Warhammer Fantasy General

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First for orc extermination.

First for not Dwarfs.

>>54641956
Can't wait for the main campaign when I leave Ulthuan to its fate then conquer Athel Loren to use as a base of operations for the launch of G-Day alongside the Dwarfs.

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Would you lovingly lewd a lascivious lady Lahmian?

How the fuck do enchantments work in Warhammer? How are magical items made in setting? Is there some table somewhere to do it?

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>>54642259
>How are magical items made in setting?

1.) Elven forging. Priests of Vaul can weave magic into an object permanently as part of its creation through methods that aren't entirely known. They can also use absurd materials, like forged light - Kerillian in Vermintide has a pair of daggers supposedly made in this manner.

2.) Chaos creatia. A Chaos god or daemon can imbue an object with power, or shape raw Chaos into an.object, or bind a daemon to an item and use it as a battery. Chaos Dwarfs use this last method, and gods punish fuck-up daemons this way occasionally.

3.) Warpstone forging. An object made in part or whole of warpstone, which is solidified Chaos, will exhibit magic properties. Side effects may include hair loss, depression, psychosis, mutation, acute radiation poisoning, and death.

4.) Divine creatia. Non-chaos gods can imbue objects with their power.

5.) Memetic gain. An object can become magical BECAUSE people believe it is. This is often the case with items belonging to legendary heroes. The effect of so many wills acting in unison shapes the currents of magic.

6.) Pollution. Sometimes an object becomes magic because it was present for or integral in a great happening.

7.) MAGIC RUNES, LADDIE! Magic can be channeled and trapped in runes. Dwarf runes tend to be the most powerful and are always the safest and most stable, but they've lost some and deliberately ignore others because they include elements like dragon's fire. Skaven, humans, and even orcs are depicted using runes in some sources, but they are generally inferior. Skaven in particular tend to be powerful bit incredibly unreliable.

>>54642256
I doubt I'd be useful enough to keep around. My Warhammer career equivalent is an alchemist's assistant.

But hey, no reason to turn down a good thing.

>>54642256
A woman wanting me?
I don't care if she's a horror from beyond the grave only using me to take over humanity. I'd follow her and get my blood succed if she'd have me.

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Check out the new Green Knight from Tabletop Miniature Solutions. Very similiar to the GW Green Knight, but looks pretty wicked. I would get him, but I already have the GW version.... What I am going to get is a unit of their version of Knights of the Realm, and the grail reliquae.

>>54642605
I backed their VC and TK. They said a full replacement range for Beastmen is next.

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If ogres were the last race made by the old ones, and the closest they were to success. Does that mean thet ogres are the true master race of warhammer?

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>>54642605
Check out their female Blood Dragon.

>>54642654
Ogres and Halflings were the last races, made together, and we're a failed desertion gambit. It seems likely they were intended to have a master blaster relationship.

>>54642670
Okay I like butt but come on.

>>54642654
Physically yes, but the Old Ones never gave them culture or teachings like they did the Dwarfs and Elves and their environment was an unfinished mess so they became little better than Orcs.

Inbreeding and constant exposure to mutating Chaos energy didn't help either.

>>54642654
Their fashion sure never fails to crack me up.

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>>54642700
I've actually seen real armor like that. But its for mounted troops who's ass doesn't need protection beyond the saddle and barding.

I kind of like her
>Not sure if serious
face

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>>54642634

Beastmen... hmm I can deal with that.. but I was hoping they'd go for Skaven. And yea I donated to their kickstarter/gofundme thing for Bretonnia as well. I probably donated atleast 50-60 bucks for them. I got a 10% off voucher from it.

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>>54642758
TMS Necrarch male.

They are making a male and female for every bloodline other than Strigoi since girl Strigoi wasn't unlocked.

>>54642766
>I got a 10% off voucher from it.
that's all? Fuckers

>>54642766
Skaven are probably later, there's plenty of alternatives and GW squatted almost nothing of them.

First is a boxed starter for T9A feature I believe TK VS Brets, then Beastmen. In an interview they said they are debating who comes after Beastmen, with Wood Elves and Ogre Kingdoms in the front running.

>>54642818
Yea I know..I was hoping I could get a bit of a better reward for supporting them on their facebook...but whatever... just glad they're doing some work with 8th/9th..

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I like their Minotaur.

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>>54642828
Yea I'm definitely going to get the TK vs Brets boxed set. But unfortunately these guys are slooow in all their stuff so unless you heard something, I don't see it being released for a bit.. But I hope you know something that I don't mate.

I actually may wait to see the contents of the boxed set, I was going to get a box of their peasant militia, but I may wait.

Also I think these guys may want to take more care in updating their own site with actual images of the models. For the peasants and many other models on their site, all they have are these lame concept art photos

Who is, crunchwise, the strongest character feaured in the armybooks during 6th ed?
I don't really care about 7th because ot was a pale and forgettable attempt to repeat 6th ed, and 8th ed for me is already end times lore

Fellow 9th agers. An opponent tried to convince me spears didn't have the 'fight in extra ranks' rule on the turn they charged. Being in the heat of the moment, I hesitated, but now when I can look for it I can't find that rule.
Is there even such a rule?

Yo! Looking for people to play WFRP 2e!

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84999/warhammer-fantasy-roleplay-2e

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>>54643309

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>>54643309
>>54643327
Good luck! I found a few players for my WHRPG 2e game and we're starting (hopefully) this Saturday our first campaign, or atleast the intro.

Because we're both playing the same niche game, you wanna exhange Discord names? Perhaps we can help each other out? discuss stuff? Talk about how we're both doing throughout our campaigns? We can get our groups together maybe?

My discord is Horizon_Brave#9823

There's already a Skaven alternative Kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hiddendreams/hidden-dreams-miniatures

Any T9A players able to tell me how going balls deep on deepstriking Dwarfs would be?

Miners, Rangers, Slayers, and trying to get as much of the rest into Skirmishing as possible.

>>54641929
>tfw warhammer had to die for a story featuring lizardmen to happen

And its actually good.
Its a short story from Total Warhammer 2 from the perspective of a skink, pretty spot on portrayal of lizardmen. They are alien, but they arent robots.
It even features a cute Kroxigor sidekick

Reaper Bones 4 just started!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-4-mr-bones-epic-adventure

>>54643671
I liked the whole "Discordance" bit. It's the kind of cultural belief that Lizardman fans always figured existed for them, being such a rigid society and so dedicated to carrying out the Old One's plans perfectly, but we had never been given an actual word for it, much less a showing of how it might be brought up.

>linking the pictures for everyone's benefit
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>>54643783
Whoops, that last one should be >>54625487

Would a character be corrupted if he wore an armor (pr part of it) taken from a slain chaos warrior? Not the fused-to-the-skin type, just regular plate armor with chaos marks.

Would he be able to wear it with nome being the wiser if he scratched off the marks and chaos iconography?

>>54642455
I'd say you're me, but that's the point where I'd be going 'well this is a trick right? You can't really want me. You want money or something.'

>>54643959
Chaos generally works like radiation, so yeah, carrying pretty much anything that has spent a significant amount of time north of Troll Country is a bad idea if you want to remain tentacle-free.

>>54642418
If nothing else, you're always useful as rapier/pistol fodder for when the witch hunters come knocking.

>>54643959
The risk is quite high. Chaos tends to taint things it touches. Scratching out marks of Chaos is both unlikely to work and VERY unwise, as slighting the Four is incredibly perilous.

>wanna write fanfic.
>storythread is dead.
REEEEE

Vampire hunter named Maxim who uses a silver greathammer, y/n?

>>54643959
Maybe if you gave it a century or so in some holy place to burn off the taint...

How much would one be able to save buying a WFB battalion (hobby store in my city still has a few for roughly £75) or buying the equivalent number of troops from a recaster like Z?

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>>54644129
I feel i should specify. What if this chaos warrior is a literally who from norsca, not particularly graced by the gods. Nothing magical about the armor, he was something like barely above a marauder

What if the armor is taken from a marauder that fell during a raid down south?

>>54644224
That lessens the contamination risk somewhat, but my previous statement about symbols of Chaos stands.

>>54641929

Why does he wear the mask?

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>>54644224
If you tried to be careful with it, it might be feasible, but why bother? You could probably get better quality armor in Bretonnia, let alone the Empire, without the risk of taint or getting blammed for suspected taint.

>>54644224
Did Alarielle stand on it at some point? That seems to decontaminate it.

>>54644299
>she will never stand on you and decontaminate you.

>>54644224

You're fishing for a specific answer you want to hear; so okay, yeah, sure, he's totally fine and it won't complicate anything at all in his life for reasons that you already know.

Better?

>>54644293
But armor is fucking expensive m8
We barely scratched together 10 gold coins in 6 months

>>54644392
Scratch the signs off and sell it to some dumbfucks piecemeal to maximize profit. Just don't wear it yourself.

>>54644392
Go kill more beastmen then.

>>54644392
Just murder a few guys who probably aren't tainted, like hitmen or road wardens or something like that.

>>54644334
I'm just asking because you find some in a mound during the path of the damnes adventure in Middenheim. I just want to know how much chaos is too much chaos

>>54644470

Ah. In that case, the adventure is perfectly clear. None of the equipment in that tomb is magical, except for the skull. In Warhammer Fantasy, Chaos is essentially magical. Whether it was because the armour never collected taint, or because the taint faded away somehow, that armour is harmless, according to the adventure.

>>54644392
Sell it to the church.
They won't pay shit if at all, but it won't come back and bite you in the ass.

>>54644287
Nobody cared who he was until he put on the mask.

>>54643783
i like it, i also like that they argue about it.
As in the non slann lizardmen.
I also like kroxigors splashing around in the water, it gives em personality and they lacked that.

>>54644862
>kroxigors are just comfy crocs that laze around in pools when they are bored.
neat

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>>54644862
It gives them a sense of personality beyond 'lizard robots' like so many have assumed. They have to argue and interpret for themselves when the Slann don't talk to them.

>>54643404
Dude. I sent you a friend request on Discord days ago trying to get into your game and even applied on Roll20 and you totally ignored me.

I didn't want to run my own game. I'm tired of being GM.

So is youcandothat /ourskink/?

>>54644287
Lotta loyalty for a hired gut!

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>>54645257
Mate, I got a ton of people who signed up wanted to play. I couldn't/can't get everyone into the game. There's a reason why I only had like 4 positions open...it's the way it goes when you put out a mass advertisement...not everyone makes it in. No hard feelings at all, from me. We should be on the same side, not pissed at each other : )

>>54645149
which was pretty much a meme anyway.
the fluff never realy supported this, even saurus warriors would eventually gain some semblance of a personality like with kroq-gar

I like this new spin on it tho.
They are utterly devoted but they dont quite know how. Its endearing.

>>54645395
I'm pissed you ignored me. Not cool. Not on the same side or whatever.

>>54645446
CA is doing more for warhammer fantasy than GW has in a long time.

>Kroxigors just swim in the water when they are on break.
CUTE!

>>54645505
lol okay...have it your way...you really need to mature and grow up though man. I mean that in the best way. You're not always going to get what you want... you can't hold a grudge for not being able to play your game.

>>54645395
Your overly friendly manner is disconcerting, you come off as the sort of person who magical realms.

The anon has every right to be annoyed if you didn't do him the courtesy of saying "sorry, spot's filled already". Posting a smiley face on an image board just heightens how much of a twat you come off as.

>>54645627
Basically yes.

>>54645620
Fuck off, anon. I'm not upset I didn't get to join your game. I'm upset that you came here, advertised, and then ignored people who wanted to play.

>>54645691
The manner of speech is a massive fucking red flag - they type like a kid, or worse - best thing to do is ignore and direct to gtfo back to tumblr or reddit

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>>54645783
Yo. You wanna play WFRP?

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84999/warhammer-fantasy-roleplay-2e

>>54645842
I would if I had the time anon, post-grad and playing EDH eats up my weekends. And then I need to fit the missus in somewhere between shitposting.

>>54642670
>female Blood Dragon

Blood Dragons were a knightly order, they didn't have women. The females of the bloodline were just wives of male Blood Dragons.

>>54642980
Archaon

>>54643241
That's how it worked in the 8th edition.

>>54646077
I think the Blood Dragons are just the term that people use for Aborash's bloodline. They don't actually have to be of a knightly order at all.

>>54645691
>>54645627

Really...? stooping to "same fagging" and responding to yourself to show support?

>>54646077
Blood Dragons are literally anyone in Abhorash's Bloodline.

>>54646125
>>54646149
Actually Blood Dragon refers to the knights turned by Walach.

>>54644862
>>54644936
Kroxigors are probably pretty chill because they weren't designed specifically as warriors like Saurus were. They're heavy-lifting for temple construction and the like, so their personalities default to 'stay calm and do what you're told'.

>>54646195
No, that's the origin for the Bloodline name.

Blood Dragons now refers to any Vampire turned by Abhorash or a Vampire they in turn turned.

This is because the knightly order is now extinct.

Otherwise what the hell would you call a member of Abhorash's Bloodline with a twat?

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>>54646130
Why do you set yourself up to get blown the fuck out so easily?

>>54646279
blown out by 1 cry baby yea?

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Cum in bloodwrack.

>>54646313
The picture is showing you it's multiple people, dummy.

>>54646278
>Otherwise what the hell would you call a member of Abhorash's Bloodline with a twat?

Those don't exist, Blood Dragons only turn worthy opponents.

>>54646235
Kroxigors are just a bunch of Michael Clarke Duncans
sounds good to me.

>>54646346
I know Warhammer as a setting has mainly male warriors rather than female, but surely some Valkyries from up north or something could be seen as worthy of the Blood Kiss. And it's not as if it's not possible to have females of other bloodlines.

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>>54646130
>putting inverted commas around samefag
ISHYGDDT

>>54625662

It'd be the high elves, since the Vortex is mentioned.

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>>54646319
Breed in Witchhunter.

>>54646346
>>54646410
NDM explicitly notes women have been turned by the Blood Dragons in the past.

>>54646346
Which is funny because its canon a shitload of Bret knights are women in disguise, and Kislev uses both genders as soldiers.

So yeah.

>>54646479
>rpg fluff written by literally who

>>54646077
>The females of the bloodline were just wives of male Blood Dragons.

Wrong. Abhorash's bloodline only turns opponents considered sufficiently worthy warriors.

>>54646499
Sorry, the RPG's writing was overseen by GW and it is canon.

>>54643241
No. Spears are on page 70 of the rulebook. They grant fight in extra rank, I think in 8th they had a seperate rule with its own name.

In all seriousness though dont let someone get you flustered, just bring the rulebook out and check, its better for you and itll stop him trying to pull that shit against other people.

>>54646489
I love that "Shakespeare Blindness" thing Bretonnians have
One of my players played a Bret she-knight who was basically "Bob" from Blackadder Goes Fourth, and the group go so used to treating her like a "he" that it was a running joke that they kept forgetting he was a woman.

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>>54646613
>I love that "Shakespeare Blindness" thing Bretonnians have
I got into the setting only after Total War came out and the tabletop was deader then a doornail, so what is this?

>>54645505
Dude don't be such a faggot throwing a temper tantrum on a public board just because some dude didn't message message you back.

>>54646499
The RPG material is probably the best researched and most consistent background. Probably because the details actually matter in an RPG.
BL just let anyone write horseshit and the GW dev team turned to wankery by the end.
But BI produced some stellar material (RIP). As did Forgeworld for that matter.

>>54646654
Basically Bretonnia is kind of really sexist in a chivalric virtue sort of way; it is beneath the dignity of decent women to fight, more or less. This doesn't mean that Bretonnian women don't fight as often as Empire women do (as in a relatively small minority but it still happens from time to time), but they always disguise themselves as men to do it for cultural reasons.
Bretonnian men however are basically retards about recognizing it; weather it be simple politeness or an actual inability to recognize that the handsome squire is really obviously a chick in a really poor disguise, they NEVER are able to recognize a Bretonnian woman dressed as a man.
There isn't even a high-difficulty check for it in the RPG; they just flat-out cannot do it.

>>54646632
Y'all quoting overwritten lore again, son?

>>54643309
Is this a West Marches style campaign?

>>54646654
Bretonnians are seemingly incapable of recognising a man who is disguised as a woman.
That might just be a consequence of chivalry - it would be incredibly rude to accuse a knight of being a woman in disguise. But it means that despite Bretonnia's stifling gender roles, women can pull a Mulan pretty easily.

>>54646613
>>54646654
Basically, it's implicit in the later Bretonnian material that Bret noblemen will stubbornly refuse to acknowledge that a woman knight is a woman unless absolutely forced to by either the knight saying as much or them getting caught with their tits out. They'll just tolerate the masquerade as long as the "man" continues to behave in a knightly and manly matter.

Of course, your mileage may vary. Some of these guys may just be idiots. Others might not be so weirdly tolerant and call anyone they see. In any case, if you take a person, shear their hair, dress them in armor, and wean them on a diet of hard travel and warfare, you might not actually recognize them for a woman even with their helm off.

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So we're getting new FLC in Total Warhammer that's going to be shown off tomorrow. We know that it'll be RoR for Beastmen and Norsca at the very least, but I imagine that there'll be some for the Wood Elves, Bretonnia, and Chaos Warriors too.

What pre-ET lore regiments could they add? Swords of Chaos? Sigvald's Shieldbearers?

>>54646748
>a woman with cut hair and out of dress is the same as a man in their eyes
Bretonnia truly is a special place. But special in a negative light.

>>54646802
Regiments of Renown are simply retextured models, not even new models?

>>54646767
Having a 'Mulan' as a special character for Bretonnia would be great.

Not Joan of Arc explicitly taking up arms against the invaders chosen by the will of the Lady so recognized as a unique case (and she should totally be brought back as an LL for TWW, once more by the will of the Lady)

>>54646410
>Worthy opponent
>Uses Chaoshax
Disqualified

>>54646479
RPG device to allow yourdude to fit in, anyways, it'd be either rare enough to be insignificant or any knight woman would (have to) be completely ironclad, making the disctinction pointless

Also, wouldn't they be exposed as soon as they'd have to swear any of the vows?
>Inb4 Knights Errant
No Blood Dragon would bother with errant shitters

>>54646809
Bretonnian women typically cover their hair, and peasant women usually wear theirs short for practical reasons. Nobles, on the other hand, do not do so, styling it and covering it with elaborate headgear.

Actually seeing a Bretonnian noblewoman with her hair down is an incredibly intimate thing, and if you were to say, catch one bathing in a pool, she'd cover her hair before her body (vis. Knights of the Grail). So they take their hair very seriously, and the idea of SHEARING IT OFF probably seems preposterous to most noblemen.

>>54646802
Total Warhammer so-called Regiments of Renown aren't actual ROR's from the tabletop, they are just generic units already in the game but given a special ability or whatever.

>>54646749
The 6th edition armybook didn't overwrite it and since then GW has pretended that bloodlines don't exist, so it's not overwritten at all.

>>54646707
Black Industries was under Black Library though. And they did let anyone write horseshit like female Bretonnian knights.

Is this going to be the shitposting topic of choice for this thread, female warriors and how they are wrongbad?

>>54646845
There's nothing preventing women from taking knightly vows, and there are a (very, very) few women in the Empire who are also knights. It's more common in Kislev, where the sexes are legally equal. Nehekhara never seemed to have a problem with women in power, just women in the church, so I don't see even Abhorash's old guard refusing a woman the ability to take a knightly oath.

>No Blood Dragon would bother with errant shitters

Blood Dragons respect prowess, not rank. If a knight-errant could stand up to them, they'd turn them. If they had potential, they might let them 'mature' a bit before coming back to try their steel again. These aren't von Carsteins.

>>54646909
Go away, there is no shitposting and you won't summon it this way, your tzeentchian schemes are weak.

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>>54646890
If anything BI was conservative with the mandate GW gave them. Repanse d'Lyonesse was a woman AND a peasant AND made a knight AND made a Duchess AND did not pretend to be a man for the sake of Bretonnian sensibilities.

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>>54646828
Retextures usually but some may have extra details, like the Krimson Killerz' dual great weapons.

>>54646865
I'm aware. Pirazzo's Lost Legion is actually a faction in their own right on the upcoming map.

>>54646831
As I said, one of my players (my gf actually) did a character like that because she thought it was funny.
"His" name was "Sir" Robert d'Eon, an obvious historical reference but also a reference to "Bob" from Blackadder.

https://youtu.be/BLTR8qYWJbQ

>>54641929
tell me about this guy. why does he wear a mask?

>>54646935
BI had to make the rpg completely gender neutral because even though women don't pay war games, they do play rpgs, so changes had to be made else feminists notice blood in the water.

>>54646751
What's that mean?

>>54647001
Please take your paranoid fantasies back to >>>/x/

>>54646890
>Black Industries was under Black Library though.
They were a wing of BL, but I was clearly talking about the novels.

>And they did let anyone write horseshit like female Bretonnian knights.
They created an interesting concept that added to the depth of the setting rather than removed from it. They made it clear that Bretonnia has very strict gender rules and that female knights are considered an abomination BUT gave you leeway to bend the rules in your own game in a way that has the potential to make humourous Blackadderesque situations.
That's a decent way to do it, I'd say.

>>54647001
In all fairness, this was maybe six or seven years before the recent fad of paying attention to nerd culture as a serious thing and strong attention to it from focused groups like interested feminists.

So basically it did it before anyone could whine about them doing it because nobody paid enough attention to it yet to care enough about whining about it.

>>54646613
It's amusing and even somewhat fun in that case, but sometimes it can be frustrating - like the fact that the RPG makes it sound like the entire reason that the Fay Enchantress isn't called out as an elf is because Bretonnians don't see that many elves, but any more worldly Imperial (or obviously, an elf) can easily recognize her for who she is. But I don't feel like that's as much the RPG writers fault as it is the uncomfortable situation the Fay Enchantress is in, though I still feel like they could have made use of some magic illusion instead of going 'Bretonnians are stupid so they can't tell.'

Then again, the good thing about the RPG fluff is that you can cherrypick things you like and things you don't, and even throw your own ideas in where things aren't well explained.

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>>54646802
I would be very surprised if they added anything for Bretonnia - if they did, they'd have to either go with some of the End Times units, or stretch back to old lore like the not!Robin Hood guy. Maybe take a special character like Tristan le Troubadour and stick him in a special unit of Questing Knights.

Otherwise they can easily look back to old pre-ET RoR for most factions, it's as simple as that. Most factions have at least one or two, if not plenty more.

>>54646945
It would be nice if there was an online resource that showed off the different regiments of renown screenshot-wise.
The Krimson Killerz seem to be a standout amonst them, actually looking pretty original and really cool.

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>>54646845
You're right, they don't go after Knights-Errant. They wait until they become Questing Knights, or otherwise strong enough to be worth turning.

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>>54647116
Bertrand the Brigand? That would be incredible if they included the Bowmen of Bergerac.

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>>54647024
>only 2 succubi threads and they're shitposting

>>54647204
Sure, I'd enjoy having them, especially as having a non-shitty Bretonnian archer unit. And it'd be easy to do - give them green uniforms, perhaps some facial hair or other tidbits. Pair up some Bretonnian RoR with some Wood Elves RoR, though I don't know much about their units. Maybe Scarloc and his band?

>>54647024
Fuck off, we don't want them either. /x/ is already shitty enough.

>>54646749
Cite where overwritten or ur a faget.

>>54645395
Not that anon, but it's hard for people to apply when the links are down most of the time.

And just a bit of advice, but online games tend to have a higher than average player turn-over. Flakes, personality conflicts, and such, that don't come up in an intro post.

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>>54647314

Night's Dark Masters, section 'Feeding and Breeding,' page 47

>The Dragons seek out only the most exceptional of warriors to receive the Kiss. They must be both incredibly skilled and extremely dedicated to their craft, those who make even their fellow warriors uncomfortable or weary with their endless obsession. Beyond that, however, there are no conditions - the art of war makes no distinctions on nationality, creed, or gender.

>>54647075
Bretonnians just seem to distinguish between "the fey" and sea elves. If we go by some anecdotal evidence, wood elves do often appear wilder and stranger. The most the majority of Bretonnians will see of elves is during the Wild Hunt, after all.

>>54647054
>So basically it did it before anyone could whine about them doing it because nobody paid enough attention to it yet to care enough about whining about it.

They even anticipate the whinge in the forward of several splats and say 'we're not endorsing this, it's just how it is. If it hurts your fee-fees, feel free to change it.'

>>54646868
>>54647314

>>54647500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

Lore wise who are the best cavalry units?

Dragon Princes?
Grail Knights?
Blood Knights?

>>54647603
Blood > Grail > Dragoon

>>54647603
Grail Knights

Blood Knights are a close second, but Grail knights are space marine-tier

>>54647500
But that supports it, not disproves it.

>>54647500
So it hasn't been overwritten in real fluff then.

>>54646865
Some might have small differences like the grudge thrower is called gob lobber and it has night goblins chained to the grudge stones

>>54647673
It states the Dragons only turn warriors. Either those women have been retconned to have been god-tier knights (which would be hilarious) or the lore itself has been retconned.

>>54647677
Concession accepted.

>>54647634
In fluff yes, not in crunch.

But there's more BK than GK, and DK have the best army overall.

>>54647603
Chosen Knights of Chaos

>>54647634
>Grail knights are space marine-tier

Not really.

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>>54647705
I'm sorry, but no.

>>54647700
It literally says that gender doesn't matter, meaning they have turned females.

Female Bret knights and Kislevite soldiers, not to mention the rare female from elsewhere who takes up arms, are eligable.
Fucks sake, there's a fucking female war god with a female-only warrior priesthood.

Fuck, your goalposts have scooted so far they are approaching China.

>>54647727
Yeah, Space Marines aren't as good as Grail Knights.

These guys are Grey Knights tier. They solo Bloodthirsters and have gear so holy it hurts Chaos by presence alone.

>>54647750
>It literally says that gender doesn't matter, meaning they have turned females.

Which I'm not arguing against. I'm arguing against the moron who thinks they turn anyone but warriors, that the only female Blood Dragons were not warriors, and that they'd never turn woman warriors.

>>54647768
Neither Bretonnia armybook describes Grail Knights as being super-human nor do their stats support it, they're only T3. The only space marine tier humans of Warhammer are Chaos Warriors.

>>54647827
Stop arguing with the staggeringly obvious troll you unbelievable moron.

>>54647024
>look at this fucking moron

Dude. You're not welcome. Neither is your feminist ilk. Stop trying to infiltrate our hobby.

>>54647827
Sorry, I thought you were him trying to say "they only turn warriors and there is no such thing as female warriors so no females".

My mistake.

>>54647854
Chaos Warriors are killed by Goblins and Greatswords.

Only Champions are Space Marine tier.

Go read the Grail Knight lore, and stories featuring them. They do shit even SMs can't.

>>54645505
>literally pls respond

Wew

>>54647702
>>54647727
>>54647854

Well he DID ask lore wise, and in lore some grail knights can scour the land of chaos taint by simply walking on it

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>>54647865
>Implying Warhammer has't had girls allowed since before you were a swimmer in yer daddy's danglers.

>>54647921
No shit, dude. Few enough people play this game. And he deliberately ignored me and instead responded to the dude who was like "hey, I'm interested, but I'm going on vacation for a month tomorrow."

It was a dick move.

>>54647984
How can you literally be this much of a whiny faggot? Move the fuck on and grow the fuck up. If someone on the big bad internet triggers you this hard, I can't imagine how you survive in real life.

>>54647911
Space Marines get killed by gretchin.

>>54647926
Neither armybook says that Grail Knights can do that.

>>54648029
>whiny faggot
>pointing out someone else was a faggot

Sure thing, faggot.

>>54647934
>16-year-old wuxia vampire who was blessed by Sigmar and saved Karl Franz

Less of this please.

>>54647934
>one of the worst things to come out of Warhammer

Yeah, that makes sense.

>>54647984
He's a faggot, but so are you. Going by his writing, he's beyond hope (or he just needs his balls to drop), but you're probably all right when you're not bitching about someoke being a flake on the internet. Save yourself.

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>>54647921

>>54648082
>>54648113
Ya'll 40k faggots need to go back.

>>54648133
We're all faggots! I thought that was the thing, here? Isn't this the board for Warhammer-loving homos? Am I in the wrong thread?

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THE TIME HAS COME FOR YOU, THE POSTERS, TO RANK 8TH ED ARMIES FROM BEST - TO WORST

GOGOGOGO

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>>54648185
We're only gay for waifus and husbandos.

>>54648185
Oh yea...you're right...
>be a faggot
>no fucks given

>>54648212
>Best
Everything that isn't End Times faggotry.
>Worst
Archaon and Be'lakor.

>>54648154
I bet you haven't even read Drachenfels but you're such a huge hipster you must pretend you like everything obscure about this game. I bet Malal is your favorite chaos god too.

>>54648185
no homo

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Can someone help me identify these ratmen? Don't know if they are GW or not.

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>>54648185
Sometimes I feel like I have to continually go on about how much I love women and breasts otherwise people are going to think I'm another shy boy that desperately wants to be a trap. Internet's in a weird place.

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>>54648368
>Playing Chaos
Faggot.

>>54648432
They look like really old Skaven to me. Maybe getting some of that extremely thick paint off would help make things clear.

>>54648468
>not playing the faction that is inevitably going to win

>>54648468
Rather manly barbarians than faggot elves.

>>54648475
That's just it, they don't look like any old Skaven I know, and the seller is saying they are Marauder Storm Vermin.

>>54648460
you need Sigmar.

>>54648572
I need Rhya - she's considered the goddess in charge of sex.

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>>54648212
I'm not sure if that's a guy or a girl and I don't even care.

>>54648628
You need Sigmar! And Shallya.

>>54648432
>>54648534
They are a bit weird. There's no skaven symbols for instance. The giant feet and heads look like they were sculpted to imitate the 6th edition plastics. There's only two variations.

I wondered if they might be Black Tree miniatures. But they look a little different.
Maybe another third party?

>>54648504
You can't field Chaos Gods, anon.

>>54648668
After his age of, no thanks I'm done with the guy.

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>>54648516
>Chaos
>Manly

This is a real man.

He has no gods, and killed Fate for presuming it had power over him.

>>54648668
Shallya only gives chaste handholdings and Christian side-hugs.

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Anybody got any of the old lore of these guys?

>>54648368
Nah. Hashut or bust, little faggot.

>119,215 GC 17/9

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>>54646802
Maybe Chaos god themed units? Like a Khorne Chosen with Great Weapons, and a Slannesh themed Chosen with axes.
>>54646865
Yeah because chained slayers being used by fanatics as blunt instruments, and goblin suicide grudge throwers are generic?

>>54648946
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Fimir

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>>54648946

>>54648946
Swamp monsters who worship chaos.

>>54649045
They don't worship the big four any more though. They worship lesser gods and daemon princes.

I rewatched the dark elf trailer, and I have new appreciation for it based on the behavior of the high elves in it. Sure, they went down like scrubs, but they were face to face against Malekith, an ancient and powerful asshole. Before then though, as they were fleeing archers covered corners, when the hydra showed up they clearly mustered their grit and held the line with determination instead of (rightfully) shitting themselves and running uselessly. Makes me look forward to the high elf trailer.

>>54649165
They got slaughtered by a Darth Vader Clone. Besides they aint getting a trailer.

>>54648946
They kidnap human women and buttfuck them right in the pussy.

>>54649165
Yeah, I liked the attention they put into the small unit tactics in that short clip.

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So on the subject of half-elves again, wouldn't the most likely candidates for this be half-druchii? The druchii are the only elves we know who regularly fuck humans (as slaves), so I have to imagine occasionally you get a pregnancy. Though I can't see the druchii letting a pregnancy like that come to term.

>>54649283
druchii probably don't care about what happens to the babby.

>>54649283
>Though I can't see the druchii letting a pregnancy like that come to term.

Hey, more slaves. The bay would probably require too much food and care before being useful, so just give it to the witches for sacrifice, and/or lunch. If you're lucky the mom's gonna be hilarious about it.

>>54649325
I imagine you'd very rarely get a half-elf baby out of rescues performed on druchii corsairs, too. Though those babies probably mostly get thrown down the well or given to the witch hunters.

>>54649283
I guess they'd keep it if they fuck so many men of either race that they're not sure who is the father.
What do half elves look like?

>>54649384
I don't think there's a consistent answer on that. Apparently enough like an elf that a slayer who screwed one recognized what she was and she was mistaken for a full elf by later commentators.

I have to guess it varies somewhat whether the human or elven traits dominate physically. I wonder at the spiritual end of things, like magic potential, and lifespan.

>>54649426
It would likely be a compromise. Long lived, perhaps around the lifespan of dwarfs, maybe a bit less because of the human blood. More magical potential than most humans but less than elves.

>>54649426
So an elf that's too human.

>>54648857
Uuuhh...Frank Frazetta's Death-Dealer?

>>54649283
I could see them raising it just to have a kid they could raise wrong. As a joke.

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>>54649024
>>54649041
>actually worthwhile responses
I'm shocked

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>>54650039
Considering how time is experienced differently by elves I could see that happening.

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>>54650039
Or raised as a freak for the fighting pits.

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>>54646831
>Not Joan of Arc explicitly taking up arms against the invaders chosen by the will of the Lady so recognized as a unique case (and she should totally be brought back as an LL for TWW, once more by the will of the Lady)
They actually had that. The 6th ed army book just removed a ton of the special characters (in addition to making Bretonnian society basically the worst possible example of feudal cliches).

>>54650168
I imagine they'd be too human for that and would thus die quickly.

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>>54648946
Gimme a sec friend, someone did a dump a while back.

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>>54650486

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>>54650500

>>54650282
I do agree that Bretonnia is cliche as it ended up, but I feel that 5e was a little too...bright and shiny. A little bland. GW did a poor job of fixing that with 6e since they just shoved mud all over it, but at least they tried to make Bretonnia unique and I feel like it did stand out more. All they really needed to do was have them take the medieval bits to 110% - I've seen some of the concept art, they could have pulled it off. Giving Bretonnia things beyond just 'medieval stuff' would have really helped to, like how the Empire strains on the boundaries of 'Renaissance HRE' what with wizards and magic cannons and clockwork monstrosities and griffons/demigryphs.

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>>54650582

>>54649384
In Gilead's Blood elves mistook half-elf for human, though they described him as lightly build and graceful.

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>>54650601
I'd like it noted, though I cannot be certain, that from what I can tell from pictures Fimir seemed to be depicted as more human-sized than troll-sized.

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>>54650654
The last bits aren't fluff-related, but I'd like to include them for completeness' sake. Just pictures of the mine and town.

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>>54650730
And for the final picture, a few of the miniatures - note the large base size. Hope the dump was enjoyable enough.

>>54650552
demigryphs are shit

>>54650610
I imagine it must be either 'looks human' or 'looks elven,' then.

So what are the power rankings for the Chaos Gods in WHF?

Im guessing

>Khorne
>Nurgle
>Slanesh
>Tzeentch

>>54650789
It goes:
Khorne.
Tzeentch.
Nurgle.
Slaanesh.

Though Nurgle can be more powerful than all others combined when his plagues have a massive death count, then be even weaker than Slaanesh after they've run their course.

>>54650749
I can't get mad at them now that I've seen them in Total Warhammer. They're actually pretty cute, and surprisingly helpful against chariots.

>>54642256
WHO CLAIMS THUS THAT I HAVE NOT?

>>54650610
There are too many factors to this thing that almost never happens.

>>54650815
How is Tzeentch #2? Most of old world isn't big on education, is it from his cult in (not!)-china?

>>54642390
> Pollution. Sometimes an object becomes magic because it was present for or integral in a great happening.
Can somebody give an example of this?

>>54650971
Hope and ambition is a big part of his being, not just being a huge book reading nerd. Plenty of people desire power, it's just not as good as flat out warfare.

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>>54651008

>>54650624
>I'd like it noted, though I cannot be certain, that from what I can tell from pictures Fimir seemed to be depicted as more human-sized than troll-sized.
The conventional wisdom is that the sculptor got the size wrong. But this page (>>54650486) does say 'Shapes could be seen within it - large shapes, which didn't look like Ogres'.
Which seems to imply that they are Ogre-sized, but not Ogre-shaped.

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>>54650877
>Fithvael set down his herbs. Such a thing was not totally unheard of, in the tales, but still… One of elf kind and a human female? It could explain the boy’s fragile looks and his graceful strength. In fact, now Fithvael saw it, he fancied he saw something new in the boy’s ancestry. And yet, was it truly possible for the races to mingle so?

>Such a thing was not totally unheard of

Also 40k and WFB are same universe, therefore half-eldar are still thing.

>>54650815
Chaos in the Old World would suggest the order is:

Khorne
Nurgle
Tzeentch
Slaanesh

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>>54651124
>>Also 40k and WFB are same universe

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>>54651160

>>54651124
>not unheard of
It warms my heart to know love can still bloom in the grimy peasant lands full of horrible monsters and antisocial edgelords.

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>>54651171
You realize how old that is, right? And how many changes both settings have gone through? I know you're posting it to get (you)s, like the last person did, so let's just leave it at that.

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>>54651234
How do explain Draigo cameo and pic related?

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>>54651171
>rogue trader

>>54651248
>aos/end times
Different settings, different rules.

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>>54651248
End Times garbage.
AoS shit.

Bait a little harder next time.

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>>54651315
>>54651280
Liber Chaotica isn't End Times.

>>54651328
Liber Chaotica, while an interesting read, is also a bit dated. Which is beside the point as neither of the previous examples listed in >>54651248 have anything to do with Libre Chaotica.

>>54651357
It came 11 years ago in 7th edition.

>>54651328
>defeat dark elf raiders
>keep sorceress alive as a spoil of war
>she births a son after being in my "care" for a year
>a very human-looking son
>that can use magic n shiet
>cue 50 years later he finds out and tells all the dark elves malekith literally has no dick because it got burnt off
>he gets mocked to death and everyone gets eaten by skaven

>>54651060
It's hard to say - maybe the art came first, then the model mistake, and then they tweaked the fluff since it would be strange if they were described as man-sized when they obviously weren't. Or maybe it was just a poorly stated model and it was always meant to be large, I don't know.

Either way, I'm glad they're bringing them back. Something I didn't realize I missed about them was the Celtic theme - the primitive bronze armor, the triskelles and Celtic-style scrollwork everywhere, the helmets that look more similar to those of the ancient world than of the medieval one. And it's something you could theoretically plop in a variety of places all around the Old World, not just isolated Albion.

>>54651384
Liber Chaotica was a combination of the four books first released in 2003 and finished in 2004. 7th edition came out in 2006.

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>>54651255
Er, Lofn and... Who's the second one? And what's she(?) holding?

>>54651124
Eldar were created, Elves uplifted.

Elves evolved naturally.

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>>54651467
I suspect Lilith bastard child. Have astartes x eldar son.

>>54651471
Both were created or uplifted depending on sources.

>>54651357
>End Times/AoS is not canon
>But Liber Chaotica is too dated
What's the time frame for canon here? Four years?

The Warhammer World is and always has been part of a shared multiverse with 40k. From 40k's release, the Realms of Chaos books, the magic items from Dark Shadows, short stories and Liber Chaotica to the End Times and Age of Sigmar.

Now, what is up for debate is the idea that the Warhammer World is a planet in 40k and whether the races have the same origins.
Most of the modern background implies that they are separate universes with a shared Warp. Hell, that's kind of a prerequisite for Age of Sigmar.

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>>54651520
That is disconcerting. Thank you. Back on topicish, here's this image.

>There will never be a Lizardmen book for WHFRP on the same level of depth and detail as the other 2E books
why live

>>54651654
4th edition? WFRP is in work. I hope there will be Ulthuan and Naggaroth because of Total War Warhammer.

>>54651654
Cubicle 7 expressed an interest in doing a Lustria book.
So never say never.

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>>54651536
I generally like the 6th edition way of things, but I do pick and choose a few things from 7th to use in WFRP.

I'm not against them being in some multivere like an 'infinite earths' idea. My problem is that people see similar races and say "Hey they must be in the same setting" when that idea was dropped for a long time and the story has changed quite a bit as well. The Old Ones created races in both settings but for different enemies. The Chaos Gods could fear individuals for being very powerful, but completely different types of individuals. They had some surface level similarities but worked for different reasons. One of the worst parts of 8th edition was making the fluff work more like 40k, like Slaanesh having some preference for elf souls which wasn't mentioned before, only that S/He offered them something the other Chaos Gods couldn't.

Basically it's mixing stuff nobody wanted mixed together. It just cheapens one setting while barely affecting the other, and also has 40k fans have to deal with AoS which I'm quite sure they want no part of.

>>54651654
New WFRP edition coming out. I'll bet you one whole dollar that there will be a Lustria supplement.

>>54651677
>New WFRP edition coming out.
Seriously? That's great news. I hope it's good. That being said though: I doubt the books are going to on the same level of quality as the second edition ones. I've yet to read any book that was so comprehensive or got me as excited to roleplay as the 2E ones.

>>54651467
Knowing the actual canon only makes that picture all the more hilarious.

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>>54651705
It's possible they could turn out mediocre, but I'm hoping for the best ever since I read that they're basing it on 1st and 2nd edition. Which hopefully means minimal tools for playing a game (book, dice, pen and paper) and interesting supplements. I just hope for a bit better editing than 2nd edition, which sometimes wasn't structured as well as it could have been.

>>54651705
While I haven't seen any of their other stuff, Cubicle 7's One Ring books tend to be pretty good. So I have hope they'll do justice for WFRP too.

>>54651654
I don't think it's impossible with the new edition coming out.

Let's hope that Cubicle 7 realizes the good bit of information already present about humans and dwarves, and just does a rush job of it. It's okay if they do, since they've got 3 editions to pretty much copy and paste from. Maybe with a nod and a wink they can make their rules pretty compatible with 2e, since most people seem very happy with that.

Whatever they do, I feel like if they started working outside humans, they'd have to start with Elves first. Then maybe Dark Elves, and then it's up for grabs whether Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Ogres, Chaos Dwarves...

The only worry I have is that they might set up the Lizardmen as an 'NPC faction.' You know, like how in 2e when it would talk about some races it would go 'these aren't really intended to be player characters, but if you reaaaallly want,' that sort of thing. And they don't get the same level of fleshing out. And I wouldn't be too surprised at that, because the Lizardmen as a whole are really isolated in a way that even the Dark Elves aren't.

>>54651248
No one here cares about Smegmar or ET garbage, no one here cares what gay-ass shit 40k says, either.

>>54651387
that would amuse the hell out of me if Malekith got his shit pushed in by a rape baby as evil as he is

>>54651705
Supposedly 2nd is their primary inspiration.

Even if it's mediocre or bad, at least it's not third; it's the closest we'll get to 3rd's grave being spat on, and that satisfies me immensely.

>>54651705
1st Edition actually had the best campaign from the series: The Enemy Within.

>>54651968
I mean... I liked the home-brewed Endhammer stuff trying to salvage End Times

>>54650736
Thank you kindly, anon. This is more than I could have hoped for

>>54651804
Dark elves are playable even in 2nd, just trade SWG (Longbow) for SWG (Crossbow) and give them Torture proficiency from chargen. Done.

>>54651804
One of the strengths of 2E was that it had books for many things that would be written off as NPC races: Skaven and vampires. I really wish they commited to it more to be honest. Let's see a greenskins book, they work far better as a party than an Ork ever would in Rogue Trader.

>>54652134
And yet no books for tilea/estalia...

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>>Which should be the first supplement book for WFRP 4ed?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13600132

I included the last four because why not, even if they're extremely unlikely. I also didn't include Skaven since they had a proper book in 2nd.

>>54652295
Lizardmen need a book badly. I want to go on a lustrian adventure with lizard bros.

>>54652295
>>54652215
ALSO NO DWARVES, IDIOT. THE MOST OBVIOUS

>>54652295
Well, assuming not even 2e ever got a supplement book for Dwarfs... definitely not them. I'd say none of these are likely except maybe Tilea.

More likely would be Border Princes.

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This man ruined our game,show him how we deal with traitors here

>>54652295
Dwarfs got a 1ed supplement.

also
>No Chaos Dwarfs/Darklands

>>54652295
Give me the ability to run a Greenskins campaign.

>>54652325
There was Karak Azgal but that was an adventure book.

>>54652335
I bunched races together so I didn't have a list over 20 choices long. Elves means High/Wood/Dark/Neutral. Dwarfs means Dwarfs/Chaos/Empire born, etc.

>>54652325
>Border Princes
Their supplement for 2ed was fine.

>>54652358
Which is why I think they'll do it again in 4e.

>>54652353
>Bunching elves/dwarfs together

Nigga you dun goofed.

>>54652134
>>54652215

There were plans for a dwarf, elf, and orc expansion. Rumor was before Fagtasy Flight Games pushed out Jew edition that the next splat was in either Araby or Nehekhara.

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>>54652381
It's for the sake of space, don't be autismo. If High Elves are getting a book, I want Dark Elves and Wood Elves and anything in between in there like Druchii Anointed or those born in Marienburg.

>>54652327
The parents are the problem.

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>>54652327
>>Dear Mannfred...

>>54652412
There's a difference between wantig a High Elf splat and wanting a wood elf splat, son.

Especially given the four jerk-off options listed.

>>54652602
Yes, but I like big books. No reason you couldn't have all of elf history and then branch off into the three main peoples.

>>54642670
>MUH BOOBPLATES NO BOOBPLATE=SEXISS
>Ok, here :^)
>N-NOOO

>>54651248
>Age of Smegmar

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>>54642256
No thank you.

>>54652295
What even is that building on the map anyway?

>>54644001
Love the tentacle!

>>54652814
A manor near Grey Lady Pass, I think.

>>54652035
Endhammer? Where?

>>54643671
Where can I read this story?

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>>54652847
It was something that was mostly done in-thread, I think. Theories on how the End Times could have gone over a different way. Kind of fizzled out over time. All I have left from it are some homebrewed ideas about Ind as a kingdom of beastmen.

>>54652847
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Endhammer

People kinda gave up editing it after an argument over what should happen with the elves was never resolved.

It was basically meant to be "how can we salvage End Times and make it an interesting 'move the plot forward' event, as opposed to an 'end the fucking setting' event." Reach the best and most interesting plotlines and stories through arguing it out like a bunch of faggots here.

Unfortunately, some people took the "be a gigantic faggot" thing too much.

>>54652983
Beast anon! Cool you're still here.

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>>54653011
>>54652983
>>54652847
Some anon created the Icon.

I'll admit, they had some out-there ideas, like Semi-Civilized Beastmen in Ind and a "good" Norscan taking over northern Ostland. But it was kinda the point to come up with off-the-wall shit.

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>>54653011
Oh no, I didn't make them. At best I was a random anon interjecting ideas at points. I just kept them because I thought it was an interesting take on beastmen 'civilization.'

>>54653011
>>54652983
Huh, interesting. Shame it's dead. I'm guessing the big problem is the Malekith thing?

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>>54653038
I can't remember - as far as I remember, it just started losing steam. People got less interested in talking about reworking the Old World as much as talking about what had came before.

And some of the ideas started to strain what people had liked about the factions in the first place, I think. Like how the flower of Bretonnian chivalry got more or less massacred, so peasants were suddenly the only ones really left in charge. It was a natural enough progression, but what's Bretonnia without their knights?

>>54653077
I am reminded of this scene from Kingdom of Heaven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5Bi-6jqe4

Knights can be made, my friend! I thought that' was what was cool about Endhammer's Bretonnia -- a bunch of peasants and merchants being uplifted to the status of Knight... to ward off the threats of Chaos and the Undead.

>>54653038
Doesn't have to be dead. Could always be revived. It used to be part of the WHF General intro post. Read it over. Say if you've got ideas.

>>54653169
Hm. Well, I'll look it over. If I get ideas, I'll throw them in the thread then.

>>54653283
The general gist of the Beastmen ideas was that Empire/Bretonnian/"European" Beastmen remain the Beastmen we've always known. But, to jazz things up a bit, we decided to make Ind semi-relevant by having it get conquered by Beastmen, and building off the old lore which said there were some non-anarchic beastmen in Ind.

Going through liber chaotica and and I'm wondering if a Kurgan list is possible to build

I'm reading my way through the various WFRP books, and was wondering if anyone could recommend which ones to look at to get a good 'feel' for life in the Empire? Especially if it delves into regional stuff (thinking about a Middenheimer).

>>54653644
Middenheim: City of Chaos - 1ed supplement.

Would a dwarf seek revenge on a character due to the character's great grandfather's sins?

>>54653828
Depending on the nature of the grudge, definitely.

>>54653870
Yeah, I'm figuring misleading a dwarf into what was thought to be a heroic adventure only to at the last second backstab for infernal power would be a potent grudge.

So, great grandson has no way out of this grudge that doesn't result in either his death, or getting another grudge for slaying a dwarf in self defense?

>>54653907
>So, great grandson has no way out of this grudge that doesn't result in either his death, or getting another grudge for slaying a dwarf in self defense?

Depends on how flexible/reasonable the PC/dwarf is. They could get away with a weregild and debasing the family name, recording for all the world to see his grandparents sins.

If you get real creative with it, the Dwarf could settle for the PC going on a pilgrimage to Karaz-a-Karak to plead his case before the Dammaz Kron and balance the scales.

Seems a good time to ask with the dwarf fans on board - would finding out that your father was a Chaos Dwarf spy be enough for a dwarf to shave his head over?

>>54654051
It's good to know there are options. All I heard in a tavern was that a crew of tough looking dwarfs were looking for me. Having recently found out about my great grandfather's misdeeds (Which also explained a certain curse), I managed to put two and two together.

I'm playing the guy with the fallen great grand dady, no one is playing the dwarf. I think. It's a play by email sort of situation.

>>54654091
If your character's family got rich on what the grandpappy did, expect to be asked to hand all of that over to the dwarf.

>>54654146
Well I hope that doesn't happen since I already own a particularly cutthroat marienburger for a missing boat.