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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1648: Really Really Big Man Edition

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>Last Thread
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>>54635997
Have you never once in your life asked your friends for a favor? You're literally asking them to take a few minutes out of their (often very long) lives to make a decision that will most benefit the group in the long-term. And this isn't just helping you set up the group hangout or anything, these are decisions which could have drastic implications on your nature and the way you interact with the world, which opportunities you have, and many other things for... potentially eternity. And they're decisions that you and they will likely never be able to make again.

And in return, they get: Infinite-use resurrective immortality, everything they acquired and more (assuming this jumper spreads powers and items around- which considering they have power-sharing, they should), the chance to explore worlds they've only dreamt of, and probably more. They lose nothing other than the (comparatively-less) opportunity cost, and there's hardly any reason to complain (unless the jumper's an abusive ass). I know you're going to say "hurr but mutual power-sharing is inherently abusive". But it's not. At least not inherently. Because you don't have to force them into it, they'd probably do it if asked. It's not actually abusive, you know, because they only stand to gain from this whole deal. And they can leave at any time. And then, you spend ten years with them. Are you saying that the only interactions you can have with them is when you purchase shit with CP and everything else- that whole ten years (which is a lot of fucking time btw) is completely meaningless? That the only thing that matters in a relationship, is the exchange of gifts? But not just gifts, the specific gifts the other person chooses from a catalog? Seems kind of shallow of you, if I'm being honest.
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Sounds like a dumb question, but given the chance, would you or would you not go on an actual jumpchain?

Would you swap your gender as well? I know I would.
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>>54636371
Same reasoning Record & co. over on Spacebattles use.

And ya'll's claim you're so much better.
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How many jumps have weapons/spells that can cause unhealable injuries?
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Hey Heavens, have you decided on how you're going to handle Longinus discounts? No rush, I'm just doing some Companion build planning, and not sure how much CP companions will have to spend after Longinus (if they'll even have any remainder).
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>>54636376
>Would you swap your gender as well? I know I would.

with enough shapeshifting perks gender is no longer a concern
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>>54636376
Sure, why not?
Hundreds upon thousands of people will live out their lives doing things that won't make them happy just to get by. If there's the chance to break away, it doesn't matter what the risk is, there's no reason not to take it.
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>>54636376
Yes and No.

I don't care where, let's go on an adventure across space and time!
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>>54636376
In a heartbeat and probably.
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>>54636371
>I'm usually not a fan of companion muling tactics but the Worm jump is set up to heavily encourage it.

And like that you've just guaranteed that the next update is going to make this point fucked.

All because you wanted to whine.
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>>54636440
Discounts are now a general thing. Humans might be getting a smaller Gear stipend. Current version is in the upload folder, I'll give it one more look in the morning.

I also forgot to give companions a thing along those lines so that'll be in the next update, too. My bad.
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>>54636462
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>>54636473
Worm went out of his way to make mass importing impossible already, if he nerfs it any further there's going to be an actual problem.
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>>54636376
Fuck yeah I wanna go on a journey of over time and space.

...Maybe. I'm pretty quick to get altforms or powers that make the distinction pointless though.
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>>54636492
There's always a fucking problem. You so much as sneeze and some anon starts whining about how his jumping rights are infringed on by contamination of his air.
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>>54636501
Sometimes there really is a problem. Nerfing people's years-old builds is a real kick in the nuts.
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>>54636404
Wow, a a single-line "witty retort". Oh, wait, sorry. Double. Not sure what I expected, to be honest. Pretty sure you're wrong, even, given I hardly remember them talking about companions ever. But then you're just trying to shitpost, aren't you? Also, really? So is any reasoning at all "SB reasoning"? I've thought about this extensively, and decided that it'd pretty much be the only way to do things were I to go on a Chain, but in practice I limit it because it gets boring both to think about and build after awhile. And it's even harder to keep track of. Like, goddamn, it's not worth doing if you're just writefagging or making builds.

And kek. I don't claim "I'm better" than other people for playing differently in a CYOA game, and I never have. And I can't quite grok why someone would.

>>54636473
Sure, Timmy. That wasn't me that said that, though. Sorry for trying to discuss things beyond a one-line shitpost. I won't do it again. Not really.
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>>54636501
Worm puts up with more than most people would. Even if people shit on him for the update at worst he'll just make the updated jump separate from the one on the drive and let people choose which one to use. Not like that hasn't happened before already
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>>54636445
Yea, this. I got a single shapeshifting perk and decided the concept of gender no longer applied to someone who can change biological sex at will.
>>54636447
>>54636496
Personally, I'd give up everything to just go to a different world and get even a modicum of jumper powers. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.I've been hit with the realization that I'm ultimately meaningless and my life won't amount to much more than a menial existence of being a wageslave. I'd do just about anything to get out of this sad and lonely life if it meant going somewhere else where I can live out something vaguely resembling power fantasies. Or at least come back with powers far beyond mortal men and try and fix this sack of shit mudball.
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>>54636473
So Worm's going to screw with people because he doesn't like an inter-jump combo? Have a little faith, anon.
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>>54636456
>Don't care where
What would be the worst possible first Jump to be thrown into anyway?
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>>54636376
Hell yes!
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>>54635984
The first handful of chapters have gratutious gun porn, gratuitous violence, mind rape, anime bullshit and the protagonist committing infanticide.

No.
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>>54636548
>Have a little faith, anon.

That requires faith in the thread, and frankly at this point the only faith I have is that 1 out of 10 isn't a complete asshole.

Call me bitter, because it's prolly true.
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>>54636549
Maybe that Salt joke Jumpchain?
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how do i create origins for a setting in which each archetype is really an irreplaceable character role rather than a general occupational role, and the jump will have you interact with the main cast? for example a show where a group of 3-6 main characters each fulfills a role that could be a potential origin without any other characters or room that provide any leeway for creating separate origins
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>>54636549
Drawback or no drawback?
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>>54636376
Only if my chain didn't have the same tone as my writefaggotry. Because dear god actually being put through that would be incredibly awful karma.

I want a time train, dammit!
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>>54636530
It really hasn't. There's like one exception.
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>>54635728
>only Harry Potter fic I'd want to go too is HPMOR to give the MC a bunch of crap for being such a smug asshole.
I'd recommend Harry Potter and the Natural 20.

>>54635789
>I might retain a fanfic drawback just to go there in Young Justice .
The only fanfic drawback/toggle I can think of off the top of my head is Naruto, and I thing it specifies Naruto fanfic in the text.

Carrying that one over would make things... interesting.
Go to Harry Potter, IT'S A NARUTO FANFIC.
Mass Effect, NARUTO FANFIC.
Worm, NARUTO FANFIC.
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>>54636376
Yes. Even if I died to something stupid in the first jump, like Team Rocket, it would still be worth it.

Yes, as long as it's temporary or controllable.
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>>54636549
Don't do it Faputa
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>>54636592
There's more than a few jumps where that's already happened. Or are you going to spew out your invalid jump meme again?
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>>54636620
Can you name examples?
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>>54636597
>tfw you would be forced to keep jumping the same Naruto fanfic with more and more out of place perks due to keeping the drawback

Fuck, I want to do this just for the hilarity of it now.
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>>54636623
Sure. At least three of the Final Fantasies fall under that category.
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>>54636549
>>54636572
>Drawback
Lovecraft, easy.
>inb4 my Shoggoth waifu will protect me

>No Drawback
Dead Space? The brother moons are set to devour humanity in a couple years if the plot stays on track.
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>>54636608
Well, genderswaps are usually opt-in and at the start of nearly any jump. That would meet both definitions. Bodymod lets you flip-flop twice in a given jump, and that's without specific perks like shapeshifting.
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>>54636635
I don't remember any final fantasy jumps having alternative versions? Certainly not with differently powered/functioning perks. Only thing I remember is Dirge removing the fluff (but not changing power or function) in some of his jumps to make short versions, but I don't recall any of those getting on the drive.
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>>54635674
>>54635256
Oh hey, I know there's another anon who has been tinkering with it before now, if you're not him.
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>>54636376
Yes, without doubt. I would probably do the genderswap along the line, but not my first choice.
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>>54636376
Given a chance to actually jump? Yes.
Swap my gender? No.

I like being male. Don't have to worry about female health problems, worry about pregnancy & that good stuff.
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>>54636655
He's probably referring to the ones on Dirge's drive. They're easy to tell because most of the updated versions are a lot longer. They just won't be accepted even though they've been posted on thread, because there's too much shitposting that you'll never get any consensus. People will just bring up how the existing jumps are all OC and need to be removed and reject updates based on that.
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>>54636376
Yes, if only so she doesn't offer it to someone like bancho and they end up coming back with PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER. If that wasn't an issue... still yes, because well. Yeah, there's not really much I stand to lose. Except maybe my sanity, but I doubt it'd be any better if it was revealed to that pretty much all fiction is real and I chose not to explore it.

Eh, if I had nothing else to spend my CP on.
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>>54636376

I feel like this is kind of a no brainer, but yeah. Freedom at last, freedom at last!

(also for >>54635767

>>54635797 is super correct. I only have tasted a bit of the fruit, but man I don't wanna delve into the stupid personally. I want the jump to exist knowing some poor bastard had to deal with that)
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>>54636664
I know its been name dropped at least once before. I'll try to draw up something present able with ideas, see if anybody else has been working on one.
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>>54636686
I'd probably do it in Pokemon, if I was planning on starting there. The build I have for Pokemon only uses like 500 points, and I'm not too concerned with safety if I don't take dumb drawbacks. as the document says that the police will deal with the villain team.

If I do it at the start, I can bail out on all subsequent jumps if I don't like it. I'm pretty sure that just about everyone wonders what it'd be like to be the opposite sex, if only for a while.
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>>54636760
Imagine an earth ruled by Bancho. Dear fucking lord.
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>>54636793
well if I didn't want to commit suicide before, living in THAT fucking society would certainly seal the deal.
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>>54636793
Look at the people who rule the Earth now and tell me that it's really any worse.
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>>54636793
Yep, it'd be horrifying. And I know the memes disagree, but bancho isn't nearly the worst person she could offer it to. Not even close.
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>>54636811
Yes, indeed. Even the worst places on Earth are better than being sentenced to eternal torture because you said something slightly politically incorrect.
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>>54636376
Yes in a heartbeat, so long as time is frozen at home and I get sent back if I die.

>Spoiler
See >>54636445 shapeshifting is fun.
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>>54636376
Absolutely, in a heartbeat. A lot of my chain is jumper being put through hell, I still wouldn't care. Definitely, even if others were granted the same opportunity.

no, I've gotten through enough gender issues via my own treatment irl, so nothing like that until I'm sufficiently "beyond human"
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>>54636811
...Are you kidding? If you think modern Earth is the worst shit can possibly get, then you're seriously deluded.
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>>54636376
Are you kidding? Of course I would! Adventure, fun, friends, power, what's not to love? Though if given the option, I'd probably avoid the darker jumps like SMT or 40K until I was ready to handle them, and even then...

>spoiler
I mean, maybe? Just to see what it's like? But to tell you the truth I'm pretty happy being a guy, so I would be fine never knowing what it was like to be a female.
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>>54636760
>>54636793
Honestly, getting mind dropped into multiple backgrounds worth of memories, along with all the intellect and mental perks would realistically fix his issues most likely.
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>>54636376
Yes and yes.

No matter how much I would get beaten down, it's still 10x better that a boring, monotonous life on earth.

And I want to be a qt3.14 grill

>>54636760
We'll never have to worry about that, since bancho would probably be dead by his third jump.
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>>54636852
>>54636836
I'm confident that a planet ruled by Bancho won't be any different from what it's like today. For one thing it won't last longer than 5 minutes. Do you actually expect him to survive the chain?
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>>54636760
>>54636793
The only one here that can be trusted to jump responsibly is whoever came up with that 3 million magical girls plan a while back.
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>>54636901
I don't know, I'd put my vote forward for this anon, personally.
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>>54636880
>>54636889
>>54636891
Okay, yeah, but bancho was only an example. The mere chance that she could offer it to someone would Stalin or Ted Bundy- or the fucking Joker because our world isn't the only one out there- is enough to seal the deal.

>>54636901
Yeah, but I'd trust myself more than the omnipotent being who's willing to offer someone like me ultimate power because they were bored to not offer it to someone like ^.
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>>54636376
Absolutely, and eventually. Not so attached to my bait and tackle that I'd never ever consider seeing how the other half lives.
>>54633967
Crysis
I fucking love the Nanosuits. I fucking love the aliens. So cool.
>>54635600
There's a Harry Potter/Abridged Hellsing crossover that's absolutely fantastic. Harry is a butler. And Malfoy gets recruited.
There's also a Harry Potter fanfic where the shard of Voldemort's soul takes over Harry's body when he's a baby. And this version of Voldemort basically just sort of stumbled into being a dark lord by accident. The Prewetts (Molly Weasley's bloodline) have a secret high power love potion and innate berserker magic.
There's also a Mass Effect fanfic where humans never get their hands on Eezo but do get a Prothean warning about 'The Destroyers', so stay in their home system and build up all of their tech and become not!Eclipse Phase transhumans. They're even working on a Dyson Sphere/Matrioshka Brain.
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>>54636972
>omnipotent being who's willing to offer someone like me ultimate power because they were bored
That's why people have changed that to something that makes sense to them. Pretty much everyone has their own narratives now.
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>>54636972
>>54636901
I believe that it was once agreed upon that if there were multiple Jumpers, we would declare earth (this earth specifically) and it possible its universe a sort of hallowed ground and thus leave it alone.
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>>54636857
Honestly, I'd take companions if I thought I'd be able to write around them. But I'd probably bring a few of my close friends from real life if it wouldn't cost me a ton of points from the warehouse to pod them. It'd be fun to go on adventure with at least a few of my friends, as long as they wouldn't backstab me at some point for some perceived moral atrocity I'd commit. Though, I'm thinking that my sister and my friends are aware that's probably coming eventually.

I'm a guy, but I'm genuinely interested, if only for the contrast. If I'd like it, it'd be great, if not I'd be thankful since I wouldn't be dysphoric and suicidal. Course, if I go with my friends, I'd probably take a shapeshifting perk instead of a genderswap perk. I'm curious, but that isn't to say there isn't some value in using sex and sensuality as a weapon, particularly in street-level settings.
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>>54637039
The only agreement was that people would run as quickly as possible away from what would inevitably be a fucking ground zero because some people have no self control.
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>>54637035
Fair enough.

>>54637039
Sure, but I think it's optimistic at best that the Benefactor would only draw from this world for Jumpers when there are so many interesting places out there. And that if she did, that she would even consider drawing from... this pool of people no offense, guys, but c'mon. And even so, I'm saying that even if there's only one Jumper, the potential that someone like those examples could be given ultimate power with basically no way to be contested... isn't really any better.
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Question for you guys. Do you think that someone straight out of first jump could beat the Skulls in the MGS jump on a regular basis assuming you get the appropriate perks/items that make you more like the boss?
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>>54636376
I totally would. Zero hesitation on my part, the ride would never end!

>Spoiler

Yes, why wouldn't I? I'll do it on the first jump where it's free to do so.
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>>54637114
(Same Poster) If they took Savant in Pokemon
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>>54636580
>I want a time train, dammit!
Buy the Waveyrider in Arrowverse and remodel
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>>54637114
Given that "straight out of first jump" could leave them with all sorts of superpowers, yes.
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>Nanoha has a bunch of drawbacks that let you become a canon character if you want.

Huh. Are there any other drawbacks/options like this where instead of just taking their place you actually become them? I know Being Taylor is Suffering and basically the entire Servant supplement is like this. Any others?
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>>54637143
Basically the things I would have are survival training, Mastery of marines hand to hand (prob to be replaced by CQC), Near Captain America Physical Fitness and Top Notch gun accuracy in a MGS loop. Odds?
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>>54636563
can anyone help me out with this? kind of stumped here
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>>54637252
Fairly decent. That's about what Big Boss has, and he can take them out just fine. Hell, not even Big Boss, really, just a body double brainwashed to think he was the greatest soldier to ever live.
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>>54637300
It's because the true power of Big Boss is in the memes.
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>>54637208
Tsukihime has one for becoming the protag. Banner Saga lets you replace people if you have a capstone corresponding to certain characters.
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>>54636376
Of course I would.

I'd probably experiment a lot once I got shapeshifting.

>>54636563
Make an origin based on each character then. Use things they do, abilities they have and their storylines for perk/item fodder for the origin. Does give you more focus but it's also more limiting so up and down sides.

Unless I misunderstood the question. What jump anyway?
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>>54636371
If you import your companions a lot, perk sharing is bound to happen at some point. There are no real downsides for anyone involved, and you have been sharing live and death situations with these people, who most consider family, for hundreds if not thousands of years.

Yet it's better not to speak much of it, seeing how jumpmakers like Worm might decide to start removing their mass imports.

>>54636816
Only thing worse that I can think is a murderhobo jumper who is into farming souls. Mostly because they wouldn't mind-rape you for the eternal torment part, so you will get to suffer it all on your own.


>>54637208
You can be Korosensei's replacement in Ass Classroom. There is also using the universal drawback thing.

>>54637252
Big Boss wasn't that strong and he could take them fairly easily.
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>>54637379
right, that makes sense, but for the drop in alternative origins, would you take over their role and the canon character wouldn't exist anymore or would you coexist while more or less fulfilling the same role?
it's a regular show jumpchain, i finished it around the same time i got into this business, so i thought it might be a good start
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>>54637421
Unless there's you really can't justify two of that origin's role at once, best to just have it be coexistence and let people work it out.

As for drop in...dunno, depends on what you're doing for drop in.
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>>54637469
ok that makes sense, guess i have a better idea of where to go from now. i was also wondering about settings, i have a few ideas for a couple of different jumps, but the location is a problem since more or less it takes place in the same main hub area. what do you do in situations like these?
you have a trip, so i assume you make jumpchains? can you give me some starting advice/tips if its not too much to ask?
sorry for all the questions, i mostly lurked before, i don't really understand the meta still and i'm just trying to get a grasp on how to make something good
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>>54637506
Mmm, well, there's not always a need for 7 locations. If you can only manage a few or even just one, it can still work.

I've made a few, yeah. Sure, what are you unsure on? There's a lot to cover so I guess it'd be better to know where you're unclear.
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>>54637402
>perk sharing is bound to happen at some point.
Not really. Power-sharing is pretty rare, all things considered. It'll probably happen if you take specific perks, but it can easily be avoided. As I said, even for me it's mainly a theoretical thing because it takes a lot of the fun out of building for jumps to just say "and then I got everything I wanted".

>Yet it's better not to speak much of it, seeing how jumpmakers like Worm might decide to start removing their mass imports.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I have enough faith in our jumpmakers that they'll let inter-jump combos minimally affect their jumpmaking decisions. I'd be extremely disappointed if something like that happened, but it is what it is. Started to nerf options in one jump because things offered in another, and have it be treated as acceptable... Yeah, that'd probably mark the start of the End of Jumpchain, imho. If effectively censoring discussion of certain perks and chain concepts wouldn't itself.

The only ones I can understand doing something like that are the makers who've offered the relevant perks, as they provide the bulk of said capability, and were arguably used beyond their intended purpose. Obviously it'd be great if they provided an actual reason, so as to not set a silly precedence.
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>>54637630
things not to do, general stuff you think people who make jumps should know, maybe your process for creating one, when to know a setting you might like probably will not work, anything you're willing to share, really
and are the 7 locations not necessary? i remember seeing the pmd jump by quicksilver only had 3 + the free pick and it was numbered pretty cleverly, but what about if there's really only one location? do you just say "hey you're here and you don't get to pick anything else fuck off"?
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>>54637678
Well, you probably want to be a bit nicer. You still want to describe the location, especially if you're only going with one. They're encouraged things to include, location rolls, but not ultimately necessary.

Things not to do...there's a bunch and not everyone agrees on what not to do. There's not too much to say there if you're actually making a jump that's not been claimed/made by anyone else (Which you aren't).

Stuff I think you should know? Hmm. Try watching the series as you think stuff up or looking into online resources like wikis and the like if you get stuck. Sometimes memory isn't enough. Feel free to ask people for help if you get stuck, in thread or IRC. Try to stick to the series and show off the cool stuff in that setting/the stuff you like about the setting through the perks.

My process? Er, could explain but it'd probably need to be in another post and it's a bit more geared for making multiple at once. So I guess if you're really curious I'll do it in another post.

When it might not work? it's very rare that a setting might not work. A lot of things like Origins or locations or even the jump format can be played around with to fit stuff that ordinarily wouldn't work. I'd say to shy away from stuff where you need to have origins with massive power disparities until you do a few, since those can be a little tricky to handle.
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>>54637771
do a few jumps*
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>>54637674
>Not really. Power-sharing is pretty rare, all things considered. It'll probably happen if you take specific perks, but it can easily be avoided. As I said, even for me it's mainly a theoretical thing because it takes a lot of the fun out of building for jumps to just say "and then I got everything I wanted".

Power-sharing without any loss is rare, yes. But exchanging stuff or temporally passing down some powers is not that rare. Also, there are many skills (mostly ones related to science) and powers (biological ones) that shouldn't be hard to pass down.
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>>54637771
>describe the location
alright i guess that can suffice. my main gripe with having only one location is that it would subvert the rules outlined in the quicksilver jump making guide. that entire section being gone seemed weird to me, but just explaining the location seems like a good solution

>Try watching the series as you think stuff up or looking into online resources like wikis and the like if you get stuck
yeah, along with having just finishing it, i still have all the episodes and the movie on my computer, so i've been going episode by episode kind of racking through to add any powers and gear and things like that. should i post wips or do people not really care unless its in a "finished" condition?

thanks for all the answers and replies, it's been really helpful. if you wanted to post your process, i'd definitely read it, but you don't have to if you don't want to
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>>54637822
Genius: the Transgression, Girl Genius, and Van Hellsing have some good options.
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>>54637869
Thanks anon.
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>>54637873
No problem, anon.
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Saw it suggested last thread and thought 'Fuck it, I played Crash Bandicoot'. Claiming it, I guess.

>>54637826
We're going to have to associate with them for ten years, aren't we?
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>>54637893
That's, uh, very /jc/ appropriate.
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>>54637902
This news pleases me. Have a cute Crona as thanks.
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>>54637922
Yep. but not all jumpers
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>>54637931
More like a "soul upgrade".
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InspiroBot is a gift to all mankind.
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>>54637856
WIPs? Up to you really. Some people post every perk they do, some only post the thing when it's all done, some go in between.
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>>54637902
Well, you can always assume the Podcast just kinda lasts 10 years without your involvement.
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>>54637972
Indeed.
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>>54637980
...doesn't this just become slice of life but you get a bunch of different perks then? I think you should require some sort of condition if you're making this for reals, since we already have mundane world jumps.
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>>54637989
I'm so glad that I managed to find it. It brings me great joy.
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>>54637980
*sigh* I suppose I'll go on a long cruise, I really can't stand the one who poured hot oil onto his penis.
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>>54638025
Same. I've managed to get quite a few that are /jc/-appropriate, too.
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>>54638066
I'm slightly salty because there was a great quote about only being happy when you give up on pursuing what you really want, but then my computer froze up and I lost it.
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>>54638112
Ah, yeah. That's too bad, really hate when that happens.
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I'm probably just really stupid, but I don't understand what "Acolyte of a Rogue Goddess" from MtG - Kamigawa does.
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>>54638148
Yeah, it's a shame. Oh well, at least I get to enjoy InspiroBot acting increasingly suspicious and glitching out. That's fun.
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>>54638173
Yep, it's cool. Though it's amazing how many nonsense sayings make sense in the context of this thread.
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>>54638207
Right? It's weird how so many of them actually fit with the context of a chain.
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>>54638224
Yep. Think I'm done for now, but yeah. A surprising amount of these get a chuckle out of me.
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>>54638240
It was fun, anon. Though some of these are starting to sound like something an alien would say...nah, that's crazy.
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>>54637990
Well, I mean jumping is kinda subjective. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the podcast lasting ten years on it's own but that's my opinion... Mainly based on the fact that half of the hosts may expire on year five considering their lifestyle choices.

However, if someone wants to take that gamble and has that much faith in it, I won't lose sleep if they decide that they pass the jump with flying colors. That's their prerogative.
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>>54636376
Yes and yes.
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>>54636549
Nechronica comes to mind, but I'm sure someone can find somewhere worse.
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I can't decide whether I should become a Ninetales or a Riolu. Being a Ninetales would give me immunity to fire and being a fluffly fox is pretty cool, while being a Riolu would give me insane fighting moves and Aura for free. This is a pretty hard decision desu.
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What generally early accepted rules have you stopped following in your chains?

I personally bring any number of companions that I want into the jump. Between mega-ship crews, single-slot multicompanions and bringing entire civilizations or dimensions with you, the old eight limit makes little sense right now.
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>>54638756
Drawback limits are for plebs.
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>>54636376
Yes and yes.

Hopefully i would be able to pick my jumps.
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>>54638756
Diminishing returns.
I just find the idea of it boring and constraining.
I know a lot of people don't follow this rule, but I don't think Diminishing Returns has ever officially been revoked.
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Is too bad the Worm jump doesn't have a fanfic drawback like Naruto has.
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>>54638756
Paying to switch gender and rolling for location.
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>>54638881
Wormfu said that he'll include it in the next update.
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>>54638911
Really?

Now I have to figure out what fanfic to use.
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>>54638930
Any Worm CYOA fic.

Just to mess with them. Show them who is the biggest sue in the multiverse.
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>>54638754
Ninetails can also curse people and heal with fire.
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>>54639012
>heal with fire.
When did that happen?
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>>54636376
Yup but I would miss people a lot. Ideally I'd co-jump with my bf.
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>>54638754
What jump?
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>>54637826
Amazing Atheist is still broken. All you need is a billion or so followers (like from Infernals' Inner World demons) and you can become immune to anyone's powers.

Either remove the thing about it proving near immunity to their powers and just let it give resistance instead or keep the immunity but only allow it to apply to gods who are omnipotent.
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>>54638754
I'm just gonna put this out there: If you're a Riolu in the first Pokemon Mystery game, you're basically a legendary hero.

See, when Lucario was first introduced, Pokemon REALLY pushed it to the forefront in advertising. It got movies, special recruitment requirements, and NPCs that patterned their look over it, in addition to its basically unique powers. Ash even discovered that he had aura powers, too, and then they proceeded to do nothing with that revelation ever.
And Pokemon Mystery was no different. Being released right around the time Lucario was introduced, it has actual backstory where Lucario was a legendary single pokemon Rescue Team, who went around helping Pokemon and generally being awesome just because, and its deeds as a hero are what inspired all other Pokemon to form Rescue Teams and go out to help where they are needed. You could say that Lucario's contribution then is the entire premise of the Pokemon Mystery games.

... but this was SO early in Lucario's development, that Lucario is not actually in the game code, and in fact, nobody at the time even knew that Riolu was a thing that existed.
Lucario is merely mentioned (somewhat frequently) in dialog as the basis for rescue teams. Nobody in that first game ever actually meets one.
... so just imagine how fucking psyched everyone would be if it turned out you were part of the same evolutionary line of one?!
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Cyclone Spinning (100cp, Free for Washed Up Bandicoot): It must be instinct, for you possess the trademark ability by which Crash will gain great notoriety amongst the ranks of evil. Regardless of your form, you will be able to spin yourself at high speeds, applying the resultant centrifugal force to your attacks. Even as a anthropomorphised Bandicoot, you will be able to break apart wooden containers and deflect enemy projectiles. In time you may increase your speed and the manageable duration of this technique, developing what could only be referred to as a Death Tornado Spin.

Is this about right?
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>>54638930
THE TECHNO QUEEN! of course.
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>>54639037
Its one of the special traits, I think its called flash fire but I could be wrong.
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>>54639108
*krakathoom*
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So could somebody please give me the basics on what there is to do in paper Mario because I just got a toss there.
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>>54639092
Yep that sounds good!
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>>54639092
That is pretty spot on I have to say. Looking forward to seeing Crash Bandicoot.
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Acchi Kocchi Jump when ?
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Looks like a new update of Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest is going to be out soon. Might have to update the jump depending on what's in it.
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>>54639170
>Looks like a new update of Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest is going to be out soon.


After almost a year? I dont believe it! Thats good to hear though, I love the story and the jump is good, I hope nothing gets nerfed though because I thoroughly abuse the hell out of that awesome tech and the impeller fields.
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>>54639170
Really? Are there summaries anywhere, or am I going to have to read all 653 pages to catch up?
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>>54639170
Yeah question how would orbital plasma or railgun bombardment work on The Antagonists and since they are biotech Does that mean virus bombs from 40K would also work on them If the viruses were tailored to them?
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>>54639246
Name Bancho. Name.
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>>54639243
Just go to the thread and in the bottom of the first post is a bix that says index, click that for links to the author posts.
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>>54639296
Thank ye.
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>>54639283
Yeah but I don't know if They are filtering me and space superiority is one of my big things
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>>54639246
Virus bombs wouldn't work because they're nanoquantumcarbon machines not biotech. They can mimic some organic process and designs.
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>>54639879
what about the plasma beams and railguns? also , can the breaches just be sealed with out of context stuff like magic or would they simply be reopened from the other side?
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Can someone give me an explanation of what Revelation can do? I read the description but I didn't understand it.
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>>54639967
Revelation?
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>>54640009
Sorry I meant the skill from Fate Revelation.
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>>54636376
Not like I was ever going to amount to anything here. Send me off!
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>>54639893
>what about the plasma beams and railguns?
Orbital bombardment with plasma beams and railguns would be effective.

>>54639893
>can the breaches just be sealed with out of context stuff like magic or would they simply be reopened from the other side?
Don't know. Fluff it however you want.
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Hey, Highschool DxD question:

Are the Holy Blades even worth messing with? Reading the document makes me want to buy all 7 pieces of Excalibur to reforge the original blade, and with discounts and the free 400 sword it only costs 1200. However, the lack of a growth factor makes me afraid that I'll fall behind if I do this, and Excalibur is competing with the theoretical Longinus I could buy instead for only 500 CP.
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>>54636376
>Sounds like a dumb question, but given the chance, would you or would you not go on an actual jumpchain?
Yes, it would be fun and offer a path to waifus and immortality.

Probably not.
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>>54640135
thanks. Just wanted to make sure my usual plan would work, rods from God and deity level dimensional anchor spells followed up by the weld+key+portal Astroswitch combo it is.
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>>54636376
Yes I would go on an actual Jumpchain, obligatory UNLIMITED POWAH!

No, I would not switch genders if at all possible.
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>>54636376
I don't know why you wouldn't. Even if you didn't want to go on a chain, you could just blow your brains out after starting your first Jump and get to take whatever you bought back with you.

>spoiler
Why not? If I'm going to be a dragon, demon, vampire, shoggoth, or whatever other weird shit you can become I might as well give being a girl a spin too.
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>>54636376
Sure, I'd go on a chain.

As for the gender question, I'm a little curious as to how that works. If I take a background in Pokemon and swap genders, then no confusion in how to walk or anything, because I remember doing it all in-universe - right? No adapting to the new center of gravity.

But then, what were my favorite foods in my background? What was my sexuality? What was my fashion sense?

But if I swap genders as a Drop-In, how much time will I waste/spend having to re-learn everything I do? Does it affect my sexuality at all, or am I going to have to tell everyone I'm lesbian and hope they don't ask any more questions?

And then there's that age roll. If I'm going through puberty again, how much is that going to screw with my decision-making?
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>>54640346
>But if I swap genders as a Drop-In, how much time will I waste/spend having to re-learn everything I do?
That's probably not much longer than having to get used to a much smaller body if you rolled low on the age roll at least.
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>>54640181
Eh. They're unique. There are better holy weapons in other settings.
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>>54636376
I do, but I would probably ask a million and one questions first to make sure I knew all the terms and conditions. I guess even a Chain of suffering is better than no Chain at all, but it would be nice to know what I was getting in for first.

I feel like gender swapping would just happen, if not in Ranma 1/2 then through various shapeshifting powers. I'm pretty sure gender would become one of those things that isn't as important in the grand scheme of things than it seems. But then, I can't really say that for certain until the opportunity comes up. I'd still default to a guy, but I would probably experiment after a few centuries.

>>54636549
I'd probably toss my vote in for the Mad Max Gauntlet. Probably not the worst, but that's not a fun place. One of the post-apocalyptic, relatively normal settings for sure.

>>54636938
If I had to nominate a single other person to Jump, it would be Cancer Punching Kamen Rider Anon. That man is a hero.

>>54637902
Aw yeah. I was hoping someone would pick it up. Time to spin my way to infinite apples.

>>54638756
I do dislike the eight Companion limit, but funny enough I follow it always. Mechanically it makes little sense in Jumpchain as a whole. But! When it comes to writing it gets hard to give everyone enough screen time to keep them more than a face in the crowd when you get up past ten or so Companions, even when you're writing 10K words or so for each Jump.

I also fudge my location rolls from time to time to fit my narrative better.
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>>54637979
Hey Val, for the World Jumper perk in Sekai Oni, do we have to build our altform's World Devil forms in the World Devil Form customization section or can we just choose what we want when we travel?

Also, if we get Sinesthesia and Totally Alice, can Totally Alice block the worsened effects of Alice Syndrome that Sinesthesia causes?
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So I've been watching Ex-Aid to get a feel for the Kamen Rider stuff that is current, and then a thought came to mind. What if the Jumper used Jumper the Inferno (Drawback from Generic Video Game Developer) as the base for his Gashat?

I think the resulting Kamen Rider for myself would look like Pic Related. His powers would be Hyper Armor abuse and Dodge rolling. So what about you guys /JC? What does your Jumper the Inferno Gashat make?
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>>54640427
Also a good point.
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if I wanted to make a distributed supercomputer, what jump would give me the FTL communication tech that would be needed to make it as fast as possible?

like, if I wanted to have servers in thirty different countries, than what jump would give the best tech for each of them talking as if they were next to each other? Or if they were on thirty different planets?
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>>54636376
I don't think anyone who'd spend any time in this thread would dislike the idea of going jumping.
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>>54640724
SupCom, Mass Effect, and Homeworld (Space and Dessert) have Quantum Entanglement tech.
Instant transmission, no delay, and doesn't give a damn about the distance.
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What's the power-level of this jump?
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>>54640964
As long as you're willing to study the relevant subjects you should be fine
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>>54640904
Doesn't the Mass Effect one have a big limit on bandwidth? If he want to do a distributed supercomputer, that may not be ideal.
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>>54641053
Macroeconomics?
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>>54636376
Yup, if it does turn out to be terrible there's always the option of going back, in a body free of my current one's failings.

Probably just to try it after a few jumps, then not care enough either way to swap it back for awhile.
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>>54641065
>have a big limit on bandwidth
That's for standard communication which relied on a network of probes and satellites and sometimes the relays themselves.
QE devices theoretically don't have any bandwidth problems. It is literally instant communication. Shepard used it to have hologram communication with the Illusive man with zero lag.
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>>54641053
Those seem to be quite heavy subjects.
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>>54640964
Why is there no companion option for this jump? Who performed such a grand injustice?!
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>>54640964
>>54641053
Could he take over the setting?
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>>54641259
But it was updated a while ago with a companion option.
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So, Hollow Knight V0.2. Any thoughts?
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>>54641281
No? I'm staring at the one on the drive and there's no companion options.
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>>54641219
Nope, I checked the wiki at http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Codex/Technology#Communications and slightly lower there is a section about Quantum Entanglement Communicators that says "Unfortunately, QECs cannot replace the galactic civil communications infrastructure. First, they have extremely limited bandwidth. A single entangled particle can only transmit a single qubit (quantum bit) of data at once."
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>>54641293
Hollow knight definitely seems like the best origin right now, if not by much. An extra life perk and a hyperdeath perk are pretty damn strong.

Speaking of the perk of hyperdeath, how do you leave the void, and gain a body back?
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>>54641324
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/54043591/#54051454

I think was updated to the drive, but here it is anyway.
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Stupid name fell off.

>>54641403
Well, there it is. It's definitely not on the one on the Drive though. I'll toss it into the uploads.

Thanks Anon.
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>>54641293
Echoanon, just in case you didn't see it before.

Check this out for a lot of the lore stuff I'd like in the Jump: https://steamcommunity.com/app/367520/discussions/3/2741975115064644160/
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>>54641293
Yay!
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>>54641389
Cloning, possess someones body, etc; I'm also debating a perk for Shopkeep that might help, though I'll have to review the lore for that again before I do so.

>>54641464
No, I saw it the last time. Don't worry.
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>>54641363
For the basis of bandwidth, it'd be best to ignore anything the wiki says about "transmitting one quantum bit at a time." Quantum entanglement is literally instantaneous, regardless of distance. What one particle does, the twin reflects at the exact same time. The only true limitation is the peer to peer issue; a QE-particle will only communicate with its twin. This can be rectified by having several QE-particles though; long as money isn't a problem.
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Can I take canon companions with me in Fate/Jumpchain ? I saved Sakura and I want to take her with me.
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>>54641517
Do you not understand what bandwidth is?
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>>54641553
there is no companion purchase option so you're going to need a pod
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>>54641623
" Digital Technology. the transmission capacity of an electronic communications device or system; the SPEED OF DATA TRANSFER:
a high-bandwidth Internet connection."
Tell me, what's faster than instantaneous communication.
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>>54641623
>>54641653
Do you know how big a qubit is?
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>>54641638
Dammit!
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>>54641553
>>54641638
>>54641680
In Fate/Zero there's a Canon Companion option at the bottom of page 31.

If you're doing it in Fate/Stay Night you can buy Master Alliance to take her then.

There's TONS of options in the Fate/ Jumps for OC Companions, Servants, and even other Masters.
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>>54641155
Precisely
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>>54641702
Thanks. Here have a hope Corgi.
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>>54641680
You could always go the Harvest Moon blue feather+ minecraft cheat mode route but there really isn't that many optionsfor this kind of thing
>>54641702
Yeah, but they specified Fate/Jumpchain which is its own jump so they would be picking up an entirely different Sakura if they did that
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>>54641716
Hope Corgi is the best. Such high praise. Glad to help.

>>54641724
I'm gonna let my "friend" Excalibur speak for me on this one.
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>>54641742
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDekttQ1R4X0lfcmc/view?usp=sharing

Versus

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDY085N3p0NDdVM3M/view?usp=sharing

Am I seriously the Fool here for coming up with reasonable courses of action to help a guy with a dilemma he's having with his jump rather than suggesting an entirely different jump?
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>>54638756
I'm too lazy to roll every jump so I just glance at location and age rolls and just try to pick the first thing that I see or that comes to mind.
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>>54641778
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>>54641778
Instead of suggesting one of the two other more specific Jumps housed in the same folder as the generic one that already has the option that Anon was looking, you suggested visiting two entirely unrelated Jumps to pick up what is arguably a questionable, but valid, combination of perk and items.

Yes, yes you are.
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>>54641653
>>54641669
>>54641517
In the end, I'm pretty sure it comes down to two things.
One, the writers are not scientists with expert knowledge and a theoretical subject.
Two, it's probable more stating how an Entanglement device uses multiple particles and it is got to be really expensive for them to make even a single quantum-entangled particle.

Sure, SupCom might have better QE devices (considering how they like to slap Quantum on to everything like it was the latest buzz word), but Mass Effect QE is still better than any FTL based device.
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What do I do if my chain is shit?
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>>54641908
Learn Shit-mancy, alter the meta-narrative, and become a god.
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>>54641908
Enjoy it less than you could
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>>54641908
Turn that brown upside down
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List of end-jumps?
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>>54641908
why is it shit?
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>>54641979
I dunno. I had an aborted two players chain that was pretty fun. I have an okay chain with an OC character Jumper.

But now I'm trying a SI Chain and it's not amounting to anything, my writing is boring and I don't know what to do.
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>>54641998
Take a break on it and try something different. Maybe write a chain that follows the jumping of a character from some fiction or something.
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>>54641998
The first thing you have to keep in mind with a self-insert story is that the title is a bit misleading - while you're using your own personality as a base, not the entirety of the Jumper's actions. Ten years is a long time and odds are you're being put in a younger brain/body, or a 'better' one, so personality change is liable to be a bit more fluid in a new situation. So your character is likely to be a very different person from you by jump one alone. So they'll become an OC of your own making after a while.

That aside, decide what sort of story do you want to write? Standard wish fulfillment? Play with or even take apart commonly discussed Jumpchain tropes? Just mess around and make funny little stories for each jump? I can give you some ideas, depending on which one.
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>>54641653
You're confusing /distance covered/ with /amount of communication/ per time, then. Bandwith is how fast you talk (how much information you can disclose in a given time frame), not fudging how far your words reach and how quickly.

Transmitting one quantum bit at a time caps bandwith based on how much information you can encode into each shimmy you make the particle do. Yes it reaches the destination instantly, but then you need to take into account how long the interpretive dance routine has to be to get the whole message across.
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>>54642053
>>54642054
Thank you both.

I think maybe my mistake was using special rules.
I decided I couldn't become smarter and I only had 500CP per jump. I was trying to keep myself challenged and not too OP but it ended up being unfun.
I'll try again under normal rules, full-on power fantasy, and see how it goes.
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Is there a jump that let me get a civilization to follow me to other jumps ?
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>>54642092
One other piece of advice I would offer is to focus on your goals when jumping. What does your jumper want? What will get in the way of that? What will he need to do reach his goals? Both in terms of the entire chain and each individual jump.
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>>54641978
Every jump is an end jump if you suck
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>>54641908
>>54641998
Usually when I hit a slump I work on something else for a little while, but not everyone likes to do that. So perhaps take a Drawback or two that you wouldn't normally. Maybe instead of having a canon story play out, derail the plot line entire due to your Jumper's actions. How would the antagonists react? What new plans would they come up with? Would they develop/find new powers to oppose you with?

Or maybe concentrate on inter-personal drama for a little while. Write some scene work of your Jumper and Companions interacting. It doesn't have to be anything important. Arguments are usually a fun place to start. They're always going to happen, even among best friends, and especially among a bunch of personalities thrown together. Show off bits of personality, their points of view, explore the way a Companion looks at the world instead of just seeing it through the Jumper's eyes.

Of course, if all else fails, kick your Jumper in the nuts and see what shakes loose. Even if you don't end up using the scene where your Jumper gets shanked on the toiler, sometimes you get a flash of inspiration from writing it out.
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>>54636376
Yes, and I'd opt to losing this flesh body immediately to get something better. I don't want to have a dick, I just don't want boobs and getting put in excruciating pain every month.
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>>54642129
Stellaris gives you your empire at the end, the Tyranid jump has a scenario that lets you take your Hive if you beat it, and Dragon Ball AF lets you bring a fleet of your race with you. I'm sure there's others, these are just the ones off the top of my head.
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>>54642092
Don't worry about that - I tend to write my Jumper as impulsive and a bit thick-skulled even after I give them intelligence perks. People can still act weird or even stupid with the best of intentions at times (or at least that's what I find funny). In terms of writing for power-fantasy, here's what I go with:

1. Make sure there's beats (or 'exchanges') between both characters or sides in a conflict. Jumper may win in the end, but how do they do it? Some particularly stubborn opponents won't take it lying down, even against overwhelming odds. How does it shape the battle?

2. Treat perks as plot devices, not rules. If they become too annoying to keep track of to keep a plot idea you like feasible, just hand-wave it with benefactor fuckery at work. Or maybe they don't work all the time, like I did for Destroyer of Worlds.

3. Companion interactions are the most important/fun thing you can write with a straight up fantasy chain.

4. Every story needs conflict, but this conflict need not necessarily be slugging it out with Darkdeath Evilman. Be creative with it - also, don't be like me and default to grimdark if you really just wanna enjoy things as they are.

5. Most important part - Have fun with it!
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>>54642054
Mind if I ask a DxD question real quick? If we choose Dragon race will we ever grow to the level of Ddraig and Albion, being able to have our own special ability like them?
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>>54642160
Thanks
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>>54642181
I think I answered this a long time ago and the general verdict is 'possibly, but it would take a very, very, very, VERY long time'. You're liable to end up like the Dragon Kings first before actually reaching that point.

I remember the general agreement was that it'd be astoundingly unlikely you'd end up to grow into something like Ophis without a lot of outside help, but for things like the Dragon Kings and Heavenly Dragons it's possible - it will just take a lot of growth and time. I hope I'm remembering this right, I just woke up.
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>>54642212
Thank you for answering, sorry about bugging you so early about it.
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>>54642149
I meant jumps you can get a spark from, dingus.
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>>54640724
Hive queen quest jumo, be a queen and make thinkers in the millions,

Its like having millions of research minded worm anons, so cute!!!
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>>54641908
Despair, of course!
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>>54636376
Yup.
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>>54642212
How scary in setting is a jumper who goes dragon with Magician and a Longinus?
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>>54642227
Then why didn't you say that the first time, dongus?
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>>54636376
Yes and no, but I would switch over to a nonhuman, nongendered body pretty quickly. Robots are the best.
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>>54642393
which longinus?
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>>54642427
Nothing, what's longinus with you?
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>>54642421
>Robots are the best.
Indeed they are, we shall have the pathetic lifeforms kneel before their masters.
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>>54642427
Zenith Tempest.
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>>54642427
ALL OF THEM
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>>54636376

Without hesitation.

At least once, just for the experience.
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>>54642427
The true longinus, or boosted gear.
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>>54636376
I would in a heartbeat. All those opportunities to see and do amazing things, meet amazing people, change events in fictional worlds to avert tragedies and punch karma houdinis in the dick. A means to gain immortality and personal power aplenty, to even share those things with others and journey with people of my own design, but capable of growth beyond that while remaining loyal sincere friends. Yes, yes and a hundred times Yes. I would pay for that ticket in a heartbeat so long as I could afford it.

If jumping had gender shifting as a price, then yes, I would pay the price while looking for a means to get my correct gender back. If the two matters are unrelated, then no. I would prefer greatly to remain a man.
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>>54642535
Heh. You want the /d/ that bad?
I kid.
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>>54636836
On the bright side, if bancho of all people got the chance, more than likely there are other high powered jumpers to all gang up on him.
>>54642190
Pretty sure Civilization has something for that
Animal Crossing has a town
There was a city builder jump in the works... i don't remember who it was from or if it was completed though.
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>>54636836
I don't eternal punishment to people who don't do eternal punishment. How is this not getting through?
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I don't think I need really need to update the jump after reading the new quest update.

The drones were cool but you can just get them in jump. I don't want to make the Valkyrie customization section be super bloated. I've seen some video game jumps where the item section is so bloated because it includes every single item you can find in game including useless ones.

I might just do a quick minor update buffing the simulator item, clarifying Impeller strength, clarifying Antagonists, and maybe making you immune to Valkyrie Detachment Syndrome.
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>>54642755
Link? Also what is the size in your nullspace when you first start?
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>>54642755
>clarifying Antagonists

this is a very good idea.
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>>54642462
Ah, Ultimate Being. What would we do without you?

Be the president of the United States, probably
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>>54642726
Hey look who's back and responding to a ten hour old post. Good on you for not being deterred by things like common sense and dignity.
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>>54642800
Right jump, wrong feature.
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>>54642786
>>54642755
also, how much do the to upgrades to nullspace and complexity improve the baseline? Because you never made Any kind of benchmarks for any of that. I'm not even requesting a siz eor an improvement rate I just want to know what the baseline and how much it improves is
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>>54640724
I can't believe no one mentioned ansibles from Ender's Game. Instant communication over ANY distance. Better yet, it's alot more flexible and easier to get than Q-E.
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>>54639092
That's pretty good.

Also requesting the four Elementals as a single-slot companion. Or as items if you don't think their wonderful personalities are worth companionhood, I guess.

Is this gonna include stuff from Crash of the Titans and Mind Over Mutant?
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>>54636597
>>54636624

Personally I think that drawback work in other settings as you in a Naruto crossover fanfic with that setting.

Go to Young Justice? You have to find a Naruto crossover fic.

Worm? Find a Naruto cross fic.

You're still going to that setting, it's just that shitty fanfic versions of Naruto are inexplicably there.
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>>54642918
reminds me of this

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10531949/1/Naruto-Uzumaki-and-Issei-Hyoudou-save-the-World
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>>54642918
That could be fun(assuming you can find decent crossover fics)
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>>54642977

I barely understood what was going on aside from Naruto and Issei fighting shitty fanfic versions of themselves.
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>>54642984

>Naruto
>decent crossover fics
>decent fics at all

You will take a shitty Naruto harem fic and like it.
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>>54643052
>decent fics at all
Its sad really, a lot of shows have decent fics, rosario vampire had some really nice ones.
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>>54643052
I'd really rather have tolerable, if not decent or even good. I'll not hold my breath for excellent or even great. If it isn't at least readable though, I just won't bother.
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>>54643052
Some exist, it's just harder to find than a needle in a haystack. It's more like a gem in shit mountain.
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>>54643052
Must we post eroninja again?
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>>54639069
>Guys listen. All you need is just a billion people and this is totally OP.

You uhh... You listening to yourself? I don't know, I think by the time you're easily slinging around the faith of billions then you're passed worrying about what's OP.
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>>54642726
So what kind of punishment did that nasty old Jontron get, again?
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>>54643151

Does smut count? I'm honestly curious.
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>Using that one Sidereal Charm to make all companions into my children to give them ALL THE PERKS
Yes/No?
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>>54643167
Didn't bancho literally castrate him?
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>>54643167
nothing major. I reeducated him and then made Him live his life with his new reputation
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>>54643178
Put your trip and your pants back on Digger.
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>>54643178
No to ALL THE PERKS, but anything hereditary I'd say is okay.
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>>54643167
Castration then his soul was boiled for a few thousand years while the screams were beamed directly into the minds of every living being on the planet as a warning not to say mean things on the internet.

Or say them in your home.

Or to think mean things.

Or exist.
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>>54642816
>>54642797
Initial storage capacity is I don't know. Different origins come with different levels. You can kind of estimate it based on cadet Valkyries storing their frame which includes the armor, weapons, thrusters, and a fusion reactor. Complexity is usually more of a worry.

The upgrade probably increases it by 1.5X or so.

I'm tired and going to take a nap.
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>>54643178
>fucking your daughterus
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>>54643177
It doesnt say no lemons!
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>>54643188
Didn't you erase him from existence?
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>>54643177
A lot of the better things I've read were smut.
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>>54643178

Name of said charm?
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>>54643187
no I don't do that very often, it's not like he was a rapist or something
>>54643214
what? where are you getting this?
>>54643215
fair enough. Thanks for the answer
>>54643232
no I only do that retroactively, and I Only do that in cases where you make the world such a worse place that destroying the present world would be preferable to what you have done
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>>54643222
No,stop! You'll draw out "ultimate and final cuck" anon.
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>>54643278
>cuck

This word's existence, and that one image of Goku's dumb goddamn face.

Only things to bring such frustration.
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If you had to pick one god in all the multiverse to worship, who would it be?
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>>54643333
You rang?
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>>54643333
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>>54643358
Obviously, it's the God of Bards, Pelvis Ressley
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>>54643197
Xianxia Eugenics is pretty great.

>>54643222
But that's love, anon!

>>54643272
One of the Astrologian Greater Charms, can't remember.
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>>54643358
prolly Nanshe
goddess of social justice, prophecy, fertility and fishing
sounds comfy
or I could be MCU Thor's groupie
that'd be fun too
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>>54636376
Prolly avoid combat a lot more than in my build but the benefits are more than worth it.

mostly stay as is, but at least once...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG6fayQBm9w
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>>54643373
>>54643374
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I'm not sure how many of you are interested, but I finished writing up the rest of Jump 3: Oblivion. Six more pages on top of the ten I showed off last time. I could have done a lot more, but I feel like I covered the important ground and I'm eager to keep the Chain going.

Just shy of 9k words isn't bad.

https://pastebin.com/RLUiUjKv

I promise I'll work on Divinity: Original Sin soon. I'm just having a lot of fun writing for my Chain at the moment.
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>>54643358
Cayden Cailean.

If you didn't ascend to godhood while shitfaced then you're just not worth worshipping.
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>>54643358
YHWYNT:^)
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>>54643499
Thank you, Yorokonde. I like your writefags
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>>54643576

Good choice anon
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>>54643358
WoW is going to be set early in my new chain. Gotta wait to finalize my build and get everything started, though. I'm 4000CP in the hole and that sucks.
And I'm a night elf paladin.
Elune/the Light doesn't seem to be a bad choice of religion, I suppose.
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>>54643358
EXA_PICO
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>>54643579
Thank you very much. I'm glad you're enjoying my rambling.
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>>54643373
>>54643374
>Hey guys, I destroyed another universe today!
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>>54643358
Why would I worship a god when I'm a being who's ridiculously beyond pretty much all of them's bitch?
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>>54643499
Lemons when?
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>>54643358
Amaterasu.
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>>54643605
Thanks
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>>54643701
Lemons?
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>>54643710
It's a really old term for lewd fanfiction.
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Jumpers has a companion you raised ever tried to waifu you once they grew up?
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>>54643651
Good choice.
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>>54643701
>>54643718
You guys /really/ don't want to read those monstrosities, I assure you.
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>>54643427
>One of the Astrologian Greater Charms, can't remember.

Do you remember anything else about it? Trying to find it on the Exalted wiki
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>>54643756
I've met a few romantically interested lolis if that counts. Nobody I've ever raised, though.
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>>54643358
Slannesh

Or myself
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>>54643756
Not really raised per say, since she was already a teenager when we met, but yes. She wanted a husbando, I was content with a daughteru. It was...awkward
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>>54642918
>Personally I think that drawback work in other settings as you in a Naruto crossover fanfic with that setting.
That's wow I assumed it would work. Mass Effect would still be Mass Effect, but also a Naruto fanfic somehow.
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>>54643780
Pussy want milk?
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>>54643358
Madoka became a Goddess for your sins.
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>>54643358
>implying any of them would accept prayers/offerings/sacrifices from the likes of me
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>>54643806
wut?
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>>54643427
>>54643796
This one?
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>>54643879
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>>54643928
Some trashy anime or manga can get real weird. I can imagine anon might have run into some if they've had a long enough chain.
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>>54643945
I'm imagining using this charm on random people and taking them through the chain.
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>>54643928
You don't watch any anime huh?
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Blackshadow111 here?
Why are you making stealth edits to the Asterix Jump?
What is different from the version you posted to the thread here
>>54568805
Why did you remove the Barbarian Tribe + Fortified Camp interaction that costs 900 CP? It seemed fair for the price.

What are all the other changes?
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>>54643854
>Picture very related

>>54643945
I knew I liked Sidereals for a reason.
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>>54643945
>'No, I am your father': The Charm
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>>54644004
have more Woah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CCbaNVU7TE
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>>54643945
So if I start Sidereals as someone who is not only completely immune to Fate but also pulls other people from under its influence, are all the other fate ninjas going to kick my ass?
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>>54644043
Oh God. What has science done? WHAT HAS SCIENCE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE?!
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>>54644055
They're not going to be happy if you're pulling other people out of fate, no.

Neither would the people you're pulling Outside Fate be happy with it, for that matter. Fate is physics in Exalted, being outside it leads to really weird stuff and reality glitches. The Exalted are usually okay, but it's a horror story for mortals and such.
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>>54644113
The dank can't stop
The dank won't stop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K12Y3axCk2k
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>>54643945

Welp, it looks like I'm going on an adoption spree after Sidereals.
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>>54644151
YOU PLAY WITH POWERS BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION, ANON

CEASE AND DESIST BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
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>>54643945

So this also gives people powers they inherit from you if you declare them to be your son/daughter?
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So in the Skyrim jump how exponential is Meeko's growth? Was that ever settled?
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How strong is Boogie Manimal's creatures from one week of creation time verses just a day?
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>>54644151
>>54644043
What 100cp item should I give the Mask of Power origin?
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>>54644216
At least one anon in the archives said it alters genetics in addition to metaphysical stuff. But I also remember thread as a collective visibly deflating when someone claimed this doesn't give hereditary powers to others/yourself. I'm not an Exalted buff, I just have pdfs, but with that conflicting information in mind I guess your new kids would get any directly hereditary powers, but they wouldn't become a Half-Caste of whatever Exaltations you have (or get similar hereditary powers that aren't directly tied to genetics or metaphysics).
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>>54644216
It doesn't say, so probably not.
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>>54643975
Luke...
I am your father.

Now get your ass in the goddamned warehouse.
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Anyone else notice a sudden uptick in the amount of inane and asanine questions lately?
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>>54644433
Nice arse
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>>54644433
I noticed a sudden uptick of cow ass with your post.
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>>54644216
Not really. It doesn't actually alter the recipient, except if they're a mortal declared descended from Essence 6+ spirits.

So, you can have non-godblooded descended from gods, or children that're older than their parents, or a dragon king descended from a goat.
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>>54644423
I'd think it would be more the reverse. Exalted... doesn't really have DNA as one of the building blocks of the setting.

And the charm works on a metaphysical level.
So it probably could do stuff like making someone inherit your dragonblooded exaltation or half caste status. (or both because you are that guy with all the exaltations)
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So I'm writefagging for VtR I'm planning on being hunted down and destroyed. Which method of cheating death creates the most drama?
>get destroyed, rise as an Ash that Devours, consume other vampires to resurrect myself after a century of being dead
>hunted and diablerized, take over diablerists body
>decapitated, survive due to jumper powers, lie in wait and hijack another body/regenerate
>Watch over a mortal woman Who I'm modeling off of a deceased friend and support her, enamor her with vampire powers, then use a discipline to take over her child's body when I die (That's literally what it does)

Also, post potential sources of conflict that don't involve being a super hero of varying sorts? All I've got so far is Vampire political shit.
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>>54644480
>>decapitated, survive due to jumper powers, lie in wait and hijack another body/regenerate

do it! go full DIO!
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>>54644433
Such as?

I don't know exactly what you're thinking of, but I always remember there regularly being inane questions in this thread.
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>>54644433
>misuse_of_Pokeglot.png
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>>54644433
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>>54644433
I never liked Miltank as a Pokemon, but that author is making great cases for both it and Nidoqueen as top tier Pokemon.
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>>54644433
Do NOT lewd the Miltanks.
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>>54644433
I like them, we need the variety and wackiness to dispel some of the stagnation.
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>>54644433
More?
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>>54644518
It's funny because I already did JJBA, I'm a Jojopire dropped into VtR Gets even better when I have Anubis and I'm taking that perk from Wind Waker that lets me have a sword that stops time.
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Alright a minor update in response to the newest quest update. I buffed the Simulator, expanded the notes, and made you and your companions immune to Valkyrie Detachment Syndrome God knows why considering most jumpers probably already developed something like it.
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>>54644433
Source?
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>>54644571
You know not what you ask.
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>>54644561
Too bad, luck means blowing the guy in that comic.
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>>54644452
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What are all of our hive mind options we have, besides pic related? I want one but I'm debating getting one from a jump or just making one on my own.
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>>54636376
I would.
I am a guy and would stay a guy if at all possible in-universe.
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>>54644605
This jump is quickly becoming the answer to everything.

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BQUZ7vezFOjPsupUikzw_1CjYUzkXeDX8Ytk3mFGBJI/edit#
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>>54644578
True, jumper already has something similar. Thanks anyway though.
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>>54644605
Hive queen quest has a couple different flavors of hivemind available.

Libriomancer has something too I think.

You also can get zerg in zerg.
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>>54636376
Hell yes.
I mean, it would depend on how things get fluffed, particulars of the chain, available settings, etc.but in almost all cases, without any hesitation, yes.
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Do we have perks that let you improve cybernetics by training? I could sworn I saw something like that somewhere.
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>>54644605
Stellaris has a hivemind option.
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>>54644628
All generic jumps are power grabs and should be banned.
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>>54636376
Yes, yes and yes.

What answer were you expecting?
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>>54644628
It took a few seconds to load and I thought someone had deleted the document. I was sad for that moment.
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>>54644605
everyone always forgets Warframe,you can even be the good kind of hive mind There.
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>>54644433
Link lease ?
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>>54644890
Not him but Shoutingisfun is the name of the artist
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>>54644628
What kind of bullshit powerwanking is this? Want hentai have they been reading where there's country wide healing magics and ninjas that can clone themselves a thousand times over?
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Whats the jump with the Gaia loves you perk ?
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>>54644955
Porn has borked power levels since it's never the focus and no one cares what the fuck is happening in the background as long as they get off.
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>>54644977
the gods are bastards
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>>54644983
Name any popular one at that level, that isn't a parody of Bastard!! or something similar
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>>54644991
Thanks
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>>54645012
Why on earth would I remember the name of random porn doujins and videos
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>>54645012
MGQ? Has several beings who are solidly planet-busting, and a few above that.
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>>54645043
>MGQ
Huh... I hope QQ makes that one
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>>54644628
Only because you keep shitposting and spamming it to spite the rules.
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build for Paper Mario Jumpchain
https://pastebin.com/iJ2XjeSz
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>>54644718
S&S is one of the best jumps on the drive.
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>>54644955
>powerwanking
Heh.
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>>54645089
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>>54643358
Khorne, because the honorable berserker thing really appeals to me. In the old lore, civvies wouldn't be targeted because a warrior attacking peasants and normies was extremely dishonorable.
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>>54645059
They beat you to it.
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>>54644788
It is never really explained what you become other then an infested that wants others to embrace the way of flesh. Atleast from what I remember reading a while back.
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>>54644955
>Porn having big ass powerlevels
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>>54645089
Don't let us stop you, anon.
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>>54645118
>It is never really explained what you become other then an infested that wants others to embrace the way of flesh. Atleast from what I remember reading a while back.

well if you look at the perks It's a hive mind.
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>>54645110
>Honorable Berseker

Khorne is not honorable. He much closer to Orks than your idealized vikings. He just wants blood flowing and people killing each other (in a fight).

If you have to kill your father, your lord or your lover in a fight because there are no other acceptable targets, he doesn't care.
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>>54644578
As someone who hasn't read up on the series what exactly is Valkyrie Detachment Syndrome?
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>>54645118
There's an option to become a sort of pseudo hive mind where everyone can share thoughts and an extra option to... store emotions, I guess? But that's about it. Wasn't the kind of Hive Mind I was looking for.
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>>54645089
>No Power-Wanking perk where you can masturbate hard enough to destroy a castle in one shot
Shit jump.
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>>54645164
eclipse phase has the Flexbot&Swarmanoid which are a hive mind of a sort.
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>>54645156
Valkyrie Detachment Syndrome.

Externally, VDS shares syndromes similar to Asperger's, detachment syndrome and DPD, but in especially severe cases, subjects exhibit many hallmarks of classic psychosis. Subjects have been recorded as expressing overt disdain and disregard for social norms, especially in regards to relationships and alarmingly, a lack of self awareness or empathy relating to how their actions may be perceived by their surrounding society. When questioned, such subjects will fall upon rationalisations for their behaviours. However, unlike classical psychosis, such rationalisations are almost exclusively built upon statistical and economic notions of rationality. There are no deferrals to motivation or perceptions of moral justification, only quantifiable cost-benefit and efficiency arguments.

…
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>>54645226
>>54645156

… show no signs of disliking humans individually or humanity as a whole, however, subjects suffering from VDS do not appear to feel much love for humanity either. While empathy tests are usually passed, ethics hypotheticals are typically resolved without particular consideration of the hypothetical humans past that of a nebulous 'cost factor', which takes enough corresponding consequences into account that attempting to equalise the cost factor could baffle a normal citizen for days on end…

…

… Onset of VDS appears affected by the age at which the subjects begins synchronisation with the Valkyrie Core. VDS is unknown amongst first generation Valkyries, including every member of The Twenty, but common amongst second generation Aces after one year of service and near endemic for third generation Aces after one year of service. One proposed hypothesis puts forth that as adolescents possess a more malleable mental framework and lesser amounts of ordered information within their memories, the informational complexity of the human brain is reduced. This thus reduces the amount of time required to integrate the pilot into the frame, which has profound effects on the human ego as shown in the Guramann study.

…
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>>54645238
>>54645226
>>54645156

… as a possible defensive mechanism against traumatic stress. Normal human mental processes allow for the easing of mental trauma through the natural recontextualisation of events through successive recalls and influence from surrounding environment during such recalls. For Valkyries however, due to the perfect recall displayed by many higher ranked Valkyries, it is evident that Valkyries do not naturally recover from mental trauma the way that humans generally would. In this case then, the development of Valkyrie Detachment Syndrome may be a coping method…

…

… Thus, in the stress of war, it is likely that many young, high ranking Aces analysed themselves in the face of death, devastation and deprivation of a like that humanity has not faced since Impact. They judge their own reactions, their gut feelings and passions, against the actions necessary for improvement, for success, for victory.

They have found themselves… wanting.
- Excerpts from [Redacted. Top secret; Classification schema Red Five October Ninth], by [Redacted], published 1st January 58PI

-"We are holding a snake to our chest to ward off a wolf."
- [Redacted]
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Where's the latest Kamen Rider Neo-Heisei Part 4 Ex-Aid? I can't find it and the one that we've got in the drive right now isn't up to date.
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>>54645315
It's right here
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>>54645315
Upload folder. Just in case it's missing, here's the one I've got.
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>>54645356
>26 Pages

>>54645360
>32 Pages
Alright thanks Heavens!
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What's a good explanation for a normal human Local in Overlord having Level 100? Reincarnation or an actual god being behind it?
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>>54636376
Yes and yes in a nanosecond I would.
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>>54645437
Son of a god. They exist in setting.
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>>54636376
Yes and sometimes.
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>>54636376
Definitely yeah, though if I had to do it for reals, I'd probably pick safer choices over fun choices

I'd probably stay male but eventually become a trap
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>>54645437
Unless a Magic Caster of some sort or Monk this: >>54645456
>Son of a Level 100 player
FTFY
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>>54636376
Yeah but I would probably be miserable, just in a different way than in my current life.
The loneliness and alienation of changing universes every ten years would be quite something.
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>>54645437
You're just THAT good.
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>>54645456
>>54645506
>>54645545
Oh neat. I'm only really aware of the setting from people talking about it here. What's the deal with these guys? They're children of the players that showed up in the past?
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>>54644578
ThatNameMyGodItsJustSoLongItNeverEnds
I wish you would call this Valkyrie Core JumpChain instead.
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>>54644605
Could always try to figure out how to get from kamigawa or kaladesh to other planes and grab some slivers. I am sure fusing slivers, tyranids, and zerg together will not cause /any/ problems. Especially if you combo that with Cobra-La Biotechnology and Crimson Saint to turn all of your tech and magic into biotech. Pic slightly related
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>>54645608
Incase you wanted to picked which one you might be a descendant of.
http://overlordmaruyama.wikia.com/wiki/Six_Great_Gods
>What's the deal
From what we know they just showed up like Ainz and a few other players like the Boastful Sage (Minotaur who showed up and tried to tech the world about technology but couldn't into it but was seen as wise and thus his name). They ruled for awhile and had some kids. Actual Spoilers: They died due to infighting.
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>>54643358
Autochthon or Prometheus
I'm a sucker for any god that wants to give humanity the leg up it needs to have a chance against gods, regardless of intent.
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>>54645156
>>54645226
>>54645238
>>54645253
So using these frames turns you into a sociopath.
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>>54645685
No being a sociopath implies you dont care about others, you still do but you place more value on things that are important to the survival of mankind as a whole more so than individuals. Either way the maker already made a note that you wont need to worry about it.
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>>54645685
>>54645734

It is all simply for the Greater Good, children.
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>>54645734
That's sociopathic. To be human is to care about individuals, nor being able to care about people makes you a monster.
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How hard would it be to tame a Warcraft dragon?
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>>54645803
Oh you can care, you can make friends and all, but if you dont take the time to interact with others then yes it is a valid worry.
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>>54645608
It's also assumed they became gods within that system in the same way that you accomplish such a thing in DnD. Simply through worship and enough people believing you to be a god. It probably doesn't change anything other then people like Divine Casters being able to cast spells by believing in you.
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>>54645803
No. Sociopathy is a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience. This doesn't make you instantly a bad person, it just means you have a extremely hard time connecting with others and you have no real an inner feeling or voice viewed as acting as a guide to the rightness or wrongness of one's behavior, so you just do you no mater how your innermost self conflicts with the outside world.
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>>54645821
...Warcraft dragons are sapient, so "taming" them isn't really going to work.

Unless you just want to give one the D maybe.
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>>54645825
It says specifically that you don't care about individuals.

>>54645850
Being both pedantic and defending sociopaths, wow.
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>>54645870
>It says specifically that you don't care about individuals.

>… show no signs of disliking humans individually or humanity as a whole, however, subjects suffering from VDS do not appear to feel much love for humanity either. While empathy tests are usually passed, ethics hypotheticals are typically resolved without particular consideration of the hypothetical humans past that of a nebulous 'cost factor', which takes enough corresponding consequences into account that attempting to equalise the cost factor could baffle a normal citizen for days on end…

Ok? Either way it doesnt effect you.
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Anon Im not really good at math or anything related to the imaginative side.
While reading Tales Of Demon and God it say that each rank is basically 1 ton in strength.

I would like to know what does a fight between 5 ton in strength people actually look like?
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>>54645837
>It probably doesn't change anything other then people like Divine Casters being able to cast spells by believing in you.
I thought Overlord divine magic didn't need a god.
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>>54645959
Usually either one slapping the fuck out of the other with kung fu or if spirit cultivator shooting energy beams. Or elemental stuff.
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Asking again in case Worm_Anon sees this... Two questions about the new Worm update, and one question I had just reading old options again.

How durable are the Friendbringers? Like, could I have them go along into Parahuman combat without worrying about them, despite the tastelessness of it?

Is there any possibility of adding an option for Shards/Passenger to become a presence in someone's head in later jump?

And lastly, could I use the 50 option of the Powered Armor System to merge it with a Power Armor I already have?
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>>54645917
See >>54645238
>subjects suffering from VDS do not appear to feel much love for humanity either. While empathy tests are usually passed, ethics hypotheticals are typically resolved without particular consideration of the hypothetical humans past that of a nebulous 'cost factor', which takes enough corresponding consequences into account that attempting to equalise the cost factor could baffle a normal citizen for days on end…

So they can't care about human beings.

It not effecting me wasn't even the point, though I feel that fiat is lazy. The point was simply to note that these devices make the users all horrible sociopaths. It's a good argument to abolish the program as well as execute every Valkyrie.
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>>54645146
>in the old lore
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>>54645984
Except they do not hurt humans either, they do everything to protect humans, they even give up a chunk of themselfs to do so. You actually can avoid it almost entirely by regularly desyncing and interacting with other people.
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>>54643951
I feel like this one really captures the essence of jumping for a long time.
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>>54645685
Not really

>Onset of VDS appears affected by the age at which the subjects begins synchronisation with the Valkyrie Core. VDS is unknown amongst first generation Valkyries, including every member of The Twenty, but common amongst second generation Aces after one year of service and near endemic for third generation Aces after one year of service. One proposed hypothesis puts forth that as adolescents possess a more malleable mental framework and lesser amounts of ordered information within their memories, the informational complexity of the human brain is reduced. This thus reduces the amount of time required to integrate the pilot into the frame, which has profound effects on the human ego as shown in the Guramann study.

This points to it being a consequence of using teenagers in the war. Aces are going to be deployed to where there is heavy fighting. The Twenty who see the heaviest fighting don't have it.

It looks like its caused by teenagers/young adults, whose brains and psyche are not fully developed, heavily using Valkyrie cores, that when synced alter the way you think in addition to giving users perfect memory, in heavy combat. It appears to be an alternate to PTSD.
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>>54645961
The jump gets a lot of things wrong but I'd rather not get anymore into that beyond that statement. Even Shalltear who it could be reasonably assumed if she could worship Ainz to use her divine magic doesn't because to use her divine magic she pulls power from her belief of the vampire god event boss. She doesn't care for it but that's how it seems to work. Even the cleric Ainz interrogated said when he uses his magic "it feels like his god is there" but mind you I'm paraphrasing.
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>>54645984
>So they can't care about human beings.
No, they can care about human beings, they just don't care about humanity. They can care about individual people, but when they think of the species as a whole it's in utilitarian terms. Also, it's not a guarantee that you'll suffer from the syndrome, most Valk pilots don't have it and it's possible to treat those that do. And there's a fiat guarantee that you the jumper personally will not.
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>>54646071
Oh, well that's disappointing. I've been running with the assumption that it did work that way because I didn't like the fact that D&D divine magic in the jumps we have needed a god.
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>>54646069
In addition Aces only make up less than 5% of all active Valkyries if my understanding is correct
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>>54646071
>use her divine magic doesn't because to use her divine magic she pulls power from her belief of the vampire god event boss
That god doesn't even really exist though, right?
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>>54645777
Fuck you Dumbles. You aren't my real headmaster!
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>>54646145
On the plus sides, it doesn't seem like you need the god's approval to use it only that you believe and that perhaps you could register as one within the system and then leave with the power to have other people draw power from you as if you were a god but with the problem mentioned. Though that last thing is largely speculative.
>>54646167
It was within the ranked system so it's reasonable to say it exists as much as the Six Great Gods do now.
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>>54645777
>>54646178
Partially Kissed Hero jump when?
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>>54645777
You mean that thing that Albus Dumbledore never once says during the events of the books, having been burnt out on the topic because his ex-boyfriend used it as a rallying motto during his rise to become Wizard Hitler? Yeah, fanfiction needs to stop having him talk about that. Even if you're doing the evil Dumbledore thing, give him a different catchphrase.
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>>54646069
Well those individuals with it are still sociopaths.

>>54646053
They see humans as statistics. They will very much take actions that hurt humans to save more humans.

>>54646095
It specifically says they don't have any feelings for other people, at al. You're making up bullshit at this point.
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Actually, outside of D&D/Overlord divine magic, what ways do we have of raising the dead – preferably en masse?
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>>54645850
>lack of conscience. This doesn't make you instantly a bad person
Wrong.
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>>54646212
>It was within the ranked system so it's reasonable to say it exists as much as the Six Great Gods do now.
Not really, that god didn't get pulled to the new world with them. It explicitly does not exist.
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>>54646322
As undead, or actually resurrecting them?
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>>54646361
Actual life.

Necromancers go and stay go.
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>>54646320
>It specifically says they don't have any feelings for other people, at al. You're making up bullshit at this point.
No, it says that extreme cases don't. The average sufferer of it is still able to experience empathy on a personal scale, and has the least severe symptoms when dealing with intimate relations and close friendships. Read the whole thing instead of cherry-picking the bits that support your narrative of this being a trap jump. The protagonist of the quest has it, and she's able to form friendships and care about people.
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>>54646320
>They will very much take actions that hurt humans to save more humans.

War for the survival of the human race, save a baby or save a convoy with blueprints for a cannon that can kill every enemy trump card before they cause damage. I know what im choosing, save the gun.
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>>54646322
The Kemmlerian style from Dresden Files is one of the most effective, because the undead's power scales with age. Even garden variety zombies are more like really fast terminators than something Clementine could realistically mow down en masse, and the ghost specialist could warp ghosts into lesser eldritch horror spirits.

Apparently the version of Dogs of War/potentially Tomb Kings is really powerful too, because the most powerful practitioner of it eventually turned into the God of Death and apparently posed a threat to Chaos.
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>>54646245
Need this for great justice
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>>54646413
Yeah, sorry, I meant resurrect the dead, not make zombies.
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>>54646352
The entire ranked system was explicitly pulled to the New World with the Six Great Gods. It very much so does exist in the same manner as the Six Great Gods.
>It explicitly does not exist.
That has never been stated. I've been over all the books but Vol. 12 over half a dozen times.
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>>54646338
>>54645803

Stop thinking Hollywood shows accurate portrayals of things.
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>>54646452
Gods are entities, dude. If it existed in the new world, it'd probably get pointed out. It would be a being running around and doing shit.

The system probably works more like Dark Souls Miracles. They're fueled by belief in the story, but the power isn't actually supplied by any being. They're not actually drawing from the god.
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>>54646322
>>54646368
Magicka has an easy spell for it.

Girl Genius has ways for Sparks to resurrect people, assuming the body is mostly intact.

Sburb can do it through the Life Aspect, though it seems to be a bit limited. Maids of Life can resurrect anyone, but can only do so once per person.

Duel Monster - Shadow Realm, has the Monster Reborn spell from one of the capstone items.

Dragon Ball has the titular Dragon Balls, and in Z you can purchase a Dragon Statue that would allow you to make more in other jumps.
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>>54646488
>They're fueled by belief in the story, but the power isn't actually supplied by any being. They're not actually drawing from the god.
Don't some miracles in Dark Souls not working you're not in their covenant? I'm pretty sure some Gravelord Servant shit gets fucked up if you kill Mr Bones.
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>>54646484
Stop defending serial killer larva.
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>>54646452
The God was a physical entity.

The clerics of the NW are probably just using ranked magic and thus don't really need a god. Ainz can use cleric magic and he doesn't worship anything.

They are just spells that the Six Gods/Eight Greed Kings/Whatever taught the people and the locals thought that all the divine magic must had been related to them.

But the Six Gods are in now way gods.
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>>54646535
Probably has to do with believing in the covenant and shit.
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>>54646554
>Ainz can use cleric magic and he doesn't worship anything
When does he do that?
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>>54646488
You are being very unreasonable. They are a function within the system. You are either stupid or deliberately not listening. There were established gods within the ranked system in the game and they retain their status in the system regardless of being dead as do the Six Great Gods. Even after Ainz Ooal Gown (Guild) killed the god ancestor divine magic could still be used from it. The things you are saying to do not have evidence. What I am saying does both in LN and WN even if the last one isn't strictly canon.
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>>54646397
I don't recall saying it's a trap jump.
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>>54646604
>You are being very unreasonable.
Ad hom is ad hom even if you're trying to be polite.

>They retain their status
Except they don't exist. You keep ignoring my point.

Hell your point about the god ancestor makes it more likely the magic is fueled by belief rather than by drawing direct from a god's energy pool.
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>>54646608
You didn't have to, you're a lot less subtle than you think.
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>>54646626
>Except they don't exist.
Literally everything does to a point within that ranked system so why would that be different other then for your headcanon?
>likely the magic is fueled by belief rather than by drawing direct from a god's energy pool.
Which has literally never been stated in either case to be a thing. Stop with your head canon. There is no evidence to what you're saying. Are you the author of the jump? You did a shit job so you are aware if you are.
>>54646554
I'm backtracking through the wiki and thinking about it and beyond wands no he hasn't used cleric spells.
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>>54646599
He can use Cure Poison in one of the Drama CD. That's cleric stuff in D&D (which is where all the magic from Overlord is based). I think he also uses some druidic magic in the last volume. Basically, he stole spells from people he killed using Dark Wisdom, and he is capable of casting the spells regardless of the requisites.

>>54646604
Neither in the LN or the WN is ever confirmed that the Six Gods did anything but teach people the spells. They were never stated to become a source of the spells.

For all we know they just work by author-fiat thanks to whatever transported them (much like powers for jumpers).
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>>54646725
Wait. He has location spells in some of the omake I want to say. But in my defense that could be in result of Dark Wisdom in which he took it from somebody else which would explain why it works anyway.
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>>54646599
He summons some seraphim angels at one point iirc.
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What are the current WH40K jumps, including those being worked on?
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>>54646770
>>54646773
Dark Wisdom works by stealing spells from people you kill instead of the eay the jump describes it?
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>>54646770
Overlord is heavily influenced by 3.5 and that's why I'm working under that assumption. Well, that, in addition to what the cleric said and what Shalltear said and the game already having established gods. My argument has more credence than yours. The entire system came over with the player who at the time were not gods. It's been reasonably said that's how it works.
>>54646822
Like I said I don't want to get into it. Last time I did everyone threw a shit fit. Think of everything the perk says as a bonus in addition to whatever it does. Specifically, Dark Wisdom makes you do a ritual to steal or copy a spell I forget the exact wording. Also gives you infinite spell slots.
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>>54646725
>Literally everything does to a point
No they don't. The actual being didn't get pulled to the new world. You don't seem to realize the vampire god is an actual entity, not a concept, that players could interact with. It's not present. It didn't turn into a real being by getting pulled into the new world. It doesn't exist. Are you fuzzy on the concept of existence?
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>>54646725
>There is no evidence to what you're saying.
None for what you said either, anon.
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>>54646889
Can you just spoiler some of the bigger stuff? I don't like it when jumps take huge liberties with the stuff works in setting and doesn't mention it in the jump or at least the notes.
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>>54646660
Or maybe you like to project. I'm criticizing the concept of the frames and suggesting that the people using them need to be dealt with. I acknowledged that the jumper isn't subject to it.
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>>54646889
But you just get the normal Dark Wisdom from Level 100 and the perk is a different effect that is named after it but unrelated, I assume.
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>>54646821
Tau jump is the only one.
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>>54645608
The gods of Overlord were basically high level players that appeared much like Ainz. The children of the gods, or godblooded can break through the level cap that seems to be there for locals.

The strongest one is probably about level 100, maybe lower. She's strongest human in the series beside AoG's Immortal Human who controls the teleportation within the guild.
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>>54646821
>Ones that exist or are being worked on: Eldar, Imperium (being reworked?), Tyranids, Sisters of Battle, Light of Terra (that one's weird), Black Crusade (in progress), Orks (taking even longer but you-know-who doesn't care because yelling at that maker doesn't fit his memes), Great Crusade, Dark Heresy (?), Commoragh (much earlier than most of the others)

>Ones we don't have anyone working on apparently: Tau (?), Necrons, Battlefleet Gothic, Only War, AdMech (unless there is someone and I forgot), alternate-Heresy timelines (Dornian, Hektor, etc.), Dawn of War

>In a weird place, probably cursed: Text to Speech Device
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>>54646822
Yes, very differently.

Vol 2
>The magic Ninya used was a spell of the arcane type, like the kind that Ainz could cast. In addition, it looked very similar to an Yggdrasil spell. Ainz had used a racial skill called Dark Wisdom to perform a rite which increased the number of spells he knew. Could I learn spells that weren’t in Yggdrasil by making a live sacrifice? Or is there another way? There’s so many things I know nothing about…

Prologue
>Momonga used the drops from PKing — the corpses of other players — to learn many different spells. Because of that, he was typically placed in this position during dungeon raids.


>>54646889
>My argument has more credence than yours
Says you.

>The entire system came over with the player who at the time were not gods. It's been reasonably said that's how it works.

It was never stated they became actual gods. Also, that they killed a Boss Event and the spells still worked means nothing, since that Boss (like every other Boss) would respawn so others could kill it (even if it took an entire year to respawn).

Meanwhile, we know that even after being considered gods, they Six Gods died, one of them being killed by the 8GK.
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>>54646889
>Overlord is heavily influenced by 3.5 and that's why I'm working under that assumption.
Gods being necessary for Divine Magic is NOT default in 3.5. 3.5 accounts for Divine Magic supplied by an individual's self or fueled by their belief in general (Especially in concepts like justice, hope etc etc.) The requirement that Divine Magic be drawn from a God is a concept in the FORGOTTEN REALMS CAMPAIGN SETTING (and some others), and by the by in the lore for FR it's noted that the only reason divine magic is restricted to being drawn from Gods is that the FR gods made it that way and eliminated anything that'd let mortals get around it, which specifically states that it requiring a god is NOT the default way it works.
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>>54646905
It doesn't matter at all that it isn't physically there it exist within the system already.
>You don't seem to realize the vampire god is an actual entity, not a concept
That doesn't mean anything, and I do. It can be intractable and have an in-game function.
>>54646915
I have literally quoted the LN. Fuck off.
>>54646923
Oh Christ. Off the top of my head
>Mermaids are a heteromorpic race
>Slimes excel at Rogue class which is why Solution is a Rogue and not a Warrior
>Some Slime classes will only have a vision of like 300 meters unless they're a player in which you probably brought the item to fix that
>Fallen Angels aren't a thing
>Mana potions aren't a thing but anyone with mana can transfer theirs to someone else
>All the world class items talked about in the jump are made up instead of ones we actually know about
>If you took the World Champion class you'd be given a piece of World Champion tier gear or a set (full armor) depending on what you want
>World Champion allows you to use [World Break]
But really the list of things wrong in that jump is incredibly. Who
>Silver doesn't beat a Were's regeneration it just does them extra damage
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>>54646985
Bed head/general early morning messiness is kinda hot.
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The grim adventures of Billy and Mandy
reaper -300, someone has got to take over while he is busy with those kids.
Roll(1d8)+0:3,+0 Total:3 CenteroftheEarth well you don't have to be lonely anymore because I'm going to build you some friends!
Cartoon logic free well this isn't so bad
*I’mNotAboveCheating-200
manual labor free for reaper. I have no idea what to do with this
supernatural possessions -100 discount for reaper another acquisition luck boost!
master life-and-death -300 discount for reaper Defined Immortal?
MagicalTrunk-100 discount for reaper. I wonder how much I can stuff in this thing?
TheReaper'sScythe , free for reaper wells. These are some nice abilities AppleofDiscord -300 hello kallisti Lockseed!
The plan :Okay the good news is that we are nowhere near the main plot so were largely free to do a how to/DIY episode . At least until the K.N.D screwup and I need to bail them out again, also going to use the accessories to configure my sacred treasure into a Scythe and imbue it with Reaper'sScythe powers via arms fusion crafter. I'm probably going to spend a lot of time hunting down candy and disrupting coffee Mining operations.
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>>54647050
See >>54647011
>>54647012
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>>54647036
Fusion Crafter ?
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>>54647050
>>Slimes excel at Rogue class which is why Solution is a Rogue and not a Warrior
Actually, not true. The other three canon slimes are heavy tanks and two of them are good damage dealers.
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>>54647050
>can transfer

This is important, how does mana transfer work here?
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>>54647091
>Anon's eyes light up, thinking he can fuck his mana into people like Fate.
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>>54647091
Never explained. We know that Ainz ordered the dog-headed maid to assist Shalltear to open a bigger gate, and that the Slane Theocracy gets extra-mana to do 7th tier spells by preforming large rituals.
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>>54647099
I was thinking about that myself when he brought it up just now.
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>>54647074
>>54647068
Aion tower of Eternity jump Has the armsfusion crafter which moves the magic/power out of one weapon and into another of the same type empowering it.
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>>54647050
>everything must be exactly like in the canon story
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>>54647112
Thanks
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>>54647128
Fuck off, I'm the one who asked him for it so don't be a dick to him.
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>>54647153
Wew lad, if that post seems dickish to you, I don't know how you can read this thread without bursting in tears.
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>>54647011
>It was never stated they became actual gods.
Clerics say others as I was talking about up above.
>means nothing
Means a whole hell of a lot because what you end up implying is that everyone for that time wouldn't be able to use their magic. And so what? Gods can be killed. Especially by themselves and Surashana (I think you spell it like that) by getting ganked.
>>54647012
I said influenced not exact. Very little of it is exact.
>>54647128
M8, when you're making something based on something you make the things not some powerwank shit to appeal to a bunch of fucking idiots who wouldn't better. You can go fuck yourself. If someone messed something more well-known like this has been there would be hell to pay everywhere.
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>>54647153
It's fine. Most of them are faggots who don't know their face from a pile of shit. Leave the arguing to me.
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>>54647216
>leave the arguing to me
I can't stop laughing.
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>>54647233
Ignorance is bliss. I know I'm in the right I don't need someone to affirm that.
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>>54647192
>Clerics say others as I was talking about up above.
The only thing the cleric says is that he feels the power of his gods as he casts his spells. But mages also feel things when they use mana, so it really proves nothing.

> And so what?
If you are implying that they are power source and can be killed, then the spells should stop working. If they were killed and nothing happens, it could probably mean that you are using the wrong D&D basis, as >>54647012 said.

>>54647192
>I said influenced not exact. Very little of it is exact.
The only non-exact thing (when it comes to magic) from D&D is that no magic caster needs to memorize spells and they rely on mana (much friendler in game terms).
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>>54647216
That's. That's hilarious. Doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, that statement is just so... perfect.
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>>54647233
>>54647278

Anyone got a pic for that /fit/ meme about War Machine and Dog the bounty hunter?
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>>54647252
Honestly, I don't care about your argument. Sure, you listed a few nitpicks, and stuff you personally might dislike, but nothing that would actually make the jump broken. If you can't show some actual problems in the jump, fuck off.
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>>54644578
If I take Valkyrie Core Knowledge, is it possible to create cores that don’t cause Detachment Syndrome?
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What are some good early jump that can get you essential perks (immortality, regeneration, mental health stuff, no biological needs, etc...). I've got no clue where tf I should go after my first few jumps, but rollchains are for fags.
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This thread will die before I can address everything. Won't drag the argument to the next.
>>54647296
Are you fucking serious? A few fucking nitpicks? There are entire mechanics which do not exist. World changing items which do not exist. Races which do not exist. It's hard to address everything because unless I make a pdf there will not be enough space to address everything because almost literally everything is wrong. It's actually that bad. The author who made that jump did not know all the source material and instead of leaving some things out or just waiting to make the damn thing ran with it. Go fuck yourself.
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Would mane of the purebreed work on a lunar exalt if you were able to ride them into battle?
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Guys, Shalltear's spells are literally powered by mana. She has a personal mana pool same as other casters. How is this an argument?
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>>54647386
hero BBS
marvel for regen
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>>54647388
Yeah, sorry about your autism. There are loads of things we don't know yet about YGGDRASIL or that simply weren't mentioned. The OC World Items fit pretty well with the setting, fallen angels are common enough that I'm sure there would have been a race for it, you were wrong about the slime class anyway (but chose to ignore the post pointing that out, lmao), etc. Yeah, I'll just stop arguing here as well. If you hate it so much, make your own jump for it. Pretty sure that it'll be worse than the one we've got right now though, as you don't seem like someone who can do anything but complain.
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>>54647436
>marvel
Yeah, no thanks. I'll go there only after I've got enough perks to survive the death of a universe. Totally forgot about BBS though, I even got a build for it. Thanks.
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>>54647388
>There are entire mechanics which do not exist.
That's how all jumps where most of the power is front loaded work, by offering perks that improve on that further than people can in canon. The Exalted jumps are the same way.

>World changing items which do not exist.
It's canon that there are World Items in the setting beyond the ones that are described. You have to fanwank things of that power level anyway, and the jumpmaker just fanwanks a couple for purchase.

>Races which do not exist.
This is your only real point. It is bad that he handles angels different from how we see angels in canon.
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>>54647050
>Fallen Angels aren't a thing
Isn't here like a book that can make people into fallen angels?
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>>54647398
Probably, I guess? For as long as you're riding it and they serve as a mount anyway.
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>>54647504
>This is your only real point. It is bad that he handles angels different from how we see angels in canon.
Nah, not really. YGGRADSIL was a huge game, fallen angels as a race were bound to exist. Besides that, the only angels we've seen yet were summoned monsters. I'd assume that the player race would be either completely different, or have an option to become a classical angel anyway.
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>>54647473
>slime class anyway (but chose to ignore the post pointing that out, lmao)
There is so many variants of everything that to say one race is better than the other is pointless. As a general though it was stated about slimes in relation to Solution they are a low DAM class so they make bad warriors.
>>54647514
There is an item "fallen feather" or something that turns people into devils or imps. Never said to come from a fallen angel. Given the feather perhaps angels that fall just become devils.
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>>54647566
Isn't the giant floating fetus NPC an angel?
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>>54647597
The unfallen but eldritch kind, yea
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>>54647597
Oh yeah, there's that guy too. Not too sure if he's a real/pure angel though. Does someone have his statsheet?
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>>54646352
>Not really, that god didn't get pulled to the new world with them. It explicitly does not exist.
>>54646626
>Except they don't exist. You keep ignoring my point.
I feel the need to weigh in here.
Anon, you seem to be an idiot.
Summoning magic is a thing in the setting. The players that were summoned over can still summon creatures that did not come over with them, because when they got pulled into the world, the entire system they used became real, including those summoned creatures still being available for summoning.

If the fluff of the game had certain diving magic users drawing magic from some god, that became real along with the magic system. Jump like every other thing that was made real.
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>>54647597
Victim is an angel with a positive karma of one. That's another thing wrong with the jump. You don't need to be good to be an angel or bad to be a devil. Vitctim is neutral and it has been stated there are good demons from the game that acts tsuntsun.
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>>54647611
He was an angel alright.
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>>54647346
I guess though honestly I argue that the Cores are not the problem but undeveloped brains and minds being exposed to constant harsh warfare.
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>>54640589
That's just a more freeform one. You're probably not going to get the equivalent of anything above the 300-400 price tag in the World Devil section though, apart from it scaling to whatever form you're applying it too.

Yeah, you can block it.
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>>54647655
True. There is also the
>the informational complexity of the human brain is reduced
part which sounds like something to avoid.
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>>54647388
>I don't have an argument so I'll stop replying but I'll pretend I won anyway.
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>>54647388
The sheer fucking arrogance in this one post. Goddamn.
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>>54647566
>>54647597
>>54647608
>>54647611
>>54647632
>>54647620
Victim has 1 racial level. We know for a fact that you can level up your race and it changes/gains addition functions, or else unlocks a higher-tier version of that races that also changes how your avatar looks/works.

I highly doubt all angels look like fetuses. Chances are, the fetus look is the product of being a very low level angel, and that either higher level angels start to grow up/look different, or else you unlock another angel class (archangel, seraphim, super duper bluper saiyan angel, etc) that will also change how you look. We can't take Victim's appearance as the default and only appearances of angels, just like how we can't take the angel summon creature as how the player class would look.
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>>54648080
I mean I'm an animeonly and even I've seen the Slane Theocracy's summons, which definitely don't look like most kinds of fetus
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>>54647617
The god is a raid boss, as an actual entity and NPC. Not just a generic summon monster. It didn't get pulled over, or it'd be present. Don't be a fool.
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>>54647973
If a jump had even half the problems I mentioned beyond even half of all those it actually does it would be unjumpable. You are shit eating faggot and go fuck yourself. I'm actually looking through the books right now.
>>54648044
You too. /jc/ has gone to shit and now literally thinks as long as everything is a fucking wall of words it is better than what the jump is actually suppose to be about. You'll eat literally shit as long as someone goes on and on about it being anything but shit.
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>>54648112
I addressed those at the end.

>>54647632
I should note here that I lost my 0, he's got 10 in angel levels. I'm sure someone will point that out as their entire argument.
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>>54647789
Alright, thanks. Not really interested in the stuff above 300-400 tiers anyway.

Would getting stronger life energy allow me to get more powerful attachments and more control over the World Jumper forms? Like how Giger appeared to be in full control?

Also, would I need to get the Weapons purchase twice for claws on both hands?

And if I get the Imprisoned drawback, can I assume the special someone from the Dependency drawback is also there?

Oh, and lastly, if I'm immune to death curses and such, the Recoil wouldn't be a problem for me?
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>>54648124
You're so insulting it's hard to believe you were ever serious and not shitposting.
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>>54648136
He also has 10 in Archangel.
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>>54648163
Also true, also doesn't invalidate my point.
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>>54648124
>a whole load of pointless vitriol and self absorbed bitching
You're worthless. Your opinion is worthless.
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>>54648171
Just pointing it out. To be honest, I always assumed Victim was just designed to look like a fetus because it fit his theme as a...well, victim
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>>54648157
It's frustrating because I know for a fact because I've been in this situation before that even putting all the effort into proving you all wrong it won't matter because you are all a circlejerking hivemind all will side with yourselves regardless.
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>>54648124
/jc/ has "gone to shit" because of entitled assholes like you.
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>>54648193
Yeah, that's another possibility. Yggdrasil had a pretty robust creator, I can only imagine that you get a wide variety of choices in how your character is going to look.
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>>54636376
Yes I would.

But no gender change, I like being a dude
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>>54648205
>Thing is provably wrong
>No
Boy I sure am entitled. Go fuck yourself.
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>>54648197
You're getting worked up and posting your speculation about what you think is most likely the answer as absolute fact, then butting heads with people who have different interpretations and speculation. Of course you're frustrated, you're asserting authority you don't have and missing that you're playing with fuzzy lines.
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>>54648124
What the fuck do you even want out of an Overlord jump you stupid piece of shit? You don't have a fucking point. All you're doing is whining and acting like because people disagree with you that means they're idiots and wrong. All you're doing is asserting your opinion and calling it fact.
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I'll probably need to ask this next thread too, but get ready for the most vague perk description ever!! I remember there being a perk that sort of makes items/vehicles/whatever into the same "style" as the jump your in now. Then there was a description about some regular mech thing being a giant skeleton mech thing. I'm well aware this is pretty vague, but any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
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>>54648230
I've quoted the LN and WN and none have done that. You're headcanonfags and can go fuck yourself. All that matters is what is written. You are wrong.
>>54648237
>what the fuck do you even want
Fix things k plox thx.
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>>54648237
He's literally making the anti Dirge argument. 'it's all oc, the jump is bloated, remove all the content that isn't directly based off a character or item in the story, fuck you if you disagree because you're WRONG'
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>>54648274
>I've quoted the LN and WN
You sure did. But you don't seem to realize that those statements can be interpreted differently and leave plenty of empty space for speculation, which is what your conclusions ultimately are, and which is what everyone else is doing too. You having those quotes doesn't make your interpretation of them an authority.
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>>54648285
>Make the jump the jump
>I am wrong for wanting this
Fuck me in the face.
>>54648300
Makes it more valid than yours which lacks it.
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>>54648143
Well, stronger life energy would get stronger stuff but the rule'd still apply. You'd get a better physical boost but you wouldn't be pulling out something like the Family power no matter how strong.

Nah, paired stuff like that is fine for one purchase.

Yes, they'd be there.

No, if you're immune it won't hurt you or anyone else.
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>>54648080
Just to point out, Victim has 29 racial levels. Other than that, I agree.
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>>54648221
>jump author added OC races that are fitting and a popular counterpart of something that already exists in setting across most of fiction
>they wrote OC items that are appropriate compared to canon examples of items at that level
Oh, gee, it's the fucking end of the world! Everything in the entire jump is shit because of a few reasonable extrapolations! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>54648230
>>54648237

As a seperate uninvested party I see his point. You guys just seem to be attacking he's attitude rather than the points he made.
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>>54648274
Okay. Well, your opinion is actually trash, you're a fucking stupid asshole, and no one likes you or agrees with you, so why don't you shut up and fucking kill yourself?
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>>54648317
All the proof we have of Fallen Angels points to them becoming Devils when they fall. Go fuck yourself, headcanonfag.
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>>54648330
Because I like making you mad and telling you you're stupid and smell like poop. Fix thing.
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>>54648323
Here's the thing though; he literally just wants the jump to be less. He doesn't want anything added or improved or changed or replaced, he just wants everything that he doesn't approve of personally removed outright.
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>>54648362
I WANT IT TO BE ACCURATE AND YOU WANT POWERWANK
THIS IS THE DIVIDER
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>>54648274
Brellin isn't even here. If you want to yell at the jump maker then go to SB and do it there. As is this argument is rather pointless.
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>>54648323
We argued his points. He long ago stopped introducing new ones and is just insulting people, thus people are responding to his attitude.
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>>54648310
>Makes it more valid than yours which lacks it.
You don't seem to understand. Other people have seen those quotes and interpreted them differently. They're not ignoring the quotes. That's what makes their arguments as valid as yours.
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>>54648376
Fuck you SBfag, fix it.
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>>54648376
>As is this argument is rather pointless.
I know. Why I didn't want to raise the points in the first place.
>>54648378
I started to look at the books and people kept insult so I can't telling you to fuck off which made looking through the books harder. Go fuck yourself.
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how would the slane theocracy react to me stealing and brainwashing Zesshi Zetsumei to my side?
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>responding to this shitposter
He's done this before you stupid fucks, just ignore him and leave him to rot.
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>>54648388
>and interpreted them differently.
Based on evidence which isn't there.
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>>54648415
Your interpretations of those statements don't have any extra evidence beyond those statements either. They're not more valid just because they're yours.
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>>54648409
We're on page 11, it can't matter anymore.
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>>54648311
For Nier what kind of things would having the raw magical power of No. 9 and Fully Written Story let you do? Never played the game, but I remember in Automata Emil's clones blowing up apparently destroyed the planet?
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>>54648404
Do you really lack the foresight to figure out "how they would react" to that?
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I'm also doing the books from japanese to english.
>>54648450
Everyone did the equivalent of say, "no". Those that were less inclined just told me to fuck off. You are not due kindness or an answer so long after that.
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>>54648404
>Zesshi Zetsumei
They would shit so many brick houses they'd be able to relocate their entire populace if you attacked. That's a bit of an exaggeration, but she is essentially the most powerful human in the series that we're aware of, and their biggest ace in the whole
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>>54648124
>You too. /jc/ has gone to shit and now literally thinks as long as everything is a fucking wall of words it is better than what the jump is actually suppose to be about. You'll eat literally shit as long as someone goes on and on about it being anything but shit.
Are you the guy that drove Dirge out because his jumps were too OC for you but you didn't have the balls to replace them?
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>>54648404
>how would (organization) react to me stealing and brainwashing (asset) to my side

Truly a question for the ages. Well, I can understand why you'd be stumped but to answer your question: They will pat you on the back and give you a sticker for participation.
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>>54648124
>You too. /jc/ has gone to shit and now literally thinks as long as everything is a fucking wall of words it is better than what the jump is actually suppose to be about. You'll eat literally shit as long as someone goes on and on about it being anything but shit.
Are there any jumps at all that you consider good? Which ones?
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>>54648497
No, but I do not morn his passing. He made things needlessly complicated but at least they were accurate. This has the sin of both. One is fine and he did good work. Just perhaps best he work on something else then this.
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>>54648485
People were arguing their positions with you at first. You're the guy that started in with the 'fuck you' level stuff.
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>>54648394
This thread in general has a frankly baffling tendency to do bad ideas, and then admit it knew they were bad in the first place. I just don't see the point.

For future reference? If you want something to actually change, you might want to try taking it up with the guy who actually made the jump instead of arguing with random anons and hoping they will see the innate superiority of your intellect.
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>>54648499
>>54648486
i just thought they would try to get her back so that i could destroy all of their power structure top to bottom
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>>54648485
>Everyone did the equivalent of say, "no"
Yeah, because that's all you deserve you fucking asshole. You literally came into the thread and asserted that the jump is bad and wrong and fuck everyone who disagrees from the outset, and then proceeded to provide a bunch of minor irrelevant details and complaints about OC and a demand to have your way and it all removed.

You threw a fucking temper tantrum like a fucking retarded child when people refuted you, and then justified yourself by saying that you don't need to provide reasonable arguments because people disagree with you.
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>>54648311
Cool, thank you for answering.

Finally finished my build now then.


Alice [Free, only option]
Location: Zera
>perks:
Life Points [Free] Alice stuff!
Materialisation [Free]
Manifestation [Free]
Spirit Form [Free]
World Devils [Free]
Bad Language [50, discount] Could be useful.
Totally Alice [Free] Quite nice.
Sinesthesia [Free] Always Take Sensory Boosts, and the drawback's removable by Totally Alice.
Safe Travels [100, discount] Seems useful. Especially if I want to visit Maze.
Slipping Into the New Skin [100, discount] Half-Word Devil and other forms. Nice.
Otakuism [200, discount] This is mostly so I can focus on all the sensory data I get at once. That's... really damn good with all the sense upgrades I keep stacking.
Imaginary Reality [200, discount] Seems like it'll be useful, yeah.
World Jumper [400] This seems very cool to me.
The Light [300, discount] Useful. Not sure what else to use with it yet. Maybe the Force?
Anomaly [300, discount] Let's FEEL things very strongly. Seems good.
>world devil form [+1000wd]
Strange Body [Free] Giant monster, perhaps?
Flight [Free] Flying giant monster.
Weapon [50] Which of course needs very sharp claws.
Floating Eyes [100wd] And extra eyes.
Physical Enhancement - Durability, overall [200wd] Of course it's damn tanky.
Physical Enhancement - Speed, overall [200wd] And fast.
Physical Enhancement - Strength, arms [200wd] As well as having STRONK arms.
Power Suit [300wd] And I've got armor around that, buffing me even more. Also, making me really huge.
>items:
Gas Mask [Free] Seems fun, I guess?
Pet [50, discount] I'll go with a kitten?
>drawbacks:
Dependency [+100] Dependant on someone.
Imprisoned [+200] With whom I've been locked up.
Manifestation of Lust [+200] Also, I'm very lewd.
Maze Target [+300] And I'm a target. That seems like it might be somewhat of a problem.
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>>54648532
No, they'll serve you cake and tea and crumpets! Then you'll become best friends, and skip over the rainbow to slay the Jabberwock with the Vorpal Sword!
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>>54648509
Most done by stupid_dog I think his name is. Just to start, anyway.
>>54648515
You can only say "no" some many times without a good response before someone gets mad.
>>54648521
I know arguing here is pointless I just have nothing better to do.
>>54648541
Thread gonna die. Just KYS.
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>>54648532
>thought they would try to get her back
She is essentially the new world equivalent of a nuke, and they only have 1. Whether or not they'd even send the Black Scripture to get her back or not is debatable, and I'd put money on them just trying to kill her instead.
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>>54648514
>at least they were accurate
You know if you're going to shitpost on both sides of the fence you should at least have some integrity in what you say
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>>54648566
>without a good response
Anon, you were arguing interpretations from the start. If only hard information will be a 'good response' then you'll never be satisfied, and the real kicker? That's how everyone feels about you dismissing them without hard statements.
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>>54648566
>Most done by stupid_dog I think his name is. Just to start, anyway.
...You realize there's boatloads of things in his jumps that aren't exactly "canon compliant", right?
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>>54648566
>I just have nothing better to do

There's flashgames, porn, elephant seal pup videos and livestreaming

You can't seriously be more invested in an autistic game of pretend about a Japanese comedy power fantasy about a salaryman who turns into a giant magical skeleton than any of the above.
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>>54648566
>Most done by stupid_dog I think his name is. Just to start, anyway.
Supernatural is horrifically inconsistent with the actual series.
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>>54648514
>This has the sin of both.
You are lesser than a fucking insect in fucking intelligence. You aren't fucking allowed to make assertions of fact on anything anymore. You entitled, self absorbed, stupid piece of shit. You are fucking worthless and nothing you say will ever have any relevance. Just as a show of disrespect, I'm going to title the next thread 'Overlord is Perfect' and then I'm going to spend the entire thread singing its praises and shitting on you. Because fuck you. You deserve to be shit on constantly for fucking hours.
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>>54648566
>I just have nothing better to do.
Clearly.
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>>54648604
His complaint is against length, go see why he thinks Dirge is shit. >>54648514
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>>54648472
That was cause there were millions and millions of them in Automata.

That said, if you'd like examples, look up some of the boss fights in Nier and pay attention to the blood magic used during cutscenes. Then just multiply that by ten and you'll get your answer.
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>>54648594
From the Final Fantasy X jump I read it was mostly so. Minus the dress spheres but that could reasonably be put there. The Mako too.
>>54648604
I haven't seen everything. That what I have has been fine within the context of the subject.
>>54648613
I masturbate 7+ times a day and don't play video games anymore. Life is dull. Watching a stream the whole time though.
>>54648626
Wouldn't know. I don't watch shows about gay boys doing gay things and people saying it's not all super gay. Have the brother touched yet y/n?
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>>54648640
>he's a shitposter
Oh, isn't that shocking. I never would have guessed.
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>>54648654
Not your fucking blog. Stop posting if you aren't going to post about jumpchain.
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>>54648654
>From the Final Fantasy X jump I read it was mostly so
That was made by Brutus unless you're talking about the remake that's still ongoing. But the remake doesn't have dress spheres or Mako. Even the SB jump doesn't have Mako so I have no clue what you're on.
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>>54648654
>I masturbate 7+ times a day and don't play video games anymore. Life is dull. Watching a stream the whole time though.
Dude, get the fuck out of your house. Like, right now. Go for a fucking walk or something, just get the fuck away
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>>54648654
>I masturbate 7+ times a day
Jesus son, calm down. It'll still be there when you're forty, you don't need to get all your wanks in early
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>>54648683
Dirge's jump does have the beginnings of Mako. It's a reference to the fact that at the end of X-2, Shinra mentions he's got a theory for how to harness the planet's energy for electricity, and canonically his descendents go on to found Shinra Corp from FF7.
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>>54648632
I obviously can't force you to do so, but please don't sink to his level. Just...just look at >>54648654. This is what you are trying to outdo.

>>54648650
On that subject, would Anomaly add anything meaningful to King in Sekai Oni? The impression I got was that after being hit by an Anomaly's strongest attack the King thing was still pretty much unharmed.

Also is it just me, or is Power of Love really pricey for a single-decade use 600 CP investment?
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