads but in 8e it can.

>>54672948
Remember to give all your vehicles retractable antennas to raise on your turn and lower on enemy turn.

>>54672948
Yes but you're not drawing los through other units like the other anon was implying and the realism or older rules argument is completely invalid since we're talking about the new rules here

>>54671822
Don't you like, actually fucking look at your minis and think "hey, this looks bad, I should remove these bits of plastic"?

>>54672273
This actually raises an interesting point, we know from the Dark Imperium book that Cawl has access to all 20 of the original geenseeds, and likely has been given access to the various chimeric geenseeds used in various foundings.
Do you think this means he has been given access to the Grey Knight geenseed also?

Does Papa Smurf have enough sway to actually pull that one off?

>>54672956
Literally nothing in the rules to stop this. There used to be a clause that meant you couldn't draw LOS on extraneous parts of the model that were obviously for decoration but now players with cool models are either punished , or rewarded if they decide to abuse it.

>>54672967
Shag that, lost legion long lads when?

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>>54672883
1 Champ->3 attacks+1 from chainsword=4
9 zerkers->2 attacks+1 from chainsword=3
4+27=31 31*3=93
where do the extra 27 attacks come from

>>54672967
Does Papa Smurf know they exist?

>>54672985
2chainz each

So, does GSC Breeder post here anymore? And does anyone have the pics she took?

>>54672985
I believe the World Eaters legion trait is +1 attack on the charge.

>>54672976
I'm not sure anyone would sit there and let you alter your models in the middle of a game to your advantage.

You can definitely add an antenna to let you peak over walls and shit to claim cover but I doubt you'll be getting many games after people catch on.

Anyone else think xenos vs xenos, chaos vs chaos and imperium vs imperium should just count as losses?

>>54672873
If only they had updated plastics :(

>>54672956
lel, no wonder you autistic faggots are bitching about 8th so much. You abuse any little detail that can be and probably end up being that one faggot who sits in the corner with his waac army ready for a battle that will never happen because nobody wants to put up with your bullshit

>>54672504
In their own way.

>>54672995
who?

>>54673003
No.

>>54673003
At my shop we just didn't report imp vs imp or chaos vs chaos or anything similar, since we have a pretty even split of imp/chaos/xenos players.

>>54673022
I don't even play 8e, I just find bitching at unbelievably shoddy rules amusing.

>>54673003
Well, that's kinda stupid, because I'm pretty sure xenos that win against chaos can actually grant points to chaos.

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>>54673001
ok so that's 20 more attacks

>>54672992
Did they update something, im not seeing where they can take 2 swords?

>>54673003
To be fair in the case of Xenos vs Xenos it could be two Xenos armies fighting for opposite sides.

Like Eldar attacking Orks hired as mercenaries by Chaos.

>>54673022
>GW designs badly thought out rules
>It's the players fault for following them

Sure retractable antennas are silly. But if I model my Daemon prince with extra large wings why is the game punishing me for it? Likewise if I choose to carefully position my tank so it actually can see o fire with all its weapons at its target why does the game not care and reward the player who doesn't care about skillful positioning and is just firing from his tank treads?

>>54673003
>xenos vs xenos
>count as loss

The glorious Kabals of Commoragh teaching those braindead fishfaces the meaning of good-old-fashioned ultraviolence is clearly a victory.

>>54673001
Do you know what traits Black Legion and Word Bearers have?

>>54673060
It is not, it detracts from the cause of the Grand Heterosexual Alliance. I do agree that fishface should go and stay go, though.

>>54672873
Not sure if this is correct but I wanted to fuck around with it myself

A squad of 10 berzerkers contains 1 champion (3 attacks) and 9 zerkers (2 attacks)

The zerkers can replace their chainsword (which gives +1 attack) OR pistol with a chainaxe. This means that optimally a zerker will want to make an attack with a chainsword (+1 from the sword's ability), and one with the stronger chainaxe, making each zerker attack 3 times. If we take a chainaxe on the champ, that's 4 attacks on him, so we get 31 attacks total in one fight phase.
Now here's the fun part: the zerkers have a neat ability called Blood for the Blood God, which makes it so they can fight twice in the fight phase. That gives us 31 more attacks.
If we use the stratagem that lets them fight another time, that's 31 more attacks.

Sums up to 93 attacks - I dunno if I missed something, or you quoted it wrong - a unit of 15 can get 130 attacks I think

>>54673042
30. 10 models fighting 3 times.

>>54673084
Or, even, 20 models fighting 3 times which is even more.

>>54673082
nvm there's the legion trait that gives em +1 attack on charge so that's 30 more

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Did GW just post these in June and unhide them as the campaign unfolds?

>>54673072
Word Bearers faction focus should be today

>>54673097
Are you telling me that they knew this one sided event would pan out for the stronger faction?

>>54673101
Chaos be praised!

>>54671856
Phased out? What do you mean? You sound as if you are worried GW police will boot your door in because you arnt using the latest up to the minute releases. I still use 1st edition figures from the 80s. Take pride in the time and effort you invested in something you enjoyed doing.

>>54673057
No, its the players fault for looking at the rulebook just like a jew looks at the Talmud. It's meant to be a set of procedures you follow when playing the game not something you're supposed to find any little fault of the written word to exploit for your benefit, you realize its also in the rulebook to have fun right? so by waacfags like you abusing anything you can get your hands on you're actually breaking a rule too, does the rulebook really need to say DONT BE A CUNT for you to understand it? I guess it wouldnt really matter as you'd still tie up a judge for half the match with questions about how your quad-lascannon antenna is "remotely cuntish"

>>54672315
Custodians are too small and they aren';t even a year old... damn it. They new Primaris were coming too.

>>54671859
>>54671860

>summer

What's a good imperial melee army? I want to play Celestine but i don't know what to pair with her

>>54673160
200 conscripts, Yarrick and a few Commanders.

>>54671856
Sorry anon, sounds like you have more issues to worry about than plastic army dudes :( I'd concentrate on those first rather than the hobby, honestly

Ok, in all honestly how well do all Primaris lists perform? It seems like a fun novelty in it's own right.

>>54673160
Death Company

Black Templars

Carcharadons

A gorillion conscripts with a gorillion bayonets

>>54671691
Quartermaster

>>54673169
I forgot to say i'd rather avoid playing a horde army, i already play guard so i would like an elite force or something like that

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Praise Slaanesh, Slaanesh is great

>>54673160
Yiffs, BAngels, Templars, blobguard, GK, Dreads

>>54673181
Is there any reliable source or anti-tank available to Primaris units? I know the Repulsor has some lascannons but is there anything beyond that and spamming plasma shots?

>>54673160
Grey knights.
Low model count, 2 boxes which can make all units available to them, default dakka is great especially for a melee unit and not to mention the perfect silver contrast to the saints gold

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>>54673184
Nice, thanks for the suggestions