/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Modern Spearhead

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>>54638194
You beat to it by literally five minutes anon
Do have something to post? If so I'll add what I did after

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August 1st in military history
626 Persians & Avars abandon siege of Constantinople (begun June 29)
902 The Arabs capture Taormina, the last Byzantine naval base in Sicily
939 Battle of Simancas: Asturians defeat the Andalucian Arabs
1096 Walter the Penniless, Peter the Hermit, and the "Beggars' Crusade" reach Constantinople
1209 Crusaders besiege Albigenian-held Carcassone (falls, 15th)
1423 Battle of Cravant: English longbowmen devastate attacking French
1578 Battle of Rimenant: Dutch defeat the Spanish
1664 Battle of Szentgotthard: Austrian crush Turkish invaders
1675 Battle of Altenheim: The French defeat the Imperialists
1759 Battle of Minden: English infantry attacks & routs French cavalry
1781 Cornwallis' British army occupies Yorktown, Virginia
1848 Battle of Crotta d'Adda: Austrians defeat the Piedmontese
1914 German Emperor Wilhelm II declares war on his nephew Tsar Nicholas II of Russia
1918 British troops occupy Vladivostok
1940 Soviets occupy Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia
1942 Allied fleets begin diversionary moves to mask the Guadalcanal operation
1943 Blackett Str: "Tokyo Express" to Kolombangara tangles with 15 PT-boats
1943 Japan declares Burma independent under U Ba Maw
1943 Kiska: U.S. surface ships shell suspected Japanese positions.
1944 Chinese hold Japanese before Hengyang.
1944 George S. Patton's Third Army begins 281 days of operations
1944 Marines crush Japanese resistance on Tinian
1944 Warsaw Uprising: the Polish Home Army begins a 62-day insurrection against the Nazis, as the Soviets stand idle nearby
1945 The Yangtze: U.S. air dropped mines sink or damage 47 Japanese ships.
1966 Military coup in Nigeria installs Army Chief-of-Staff Yakubu Gowon as President/Dictator (1966-1975)

/hwg/ in a nutshell

>WHAT COLOR IS FELDGRAU
>hot diggety
>Lion Rampart
>WW2 IS THE LEAST TACTICAL WAR
>Scales exist below 25mm??
>Camo has no real world benefit
>SOMEONE TEACH ME ASL IM STUPID

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Well then I was going to do Minden, so here we are:

It is 258 years since the Battle of Minden, a decisive engagement during the Seven Years' War. An Anglo-German army under the overall command of Field Marshal Ferdinand of Brunswick defeated a French army commanded by Marshal of France, Marquis de Contades. Two years prior, the French had launched a successful invasion of Hanover and attempted to impose an unpopular treaty of peace upon the allied nations of Britain, Hanover and Prussia. After a Prussian victory at Rossbach, and under pressure from Frederick the Great and William Pitt, King George II disavowed the treaty. In 1758, the Allies launched a counter-offensive against the French forces and drove them back across the Rhine.

After failing to defeat the French before reinforcements swelled their retreating army, the French launched a fresh offensive, capturing the fortress of Minden on 10 July. Believing Ferdinand's forces to be over-extended, Contades abandoned his strong positions around the Weser and advanced to meet the Allied forces in battle.

In an exception to the norm for the era, Contades placed his artillery in the centre protected only by the cavalry, with his infantry on either flank. The battle began on the French right flank, where Marshal de Broglie, who commanded the reserve, began an artillery duel against the allied left.

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>>54638387
The decisive action of the battle took place in the centre, famously due to a misunderstanding of orders. Friedrich von Spörcken's division, composed of the infantry of the British contingent of the allied army and supported by the Hanoverian Guards, actually advanced to attack the French cavalry. It is reported that they had been ordered "to advance [up-]on the beating of drums" (i.e., advance when the signal drums begin to beat,) misunderstanding this as "to advance to the beating of drums" (i.e., advance immediately while beating drums.) Since the French cavalry was still in its ranks and the famous 'hollow square' had not yet been developed, it was assumed by all that the six leading British regiments were doomed. Despite being under constant artillery fire, the six regiments (soon supported by two Hanoverian battalions), by maintaining fierce discipline and closed ranks, drove off repeated cavalry charges with musket fire and inflicted serious casualties on the French. Contades reportedly said bitterly, "I have seen what I never thought to be possible—a single line of infantry break through three lines of cavalry, ranked in order of battle, and tumble them to ruin!"

Supported by the well-served British and Hanoverian artillery, the entire allied line eventually advanced against the French army and sent it fleeing from the field. The only French troops capable of mounting any significant resistance were those of de Broglie, who formed a fighting rear guard.

Prince Ferdinand's army suffered nearly 2,800 men killed and wounded; the French lost about 7,000 men. In the wake of the battle the French retreated southwards to Kassel. The defeat ended the French threat to Hanover for the remainder of that year.

Any personal accounts from survivors of line battles, I wanna feel how terrifying it is to stand in a line waiting for a bullet to hit you

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>>54638398
In Britain the result at Minden was widely celebrated and was seen as part of Britain's Annus Mirabilis of 1759 also known as the "Year of Victories", although there was some criticism of Ferdinand for not following up his victory more aggressively. In France the reaction to the result was severe. The Duc de Choiseul, the French Chief Minister, wrote "I blush when I speak of our army. I simply cannot get it into my head, much less into my heart, that a pack of Hanoverians could defeat the army of the King".

The British regiments which fought at Minden (with the successor British army unit which still uphold their traditions) were:

Royal Artillery
12th Foot (Suffolk Regiment), now part of The Royal Anglian Regiment
20th Foot (Lancashire Fusiliers), now part of the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
23rd Foot (Royal Welch Fusiliers), now the 1st Battalion, The Royal Welsh (Royal Welch Fusiliers)
25th Foot (King's Own Scottish Borderers), now The Royal Scots Borderers (1st Battalion The Royal Regiment of Scotland)
37th Foot (Royal Hampshire Regiment), now part of the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment
51st Foot (King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry), now part of The Rifles

The descendents of these units are still known as "the Minden Regiments."

When the British infantry and artillery were first advancing to battle they passed through some German gardens and the soldiers picked roses and stuck them in their coats. In memory of this, each of the Minden regiments marks 1 August as Minden Day. On that day the men of all ranks wear roses in their caps. Every year from 1967 to 2016, six red roses have been anonymously delivered to the British consulate in Chicago on 1 August.

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>>54638411
Minden is a fascinating prospect for a wargame. While its size and colour make it appealing as a spectacle, the miscommunications and complicated allegiances means the battle could get totally out of the player's hands, and the challenge then becomes seizing the initiative first.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/gst8vzz6cmqtzom/Osprey+-+MAA+285+-+King+George%27s+Army+1740-93+%281%29.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hw2yncm97j089cr/Osprey+-+MAA+289+-+King+George%27s+Army+1740-93+%282%29.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/47ia2b0flhkl418/Osprey+-+MAA+292+-+King+George%27s+Army+1740-93+%283%29.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/file/6ph3hu62w53wv59/Osprey+-+MAA+236+-+Frederick+the+Great%27s+Army+%281%29+Cavalry.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/u1dpro286e54ttq/Osprey+-+MAA+240+-+Frederick+the+Great%27s+Army+%282%29+Infantry.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gkwd6kmmdtha155/Osprey+-+MAA+248+-+Frederick+the+Great%27s+Army+%283%29+Specialist+Troops.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/8v3v4t9qcmzxle7/Osprey+-+MAA+460+-+Frederick+the+Great%27s+Allies+1756-1763.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/download/z1qrgz9gzi1wlep/Osprey+-+MAA+296+-+Louis+XV%27s+Army+%281%29+Heavy+Cavalry+%26+Dragoons.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/e4rr8o3gg1mpc9m/Osprey+-+MAA+302+-+Louis+XV%27s+Army+%282%29+French+Infantry.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o6je11dh0p82j6v/Osprey+-+MAA+304+-+Louis+XV%27s+Army+%283%29+Foreign+Infantry.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5pkvn34b4u6g2u0/Osprey+-+MAA+308+-+Louis+XV%27s+Army+%284%29+Light+Troops+and+Specialists.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wij5mloyxd0d5sc/Osprey+-+MAA+313+-+Louis+XV%27s+Army+%285%29+Colonial+and+Naval-Troops.pdf

>>54638248
Nope I got nothing anon. Glad you turned up because I was dreading writing up the WW1 Declaration of War on Russia and the Warsaw Uprising.

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>>54638252
Timeline-wise today is also the anniversary of the start of the Batavian Rebellion in AD 69, and the Ploesti Raid in 1943.

>>54638402
Line infantrymen rarely left memoirs, most could barely write anyway. An interesting exception is "A Soldier Of The 71st", which is an anonymous account of nine years of soldiering in that regiment, covering South America, Spain and Waterloo. It has some memorable accounts of being in the thick of it.

>>54638431
Amazing timing, I was literally just about to post. Good work anyway, Eastern Front WW1 doesn't get enough love.

Every soldier that fought in ww1 is gay, FACT

tell me about stlaingrad

>>54638460
There would have been moments of gayness for sure in all soldiers. They would have ll experienced queer happenings as well Because in WW1 'gay' mean't happy and 'queer' meant strange or unusual

>>54638194
Any Italianons who can tell me the difference between archibugiere and scoppiettiere? As far as I can tell using google, it seems both terms refer to an arquebusier.

>>54638402
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Roch_Coignet

This guy has left memoirs. He started as a simple soldier.

>>54638292
Well, that was last thread but not every thread.

We used to have people who actually played games and posted pictures, sometimes even non ww2.

>>54638292
I sure hope we see some hot diggety in this thread.

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>>54638512
it was a dark and stormy night, the German sixth army was surrounded in what was known as "the kessel". They had fought themselves to a standstill in Stalingrad, with the Red army feeding in endless men to prevent the capture of the city. The shelling and bombing just made it better for hiding in. Bitter street fighting was never what the Wehrmacht were designed for and they lost all momentum. Winter set in and eventually the Red army, who had been learning from the Wehrmacht the entire time, began to carry out their own offensives.

Somewhere on the Romanian lines, securing the flanks of the Sixth army, a unit of infantry huddled in a trench during a snowstorm. Suddenly the ground began to shake and the sound of tank tracks became audible over the blowing wind. How was this possible? no one would launch an attack in these conditions - even if they could they would never be able to navigate tanks!!
The Russian T-34s, driving by compass in the blizzard, smashed into the Romanian trenches, spewing machine gun fire and high explosive rounds. The Romanians didn't stand a change - who could fight in this bitter cold!?
As the flanks closed around the German Sixth army, they were completely cut off - the cauldron was formed.

Less than 10% of the German soldiers who left to fight on the eastern front would return alive...

What's everyone's opinion on blood and plunder? Or more specifically the ships, they look beautiful, but I haven't seen any painted pictures not from the studio

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>>54640466
Personally, I love it. Only have one painted ship so far, second is on the workbench.

>>54640505
She's Beautiful, I have got to get me a sloop

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>>54640626
That she is. And her bigger sisters aren't looking bad either.

(I have one each of the Sloop, the Brigantine and the Frigate).

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>>54640466
I was just reading a blogpost about it the other day
https://arteis.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/blood-plunder-pirate-game-on-exquisite-terrain/

>>54640626
>>54640687
I now have a strange urge to get a French sloop and call it the Jean B

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Just remembered I promised an anon I'd post Ivan's WWI rules since they apparently are unavailable for sale.

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>>54641362
Thanks anon

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does anyone know if the warlord games morion helmets would fit heroic scale heads?

>>54641640
Warlords minis are heroic.

>>54641640
Depends on just how heroic the heads are, we could be talking like G.I. Joe all the way up to Superman after all.

>>54641676
GW scale. I'm working on some not! Swiss guard for armies on parade so I have to use actual GW miniatures.

>>54641668
oh, I thought they were Perry style true scale

>>54641713
Depends which sets they're selling. The plastic Woodland Indians and the German Grenadiers are clearly from different universes.

>>54641796
Their legionaries and hail caesar shit seems to be true scale and their WW2 and Napoleonic is heroic. This is only my experience though

>>54641863
>Their legionaries
I have a set of auxiliary troops and they are heroicscale. But my warlord hoplites are truescale

>>54642744
Because those are not made by Warlord but by fuck if I remember who. They bought the company, like with the woodland injuns and AWI figs.

>>54641690
GW isn't a scale, it's a siz...wait wut?

>>54642890
I just want to know if those morions will fit on my empire dudes ;_;

>>54642780
Wargames Factory?

>>54643384
No, they haven't reissued those. Immortal Miniatures, I think.

>>54643337
What edition? 6th, probably a touch too small, but could work, 7th and it'll work nicely. I'd advise looking for heads with morions already on them, think Warlord has them as well.

>>54643518
I'm using the 7th edition plastic Greatswords as the base, just wondering if I can slice their hats off and add the morions or whether I need to order some bare heads to use.

>>54643564
Yes, that'll work.

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>>54643658
tyvm famalam

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>10 days and warlord still hasn't even shipped my order
>it's not even a large order, just two cav blisters and bases

>>54644494
I got an email from them that said due to some issue they had delayed shipping a bunch of orders and that my order should be shipped on the 31st or 1st with better shipping.

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Bump to survive the night

come back ASLanon

>>54640747
Is that the new galleon? That's one big woman

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Bump

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>>54651639
From what I can tell from the blog, it's a 3D printed piece. The guy who actually ran the game owns a company which does that sort of thing.

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Just finished watching a recent Forgotten Weapons vid on the Breda Modello 30, apparently the worst LMG ever made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFJI04ifSoM&
Jesus Italy, wtf

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>>54656629
A machine gun that has magazines of only 10 rounds

>>54657102
>technically only has 1 magazine, permanently connected to the gun which can be hinged open and reloaded with stripper clips

>>54657102
Video said 20

>>54656629
I bet Lindybeige still thinks it's better than the Spandau

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>>54657631
Nothing better than a Bren

>>54657631
Can someone explain lindybeige to me? I watched one of his videos in which he claimed to be something of an expert on military history, and then repeated a bunch of outdated misconceptions about medieval and ancient warfare. Why is he so popular?

>>54657994
He said vegans should be force fed lard and got fired from his job (i think at a museum).

>>54657994
Watch more of his videos and see the exact opposite. When he proposes an idea he always mentions he's by no way an expert on the topic, just his personal ramblings.

>>54657674
I'm still puzzled that Wehraboos still think of the MG34/42 like weeaboos think of the katana. It's not like he made valid points that were proven true by history or anything.

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>>54657994
The only thing at all I know about this guy is that he is or was a real fan of Arty Conliffe's old Crossfire rules, which makes it virtually impossible to discuss them because he gets brought up every time you do

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Hi,
any chance to obtain Perry's Firepower ACW Rules form their ACW "battle in a box" boxed set ?
Thank you

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>>54657994
>Why is he so popular?

I don't know. Got sick of his shit soon after he started when I saw him dismiss evidence out of hand then use that same exact evidence later on to support his argument like he hadn't just tried to invalidate it for no good reason. Even accounting for 'just opinions', people listen to and believe him.

If you can be arsed, check youtube for 'response to lindybeige' videos and you will find and endless stream of much better people saying he's wrong and why in detail. Which is the problem, he spews bullshit but because he does it so fast it takes more time to explain why he's wrong than it does for him to generate more wrongness.

>>54658679
Good rules, though.

>>54658894
He makes rant videos with little regard for factual correctness but pretends to be a history expert.

>>54638599
- "scoppiettiere" : 15th and 16th century infantry soldier armed with a firearm calls "scoppietto".

- "scoppietto" ( or "schioppetto" or "schioppo" ) is a hand cannon.

>>54656629

Ask me about the Italian army in WW2.

You know that a single man designed all Italian armoured vehicles between 1933 and 1943?

That troops in North Africa managed to endure even 30 months of warfare without R&R?

That Mussolini ordered half of the Army to be disbanded just before declaring war to Greece?

That Italy had better radar tech than the Allies but the Admiralty refused to use it as "it will never catch on"?

It's like an endless comedy, just with 400k dead people and a civil war as a result.

>>54659619
Why is Italy so damn idiotic?

>>54659619
They are like the Baltic fleet of WW2.

>>54659644
>>54659666

Ahh, a common question! Point is, Italy in WW2 was the heir of a fascinating series of problems. I can sperg about the subject at length, but it can be summarized as "The Fascist State , despite having great but partial power on the nation for twenty years, utterly failed to manage, and arguably worsened, many of the traditional problems of Italian society".

The list is frankly endless: from the overall strategy on foreign policy, focused on dispersal of forces (managing to be weak everywhere and failing to concentrate in essential fronts - fun example, the best AT guns were sent in Russia to become Soviet war prizes instead of sending them in NA -) to a frankly embarassing lack of priorities. Sum that with endless squabbling between competing powers, a officer culture that rewarded complacency, inefficiency and power cliques (while apparently focusing on élan).

It's almost dizzing. The overall strategy wasn't there, the Fascist party failed at propaganda and political motivation, the people lacked the guts for war and trust in the regime and in their allies, the officer corps were terrible, weapons were outdated , badly built, or the result of corruption and shady deals, resources were squandered in idiotic pursuits....

Pretty much the only thing that worked in the Italian army was the common man, sent to fight a senseless war with shitty weapons. I remember a letter from a soldier in NA (guy was killed shortly afterward) : "They told us blood and flesh (meaning "fighting spirit") were superior to machines: well, they aren't. In the War between blood and steel machines triumph."

Anon,
scoppettiere doesn't mean arquibusier, because the "scoppietto" was an early type of black powder weapon, more a hand cannon than an arquibuse.

>>54657631
But it is...

Well boys asked last thread but want more opinions... anyway what's the general consensus of the battlegroup ruleset? Don't like how "meme" flames of wars rules are and was hoping it's different with battlegroup.

>>54662103
>Don't like how "meme" flames of wars rules
This is meaningless

>>54662324
Let me put it this way. I don't like how typecast the various national armies are in flames of war. Say for instance hordes of soviet cannon fodder, or superior German tactics and engineering. Or the fact I can get parking lots full of tanks shooting at one another. I just want a better game and was hoping battlegroup does that.

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>>54662428
I can't speak from personal experience, but I've only ever heard positive things about Battlgroup from discussion in this general.

Particularly when compared to Flames of War.

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My By Fire and Sword Cossack skirmish force.

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>>54663111
sorry for phone quality

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>>54663140
Hey, another BFAS player. Nice work.

Gott mit uns.

>>54662821
I like them both, and I play them both. Battlegroup is a great system with some really interesting mechanics but it tends to feel a little prone to bogging down when you try to scale up the battles. Platoon+ has worked out wonderfully with their rules, but for anything bigger I still prefer Flames. And if you want to go smaller than a platoon Crossfire's not bad.

>>54657102
The bigger question is: was it mechanically better than the BAR?

>>54657994
He got turned into a meme, and many more souls than just /hwg/ gets to cringe through it.

>>54662428
The problem with Battlegroup, is that it's got too much micro-managing for company scaled games. So while some might not be bothered by the extra time it takes to run things at that range, it'll be needlessly tedious for others.

>>54665583
if you want a beer and pretzels game just play 1940k

>>54665599
No one actually likes Bolt Action. Good try though.

Though really, who wants to track individual casualties at company or battalion level? Autists.

>>54665667
die

>>54665689
Are you just mad because Crossfire's a better game? Or did WGR and ASL touch you when you were young?

>>54665724
ASL as a game is literally impossible to learn, no wonder the only people who play it are those that wrote it 40 years ago

>>54665759
ASLSK is easy, and honestly a satisfying experience on it's own. It's the "full" rules that are generally terrible.

>>54665824
SK is stupid theres only like 5 scenarios for it

>>54665840
That's just sorta not true at all... there's kits and even some historical modules that use just SK.

>>54665928
theres like 3 SK scenarios per SK and the decision at elst. Such a great catalog

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>>54665759
It did touch you somewhere unfortunate didn't it.

>>54665941
6 per SK, Decision at Elst, and all the single scenarios published independent of a larger module. If MMP is smart and continues to put out historical SK kits like Elst, there's plenty to be had.

>>54665964
>>54666013
I just want to learn to play but the game is too hard

>>54659540
Thanks anon!

>>54666141
You might not be old enough to go full grog, anon. It's a process that is usually helped with age and an ex-wife or two.

>>54660128
And thanks to you too, anon, I appreciate the help.

>>54666238
Im 22 and unemployed

>>54666289
Well the lack of funds you can get around by VASL. Honestly I think it's the better way to play the game.

>>54666289
Join the marines and do two enlistments
The stripper you will inevitably marry and divorce and extreme pounding from the green weenie will massively accelerate your decent into the requisite levels of grogdom

>>54667130
Navyfag here, that's actually a pretty decent way to achieve grogvana.

I honestly don't know what it is about the more simulationist games but I have generally always seen them favored by older gamers. I have some personal theories but nothing concrete. Someone should conduct a study.

>>54667130
Not american and my BMI is too low to enlist

>>54667130
>>54667217
I've always found that the hardest core grogs are officers who made O-3 or O-4 and then left.
I don't know why, but this has always been true in my experience

>>54667217
Most of the reason for that is that the older gamers grew up with them. They stopped being popular after the '80s when free time started dropping like mad and GW got big on much easier to get into settings and systems.

>>54667635
>easier to get into
>$50 troop boxes for 10 guys and you need 3 of them for one single unit

Would someone please recommend me a solid 6mm ancients game with ideally easy rules? I saw Baccus has army packs for Hail Caesar and Polemos SPQR, are either of these decent games for a player getting into this line of wargaming?

I'm mostly interested in early imperial Rome and British Celts army wise if that factors into the system

>>54668226
Back in ye aulde dayse when a rhino cost $6.25, and a box of 20 men was a similar cost.

>>54665667
Who wants to track ammo for every vehicle they have?

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>>54665667
>That spoiler

>>54670074
Not in Battlegroup General, that's for sure.

>>54669995
That too. Though, sometimes there's not that many vehicles. Counter-pointing that however, combat loads for most vehicles are well and above the number of times the AFV could fire in a game of Battlegroup.

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>>54668621
Polemos are famous for being noob-friendly
HC I am less sure about, but we do have all their books on hand (thanks to various generous anons) so you could at least read them and see if they suit

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Gaddamn Circle Trigonists.

>>54666141
It was known as a rather difficult game back in the 80s. One can imagine just how insanely complicated it is now.

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>>54671885
Cute helmets though

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Perrys doing an Egypt 1801 game

>>54673644
> "Aboukir Bay was played on Friday morning at Alan’s. After a leisurely lunch we were joined by Aly Morrison and then all adjourned to Michael’s with all the figures and some of the terrain from Aboukir."
> "Alan had set up most of the field for Mandara couple of days before so in an hour we were ready to go again, this time with more troops on both sides."

tfw your life will never include wargaming this leisurely.

>>54659619
That the trains didn't actually run on time?

>>54659619
Sounds actually even worse than what the French did.

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>>54676582

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>>54676633
The 1940 Alpine offensive was a disaster on every level. The Italian superiority in numbers was betrayed by the troops being poorly equipped and such equipment being inferior to that of their French counterparts. The stormy Alpine weather was probably the best ally the French had. The Alpine terrain has been called "perhaps the most unsuitable of all conceivable theatres of operation". The attack through the Little Saint Bernard Pass in the Alps also stalled on the first day due to a massive snow storm. Italian troops stuck in the snow were easy targets for French snipers, and the winding mule trails provided plenty of opportunity for ambushes. The snow also hampered the movement of artillery, food and ammunition to the summits. The leadership and autonomy of French General Olry allowed him to demonstrate remarkable efficiency in the performance of his duty, to check not only the Italian advance, but the German advance down the Rhone as well (which is often overlooked among their blitzkreig successes).

In some cases, the Italians wore their gas masks because of the difficulty of breathing in the driving snow. Advanced troops outran their food supplies and could not be revictualed. For example the front-line commander of the 4th Alpine Division Cuneense complained to the headquarters of the Second Army that he was unable to keep in touch with the troops as he could not move his headquarters up the mountain because of the weather. Italian field kitchens sometimes lacked the pots and pans to provide warm meals. The Italians also had an insufficient number of sappers and poor intelligence of French gun emplacements, making the elimination of the enemy forts impossible. In the assessment of General Emilio Faldella, who commanded the 3rd Alpini Regiment during the invasion, the Italian leadership was asked too much of its soldiers.

Has anyone been generous enough to pirate Ivan's game Scum of the Earth?

im por

>>54677136
How much is it, anon?

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for those interested.

ASL 2nd edition rules are up on the ASL Mediafire in OP

seems they have been there for a while. I just forgot that I had put them up.

>>54677190
$13, aka fuck-all, aka more than I've been able to spend on nerd stuff in the past six months.

yeah, shit excuse, I'm not expecting anyone to post it - I'll probably just leave it on my wishlist until I can pick it up eventually.

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>>54671885
Don't mess with us.

All hail Trigon

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>>54678010

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>>54678022

Somewhat off topic but what did you guys think of Dunkirk?
Dunkirk needs a Bolt Action campaign book if there's nothing on it already.

>>54678247
I've not seen it but the response I've seen is the very definition of 'mixed reviews'.

Some people are saying it's brilliant, others that it's atrocious.

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>>54678247
Extremely tense, amazing visual spectacle
But I found it a transient experience, didn't leave a lasting impression
I do recommend it to WW2 buffs though, and you should definitely see it in cinema, because the sound is incredible

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>>54678247
>Dunkirk needs a Bolt Action campaign book if there's nothing on it already.
The Sealion book would work fine for it I think

BRDM

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Does anyone know if a scan exists of "Normandy Firefight"? It's on Noble Knight for close to thirty dollars, and I can't justify buying it for that price.

Thanks.

>>54678247
I doubt very much if dunkirk will ever get a BA book.

What are the most popular ranges of 15mm ACW miniatures?

>>54681156
you never know with osprey and warlord they probably will do a early war focused campaign book.
since sealion and new ginuea seem popular

>>54681785
They've done one mate. I'm telling you they're very unlikely to do a specific dunkirk book, trust me on this.

Is there a podcast about historical wargames? Not a podcast about the history of warfare. Not a podcast about a specific game like The 2 Half-Squads. I'm talking about a true grognard podcast about everything you see in /hwg/ threads.

>>54681909
the closest thing I can think of is the many podcasts on wwpd (never listened to them) or panzerfunk

>>54681909
Meeples and Miniatures isn't purely historical but they cover them frequently.

Not a fan myself but maybe you'll like them.

tell me about history

DOES ANYONE STILL USE 40MM

>>54682950
Long time ago some shit happened

>>54683161
wat shit

>>54683219
Men did fights

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Anyone play Saga anymore? I just ordered a Welsh Army (bogtrotting savages for the win) but Meeplemart seemed to be out of nearly everything. Is Saga dying off?

>>54683246
hot diggety

>>54683398
No? They released a new expansion fairly recently.

Saga is one of the more popular historical games I thought.

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>>54683444

I thought so as well, but this is my first real foray into model painting/ war gaming. It was pretty difficult to track down a full starter army, and the store's website was showing a ton of 'out of stock' messages. I had a bit of post-purchase nervousness that I was buying into a dead hobby.

Maybe stores in Canada are just shitty at keeping stock on hand.

>>54683444
>They released a new expansion fairly recently
what was it? I was interested in starting saga too

>>54683628
Aetius & Arthur, Late Romans and Romano-British stuff.

>>54683575
Send meeplemart a message by email or cuckbook, they'll let you know when they have a restock in.

>>54678247
not bad. just a feel good British war film.
Don't expect too much historical accuracy - modern destroyer acting as a WW2 destroyer, spitfires with endless ammunition (20 or more 1 second bursts), about 1/200th of the amount of people who should have been on the beaches.

The air combat scenes were pretty lackluster - you'll get better damage modeling from the old IL-2 sturmovik game. They were all done with RC and its very much "hit the enemy - enemy turns on smoke" kind of damage. I understand its hard to do nice damage with RC models, but they could have easily fixed up some nice damage and bits coming off in post.

Decent watch, nothing amazing though.

>>54638292
>Scales exist above 15mm?

ftfy

>>54685760
you werent in the last thread were you?

try not being a fucking moron before you post next time

>>54685928
Well that post went from 0 to 100 pretty quickly.

>>54685928

I see the micromen are as autistically perma-butthurt as ever

>>54685965
It was a direct quote from some retard who thought 25mm was the only historical scale fuckwit

>>54686012
Says the 40kiddy

>>54685965
>implying it's not the one retard samefagging with himself for some reason
He's already done it twice in this thread already
It sucks

>>54686133
Im not samefagging jfc

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A once-quiet farm somewhere in Eastern Europe, where a plane carrying a briefcase of critical intelligence has crashed

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>>54687419
Snipers and forward observers lead the way, but before long it's erupted into a full scale battlefield, and the Soviets have set the crops ablaze

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>>54687434
On the third turn, a devastating artillery barrage(3 direct hits out of five units hit) shreds two Soviet squads and outright deletes a third, allowing the Finns to claim the briefcase. With their forward infantry pinned and the enemy in control of the intelligence, the Soviets order a retreat.

>>54687466
>>54687434
>>54687419
Nice AAR anon!

Sorry your terrain is aids

>>54687553
>tfw you made some of the terrain
;_;

>>54687419
Its good to see battle reports, we could do with more of those.

>>54687584
We could give advice on how to improve

>>54687602
Id need to finish a project to actually play a game with one

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>>54687466
>Finns get briefcase back to base
>open it
>contains nothing but a half-eated caviar sandwich and a copy of Pravda where the crossword's been done
>tfw

>>54687419
>>54687434
>>54687466
why is the kid wearing a furry shirt

>>54687845
Because he's a furry

>>54687872
Why play with a furry

>>54687928
He doesn't talk about it

>>54670659
That is a great looking army. Are those bacchus figs?

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>>54688001
>That is a great looking army.
It certainly is, and they're all Bacchus
Hellenistic Spartans for Hail Caesar
Must have been a nightmare replacing all those spears with bits of wire
http://irregularwars.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/6mm-hellenistic-spartans-for-hail-caesar.html

>>54683575
>a store in Canada doesn't have stock of a UK manufacturer's minis
>thus the game's dying

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>>54681308
Old Glory, hands down
They have everything

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>>54688184
You underestimate the wily leafs ability to deceive and spread mischief anon.

Don't worry, we won't have to put up with it for much longer.

>>54688871
Thanks, Anon. I was just looking over their stuff and it looks pretty good.

>>54691901

those upper wings just look comically long

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>>54687466
>>54687584
I remember seeing you post that minefield here

;3

Thought you guys might like a look at what professional wargming is like.

British MOD published a handbook detailing just why wargaming is so vital for Defence and Security. Has some interesting case studies, complete with the impact they had.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/defence-wargaming-handbook

>>54699252
I help wargame for the Navy. It's depressingly politicized and skewed by the people running it to prove an agenda or provide support for whatever dumb pet-project they want to see succeed so they can get a nice civilian sector job when they retire and kickbacks from contractors. Some of the scariest moments of confirmation bias you can imagine. Be interesting to get a look into the culture for it over there. Thanks for the link.

LAV-25

Does anyone have any good 15mm paper models for ancients?

Mostly looking for Romans and British Celts

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>>54703085
I don't know if they would meet your standards, but Juniorgeneral might be worth a look

Hello /hwg/, is there anywhere I could get more diagrams like the "Density of fire" part of this?

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>>54706404
Forgot my image, I am not a bright person.

>>54706404
>>54706412

Try /nwg/ @ >>54573212

>>54707217
I figured there would be better, the resources in the OP there are straight from here.

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>>54707311
It may be one of the scurvy swabs in /nwg/ has that sort of thing in their files
Alternately you could have a look here, some of the individual ship entries might feature graphs like the one you posted
http://ww2db.com/ship.php
You sometimes find old period books on this subject on places like Scribd, Mirageswar and Modelfan.ru as well

Is this the proper thread for computer war-games like say, CMANO? I was looking for the war-game thread in /vg/ but I couldn't seem to find it, but I may be retarded.

>>54707756
/wgg/ has been dead for some time I'm afraid.

I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the occasional computer wargame being discussed here, provided it passes minimum autistic levels.

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>>54707756
Go right ahead anon
I was always a Janes Fleet Command guy myself
Have you ever looked at Harpoon, the modern tabletop naval sim?

>>54707775
Well lads, I was actually going to ask if anyone had an suggestions for a Cold-War era wargame that is significantly more accessible than something like CMANO, but more indepth than say grand-strategy title Darkest Hour.

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>>54707798
You want something accessible, but still more in-depth than a Paradox game?
Not sure about that, so I'll mention the two Cold War vidya I can think of: Steel Panthers MBT if you like the old hex-and-counter buzz, or the Wargame series (such as Wargame:Air Land Battle)
There's also the Combat Mission games covering Cold War stuff (such as Sovs in Afghanistan)

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>>54707963
>Steel panthers mbt

Seconding that good shit

>>54707963
Thanks so much, I'll take a look at all three. Right now I'm trying out Operational Art of War III

>>54707986
Be warned, Combat Mission is really damn expensive.

>>54699252
Really interesting. Thanks a lot.

Is there a good Canadian online retailer for models? primarily looking at Baccus' Romans and celts, but also happy if there is a better range from another company, other sized models also cool

also does anyone know somewhere I could buy individual Roman and Celtic models that are the same size as warhammer models. I don't really want to buy full units

Anyone have that nice voucher for Warlord?

>>54717501
Nice pirates anon

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The Blood Red Skies rules are up on Warlord's website. Put them here in case anyone wants to check them out.

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>>54723087
I especially like this. Using real MPH as a tiebreaker for the arbitrary speed stat is a neat idea.

>>54707311
>>54707217
>>54706412
/nwg/ has a weird relationship with /hwg/, being both one of the parent threads and a child thread. Much of the stuff in /hwg/'s OP is mostly stuff came from the mediafire in the old naval general, so it seems right to borrow it. Also, I know there's some of us in /nwg/ that still browse /hwg/ too.

I was gonna suggest that copy of Jane's 1940, but while it has loads of great stuff, density of fire isn't one of them.

>>54718494
Hope it isn't too late, anon.

JULYFREE10-4d4c2748

>>54724471
The code expires 6th August - use it before then!

So you better hurry, because thats today.

JULYFREE10-eb3aastc

Here is another one btw

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>>54726327
is the photo fucking up the colors or this tank is black?

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>>54726716
I'm pretty sure its just a dark green grey, although I see what you mean.

>>54726716
It's the Pursuit Special tank.

>>54723087
>>54723240
Hmm, seems straightforward but pretty solid.

Will end up trying this out, once it's actually released.

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>>54724471
>>54724516
Can you use these two codes separately to the same adress?

>>54728507
you probably can, but wouldn't it be cheaper to combine the orders to save shipping cost?

>>54678247

>Somewhat off topic but what did you guys think of Dunkirk?

Great movie. Its success shows that people are starved for stories of heroic men without any Cultural Marxist poison mixed in.

The historical mistakes were small and overwhelmingly justified(Messerschmidts had yellow noses to make them easier for the audience to identify as the baddies, etc).

>Dunkirk needs a Bolt Action campaign book if there's nothing on it already.

Might be a good excuse for plastic early war Britbongs and French. It always did bug me that there are no plastic opponents for the excellent Blitzkrieg Germans kit.

>>54683398
>>54683575

Even the more popular historical games usually aren't like 40K and X-Wing where you can just waltz into the FLGS on Saturday and find a dozen dudes playing. Start a league(and FB group) and be sure to get to shows and conventions.

>>54728521
I've used one of the codes already on a 10 Pound order so I only paid a fiver for the shipping. I'm considering doing it again since I save 5 Pound every time I do it and they have so much nice stuff.

>>54729414
>It always did bug me that there are no plastic opponents for the excellent Blitzkrieg Germans kit.
My buddy has a British battle of France force in metallics only and they look great. But yeah, some plastics would be nice. We're lucky to finally get some British plastic paras now though

>>54729823
they ship for free once you reach 40gbp (30 with the coupon). So instead of paying 5+5 for shipping you could have picked another set of minis for 10.

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My first ever painted miniature. I went on vacation to an "experience estate". It was a medieval village in the middle of huge ass hotel complex and at sunday activities I met with the person who is responsible for suplying basicaly every castle's gift shop in the country with lead soldiers and I had a chance to paint up a soldier with my SO.

It was actually a lot easier than I thought it would be even with my shaky as fuck hands.

>>54729870
It's 50 and it's a bit much. I'd rather spend 5 gbp to get 10gbps worth than spend 50 to get 60gbps worth.

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>>54729952
And the backside.

>>54729952
Do multiple thin layers when painting and buy Agrax Earthshade from GW and dunk the model in it. You'll thank me.

>>54730087
>buy Agrax Earthshade
No. Learn how to do highlights and shades properly.

>>54730087
It went like the man dipping the brush then giving it to me, and me painting up. It was mainly targeted children hue.

Thinner paints, paint a light grey as an undercoat for white to avoid the streaky look, and don't paint bases avocado green unless you're going for a retro/80's GW kinda look.

>>54730100

This. Slopping wash everywhere is amateurish. Targeted washes/lining is okay though.

>>54730100
To be fair the old fashioned way of easy shading was essentially the same technique as Earthshade but you just made your own wash.

The problem is when people just dump a wash everywhere then call it a day.

Also Army Painter washes are better

>>54729952
>It was actually a lot easier than I thought it would be even with my shaky as fuck hands.
Really depends what you mean by easy. Yeah getting all the paint in roughly the right spots is easy, but making it look good is hard.

>>54730263
Well it was easy in the sense of getting the quality to a level near the average lead soldier you can buy at a gift shop.

>>54730393
Yep you can now start your own sweatshop selling pre-painted soldiers to gift shops.

But believe you me that us anonymous wargamers on an obscure part of the internet have our standards way higher than your meagre endeavor..

I bet most people here play unpainted GW.

>>54730656
>Yep you can now start your own sweatshop selling pre-painted soldiers to gift shops.

Well it's a step in a good direction to get better at painting, ain't it?

>>54730750

Every minute spent painting is a step in the right direction :)

>>54730656
>I bet most people here play unpainted GW.
In this thread?

>>54657994
He has a British accent, so everything he says sounds academically authoritative, no matter how ridiculous it may be.

>>54729414
>Cultural Marxist poison mixed in.
Back to /pol/ please

>>54730885
Maybe. Are you hiding something?

>>54730885
Give us some credit, we play unpainted Warlord

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>>54730885
>>54734346
>Playing with unpainted models

>>54686090
Jesus I bet you're fun to be around.

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>>54735568
Just ignore the shitposters, they feed on attention.

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>>54739187
I see your point

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Rebased my Finns
1/2

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>>54740522
2/2
God I need a better camera.

>>54740522
On the one hand, it looks quite well done, on the other these finns don't look nearly miserable or cold enough to be believable.

>>54741327
It's spring. Simo's just still wrapped up because he's a weirdo

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Just finished my first batch of rebels for my African imagi-nation, can't take a good picture using my set up.

The next few batches will definitely be painted with more care though, since I now have better brushes.

>>54732690
Nah, he's right.

>>54658383
Lindy is not outright wrong most of the time, but there were some problems with his talks about the Bren MG34/42 debate.

>He claims the Bren is good because it was used for a long time while omitting or not realizing that the MG42 is equally if not more used in the future as the MG3

>He fails to differentiate between the MG42 and MG34 while being unfamiliar with their design, such as omitting that the MG34 had a semi auto setting while the 42 did not.

>He uses anecdotal stories to describe the Bren which is a horrible way to support it if he ignores stories from MG34/42 crew men. That would be the same as some xxnazishitxx talking only about some Uber SS dude's experience with the MG42 compared to what he saw of the Bren.

I really don't remember it as well anymore so I might be wrong on a few things but I see what Lindy is trying to say. The Brens and light MGs worked for Britain, but he should probably pre-face that with the knowledge that different countries operate their MGs based on different doctrine and tactics. My gun is better than your gun arguments are fun, but ultimately pointless in the grand scheme of things, especially when both of the guns proved sufficient for their jobs and not downright problematic like some other weapons of WWII.

>>54743418
He went into the doctrinal differences in the second video he made after people went into muh-german-superiority-damage-control-mode. The comments for that video and threads discussing the subject elsewhere are still full of people insisting that the MG42 is a perfect weapon that can be hip-fired for mobile squad support as well as be used effectively for sniping.

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>>54726716
>>54726792

Did some googling and it is actually black. Was apparently specially painted for the amalgamation ceremony between 3rd and 4th RTR. Seems a nickname for 3rd RTR was 'Men in Black'. The Eyes on the turret is a 4th RTR tradition.

What is the most popular roman time period ruleset?

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Does this mean I get 96 men for 7$? I am in EU, so how much shipment would cost me on average?

>>54743702
>>54726792
>>54726327
What's up with the corrugation on the barrel?

>>54743995
Yes, you get 96 men with which to do fights for £7.20 plus shipping. Add them to your cart and it'll let you calculate the shipping - it's not bad, IIRC.

>>54744004
I think that's the thermal sleeve.

>>54726792
>>54726716
>>54743702
The Royal Tank Regiment's regimental colour, AKA their berets, and to a lesser extent their uniforms (note the black overalls on the crewman in >>54743702 ) is black; presumably the black chally 2 is a celebration of that.

Any good 10mm proxies for warmaster? Alternatively, would warmaster be playable with 6mm?

Me and a friend usually play 28mm skirmish games but we now want to try and move to something different so we're looking around. I'm kinda tempted to only buy historical stuff to proxy empire/brets as we can always use those for historical games as well.

>>54744383
Pendraken and Magister Militum.

Some ASL stuff:

m3d1a f1r3

/?wu4acidh0bpwg

>>54744988
We should get that put in the archive, good stuff.

>>54683398
I play it a lot. Last spring we played their campaign system and in the fall there are 2 tournaments planned. But I guess it is different depending on where you are located.

>>54740539
I get it's historically accurate and all but it looks like shit.

>>54745681
Just like real life.

>>54743995
I'm in the Eu myself and shipping order of around 50 pounds is adds 7-8 pounds shipping.

Is there a separate thread for /hwg/ requests?

>>54743418
>he should probably pre-face that with the knowledge that different countries operate their MGs based on different doctrine and tactics.
Mate, that's exactly what he was talking about. The Bren was better on the offense because it was more accurate, and the MG42 was much better on the defense as it could suppress a large area.

>>54744383
>Alternatively, would warmaster be playable with 6mm?
yes, why not? It's done by base. Your only issue would be playing other people outside the 2 of you.

>>54740539
Mostly what you need is better lighting and a stable surface on which to rest the camera. Looks like it's trying to focus in dull lighting conditions, hence the grainy image.

>>54746791
Nope.

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Bump with more pirates.

Put some highlights on those friggin' pirates for fucks sake.

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Hello guys ! Can you tell me what game give the most the feelings of the napoleonic wars ?

I've looked up Commands & Colors, is it any good ?

>>54750598
>dipping
WEW

>>54750598
did you coat them with cooking oil?

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>>54750598
>>54750988
>>54751518
>>54751853

>>54657994
He's autistic in a sometimes entertaining sort of way

>>54657994
Type of nerd who always acts as if hes right and people trust solely because of his accent. Probably cheats at wargames

>>54752836
He's the kind of wargamer who moves his own troops about an inch further than they are allowed but it's a club night so you just handwave it who cares right? But on your turn he's like "I think you nudged that unit to the right whilst you were measuring please move them that millimetre back"

>>54753009
ugh hate those cunts

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>>54753009
>>54752836
Please stop, I'm getting angry flashbacks

>>54753054
Statistically this thread has several of them.

For all I know you're one of them.

For all I know I'm one of them!

>>54753068
>>54753009
>>54753133
>that guy in a tournament who snatches his dice away before you get a chance to look at them because "theres a time limit"
>miraculously rolls sixes 80% of the time

>>54753161
I've played in several historicals tourneys and never had a problem with enemy dice, everyone blows hot and cold on dice sometimes, occasionally it's even me. I run in to LOTS of measurement cheats, usually when a line of units wheels a bit and the far flank ends up trying to double move to stay in line.

Nigga I know geometry.

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>>54746863
I remember that part now. Both those statements are still the sweeping generalizations that Lindy likes to make, but they are true enough.

If you actually like lindybeige you're exactly whats wrong with historical wargaming.

I'm looking for post-WWII games, what's good? Scale is bit irrelevant but I like fairly flexible games.

How is Hind & Seek? It bills itself as a asymmetrical wargame but is it limited entirely to the Soviet Afghan War?

>>54757116
Bolt Action is actually pretty good at this. There was talk of supplements for Korea. And I think Flames of War has stuff?

>>54757274
There seems to be a repetition of Bolt Action to be cartoony, I don't really mind it if there is good support for other eras.

I should probably add details

Most of my collection is 15mm and 20mm moderns (90s to now) from a variety of manufacturers. Though I'm not afraid to expand that collection to other eras and scales. I also tend to Solo alot because I live out in the middle of nowhere.

>>54757371
Flames of War is built for 15mm I think, so that might be good for you?

>>54757371
are your models based individually?

>>54757522
Yes I do, though I've done a game where I cut up note cards for improvised group basing though. It wasn't pretty but worked for me for function.

anyone have Polemos SPQR pdf?

>>54757609
so long as you're happy without points values, Force on Force is what you're after. No End in Sight is also a great game in a similar scale.

>>54758009
Alright I'll look into those thank you.

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>>54757116
Hind & Seek is made specifically for Soviet-Afghan war. I do plan to do a Vietnam version at some stage.

Solid Post WWII systems: Fist Full of TOWs, Cold War Commander, Force on Force like the other anon mentioned.

>>54742805
I like them, might you need some sort of wash on their uniforms though?

>>54758359
I'll give it a shot, I may know next to nothing about the era but It wouldn't kill me to look.

>>54758744
I was trying to go for a "cleaner" look, which I can never seem to do right when using a wash, although I agree that the uniform seems a bit flat and boring.

I'll paint up a few test models, wash and shade I think.

Thanks for the second opinion.

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>>54758820
This documentary should fill you in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQBFXM1PIhM

The whole Cold War series is really excellent

>>54759209
>CNN
Yeah, the pinnacle of journalistic integrity right there.

Someone make the new thread quick, we're almost off the board

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>>54759273
Its a BBC production. Fairly even handed.
Can't be too picky with Soviet-Afghan documentaries, there aren't all that many...

>>54759404
There's no rush anon
I'll be home in an hour or two, got some stuff written up

>>54760155
Its over anon, the threads falling off the board.

>>54760169
It was good while it lasted lad.

>>54759209
Thank you very much for the information.