Horus Heresy General /hhg/

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First for <ALL DATA REDACTED>

>forge world open day in 2 weeks
>still no clue as to anything that might be there
What would they have to announce in the next few days, BESIDES 8th 30k, to make you excited?

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Does this effectively mean Sekhmet force weapon spam is ded in 8th? Or will TS just get force weapons for free?

>>54608882
A finished model for Dorn, so they can start on the next primarch.
Grav land raider.
Axe Sisters of Silence.
Some wacky new Mechanicum robot.

>>54608882
>Alpharius
>Angelus
>Dorn
>Sanguinius
>Space Wolves unique units

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>not switching to 8th edition literally killed the /hhg/

What legions job the most? Pick one traitor and loyalist legion.

My picks are Night Lords and Space Wolves.

>>54609485

Night Lords is more or less uncontested as top traitor jobber for now and all time.

Worst loyalist jobber is Raven Guard, with Space Wolves a close second due to Russ' tendency to get BTFO.

>>54609485
Iron Hands and Iron Warriors.

>>54609485
What's a jobber?

>>54609485
Objectively correct.

>>54609594
Raven Guard aren't really jobbers they just got fucked by the Dropsite Massacre. They're usually fairly competent during the Heresy.

>>54609617
Jobber is a wrestling term. It refers to someone who is brought in to lose and make the winner look good.

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This boi right here needs a model.

>>54608807
ALPHARIUS

WEN

>>54610026
He's been out for years. Every marine is an Alpharius model. :^)

play a meme legion get a meme answer

>>54610067
PYTHIAN SCALES + PALE SPEAR ALPHARIUS

WEN

>>54610067
>meme legion
t. bootybattered bitterboy

>>54610067
Aren't Blood Angels the new meme legion?

>word bearer legion kit helmets are literally just mk4 that someone jabbed a knife in to make runes
>no other marks then Maximus or a unique helmet pattern
>just normal mk4 with runes

Still not as bad as the copy pasted Emperors Children helmets. But Thousand Sons and Ultramarines are spoiled with two helmet kits.

>>54609485
Jew
8th suck,7.2 will be soo much better

>>54609485
Space Wolves and Sons of Horus.

>>54608807
So apparently the Scananon dumped us for Flames of War. Is this truly the end?

>>54610671
It still killed us, though. Hopefully people will trickle back as it becomes less of a novelty, but we'll still be far below our glory days.

I vote to make HHG threads weekly instead of continuous, in the hope of concentrating the few bits of good content we still have.

>>54611031
>there is only one scananon

We've been over this.

>>54611227

I think you need to read >>54594377

Anyone have experience with running any Knights Errant or shattered legions with Meduson? I'm trying to fluff up a fun force with some existing IH for post-Ferrus games.

>>54611257
If the man wants to get out, he can get out.

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>>54611925
But it's a betrayal of this place and this community. I think we need to censure the Scananon for not trying to help us in our hour of need.

>>54612158
He's a big boy, he can do what he likes. We'll either get by without him or the whole community just descends into poorfags whining for scans and not-poorfags complaining about poorfags whining for scans.

>in our hour of need

What hour of need? There's nothing for him to do. There's no books out for him to scan. He can scan the next FW book when it comes, but other than that, what do we need from him?

I'm not going to threaten him for "betraying us" nor am I gonna suck his dick to make him stay. He's a free man, he can suck his own dick.

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this book proves lorgar has daddy issues

>>54612867
From what I've heard I'm disappointed. I like it when villainous characters have loving families. Kor Phaeron is way more interesting in my eyes as an evil but affectionate father figure than an abusive stepdad.

I wasn't exactly expecting good things from Thorpe though.

>>54612867
Spoilers/synopsis please?

>>54613037
Thorpe just ruins everything, doesn't he?

>>54613342
In the first part with child Lorgar, Kor Phaeron smacks him and gets his guards to heavily beat him pretty often for asking too many questions, not calling him master and for calling him father at one point, he then does a 180 later when Lorgar saves his life

I have no idea how this man became first captain

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>>54612158
Fuck it, I'm in. Who's going to send him the edict?

>>54612158
He got shat on by the people he was helping, that and he doesn't have access to a proper scanner real soon.

I mean shit, he ripped apart expensive books so people could get the rules and a few smacked talked him. He can do whatever he wants.

To top things off he never name fagged, scanannon was as based as it gets.

>>54615574
Who took a shit on him and why would he need to rip books apart, there are ways of scanning books without destroying them. I mean, they scan old books and manuscripts without tearing them to pieces.

What colour are Imperial Fist veteran helmets? Veteran sergeants are shown with a white vertical stripe on red and a red vertical stripe on yellow. Is the forearm symbol the only visual signifier regular veterans get?

>>54615574
>He got shat on by the people he was helping
Literally one poster was being rude and the rest of the general told him to fuck off. Stop being such a drama queen.

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>>54615692
Courtesy of Scanon. (not him)

>>54613429
I loved the last chancers but I haven't read any of his marine books.

>>54615642
Manuacripts and ancient texts get scanned by either unbinding them very carefully, or with regular old photography. You only get high quality scans if you can lay the paper flat on the scanner bed, and that ain't happening if it's bound in a book.

And Scannon got shat on by a bunch of newfags in the AWG fallout, if I remember correctly.

>>54616169

It was a handful of dedicated trolls. But to the untrained inhabitant of 4ch, it might as well appear to be an army. He has been driven out, and we will not see his like again.

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>>54616169
I've seen a system like this used for old manuscripts.

>>54616396
That looks like photography, friend.

>>54616811
Both create an image file, do they not? Not sure what extra info a scanner picks from a page.

>>54616811
Scanning is just taking pictures of pages.

When painting an Alpha Legion army, do you stick to a single color scheme? I wanted a bit of a mix of the various different schemes, but would this look bad?
What do you think is the nicest color scheme for the Alpha Legion?

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>>54615853
Well now is your chance.

>>54612158
>I think we need to censure the Scananon

How dare you. Go play in traffic or /40kg/.

Scanons, please forgive us for the fuckers like this which you must suffer. We love you.

Friendly reminder that if you weren't at the Siege of Terra you're an NPC legion.

>>54617953
But all the Legions were at Terra now. BL retconned it. There's even Ultramarines at Terra.

If you want to be more truthful, go with 'if your Primarch wasn't at the Siege of Terra you're an NPC legion'

>>54617987
>ultramarines at SoT

What? I must have missed that retcon, were they there in any kind of great numbers?

>>54618328
We know of at least one, a Captain Arcadese who is in Kyme's gates of terra. He commands the Ardent Reef series of fortifications.

>>54618328
Pretty sure all the legions had some honor guard (~10-15 marines) on Terra. See Severian from the Sons of Horus (Loyalist).

>>54617987
So basically what you're saying is that mkVII is fluffy for everyone to use.

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>>54617017
I'm a big fan of the purple, but you almost never see it done.

>>54617953
It really is great to be in the top three legions.

>>54619103
Friendly reminder that the LOYAL legions that didn't betray the Warmaster and True Emperor of mankind are the Top legions

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>>54612158
No anon, you are the censure.
And then anon was a shitposter.

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What are your opinions on painting up Imperial Fists in a deserty DAK color? I don't care for lemon yellow and I want to avoid the turbopleb black scheme.

>>54620220
Patrician taste

>>54619608
Even as an autistic Dark Angel fanboy I can say that being in the three bulk loyalist legions at Terra puts them above the rest. Raven Guard, Iron Hands and Salamanders get a pass for being all but destroyed at the Dropsite but the Ultramarines, Dark Angels and Space Wolves can pretty much fuck off.

Guilliman thought that it would be better to empire build than attempt to figure out the situation first.

The Lion just fucked about, yeah they smashed the Night Lords but didn't take them out of the game.

Leman 'pretending to be retarded' Russ is the worst of all, he was actually at Terra then left because 'wolves don't stand on walls' or some other bullshit. Then he went to fly off and get his legion BTFO to the same extend as the Dropsite loyalists.

>>54620690
This is all caused by them extending the length of the HH but not changing the events that happened.

>>54620713
Was it originally longer or shorter than it is now?

IMO the whole thing needs to be longer, something like 500 years for the Great Crusade and 25 years for the Heresy.

>>54620742
wait ignore me, I read extending as changing.

Still think it should be longer though.

>>54619098

Does anyone know what paint that teal is?

Asked this in the 40k general but it moves too fast and this one doesnts.

So whats the go when two Black Library novels contradict each other? Recently read the Crimson King and it kills off a character thats later on in the Ahriman series.

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>>54620690
We don't know if Guilliman and Lion responded any differently than Sanguinius when they all discovered the Emperor was alive. It could be that they just got delayed by warpfuckery on the way to Terra but birdboy got lucky.

>>54620810
Just pick the one you like best and forget about it, GW fluff has been unclear and contradictory since ever.

>>54620810
>So whats the go when two Black Library novels contradict each other?
Official policy is that new fluff overwrites old fluff.
>t. Girlsname Goulding

>>54620841
>>54620857
Fair enough. Its not even too egregious just something I noticed.

Crimson King was a weird novel either way. It felt like it was trying to tie up too many lose threads but also opened up new ones just for the sake of it.

>>54620834

Lion and Sanguinius both manage a pretty decent late 80s/early 90s hair rocker look, but Guilliman is really letting the band down.

>>54620910
>It felt like it was trying to tie up too many lose threads but also opened up new ones just for the sake of it.
This should be Black Library's tagline.

>>54609848

My nigga

>>54609848
Probably wont come with wings because the modeler doesnt like doing those.

>>54620910
It tied the Blood Raven idiocy.

The fleets that Magnus sent off before BoP happened, made it to the Planet of Sorcerers. And Janus is a shard of Magnus.

ADB won. The Blood Ravens are not TS.

>>54620974
>The Blood Ravens are not TS.
The BR could never be TSons as they dont suffer from the flesh change. Thats not ADBs fault.

How can I make MK3 destroyers stand out beyond two bolt pistols? Hard mode is that I already play a black painted legion.

Add some funky tubes to the helmet? Paint them scorched metal rather than black?

>>54621170
Have them be really heavily weathered grey? Think ceramite thats caked in ground-up civvie and then irradiated for a month

>>54620968
Is this a nipple horn joke?

>>54621282
Yes. I'm still salty.

>warhammer fantasy general is more alive then hhg

SAD!

>>54621361
Decent HH rts that brings life to dead games when?

>>54621361
>people complaining about the slow general contribute nothing
Honestly this place is better now than it was a couple of months ago, at least the shitposters, attention whores and namefags have fucked off.

>>54621361

>Blowing up the entire WHFB setting and ending all support for the game did less to kill off the community than the decision to keep HH in 8th

Wew. Are there any contrarians left who think that FW hasn't made a monumental blunder?

>>54621412
I'm on the fence, I consider it a massive blunder from the view that it killed off the community but I still prefer 7th to 8th rules.

>>54621361
>game with decades of players who are motivated because GW shafted them and probably don't care much about AoS
vs.
>Marinefags waiting for their marinefag: the game to get its next book and can spend time following what happens in 40k in the meantime

>>54621412
I highly doubt HH's gonna stay in 7th. They can barely keep making army lists. Now imagine them making an entire game and upkeeping it. Yes, I know it's 7e, but they're now in charge of keeping that going, not just piggybacking on GW's rules.

I can only imagine their rulebook as being there purely to have a rulebook for people to buy (now that GW doesn't print 7e ones anymore) while they spend the next few years slowly converting all their stuff over to 8e.

>Coming summer 2018:
>The Horus Heresy book 1: Betrayal, 2nd edition.

FW, you're a genius...

>>54621245
yeah that sounds pretty nice, I'll probably have them a dirty grey/metallic colour to contrast them from the rest of the force.

>>54621412
I'm holding off on any heresy-only purchases for a while, since i was planning pre-8th on doing a second legion (crimson sons, the pre-nostraman night lords, was going to get a glaive to go with my choom squads and go full mechanised volkite blitzkrieg), but i'm waiting until we know whats in store for 7.5 before i make any major decisions.

>initiative stays, charging gives you +1 I
>everything gets toughness values, but non-brick vehicles (i.e. not one AV all round) are +1 to wound from rear shots, also vehicles have arcs of fire
>templates stay, make quad mortars just do d3+1 hits and fire once instead of scattering four times

FW pls

>>54621582
>i'm waiting until we know whats in store for 7.5 before i make any major decisions.
>initiative stays, charging gives you +1 I
>everything gets toughness values, but non-brick vehicles (i.e. not one AV all round) are +1 to wound from rear shots, also vehicles have arcs of fire
>templates stay, make quad mortars just do d3+1 hits and fire once instead of scattering four times


I know you're probably wish listing there but if you seriously think that 7.5 will be anything more than a direct copy-paste job of the 7th rulebook with a fancy red FW cover then you are deluded.

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>>54621724
>I know you're probably wish listing there
what, the
>fw pls
didnt tip you off?

>>54608807
So, when are we getting those Aquilion Terminators? They were shown like a month or so ago as "coming soon". Do you think they're taking the time to fix them so they look more like Cataphractti?

>>54621790
Open day is in like two weeks, we're probably just going to get more sicaran variants though

>>54621790
>Do you think they're taking the time to fix them so they look more like Cataphractti?
>FW altering finished sculpts because the fanbase has a fit
We have Magnus with no nipple horns and Mortarion with no rebreather, what do you think.

>>54621582

>changes

FW have already made it pretty clear that 7.5 more like 7.nothing, amirite? will have no rules changes. All they're doing is incorporating HH rules, removing anything redundant, and putting it in the 30k graphical format.

>>54621754
Yeah, I figured but I have seen some people use >pls unironically.

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Yes forgeworld, that's nice and all, but when's the meltamouth doggo coming out?

>>54621809
I'm still miffed that FW did change their original reaver squad and the SoH upgrade kit before release. The original had stuff that we saw in black and red book "sketches" or concept art. Basically it was a ton of individualized parts based of all three mks instead just 3 reused heads and bodies

>>54621882
That sounds crazy, do you have any pictures or references?

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>>54621921
Here's two pics of pre release reaver/upgrade stuff. Unfortunately the one image of the actual reaver squad I can't get because the image hoster thing is down. But I'm pretty sure I can find it once I'm home

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>>54622104

>>54621866
Now if only the basic sister models were any good...

>>54622104
>>54622113
What a shame.

>>54621809
>>54621882
>FW got rid of the Luna Wolves transfers and brass
I'm still really pissed about that

>>54622113
>>54622104
Shit that stuff looks good. Many of the HH models are really good but some just lack so much, it's obviously too much to ask for upgrade kits like these but I feel for some of the legions that got pushed to the sidelines.

>>54622208
The original reavers were a lot bulkier as well, looked like a lot of mk2 and mk3 armor bits were used. Plus they were gonna be shipped with the bane strike bolter loadout. Clearly someone at FW though bane strike needed a high price and then the models were redone to fit the cheapest loadout

I also really like that mk2 helmet with the plume and SoH on the head

Is FW going to die now that Alan is gone?

>>54622264
no, don't be stupid.

>>54622264
?????
>Is an enterprise going to die because an employee died?

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>>54622219
I would have killed for all legions to get that level of individual design, although it seems like some assets were reused, take the top knot off the second head in from the left and you get the imperial fist helmet upgrade...

>>54622218
RIP BEST WOLVES

>>54613429
I want to argue this, because Angels of Darkness was great, but then he decided it needed to be part of series. And that series was stupid.

>>54612158
We're so negative in here that we're driving people away even without 8th's help. Cheer up, everyone! We still have a good game with the best fluff and models of any out there, and a community that organizes fun narrative events and funds research into muscular dystrophy. Sanguinius and the Lion should be out within the next 12-18 months, and I'll eventually get my The Khan model, I think.

We were getting an abnormally high number of disgruntled 40k players because 40k was a disaster during 7th. Now it's... well, I'm not convinced that it's great, but it's decent. So we're back to the previous slow trickle. Is that really a bad thing? There was plenty of complaining when 40k players were streaming in. Plenty of complaining now that they aren't. Just let things happen and worry about our own armies.

>>54625019
This. I enjoy the slower pace like back in the days of 6th Ed WHFB more, with a book released once a year at most. The hype was real back then.

>>54620810
Resurrection isn't out of the question in this universe.

But that is a bit embarrassing. They used to have Laurie Goulding to catch continuity issues like that, but he might not have been involved in M41 book editing and he left at the end of last year anyway.

>>54625019
People are just leaving until the 8th hype dies down. I myself have been playing more 40k than 30k lately but that's just because shiny new toys. I still prefer HH for the lore and the actual game. 8th is fine, but 7th is fine too imo (except the psyhic phase).

>>54625051
Well, now that I at least have legion rules, I don't have much of a hurry to get anything new. Except the ability to get daemon allies for my DG, but that's not as big of a problem as no legion rules.

I'm mostly just concentrating on building my models and looking into getting primarines to use in 40k with my loaylists. Though haven't done anything this summer, since I've mostly been away from home or working my ass off. Once fall comes, I can once again sniff glue, drink thinned paint water and make terrible conversions.

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>>54622185
>Now if only the basic sister models were any good...

>>54625051
Yeah, I always like things a little slower. Time to build up, come up with some cool ideas that take months to develop because the rules won't change sixteen times while you're coming up with one.

On the upside, the new 8e Marauder Destroyer rules are awesome and I can easily incorporate some magnets into the Filiketos to allow it to weapon-swap to one. Firing eighteen heavy weapons at once is no joke.

>>54621170
Fade the paint due to radiation, and highlight it differently. If your normal black armor is a little bluish, highlight these with bone instead, or vice versa. Use lots of chipping because radiation damages paint beyond just fading it. Get some 3rd party bionic bits to make up for limbs that have fallen off. Your tubes idea is a good one, too. Maybe throw in some Mk V bits.

I think all solids get more brittle when irradiated (harder, but less ductile). Gouge out a few chunks of that ceramite.

>>54625019
Pretty much, 8th has new shiny things (I have to say, the Primaris tacticals really are nice, a good point for Tru scale and they are very mkIV-ish) and people will be riding 8th for a while. It's hype, what did we expect. Our threads blew up with inferno.

I still think the abruptness of how we weren't changing to 8th caught some of us off guard, but 8th needs to live for a year or two to really gauge if it would be worth converting to exactly 8th rules.

>>54621394
>Honestly this place is better now than it was a couple of months ago
THIS

I really missed the slow pace where you could have decent discussions without an endless supply of epic memers trying to be witty

What is the thread working on? Currently have a converted Dark Apostle that I need to finish, three plasma marines and a second sergeant for a second Tactical squad. I'm lacking two plasma rifles however so I believe I'll expand my grey pile with Prospero Burns and perhaps some beakies from FW.

I've never played a game of 40k or 30k so I'm currently assembling squads from what I've seen here and on Youtube. Never read the rulebooks either, I just enjoy collecting and painting.

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>>54625708
>memers
While we're discussing memes, how to memetize Blood Angels? Was thinking of going full angelic with titles, perhaps even names, like the Crown of Heaven praetor, the Aether's Flame moritat etc.
pic related

>>54625890
Sounds more like modern GW and BL writing.
Could go for a theme of their angelic/deamonic split nature. Sanguinius is a mutant even if his wings worked in his favor.

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>>54625859
Currently sticking wash after wash onto my Imperial Knight legs after spraying them silver. Then I just need to do some cables and details here and there in black/warplock bronze and add MORE WASHES, then drybrush some lighter metal over the pistons and such.

Knights are surprisingly simple to paint, especially Malinax where all the armour trim boils down to "Just keep on with the nuln oil until the metal is completely black".

>>54625859
>three plasma marines and a second sergeant for a second Tactical squad
You may want to read the rulebooks so you know you're building legal squads. We can help with that if you post more details.

>>54626315
The three plasma marines will go together with two already done plasmas. The sergeant will lead a tactical squad.

>>54620690
They killed a quarter of the NL, what do you want?

Also, he went to stop Guilliman, then became trapped by the Ruinstorm

>>54621038
>dont suffer from the flesh change
Malcador did it.

>>54625139
Look, I wanted them to be good as much as the next guy, but they are enormous, do a weird powersquat and are almost monopose.

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Is Leman Russ hated so much because he is a Chad and you all find Magnus more relatable?

>>54626865
Aren't squat poses pretty realistic for someone holding as word or hip-firing a pretty heavy weapon?

>>54627032
>Russ
>chad

More like the king of robots

>hairy
>stupid
>nobody likes him
>gets into autistic fights
>literally REEEEEEEEE'd so hard once killed several psykers (see: A thousand sons)
>probably smells

>>54627682
Russ was probably the only Primarch to get laid anon

>>54627711
>Fulgrim
>Sangy
>Chadboute

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How much did your legion's competence in the fluff affect your overall choice? I narrowed down my favourites to Imperial Fists or Iron Warriors but ended up choosing VII just because the IV get BTFO 24/7 in the lore. (especially after the Iron Cage was retconned into a MAD draw before the Ultras showed up.)

>>54627828
We posting pretty leviathans?

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>>54627828
>WEEE
>DDIEB
>HOCHD
>HTENT
>HBRAN
>ANNER
>ERNAC
>GEGEN

I don't get it. Why would someone put so much effort into their model and then make the runes say gibberish?

>>54628121
>he expects space wolves to read

>>54628017
Word Bearers, and I don't care that they're incompetent cartoon villains in fluff because the models are sexy as all hell. Also my store is a big pile of Loyalists and Loyalist TLegions, so I decided to provide some contrast with MUHAHAHAHAH!! DAEMONS!!! and as usual an unstable number of exclamation marks. Hordes of Chaotic mutants charging in front of Vindicators, a couple Dreads and Zardu the Awesome dropping daemons, plus Lorgar levitating forward with Gal Vorbak and Chaos Spawn. Sometimes also some regular Tactical Squads for vehicle-popping purposes, too.
I'm used to being constantly shat on in fluff anyway, since my other army is Mechanicus/Mechanicum.

>>54627828
How do you do the water? I really want to base an army with that now

>>54628017
>retconned into a MAD draw
It was like that in its first incarnation, no retcons at all. The two sides of the story just paint their respective legions as the ones with the advantage.

>>54625980
Mephiston is currently turning into one.

>>54628163
It's just dyed liquid resin poured into a box with a more viscous layer applied on top.

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>>54628017
The White Scars novels pulled me in, and yeah, their competence played a role. I play Battlefleet Gothic, so it's great to see that they're good at naval combat. Their weaknesses - not being naturally careful (in reference to disposing of ork bodies to prevent new outbreaks), sloppy defending, and not being as resolute as other Astartes - don't bother me. I think I'd share all those flaws if I were shoved into a combat zone.

>>54625859
Sadly stuck in the waiting period. My DA are just large enough that I don't want to add anything else until Angelus comes out in case of rules changes/new rites/special units and characters. Unfortunately I'm also dragging my heels about painting the infantry until we get Angelus.

In other news is it worth giving a power armor/paragon blade Praetor any shooting weapon other than a bolt pistol?

>>54626579
That's boring. Let's blame Fabius instead.

>>54628867
Generally not... unless we switch to 8th.

>>54628121
>>54628132
>WEEE
>GEGEN
2/8 isn't bad.

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>>54625859
Waiting on the Repulsors I ordered for my custodes - usually I get my GW stuff on Tuesday or Wednesday, so I am excited to start converting.
Can't wait to finally have a trio of grav-rhinos.

>>54629346
Terrible.

>>54629346
But it looks nothing like a Rhino.

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>>54629616
Because the old grav-rhinos were so much like regular rhinos...

>>54629657
Yes?

>>54629616
Leave off the turret and it looks as much as a rhino as the old grav-rhino did, i.e. somewhat similar at a glance.

>>54629657
Those weird searchlight-anti grav engines look nothing like the plates all the new Imperial hover-vehicles have.

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To what extent do pieces of different armor marks function when mixed together? Thinking of helmets, specifically. Do later helmets work on Mk II or III armor? I'm working on White Scars vets before their arrival on Terra. They were stuck in largely traitor-occupied space for four years so I'm trying to give them a ragtag look while maintaining a healthy dose of armor autism.

I'm definitely mixing in Mk V bits, and I might throw in a 40k Chaos backpack here and there. I have a couple of Mk VI helmets that I'm a little hesitant to use, unless I find someone selling 40k Chaos bikers (just the riders), who I think have Mk VI-ish legs.

>>54629972
Mixing helmets onto earlier armour seems entirely fine, all PA marks seem to be pretty cross-compatible.

>>54630052
Theres a part in book 6 that says mk 4 and 3 have trouble working together. I personally say that go where you want, my SoH are a mess of mixed mark armour, because I have it in my head that the warmasters own like to customise their warplate.

>>54630859
>Theres a part in book 6 that says mk 4 and 3 have trouble working together
That's only when you're trying to weld two pieces together. The example was a III/IV chestplate split down the middle. You can mix and match just fine if you're so inclined.

>>54609710
>Raven Guard aren't really jobbers they just got fucked by the Dropsite Massacre. They're usually fairly competent during the Heresy.

The punished legions are the biggest jobbers of all. They arrive in force, *knowing HORUS is there* and just... drop assault onto the planet. Sure they might have been thinking about taking him alive - or at least taking his body back in a way that bombardment wouldn't permit - but... it's Horus. Tactician of the age. Second in power to the Emperor; praetor of his own legion of close-assault specialists, negotiator, politician, leader of men.

You're seriously saying the Raven Guard had no idea they were about to get fucked? Their boss has premonitions. The Iron Hands? Really? They couldn't interrogate the systems of brother legions supporting the assault? The Salamanders didn't... well I mean what ever, but honestly, those legions jobbed. I can forgive the DA and BA not being there, the Ultramarines getting their back doors smashed in by Lorgar in a parallel action... but "let's just have a big drop assault against a suspiciously empty planet in a system that doesn't even seem to be defended by the fleet we know exists" is ridiculous.

>>54630859
Yeah, but that was an arm or half a chestplate grafted onto a different mark of armor. I can see how that would be technically difficult and something only Iron Hands or Salamanders would want to do. I'm not sure it correlates to the difficulty of helmet swaps.

Not to mention, FW has shown assembled WS models with Mk IV armor and their "White Scars Mk II Heads Upgrade Set" helmets. But I guess that's just because they don't want to make multiple legion-specific helmets for every legion.

>>54631197
Not destroying the traitors from orbit was dumb (yeah yeah, gotta bring back the bodies yadda yadda) but these seem pretty unfair.

>You're seriously saying the Raven Guard had no idea they were about to get fucked? Their boss has premonitions.
They had scouted out Isstvan ahead of time and found no traps. Corax's premonitions aren't reliable and they were about to fight four Astartes legions so having a bad feeling would be natural.

>The Iron Hands? Really? They couldn't interrogate the systems of brother legions supporting the assault?
The ships have defences against that sort of thing and it's not like they're going to start engaging in cyber warfare with their allies in the middle of a battle.

>that doesn't even seem to be defended by the fleet we know exists
It's not like the fleet could be hiding close by. They were on the lookout for enemy ships and would have detected them far in advance. They could have just waited around but Ferrus was eager.

>>54631197
The loyalist Legions were there not just to kill the traitors, but to make an example of the prick. To overwhelm his already mauled (due to Isstvan III) with massively overwhelming force, showing that the Imperium would not tolerate treason for a second and would drop an absolutely insane hammer on that shit.
In regards to the fleet, it wasn't present, sure, but there is an assumption among the loyalists that fucked them on the ground too. They assumed the traitor fleets withdrew because they knew thier four legion fleets stood no chance against the SEVEN Loyalist Legion fleets coming to skullfuck them. Now we, looking from the outside in know that the second wavers were traitors too, and it was a set up for the biggest buttfucking in human history.

>>54627828
>That water effect
Damn that is sexy. I think that image just gave me a great idea for a set piece/diorama board

>>54632126
Do tell. Dioramas are awesome, but I've never had an army developed and well-painted enough to be worth turning into a display board, at least not for an Armies on Parade or something.

>>54615786
Hmmm, if the Veteran scheme followed the same logic as the Heavy Support scheme then the far right should be just a legionary instead of a sergeant. Would it make sense to give veteran legionaries red stripes?

I love volkite!

>>54635393
>I love volkite!

I'm sure you'll love how volkite weapons are represented in 8th edition.

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Molded-on legion symbols or decals?

>>54635814
PAINTED
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>>54636028
I don't mind in 6mm scale, but I don't think i can do it in 28mm.

Decals would have to be 40k decals though... I guess I'd better suck it up and buy $50 worth of FW shoulder pads.

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>>54636285
Just practice my friend.

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>>54631750
>Boy howdy! I'm sure glad these dudes wearing skin and lightning have my back! I'm sure they're totally trustworthy just like their primarch!

It's their own fault.

>>54620690
>>54626549

Being a NL fan is truly suffering. I've basically accepted that we are and always will be the bottom of the barrel.

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On mixing armor marks, I've been going through forums and it seems that old fluff was that Mk IV was not compatible with Mks II-III, but once the Heresy started they needed suits that were more backwards-compatible so Mk V mixes with all the earlier types.

Mk VII was said in an old White Dwarf to have dual circuits so that it could handle both Mk IV parts and Mk II-III parts. Based on 40k models over the years, it seems likely that Mk VI is similar but I haven't seen confirmation.

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Finally slogging through the 20 Custodes on my desk after taking a break to work on other stuff.

I honestly forgot how long they can take.

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oh god-emperor yes

>>54637020
What legion?

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>>54637020
>4.3 mb
forgot to resize, my apologies
>>54637034
Iron Hands, haven't worked on them for a while on account of the uncertainty with 8th but now I'm back at it
looking to get my army all painted and finished up for october, pic related are some of my lads

>>54637079
>Iron Hands

Muh Iron Benis

>>54636708
Frankly, that one bare head looks out of place.

>>54636708
>>54637101
>w-wait... Why is everyone else wearing helmets?
>don't tell me I forgot it's banana-hat day

>>54637101
>>54637131
Honestly out of my entire force I have about seven unhelmed models; so hopefully with them he won't look too bad.

>>54620834
Please FW, give me something prettier than that cover. Sang looks hideous.

>>54637199
He looks fine, I simply found his pose funny.

>>54637079
Oh I remember your guys! Please keep posting your progress

Anyone have any pics of Cataphractii Night Lords? I want to surprise my 40k group for next week, which is elites week. I'd ask 40kg, but I figured here would be better.

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>>54637578

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>>54637578
Just Google it bro.

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>>54636538
While the VIII had a reputation for being nuts, they also had a reputation of going fucking berserk on sedition. The lore put down that the Loyalists were lary about the VIII legion due to thier murder crazyness, but didn't understand just how far they'd fallen.

>>54637020
Alpharius or cdr?

Is there an effective way to field Reavers for the SoH that aren't done better for cheaper by other units? I really do want to use mine, but every time they do go out to play they underperform.
I use 15 with jump packs, chainaxes and a chieftan with fist and artificer armour.

>>54638950
I feel like Reavers are a lot like Palatine Blades in that they're somewhat over costed for a unit that performs comparably to cheaper but carefully equipped Veterans.

Consider what their loadouts give them an edge against. You'll annihilate Mech infantry and you can take on various Legion support type squads, but you'll suffer against more elite dedicated melee units. Use them either as bait or as a flanking unit, and use cover/careful deployment to ensure they get as little/as much attention as possible, depending on how you want to use them.

>>54628121
Clearly, an Australian.

>>54639134
I honestly wish I had mech troops to deal with. My local is entirely legion.

>>54639134
Palatines and reavers have an edge over veterans with the ability to use jump packs. Unassisted mobility is quite a big boon for melee units.

>>54639210
Consider adding some/a lot of volkite chargers, power weapons and/or special weapons to add flexibility or boost their melee capabilities. The unit cost will skyrocket but they'll become far more capable of taking on other Astartes. Also, adding an Apothecary and ideally a Chaplain will boost the hell out of them.

The Chargers especially will make your unit a LOT more flexible, since Death Dealers makes your close-ranged ability utterly lethal.

Basically, like with Palatine Blades, you need to sink a LOT of points into them before they start to be worth it, and even then they aren't necessarily point's efficient. If you can keep them alive your enemy will likely focus on them though, which will let you deal with the rest of his army at your leisure.

>>54639298
Certainly, but as I said in >>54572518 Palatine Blades are absolutely outdone by Veterans unless you invest a very large amount of points into them, and Reavers share that (while, I would argue, remaining far more flexible due to their ability to take power WEAPONS rather than SWORDS as well as a variety of special weapons).

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>>54629735
>>54629971
Ergo, a "grav-rhino" does not have to look like a rhino with jet engines instead of tracks. Most depictions make a boxy hover tank, which the Repulsor is. Just remove the turret and other guff, and add aquilas.

I'll take a Repulsor "grav-rhino" over a space Cadillac any day of the week.

>>54608807
Keep the general dead and just post in /40kg/ until we get new stuff, we're a specialist game at this point

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>>54639602

>>54639537
The Coronus is not bad by any means, but it looks so weird next to custodes...

>>54639632
>person reposts their idea because they still believe in that idea
Wow man the cogitators exploded trying to understand that logic

>>54639660
>person reposts an idea that no one cares about or will listen to and have expressed displeasure at
The general is quiet, it hasn't died.

>>54639766
It's time we have /hhg/ euthanasia, when we have new content we can make threads, 40k used to be only Wednesday on /b anyway

>>54639858
Who the fuck cares what used to happen? Yeah warhammer wednesday used to be a thing but it eventually became big enough to get it's own board so here we are.

There are enough people in here to keep the general ticking over and we constantly have new content. People posting their models or asking for advice count as new content, this place doesn't just exist to frenzy post every time FW put out a new book or model.

You may not like the current situation but many people obviously still do.

Is it okay to play IW without black and yellow stripes on infantery ?

(I still paint a lot of those on my tanks)

>>54640538
For sure. Hazard stripes, black shoulder pads, red eyes and gold trim with a pragmatic, brutal look is what defines the "standard" Iron Warrior, but they're one of the largest Legions and people often skip those traits for a look they prefer. IW with gunmetal pads and ice blue eyes, or copper trim, or no hazard stripes...

Go nuts, and post pics.

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>>54640614

Thx for the information mate

Here's an old metal chaplain, he's not perfect (the armor needs maybe more contrast, the black on shoulder pads is a bit thick and the sanding is not really perfect on the torso and legs) but I kind of like it.

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Just a friendly reminder that the Ultramarines are objectively the best Legion.

>>54640736
Oh are GW doing biased codexes again?

>>54640736
This is not news, UM always had the most honors won and shit.
Now, the retcon of the Iron Cage on the other hand is odd.

>>54640720
Looks pretty good. As you say, the armour would probably benefit from an edge highlight/drybrush followed by a wash into the recesses/over the armour.

Have you considered toing something to break up the large, flat-ish parts of the leg armour? Some scratches or weathering or something.

>>54640776
That's not a retcon.
It's been there since the Imperial Fist IA.

>>54640776
>UM always had the most honors won and shit.
No the Luna Wolves did with the DA coming in second.

>>54640791
Was it? I don't remember the Iron Warriors being unable to destroy the Imperial Fists without getting wiped out themselves, but it has been a long time since I last read that.

>>54640842
Re read it. It's been that way since then.

>>54640736
>wow, humanity is unifying? sure we'll join no questions asked
>ANOTHER GREAT VICTORY FOR THE ULTRAMARINES

>>54640813
And the SW codex says it's DA followed by SW.
And I think Horus rising said it was LW followed by IF.

>>54640890
>T-the Ultramarines encountered only friendly people who wanted to join them a-and they described this as liberation
>BUT MUH LEGION HAD TO FIGHT FOR EVERY SCRAP OF GROUND

Haha

>>54639633
I like the Caladius, but the other two grav-tanks don't look so good to me.

Biggest problem is that FW's been really lazy with the design. I thought the Custodes stuff was suppose to come from several artificer clans on Terra, but they all look like they came from the same factory. From the smallest speeder to the dropship, they all follow the same aesthetics. Now compare a Javelin to a Xiphon and to a Thunderhawk. They're not all the same thing in different size.

Same with armour design. Since custodes have round shoulder pads, all Custodes units need to have them. And the dreadnought... It's just a big Custodian, because of course it is. Just like the Marine dreadnought is a big space marine with huge pauldrons and a bolter.

>>54640776
>>54640905
Maybe other legions should have kept track of their victories like the Ultras. It does say "record more triumphs" not "had more triumphs".

>>54640941
In the meantime, the Mechanicum is doing all the actual building in the background, supplying the Legions and more importantly the Imperial Army. The Legion pissing contest is always entertaining.

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>>54640736
>than any other legion

>>54641141
full pic?

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>>54641164
The artist did not released the full pic with colour

>>54641141
>"Warmaster" mad at the fact he's objectively inferior to a man named Booty.

>>54641272
>magnus stuck between angron and morty and none of them are happy about it
Perfect.

>>54641272
>Fulgrim slouching

Oh my, how imperfect.

>>54641272
Angron seems way to tall there.

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>>54641317
magnus in full pain with colour

>>54641272
Why is Khan a manlet.

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>>54641342
Are you sure?He is in a pretty gay pose

>>54641378
He is Asian.

>>54641342
He isn't slouching, he's bending forwards for some of that sweet Barbarus-made poison sludge.

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What manner of worlds did the 30k Blood Angels recruit from? Surely it couldn't only have been Baal and Terra.

>>54641887
It was, in fact, Baal and Terra. Mostly Baal, really.

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Haha, time for Custodes!

>>54642155
Post results, I'm interested.

>>54641887
Sanguinius took almost entirely from Baal. One of the reasons why he never had a large legion. Compound that with the deadliest gene seed transformation bar non along with all your chapter recruits being radioactive wrecks, the blood of Sanguinius somehow turned these victims into khorne berserkers, but prettier.

>>54642155
Be sure to post pics when they're done!

Also, how large are they? Judging by their description they should be larger than a Land Raider.

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Washing on Selket's Knight skeleton finally done after about two hours of bits of wash rubbing off and spending ages slowly layering it back up again. Black metal like the armour plate trim under normal light...

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>>54642866
... but orange light cuts straight through it so it's only slightly darker Leadbelcher. No idea why, or how that might be useful, but I kinda like it.

Going to leave it for a couple hours under heat to ensure it's properly dry before doing the bronze and such details. Wondering what colour to paint the cables, since it's already black. Red or green, maybe?

>>54642155
Good name, I am repulsed by it.

>>54632519
>Still need to actually start this army
But aside from that hick-up, I think this may now be the push to start. It'll also most likely gonna tie into my company's fluff as well.

But onto the board/diorama idea.
Basically during the Great Crusade, we know the imperium ran into a ton of "unknown" horrors. Well a lot of the unknown horror concepts in 40k stem from the Cthulhu mythos, so I was thinking about bringing that "unknown" aspect back to the waters.

In terms of actual design, I like the idea of a company (maybe not on the actual diorama) walking through shallow water, but unknowingly approaching deeper waters. But in those water you can see creatures slowly rising up from them. A slight variations would be that they're fighting whatever is lurking below, the image of marines discharging boltguns into the waters they're in trying to hit something.

From a design point, the idea of having models hiding in the resin water slowly rising up, some far more sly in look, while others are hulking creatures. The whole look of the water splashes and decent lighting strikes this really cool idea in my mind

Sorry if my thoughts seem a bit jumbled up, it's just for some reason this really has me excited

>>54638298

What are the little straps hanging from shoulder and belt supposed to be? Like, what material?

>>54619098
I'm leaning towards this paint scheme for my dudes. I was thinking of fluffing them as am elite force from the original ghost legion days that still uses the preheresy legion colors

>>54643734
Pteruges, usually made from leather, though versions made from cloth or metal links exist.

>>54643734
Leather made from human skin.

>>54643421
I do like the idea, although you'd have to be careful with the layered staining on the resin water to keep it properly murky. Maybe have the Marines fighting smaller creatures in the usual blaze of boltguns and splashing water, with the bigger ones rising up out of the deep water unnoticed? Then you can do both.

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>>54643782
>>54643784

Thanks

So, how the hell am I supposed to get Axes on my Cataphractii... I didn't realize how limited the plastic ones are.

>>54615786
which book is this from?

>>54608882
>8th 30k
I literally just started this game *because* it's not 8th. There are so many fucking bullshit changes to 40k that I'm incapable of enjoying it. It's a fundamentally different game.

>>54644406
What legion do you hail from?

>>54644310
Buy more hands or buy the conversion kit for the plastic ones that FW sells.

>>54644335
Book 3 - Extermination

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>>54644577
why do they have cool stuff like that for loyalists but not for traitors?

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>>54644310
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-DE/Cataphractii-Power-Axe-Upgrade-Set-2016

>>54644687
They only started doing that in book 2 or 3, so the four legions in book 1 got kinda left out. The EC have the least marking information of all, when they should arguably have the most.

>>54644775
They're wielding chain axes though

>>54645138
with power field generators, just how FW chose to model them on Cataphractii armour.

>>54645138
Cataphractii power axes have always been with chain blades.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-DE/Cataphractii-Power-Axe-Set

>>54645076
theyll never update it, will they?
sucks to play a legion that doesnt have any markings like the others

>>54645209
They'll get a mid/late Heresy markings page, kind of like how the Word Bearers got one in book 5 to supplement the info they got in book 2.

>>54644464
Daemons primary detachment for when I want to be the villain. (Used to play 40k chaos daemons, and I had since 5e. Prior I played Deathguard, Emperors Children and I had a Kroot army while that was a thing. Still have all the OOP Kroot models.)
Otherwise, I'm starting up a custard army, and I've got a pair of BAC painted up as blood angels, with the FW upgrade kits for the infantry and some kitbashes on the termies and praetors to BA them up. Have some unbuilt Rhinos and a Spartan too. (They're recasts, but there was some mold slippage I'm waiting on.)

It's 6 am, can't be arsed taking photos for now but The Haul tho (Different dude than the guy that did my miscast rhinos/spartan):
6x 5 Custodes squads
2x5 Sagittarum guard upgrade set
2x Caladius (both turrets.)
3x Coronus
2x Pallas
2x Galatus
1x Achillus
10x meltaguns
10x meltas of another pattern (these latter two are for guardian spear conversions.)

About 548 buckeroonies in total. But I doubt I'll have to make another purchase with this stuff.

I've been setting aside coffee money for a while, I'd intended to pick up an army for 8e when I was expecting 7e, but fixed. That's not happening. So I'm keeping my old 40k stuff to use in a local 4th ed group. Sorry if this post is inappropriate for 4chan. Haven't lurked long.

>>54636310
>regular human size handprint in the 'don't ax me pls' spot
For some reason that conveys a lot of fucked up feelings really well.

>>54644775

Well fuck. China it is

>>54645209
Also theres some markings stuff in book 4 if I remember right.

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>>54645138
Look up second ed Chaos Terminators. Powered Chainaxes have been a thing for a while now.

>>54645316
>Daemons
Gay unless book 8 makes them not 40k retarded.
>Custards
Still gay, but at least I don't see any jetbike spam bullshit there.
Inferno remains a mistake.

>>54645316
>>54645262
Well you didn't try to force a meme about youself, make bizarre, irrelevant boasts, or post photos of your guys thinking they looked great instead of looking like every other single Custodian ever posted in all of space time (except for that one guy with what must be colour blindness), so you're already ahead of the game where Custodian players in this general are concerned, 9/10, would read your posts again.

>>54645354
>regular human size handprint
That's not regular human size, it's way too small. That's child sized.

>>54648355
Or manlet size

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>>54640736
THE LEGEND CONTINUES
ULTRA AS FUCK.

>>54649335
But 30k marines are all manlets and their hands are too big.

>>54642866
>>54642901
If you want black metal why not just use VMA Black Metal? It's cheaper and higher quality than GW metallics.

>>54649817
Don't have an airbrush, for one thing, and I didn't know that that existed and couldn't be bothered to find out. I eventually got this working fine, but I'll keep that in mind if I do more Malinax at some point and really need to try some other paint makers. I buy Citadel for convenience's sake, and would rather not change methods halfway through a model.

>>54649899
I've heard of people using hand brushes with Vallejo Air paints.

>>54649899
VMA Metallics brush on perfectly fine they're just pre-thinned.

>>54649960
>>54649922

OK then. I'll add them to the long list of shit I should consider buying to make painting simpler. Surprised at how well my go came out honestly, considering how sodding annoying it was at times.

>>54608807
Why does the average 40kfag fellate Abnett so hard when McNeil is a vastly better writer then him?

>>54650760
>abnett

Not around here. We don't take kindly to him.

>>54650773
>We

>>54640941
If the Ultramarines had less victories than the Luna Wolves and Dark Angels but more compliances that means a greater number of planets the XIII encountered were peaceful and acquiescent. It's a mathematical fact. Not to downplay the Ultras, I quite like them.

>>54650778
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>>54650760
McNeill used to be better but he phones it in nowadays.

>>54650760
Matt Ward is the best

>>54650809
After the early HH stuff and ignoring Eisenhorn, Ravenor, and GG, almost all of Abnett's current stuff feels bland.

McNeil is great but besides him Swallow is pretty good, Anthony Reynolds is also great and I feel like it was a huge slight against him to be held back from writing the Word Bearers and Lorgar stuff for the HH series.

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Finally trying pinning.
I don't like how there are only MkII and MkIV Apothecaries, and how none are running but are in 'Look at me, I'm a cool guy' pose.
Need to wait for some other bits to come in, but so far he has a Seax, a bolt pistol, bolt rifle, narthecium with apothecary vials, and some random pouches to fill out the waistline.
Can decide if I want to use a MkVI helmet or a MkV.

>>54650843
>Swallow is pretty good
I disagree. I find Swallow's characters incredibly bland and generic. In Fear to Tread the Blood Angels are just generic space marines with no unique legion culture.

>>54646024
wasnt book 4 solar auxilia?

>>54650790
The ultra's brought the most into compliance in a "proper" way. They (as in the legion) made sure that the compliance's were enacted properly afterwards so you would be right in saying that the Ultramarines (legion) had the most compliances.

The Luna Wolves and Dark Angels did conquer the most worlds and their FLEETS brought more worlds into compliance. The Legion itself simply made the planet surrender.

I think there is a page in Betrayal that explains that for the 63rd Exp. Fleet, their solar axuilia and other human fighting forces were used mainly to mop up and establish control/government while the Legion went to fight elsewhere.

On another note though, in the 8th Ed Space Marines codex, just realized that they do refer to the XVI as Luna Wolves and not Sons of Horus. Also everyone is just "Excommunicate Traitoris", no specific level of traitor anymore.

>>54650790
>It's a mathematical fact.

Nope. You assume that each victory yields a planet but that's not certain at all.

>>54643856
Part of this will definitely be a learning curve, but then again, having a goal is a rather nice motivator.

Whatever the case though, the actual diorama will be later down the road. Army first, and then from there the diorama. May have to avoid doing any permanent basing for the models... I'll start posting army shit sooner than later though to help keep this general rolling.

>>54650915
They didn't come off that way at all to me.

>>54650858
>inbuilt chain tonfas

I know it's supposed to be narthecium but now I want this to be a thing for assaulty types.

>>54650843
Abnett is at his best when he's allowed to play around in his own personal sandbox and can focus on all the crazy little exceptions and minor wonders therein.

He's really not at his peak form when forced to write in a shared marco-scale world. And that period when Marketing was apparently making demands that BL releases prominently feature the brand new model releases only made things worse.

How big a deal is Sworn Brothers vs Fellow Warriors?

I'm trying to pick a legion and I want to ally some Mechanicum in.

>>54651218
Since you're the only person who has responded, do you think I should go full studly and use the MkV helmet or have a sharper appearance with the MkVI beakie helmet?
Anything I should add to the marine?

>>54618372
No, you should go read that again.

>>54650760
Or every black library author is shit

>>54651544
Mk5 helmet would look better. I like the pose of that model, looks very dynamic and realistic.

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Is this hand too small?

>>54655210
Possibly, it's a bit hard to tell from this angle though. You probably won't be able to tell when playing though and it will look better when painted.

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>>54650760
I dunno, McNeill writes the best battle scenes but his world-building and scene-setting aren't that great, and his characters tend to be more one-dimensional. Abnett always run out of pages, though. I guess McNeill's pacing is better.

My biggest issue with McNeill is that he throws in more sideplots than anyone else and often leaves them hanging. Like that girl in Mechanicum who had that book stolen under her nose - did anything ever come of that? It's been years.

>>54650915
But yes, James Swallow's characters are flat as fuck.

Reynolds is good, and other than the very end of Praetorian of Dorn I've liked John French's stuff. And Chris Wraight most of all.

>>54655210

Yes. Do a handswap with a Terminator hand, it's not too hard.

>>54650858
I vote for Mk V. That's looking great so far.

>>54651056
Add me to the "yes they were bland" list. Amit stood out, granted, but Raldoron and Azkaellon were barely distinguishable and Meros was generic nice guy #1.

>>54655319

Here's a better pic, and yea. I still need to finish cleaning/washing the combis yet

>>54655384

I'd rather not because these ones already have the hand in them, so I can use them for other models be sued magnets. Cutting the hand makes them more limited in the long run because I couldn't swap it for a combi melta for example.

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>>54655464
Fuck. Pic.

>>54655471
>>54655464
I think it looks okay from that angle.

>>54647378
Force a meme about myself? Bizarre, irrelevant boasts?

I think I've missed something.

>>54655413
Amit was the best part of that book. Everyone else, Sanguinius included, was rather boring. The Horus and Sanguinius flashback was nice however.

This is from a BA player also.

>>54655677
A few of the custodes players were pretty obnoxious with one guy self assigning a nickname that no one else called him, one guy constantly talking about owning 91 models and another talking about how big his collection was and how much money it cost.

>>54655373
>Like that girl in Mechanicum who had that book stolen under her nose - did anything ever come of that? It's been years.
Read Titannicus

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/01/warhammer-live-schedule-august-2nd-to-august-4th/

Tony Cottrell, head of FW will be on Warhammer TV tomorrow at 4PM. If anyone here is subscribed to it, try and see if you can ask him about when the new HH Rulebook is coming out and when Titanicus is coming out as well.

>>54655691
To be fair, I don't go off listing my Custodes. Two or three people asked and I answered...then people started calling me 91 Custodes anon

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Would black and white checks look out of place on Imperial Fists vehicles? I googled old Index Astartes images for inspiration and found this. The Fists could use a decorative symbol to break up their scheme a little but have the Dangles bogarted it?

>>54656203
Swallow your pride, accept your mistakes as a learning experience, and move on. Try to better yourself anon. Like just now, you brought up the 91 Custodes again. Just don't.

>>54656203
I was one of the people that originally mocked you but I didn't mean anything by it. It was just a bit of banter.
This >>54656236 poster is just being an asshole.

>>54656209
It being on his shoulder shield make it look more like part of a personal heraldry than something the legion as a whole used.

You could say that this commander has decided to incorporate his personal heraldry into his company/chapters for some reason. Maybe his personal rhino/land raider and bodyguard have the decoration.

>>54656209
might look a bit too like the Lamenters

>>54656302
It's cool. I don't mind it honestly.

Admittedly it did take a while to get used to but c'est la vie.

>>54656318
>>54656354
It would look a bit too much like the Lamenters now that I think about it. What would you recommended as an alternative design? For decorations the IF seem limited to
>symbol of cross or weapon
>vertical stripes
I suppose that's enough if you increase the visual interest with weathering.

>>54656394
Diamonds versuses checkered is a bit different and I think would look great

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>>54642172
>>54642733
Well, it's a fairly chunky bastard, but I don't think it's much bigger than a LR. While I don't have one on hand, I'd say they are roughly the same size without the turret.
Speaking of turrets, arachnus blaze turret made from a Razorback lascannon turret and Ironstrider lascannon barrels. Reasonable? The idea was to have it fairly slim and unobtrusive in relation to the rest of the model.
Also, not sure what to do about the three mini turrets over the entrances. Stick the Stormbolters on it and just ignore them?

>>54656714
The hull always looked good on the tank, just the turret is too busy. Nice work.

>>54656714
Looking at the Repulsor without all the guns looks pretty good. I feel like the default turret thing it has is to overloaded with shit. Something like just a predator autocannon would look great.

How do it size up to other vehicles. May end up getting a few for other vehicles

>>54656714
That actually looks really sexy when you strip all the random shit off of it. I'm a fan, even through I think the normal Repulsor looks terrible.
As for the door mounts, I would add some Guard/Mechanicus circular tank hatches if you have any, since they have a little bit on the top you could mount the stormbolter if you want. Feels like some kind of generator part would fit, to project the flare shield, but the only ones I can think of right now that might work are Corpuscarii Priest back generators. Either way, not parts most people have lying around.

Actually trying to work out how to make eight assorted Twin Weapon turrets of the same basic design - four twin lascannon, three twin autocannon and one twin missile launcher or Assault Cannon. Only have two Ironstriders, but I think that may be the answer for the side turrets if I can buy some more of those turrets. "Weapon blisters" on the side of an airship is the plan.

>>54656714
Nice to see my idea of using ironstrider lascannons on a razorback turret work. Does the turret ring take the turret as is, or do you need to do some fitting?

I've been thinking about the idea of putting the lasers on the hull mount and having the bolt cannons on a pintle-mount.

>>54657436
I've built a second turret ring out of plasticard inside the regular one to fit the razorback turret. It's fiddly but looks actually pretty good, since it causes the turret to be overall a bit lower than it usually would be.

>>54657543
It's a shame the command land raider isn't being sold regularly. The aquila cover for the hull heavy bolter would look good on that turret.

>>54657594
I've been considering putting a spare praesidium shield on top of that turret and a few other custodes bits here and there, but the original grav-rhino isn't terribly embellished, either.

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Nearly done. Anyone got a recommendation for the backside turret in the lower right? I put ammo-box lids on the other two and turned them into storage, but I don't have any more of those.

>>54612158
Scanon was the best thing that happened to HHG, how dare you ?

>>54657920
Some sort of light/sensor suite might work. What size is the mounting for them? Could you use those round Rhino hatch cover things (you put on the hole that doesn't have a cupola)? If they fit, one could put searchlights on the sides and a radar dish at the back, or something.

>>54658020
Radar dish might work. Though I wonder, would a backwards-facing radar even have any effect?
As for the rhino hatch cover things, I don't have any here to try it with. Size-wise it looks like it could fit, but I'm bad at judging this sort of thing.

>>54658712
>would a backwards-facing radar even have any effect?

At least you could signal all the troops behind you to get a move on.

As for the hatch, looking at the pictures the disk on top of the TL hull bolters seem to be the same piece (just moulded on).

>>54657920
>>54658020
>>54658712
A comma system is the obvious answer. They're Custodes, the unit dispersion is stupid on full campaigns, and the distances between units would warrant large attenae.