After D&D

>>54649891
Shadowrun.

>>54649891

What would you most like to improve on? Deadly combat? Player involvement? Edgelording?

>>54649891
You play any TSR D&D yet? Or just WotC "D&D"?

>>54650382
Just WotC

>>54650174
I would like more player involvement and deadly combat, if that's possible.
I don't need anymore edglording some of my players already got that down to an equation.

>>54650660
TSR D&D plays nothing like what you've played.
It aims at the Swords and Sorcery genre, not at Epic Fantasy.

>I would like a more rules heavy system
The rules are generally lighter,
>and one that strays from medieval fantasy.
and it's not as married to settings.

>I would like more player involvement
Still going to recommend TSR D&D
>and deadly combat, if that's possible.
TSRD&DTSRD&DTSRD&D

Pathfinder
Legend
Dungeon World
Lamentations of The Flame Princess
13th Age
Adventurer Conqueror King

>>54650751
Sword and Sorcery defines Epic Fantasy. Are you brain damaged?

>>54651735
Sword and Sorcery belongs in Heroic Fantasy, not Epic Fantasy. Get your definitions straight.
Not to mention that WotC took the Sword from Sword and Sorcery, buried it deep underground and pissed on its grave.

SHADOWRUN IF YOU WANT SOME HEAVY RULES AND CRAZY SHIT.

Best Sytem is FRPG sytem obv

>>54649891
Full wizard party. Force your players to make wizards starting at 1st level.

>>54649891
GURPS. Hands down.