Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

First for Redemptor is Redumpstor.

second for spikey bits

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third for kasrkins

>>54609503
>crying ancient of the chapter.jpg

he didn't ask to be put inside it

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>>54609481
Lets do this Xenos/Chaos bros!!

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>>54609519
6th for I want psy-automata and Sorcerer Dreadnought in 40k.

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>>54609503
Nth for Savlar

>>54609503
>>54609524
Wait, Redemptor is bad? Damn.
Still going to use mine though.

So, world eaters and emperor's children will be in the csm codex? Kind of disappointing, was hoping all 4 cult legions were going to get their own codex

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Alpha Legion

>>54609559
>chaos gets a .5 codex again but after the campaign they lost

>>54609559
They probably will anon, just be patient. They're updating DG first. And also re-updating TS, really hoping I get some more fun psychic abilities when that comes back.

>>54609528
>>54609481
Why are Xenos so retarded that they help Chaos?

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>realized white scars aggressors are really good
>can move and advance 8"-14" before dropping a huge bolter bomb or bathe something in flamers
>can fall back from chaff that survive their absurd overwatch and charge something else

>raven guard aggressors
>infiltrate 9" away, walk up into flamer range
>if anything charges you, 24D6 autohitting S4 shots

>>54609559
I hope Alpha Legion gets more shit, they got a book recently so fingers crossed for Raptor Primaris or something

Primaris Captains can only take a power sword.

Well fuck, there goes my idea to give him a deathwatch thunder hammer.

Man, I've been playing Guard and Nids too long. I went back to start putting together a Primaris list and I'm so utterly shocked at how few models I can get into it.

Hell, even standard marines. Tried throwing together a 1000 point/50 PL basic list using Shrike and you can barely fit stuff in it. Wild.

>>54609604
Because people don't want the global campaign result to be "and the Imperium defended itself without major consequence," as it always has before.

Not that it will turn out any different, given the current results.

I wanna kitbash a Chaplin dreadnought as theres second hand models pretty cheap near me, what kit has dual fists with flamers/stormbolters?

A few questions:
-How could I justify running some Custodes in a detachment alongside TSons?
-If I paint my TSons something other than blue/gold or red, how many asspained neckbeards are there going to be?
-What's the maximum number of Exalts I should take in my detachment at once?
-Should I run a Questor Traitoris? I love the way they look, but if it'd be bad for my army, I don't know if I could justify the pricetag.

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>>54609604
>Help Jobbers
>Help the faggots that get updates, and favoritism

>>54609628

Once the power fist model drops you can use that for a bit

>>54609604

Because Brits apply Brexit to everything.

>>54609635

Fun fact: the A in USA stands for Astartes.

So, it occured to me that Raven Guard infiltration is honestly a better option than deep striking for first turn charges now; you're better off sneaking in your assault units, then moving and assaulting, which may mean that Vanguards sans jetpacks might actually be worthwhile.

>>54609586
If it's anything like the first one I'd gladly loose a hundred campaigns to have something like that.

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>Building primarily Primaris army
>Aggressors are great anti-infantry
>Can't stand the fucking frag storm grenade launcher for some reason

Anyone got an idea for a good replacement for them?

>>54609637
The BlAngels Dreadnought.

>>54609635
That's dumb though. Every xenos race loses way more by Chaos winning than Imperium.

>>54609650
Oh, I see, they're so retarded they act purely out of spite. They deserve to lose in the end.

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>>54609604
>>54609368
Everyone i don't like is a cuck; the post.

>>54609454
I personally blame the Imperium-posters here.
>pic related

>>54609663
Stubbers off those AdMech robots maybe?

>>54609677

Chillax, it seems chaos-loving xeno players are mostly confined to UK.

There's no rules about how you paint models right?
So if I have guys painted as Guardians of the Covenant there's nothing to stop me saying they're actually Dark Angels for the purposes of the <CHAPTER> keyword right?

>>54609663
Speaking of Aggressors, how do Gravis shoulders compare to normal? Can normal shoulder pads be used for them?

>>54609599
There needs to be a discipline for each of the cults of Prospero as well as Tzeenth all with 6 powers each for a minimum of 36 unique psychic powers.

Also something needs to be done about Aspiring Sorcerers and Scarab Occult Sorcerers, they're more liabilities than assets with the current state of perils and they're useless gimp-smite.

>>54609663

Could you stand to put a pintle storm bolter on their shoulders? It's nearly the same thing

>>54609657

Infiltrate 10 man assault termies alongside 10 man reivers on turn one, get turn one charge off, watch blood fly, swoop in Stormraven on turn 2 and drop a dreadnought on whats left.

>>54609681
This all the imperium posters said that chaos would talk way to much shit if they won and would be annoying. Cue imperium guys with NPC talk and chaos tears memes. This is the future you chose imperium.

>>54609663
maybe the grenade launchers from the cataphractii/tartaros terminators?

>>54609709
I doubt it'll be that diverse. With any luck, we'll get one power for each of the cults. Maybe 6 to 12 uniques.

>>54609704
Unless they enforce WYSIWYG, then no, nothing is stopping you.
>Space marines are one of the only factions where painting scheme actually matters to WYSIWYG enforces.

>>54609623
Is that reaction picture your OC? You keep posting that everywhere

>>54609723
I would but I hate Assault Terminators so I'd probably use Vanguard Vets instead.

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>>54609636

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>>54609604
Legit because the Imperium are the ones winning.

As soon as Chaos starts winning, I'll fight them.

Goff Orks here, btw. Best Clan.

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Can someone explain to me why I would want to buy numarines?

The models are bland and monopose. Aesthetically they're a lifeless product. They really have the CAD look, and can't be customized.

And on the tabletop they put me to sleep. Intercessors are a space marine and a half, and get none of the special weapons that tacs get.

Agressors are firebats from starcraft and their only options is to spam S4 shots, or spam S4 shots.

Inceptors seem like fairly good options to spam plasma, but they also look like shit. Why do they have snow shoes? Why do their guns have cute little shields? Why do they have terran marine cowls?

Hellblasters are also boring as fuck. Great more plasma spam, with three different flavors.

Don't even get me started on Reivers.

An the best part is that to transport any of them you need to buy the new nonsensical autism box. They can't ride Mastodons, which are so big they can transport fucking dreadnoughts. And the new tank also looks like boring CAD shit. It's covered in missiles and has retarded weapon placement.

And the nuNaughts only options are a bunch of heavy bolter shots, or even more fucking plasma.

Exactly zero of the new infantry have options besides more bolter shots, or more plasma.

Someone please explain the hype.

>>54609745

Alternatively, infiltrate 5 Aggressors and laugh maniacally.

>>54609623
Three Aggressors put out an average of 54 bolter shots when standing still. Given the Punisher is good, and the difference is in one strength, I wonder if boltgressors won't actually be fairly nasty based on pure weight of fire.

>>@54609773
>monopose.


(You)

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>>54609733
And that's going to be bullshit, but hey that's GW for you.

I swear though I swear there must be someone on the design team that just really hates Thousand Sons, or am I just being paranoid?

>>54609704

Chapter tactics it doesn't matter at all

Doesn't matter for using Dark angels specifically rules

As of the FAQ you CANNOT take special characters and then just say they're stand ins for your successor chapters, although I'm sure any reasonable opponent will likely allow it anyway, I would.

>>54609777
I segregate my Primaris and my normies.

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>>54609773

>>54609773
There is no hype.

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>>54609773

>>54609773

I think they look cool and you spent 500 words stating a fairly shallow opinion

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>>54609724
I think spite is a valid reason for action; but I doubt it will matter in the grand scheme of things Anon. Imperium-posters do make out at LEAST 60% of the playerbase in this alliance as Imperium includes IG, Marine, Admech, Skitarii and the Deathwatch players. 3 of which are highely popular in them selves.

I'm not even sure what the Chaos faction offers players. Demon spam lists? 2-3 factions of CSM?

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What do you expect from a possible future Guard Codex ?

>>54609766
I saw it; I felt ashamed and regret.
Then I took action and cropped that shit out.
>>54609681
>I am by no means a perfect person, but I do try where I can.

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>>54609637
This.
>>54609673

Also skull face sarcophagus. Just needs BA stuff scraping off and greenstuff filling.

Here's the crozius for my SW chaplain dread. The crozius is the custodes shields and BA librarian dread polearm.

>>54609840
>Beep Boop time to unblock some drains

how many editions until vehicles become over costed trash and infantry rules?

>>54609824
Regiment bonuses.

Maybe some new orders? Orders are kinda like the equivalent of psychich powers in terms of use and power level.

Stratagems for tanks and artillery.

>>54609689
Got a picture a the one in particular you're talking about?
>>54609707
No idea, i know the mark x power armor is head and pauldron compatible
>>54609719
>>54609729
When i get some aggressors i can try to fiddle around with them, but to me the issue they just lack any real 'umph' to the look

>>54609832
>Then I took action and cropped that shit out.
I know, but I had to meme on your meme with another meme

>>54609852
NOW
O
W

>>54609781
54 bolters kills 15 orks, a marine squad, or strips 4 wounds off an average vehicle. Of course they're good when you can pull it off. They're going to be damage magnets for your opponent.

Ok guys, the CSM leaks have told us that there are 45 Datasheets in the Codex

There's about 70 in Heretics Astartes in the index

Obviously CSM will lose some of the cult shit like DG and Tsons exclusives, but Kharn and Zerkers are confirmed, so obviously the Elite Cult options for PMs, Rubrics, NMs, Zerks are still around
What Datasheets are we losing? My bet is on daemonic mounts, similar to why CSM lost bikes for most of their heroes

My GW guy flipped out yesterday when people were saying the campaign is over because of this week. I proceeded to win 2 games and show him my start collecting nids for points against imperium.
It's not over till GW says it's over

>>54609865
I understand. Have a (You), it's on me.

>>54609787
>As of the FAQ you CANNOT take special characters and then just say they're stand ins for your successor chapters
I know thats why I was asking if anything in the rules stopped me from using the DA keyword instead which would allow me to use Belial

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>>54609481
>time to play 40k
>oh yes, a classic! i shall put my guardsmen behind an aegis defense line.
>opponent arrives
>hello, today i am playing Imperial fists
why did games workshop write these shittastic rules

>>54609904
>Annoyed the siege legion beat you in a siege.

>>54609904
now you know why they IW hate them

>>54609812
>I'm not even sure what the Chaos faction offers players.

Demonette models have a tit. Does any imperium model have a tit?

That's a store legal tit too, not some third party crap.

>>54609904
pretty much this
>>54609916

Do you also cry when noise marines ignore your cover?

I bet the Guard cried when they realized the walls of the emperor, his divine will made manifest -- his will to shield and protect, I bet they wept when their walls didn't shield them from the insidious sonic weapons

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>>54609709
Yeah, it would be wonderful to have that many choices. I'm hoping for at least some unique Tzeentch themed abilities so there can be some more fun on the tabletop.

> Everyone acting like the first week of the campaign is gonna be the end all be all
We've literally got another 5 weeks to go people, calm down.

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This is Konor News.

Literally nothing has changed in the passed 12 hours. Both sides are sitting in their trenches, with the occasional artillery barrage or errant Ork Waagh.

This is across the whole front, in every theatre. On the plus side, the only real casualty today was one Pvt Dickinson, who stubbed his toe and had to be granted the Emperor's Mercy.

Goodbye and good luck, kill us a traitor.

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>>54609904
>castling Imperial Guard trailer park army
>gets annihilated
>pic related

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>>54609904
So that the SM could cover most of the situation that are encounter-able through the use of different chapters?

Or if I should put it in a way that is easier to understand.
>time to play 40k
>oh yes, a classic! i shall put my [Faction models] in a [Transport]
>opponent arrives
>hello, today i am playing [models with a lot of 36'' range D6 damage.]
"why did games workshop write these shittastic rules"

>>54609901

Honestly I wouldn't mind and I can't imagine anyone else really would since that was perfectly legal 3 months ago and had been for years

>>54609970
Where is the enthusiastic lad?
Get that low-energy slag out of here.

>>54609946
specialized anti-cover unit versus nearly an entire codex's unit choices

wow good thinking

>>54609840

That looks awesome!

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How much of your army do you have painted?

>>54609894
Did those guys miss the fact that each week is fighting over a new planet?

>>54609940
a tit? Those generally come in pairs, according to pictures i found on the internet.

Do SM Librarians undergo soul binding?

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>>54609900
>I understand. Have a (You), it's on me.
Th-thanks.

Checked, bw

>>54610021
She's bored because there's no change.

>>54610082
Yes.

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Can a space marine company that becomes too deviant from their main chapter be used as a seed for a new chapter? Not in a renegade or heretical sense, they just end up with a split culture due to various reasons

That's how a lot of second founding chapters were organized, black templars especially

>>54609993
you're not mad at the game idiot

you're mad at cheeselord opponents, get better friends to play against

Your complaint (which you've tried to hide using poor communication skills) is that a generic space marine army can just pick whatever chapter tactics they want to fuck your army over.

You know what? Fuck you.

Index Xenos 2 isn't OP because you could show up with a list and some opponent could take only the units which counter you.


Warhammer 40k has always been shit at WAAC competitive levels, and has always been written with the concept of having fun in mind. You and your opponent are supposed to be having fun. At GW in nottingham this means collecting and painting models you look cool and then aftwards you can roll some dice with a friend and a beer and have a laugh at what happens.

Wargaming stemmed from painting models, people looked at their shelves and wondered "who would win in a fight?"

The rules aren't bad because some people abuse them, those people are bad.


Same way that society isn't bad because some people rape and murder.

In short fuck you and enjoy the Imperial Fists, masters of siege warfare from turning your pathetic attempt of a siege into a pile of mud and blood.

You're a goddamn clown trying to run the carnival

>>54610044
How do I do checks be actually square, I can never get the bastards consistent.

Ynnari Wraithguard look incredibly broken. Double advance move 16" with WotP and reroll shots to get 30 s10 -4 auto hits. Next turn fire twice. 30 wounds per unit of t5 power armor with conceal.

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>>54610068
not with Daemonettes

>>54609904

So your 4+ becomes a 5+, big deal

Rather than black Templars rerolling charges that will wipe your units or Raven guard infiltrating into rapid fire range

It really could be worse

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>>54610051
About 90% of my armies are painted, need to work more on some chaos vehicles and the Dark Imperium stuff.

>>54610114
take an exacto knife and lightly score out the pattern on the surface. itll act as guidlines and the grooves will actually help keep paint in the lines

>>54610002
I figure 99/100 times it'll be cool but knowing my luck I would run into some turbo autist who bitched.
Tbh I might just repaint all my shit anyway.

>>54610139
Cheers.

>>54609677
>Every xenos race loses way more by Chaos winning than Imperium.

The Tau and Necrons gain a lot with the weakening and removing of the Konor system which is a powerbase for the Ultramarine one of their most persistent and powerful enemies.

Orks have fun. Tyranids have biomass. Dark Eldar loot with no care.

Only the Craftworlder and Ynnari should fluffwise stand with Chaos with no fluff room to punch the Imperium unless no prophecy bullshit was pulled.

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I REFUSE to believe I'm the only heretic in Poland.
Show yourself my dear brothers!
Show me the despair their eyes never saw!

>>54610122
half covered solitary tit. hideous face. prostate exam claws.

Why does GW hate Slaneesh?

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>>54609677
>Every xenos race loses way more by Chaos winning than Imperium.

What do Orks lose?

>>54610092
I see your point. I might have been to quick in my response to disparage your rage.
But you quickly descended into a rant that got really hard to digest after the first 3 lines.

So I can't really sympathize with your view.
But I have a good day nevertheless.

Was there any confirmation of old marines being upgraded to primaris other than Facebook stream?

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>>54610193
I'll say this only once, so listen up.
>Teef
The only resource that matters.

>>54610186
A rerelease of diaz daemonettes would certainly be a disaster, probably wouldn't sell one box.

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>>54609857
They have flamers too. So you could mount those and run just fists sans flamers maybe too.

>>54610173
Except they don't remove anything, they replace Ultramarines with Chaos.

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So I read this book.

Clip not mag is used in the book. Why do I care? Repetitive posts by autists have done their job so well I noticed this gun info shit. Thanks gunfags

Unlike ADB this author uses the leaders as the POV protagonists. I didn't realise how sick I am of reading about shit through the eyes of some Lt until today. A nice change.

Kharn is given way too much respect. Everyone who faces him just goes "welp time to die". No one contemplates being able to kill him really. not even the saint Seems retarded. Demolisher cannons used to kill him just fine when I fielded him years ago.

Alpha legion memewank has been scaled back but they are still sneaky dudes who despite power armor are just too sneaky for everyone. My suspension of disbelief doesn't work sometimes with them. Still, I like the alpha legion characters. They are who you follow through most of the book. Another welcome fucking change as normally in other Alpha legion books they barely appear. Good job to the Andy clark. the way they are getting corrupted in different ways is cool to. Rip Skarle

Berezerkers spend their lives like money on a government contract. They must get respawned somewhere they die in massive numbers all the time in universe. Not really the fault of the book though.

Imperial fist are mad boring. No book can make them interesting I think. At least they all die

Decent read for a 40k book. If you are t. Alpharius you should read it.

>>54610246
You git.

Krump da ovva orks, get teef.

Chaos gits krump ovva orks, get teef.

Imperium gits krump ovva orks, get teef.

WOT DO WE LOZE?

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>>54610265
Make imperium lose something and then give Tau a viable threat?! Also Tau helping the imperium remember this?

>>54610293
Also Tau have nothing to fear from Nurgle because they already defeated Slannesh.

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>>54610271
Krump kaos, dey spiddly boof away, hardly get teef.
Krump 'Umies, take sizzling kustom ahr-till-ah-rye to da face, teef zoggin errywhere.

>ye got no sense a profit, ya git.

>>54609916
>>54609946
>>54609993
>>54610092
IF player here, the chapter tactic really is horrendous from a flavor perspective. Why bother destroying their fortification if you can ignore it anwyay?

>>54610345
Imperial Geometry anon..

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>Meatbags getting 2 new books

space marines are the best selling armies. everyone has one. Only army with a codex.

the other half of all armies are imperium

Losing the campaign. how?

>>54609604
They aren't, that's why Chaos is getting BTFO on the actual planetary level. The OP is just fake news.

>>54610364
Spite pure unadulterated spite.

>>54610361
maybe you should light some incense you superstitious toaster

If a single attack deals 3 damage, do I take away 3 models or 1?

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>>54610335
I'z a Goff, ya panzee git. Da foit's all dat matters in da end.

>>54610044
Impressive army you have there. I have around 3000pts painted if I had to guess. Still needing to paint 20 more infinity and all the minis I own will be painted.

>>54610345
this
Other chapter tactics counter that formation with strategies that are a bit more interesting than "your units just ignore cover".

>>54609773

Because if everyone buys them now then the sales figures will look good and in an edition or two GW will have filled them out with more customization and units.

Its not hype for the Chads we have, its hype for the Chads we will receive

>>54609677
The xenos aren't helping Chaos, though. At least around here it's 2-1 for the Imperium with Xenos players, and the overall charts confirm there's no significant branch of alien helping them. Imperium is easily crushing Chaos.

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>>54610392
>>54610335
You orks are alright in my book.

>>54610391
More info needed.

>>54610114
>orks
>giving a zog for right angles
Pik un' ya git.

>>54610392
Profit's mor import'nt.
I'll zoggin krump ya.

>>54610421
Say a hit a unit of 1 wound guardsman with a Transuranic Arquebus, the weapon makes 1 attack, but deals 3 damage. Does my foe take away 3 guardsman because it dealt 3 damage, or 1 because it was a single attack?

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>>54610424
WOT CLAN IZ YA, DA BLOOD AXEZ OR DA BAD MOONZ?!

You'z both a bunch a panzee gitz ta me. I'll krump you forst, I'z ded killy.

>>54610449
Unless its a mortal wound, excess wounds aren't distributed through a squad. They would take one model away.

>>54610391

1 model

Mortal wounds carry over, anything else does not

>>54610449
have you tried reading the rule book?
Its like 8 pages long.

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>>54609604
>play Orks
>If fight and chaos player and win I take a point off the imperium
>If I fight an imperium player and win I take a point off chaos
itz to make them feel sorry fer missin' a good fight!

>>54610423
I makez em too long, so'z dey'z rectangles instead!

>>54610506
I thought you can pick?

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I have the opportunity to buy a copy of the assassinorum board game for about half of what it would cost to buy the four models.

How are they in 8e? Does anyone actually run all four or do you just take the one you need as gap fill?

>>54610497
I have, just wanted some clarification rather than scouring the pages. Doesn't hurt talking to you guys anyway, you're fun.

a friend wants start warhams, now he's off building his own list and i'm trying to make a low power 750 guard list that could win if i do well and he fucks up, but isn't going to just shit on him if he goes for a knight and 2 infantry squads.

Right now i've got
Company Commander w/power maul
Platoon commander w/ power maul
Commisar w/ power maul and bolt pistol

3 infantry squads
1 with mortars, flamer, power maul
2 with mortars, flamer, chainsword

2 chimeras w/ multilaser, heavy bolter, stormbolter

armored sentinel w/ multilaser and chainsaw

vet squad w/ heavy flamer, flamer, mortar and power maul

heavy weapon squad w/ 3 teams, mortars
astropath w/ telepathica staff

vindicare

battalion, 3 cp, nothing super scary other than 7 mortars and a bunch of power mauls. Too much, not enough, what?

>>54610523

Fun.

No don't run all 4 at the same time

They're all pretty good

Culexus is probably best but they're all viable and good at trying to kill one particular unit

>>54610265
Chaos was never a threat to the Necrons and Tau in that region. The Tau considers the Imperium to be the greatest threat to their empire and the Tau have a burning hate for the Imperium after what happened in Mont'ka. The Imperium imprisoned them behind a wall of fire. You think they would forget that?

>>54610044
>fuckin bigass Goff mob
>that patrician bust

>>54609623
>>infiltrate 9" away, walk up into flamer range
>>if anything charges you, 24D6 autohitting S4 shots
>Enemy charges from 8.1" away
>you get zero overwatch
Get cucked lol

>>54610523
I think they're all good enough to run even as general units outside of the vindicare.

>>54610594
dumbest rule in 8th, faq when.

>>54610364
>Losing the campaign. how?
You should probably get your eyes checked for damage from all that semen sprayed into them. Imperium is still crushing the campaign, especially in based USA USA USA

>>54609663
I did plan on using some 3rd party Cyclone Missile Launchers, but have to find a somewhat smaller variant that doesn't look out of place or too huge. One alternative could be the grenade launchers the Wulfen have, though they might lack the 'oomph' you desire.

>>54610625
This isn't editions 5-7 anon, stop playing gay shooting armies

So I have been reading the new codex and I can't seem to find any new detachments for the marines? Is that correct or do I just suck at reading.
Mostly asking since I couldn't find any troop only detachments or the old force org in the general rules either so I am very confused how to make an army in this edition.

>>54610625
Never because balance reasons. Stay mad gunline fag.

>>54610646
I think that guy was with you Anon..

> imperium guys are even dicks to each other.

>>54610625
>mfw I play Tyranids and give all my guys adrenal so they get +1 to their charge rolls
>only need to roll a 7 to charge flamer units from outside their range
>they cry every time and it makes me dick ROCK HARD

>>54610594

>either reduce your chances of a successful charge to less than 40% or eat a gigantic overwatch hit

Sounds good to me desu

Chaos marine players, what are you hoping for in terms of your legion rules and/or stratagems for your specific legion?

>>54610646
I looked at stupid op pic, not the campaign website.

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Tried out an all dreadnought list, next I'm gonna go for an all infantry list

--Battalion detachment--

Captain - 95
++relic blade, bolt pistol, the Armor Indomitus
Librarian - 105
++Force sword
Lt - 72
++Power fist

Scout squad - 75
++5 sniper rifles
Tactical squad - 159
++10 marines, power sword, grav gun, heavy bolter
Tactical squad - 168
++10 marines, combi plasma, plasma gun, heavy bolter
Tactical squad - 82
++5 marines, power sword, plasma gun

Sternguard squad - 93
++plasma gun, 4 special issue bolters, holy shit what's the point of special weapons with these things?
The Imperial Space Mainre - 60
++disintegration goodies

Devastator squad - 149
++4 plasma cannons

--Outrider detachment--

Captain - 97
++combi-plasma, grav pistol
Librarian - 105
++Force sword

Eversor assassin - 70
++hehehehehehe

Tarantulas - 81
++3 turrets, heavy bolters
Tarantula - 27
++1 turret, heavy bolters
Tarantula - 60
++1 turret, lascannons

1498, 7 command points.
This is actually all of my infantry, except the vanguard vets. What chapter tactics would be the best though? I usually roll with iron hands

>>54610702
>implying I play some shit army that doesn't have bonuses to charge range and/or rerolls
>implying I can't just spend a CP if I have to
>implying I don't have psychic powers that literally just turn off overwatch

>>54610664
>Detatchments

Anon I....

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>>54609840
that looks sweet, I was thinking of doing the same thing, but using back to back dark angels icons from the forgeworld set

pic related, the 2 middle statues

>>54610345
There are fortifications you count as embarked in, but can fire from.
So you need to crack those.

Never seen them run but they exist.

>>54610740

>implying your genestealers aren't dead from infiltrating Flamers before they get the charge since you play nids and only go first when you seize

So how long until we Dark angels get some flavor,

Belial isn't unique in any sense now that everyone Deepstrikes the same

Sammael is quite boring

Azrael gives an invul (shrug)

Asmo is as shit as ever

Where is the secretive nature of the DA? Where's our flavor

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>>54610693
Uh. Unless they already have another +1'' charge rule; you'd have to roll an 8+ on charge to make it in. Flamers have 8'' range. Hence you need to be 8.5'' away to negate overwatch.
To get in melee you'd have to roll 7.5 or 8 which is the closest possible success roll.

>>54610780
>he thinks because I have a ton of models that means I have a ton of drops
>he thinks my genestealers start on the board
Holy shit you haven't actually played against a good nid player yet, have you?

>>54610787
I think they are like a salty flavor with a hint of bleach after taste.

I asked last thread and got no reply. Here it id again. I am brand new to 40k and am building my first marines. I plan on doing Black Templars, should I use the weird medieval knight helmets that came with the kit or no?

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How much do women (or dudes) in the 41st millennium crave giant ogryn cock? Is it like a niche fetish on some planets?
How many Ogryn'd threads are there on the 40k version of /gif/?

>>54610780
> 0 games played.

>>54610794
Reading comprehension, retard. They get a +1 to charge rolls. I start 8.5" away. I roll a 7. 7+1 is 8. I move up 8 inches. I am now 0.5" away, in charge range. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

>>54610816
Up to your tastes man. The only real way of showing that they are BT is the Black/White colour scheme and the Cross Icon.

>>54610787
>dark angels
>flavor
They probably taste like dude cum

>>54610816
Well, do you like those heads? If not don't use them. They're your dudes, put them together how you want.

>>54610821
orgyn trannies.

>>54610664
read the rules again

>>54610813

Unless you're playing pure nidzilla I guarantee you have less drops than me and even then it'll still be clos

>>54610839
Right, right. I forgot the initial 1'' to be in combat.
My bad. No need to act like an Imperium-player.

>You can get rules for the Hellblasters and the Intercessors in the new Space Marines codex, or start collecting Grey Knights or Chaos Space Marines today.
GK start collecting confirmed?

>>54610813
>>54610830
>exactly 1 minute apart

You're not fooling anyone.

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>>54610821
>taller than a nu-marine
>/fit/ as fuck
>more wounds than a terminator
>hit as hard as an autocanon if given a big baton
Are ogryns peak male performance?

>>54610672
>gunline
I bring SoS so I can shit on WaaCunt orkfags, still lose because melee babies need broken rules and can't handle having to make list consisting of more than one unit.

>bring flamers as actual counterplay and advanced tactics
>retards teleport shitblob alone and exposed across the board
>easy mode rerolls on failed charge
>rewarded by accident through forced 9" range.
>6 billion attacks on 6 point models, so idiots can bring all their unpainted garbage and stay below 2000 without having to count.

>>54610814
>>54610847
Where does the "Dark Angels are gay" meme come from anyway?

Anyway DELETE THOSE POSTS

>>54610917
Two separate posters that know your a zero game fuckboy?

>>54610920
ogryns are mindless savages, just as likely to shoot their gun as they are to use it as a bat


they are dumber than orks.

>>54610938
> Posted from the rock VIP lounge.

>>54610938
Lion el Johnson is named after a gay writer and their giant fortress "The Rock" is named after a Gay club near GW original HQ in the 80s
Also people say it just to piss DAfags off

>>54610929
>Spot the Imperium player.

>>54610893
Tyranids aren't Imperial Guard, we aren't forced to take our cheap units in little squads of 10 and fill out tons of slots with them. Tervigons with reinforcement points spawn squads midgame so they don't use up drops. Trygons give you -1 drop for each one you take because they bring in another unit with them. 3 Carnifexes are a single drop that only become separate units after deployment. You obviously haven't played against nids yet.

>>54610965
Why don't Ogryns join the Orks? Seems like they have more in common

>>54610293
>give Tau a viable threat?!

That would be reliant upon the writers wanting to threaten the Tau. There is zero evidence that they want that to happen.

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>>54610938
>Where does the "Dark Angels are gay" meme come from anyway?

The poet Lionel Johnson being gay and writing a poem about his gayness called the Dark Angel.

>>54610920
>Strong and tough as a Custodes
>spammed by the millions in the guard
Marines really are irrelevant.

>>54610929
use terrain.

>>54610948
Ordinary sample tyranid player

So GW has charged YOU (yes you) with putting together a set of melta weapons from the new primaris marines. They want

>A set of helblaster melta guns (assault, heavy and normal)
>an inceptor weapon pair
> a melta alt weapon for the maingun of the redemptor

What do these guns look like /tg/?

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>>54610998
>Why don't
they do

>>54610965
No they're not.
They can count to 4 and operate ogryn-proofed Las-cannons, some can even pray to the Emprah.

>>54610929
>Angry ass bitch ass typical ass guard playing plebian.

>>54610372
>fake news

fuck off with your low IQ terminology

>>>/pol/

>>54611033
Like regular ones, but longer.

>>54610917
>false samefag accusations
Every time

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>>54610816
>playing spess muhreens

>>54610711
>Black Legion
Chosen and Terminators as troops if they're still doing that. Some form of deep strike bonus (something to do with the 1/2 reserves limit?) DTTFE goes to 5+ when a unit charges or is charged.
>Alpha Legion
Chosen troops, some form of infiltrate, some form of sniper stratagem for infantry, mindfucky rules like forcing opponents to reroll dice.

>>54610268
>They must get respawned somewhere they die in massive numbers all the time in universe


I have read that before about various marines, the Gods will rez you if you put on a good show.

>>54610998
They used to be able to be allied, ogryns are pretty orky but they seriously drank the God Emperor kool-aid, they would never turn against him unless they were tricked, which isn't too hard

>>54611033
elongated melta gun
elongated melta gun with scope
elongated weltagun with scope that's attached to power plant
what did i win ?

>>54610917
> T-they don't agree with my faggotry must be same fag.

>>54611033

Melta weapons are some of the more consistent guns ruleswise, they'll probably be pretty standard besides possibly getting an 18" rapid fire 1 melta gun for the hellblasters

>>54610983
>>54611019
That does explain a whole lot. Thanks, anons.

>>54610969
t. fallen ange--

I mean uh DELETE

>>54610345
the flavour is that the fists destroy the fortifications in their preliminary bombardment and during combat sweeps/patrol

it's not that their rounds teleport through walls, rather that during fighting they tear down the walls, make holes, and other things

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>riptides spam is no longer competative

>>54609557

Well, it's okay at being an anti-horde platform that can punch things in a pinch. It really needs either better BS or no penalty for move and shoot to truly be impressive though. Worst skill stats of a large dread.

Also worth noting that the plasma weapon is far, far too unreliable, and it's kinda weird that it's secondary Gattling gun is a point cheaper than the heavy flamer.

If I had to rebalance it... I'd give it POTMS for being such a huge stable firing platform, reduce the base cost to 80 but make it pay 40 for the fist instead of getting it free (for leaving things open for later modularity)

Thus with a new effective base of 120, I'd raise the two gattling cannons prices a bit to make it end up about 210 points with the same equipment as before. Then make the plasma 2d3 without raising it's price, making the plasma and flamer loadout effectively 20 points cheaper.

>>54611093
>>54611063
>okay if I wait 30 seconds before writing my 3rd and 4th samefag posts everyone will believe me

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Why are they even bothering to make Primaris marines? This shit will never replace the regular marines for a single reason only: There is too much specialization of miniatures between the chapters.

Primaris Marines look nothing like the average DA Marine, for example. Good luck waiting 10 years for all that to be updated. Shit isn't happening.

How long is it going to take them to update everything and make the old stuff obsolete? Ages.

>>54610268
Did alpharius post this?

where does it say marines always control an objective regardless of how many enemies are on it?

>>54611055
>>54611094
>>54611088

thats disappointing. What weapons would you like to see that might make primais marines a bit more interesting?

>>54611124
2 months ago called, they want their shitpost back

Bitch about storm ravens and chapter tactics like the rest of us

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>>54610998
not sure if orks would accept them, also imperium would kill them before they became traitors.


>>54611019
>be me
>be the lion
>grow up in warp tainted forests were monsters roam
>tempted by chaos on the daily as a kid
>ignore and kill all chaos shits in my forest
>am so badass locals almost execute me because they think i must be a monster to live in the forest
>run through ranks and eternally cuck my best friend / greatest traitor.
>am given the first and best legion
>fuck up anything in our paths
>legion that rivals even that of the ultramarines
>got mad at russ so i socked him cold
>got mad at curze and chased him across the galaxy
>tried to hide on macragge
>am told not to orbital bombard the planet
>do it anyways because fuck you im the lion
>beat him with my bare fucking hands within a inch of his life

lion is a fucking apex predator, this shit with him being gay / heretic need to stop

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>>54611033

>>54611147
Whatever helps you sleep at night schnookums.

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>>54611148
>Implying they won't make Primaris upgrade sets for Chapter specific looks.

>>54611180
Stormravens got nerfed, so now just Chapter Tactics.

>>54611182
A heart kek

>>54609481
where do you see campaign breakdowns like this post?

>>54611206
In the op you quoted mah nigga.

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>>54611124
>the amount of unpainted or only basecoated Riptides on ebay

>>54611182
3d6 damage

>>54611155
No Alpharius posted this

>>54611075
The mook berzerkers must get respawned as well. They die a lot. They are like chaos orks. They must grown out of skulls that are planted or something.

That must a job, planting skulls of the slain to grow berzerkers on a daemon world. Then the Daemon prince who died naturally has an army again.

>>54611189
This is going to be so rage inducing for players who have already assembled and painted their primaris and can only apply the conversion kits for new sets. Also 10 pounds for about 5 pauldrons? You will need 20 pounds extra for an intercessor squad.
Keep up with the competitive prices, gw

>>54609677
>Oh, I see, they're so retarded they act purely out of spite. They deserve to lose in the end.
You clearly need a new pair of eyes

>>54611221
Just looked it up and that shit is more than hilarious.

>>54611218
>reading comprehension
where do you see campaign breakdowns, like the one in op

are they just on GW store facebooks or something? The stupid 3D planet doesn't show much at all

>>54611033

Hmm

Redemptor one is S9 30 inch range and fairly cheap maybe?

Ooh, give it +1 damage, +2 in half range on top of the regular Melta rule. Just make it a really big single punch.

>>54611250
The link is in the op you dense motherfucker.

>>54611053
>>leftypol the post

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Aesthetics Tier List:

>God Tier
Space Marines
Mechanicus/Skitarii
>High Tier
Tau
Eldar
Imperial Guard
>Mid Tier
Chaos Space Marines
Chaos Daemons
Tyranids
Dark Eldar
>Shit Tier
Necrons
Genestealer Cults

>>54611147
Holy shit what a retard

>>54611302
Hahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahhahaha
*gasp*
Hahahahahahhaahahahahahahaha

>>54611189
He looks like that cop from Demolition Man with the computer instructing him on how to arrest a person.

>Raise your sword sword, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, "for the Emperor".

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>>54611221

>>54611253
>Heavy 1 30" str 9 ap -4 dam D6+1, 2d6+2 pick highest under 15

avg of 6 dam under 15" is kinda crappy

>>54611201
Which people will stop bitching about in like a week when we get the Chaos leaks

Except Tau players who are going to have to wait forever for a new Codex

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>>54610345
Because sometimes those fortifications have ordinance that you really want to remove?

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>>54611033
Slap some skulls onto it and you're golden.

>>54611302
You're correct!

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>>54610998

Orks that encounter feral Ogryns do recruit them.

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>>54611302

>>54609773
Some of us have different opinion then you. And tastes are something that normal people dont talk about.

>>54611088
>>54611094
Take the melta idea and turn it into something a little broader with high damage single attacks.

So option 1 is an 18 inch melta.
Option b is a 12 gun that always gets 2d6 pick highest. rapid fire.
Then a heavy weapon melta.

>>54611302
Wow this is garbage

>genestealer cults not in god tier
>shitty cult mechanicus on the same level as based skitarii
>SPACE MARINES IN GOD TIER
>Tau anywhere above mid tier AT BEST
You have such plebian taste I don't even know where to begin

>>54609888
Mounts
Bikes
Terminator armour

>>54611302
>Eldar
>Not at the top

>>54610920
>clumsy
>slow
>can barely speak
>will rather eat alive you than fuck

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>>54611338

>tfw Orks are so irrelevant you forget they exist

Gorgutz model when?

>>54609904
time to buy a void shield generator
>>54611033
say no and give them lascannons instead

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>>54610250
>being this new

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>>54611302
Is this really well done b8?

>>54611379
>will rather eat alive you than fuck
t. self-hating ogryn

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>>54611367

>God tier

>>54611324
Tau players get the fuck in here and explain yourselves.

>>54610987
>"How do we fix orks in 8th"
>"make Boyz practically free, 4 attacks each, reroll charge, and immune to morale."
>"wow great start boss, what next?"
>"nothing, have an intern fill in the rest of the index."

>40 bolters is a meme
>120 boyz is not only somehow acceptable its the standard starting point for list building.

Face it, orkz are for 8 year olds.

>>54611033
>A set of helblaster melta guns (assault, heavy and normal)

A mix between a meltagun and a multi-melta with different muzzles.

Assault variant has a short range and is basically the old timey meltagun dispersal beam (flame template). Fires D6 shots with lower Str., AP and Dmg. Muzzle a short and wide one.

Regular is an 20" meltagun with a regular style melta muzzle.

Heavy a double-barreled Multi-Melta style muzzle. 30" range and Str. 9.

>an inceptor weapon pair

Pair of heavy inferno pistols. 9" range.

> a melta alt weapon for the maingun of the redemptor

Something like the melta-lance from the Leviathan.

This is what I think is in codex chaos space marines, we know we're losing some datasheets, just like how space marines did

1. Kharn
2. Berzerkers
3. Abaddon
4. Huron?
5. Fabius
6. Chaos Lord
7. Chaos Lord in Terminator
8. Chaos Lord on Bike
9. Dark Apostle
10. Daemon Prince
11. Sorcerer
12. Sorcerer in Terminator Armour
13. Warpsmith
14. Chaos Space Marines
15. Cultists
16. Terminators
17. Rubric Marines
18. Plague Marines
19. Noise Marines
20. Chosen
21. Possessed
22. Helbrute
23. Mutilators
24. Chaos Rhino
25. Chaos Bikers
26. Raptors
27. Warp Talons
28. Chaos Spawn
29. Heldrake
30. Land Raider
31. Predator
32. Vindicator
33. Obliterators
34. Havocs
35. Forgefiend
36. Maulerfiend
37. Defiler
38. Lord of Skulls
39. Lucius
40-45??? Not enough for all the lords/sorcs on steeds? Maybe we lose lord on bike? Then we can fit the 4 lord steeds and the 3 sorc steeds

>>54611426
The WAACfags are leaving us for the fresh cheese. Good riddance.

>>54611452
k.

>>54611148
>Primaris Marines look nothing like the average DA Marine, for example.

A...dude in power armor? Or are you robe memeing.

Also, holy shit, it's a hobby. Make it. Buy some green stuff and git gud.

The other chapter codices are just overly flavored versions of the same army, anyway.

>>54611372
won't lose terminator armour, there's plastic kits (two actually) in every gw store

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>>54611302
No one can insult ya if yer not on da list.

>>54611302
Guaranteed replies: the post.

>>54611148
it's really easy to sculpt a cloak, it's actually easier to make primaris look like dark angels than it is spacewolves

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With all this talk of ogryns does anyone know the recipe for black or dark skinned ogryns?
After painting 120 white guardsmen I'm trying to decolonize my army and throw in a little variety of skin tone

>>54611452
>4. Huron?
Since when does he have a model? FW doesn't count, GW won't put rules for FW stuff in the Codexes.

>38. Lord of Skulls
There was a rumour this is getting removed, don't know how true

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>>54610506
>Not asking for bribes in bitz to take points off your enemies' enemy after you beat them.
What are you, a grot?

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>>54611512
>Since when does he have a model?

4e

>>54610916
wtf where did you see this? I've been dying for a GK SC. Also, now that the full range of primaris is public knowledge, any bets on what will be in the SC?

>>54611446
>20 inch.
Every base weapon range is a multiple of 6, even other ranges are divisible by 3.
A 20 inch range isn't going to be a thing.

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anyone know if these sexy rods have rules in 8th

>>54611452
Nice Reddit post, upvoted!

>>54611250
Swipe to the right of the planet to see region info
Haven't figured out store info yet

>>54611512
he has a resin model on the GW web store

nah the LoS is plastic and GW likes selling big dumb robots

>>54611532
that said if huron is dropped from the codex all of the steeds fit into 45

>>54611452
They're dropping plague marines

>>54611538
they do not and they won't ever get them

>>54611533
They're not making one or it would have been announced with the Codex and repackaging of Voldus.

The community site says "start collecting Grey Knights and CSM today" but CSM has a hyperlink to an actual start collecting kit and GK has nothing.

>>54611422
>not worshipping the 4 armed emperor.
pleb

>>54611302
Not a bad list overall.

Got a few problems:
CSM and SM can be done up to look more or less the same. Take for example Horus Heresy where they actually look the same.

Eldar are arguably the top tier if you are a god tier artist.

I don't know what IG are doing in high tier. camouflage tanks and dudes with guns in uniform are aren't interesting and are massively overdone in the miniatures world (see every historical ever, FoW, normal modelling, etc.)

I don't really have a strong argument for/against Tau. People really like their mecha style so ok I guess.

What the fuck are admech doing in god tier? I honestly don't understand this. I have yet to see a cool conversion, amazing unusual paintjob or inspiratory model. Everyone just does mars dudes like they've forgotten mars is the ultramar of admech. Obviously this list is a personal preference list where you just drop down armies in order of your likelihood to buy but still.

>>54611561
They won't drop plague marines -- the WD confirms that Khorne Berzerkers are in and you need the four cult marines (as elite slots) to make Black Legion lists

And black legion is the closest thing to ultramarines that chaos has

>>54611561
They're not, they're going to stay Elites choices and be Troops in the DG Codex. Just like Genestealers.

>>54611533
there's no start collecting grey knights because the army is already "cheap" in GW's eyes

After two boxes of paladins, two dread knights and two strike squads you're basically done

>>54611512
>>38. Lord of Skulls
Oh come on. No way they remove it. What am I supposed to do with it?

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>>54611428
Orks deserve some moments in the spotlight after the previous 4 editions.
And Orks are for people that love conversions, scratchbuilding stuff and rolling lots and lots of dice.

And calling the clowns of the setting for 8 year olds, is just another way of putting down things you don't personally like.

Not everything is for everyone Anon, still no reason to be rude.

>>54611591
Use the index.

>>54611591
if it is removed then you just have to use your index chaos whenever you want to use it

then again this is GW, one of the stratagems is probably the triple lord of skulls formation from 7e

something like deal 8d6 mortal wounds to 3 units or w/e and give up your shooting attacks with the LoS because "haha you spent money on 3 LoS"

>>54611428

I took 120 Boyz to a game on Saturday. Got rounded smashed by a Primaris player.

Boyz are the heart of an Ork force because they're morale buffers. But they just don't do that much damage, and they have no survivability, especially with Painboyz getting nerfed, KFF still being too expensive and 'Ard Boyz no longer being an option. Yes, a full strength mob will frequently over-run a small unit like Tacticals, but I charged 30 Sluggas into a 10 man Intercessor squad and after 120 attacks had resolved, I killed 6. Next turn he just fell back and shot me, thanks to Ultramarine Chapter Tactics, whilst nearby units joined in and obliterated the remaining Boyz.

>>54611561
They might lose all the death guard stuff.
And by lose I mean will be in it's own codex and can be used with CSM codex stiff fine because of the keyword system, and what codex a thing is printed on not mattering.

>>54611426
>Implying it was just tau spamming riptides
every eldarfag had a wing on standby and now those are flooding the market with the new ally system here

>>54611402
>time to buy a void shield generator
>Imperial Fists just blow it up.

No terrain is safe from a good fisting.

>>54610068
Only SoB gets two tits according to GW.

>>54611065
>not liking facism

>>54611019
Youp thats the secret - not going chaos but huge orgy when every chapter member fucked Johnson in the ass - all took turns to go on his face - that why he hides in shame. Dark Angels are gay army basicly if you play them you are like saying my but is open for you friend.

>>54611428
4attacks each for like 4ppm is pretty disgusting honestly.

Eldar melee units cost 16-42ppm and NONE of them get 4 attacks base. Well, charging wraithblades with swords get 4, but everyone else gets 2 and they have to be charging when most units that get attacks on charge triggers can be charged and still get the bonus.

>>54611653
the local dark angels player is 100% gay, even has a husband

can confirm that dark angels are gay

>>54611533
It's from today's warhammer community blog post about incoming releases. I'm betting on a dreadknight myself since they are also pushing the grand master dreadknight option with the codex (not the model though)

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>>54611615
Shame on you for not using Warpath, Grazghull, and the banner combined.
>Bring at least 30 more boys next game.
>Lootaz help too.
>More boys always right answer
>Waaagh!

>>54611631
Some of us played aspect and tank dar with allied wyches who were fluffed as being super into khaine being murder machine.

This was in 7th.

>>54611654
You are actually a retard

>>54611510
Make the Bone 'Ead a lightskin nigga

>>54611615
>charged 180 points into 200 points
>killed 120 points, making back 2/3rds his units cost in a single fight phase
>didn't surround his opponent to prevent him falling back
>opponent took advantage of this mistake to retreat his under half strength units and get a few piddly shots off, killing probably 3-4 boyz max
>opponent then had to unload the shooting of multiple other units, likely costing far in excess of the boyz in points, to whittle down the now isolated squad, that would have been untouchable if the Ork player had been smart and surrounded
>somehow this makes boyz bad
Anon please.

>>54611699
>#notalleldar
Can we leave that shit in 7th please?

So how can orcfags stop the primaris flamer fuck up on turn one ? It basicly cucks them to oblivion ? What say you orks ?

>>54611718

If it makes you feel any better I bought 3 Hemlocks as soon as the index dropped.

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>>54611654
>>54611428
Comparing factions.
>Necrons
>Characters with 100 ppm get 3 attacks.
>After buff the 35ppm melee elite unit also get 3 attacks if they take the sword, 2 otherwise.

Also orks are 6ppm

>>54611676
the white dwarf was leaked, there's no start collecting GK

>>54611577
Khorne and mouse marines no one else we're losing our primarch and our new models like that, back to 2nded plastic and metals

>>54611718
Not them but no, because people say shit like "Eldar deserve to be garbage this edition because they were strong last edition."

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>>54611654
Did someone ask for a low costed model with way too many attacks?

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;^(

>>54611667
>tfw dark angels player
>actually homo
I didn't know about their homo references, I promise. I thought the Blood Angels were the gay chapter.