Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

How many different armies do you own?

>>54635533
It simply says 'units attacked by this weapon do not gain any bonus to their saving throws for being in cover.'

This means that if ATTACKED- not even hit- the unit loses any and all armor boost from cover. Period. If it specified for a round, that'd work. But as is, it literally just means "boop, no cover for you. Sorry mandrakes!" and that's all

>>54635483
>The average Admech player brings around 6-10 destroyers at a standard 2k game

Hardly anyone is bringing destroyers in 8th. But considering your dumbass claim I doubt you've even played 8th.

>>54635603
It uses the same language as skull cannons etc, it is not a debuff the weapon itself ignores cover.

>>54635605
You're fucking kidding, right? I bring destroyers literally every game, and they're great. 70 points isn't bad at all considering that next to cawl they're pumping out stupid amounts of damage. Literally everyone except you is bringing them, apparently.

Have YOU played 8th? 2 grav squads is the norm, plus maybe another squad mixed in. Wtf are you bringing if not Kataphrons?

Has anyone done an analysis of which chaos named characters are good in 8th?

>>54635603
You're retarded, they don't gain any cover bonuses against that one attack, it doesn't eliminate their cover bonuses for the rest of the game.

>>54635635
Kastelans and Neutron Onagers are the meta atm. The general consensus is that destroyers are overcosted.

>>54635603
Yeah, and next round, when they are being attacked by bolters or whatever, then they aren't being attacked by that weapon, and therefore gain cover.

Stop being a huge shitter

>>54635631
Maybe. I guess I'm stuck on the 7th function/rules, but it can be read either way in those cases. Odd.

Oh well, it's douchey for friendly games but could be fun for tournament play

>>54635649
Depending on your army probably all of them. Kharn feels like the weakest, due to his aura being 1" and he only swings at S6 compared to a lot of named characters it doesn't really swing high. He does get 12 attacks though.

>>54635659
It does not read either wayas it doesnt say lose the benefits or unable to gain benefits.

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Held the line against the dreaded PBJ Nids this Sunday what about you anons? Any interesting games for FoK?
And it was a 2000pt game.

>>54635652
>shooting kastellans
>literally shit unless you double-shot, which is wildly impractical 90% of the time (unless American)
Fiststellans, brah. Also most times the Icarus is better, but neutron is still badass.

>>54635671
Abaddon seems quite powerful. With so many 2+ to hit characters and melee weapons being strong the changeling is interesting.

>>54635649
Typhus, Magnus, Huron are the top chaos marine characters.

>>54635731
Huron? Why?

>>54635724
Karanak is pretty bad all things considered but yeah abadabba is pretty nice.

>>54632506
Making a new post based on the answers that I got from the last thread about running low model armies w/knights. One anon suggested Grey Knights as a good buffer for a massive knight which I think sounds pretty cool as I like their look.

My new question would be how would you build an army with GK and IK? I think paladins look really cool but after looking at their point cost I'm pretty hesitant. Would it be viable to run a Knight Crusader, one Grey Knight HQ, and as many paladins as I can fit?

Once again, sorry for the noob questions. I have only just played my first few games of 40k with some Orks that I got second hand. I like my Orks but I hate moving like >100 models every turn.

2500 game tomorrow, I need some help with my list.

Basic stuff:
Kharn
Chaos lord
40 berzerkers
4 rhinos

What I have available:
7 hellbrutes
2 squads raptors
5 oblitarators
30 chaos space marines
20 chaos terminators
10 possessed

>>54635759
Well you have to add the seven brutes. It's not even a question at this point.

>>54635744
Cheap way of making all your units immune to moral. And hes a psyker.

>>54635759
>7 Helbrutes
You know what to do

>>54635759
Any idea what you're going up against?

>>54635759
All the brutes all the time. Then Termies. Then Raptors. Then Marines. Then Possessed. Then Oblits. See what list you can throw together and get back to us.

>>54635759
Loadouts on the brutes?

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Dug this bad boy up. He was made under far older rules than is current. Is the Venom Cannon and boneswords legit under the current rules?

This was assembled ages ago, so nevermind the wonky venom cannon

>>54635795
Ultramarines, last time it was a lot tacs and sternguard in rhinos but that was 7th.

Can I get a critique of my 1500point list? Gonna use Templar rules, say they're a Templar Brethren squad supported by two Dev squads. I know I'm clearly in the casual fluff build, I just don't want to get stomped every time I play.

Captain, SS + TH
110
10 Man Vangaurd Vet Squad
SS + P Swords
250
Chapter Ancient
72
Chaplain
72
Land Raider Crusader
Hurricane Bolters, Twin AssCannon, Storm Bolter
289
(2) 5-man Dev Squad
2/2 split ML and LC
Cherub
170x2
(2) Razorback
Twin AssCannon, Storm Bolter
102x2
Contemptor Dread
CCWep and Kheres AssCannon
163


Plan is to load up the Dev squads into the Razors, everything else into the Crusader. Also considering dropping the Chaplain for an Apothecary and giving the Razorbacks Twin Lascannons instead. Thoughts?

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>>54635649
Typhus is a monster and ridiculously cheap. Stats of a Lord, psychic potential of a Sorcerer, buffs nearby pox walkers.

In combat you're looking at 4 S7 AP-3 D3 on a 2+, 2d6 S4 AP-3 on a 5+, Smite, and then another mortal wound on a 4+. In return he's T5 W6 2+/4++/5+++ and can cast Miasma of Pestilence on himself so enemies are -1 to hit him.

Good god, Typhus.

What's a good tzaangor to rubric ratio for my TS army?

>>54635704
Neutron Laser > Icarus
One fucks heavy targets in the mouth and is alright against infantry with heavy stubbers the other one is ok vs non-flying models and great against shit with fly

Not really sure where you're getting that dakka bots are shit from unless you're exclusively playing on city fight tables.

>>54635603
That's the same wording for my smart missile systems.

I don't play like an idiot. But i'll be more than happy to play your way with you.

>>54635806
3 snap fot multimeltas, 1 with missile launcher and plasma cannon, 1 with missile launcher and fist, 1 with fist and hammer, and an autocannon contemptor.

>>54635900
I admire your spirit.

I'd drop the number of storm shields to maybe 4 or so. Is there a reason you are running 10x Vanguard as opposed to 2 units of 5x Company Veterans, which are statistically nearly the same, except for they can absorb hits for your Captain.

Other than that, I'd consider some Crusaders. The standard Crusader brick I run is 10 Crusaders (2 Power Axes, one on the Sword Brother) with 5 Initiates holding knives. I run two of those and just footslog them.

Love the Contemptor, wish I could get a hold of one that wasn't the static GW pose. Have you considered a Lieutenant? In the new book they're pretty good. Also, since you're only running the one character, save some points and give the Captain the Burning Blade, since it costs you a meager 4pts.

Brothers, help me out on my quest!

>Slaanesh+Nurgle
Anal
>Slaanesh+Tzeentch
Tumblr

I need to find the other combos!

Are Wracks ever worth it as deldar? They're 11PPM and doesn't seem that great. I guess going to T5 with a Haemy isn't that bad maybe?

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Its not perfect but im happy with it.

>>54636004
Well, Khorne + Slaanesh should be obvious.

painting harlelquins looks not fun

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So I've recently acquired the funds to allow me to start 40k. Only problem is that I don't know what to start with. I've played the first DoW and loved the colour schemes for Word bearers, world eaters and emperors children chaos marines, so they're an option. My other two choices are either orks or dark eldar (though the whole "npc" thing is a turnoff.

Can anyone give some advice to ease my pick, or describe how the different legions I listed play/have good lore?

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>tfw store hasn't reported anything for Konor yet because the owner put an incompetent megalomaniac in charge of reporting

>>54636072

Don't listed to the SM and CSM dipshits who call them NPCs, it's a tired meme for people who shit talk other peoples plastic army men

>>54636072
Downloads for all the indices are in the OP, and the CSM book is dropping in a week (and thus will have a digital copy available in the OP within a week after that). Read up on the armies, see what their units look like, what looks fun, what flavor sounds good, etc. You want to pick the army that scores the highest overall marks for you between:
1. Looks fun to paint and assemble
2. Looks fun to play
3. Has fun flavor

>>54636072
As far as Chaos Marines go I'd hold off a week or two and see what the Codex brings before making a choice; just off fluff I'd go Word Bearers or Emps Children of your choices, probably the latter because Noise Marines are awesome.

>NPC

why would you let /tg/ memes dictate your army choice

>>54636072

Pick shit that you like the look of

Also it really depends on how much you like painting. If you fucking hate painting, then painting a bajillion ork boyz is not going to be fun

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>Ordered my first SoB squad yesterday

I'll be glad when I have a few of them. Vehicles aren't too expensive and I can deal with other squads well enough but the basic ten person squad is a kick in the dick wallet.

>>54636026
High impact sexual violence?

Any guesses on what the NightLords legion tactic will be? I'm curious because In Midnight Clad is their strategem. I'm kind of worried that they're going to get something like -1Ld within 3" or something because while fluffy, it's extremely limited, especially when you look at the SM tactics.

What do you guys think of Doom Sirens? Worth the 22 points?

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>>54636026
>>54636162

AAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T PAINT FACES AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>54636185
A more usrful ability would be to force morale saves, something that disables modifiers or auto successes etc.

>>54636227
Skin tone and then a wash over it maybe use a super detail brush for white eyes but skip pupils.

>>54636026
Power metal. Seriously, Khorne+Slaanesh is pretty much the Manowar combo...

>>54635977
IIRC, it was originally to cut down on Elite units that I had, but that was an older list and it would indeed be a straight upgrade, along with the Burning Blade for my dude. swapping those out. With 6 SS gone, I have 47 points. Would swapping the AssCannons with Lascannons on the Razorbacks be a good idea? Leaves me with 17 points, though I do have to rebuild the Vets.

>>54636185
It fits fluffy and the general trend of the current army rules. Nightlords have always been garbage in marine v marine fight due to their tactics not working.

>>54636264
Ye I tried pupils and the nigga looks cross eyed

>>54636026
How about K+T or K+N?
>>54636266
Fuck yes

>>54636268
If you can rely on your ranged support to remove hard targets and use your melee to engage MEQ's and the like, I'd go with Axes instead of PS, but otherwise, that's fine. Lascannons are fine on a Razorback, but I've heard they're more effective on a Predator, though I don't know what you have. Seems like your list is wanting to lean against your range to soften up the targets before you plow through.

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>primaris HQs don't have the options for super expensive wargear
>instead they force dumb players not to pay 25 points for a moderately more effective weapon, instead investing it in more troops
>bad players willfully wipe away their tears with another plasma incinerator as good list building is forced upon them

Can't really complain

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Skullhamma when

>>54636247

I doubt GW would give anyone an ability to force moral ignoring shit like Commissars.

>>54636276
How is -1 Moral within 3" in anyway on the trend of Ignores cover, rerolling dice, -1 hit, advance and charge, hit and run, a x rerolling charges? It's not even Marine v Marine because at least three armies straight up ignore moral.

>>54636431
no idea but i could see GW putting out an apoc or supplement for superheavies around Christmas (i would love it if they brought back some of the old superheavies that never got updated like the silver tower or subjugator)

might be time to try your hand at homebrewing up something

>>54634756
Basically during, I think, Second War of Armageddon, the Black Templars and SoB were fighting Orks. I can't remember what happened exactly, but I think the SoB refused to retreat from a cathedral because it had relics in it, the Black Templars got mad saying they were wasting troops, resources and so on a pointless defence. As the Orks started to overwhelm the SoB, the Black Templars shelled the cathedral to a crater. The SoB killed themselves covering the relics so they weren't crushed. From then on the two hated each other.

That was before BT out and out think the same as SoB on Emperor's divinity so the event was retconned to BT and SoB defending the relics together.

I think. Plus the whole anti-heretic, anti-witch sentimentality.

>>54636448
It's even worse when you consider that -1 LD will at most just make a unit lose 1 extra model from a failed test. Now if they have stacking LD penalties it might be ok but most people either take something to help them ignore or mitigate moral damage, or take units small enough that you'll have killed the entire unit before they'll even need to take a test anyways.

>>54636513
Unfortunately GW has never once considered the meta when creating Nightlord rules

"Give them bonuses to Fear because they're scary!"

"But so many armies are immune to Fear, makong it stronger doesn't provide any kind of-"

"I'm spooked solid!"

>>54636553
While its not balanced, you have to admit it makes sense fluffwise; all the Night Lords have ever been good for is terrifying civilians, it makes sense that they struggle against Necrons and Orks and Tyranids and anything that ins't intimated by that shit.

>>54636513
But some fearless stuff can be mitigated, snipping commisars, synapse bugs or killing nobs for example?

So Possessed being 2 wounds now, what are your thoughts about them now?

>>54636448
Well morale is useless without something that can counter that shit.

>>54636370
Thanks for the help, dude.

I was originally buying stuff build a 30K Fists army, but with FW not going into 8e and no one in my area playing 30K, I'm gonna build a count-as 30K Fists army with Templar/Fists rules. What better model for an Emperor's Champion than Sigismund, right?

Sad that it's probably better not to run a full suite of SS + P Sword, the fluff appeal is so strong. Back to the drawing board for me for a bit.

>>54636591
Worth it

>>54636584
>sniping
>chaos

Anon...

>>54636584
You're still only making them suffer a single additional casualty from a failed test, assuming the penalties don't stack at least.

Depending on how the army is built even if you gun specifically for all of their moral dampening units the penalty may not even be relevant until turn 3 or 4.

>>54636591
Chaos spawn still better offensively but they are pretty tanky now.

>>54636584
sniping characters is generally a pretty tough

>>54636553
yeah it wasn't a strong rule. hilarious against orks in 7th though since you could force a lot of leadership/morale checks on them easily

>>54635605
Idk. My last match I fought 3 grav destroyers at 1k and each turn wiped out one of my combat squads that were in cover, then cawl repaired damage they took while fisto kastellans marched up the field and fisted me

>>54636584
>>54636513

I do feel like those fearless things likely should have scaled for the number of dudes being lost. Like a Nob whacking 1/3 the number you would have lost to rally them or a Kommisar executing half that number. So as not to completely negate the effects of morale.

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Repulsor with lastalon, twin lascannon, onslaught cannon, extra ironhail stubber, 2 krakstorm launchers and 5 fragstorm launchers

4 STR 9 AP-3 D3 damage shots

2 Str 6 AP-1 shots

6 STR 6 AP-1 shots

3 STR 4 AP-1 shots

5D6 STR 4 AP0 shots

Same price as a land raider, essentially is a godhammer with most of a crusaders weapons smashed on.

The only thing it loses is the 2+ armor save and range, the latters not a huge issue when delivering aggressors. Dedicated transport is just icing on the cake

Damn fine tank

So some people are saying Doomsday Arks are the only thing worth bringing and others are saying they're the worst Heavy Support Necrons have.

Any other Cron plays have thought s on them? I've used a pair of them in two games last week and they seemed alright. I do wish their damage output wasn't so random.

Also realize that once assembled the under side is going to be impossible to paint

>>54636627
They aren't a bad unit, they just aren't something that's a must include in every army like they were in 7th. They're just not a unit that is seeing wide usage because they're fairly expensive and there are betting things to bring for the same cost.

>>54636606
>>54636618

Take marauders, a sorc with infernal gaze, DS khorne meltatermies with IoW and warptime them, dunno anon, use your imagination

>>54636581
Even as an imperial guard, why would they be more spooked by the edgy bat-marines than they would by nids, necrons, regular chaos boys, etc ? Doesn't make sense

>>54636656
>better things to bring
Fuck I cannot type.

>>54636639
Just take heavy destroyers and laugh as all your opponents vehicles become heaping wrecks of ash on the field

>>54636639
Heavy destroyers are better at the anti tank job, although there's nothing really wrong with a doomsday ark. It at least has greater range and a bit of anti infantry defense.

>>54636631
Wow anon, you managed to get a lot of those weapon profiles wrong.

>>54636687
Arent those like 100 points for basically one lascannon shot?

Oops, didnt realise the old general was dead.

Reposting my question:

Am I just misreading the codex, or did they take away weapon options from Land Speeder Storms? Is it HB/Cerberus only now? I have a painted one with a MM already on it.

If you were to cast Fabulous Bill's buff on possessed and fail 3, would you lose 1 model and have 1 on 1 wound, or would you have 3 on 1 wound?

>>54636247
outright negating other abilities is probably a bit much.

could get something like "when a unjt takes a moral test it is also suffers 1 mortal wounds." Still lets you have an effect without beinng to much of a hard counter.

>>54636084
>6084▶
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Why put one person in charge? That's retarded.
In the store I work at, whoever is at the till just reports the results that get through at a given time.

At the moment

>Small force of chads and death guard I'm planning on expanding
>About 5000 points of 30k iron warriors
>About 3500 points of Eldar

At various other points in my gaming life I've had

>2k or so of Ultramarines
>8000 points or so of Tyranids
>3000 points or so of grey knights

>>54636713
75. Considering the doomsday ark is 203, you get more shots from the destroyers that are more accurate as they re roll 1's.

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So I made a pretty madman list for tomorrow

150 Boyz (5 squads of 30 each led by a nob with a PK)

3 Wazbom blasta jets for my AT

2 warbosses with power klaws

2 Big Meks with killsaws and Force fields

2 Weird Boyz, one with da jump, the other with the extra attack power

never fielded a flier in a while, let alone most of mine, I can't imagine it will work, but I want to try and fly them in formation

>>54636724
Its not so nuch being a hard counter as removing a bullshit hard counter.

>>54636712

Onslaughts str5 instead of str6, what else is wrong?

>>54635757
Bumping my own question since a lot of people seemed to have skipped over it to help the guy with his list.

>>54636758

Lascannons are D6, not D3

>>54636748
>150 boyz with an invuln
God help the man if he doesn't bring any flamers

>>54636723
Once you allocate a wound to a model you have to keep allocating subsequent wounds to that model until it is dead.

>>54636660
Because edgy bad marines would have fun with you before they will kill you, if they even do, as they may find funny to leave skinned and half dead for your friends to find you.

Because they know stories, horrible myths and nightmares of how terrible they are, or heck, some of them may have even seen what the edgy dudes do, the flaying pits, the abuse of the bodies of villagers, dismembering, all of them while nuclear bombing the planet to make a long artificial night and hacking the TV and comms to project non stop videos and audios of torture actions in the best snuff style. Its not because they are worst than nids, its because they are the fear incarnate, of the malign beast that hunts you in the night, the terror that come for you to be the last one on the torture line after your whole family and being forced to watch it, knowing that you're next, knowing that'll take long time before the release of death. A time filled with endless, excruciating pain and madness. Because they bring hell and agony, maddening terror, and they have come for you.

AVE DOMINUS NOX

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>closest actual GW to me is in Canada
>none of my stores are involved in FoK, Armies on Parade, etc

>>54636790
Shame that doesn't work on 90% of the factions they fight

>>54636767

Paladins are great but don't feel like you can't take power armor Grey Knights either, they're very good at shooting in this edition and you'll still end up with a tiny army.

Knight crusaders are fine, Gatlings best. Feet stomps can handle most threats in melee. Just take 1 knight.

Take your full allotment of psycannons and always bring a paladin ancient and apothecary to help out your palabros

Stormravens are really good with Paladins too

If you're playing paladin spam you may as well take Draigo for your HQ while you're at it

>>54636723
lose 1 model have 1 on 1.
The unit suffers the wounds even though you're rolling for each mini.

>>54636791
Feel your pain. I need to take a plane to go to the closest store or an 8 hours trip on boat.

>>54636807
Orks fear nobs and bosses. Kill those and they'll fear you. Xenos know fear, anon.

Fuck I want to run some possessed with my Nurgle but the models look ass.

Any ideas for conversions?

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>>54636790
Truly frightening

>>54636835
Nigga you crazy? The possessed models are some of the best Chaos has.

>>54636790
So, nothing worse than Dark Eldars.
Also if you know in advance you're fighting edgy saddists, that would be a reason for many soldiers to fight to the bitter end rather than get caught alive

>>54636749
limited abilities to deal with moral are fine.

they're abilities some units are built around and having all nightlords begate synalse makes them to good at fighting nids (as well as neing bery unfluffy)
but is of no use against say Tau or Eldar who nightlords should be able to terrorize.

adding more damage to moral tests that is useful against eveyone without being situationally overly poweful.

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Sentinels are no longer available according to the online shop.

Not just temporarily out of stock, but no longer available.

Are we getting new sentinels for Guard?

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>>54636850
Oh yes, a fucking meme. How about pic related?

>>54636835
Plaguebearers kitbashed with raptors/warp talons minus thebackpacks. The putrid guts, varied demonic heads and withered limbs could give a good sense of them being possessed whilst both kits have demonic looking swords and you can probably alter lightning claws to look like fleshy bone.

>>54636895
sentinels are getting squatted

Can I get some critique on this 1k Iron Hands list?

Battalion

Captain with relic blade, bolt pistol, armor indomitus

Lt with power fist, bolt pistol, jump pack

5 scouts with bolters and a heavy bolter

5 marines with combi plasma and plasmagun

5 marines with combi flamer and heavy bolter

Contemptor with kheres

Vanguard with th+ss sgt with melta bomb, axe + ss, lc+lc, power sword + bolt pistol, chainsword + chainsword, jump packs

Predator with TL lascannon and heavy bolters

Razorback with TL assault cannon

Lt goes with vanguard, captain probably goes with the plasma marines in the razorback.

>>54636903
Aww, he found the local nick knick·knack. I heard they were having a sale on props.

>>54636877
Not that guy but some of the arms and definitely those wings look silly. I love the torsos though.

>>54636895
This. Does. Not. Mean. Anything.

SoB have gone 'sold out' for fucking years multiple times. It just means they have no plans to replace them atm. But they do small runs.

IG have way way WAY more shit needing updating first, like fucking troops. Give us some new ones, some female options and bring back Praetorians.

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>>54636877
IMO gal vorbak are the best looking possessed.

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>>54636850
i see your silly and raise you this

>>54636884
Agreed on deldars. To fight to the bitter end you should overcome your fear, and it's nice to think you're brave enough on Vietnamese horse breeding forum, but not everybody is equally brave, or bold, or resolute -only in the movies- and that's why you need friendly commissars to kill the dude next to you to remind you how brave you are.

>soulfein's porn gallery got put up on sad panda

W E W. That Fulgrim one is funny.

>>54636895
no sentinel packaging is all.

>>54636903
Why would anyone be scared of manlet Rievers?

>>54636884

It's different than Deldar, who have a tendency to strike quick and retreat. Once you're captured, you're fucked, literally and figuratively. Night Lords will draw it out and make sure you know how fucked you are at all times, and just before you finally decide to kill yourself because you've had enough, this 8ft tall lightning covered monster leaps out of the shadows, rips off your arms and legs, and mounts you to the wall.

>>54636895
A lot of stuff is sold out for the moment while they print off the new datasheets for them
Stuff like sentinels don't have high priority, so they wait longer

Will I have trouble assembling my Ork Nobz if I paint the face plate and face before gluing them together? It just seems harder to paint if I glue it on first.

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>>54636072
if "the npc thing" is turnoff for you, then definitely dont start orks

we dont need GROTS

>>54636970
Nah he goes full cartel and skins you while he broadcasts it to your comrades.

>>54636942
Which is amusing as historically speaking, Night Lords get their heads kicked in when loyalist marines come to town and they have to stop picking on civilians.

I actually like Night Lords though, I think their over the top, Dick Dastardly style evil and designs are fun.

>>54636989

That, too. People forget that during the crusade, planets would surrender if they knew the Night Lords were coming because fuck that.

>>54636072
>NPC
>another 'I believe /tg/ memes' post

I doubt you are genuine m8.

>>54636970
Night Lords do it for the terror
There is no reason for them to torture you after capture, apart from their own sadism.
Dark Eldar go in with the objective to capture as many people as possible, and take them back to torture them for as long as possible, to keep their souls intact.

And then probably turn you into a grotesque when they're done.

>>54636964
-1 LD (stacking) for each manlet reiver unit within 6" of you. Another -1 if they're manlet raptor reivers, another -2 if said unit suffered a casualty from butcher cannons

:^)

Reminder, not much longer till we find out if this is true or not

>-Night lord trait should be : -1 ld by nl unit around you (6" and stack)
>-Iron warriors : +1 in cover and -1 vs covers
>-World Bearers : Reroll moral.
>-Emperors Childrend : Always pile in first (WTF?)
>-Black legion : +1 ld and a bonus for advancing and shooting (too small)
>-World eaters : Pass all morale while in melee
>-Alpha legion : Deep strike at 12" from ennemies.
>Night lord stratagem is : -1 to hit.

>>54635582
I'd put my Blood Angels and Vanilla marines as one faction considering they're all painted as one chapter, so that along with a couple of Grey Knights Squads and a small Talons of the Emperor force makes 3.

>>54636964
Because those are made for actual killing. Because of the stats for Reivers, you are encouraged to only take 5-man squads and just rush their shock grenades at someone for the debuffs.

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>>54636903

Hnng. I love that model. It took me forever to realize it was a MKIV helmet. I took inspiration from it, but I am leagues behind.

>>54637028
WE also know VotLW is +1 to wound, not sure if only vs Imperium though or how much CP it costs

>VotLW
>+1 to wound

If this is true, it's insane.

>Khorne Zerkers
>S5 base
>S6 with Chain Axe
>WotlK
>T4 on 3+
>Titans on 5+
>combine with 3 fight rounds per phase

Bretty good. There any way to get another +2S for them?

>>54636903
>this Halloween I want to dress up as a Reiver mom

Orks VS Tau tomorrow, how's this sound:

>HQ
>Big Mek w/KFF/Skorcha
>Warboss with PK/Skorcha

>TROOPS
>20 x sluggas
>20 x sluggas
>30 x sluggas
>30 x sluggas

>ELITES
>5 x Nobz with skorchas
>Painboy w/grot orderly
>3 x Nobz on bikes w/skorchas

>heavy support
>Battlewagon w/rolla, lobba, rokkit
>Battlewagon w/rolla, lobba, rokkit
>3 x Killa Kanz w/rokkit

>Ded. Transport
>trukk w/rokkit

Goal is to send 40 boyz in two battlewagons plus Nobz in trukks and on bike on one side and footslog 60 boyz underneath the protection of the KFF and waaagh! field on the other

>>54637072
>tfw you realize reivers are shitty wannabe night lords

>>54637070
You still wound t4s on 3+ with or without Wrath of the Lich King

>>54633403
>The Magnificat (a brain implant)
>(a brain implant)
>brain implant

ORDER 66

If BA got +1S on charge

>S4 base
>+1S Sangy Priest
>+1S charge
>+2 from Power Maul

That's S8. Shame no armour pen.

In my opinion, I think BA should get +1S on charge and Fights First if they charge to represent the old +1I. They won't do +1S and +1A cause that defeats what Black Rage does (unless Black Rage stacks to give +2A on charge). After all, BA are suppose to be faster and stronger than any Space Marine when they give into the Red Thirst. But can't really represent fastah.

>>54637102
So if you're S6 with VotLW you're wounding T4 on 2+?

Alright I got like six hours to paint 20 kabalites, 10 incubi, 6 reavers, a raider, a venom, a void raven and an archon.

That's doable right?

>>54637115
>can't represent faster
Give them +1 to charge distances ir something?

>>54637117
turn off your computer and better start painting, becuase that's a hard one

>>54637117
Get a fucking move on buddy!

>>54637088
Everyone's running their Nobz these days with Skorchas... it seems kinda expensive. What is everyone's experiences with it? I kinda feel like combat Nobz would still be the way to go

>>54637130
I guess? In 7th they had +1I on the charge which was neat. Giving them +2" charge would make them very good I think. Also thankfully GW is bringing back the old Pysker powers, so Mephiston can at least get his flying powers back.

>>54635900
Get Grimaldus and an Emperor's Champion in that LRC. For what they do, they're absurdly cheap. Also, they're cool as fuck, especially the EC.

Anyone else think Ynnari Eldar might be a bit broken? I just got tabled turn two by them because of their ridiculous soulbursts, plus general shenanigans like striking scorpions and dark reapers. Prolly would've lose earlier but he completely forgot about soulbursts for the first half of the game.

I play Ravenguard btw.

>>54637147
>anything in an ork list
>expensive

I've got 3 squads of nobz
5 w/ power klaws
5 w/ combo-rokkits because fuck yes
6 on bikes w/ klaws for those far away problems that need to die

Burns's and skorchas are really good though- dude all the elite ork choices with special weapons are the best at what they do, you just have to protect them to get in the fight

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>none of the primaris models has the option to take a plasma pistol (bar the hellblaster sarge)
>upgrade kit contains a plasma pistol
Why is this allowed?

any leaks as to legion abilities that aren't the loudest faggots in the Galaxy?

>>54635582
Three. Space Marines, Orks, Nids.

>>54637192
Because the Sergeant can take it?

So I'm wanting to start admech, have cawl already. Planning to get 2 start collecting boxes, a third onager, a box of destroyers, and a box of kastelans. What else should I look into?

>>54637210
The sergeant can't take a powersword, so it's a wash either way.

>>54635934
Double

>>54637028
>World Bearers

You fucking fuck

>>54637177

They MUST have one of the Ynnari special characters or they can't play as Ynnari as per the latest faq.

>>54637229
Then give the power sword to an intercessor.

Also it might have a datasheet for a sword + plasma lt or something

>>54637192
You realize they can just include a rules insert that adds the plasma pistol and its stats/points in the kit? They do that now. Welcome to 8th edition.

>>54637194

depends on how >>54637028

pans out, tomorrow will have IW traits

>>54637258
Then I got the unholy fuck bamboozled out of me as did the other marine player he played against. We didn't even come close to a victory.

What do. He's the shop owners kid.

>>54635688
>imperial guard
>interesting game
Wow like you brought a lot of veterans and like you deployed them in line and like that's fucking it

>>54637028
>give -1 stacking Ld

Oh boy! Its a good thing Ld isn't totally worthless! All I have to do is never play against Orks, nids, IG, and dark angels or hope my opponent doesn't spend 2 CP!

>>54636026
would that be Necro,Guro or just BDSM? I'm thinking Guro though.

>>54637274
If its a mistake you correct him with source. If he ignores your correction you don't play him again m8

>>54635688
mostly been painting , gonna trun in all my minis today and hopefully win a few games
chaos is in controll of my store atm , but hopefully that'll change at the end of the day

>>54637274
Show him the FAQ, as he may just not be aware of it. If he doesn't abide by it, don't play him.

>>54637261
True, but I had hoped they'd include all that shit in a codex.
Foolish, I know.

>>54637028
>-Alpha legion : Deep strike at 12" from ennemies.
they already mentioned AL are the stelthiest, so my guess is +1 Cover

>>54637028
>iron warrior trait being objectively superior than the IF CT+IF warlord trait by a wide margin against all but the most specialized of units
lmao

>>54637274
Its not actually that much of a handicap. Yvarine is pretty great. She can fairly easily give out free soul-burst actions.

>>54637316
Leadership debuffs aren't worthless vs Orks, if you kill like half their mob in one round you completely negate mob rule and essentially reduce them to Ld 0

>>54637192
Probably for the people who just want to use the modesl and are just running them with regular marine stats.

>>54637278
Play with tactical objectives if that's bothering you, pleb

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>>54637316
9 legions to pick and you picked the lighting covered cowards

>>54637346
That's why it's probably fake

>>54637228
Honestly don't buy an Onager on it's own. The SC box is a better deal and it gets you more special weapons for the Skitarii so you'll actually have the option to run a full 10 man squad with 3 plasma.

>>54637349
How is the Visarch as a solo Ynnari-faction enabler?

I'm not big on named special characters but like the Ynnari as a faction, he seems like the easiest to fluff as an Archon equivalent.

>>54637373
this is GW we're talking about
quite possible that diffrent people worked on the two codexes and didn't cross reference
or they did, saw WS always charge and said fuck that and made the EC trait

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>>54637357

Except they only lose a d3 because of that stupid stick thing.

>>54637365

Yes.

>>54637349
His list is 2x Wave Serpents with Maugan Rah, 9x Dark Reapers in 3 squads with 3 tempest launchers, 14 Striking Scorpions, 10 Fire Dragons, and a Farseer.

He doesn't own anything related to the Ynnari faction, he just jacked the free rules as he saw them.

>>54637404
>I want to abuse the faction abilities but not actually do it fluffy because hur dur.
What's the point on playing Ynnari if you're not going to use the Ynnari models as is? Having to fluff it as something it's not just to abuse the crunch? Just don't play the damn faction.

>>54637346

>Dorn being the buttend

sure seems business as usual

>>54637423

Because he's a WAAC fag pretending to be a fluff player by not wanting to use special snowflake characters.

>>54637423
>>54637437
So you don't want to play as your own dudes but be locked to a set of characters and armies?

>>54637423
It's a pretty stupid rule though
Like, there can only ever be 3 Ynnari battles going on at once?
A farseer can't lead a ynnari army?
Even as just a smaller part of a larger battle, which is what I generally assume most of them are.

Hey guys, I'm hyped by today's Slaanesh news and am thinking of getting that Favoured of Chaos box set to make a vanguard detachment of one daemon prince and three units of five possessed. I love Slaanesh conceptually and don't care too much about competition armies, but would you say this is at least a viable start for an army? Also it's $105.

>>54637423
>What's the point on playing Ynnari if you're not going to use the Ynnari models as is? Having to fluff it as something it's not just to abuse the crunch? Just don't play the damn faction.

Why can't a Ynnari army be lead by a Farseer? Are literally all the Ynnari hanging out in one place with Yvraine? It makes no sense. It's like saying you have to play Robot Gorillaman to run Ultramarines.

>>54637466
To be fair, Roberto is one of the most cost-effective units this edition. I get what you're saying tho

>>54637466

Literally yes. They're not that big of a faction, so they are all with one of the three at any given time.

>>54637423
>>54637437
Because
>>54637448
>>54637454
>>54637466

I dig the idea of Ynnari as a faction, especially for a Dark Eldar Kabal that sees it as a way out of the backstabbing society they're stuck in, but I generally don't like using special characters because of Your Dudes reasons. It also feels silly that one of the Big Three is there for every single skirmish a group of Ynnari might get into.

>>54637461
>viable start for an army
i mean sure, but you will need more everything seeing as you have no variation and little ranged units. do your self a favour and get some marines squads whilst you are at it

>>54637423
>>54637437
You guys are retarded. Yvraine IS the WAAC choice in this case because of Word of the Phoenix. Ynnari without WOTP is way less strong.

There's a 100pt HQ only tournament coming up, any ideas for what I should run?

>>54637509

I wonder if / when we see Codex: Ynnari they will allow you to field them without the characters?

>>54637505
This. It's a tiny splinter cult that managed to necro a half-assed avatar up.

>>54637505
S O U R CE
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C
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>>54637509
>>54637535

I hope you understand that the only reason the whole rebirth thing works is because one of the three is there to act as a focus. Ynnead isn't that big yet. You can't just say "Meh, I follow Ynnead now!" and all of the sudden not have you deldar soul leak out anymore. While in the presence of one of the conduits of Ynnead, absolutely, but away from that conduit, you still need to murder fuck for your soul.

>>54637530
a psyker of some flavour

>>54637505
"no"

>>54635582
space marines and admech

>>54635582
2
Orks and CSM/Deathguard

>>54637530
2 Dark Eldar archons, stock. Enjoy.

>>54635582
Guard and some space but never paint or play space

>>54636072
Word Bearers are pretty cool but don't get turned off by /tg/ memes, its just banter.

>>54637531
>Codex Ynnari
Please no. It works as a gimmick to field all your elves at once, but there are more interesting and less Sue-infested things you can do with Eldar.

>>54636227
>>54636264
I use a fine tip sharpie for pupils, fite me.

>>54637648
Nice invisible store

>>54637100
>tfw you realize reivers are better night lords than night lords

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this is my store at the moment
but today the imperial counter offensive begins, i'm sending in my Elysians !
will report back tomorrow with the results

>>54637550
In Biel Tan Yvraine learns the technique and talks about how she can teach it to others. So I don't think it's necessary.

Though I suppose Ghost Warrior will clear this all up in like a month or two when it releases.

>>54637413

That requires a Warboss within 3", which isn't always going to be happening.

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For real though, how is the Visarch as a solo act? I like the model.

>>54637707

A faggot for faggots who want to cheese with the faggot faction

>>54637662
sure thing, buddy

So haven't been playing 40k in a long time. 6th edition release was when I last played. Have a big horde of orks, particularly lootas, shoota boyz and looted tanks. These guys worth anything these days?

>>54637719
>t. pissed Space Marine

>>54637745

>get Codex
>get tons of new models
>get all the love of GW
>smashing the current campaign

Even if I played space Marines, why on Earth would I be pissed?

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Good FW units for Orks and Deathguard/CSM?

>>54637764
coz Ynnari would still rape you

>>54637719
>>54637719
any answers not from scrubs?

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Tips for gold trim?

Duncan used Retributor Armour, Reikland Fleshade and Liberator Gold but imo that shade/highlight makes it look kinda dirty

>>54637147

Well if you're looking to deploy flamers, you've got the choice between Burna Boyz and Nobz with Kombi-Skorchas.

36 ppm for the Nobz vs 14 for the Burna Boyz.

Nobz are D6 Str 5 Ap-1 autohits each.
The Burna Boyz are D3 Str 4 Ap0 autohits each.

Basically to generate just the same number of hits as the Nobz, you'd need to use 2 Burna Boyz. Which makes the point comparison actually 36 vs 28, which is pretty damn close. But the Nobz are hitting at the magical Str 5 AND Ap-1. That's a lot of extra hitting power for 8 points more.

On top of that, Nobz are a hell of a lot more survivable than the the Burnas, being 2 wounds and a 4+ save base vs 1 wound and a 6+ save. Nobz even without CC weapons are pretty decent in CC; they're swinging at Str 5 with 4 attacks base. Burnas are swinging for 2 attacks at Str 4 but with Ap-2, which isn't bad, but if you really wanted the AP on the Nobz, you could just take Power Stabbas for 3 ppm, which give you 3 attacks base at Str 5 and Ap-2.

So yeah, basically they outclass Burna Boyz at doing what Burna Boyz are supposed to be doing. If Burnas were D6 attacks like every other flame weapon then they'd actually be an option.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that each Nob is also tossing out 2 Str 4 shots that hit on 6's AND can take Ammo Runts for 4ppm that essentially function as ablative wounds.

>>54637707
He seems not too bad for the points as a HQ killer
Though he's really squishy with T3 3+/4++

I would prefer Yvraine in most circumstances though, as getting free soulburst actions is super strong.

Guys I am reading Fall of Cadia now can anyone tell me who built the pylons? The book doesb't answer just throws this line

>Even the identity of the pylons’ creators is shrouded in mystery. Some amongst the Cult Mechanicus believe the spires to be the work of the Necrons, or their mortal antecedents, but then there are those on Mars equally convinced that the pylons were constructed by the Old Ones for the sole purpose of destroying the Necrons and the C’tan.

>>54637808
Necrons did. They literally can take Pylons in their army.

>>54637651

Not that I play Ynnari, but if we're getting Codex: Death Guard and Thousand Sons, pretty sure we'll see Codex: Ynnari.

I'd prefer to see Codex: Exodites though for some sci-fi dino riders and Ranger-like light infantry units.

>>54637828
Necrons.

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How's this list look to play?

>Spearhead detachment with the assassins
>Add in a Primaris Psyker for the compulsory HQ to round out at 2000

>Custodes is a Patrol detachment headed by Celestine

Wanting a small model count for a fun army after orks

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>>54637830
Cadian pylon looks different than a necron pylon

>>54637821
Cool beans, thank anon. I wouldn't mind having a second HQ option for a Kabal only force anyway, so I'll keep them in mind.

>>54636940
An hour and a half late, but has anyone painted up Gal Vorbak in different colours? Or the Mhara Gal? Because a Nurglified Mhara Gal contemptor with boils greenstuffed over its parchments is something i'm considering if i ever get around to painting my Dark Imperium nurgle, and some possessed that dont look goofy would also be a plus

>>54636791
>https://konor.warhammer40000.com/
>>54636814
>>54636791

You are aware most GW stores accept results over the phone and asume you are not a cheating dick? Just call in the results mate.

>>54637838
Maybe rather than harlequins getting a dex there will be codex ctaftworlds, codex drew carey and codex aeldari dissidents or something, featuring harlequins, ynnari and some minor exodite/corssir stuff? Like imperial agents but eldar.

>>54637808
What you quoted is about all we know about who built the Pylons. There is no definitive lore on who built them beyond "it was probably the necrons".

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New Death Guard models when???

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How are Assassins this edition?

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>>54637889
there aren't that many pictures of gal vorbak painted to start with. Nearly all the ones on google are world bearers. Couldn't find a single one in nurgle colours. They look good in any colour IMO. They are also big guys, in case you didn't know. Bigger than normal marines.

>>54637509
Same, Ynnari seem cool to me compared to other eldar but I feel they are underdeveloped and hard to your dudes with.

>>54637946
Eversor rapes shit for his cost and culexus is scary to anyone who fields even one psyker. Havent had success witg vindicare or callidus yet.

>>54637951
>world bearers
I think you mean Word Eaters

>>54637930
Probably next month, since supposedly death guard is next dex after csm/gk

>>54637235
>2 to 1 ratio
Fair enough, that's what I was expecting. Guess I better start stocking up on bird people.

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Chaos chads when?
>>54637978
wut? gal vorbak are HH shit for word bearers. The sculpts look nice though.

>>54637978
>I think you mean Word Beavers

>>54637978
ah fuck. Now I see it. I should go to sleep.

>>54638011
As a chaos player I don't want Chad Marines, I'm sure primaris will switch sides anyway, humans tend towards freedom so unless they're literally robots chaos will tempt them.
Not that daemons can't possess robots anyway but you get the idea.

>>54638068
Their inevitable though, aren't the new plague marines already taller?

>>54638068
>chaos
>freedom
Are chaoscucks actually this retarded?

What models would be a good base for plastic Acro-flagellants?

The ones I've seen all use VC ghouls but they're too small for my taste. I always saw flagellants as more roid-ragey than retard strong.

>>54635582
Genestealer Cult (classic army)
Orks (Snakebites)
Ultramarines with large IG contingent (3 lemans, a platoon, 2 chimeras) and small Inquisition addition
Black Legion with large slaaneshian daemons allies.

>>54637779
>good csm
Hellforged leviathan
It self heals and heals for each kill.

>>54638068
>Chaos
>freedom
Only in the same sense communism means equality.

>>54638085
I think they're bloated with tumors anyway.
I'm not against our marines getting new sculpts and being slightly bigger than before, I just don't want them to call it something new and stupid.
>>54638087
>muh emprah
>chaos isn't freedom
>absolute loyalty to a god that doesn't want to be called a god is REAL freedom
>muh "a true god defies divinity"
stay mad loyalist
>>54638116
It's anarchic freedom, everyone is free, free to kill and enslave each other but at least I don't have bureaucratic chains holding me down unlike you loyalists. How's the ecclesiarchy working? Better yet, how are your inquisitions doing? Sterilising civilians still? Destroying planets of your own people?
The only redeemable faction inside the Imperium are Salamanders.

>>54638091
Empire Flagellants with guitar wire

Question:
Got into 40k a few years ago with a friend. We literally only played each other at my place (made for some interesting campaign stuff/comfy playing if not lacking in variety). Stopped playing for a few years and with 8th edition out I got back into it. I want to go get some rounds in against different people for fun and to get acquainted with/better at 8e, but my army is not fully painted. On top of that, a decent number of them are painted in a different (but similar kinda) scheme. How much of a faux-pas in general is it to bring primed-but-unfinished minis/mixed schemes. I don't want to be that guy, but I'm not particularly good at (or fond of) painting, can't afford to commission a paintjob, and would rather be playing than wondering why my brushes seem to never paint where I intend them.

>>54638147
Forgot to mention, CSM nurgle.

>>54638136
>commie chaoscuck loves niggers
Of course.

>>54638068
>humans tend towards freedom so unless they're literally robots chaos will tempt them

sure, trade one slavery for another, great idea

>>54638136
>I'm not against our marines getting new sculpts and being slightly bigger than before, I just don't want them to call it something new and stupid.

I think even the Tsons sculpts are slightly taller, someone posted a pic ages back but I didn't save it. I want them to redo the csm models, so I can get them. Not buying old shit unless it's from 2nd edtion. I like that era for no rational reason.

Also chaos ain't freedom, slaves to darkness and all that. The imperium sucks pretty hard too though.

>>54638136
Instead of bureaucratic chains you have your gods sending you off to die or sacrifice yourself in their name. Get ready to be wiped out of existence when you slight them. It's freedom on someone's terms, and your options are limited to "murder everything, ruin everything, torture everything, or spread horrific diseases".

>>54638068
chaos is slavery you idiot

>>54638068
How's that Slaves to Darkness book treating ya?

Can you use gate of infinity on a unit that is engaged in melee? it'd make it even more usefull than it already is.

>>54638164
They aren't niggers, they're skin is charred black, it's closer to having a full body brand/tattoo than having too much melanin.
>>54638166
>m-muh chaos slavery
We don't even keep slaves that often, usually we just sacrifice them so we can get some daemons or kick ass mutations.
Dark Eldar are the slavers.
>>54638169
Yeah, plus my noise marines are literally just some resin weapons, heads, and a powerpack you strap to standard marines.
A new sculpt would make sense at this point, Plague Marines got taller, rubrics are tall, all that's needed is some new sculpts for the standard marines.
I expected it after Cadia got destroyed but I guess I have to wait even longer.
Everyone is slaves to their desires and Chaos is literally our desires turned up to 11 and reflected back at us.
>>54638170
I prefer chaos' terms, bureaucracy is worse.
>>54638196
Nope.
>>54638202
What? The old fantasy battles omnibus?
Of course they'd give my faction bad names, we're the designated bad guys.

>>54636903
Blonde right side head:
>Being decapitated is better than I expected.

>>54637518
I'm going for some Noise Marines, of course. Sonic blasters seem really good.

>>54638212
You can.

>>54638234
I'm a little annoyed that we just got a refluffed version of Quicksilver Swiftness as our Legion Trait.
But yeah, if you're doing a full Emp's Children army, Noise Marines are great troops, little pricier than standard marines but every gun is an Assault 3 Boltgun and Blastmasters are great, I wouldn't spend points on Doom Sirens though.
Music of the Apocalypse is great too, if a Noise Marine dies he can fire his gun before being removed, this works in melee and he ignores the normal 1" rule for firing guns with it.

>>54638136
>anarchic freedom
yeah, being literally enslaved to gods is so very free
enjoy spending your next millennia bound in your chains of 'freedom', cuck
how are people like you still alive

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/01/legion-focus-iron-warriors/

It's up

+1 to hit and wound buildings

Ironlets will be so let down

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>Fly across country with army
>mfw my old Apoc Case gets manhandled and 3 of the 6 clasps snap off
Time to die I guess.

>>54638221
>we don't keep slaves
no, you are the slave retard

>>54638275
They look like a nightmare to deal with in close combat. Their overwatch is rather hefty, then they can stab you first even if you charge, and even if you kill one they shoot you with assault weapons.

>>54638293
>just wait guys, our no new models release will have good legion rules for all legions, I swear on my mum!

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>>54638293
nice ruse alpharius

>>54638293
>Thinking the members of the IV Legion are this easy to bait
It's not even near the time they come out anon.

If I have two grav talons in my reaver squad, can I inflict up to 2 mortal wounds per charge?

>>54638348
IV legion? Cuz you always have intravenous therapy after loyalists take your ass.

>>54638311
Actually the way Quicksilver Swiftness and Flawless Perfection are worded; which is the same way.
If one enemy charges they don't get to attack first for charging, but it's still his turn and he can activate his unit to fight before you because his charge and your Flawless Perfection cancel each other out.
It means multiple squads charging don't get to all go first but he's still the turn player and activates a unit to fight before you.

>>54638068
I'd love to see chosen having 2 wounds. We don't need primaris shit.

>>54638221
>We don't even keep slaves that often
you are a slave, chaosfag. you just traded one master for another

>Twin-Lascannon Razorback with a stormbolter 117 points

>Two Lascannon Centurion Devastator with a hurricane bolter 134 points

How does this make any sense, why did they make this change?

>>54638383
I'd use them to represent traitor Primaris.

>>54638286
Obviously we aren't commies, that didn't even merit a response.
Imperium works like communism the most besides Tau, killing thousands of your own troops while denying you did anything wrong.
>>54638287
>enslaved to gods
>says the Imperium
>who enslaved themselves to the Emperor
>who isn't even a god
the irony
>>54638308
wrong
>>54638385
>muh slaves to the chaos gods
I didn't realise the Emperor gave people mutations and psychic powers to help kill their enemies too.

>>54638372
>After loyalists take your ass
You mean the mouthbreathing retards that walk directly into incredibly obvious traps? Besides, what loyalists want my ass, Dark Angels? That's gay.

>>54637532
Mind you, an Avatar that looks like half-Slaanesh.

>>54638407
>I didn't realise the Emperor gave people mutations and psychic powers to help kill their enemies too.

Celestine can literally fly.

>>54638415
>Nyaaa, Eldrad, it was me, Slaanesh, all along! I will rule Eldaria!

>>54638428
So what?
Do can dark eldar scourges
Just sew that shit in

>>54638428
Half the time your Inquisition kills mutants, sometimes they weren't even chaos mutations, Celestine surviving the Imperium's bullshit long enough to do something important is a miracle in and of itself.

>>54638311
It's part of why I wanted to go full Slaanesh. I like the idea of getting in spiteful, parting shots as my units are destroyed, which will be often, as I'm not exactly running a WAAC list.

>>54635582
>How many different armies do you own?
Okay so
>Large Ultramarine army (2.5 - 3 full companies) inc Thunderhawk
>Guard, Inquisition and SoB allies
>Deathwatch
>Small Grey Knights army
>Warhound Titan

>Unit of Fallen

>Company of Word Bearers + Renegades
>Company of World Eaters
>Nurgle Daemons

>Large Nid army
>Genestealer cult army

>Dark Eldar & Harliquines

>Small ork army
About 25-30% fully painted

Also a crap load of Inquisitor stuff, BFG and some Epic.

I-I t-think I have a p-problem.

>>54637028
It's already confirmed EC ASF which is far better than pile ins
>>54636980
What face plates
>>54636930
>female guards
If GW does this I will slit my wrist into a Slaanesh symbol on both sides
>>54636895
>the laspistol is someone shooting out the cockpit of a sentinel at an ork for the CATACHAN ORK HUNTERS

>>54638407
>no argument
>tries to redirect back at the Imperium
Just explain to us already how you aren't slaves to the will of your chaos gods
>Tzeentch followers are all just pawns in some unknowable scheme
>Khorne followers are just mindless slaves to throw at the enemy until they die
>Slaanesh followers are just sources of amusement to feed a never ending addiction to excess
>Nurgle followers are just the worst case of Stockholm syndrome the galaxy has ever seen.

>>54638453
Play Ynnari, then your 'spiteful parting shot' from the next elf over has enough weight to wipe a unit and trigger a bullshit resonance cascade.

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>>54635582
Right now; Nids, Black Legion, Iron Snakes, Sisters of Battle.

I've owned and sold pretty much every army except tau at some point, but I've been playing since 1990 and worked for GW for a while in my teens/early 20s back when staff discount was 60% and you could order metal minis by weight which made collecting armies easy.

>>54638450
Cool, but the point remains.

>>54638453
Always happy to help a fellow Slaaneshi player.
Also from what I've seen and tested, unless Possessed get an upgrade in the Codex they aren't the best close combat troop to take as Emperor's Children.
They're cheaper than my go to option but you aren't really playing Slaaneshi if you don't take your army to excessive levels.
Point is Chosen with Lightning Claws are more dangerous in close combat than Possessed, more expensive but oh my god is it worth it.

>>54638407
>enslaved themselves
First off, that's *God* Emperor to you, cuck, and don't you forget it.
Secondly, the God Emperor doesn't promise me riches beyond imagination and then tie me to a pole and have birds eat my eyes for the next millennia as a joke. He promises eternal salvation from the shitheap that is your festering pile of sub par 'gods' and their fucking slavery racket.

>I didn't realise the Emperor gave people mutations and psychic powers to help kill their enemies too.
ah yes, i really needed that eighth mouth on my penis and that claw on my two, they really help me - same with the fact all my skin keeps sloughing off, great time

>>54637798
I use balthasar gold, null oil, more balthasar and then gehennas gold or runefang steel

>>54638407
>I didn't realise the Emperor gave people mutations and psychic powers to help kill their enemies too.
>th-thank you glorious chaos gods for gifting me with a 3rd arm that stabs me continuously. I'll be sure to spill more blood in your name the next time we raid the Imperials.
>Please consider someone else for the great gift of spawndom.

>>54638468
Explain how you aren't slaves to the emperor
At least we can choose where we make war

>>54636198
Not at the moment

>>54638474
But I like the fluff of the Emperor's Children more. The decadent noble duelist thing is great.
>>54638485
The possessed designs and conversion potential are too good for me to pass up, though. And what kind of Emperor's Child would I be to pass up artistry?

>>54638506
>we can choose
>chaoscucks
>being allowed to choose
yeah, im sure you all choose to be mutated freaks

>>54637868
...Slanntech?

They look like Obelisks.

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>>54635582
Five
Tau 1.5k
Chaos 2.5k
Dark eldar 1.5k
Space marines 1.5k
Grey knights (1metal terminator squad)
Caliban rebelled because Luther got BLACKED

First time player here, how awful is this necron army?

HQ:
Overlord
Imotekh

Troops:
Warriors 2 x 10

Elites:
Deathmarks 1 x 5
Triarch Stalker

Fast Attack:
Tomb blades 1 x 3

>>54635671
I find Khârn to be incredibly strong. Everything he's charged so far has been decimated in that fight phase and quite often he eats into another unit with his 2nd fight. Only thing he hasn't beat down was a Knight and even my Bloodthirster didn't finish him off after.

Too be fair though he's the only named character I've got so can't really compare and I always use dark apostles for my zerkers so don't miss the 1" buff.

>>54638468
Because we won't get shot by our leaders for displaying chaos mutations.
Also you know their are Chaos factions that use chaos as a tool right?
>>54638478
One mutant gets lucky enough to do some important shit so it must be a miracle by the emperor is not exactly a solid point.
>>54638486
>explicitly states he isn't a god
>tries to starve the actual gods of worship in a vain attempt to kill them
>fails at both of these
Nice god you have there.
If you fuck up, you fuck up, it's 40k, we're all going to die horrible deaths, might as well have fun with the faction that isn't communists dressed like Hugo Boss rejects.
>>54638504
Spawndom is a punishment dumbass, it's literally the gods saying "a mindless beast could do your job" and making good on it.
3rd arm that stabs you is probably a punishment too but I'm sure at least someone might enjoy it, like a World Eater that's off in the head, a Deathguard that can't even feel it, an Emp's Children that literally gets off on it, etc.

>>54638506
You don't get to ask a question until you answer the ones asked of you first.

Imperial worlds are free to live as they wish as long as they follow the Imperial Cult in some way and provide their tithe, a tithe that wouldn't even be necessary if Chaos hadn't fucked everything up in the first place.

>>54638538
>Because we won't get shot by our leaders for displaying chaos mutations.

Instead you get your throat slit so your masters can summon a daemon more useful than you are.

>>54638520
Doesn't matter, at least we can choose who we fight, unlike marines who have to go against unwinnable odds or have their planets exterminatused

>>54638459
Painting problem. WORK!

>>54638513
Fair enough, I'm getting Possessed as well, just because I can't afford to run Lightning Claw Chosen in every game I play.
Slaanesh Grey and Fulgrim Pink are good flesh tones for Daemonic Mutations btw, and if it's in the kit give the leader the most crab or lobster like claw, it's Slaanesh's thing.

>>54638538
>get shot by our leaders for displaying chaos mutations
I hope to the golden throne you're fucking shitposting, because that is the single most retarded thing I have heard today, and I go to a school filled with actual downs sydrome cunts. They shoot you because Chaos mutations aren't 'free tools to fight your enemies', they're fucking dangerous to everyone around them. There's a reason the Chaos Legions are so predisposed to fratricide, because your 'freedom' is full of backstabbing cunts, backstabbing gods and mutations that half the time only exist to stab you in the back.

>>54638552
Have you tried not being literally more useless than a Nurgling?
I know it's hard for loyalists to imagine not being utterly useless but at least try.

>>54638557
Oh yes, you 'choose' to fight whatever your champion wants to unless you want a demon maul up your ass 24/7 for the next century.

>>54638535
Use immortals not warriors, get another Stalker

>>54638567
>chaos mutations are too dangerous!
Yeah, to you cucks.
Possessed are a unit that shows, both in fluff and mechanics, that daemons and humans can actually work together.

>>54638543
>implying the Beast wouldn't exist or eldar, or tyranjds, or putting down separatists

>>54638559
I'm at work, that's the problem!

>>54638557
>chaos
>choosing who to fight
lol
the only faction who chooses who they fight is the Orkz, you fucking retard

>>54638569
>Imperium
>Useless
Have you looked at Konor at all? Chaos is so fucking useless they need xenos to fight their battles for them 120% of the time

>>54638590
>implying people don't need to defend themselves
What's your point here?

>>54638573
>your champion
He bested me in combat so why is he not worthy to lead us to victory

>>54638569
Yes, Chaos clearly has a deep respect for their followers and greatly values their joe schmoe cultists. They would never think of just sacrificing anyone who was just trying his hardest.

>>54638587
This, the gal vorbak are proof we can live in harmony together
>>54638600
That the tithe would always exist because of how overextended your false empire is