Modern General

is there a 150$ modern deck on mtgo thats actually good in the meta currently
or should i stick to standard

>>54620226
storm and Merfolk could can both be built for around 200-225 and both are decently competitive. storm goes back and forth a lot between tier 1 and tier 2.
That being said if there was a tier 1 deck for under $200 everyone would be playing it instead of spending a few hundred more for other decks

>>54620258
tier 2 works too, good enough to win a league with

>urza's mine

go ahead

Here me out
>Actual Modern Masters
>Unlimited print run
>36 boosters per box
>Normal MSRP
>No mythics
>Only modern staples
>Every rare is a reprint of a mythic or a pre-mythic-introduction rare
>Every uncommon is a reprint of a rare or a powerful uncommon (Fatal Push)
>Every common is a reprint of a uncommon or a modern-played common (Bolt)
Modern is saved? MtG finally dies in a bang? Either way, it's a good thing

>>54620383
Hear*
Also, it could be drafted (or not, I don't care about that)

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>>54620363
>celestial colonnade

pass turn

> draw
> "go"
> starts to sweat

>>54620363
>t1 swamp, tap play the rack
Pass turn

Are hypermats good again or will we never have sleeves that shuffle well again?

>>54620083
I was hoping for some advice for this deck. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-grixis-presents/

I'm hoping to keep the budget premise to it, keep it under 70$ if possible.

>t1 land ssg desperate ritual manamorphose into BB, cast tormods crypt, cast spoils of the vault, cast one with nothing then pop tormods in response to spoils, name storm crow as spoils resolves
Gg?

>>54621770
I don't really understand the point of Bazaar Trader and you might want to use Sleight of Hand instead of Burning Inquiry

>>54622039
bazaar trader gives a free harmless offering for immortal coil or abyssal persecutor

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Bought these for $30. What do you think?

>>54623178
You got all that for $30? Was someone getting out of the game?

>>54623178
You might have just gotten Chinaman'd, son.

>>54623178
Those are all chinaman. How the hell you didn't notice, when it's obvious through a god damn picture?

>>54623178
They are fakes but still a good deal if you don't go in high-level competitive events

>>54623212
>>54623472
>>54623503
>>54623212
Obviously since I bought them from a China man. I was looking for opinions on how convincing they look. At first glance they seem pretty good.

>>54623613
They look yellow as fuck

>>54623628
Yeah the Lilianas, though probably still fine with matte sleeves.

>>54623178

the only noticeable thing for me is the weird text spacing, but yeah as long as nobody is looking for fakes i dont think they'll notice

>>54623178
That Clique looks a bit too saturated to be Morningtide one.

>>54623178
>Text on tarns and snaps
>Yellowed liliana
>Color on the clique
>Gloss is almost certainly way off
>Out of sleeve feels like printer paper

On the upside youll probably get a few good reactions using them as coasters.

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>>54624197
>>54624330
The border looks like it tries to be the modern masters one while the symbol is from Morningtide.

>>54620363
mountain, swiftspear, swing for 1, go.

>>54621448
New matte Dragon Shields are great, they shuffle like butter.

>>54620363
>Brushes cheeto dust onto shirt
>Draws card
>Places unsleeved M10 island, taps, makes an indecisive grunt, untaps the island
Go

>>54620363
>mountain
>guide
>swing for 2

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Who /zoo/ here??
What do you think of my list?

>>54620363
plains, exile mox monkey, thalia, go.

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>>54624784
>Exiling gorilla shaman for mana

>>54624718
>/zoo/
Yeah, that's my favorite 8ch board, too.

>>54620083

>People think Thoughtseize is fair, fun or healthy for any format.

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>>54625026
>his day and deck are ruined by losing a single card

>have new deck but too lazy to sleeve it up
Guess it's Scapeshift again for me tonight.

>>54624850
>tfw it will never be good again

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>>54624570
Fakken kek'd

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>playing
Mono white death and taxes

does anyone have any good vial human lists or just a knight list not from 2012 I feel like playing a really janky deck

>>54625392
also everyone say nice things about thalia just like these japs did

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>>54625481
Thalia a qt. Not as qt as my waifu, though.

>>54625059
>thoughtseize followed up by surgical extraction
Not a single card anymore

>>54620363
Play blackcleave, pass turn and cycle at your end step

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>>54623628
>>54623863
>>54624330
Doesn't look that obvious to me.

>>54626159
Perhaps you need more time around real MTG cards or glasses. Either way double sleeve that shit for sure.

>>54626159
you will get caught and it is embarrassing when it happens. I don't have a problem with fakes, but I've seen judges casually walking by spot them from a distance through double sleeves.

>>54626392
>>54626448
You know that the lighting is different in those photos right? In real life the fakes(the ones the right side) look pretty much identical to the real(left ones) ones.

No way that it's that obvious like you claim.

>>54626614
Whatever you gotta say to make yourself feel better, man.

Just started building Modern and picked Merfolk as a first deck. Why are Minamo and Oboro usually played as 1-ofs in the deck? Is there some spicy interaction that I'm missing?

Any other advice about the deck would also be appreciated.

>>54627703
They sometimes kinda do something and come in untapped so there's no opportunity cost to running them as a 1 of over an island

>LGS has Serra Ascendants
>That's the only piece I miss in Soul Sisters

Are memes worth it?

>>54620363
Foothills, crack it for untapped Stomping, exile harambe, cast four burning tree emissaries, cast bushwhacker with surge, swing for 15, pass turn.

>>54627909
Yes But only if you play Martyr-Proc

>>54626614
nigga look at those snapcasters. Lightning or no lightning the hues are fucked up.

The font of scaldings is wrong too. Lilys are somewhat ok, yet they're notorious for being chinaman'ed so people will pay more attention to them.

I'm bringing treasure hunt + lightning storm to modern night tonight, wish me luck and no thoughtseize please.

>>54623178
Terrible colouring, especially the liliana. That set symbol just looks awful. Tho snapcaster, explosives and ancestral visions might look real when double sleeved.

>>54625392
I love how much salt thalia generates, if noble hierachs price was just a bit lower I'd play G/W hatebears.

>>54624618
Ty for the basic land I just topped vro

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First time playing Skred, any thoughts on the list before I sleeve up for tonight? Definitely want a second Chandra in there but USPS is slow as fuck

>>54620363
>darksteel citadel
>mox opal
>springleaf drum
>ornithopter
>thoughtcast
>2nd mox opal
>vault skirge
>cranial plating

go.

>>54620383
That would be a good idea, but it would piss of the collectors a bit because they cant sell bolts from their collection for tree fiddy a pop.

>>54628652
>play plains
>path skirge
Your turn

>>54625059

Thoughtseize is arguably the best black card ever printed. Every mono black deck should run a playset and every deck with access to black mana should include one or more. It's just too good because it breaks the design of the game. It keeps your opponent from playing his cards outright.

>>54629045
ban thoughtseize then?

I'm new to MtG and I still don't get this whole story-told-through-cards thing. So what is the Hour of Devastation? What's the plot?

>>54629087
shut your whore mouth!

>>54629099
This is the Modern general, for competitive discussion. We have story/lore threads every now and then though, you should ask there.

>>54629087

I wouldn't mind. I love control. Cards like Duress, Inquisition of Kozilek and Cabal Therapy are fine.

>>54629150
>ban Thoughtseize
>reprint Therapy for Modern

keep the good ideas coming, /tg/

>>54629099
tldr, apocolypse teir happenings on amonkhet, all but one of their gods die and nicol bolas beats the gatewatch and they all plainswalk randomly so its sort of what happened in the one story arc of one piece where the crew gets sent to different islands.
also theres a reveal with ral zarek working for bolas, hes from return to ravinca.

>>54629250
reprint StP so we have a diff option to path to exile

>>54629045
>it breaks the design of the game
>it keeps your opponent from playing his cards outright
Preventing your opponent from doing shit has been the basis of magic from day 1.

>>54629250

Cabal Therapy can be complete dud the first time you cast it. I think it's more fair than Thoughtseize in an environment without Gitaxian Probe.

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>>54629266
Post yfw Big Daddy Bolas eternally BTFO the Gaywatch.

>>54629314

>Taking an extra turn for 2 mana has been the basis of magic from day 1.

That's a shit way to argue.

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>>54629360
Shame his planeswalker card is more EDH than modern.

>>54629363
Well you COUlD play a t2 timewalk in the old days

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>>54629404
I'll build bolas-tron featuring this. It is going to be terrible but I don't care.

>>54623178
>19 cards
>$30
>Less than $2 a card
Great fucking price for fakes. You got a great deal. Not having to wait for shipping and getting playsets without any chaff.

People criticizing them as fakes don't seem to realize that you got a huge discount AND now you can play in events. I own all of those myself and the Snapcasters and especially the Cliques are questionable but the rest are good enough.

Everyone here is a fucking card forgery detective but nobody in real life gives a fuck.

>>54620363
>play forest
>turn 1 glistener elf

your go

>>54623178
>lilliana breaking out of the portrait
Classic mistake!

>>54629250

Therapy would be kind of bad in Modern just because the card variance to name is so much higher compared to Legacy. Legacy you can roughly guess what they're on by what dual they play or by casting G Probe.

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>>54626448
Why is it embarrassing when you can just plead ignorance?

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Anybody here have the scans for the HOU artbook?
pls respond

>>54627909
It's pretty fun. Also don't be afraid to splash other colors to deal with your meta.

>>54629508
I personally have no desire to buy fakes, but I wouldn't give two shits if someone plays against me with them. It just means that I get more people to play magic with.

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>>54620363
Island, vial, pass
Enjoy T2

>>54630312
>white
>stony silence
your go.

>>54630411
>playing stony silence in tron
I bet you put chalice on 1 against fish too

>>54629363
That's a fallacious argument. Extra turns are a very specific effect, "stopping your opponent from doing things" can mean a million different things. Disruption has been consistently a part of every single set ever printed in the history of magic, undercosted extra turns have not.

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>thought it was some giant guy wearing a helmet
>turns out he is actually a locust

oh..

>>54629716
Because now you're "that dude with the fakes" and everyone, especially the store owner, are going to be extra critical of every card you own and try to trade or sell.

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>thought he was named something cool
>turns out he is just named 'the scorpion god'

oh..

>>54630530
I don't know what you expected

>>54630530
>every god has been "big human with animal head"
>this retard thinks one will just randomly not be that

>>54630556
Yeah maybe if you get caught over and over and over again like a retard, but once or twice and you're fine.

>>54630628
>once
maybe
>twice
no

>>54628818
So my wife was buying some common cards for tree fiddy and I saw some lava spikes and such in the bunch so I thought I would go around and make a burn deck. Was buying cards at local shop and found someone selling bolts, but there was something odd about the seller and then he told me he wanted tree fiddy a pop and that's when I realized THAT IT WAS THAT DAMN LOCH NESS MONSTER AGAIN. MY WIFE GOT HOSED BY TIMMY MONSTER AGAIN GODDAMMIT.

>>54625026
>Idiots like you think it's nice and cozy seeing all combo decks run loose, because you all you get is a fucking cancer, I mean cancel for counterspell, because fuck good cards am I rite.

>>54630628
You seriously think when you're known to own fakes and trying to get someone to trade potentially hundreds of dollars worth of cards to you they aren't going to be incredibly critical of every single card you own?

>>54630716
Duress exists retard. We don't need vintage level cards like thoughtseize in the format.

>>54630670
>once
You already lost all credibility.
>twice
Now you are just regular old asshole

(I don't care about fakes)

>>54630726
>thoughtseize
>vintage level

holy shit it is fucking happening

how long until we reach "path is a legacy level card"

>>54630726
Duress IS a vintage level card you fucking dimwit.

>>54630722
who the fuck said anything about trading? Yeah no shit if you try and sell or trade fakes people won't trust you, but we were talking about play.

>>54629045

>It's just too good because it breaks the design of the game.

No it doesn't. Thoughtseize is a 1 for 1 card. It's no different to any other 1 for 1 card like removal or counterspells of sorts.

>>54630726

Spotted someone who doesn't play Vintage. You don't know jack shit.

Duress is the way better card in Vintage than Thoughtseize.

>>54621448
Why are you not playing with Eclipses yet Anon? Do you hate orgasmic shuffle feel and the high durability of the BEST SLEEVES ON THE MARKET

>>54630802
>Thoughtseize is a 1 for 1 card
Yes I'm sure that combo deck that just lost its win condition has only been 1 for 1'd.

>>54630790
If you own or associate yourself with fakes your known as the guy with fake cards. Fucking troll.

>>54630790
>who said anything about trading?
>>54630556
>extra critical of every card you own and try to trade or sell

I did, in the post you responded to you fucking nigger lip troglodyte

>>54630756
>path
>legacy

Good joke man, path is a vintage level card.

>>54630756
>path is a legacy level card
Nic fit says hello :^)

>>54630900
So some guy's playing with an expensive card and someone says "hey that's fake" and they go "oh shit I just got it off some guy/got it from a friend" and you sperg out and say they will never have credibility again? You're the reason mtg has an autistic public image.

>>54630898
Yes, they did. You spent 1 card to get rid of 1 card, that is the very definition of 1 for 1.

>>54630756

Path does see some play though in Legacy and Vintage just because some decks don't run basics.

>>54630530
>The Locust God
>just a dude with a silver knight-looking helmet

Would have made for an interesting twist atleast.

>>54630898

That's the whole point of a 1 for 1 card you dimwit. If i spend 1 card to get rid of 1 of their cards that's a fucking 1 for 1.

>>54630951
No, you say "hey that's a fake", then their opponent calls a judge, stops the game, and now there's attention on what's going on. If the cards are fake everyone knows you've got fake cards now and no one will want to buy or trade from you.

>>54630951
If I know some guy has been caught with fakes before why would I risk ever using some of my items with known value to acquire his? Not even assuming malice on his part, he clearly doesn't know how to tell the difference and has gotten cards that are fake from someone else in the past, so realistically who knows how many of his things are fake and he doesn't realize.

What is the best youtube channel for MTG content? and why is it TCGplayer

>>54630985
>I'll just completely leave out the plea of ignorance

"look people won't trust you anymore"

Wow dude, you sure got me! I guess pleading ignorance won't gain you back any credibility if you don't actually do it. How could I have been so blind?

>>54631041
So anyone who has ever been duped once in the entirety of their participation in the hobby has exactly 0 credibility in your eyes now and forever?

>>54631059
holy fuck we know you're mad because you bought a bunch of really shitty fakes but you're just embarrasing yourself at this point so shut the fuck up please

>>54631084
Neat, my favorite part of this post is the part that isn't ad hominem.

>>54630848
>>54630761
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty that was the joke.

>>54631083
I wasn't the person who said that, but I WOULD be highly critical of any cars they tried to trade me and would refrain from making expensive trades with them, yes.

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>>54631056
I like the Professor for some reason.

>>54631113
I don't doubt a nanosecond on people's shits in here. Most, if not all, /tg/ players are just plain bad.

>>54631083
Someone going around having fakes and trading cards? Fuck that guy, not gonna deal with him, because there is ton of legitimate people out there not dealing with fakes.

>>54631059
You seem to think that just saying "woops my bad guys, totally didn't know ;9" will just make everything okay. It literally doesn't matter if anyone even believes you. They know you had fakes and couldn't tell when you did, why wouldn't they be critical of every other card you try to use for a trade?

>>54631117
Regardless of their experience with the game? Completely context-less you base all future interaction with that person off of a single instance of them playing with a fake card then expressing regret? Sounds pretty dumb. Look I'm not denying that if a guy does it over and over and over again then sure, but once?

>>54631177
Read the rest of the conversation we're talking specifically about someone playing with (not trading) fakes, getting caught and pleading ignorance.

>>54631186
Yes. Even once. Why would I trade with some guy who I knew had fakes, when I can trade with the dozens of guys who don't?

>>54631205
The core of the discussion is how the realization that at least some of yoir cards are fake affect your reputation in a community.

>>54631179
There's so much more context that goes into it than that. Is it a guy who's been around the store forever and obviously has the experience to tell fakes? If so, then sure, maybe he'll lose credibility. Was he just playing with them and not trying to trade? If so then why even call judge in the first place? And if he pleads ignorance you're just going to alienate any interaction with him?

Beside all of this you guys seem to keep saying that anyone worth a shit in the hobby can spot a fake, then you say that you're afraid of fakes.

Are BW tokens good this format?

>>54631056
magicmansam's video essays are pretty enjoyable

>>54631205
Are you as dense as a fucking brick? Your stupid conversation can be put in the title:
"Look at this dum fuck not realizing his credibility is not his to choose"

>>54631231
If that's the core then would you deny that most people give others the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise through repeated experience?

>>54631056
modernman

>>54631289
And yours is
"Look at this autist who thinks everyone's opinion is formed on a single interaction regardless of context and will never change or be affected by anything no matter what ever"

But I guess I'm asking a lot from someone like you when we're talking about social interaction.

>>54631056
My youtube channel is the best because it's like Saffron Olive's only the annoying voice is a result of me being a filthy alcoholic.
Rudy's videos are pretty good too.

>>54631259
It has nothing to do with being able to spot fakes. You have fakes, why would I want to trade with you, when I can just go elsewhere who probably doesn't have fakes? What is so hard to understand?

>>54631259
You call a judge because if the cards are fake they are given a game loss and required to replace them with authentic copies or basic lands or else be DQ'd. I also never said I would cut off all interactions with the person, I don't give a shit if someone is playing with fakes, but I absolutely will not trade with them, it's a waste of my time to when I can trade with anyone else that doesn't have fakes.

And this is seriously just beating around the bush, if you're the kind of person to buy fakes and then falsely plead ignorance to save face you're the kind of faggot no one likes anyway.

>>54631328
Magic aids isn't bad. I like that he cuts out all the "uuuh"s and "ummmms" during turns and just gets straight to plays.

Example:
https://youtu.be/A0iuv2STWTg

>>54631326
I know a guy who stole from my friend? Why the fuck should I have anything to do with thieves?

I know a guy that loaned me 20 bucks and didn't pay me back, you think anyone I told that will loan him after that?

I know you have fakes, why the fuck would I trade with you?

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Should I get Promo Cryptics or regular ones?

They cost almost the same on mkm. Are they that common or do people not like them?

>>54631298
Let's say yes, everyone believes him, he takes them to the guy who traded him the card and that guy is thrown in card jail foe his crimes. The dude still has fakes. Why would I trade with someone that has fakes when I could not do that?

>>54631205
>>54631231
I've played at my store for about 10 years. About 2 years ago I bought an immense amount of fakes: enough to build the entire Vintage and Legacy metagame.

Legacy and Vintage are not a thing locally. I said, if anybody wanted to play some Vintage or Legacy even if they just printed out some cards on regular paper I would be down for it. Cleared it with the store owner; he is good for anything that puts people in the store playing Magic and showing the general public that there is something of interest going on. Everyone knows I own fakes.

I always gave away cards I didn't need to people. I always owned the best (and real) cards in Standard and Modern. I never ever purposely fucked over anybody in all the years everyone has known me.

My reputation is 100% unblemished by owning fakes. Because I was always fucking good for everything. Some random person would not get the same treatment like me but the point here is that owning fakes are only going to stick negatively to people who were shitty people from the get-go with no redeeming qualities. In spite of my treatment and personal experience there are plenty of dipshits I already don't trust that I would only continue to not trust if it was known they owned fakes.

Be a good fucking person and any malicious sentiment thrown your way won't fucking matter because your history of goodness will back you up. There is no betrayal of trust like some priest fucking a child; anybody with a brain will realize fakes exist to facilitate the playing of Magic, especially Eternal, something Wizards doesn't seem to give a fuck about.

>>54628079

What's the actual difference between soul sisters and martyr proc? Martyr-proc decks seem to drop ajani pridemates/sisters for bunch of controlling cards.

>>54631340
You could say the same thing about literally anyone, but you're assuming these dozens of people are just lining up to make the same exact trade as this hypothetical person. The point is that most people don't categorize credibility off of a single (perceived) mistake and let it dictate all future interactions.

It'd be the equivalent of never shopping at a grocery store again because one of the checkers accidentally scanned your bread twice, apologized and gave you a refund.

>>54631113

Can't take that risk. Too many bad players. Stupidity must be cut off at the source lest it keep spreading.

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>All this fight over Chinaman fakes
Can we go back to discussing a children's card game?

>>54631411
This is brain death.

>>54631411
That is literally not the same thing that happened at all.

The worry with the scenario I posed is that the person might not know and unwittingly trade you a fake. You went to your lgs and said "I have fakes who wants to play with them?" The two situations are not comparable.

>>54631434

Soul Sisters is an aggro deck. Martyr-proc is a mono white control deck. It's the fucking unicorn of MTG decks in the Modern format.

>>54631365
again you're completely ignoring the plea of innocence. A more apt comparison would be:

"I loaned a guy $20 and he didn't pay me back and when I called him out he said: "oh shit, sorry, I thought I payed you back and then gave me $20"

Now at this point you can speculate that he intended never to pay you back and only gave you the $20 because he got caught, but unless this has happened more than once it's going to come off as pretty paranoid to do so.

The same applies to playing with fakes. You call the guy out on it, he apologize says he didn't know and pulls them from his deck. At that point are you going to assume that he 100% with malicious intent was trying to bullshit everyone there? 'Cause that's pretty autistic.

>>54631411
>owning fakes are only going to stick negatively to people who were shitty people from the get-go with no redeeming qualities.

You mean the kind of people who would buy fakes on purpose, take them to their lgs to play, and then feign ignorance to save face? Because that is exactly what the people I was arguing against were suggesting people do.

>>54631411
Good for you, but your anecdote doesn't help what I was trying to say. My point is that going to extreme dissosiative lengths with a person because they got caught with fakes once, apologized, and removed them is pretty paranoid.

>>54631371
Pretty sure people do not like them, a textless cryptic seems like a bad idea.

>>54631446
Yes. Yes it does.

If only thing I know about the guy is that he has the fakes, it's a single perceived truth I know about the guy and hence I won't trade him.

>It'd be the equivalent of never shopping at a grocery store again because one of the checkers accidentally scanned your bread twice, apologized and gave you a refund.
No, it's not. I know my bread is real, cleric just had a mistake by scanning it twice, which I get receipt for to check the facts. Beside the bread costs me a buck, whereas if I was buying a card from an asshole trading fakes, I could potentially lose hundreds of times more and more than likely never get my money back. How the fuck is this even remotely equivalent?

>>54631534
I'm not going to loan anyone who conveniently forgets to pay their debts. It doesn't matter if it was intended or not, but apparently you are just a naive guy who is ok for people going around fucking everything they do.

He doesn't know he plays with fakes? Oops, maybe he has fakes in the binder as well. I'm not going to go through his trade binder with loopie loops to make sure he got no more, because apparently people are assholes here that plead innocence on getting caught and he's probably one of those.

>>54620363
>Not Mine to Map, go

>>54631602
You're not applying the full context. What you know is that: The guy had fakes, didn't know it, was directed otherwise and got rid of them.

Also you need me to explain my analogy:

The price of the bread represents the fake card not the bread itself. The point is that the store gave you a reason to doubt the credibility of what their honesty in charging you fairly. You Questioned their honesty and they admitted fault, and rectified the situation, but you claim that because of this you will never trust them again and won't be doing business with them ever.

>>54631453
>>54631177
Considering how the whole "vintage level" thing came from shitposting and the comparison between two cards seems to strongly suggest it's joking.

>>54631371
Get them. They are cool.

>>54631674
>conveniently forgets
You're already qualifying the interaction with judgement. You're assuming the most malicious intent based on a single interaction.

Man I hope no one ever makes a mistake around you. You'll immediately categorize them as an asshole if they don't conduct themselves with perfect social grace 100% of the time they spend with you.

>>54631371
Playing textless Cryptics is a faux-pas. A modal spell with zero text on the card is just a dipshit thing to do of the highest order, even if the point is to show off. You're just inconveniencing everyone involved when you have to look up what it does (such as the order of the effects resolving) so it's better to not do it.

>>54631754
You seem to think what I and that other guy are saying is that when fakes are discovered the guy is immediately shoved into the leper colony with the guys who can't bathe right and the screeching children who bring their mono green shitbrews to modern tournaments. All I am saying is that I would avoid trading with the guy unless I had some foolproof way of assessing for fakes beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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>>54620363
Land, chalice on 0 turn

>>54631754
A fool who knows what he's doing is less dangerous than a fool who has no idea what he's doing.

I see people making mistakes all the time. People see me making mistakes all the time. If I crash someone's car, he's not lending me his car anytime soon. Would you? I bet you would, because it was just an accident and I was sorry so it's all good and great and we are the happiest friends ever.

>>54631691
Because your context was all around the place and your analog was not even close to same.

I buy a fake card =/= I buy a real thing (bread)
Store has credibility, not the workers it has in it.
Store gives me proof of transaction to back up credibility =/= WotC recording player's innocence on playing with fakes
I questioned _cleric's_ innocence, as I would do any player who is playing with fakes
If I knew beforehand a store is selling bread that has chinese hair in it, I wouldn't buy it. I would never buy anything from there.

>>54631850
>I had some foolproof way of assessing for fakes beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Do you not own a loupe?

>>54631902
Yeah, I wear loupe as a fashion piece.

>>54631902
Not one I am going to carry with me to every event I attend at my lgs

>>54631850
No that's not "all you were saying" it was said very early that they'd be known as "that dude with the fakes" by everyone and that everyone would be hyper-critical of that person.

>>54630900
>>54630722
>>54630556

It was cute to watch you try and walk that back without anyone noticing though.

>>54631966
Only two of the posts you linked were me, shitlips. And what the fuck do you think "hyper critical" means? We're going to very closely scrutinize their fashion choices?

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>>54631966

>>54631946
>Not one I am going to carry with me to every event I attend at my lgs
Why? It's not like they're big or expensive, most can just fit in a pocket or even your deck box/whatever you have your shit in. Good way to keep from getting jewed when doing expensive trades or to call out chinafaggots.

>>54632002
The fuck are you getting your definitions?
Even if you were only two of them every one of them goes against what you said, but by all means keep digging that hole, my dude.

>>54632046
This game is so fucking fucked when cards are so expensive that you have to go around loupie louping pieces of paper to not get potentially hosed a hundred dollars. What a fucking trash game.

>>54632062
Don't blame the game. Blame the china fakes.

>>54632023
>>54631850
>You seem to think what I AND THE OTHER GUY are saying is that when fakes are discovered the guy is immediately shoved into the leper colony...

Even if we take the other guy out you're still contradicting yourself. Just twice instead of 3 or more times. Good job dude, you sure got me.

>>54632090
No, we blame fucking Wizards for refusing to regulate a marketplace that allows counterfeits to be profitable to make.

If cards were worth significantly less, there wouldn't be a need to bother with counterfeits now would there? Sometimes, the best way to deal with immoral behavior is to not attack the perpetrators but other factors instead.

This is 100% on Wizards.

>>54632062
Game is great... sometimes poorly designed; Wizards just doesn't care about the psychological comfort of its players so now we're all running around with pocket magnifying glasses.

>>54632090
I blame idiots allowing this game to degenerate into "let's all spent too much money on practically nothing, because lol collectibles" mentality.

>>54632054
The dictionary? Have you seriously devolved into trying to argue semantics? I'll just take this as a win, since you've clearly nothing left to actually argue with.

>>54632090
Here's a (you)

>>54632105
You are only one confusing yourself here.

>>54632154
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hypercritical

Good job, judging someone's character and every interaction you will ever have with them off of one situation is definitely not being "excessively or meticulously critical"

>s-semantics

You obviously don't know what this word means if you think that me pointing out a direct contradiction with what you said earlier is semantics. Keep digging you might find oil to make my dick in your ass a little more comfortable.

>>54632105
What is this supposed contradiction? I said if you are known to have fakes then people are going to be extra critical when you try to trade with them

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Would this deck be better -lavaman and +1 more claim to fame?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rakdos-burn-new-from-hou/

>>54632228
what is this gif from

>>54632208
Since you're so intent on arguing semantics because you have no other leg to stand on, I never once used the word hypercritical.

>>54632208
I have to only press f5 to prove you are a true fashioned /tg/ garbage.

We got ebin troled.

>>54632241
That shitty Noah movie that released a few years back

>>54632241
It's the Noah movie.

>>54632208
I find it ironic that a person like you throws around the word autism as an insult.

>>54632258
>>54632259
wait like Noah's Ark?

>>54632327
Yes

>>54632227
You were saying: "All I am saying is that I would avoid trading with the guy"

which is a far cry from saying that a person would be known throughout the store as "as the guy with fake cards"
>>54630900

Not to mention you claimed that whoever you were agreeing with was arguing something similarly non-abrasive after he said that having fakes causes people to be:
"incredibly critical of every single card you own"

oh and this
>>54630556

So you're saying that the statement: "All I'm saying is that I would avoid trading..." is no different than asserting that his reputation would be irreparably marred at the lgs?

>>54632228
>Tron player casts Pyroclasm

>>54631277
Nah. Too slow. You can do okay generally, but you're a free win for Tron.
Check out the BW smallpox lists that are tier 2. They're a bit of a joke, but they match decent against most Tier 1 decks other than Eldrazi Tron and Affinity (so one decent match against the three most popular decks)

They're basically a BW tokens list that uses different planeswalkers and less Spectral Procession. It's okay.

>>54632228
I think 3 is a decent amount anon, but it really depends on your meta. In a vacuum, I think the deck is pretty good.

>>54631894
You're misapplying the situation again if you want to use the crash the car analogy then you have to carry it to its applicable end, which would mean you buying me another car after apologizing profusely.

>>54632358
Only that second post was me, you faggarelli. Since we're on semantics like that fucking autist up there wanted: I didn't say irreparably, and yes having fakes would make you known as "that guy who had fakes" whether that reputation is forgotten over time is largely irrelevant to this discussion.

>>54632377
I always thought of it as
>affinity player casts whipflare

>>54632426
Second post = third you quoted, for clarity

>>54632416
I'm not missapplying anything. It wasn't analog to fake cards, it was pointing out the fallacy of not having prejudice upon actions.

>>54632252
>>54632002
whoops
you're right you just fumbled with a retarded definition because you thought it was a reference to fashion

>>54632258
>>54632259
I don't remember that scene? I can tell that those giants are the angles that fell to earth, but I don't remember any fire swords.

>>54632457
And I was pointing out the fallacy of not applying prejudice to actions consistently. You seem to think that when someone expresses regret over a situation and rectifies it, that it has no bearing on that person's action in the first place. You're saying that whether they apologize replace the car or not it's all the same because they made the mistake in the first place.

>>54632458
>he even blew my pedantic as fuck semantics argument out of the water, let me just play it off by taking a joke he made and turning it on him

>>54632474
It was a flashback scene that only lasted for as long as the gif and the entire rest of the movie was pretty bad so I'm not surprised.

>>54632490
No, you are the only one who thinks that I think that way. Even if someone apologizes or is sorry about driving over my grandma doesn't change the fact that my grandma is driven over.

>>54632426
Yep and in this >>54631850 You're defending all of the other posts when you say "what I and that other guy are saying is..."

And saying that this person would be known as "that guy who had fakes" implies a lot more people than just you. You're talking about the community.

>>54632549
How many times are you going to ignore the rectification part of the argument? This is getting old. We're talking about a situation that can be rectified not something with permanence like death.

In the scenario of the cards you are wronged because the person was playing with cards they did not own, they apologize, justify their mistake, and rectify the situation by not using those cards and, because we're only talking about a first offence, presumably never does it again. And you're saying that would carry the same weight on their reputation as consistent use of fakes.

>>54632560
I only included the other guy to make it clear to you that there WAS another guy. I literally didn't even pay attention to the side conversations you had with him. If he's the one saying all of the shit you are trying to pin on me take it up with him.

Yes it does imply a lot more people know about it, because they would know about it. And if your buddy tells you that some rando you've maybe talked to a handful of times at the lgs was caught with fakes would you say "Now hold on there, friend. I think you're being overly critical of his actions." or would you be like "aw shit I'll have to be cautious if he tries to trade me then"? Word of mouth is how reputation is built.

>>54632499
The fuck are you even talking about? We didn't bring in semantics until you started bitching about it. Then you claimed that you never used the word "hypercritical" and I linked you a post with you using and attempting to (re?)define it.

Holy fucking autism.

>>54632228
I've been toying with the idea of Claim//Fame in Death's Shadow decks but Vexing Devil burn is kind of interesting.
Lavaman is definitely in, 3 Claim//Fame is already pushing it. Sideboard looks like utter garbage though, holy shit. It looks like a concept sideboard built out of "cool cards", not a realistic and functional one.

>>54632607
How many times I have to go over. You have no argument here. If someone is getting caught having fakes, there will be people, LIKE ME FOR EXAMPLE, who will not trade with a person like that. Maybe he can get credibility back, but more than likely not. This is not hard to understand and you are the only one making some ridiculous analogs and making what I'm saying more complicated than it is on purpose just for the kick of it.

Your scenario is idiotic again. I just proved you in a very simplified situation that there is always a cause to an action and someone will always have a prejudice on you. It doesn't matter if they apologize for it, but of course you can't fucking see it, stupid as you are.

>>54632619
Why would you say something like "what me and the other guy are saying is" if you had no idea what he was saying?

And if you're saying that it has implications beyond yourself then you ARE saying it will have a larger effect than you alone being more cautious.

The anecdote doesn't mean much because of course I'm not going to say that. My first response would be "oh shit how'd that happened?" because I recognize that some people get scammed when buying cards. If my friend then said "yeah he was pretty pissed cause he said he spent quite a bit buying them off some guy" (that's the part where he pleads ignorance by the way). Then my initial reaction would be, damn sucks that he got scammed.

Now if it happened again next week I might start to question "wow caught again with fakes? Either this guy sucks at telling them apart or he's a bullshitter", but we're not talking about repeat offenses we're talking about a person pleading ignorance when they're caught for the first time.

>>54632667
Yeah, the guy who made it apparently changed out the sideboard pretty quick, but I think he did it in an entirely new deck instead of just editing that one. Probably cause he had the original linked to his YT

>>54632693
I'm making the situation more complicated because situations don't occur in a vacuum. You seem to think that people using fakes are like swiper from dora the explorer and will just throw up their hands and say "ya got me" once someone calls them out on it. If a person who has no past of using fakes uses them and then claims ignorance when they get caught do you really think it's reasonable to say that there is no chance of he himself being duped by a guy selling fakes?

>>54632784
Yada yada something besides the point again yada yada.

You are the only one making up what I think. I'm not even going to spell what I have written out 5 times to you anymore, but will just reply, because it's apparent that both of us get kicks out of (you)s.

>>54632838
>I'll just pretend I can refute it

>>54632866
>You'll just pretend you had an argument to begin with

>>54632630
I never used the word hypercritical. And I never mentioned semantics until you started arguing with me about the definition of a word.

>>54632885
>>54632002
>I never used the word hypercritical

>>54632875
>I'll just stick my head in this hole I dug and say I won. No arguments out here, everyone agrees with me and I'm safe.

>>54632709
To illustrate that there was more than just me. I'd picked up enough through glances that he had vaguely the same opinion as I did and so I just threw him in, if I was wrong then I was wrong.

That's a fairly reasonable reaction to it, but would you not still be cautious and critical of his cards if later that very day the guy came up asking you to trade?

This is the type of autism I still come to this site for.

>>54632950
>links to the post where I quoted what the other person said, unaware they were going to use that quotation to entrap me in a semantic argument

>>54632950
Ohhhh, I see. You are one of those people that can't read an intended text unless it's written without a single error. Of course you can't, because you are dimwit.

>>54632976
I don't need anyone to agree with me. You were the one making up my argument and trying to win over argument you created yourself. You are just devolving rhetorical stage of kindergarden now.

>>54633008
I know the thread is kinda shit right now but it's not a reason to bait into further meta discussion.

>>54633008
I know right. /tg/ is so shit, that there is literally nothing else to discuss than throwing tandrums over the stupidest things human mind can imagine.

>>54633047
This thread is a dumpster fire because some autists are upset that people will think negatively of them for using fskes

>>54633085
Hold on a second. You are trying to tell me Modern general wasn't always a dumpster? When was the last time there was any sensible convo here or valuable information to anyone needing it? I only remember someone calling collected company good and even then most of the /tg/ players were saying it's shit card.

Am I fucked if I don't have skullclamp for my locust god commander deck

>>54632999
In the same day without him having the chance to go home and check his cards? I'd probably ask if he got them from the same guy, and yeah maybe, but "in the same day" is context that wasn't part of the original discussion.

>>54627909
Do it, you can always play them in edh.

>>54620363

>Hallowed Fountain
>Sleight of Hand
>Lotus Bloom
>Lotus Bloom

go :^)

>>54633044
>I don't need anyone to agree with me

Is that why you had to qualify your last two statements with "you're the only one" ? Really activates the almonds.

>>54633085
>I have no reading comprehension skills: the post

>>54633148
>modern general

>>54633151
I meant same day as in the same day as you learning about the fakes, it can be any arbitrary amount of time adter they were discovered.

And my question is more for illustrative purposes than something concrete. Since I maintain that even with the reasonable response of assuming innocence there would still be a doubt that maybe he would make the mistake again.

>>54633148
Yes

>>54633216
>I have autism, please be understanding: the post

Go back to arguing over whether or not your friends down at the club won't like you anymore if you use fake cards.

>>54633200
Because the last 4 or 5 posts have been you making up what I'm saying? I suppose it does activate your almonds, because I never have seen anyone talking complete posts in imagined quotations.

>>54633226
Different day? No not really so long as I had the full story.

>>54633298
The fuck would you say "you're the only one" in a conversation with two people? But that's beside the point what did I "make up" please I'm dying to hear what you have for this one.

>>54633408
Because it's not really a conversations if you are making up what I say, is it now cunt?

>>54633430
Not going to answer then?

>>54633473
Of course not. I'm not going through history about who has said and what, because I have no intention to write messages that take more time than 10 seconds to get (you)s just like you are doing. Besides, you are acting like a faggot, so I will just keep calling you a faggot and I can go all day until I get bored grinding this other stupid game.

I just got some great deals for my Eldrazi Tron. I'm thinking of building 2 cheaper Decks (so I can play with friends that don't own Modern Decks). I'm thinking of something like Merfolks and Burn, but not really sure. Which Decks would you guys recommend?

>>54633559
Buying into legacy really. Burn if you want to win consistently. Gameplay is practically just as boring in all 3 you mentioned.

>>54633529
calling me a faggot represents about as much argumentative finesse as any of your previous posts so I'm not seeing much of a difference.

>>54633596
You chose the level in your very first post, so I think we are complete even. Didn't think you would have a quarrel with the level of argumentation used in here. It's just the act of being a cunt that's gets you called a cunt and autist as was in earlier posts by people besides me.

>>54633580
There are like 2 Legacy tournaments in my country per year

>>54633633
Darn. Then I think your best bet is to try make burn as cheaply as possible and try to get a group to play casual legacy tournaments with proxies.

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With WotC posting 5 daily varied 5-0 decks to hide the true metagame, is it time for a couple unbans?

>>54633652
Hmm in your opinion, which Modern Deck(s) you consider "not boring" (preferable if is it less or equal than ETron's price)?

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>>54620363
>Spire of Industry
>Chromatic Star

Your move

>>54633559

Build Merfolk, it's a better deck and can deal with most matchups that aren't blazing fast(e.g Elves). Burn is in a horrible position right now.

>>54633686
Unban Mind Sculptor already

>>54633632
>no you
wow you sure showed me

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>>54633702
EGGBROS WHERE THE FUCK @ WE AT

>>54620083
>Playing
Titanshift (T1 Stomping Ground/Forest, suspend Search for Tomorrow), Esper Goryo's (T1 Flats/Strand/Delta, cantrip/discard/hold up removal)
>Hating
every tournament has at least one saltlord. it's a game, people. Also hating the fact that the most expensive cards in my decks aren't Modern staples.

Missing PPTQs left and right and it makes me sad. at least the FNMs in my area are relatively competitive

>>54633687
The problem with modern is, that most of the decks play practically the same. You are either some sort of hyperaggro with creatures hittings as fast as possible or some sort of midrange with creatures hitting few turns later hoping to kill the second hyperaggro runs out of gas. Or a deck like tron who just does his stupid things like cycling or finding the pieces he needs to slam down one creature big enough hoping to kill the opponent.

Mill was kind of fun deck, it's just garbage tho. Control would be otherwise nice, but it's just sitting with cards you hope will hit opponents creatures and maybe some day play a creature hoping it will kill opponent. Damn, I might have to say that get Junk or Hatebears or other meta shifting deck to play the guess the FNM meta game.

>>54633766
Did I? I thought we will be throwing tandrums a little while longer.

>>54633791
>he doesn't know about the flavorful variety of combo decks
This. This is why people hate modern. They don't know about fun.

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>>54633805

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I feel so conflicted. I'm playing Bant Eldrazi and I'm totally happy with my maindeck except for 1 card - Dismember. I feel like 5 pieces of targeted removal is correct, but it just feels so bad to play. I know this deck got left in the dust by almost everyone in favor of the tron variant, but if anyone is still on it, do you have any interesting choices that could be considered for that slot?

>>54633809
Because combo decks are even more boring than other archetypes. You just assemble the combo, in best cases involving a creature, and hope it wins.

And Tron is combo goddammit!

>>54633834
>Ba-dum-tsh

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>>54633834
that's just ridiculous

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>>54633809
>>54633860

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>>54633860
>tron is combo
>lol I play 3 lands
>play a fatty
>combo

Hello Modern General.

I made a Manabarbs meme bounce deck and im wonder what you crazy niggas would do to make it better.

Here is the decklist as is;
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/manabarbs-meme/

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>>54633903
>deck is about assembling 3 specific cards to cheat mana and play fatties
>entire rest of the deck is tuned to get those 3 cards in your hand as fast as possible
>this somehow is not combo

>>54633845

Personally, I'm just running the playset of Path and 2 Engineered Explosives. Seem to be fine, though I run a blessed alliance in the side.

>>54633900
>>54633903
spongmind

>>54633900
dumb phoneposter

>>54620363

>forest
>arbor elf

Pass the turn

>>54633940
Tron is control retard. Early game you're trying to find specific cards (similar to control cantripping) and then use those cards to control the board and outvalue your opponent. Is multiple color control combo too because it has to assemble lands to cast some of it's spells?

>>54633940
3 cards are working exactly as intended, not sure if it's really cheating. Mana ramp is probably more specific to what they do.
Third of the deck is about assembling the lands, rest are thirds of lands and spells that remove what opponent has on board.

So it's not combo, but mana ramp deck.

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>>54633946
if 5 combo is the best deck ever

>>54633942
>>54633845
EE is a decent hedge (though pricy as fuck). In 3 colour decks it's a solid catch-all 1of that can be hit off Stirrings.
If you want 5 pieces go for that. if you already run EE or the price is a hige turnoff and want the 5th, maindeck blessed is underrated and would be sweet, even the last mode is relevant

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>>54634006
it is if you want it to be friend

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>>54633903

The entire structure of a Tron deck is built like a combo deck. Cantrips and/or tutors dedicated to finding its pieces and assembling them to cast a big spell to win. Oh sure you may not be dead yet but that Ugin on the field may as well mean you've already lost.

I mean it's like Big Spell Combo/Combo-control on this wheel anyway.

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>>54634050
>lava spike
>in combo
>>54634045
Well magic conch is lava spike a combo deck?

>>54634090
rerolling for u my dude this conch is rude

>>54633942
>>54634008
Yeah, I'm running 4 path, the 1 dismember, and 2 EE all main. Blessed Alliance might be something to consider - All the modes seem solid for our deck, although the specificity of the sac-on-attack mode feels like a blessing and a curse depending on the situation.

>>54633979
>tron is control

oh for fuck sake we're back on this meme again?

>>54634090
>>lava spike
>>in combo
Thinking about burn as "I combo 7 lightning bolts to kill you" has applications in fighting the strategy (ie, ignore traditional tempo and card advantage, stop the combo with lifegain or Leyline) so I think it fits.

>>54634050
The only thing I don't agree with here is the positions of draw-go and tap-out control. Either could be argued to be more reactive than the other - draw-go casts card draw spells at EoT to advance its game plan, but tap-out is more likely to use big creatures or 'walkers, which can be win conditions after they stabilize the board. However, considering that aggro-control is right on the other side in midrange, and draw-go is closer to aggro-control than tap-out (heavier use of counterspells to gain tempo) I think they should be switched.

>>54634045
Magic Conch, is Tron a ramp deck?

>>54634090

Lava spike decks are loosely fringe combo decks anon. They generally don't want to interact with you at all and just fling all their spells at your face. It's like if aggro and Storm had a baby.

>>54634229
>my infograph says so
>here's some shitty rationalization

>>54634226
The issue is that ramp isn't a "deck type" it's a method some decks use to achieve their gameplans. Tron's gameplan is to shove fatties down your throat until you choke on their cum.

>>54634244

Good rebuttal anon, stay bad at MTG

>>54634262
Ramp decks use mana acceleration to power out game winning spells. On the infographic they are big spell combo, or occasionally combo control (ie old school scapeshift).

>>54634220

The reason why Tap-out control is there is because the decks that play like this are like a half and half between Draw-go and Aggro-control. Think like the old 5 colour Cruel Control decks where as draw-go is kinda more reminscent like the old Psychatog decks. Bear in mind large number of decks do have overlapping archetypes but the archetypes they do overlap are always close neighbours.

>>54634439
eTron, maybe, but old school gTron is so reliant on fast mana to cast anything meaningful that attacking their manabase like you would a combo is more effective than trying to go over or under them.

>>54634439

>Tron
>non-blue control

But what about U Tron?

Checkmate Zoroastrianists.

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>This whole thread is basically chinaman fakes bants

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>>54625514
Why is Emrakul the best magicfu?

>>54626392
Just started modern with a expensive deck I don't want ruined. Am I under the impression that fakers double sleeve their cards?

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>sleeves getting a bit rusty on my modern deck
>decide to completely resleeve
>trying to use KMC inners with dragonshield sleeves

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>>54634764
This is a nice Eldrazi.

>>54634831
I just did that recently. My deck is like a puffy cushion, and is twice as big. Send help.

>>54634884
I usually flatten every card with a book and keep it a tight deckbox and it usually works

but fuck if I don't despise getting the inner sleeve card into the outer without it slipping

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>>54634831
>LGS was out of dragonshields, so I bought UP Eclipse instead
>actually good, and the deck is half the size

>double sleeve KMCs
>they split the second I start shuffling
>effectively waste $10 on sleeves and time sleeving

Never buying this product.

>>54634912
I've used Ecilpse before and I loved them

But I realizes they get dirty really really fast. Like after one tournament all the cards will have specs of shit all around the edges

>>54634826
People that use fakes tend to double sleeve to obscure the card using stuff like the smokey inner sleeves but not everyone who double sleeves is a chinafag. Honestly you should be double sleeving your shit with how much this game costs desu.

>>54634942
>Honestly you should be double sleeving your shit with how much this game costs desu.

This is why I do it. I feel like if you are playing with a decent deck around 500+ dollars you might as well. Plus I'm a stickler for card quality, I try to keep the cards as undamaged as possible.

>>54634908
I put the cards in an Ultra Pro binder, then put another binder on top for pressure. It seemed to help, but I need to flatten them more.
>but fuck if I don't despise getting the inner sleeve card into the outer without it slipping
That kills me too. It's the slight inconsistencies in each sleeve's size. I'll try one one perfect fit on a sleeve and it'll slip, but then I'll try another on the same sleeve and it works just fine.

>>54634942
>tfw using smokey inners

kek oh well. I got my shit online too. I've always been wondering if they were legit.

>>54635021
Buy a loupe senpai. They're cheap as hell and useful in this hobby and unless you bought from some sketchy ass dealer the cards are most likely real.

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>>54634834
I like her for the plot.

>>54634764
>Emrakul will never hold you down and Annihilate you and five other permanents.

why am I still here

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wb-littlepox/

So the store I work at hosts modern and I'd like to take part. As an employee I don't care too much if I'm winning terribly hard, and I prefer wacky combos as it is. I have a Grixis combo deck in the works, but smallpox is one of my favorite cards and I wanted to build a deck around it. Be gentle, I'm a little new to this. It's still a little schizophrenic because I brute-forced in that Liliana-Sorin-Emrakul combo.

>>54634936
I've noticed that too. Thankfully, they haven't torn and the edges aren't noticeable enough to be considered marked.

>>54635093
>I don't care too much if I'm winning
>I prefer wacky combo
>forces Emrakul into the deck

Have you considered the Dubious Challenge decks? With 8 fattties and 8 flickerwisps/etc., you've got a 59% chance it works. It may be more simple than you'd like, mind.

>>54635093
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wb-littlepox/
Been awhile since I've played WB smallpox but most lists I've seen look more like: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-wb-smallpox#paper


Mentor and Tombstalker are kind of slow for what this deck is trying to do and Dark withering and the Emmy seem extremely memey.
Personally I don't like mana tithe at all and would rather just run more PtE and another Gid AoZ or Sorin. The rack should only be played in dedicated rack decks as well.

>>54634964
>>54634942
Ehh I think you guys have a point to a degree, I only double sleeve +$15 cards. Like hell i'll let an aether vial get fucked up, but I'm less concerned about say, a mutavault

>>54635151

I considered some fatty variants, but I'll ultimately probably settle for Innistrad-Sorin, cut out some of the goof factor and focus on the cards I was really wanting to build around.
On that note, am I looking okay for nontoken creature representation? I feel like I could pull back on the tombstalkers a bit and find room for something else.

Do I take mono-white humans and splash green for CoCo?

I have two Heaths.

>>54635329
You have fastlands, shocks and Nobles too? If not then I wouldn't. That being said Humans is definitely a deck that benefits from CoCo and GWx humans lists are pretty good as far as tribal CoCo trash goes.

>>54635361
Gotchya.

Best to wait for a masters set to reprint Canopy anyway.

>>54635565
>>54635565
>>54635565

Head over when you feel like it.