Night Lords Chapter Focus Rules

Why would you consider these insane?

I'm happy about the claws and the warlord trait isn't bad I guess.

Tactics will come into play once every 6 games or so.

won't work on orks, imperial guard, nids, tau (min squads), gsc.

Ironically it should prove most effective against other chaos, though regs marines should suck it as well.

>>54658733
I get Guard because of commissars, but why not the rest?

>>54658733
>Most effective on other chaos and Marines

Makes sense for nightlords desu desu

>>54659391
Not him but Orks have their own special leadership rule, and nids are fearless in their synapse bubble. And of course guard blobs with commisars don't care.

>>54659420
No it doesn't. Night Lords constantly lose against other marines even when they have a 4 to 1 advantage in numbers. They're only ever halfway successful when butchering unarmed civilians.

The leadership thing will be great against units of big multiwound models. Down two bullgryns while you have a -3 on them and you almost certainly get a third for free, which could be decisive. If they are separated from their babysitter (and as objective campers they may well be) you might wipe even a largish squad.

>>54659671

I think some of this could be aided by assassination tactics.
Can CSM take any sort of snipers? I'd also suggest trying to assault the Commisar, but odds are the guard player won't allow space around him for us.

>>54660422

Make space.

Holy shit. I thought their legion tactic was bad when it was leaked, but it also comes with a -3 cap? Jesus christ it's so shitty. It will NEVER be useful. Here are the conditions:

>Requires multiple units nearby
>requires at least one casualty on an enemy unit
>requires multiple units to have not killed the enemy unit
>enemy unit can't be Nids, GSC, IG, Tau, Poxwalkers, Orks, or Deathwing

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

>>54660422
>snipers
>chaos

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>54660620
It can be quite useful if you are not incompetent.

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>>54660422
>>54660544
>Kill the commisar
>Make space

This isn't possible in 8th ed. You will never be able to "make space" since you can remove models however you want when they die.

In the last edition, you could kill ten dudes, and since casualties came from whoever was closest, you could carve a path through them. Now you just choose whoever you want.

That is why the Commissar shit is retarded.

Also, snipers for CSM? I wish we had a scout-like unit, could be pretty cool, but sadly we don't

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>>54660674
How is it useful against guard? How can I be
>not incompetent
enough to use it against commissars anon?

Orks and Tyranids being immune to Night Lord terror tactics makes sense. Tyranids don't give a shit and Orks would be impressed rather than intimidated, except for grots.

IG should be more scared of being flayed alive or dismembered than being executed by the Commissar. When fighting an enemy where a quick death is actually preferable, you aren't going to be scared of a commissar. He can't execute 100+ guys, either if everyone flees simultaneously.

>>54660703

He has no response because it's the worst tactic that also requires infinity setup for mediocre gains, unlike ignores cover or getting -1 to hit.