Warhammer 40.000 General /40kg/

Fixing codex content links atm

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First for Bullgryns

https://sendit.cloud/bgzf3vrxgm5f
codex pdf without working links, someone is fixing them

https://sendit.cloud/bgzf3vrxgm5f Rough and Dirty (Contents broken, No Bookmarks, some bad cropping) PDF SM codex.

>>54604322
Shouldn't you wait for a non-mangled version? There is some bad cropping on the one anon provided.

>>54604338
Oh fuck, hadn't noticed
Halfway through tho so could finish it for now and we'll see when we get a well cropped one

A lot of shit was added: Was anything of significance CHANGED besides any slight point value adjustments?

So far I've seen that Techmarines lost their Conversion beamers

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>Pedro costs more than Lysander despite being stuck in footslogger armor

the fuck?

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Do Primaris marines have an American accent?

>>54604359
Yeah, they all sound like Harrison Ford.

>>54604354

>lost

Too many people don't read the FAQs. If its in the Index, they can still take it.

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Finally getting around to going through the Indexes for factions other than my own, the Eversor Assassin looks like a steal; for 70 points you can keep your opponents back line in a constant state of dread waiting for the turn you put him down 9 inches away, charge and fire off 8 attacks (and the 4 pistol shots prior). Seems like it'd easily make its points back tearing up heavy weapons squads and fragile characters.

Which bait topics of mine do you rate highest?

Brexitposting.

Average of 2d3 is 3.

Imperial vs metric.

Beaten by leaked codex.

FW is p2w.

Orks are WAACfags.

>>54604359
I like the shiny eye.
I detest your constant copy-post.

>>54604359
American's don't have a accent, its the world wide default

>>54604349
Converter Anon here, Sorry for the botched job, working on fixing it now. I was rushing it out.

>>54604354
read the faq

basically the codex only includes stuff you can currently buy from the GW lines, but you can still field older stuff from the index just fine.

Silly question maybe but, to take the SM from surface to ship and vice versa they use thunderhawks. What do they use to take guardsmen?

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>>54604366
But it's only the second time I've posted it :x

>>54604364
none of them, play violin with your wrists

>>54604325
>>54604320
>>54604316
Ah that's good, I had also converted one of my dreadnaughts to have twin linked heavy bolters so it seems like they're really not a fan of individual armies.

>>54604377
Bigass landers

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How did I do?

>>54604363
Until you fail your charge 60% of the time and die to shooting.

>>54604354
If GW doesn't sell a model of it it's gone, no Moondraken, power weapons other than swords or Jump packs on guys

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Current WIP.

Waiting on these things to dry before primer.

The fucking repair of parts and then blending in to the plastic chasis was a fucking pain in the ass.

>>54604392
Add some highlighting and details and it'll look great

>>54604377
Thunderhawks, valkyries. Other larger noncombat dropships. Teleporters and shit sometimes.

>>54604392

The Grapes of Wrath chapter, huh?

>>54604368
>>54604338
Haven't gone through the entire codex yet, how many pages are mangled?
If just a few, I believe I could replace those pages once you've gotten the new version and told me which pages were edited

>>54604377

Landers. They're basically the size of a typical space frigate or ferry, designed to transport and land entire detachments.

>>54604393
He gets 3d6 on the the charge though.

Does the new SM codex address what happened to the giant waaagh heading for Deliverance?

>>54604423
1. Download Codex SM
2. Ctrl+F
3. Type 'Deliverance'
4. Press enter

>>54604399

Why are these wet in the first place?

Can I get some opinions on a mech chaos list? I've always wanted a dark mechanicus type thing. Now that FW has given us a hellwright, I feel like I should just jump and give it a go.

I'm thinking stuff like the hellwright, decimators with soulburner petards for stronk single models like girlyman and delicious auto mortal wounds, hellforged leviathan dreads with grav-flux bombards for anti horde, and I'm not too sure what else.

Does it seem playable, or am I just being too optimistic?

>UK/World + EU Chaos is continue gaining ground
>America Chaos is still shrinking

USA, you fucks. Get your shit together.

>>54604407
Almost every page has some of it's border missing

>>54604393
>>54604417

He makes his charge 75% of the time

>>54604437
Sounds good. Bring abby and some cultists to round off the list.

>>54604443
Ouch, I'll just finish linking this version and I'll get to the new one eventually
Links > borders imo

>>54604447
Seems like pretty good odds to me, especially if you're willing to burn a CP if necessary. I think I'll add one to my force and give it a try.

What are peoples thoughts on the aggressor and reiver options?
Auto hits vs higher # of shots and Extra cc vs Guns?

>>54604423
Maybe

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If I wanted to make a primaris chapter that Cawl secretly made out of Alpha Legion Geneseed, what kind of color scheme should I use?

>>54604484

scheming scheme

>>54604484
Ultramarines blue

>>54604469
The Boltstorm option + Fragstorm seems better to me for Aggressors; the flamers only really pull ahead on overwatch, but theres so many things that can charge from out of their range in practice that some games they're going to be wasted entirely. The bolter ones you can at least set down somewhere and blast away until charged.

Reivers I think the knife is better, but the carbine could be alright if you're just looking at objective grabbing and general harrasment.

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>>54604484
Red and Black

Deep striking is OP as fuck.

Enemy Assault Terminators teleport next to my warlord and tanks. Makes 8" charge with double 4s. Lost my lord commissar and leman russ after my opponent spent a command point to make me reroll the only 6+ save I made.

It's fucking bullshit it is.

>>54604467

I'll be playing GSC so I don't need (Or can take) him....but if I played Imperium I'd put one in every list. He'll easily make his points back each game and will terrorize your opponent.

>>54604521
Nobody is falling for that at this point m80. Nice try though.

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>>54604521
>after my opponent spent a command point to make me reroll the only 6+ save I made.

>>54604521
>8" charge
But that's wrong.

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Novamarines, Howling Griffons or Minotaurs? Can't decide.

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>>54604539
You know what to do

>>54604539
Minotaurs and thin your paint.

>>54604539
Middle one

>>54604441
Only 3 days for you to take back another approximate 3rd to make it equal.

Considering day 1 it was close to 90% imperial and ground regained has not that been much in 4 days it may be difficult.

>>54604358
>crimson fist is tactically versatile
>imperial fist is good for one thing, beating stuff up
So that's why the iron warriors hated us

>>54604441
A modern military force appeals to the US audience because we actually have one. So the imperium is big here.

Magic and witches and she turned me into a newt bullshit appeals to the rest of the world because you are all backwards bumpkins and think some angry god makes thunder. So chaos.

>>54604521
All the horseshit in your post aside, a guard player should be able to easily afford plenty of infantry squads to surround his important shit enough that deep-charging it become impossible

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>>54604539
Because posted right before thread got archived

>>54604539
novamarines

>>54604539
Howling Griffons if you're up to it.

Anyone got a epub or pdf of shroud of night yet?

Exams sucked me into study and I couldnt follow the 8th edition developments

Suggestions for a dreadnought army?

>>54604383
>twin heavy bolters
But they don't have a model despite being the default

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>>54604580
Contemptors Mortii
Deredeos
Leviathans

>>54604580
Blood Angels get a HQ Dreadnought, so that could be fun. Could always build around one of their successors if you don't care for the original.

>>54604392
Meh/10
Put a red wash in the eyes
Repainted the hand
Put white light or blue on the buttons on the details on the right hand

>>54604601
>>54604593
How are Black Templars now for a dreadnought army?

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When deep-striking near elevated models, which of these do you use to determine being more than 9" away?
And then do you use the same for charging?

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I would cry but I have no tears left

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>>54604580
>>54604593
Also, Ultramarines count-as?
Can't keep your dreads stuck in melee

>>54604608
See pic, I guess it'd help but Ultrasmurfs or even Raven Guard would work better imo

>>54604611
i measure direct line base to base

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I've just bought the Dark Imperium set and I'm thinking of painting the Primaris as Mentors. Fluff wise, they're normally working with some kind of Imperial unit so they can get that tactical expertise or something.

Question is, who should accompany my Mentors? Stormtroopers? Sisters of Battle? Imperial Knights? The everyday Conscript?

What would you recommend tg?

Genestealer Cult or Broamander marines?

>>54604613
Hmm I was trolling a few weeks ago when I'd said they'd rewritten that to be stalemate rather than Iron Warriors win.

Lmao

>>54604613

fucking ward

>>54604622
>Righteous zeal
Holy fuck a dread charge with BTs must be terrifying

>>54604637
stormtroopers
teach them the alpha-strike tactics

>>54604539
How do you archive such neat lines? Blue over get's absorbed so much...

>>54604645
Well, depends what you're playing
Pretty sure ultrasmurf leviathans would be worse
Only way to stop it is to kill it

To do chipping weathering with a sponge what colors would you use on a base of olive drab?
Black and metal or dark grey and metal?

>>54604580
I made a 1500 point list I used yesterday
Chaplain
2 standard dreads
venerable
derdeo
leviathan
siege dreadnought

I lost but I came close to tabling the other guy, if it wasn't for invincible wulfen

>>54604645
>>54604670
Full heavy flamer Ultramarine dreads sound fun

>>54604434
had to wash off the plastic/resin dust leftover.

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>>54604672
Go with a dark brown. Use something like Rhinox Hide and then whatever metal you please. Highlight the chips with the highlight colour of whatever it is you're chipping.

>>54604399
Where do you get all your Jap modelling stuff?

Why did E-money create Primarchs that were powerful enough to kill him and be easily corrupted by Chaos?

Wouldn't just creating the SM have been enough?

>>54604703
Thanks anon

Ultras or Ravenguard - who is better ?

>>54604709
Because Space muhrines are even more weakminded than the Primarchs

>>54604322
Fuckfuckfuck
Fixed all links but it doesn't switch to the new page zoomed-to-fit but super zoomed in
Sec, trying to fix but if it takes forever I'll just wait for better cropped version

>>54604716

>Mary Sue or Edgy Sperglord - who is better ?

fix'd

>>54604716
Generally? Ultras, taking everything into account.

For some Alpha strike bullshit niche lists? Raven Guard.

>>54604611
Pretty sure it's 9" in direct distance, not movement distance.

This got me thinking: Reivers and grapnel launchers.

Lets say I deep strike them (or enter them 6" from a table edge) and the enemy is, say, on top of a building. Now, physically the distance between the models can be 9", but lets say the building is 5" tall. So I just need to place the Reivers a few inches away from the building for there to be 9" between them and the enemy. The grapnel launchers make Reivers ignore vertical distance. So all they'd have to assault is the distance to the building (and how ever many inches the enemy was away from the building edge).

Is this correct or am I missing something?

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>>54604655
It's decided then. Should I just go for basic troop transport in a Taurox or do I go full tacti-cool and have them drop from a Valkyrie?

>>54604665
I think I went cream over blue with that guy, just start with the line and be very careful

>>54604733
Can you use strategem of ravenguard to deploy a unit after the roll who starts ? If so you can deploy agressors with 12d6 s4 hits on enemy shooty unit

>>54604709
For all his faults, no one could accuse Emps of thinking small

>>54604733
Don't disregard RG's benefits to a far back shooty list.

Quick this is important for a conversion who was that fat fuck on the throne from ogre kingdoms and where to get him

>>54604743
Oh wait, just read their rules, never mind. Feel like an idiot now.

Should Primarines have been their own codex?
Maybe have an astartes civil war?Again

>>54604788
I wish they had been. I'm in the process of starting an all primaris collection and I hate to have to leaf through so much irrelevant shit in the codex.

>>54604788
Seeing as gw doesn't want to portray Abaddon as anything but a ponse chaos looks pretty weak so maybe a civil war could be a credable threat...

>>54604709
Because he's lazy.

He created each one with a facet of himself to do all of the jobs only he could do, but instead of creating a second emperor he created weaker versions that could only do one thing. Magnus to sit on the throne, Robute to do the politicing, Sangy to model hair care products, etc.

>>54604807
Fulgrim to suck the dicks

>>54604788
They should have been just normal SM in a new armour type that happen to be upscaled. The whole Primaris plot is dumb and I'd actually rather have tem releasing upscaled Devastor, Scout, Tactical and Assault marines than the new Primaris types.

Is the Sector Imperialis 90mm base a flyer base?

>>54604803
Abaddon can never really feel like a credible threat again. Could change if they did something drastic like let Huron take over as boss, would be interesting to see how the 10k old CSM take the change.

>>54604367
I hope you're joking

>>54604315
Now this is an informative thread image!
Thanks, anon!

>>54604534
>deppstroke 9" away
>charge 8
>pile in 1
>now within one inch of enemy so can strike

>>54604828
Welcome to me three months ago. I almost ragequit from rage.

>>54604799

>Irrelevant shit

You mean conversion fodder?

>>54604840
you need to roll a 9, read the FAQ

>>54604788
Primaris shoudl've never existed. GW needed to update the SM, this is true, but to asspull a whole new SM subfaction rife with terrible writing to make regular Astartes outdated even from a fluff standpoint is fucking retarded. They could've still created the new Primaris models but it would've just been an update and they wouldn't have added so much bloat to the fluff.

How difficult is it to just say "Guilliman declare the Indomitus Crusade and boosted all available planets for war, drastically increasing the recruitment rate of all Astartes to replenish numbers" ? Instead they had a no-name mary sue plagiarist cobble together Super-marines out of nowhere from stolen tech.

You could've still sold kits wholesale. Why make them?

>reading new codex
>raven guard shoulder trim colors got retconned
well, my jimmies have been rustled

>>54604315
>buy some forgeworld thing from ebay
>no way this is actually genuine it was too cheap, about at much as a recast+postage
>get it, strip paint off
>actual forgeworld resin underneath
wasn't expecting that tbqh

>>54604840
When you deep strike, you have to be MORE than 9" away
So you're 9.00001" away, meaning an 8" charge won't make it in.
This was in the last FAQ because of this crap

Anyone has a GW pdf?

>>54604828

Yeah that's the thing: If this conspiracy theory about replacements holds true, say goodbye to Devastators, Assault Marines, Bikers, Terminators, Land Speeders, Rhinos, Rhino-based tanks, Land Raiders and most types of Dreadnought.

>>54604862
WD*

>>54604835
How to make abbadon credible 101
> have him kill a primarch
Mind Blown
Plus when you give him his 13th crusade dont make the story about man x eldar love and let him win with some bs "i threw a rock at the planet" then go home failing to reach Sol AGAIN.

>>54604865
What conspiracy theory?

>>54604828
That actually WOULD have squatted the existing marines though. With Primaris they're just an alternate option.

>>54604865
>say goodbye

More like say hello to 30k.

>>54604873
This would require GW to kill off a major character, which is impossible.

>>54604894
Yeah I liked the end times up until AOS...

>>54604841
What else do you ragequit from?

>>54604888
As much as previous Marine incarnations were squatted. They could have supported the old kits for one year alongside the new ones before taking them out of print.

>>54604888
Except who the fuck is going to buy regular marines now with highly-detailed truescale options being available?

>>54604852
Some mom selling her heartdiseased son's "toys"

>Checking the new dex to see how much the retcon Templar lore
>Emps is god
>We now love our psykers
BT lore has been fucked in every new dex sense Codex Armageddon.
I dont even know if I am angry or not at the new psyker love.

>>54604329
youre a big guy

>>54604875

The idea that GW are going to flush their best selling faction because they made primarines, rather than them just being so detached they can't grasp how much Primarines cheapen old marines just by existing and come across cheap themselves by drawing attention to that.

Wish someone would throw a magnet at a tech-priest

>>54604807
But if you created an exact equal then you'll definetly have civil war
>>54604709
Horus needed to be blessed by the gods to deal a mortal blow to th emperor
He made them as generals and then would kill them all off after the great crusade when it was men and mere men

>>54604934
>We now love our psykers
What?
Page number?

>>54604915

Because as everyone with half a brain has been saying for years, Truescale is anything but?

>>54604915
At the moment, theres still plenty of reason for both. You'll notice that none of the Primaris Marines quite occupy the same niches as the old marinelets, with the possible exception of Intercessors and Tac Squads, and even they have some pretty big differences in play. So at the moment there are still plenty of reasons to buy a Devastator Squad, or a Vet Assault Squad, etc

If/when they do a Primaris unit that legitimately replaces them though, thats when Marinelets are gone for good.

I actually like it as it is now, where theres a mix.

>>54604894
>impossible.

I dunno, man, flipping through old codexes, I see a lot of characters that aren't with us anymore...

>>54604539

Howling griffons > Novamarines >Minotaurs

>>54604934
nice work making up shit, they aren't able to take pyskers retard.

>>54604915
Yeah but at least you can still use your old guys

>>54604779
Greasus Goldtoof

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>>54604521
Buy infantry you assmad retard.

>>54604842
Hrs baiting about manlet marines >>54604846
>>54604857
Faq says 9 is within 9 and more than 9, same with 'within 1'

>>54604611
For deep strike: the green line is the only correct answer. For charging: the red line Anyone who disagrees with that is a fucking moron.

>>54604945
>>54604958
Outsiders mistakenly interpret the lack of Librarians within the
ranks of the Black Templars Chapter, and the fury with which
its battle-brothers slay Chaos Sorcerers, as an intolerance of all
psykers. This is not the case; though the Black Templars do not
traditionally number psykers amongst their ranks, they hold
special reverence for Astropaths, seeing them as holy disciples
who have actually communed with the Emperor. Navigators
are similarly honoured, for their psychic blessing allows them
to see the divine light of the Astronomican and guide the Black
Templars through the warp to deliver righteous retribution
against the Emperor’s enemies.
Page 45.

No we cant take Libs... yet... But we clearly love our filthy Astropaths now.

>>54604974
Q: A number of abilities allow a unit to arrive during the battle
and be set up more than 9" from any enemy models. If I use
such an ability to set up as close as allowed towards an enemy
unit and then select it as the target of the charge, what is the
minimum charge distance I need to roll to make a successful
charge (assuming no modifiers)?
A: 9.

>9 includes more than 9
no

If I wanted to make chaos chosen the size of custodies how would I do that

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So my friend is running the following Guard army:

3 Vendettas
3 Basilisks
3 50 man conscripts squads
Officer of the fleet
Some officer HQ
Commisar lord.
And a knight paladin
and it's painfully powerful, any tips on how to deal with this shit as chaos? The Vendettas utterly wreck anything in a salvo with those 16 las cannons.

>>54604974
>9 is more than 9

Let's just think about this for a moment

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>every time I visit GW website, it takes me to a random country's version

what the fuck is going on

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>>54604976
Well just fuck all lore I guess

>>54604987
Your ISP probably uses dynamic IP

>>54604985
Khorne berzerkers in rhinos, with kharn or barebones chaos lord in each squad

>>54604999
Nerd

>>54604974

>Hrs baiting about manlet marines

Well yeah, but you can still improve the versatility of an all-primaris army by converting shit to count as regular marine units.

>>54604850
Primaris are what got me back to 40K so thay did something good ...

>>54604976
>>54604990
...so how did they travel and communicate before? Especially as the eternal crusade chapter?

>>54604987
It's because that's how google remembers that page, also you sure you not using VPN

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>>54605005

>>54604976
Also
If the Emperor decides to once again bless the Black
Templars with Librarians, they will embrace it, but until that
day, they will wage battle without these powerful warriors at
their side.
BT LIBS ARE COMING
Just fucking kill me now.

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>>54604559
But Utah isn't in Europe, anon.

I mean we had some religious fanatics once, but they kind of shipped of overseas somewhere and founded a whole country for religious nutcases... now what was that called again?

>>54604987

It's been like that since the website relaunched a few years ago.
The relaunch that cost 2mil, didn't transfer old customer records and was contracted out to Kirbys wife.

> A website for a GW sized company is usually ~100k

>>54605001
Kharne costs two Lords with power claws so if you have two berserkers I'd go with Lords if not kharne

>>54605009
With Autistic Screeching, what else did you think

>>54605009
>Allowing and using navigation is the same as revering and loving them

>>54605017
>2 million
>lost all the old shit
Kirby was the shitty CEO we had before Rountree right
>old customer records
Why is that important, I'm more pissed the old hobby articles got deleted, good thing I printed them off 6 years ago

>>54604559
>Imperium
>modern military

I could say something about a bunch of religious nutjobs led by a golden God-Emperor with a problem with aliens, but I'll just allude to it.

>>54605019
Yeah but he'll kill any conscript squad, and the attack twice means you can assault two units per turn

>>54605009
Depends on what Dex lore your looking at.
Old BT dex hinted at that they might have some Astros hidden away, or that they had some weird ass pre old night tech, much hush hush anyhow.
In newer dexes and in The Beast arises, they are on the ship but just barley tolerated.
Now we just love em.

>>54604725
Man GW doesn't put any effort into making the epubs clean, they are fucked up beyond the "borders" you can't see. It means when you export to PDF you get a whole bunch of junk data, which makes cropping the white borders harder.

Anyway, here is the SM Codex PDF in less crop mangled form https://sendit.cloud/nf3qsclbp738

>>54605044
Are you disabled?

>>54605057
Thanks for your service, trooper!

>>54605030
>>54605047

honestly sounds more like them patching a lore hole than anything, if the biggest crusading chapter was somehow getting by with handwaved explanations like that

So is it correct to assume that the bolters with a sight that were included in the Dark Imperium box are actually Stalker Bolters? While the others are the common one, and the Lieutenant without helmet is carrying the Assault variant?

>>54605057
Thanks anon; if no-one's fixed links by tomorrow I'll redo it
I know what I did wrong but doing it right will take even longer and I've already spent enough time trying to make it work today

>>54604941
I don't think that's true. He may have planned on culling the astartes, but he had rooms for the primarchs in the Imperial palace.

>>54605084
Yes.

>>54604959
You can always use your old guys. My friend still regularly plays with his 2nd edition Tyranids for fuck sake.

>>54605063
What do you mean, did you want me to explicitly state 'blood for the blood god: this unit can fight twice per turn'

Can I still take heavy flamer razorback? It's in the index not the codex

>>54605084

Was there not a Stalker bolter leaked in the upcoming White Dwarf?

>>54605101
No. If GW don't make models for it you can't use it anymore.

>>54605096
Look at Kharnes attacks then look at the size of a consccript unit and then exolain to me how he is going to kill two of the fuckers.

>>54604835
You know a anon is a total moron when he mentions Huron as something noteworthy. Come on mention any Black Crusade in his name. What has he done that's noteworthy? Nothing. Literally nothing.

Abaddon created the Great Rift and split the galaxy causing an amount of destruction unless since the War in Heaven. He is the man who ended the Third Tyrannic War.

What has Huron did in the time of the Ending? Get defeated by the White Scars and maybe kill their chapter master.

>>54605089
He had room for Magnus to pilot the golden throne to protect the webway, psykers would be bred rather than battery farmed in the astronomicon, non psykers would slowly be culled including naviagators
The emperor was such a Eldarboo it's not a suprise Guilliman shagged the bitch

>>54605090
great, thanks.

>>54604315
Why does it keep referring to the Codex Astartes being written and the Scouring and shit as "over eight thousand years ago." Shit happened in M31 and it's M41, it was about 10k years ago. "over 8000" isn't technically wrong but it really tickles my autism.

>>54605101
Yes you can, but you use points for the most recent expansion, this is why points are all together now

>>54605076
Maybe, problem is just that they are "patching" BT lore just a little too much, you cant go a dex change w/o BT lore getting more and more fucked over.

>>54605114
He was gifted Black Stone fortress.

>>54604354
Captains lost artificer armor

>>54605106
In fact owning a model converted or old enough when your contractially obligated to burn it

>>54605101
Yes; if it's in the Index it's kosher; the Codex just contains the models GW currently provide.

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>>54604359

>listen to a Catachan audiobook
>they have british accents

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54605125
WHAT, EIGHT THOUSAND?!

There's no way that can be right.

>>54605133
They lost it in the move from 7th to the Index

>>54604641
Salamanders
>amazing rules
GSC
>everything overcosted to the warp and back
Should be pretty obvious desu

>>54605130
Retail award get screwed over Valkyrie there about Necron Horror Story getting text every time there's a new edition that's really rude

>>54605143
>British game made by british company and pretty much most if not all voices they have in any media is british
>surprised

>>54604613
>>54604644
That's been the case since Index Astartes before Ward. I get not everyone gets to be as autistic as I am, but a lot of you wouldn't know a real retcon if it slapped you in the face.

>>54605090
>>54605084
No.

Stalker bolt rifle have a bigger scope and a straight magazine (see Primaris captain), regular bolt rifle has a curved magazine and no scope or a small scope. Auto bolt rifle has no scope, a much bigger cylinder (whatever that's suppose to be) on top of the ejection port and a drum magazine.

Quite frankly, I don't give a shit. As long as you're consistent with the style. Like if you want to use bolt rifles with scopes as stalkers, then make sure all stalkers are the same and no bolt rifle or auto bolt rifle has both a curved mag and a scope.

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>>54604315
I've been away for a while. Has things gotten worse or better?

>>54605168
Yes

>>54605168
Depends on your starsign

>>54605168
Yes

i just bought my first 40k minis today and got a bunch of paints, but noticed my imperial primer after shaking was just filled with bubbles and the actual paint part was a rubbery lump sitting in the middle of the pot. is this a case of getting a bad batch or do i need to sit there and stir and break it up.

>>54605112
Grenade kills 2
Kills 5 with gorechild
That's 7
He has 6 wounds so conscripts will probably take 2 or 3 off
Kills another 5 with gorechild
That's 12
Enemy has lost 12 models, 12+3 is 15, so that's almost half gone in one turn alone

>>54604852
a guy at my store got an event only krieg quartermaster NIB for 8€
still don't know how it ended up that cheap on ebay

Stop messing with me niggas. What is alpharius email?

>>54605152
Huh, I guess I didn't notice, though to be honest I didn't play much attention to the Indices because I knew they were going to irrelevant in a matter of months. I was also peeved flipping through that generic Chapter Master is now an extensive strategem that just gives a tiny upgrade to your captain, rather than a unit can just take like it should be. Also, then relics not having point values is dumb as shit because some are definitely better than others.

Lets continue to talk about Huron.

Huron recently was revealed to be slowly changing into a daemon prince against his will, He used rituals and machines to combat the change in his body because the Chaos Gods would grant him daemonhood BUT will take away his mind rendering him a mindless beast. Ultimate power but not the wit to use it. He had to undercover an Old One device to remove the taint of Chaos from his body and save himself from the fate that the Chaos Gods wanted for him. And then he went back to the Chaos Gods since he went insane(er) by the end of it.

Abaddon is undergoing a similar ordeal in the second book of the Black Legion series. The Chaos Gods want to force their chains in the form of gifts andd want him to accept daemonhood. Khayon can see the pressure the Chaos Gods are putting on Abaddon and he fears that Abaddon's mortal coil will noy withstand but he does. For 10K years Abaddon withstood the attetion of the Chaos Gods, maintaining his humanity and freewill. Huron cracked in a few hundreds of years. Abaddon continues on because he has something that Huron doesn't have GUTS.

Also now Huron works for Abaddon.

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>>54605176
Maybe I should be less vague.
>>54605180
>>54605181
Well what's the general consensus?

>>54605125
40 days and 40 nights is Hebrew for a long time
80,000 is a multiple of 40 thus meaning a time beyond mortal comprehension

>>54605168
in what regard ?

>>54605184
Cewl what about the other 25?

>>54605182
Shake it very hard for about 20-30 seconds, if that doesnt work break it up a bit and repeat.

>>54604531
I wanted to agree with you.
But we were both proven wrong.
I still want you to have your (You) though.

>>54605143
>implying the new Zealand spec ops deployed in Vietnam didn't stop the Tet offensive in its tracks

>>54605199
Do conscripts take morale damage from getting killed a lot?

>>54605193
One side view Internet so late around rats really rude and then the other side as I guess we don't mind this is a great and then you DW is late beautiful and amazing but I might cry sometimes old grimdark this is anime & Noble and you know what to say but you're not in today by the way I'm using text to speech so if the sounds of it all for that's probably why

>>54605166
>stopping the legion from destroying themselves
That's new because it implies there was more than a skeleton crew in the iron cage WHICH THE IMPERIAL FISTS STILL LOST AGAINST DDD

>>54605208
Not if you have obligitory commisar

>>54605208
Only if you are dumb enuf to not put a commissar right next to them.
Commissars reduce morale losses to one model.

>>54605191
*Abaddon continues on because he has something that Huron doesn't have : daddy issues.
there i fixed it for you

>>54605167
Gotcha, makes sense.
Thanks

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>>54605197
Lore-wise. I'm willing to pay in memes for answers.
>>54605209
Oh okay.

>>54605168
Better.

>>54605213
Index Astartes II says that Guilliman intervened because he didn't want to lose Dorn, which implies his destruction.
And even if you want argue it doesn't, anons were also fussing over this exact thing when it showed up in Codex Space Marines 6e.

>>54605131
Because Abaddon liked what he did in the Bedab War and taking over of the Maelstorm. It's just bad writing to get rid of the Blackstone Fortress.

Previous lore has Abaddon being hostile to Huron being he won't kneel to Abaddon. Now Huron knelt because of a glorified space fort.

So why can't a Gravis captain take a... Whatever the jump packs Inceptors wear is called.

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Which paintjob looks better, left or right?

Left is painted with brushes, right is spray-painted.

>>54605187
[email protected]

>>54605191
>Huron works for abbadon
But the whole point was they were polar opposites, one was legion building under the high lords nose and the other was struggling to kill some purple eyed backwater savages

>>54605242
What about corn the betrayer

anyone know what voice the emperor uses in Emperor TTS?

>>54605143
How else did you expect the space SAS to sound? It was that or Australian or Kiwi.

Which chapter is best for a Codex terminator army? Would a Deathwing army still outperform said chapter with termies?
Also, what would be a good chapter in terms of fluff?

>>54605199
He'll kill 5 if average or 10 if lucky next turn, but why is Khan not following the berserkers he was transported with

>>54605247
Right is right and left isn't right

>>54604359
And they shall know no feah, but feah itself!

>>54605250
>Struggling

Cadia is ded.
>inb4 12 times

And Huron fanboys shouldn't throw stones. The best Huron ever done was stealing a ship from the space wolves. There is literally noting impressive about Huron.

>>54605247
I can't see shit with that lighting

>>54605267
>Boston accent
>American
Paddy please.

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>>54605241
Each other is the added thing

>>54605247
>right is spray-painted

Not it's not. It's basecoated and shaded with and airbrush, then painted with a brush. The lines are painted with oil washes and the weathering was done with dry pigments.

So yeah, the right one.

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>>54605247
I like the left better.

>>54605264
Because that wasn't the question was it? You asked kharne vs lords. Personally I run two lord+berzerker combos and one kharne+chosen

>>54605247
for 40k, left fits best, for world of warcraft right fits best

>>54605247
>spray painted

Fucking newfags.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsqDx0GResc

>>54605200
what consistency is it meant to be? at the moment its still lump as fuck and looks really aerated or with heaps of little tiny chunks in it. ive got a feeling this batch is just a shit batch.

>>54605254
Left the Black Crusade. Joined the Blood Crusade and then left. Joined a Khornate force to hunt down Celestine. Chased and terrorized a group of alpha legion guys for hours before finding Celestine and clamming her skull,

That's all we know about Kharn o far.

>>54605278
Added in 6e sure. But definitely not in this edition.

>>54605229
>Lore-wise

Its okay. Lots of people salty about the Primaris and all that surrounds it (mostly Cawl I think) but while its not perfect its not terrible either, and I think the fact that they're at least trying to move the metaplot along a bit is a good thing.

Bobby G coming back probably heralds a series of primarch returns which I expect to dominate the upcoming years, both in game and fluff terms. Probably the biggest problem is that the xenos are going to get pushed aside real hard unless they are going to give them something to stay relevant.

>>54605294
Next video 1080 PT Battle Report screeee [autism joke]

>>54605229
lore wise : welp the imperium is at a low point , but with the ressurection of rowboat and the subsequent indomitus crusade it also has the brightest future ahead of it in millennia, where before there was only a slow decline and a rotting empire competent leadership has restored a future for the imperium
this was also made possible thanks to "deus ex machina" cawl , whether you're annoyed by that as some people are or excited cause the mechanicum is getting shit done is up to you
on the eastern fringes of the galaxy the t(')au and necrons have expanded quite a bit in what i dare say is a smart move by gw so they don't have to keep shitting out novels where imperials forget how to brain because otherwise they'dd be wiped of the map, hopefully the xenos will get some screentime and worldbuilding done there in future codexes/novels
the galaxy is torn in half by the warp rift and contact between both sides is supposed to be hard but so far it for some reason hasn't been a problem for anyone

Can anyone share a White Dwarf scan or pdf?

>>54605246

Can you imagine trying to fight in close combat with a jump pack that's attached to your neck instead of your back? That's unweildy as shit.

>>54605261

Microsoft Sam/Mike

>>54605298
The bitch is dead? The wicked bitch of the west (side)?

>>54605271
>steal a ship
IN THW COMMENT YOU REPLY TO I SHOWED WHY HE SHOULD BE FEARED HE LEGION BUILDED HE HAD FUCKING MARKS TWO AND FOUR ARMIES WHEN OTHER CHAOTERS ONLY HAVW FIVE RELIX SUITS

>>54605310
Now imagine the relief of finding out that it's not attached to your neck but is attached to your armour instead.

>>54605324
go get some fresh air

>>54604315
What weapons should I put on my Tech Priest Dominus? I'm not gonna bother to magnetize him.

First impression says Eradication Array and Phosphor Serpenta.

>>54605301
>first page of 8th ed brb the intro
>"FORGET THE POWER OF TECNOLOGY
>continue reading
>The power of technology saved the Imperium and it will prove instrumental in ending the threat of Chaos

>The Age of the false demigods are over. It's time for Born and Neverborn to decide the fate of all
> LOL THE PRIMARCHS ARE BACK

Not even AoS raped WHFB's lore this brazenly

>>54605307
>What is MEGA?

Sofa thunderhawks transport Marines to the surface what transports guardsman

>>54605288
Oh no I meant an army of just berserkers in rhinos with Kharn or a chaos lord, because you can only have 1 kharn unit per army

>>54604392

Like you covered the default, blue plastic in black wash, painted the gun grey, the metal parts metal then called it a day without adding any highlights or secondary colours.

Lazy/10

>>54605305
.....I don't get it

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>>54605296
Pic related, surely this batch is fucked.

>>54605324
Everyone can build a massive warband. It's not impressive. Abaddon Black Legion dwarfs his little warband many times over.

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>>54605301
>>54605306
Oh. Thanks guys. I should have figured the Xenos would get less screentime.

>>54605296
Go to the store and ask for a demo
>>54605299
Still bullshit, most of us skipped 6th anyway

>>54604539

Thin your paints, holy fuck.

>it's a "you drop the Nuln oil and it spills all over the desk" episode

>>54605367
RIP in pieces famalam

>>54605347
It's not there.

>>54605350
Like I said use one chosen with kharne and the rest berserkers + Lord if you can only have one Berserker unit then put kharne there instead.

>>54605185
I literally payed half price for something that would have cost me $140 + whatever insane international shipping FW is going these days. I think buyers remorse is a powerful source of cheap things.

>>54605373
It's literally the first fucking MEGA
I hope you're embarrassed now

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>>54605341
It's GW. If they didn't screw something up would they still be themselves?

>>54605331

That's some cute semantics, but I'm talking about the awkward positioning not it literally being strapped to a bare neck.

>>54605341
Yes but the common man has seen no increase in quality m
>>54605356
Abbadon gets PTSD kids from other war bands after killing their leader, Huron did it whilst being paid for it and taxing extra tax on shipping
>>54605374
Why are you using chosen, an extra round of melee is better than +1 leadership and boys are better than toys this edition

>>54605386
August 2017 do you speak it?

>>54605247
The one on the left looks fucking terrible and just dull. The right one is so much more full of life and character

>>54605355
That's just imperial primer for you, just get chaos black spray one.

>>54605306
>necrons have expanded quite a bit

Its the same size it was before the Rift began and the Necrons have entered into a civil war instead of using the confusion of the living to wipe them out, If Imotekh wishes it, he could wipe out Ultramar while they are being distracted with the plague fleets.

But nooooo....He is busy attacking and forcefully assimilating awakening Necron tomb worlds. Attacking his people and enslaving them. Thoughtless.

>Primaris Chad
>417 service studs

REEEEEEEEE

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>>54605162
>>54605207
>>54605262

>Catachans obviously modelled after Rambo and other 80s action movies, including a literal Rambo special character (Marbo)
>first depiction of Catachans in DoW2 give them American accents
>fucking people talking about Australians and New Zealanders

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54605399
>Can anyone share a White Dwarf scan or pdf?
> a White Dwarf
Come back once you've learned to ask questions correctly

>>54605402
spraying isnt feasible where i am thats why i went with imperial primer.

>>54605397
One specialist unit. Works for me but if you dont want it then do kharne+zerker with as many lord+zerkers you can afford.

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So - I decided to buy some classic plague marines for my Black Legion army. Should I equip them with close combat weapons or ranged weapons?

Also - I want to paint their armor black but give them this whole Nurgle feel. I don't want to paint them like on pic related (I believe it's Death Guard theme) and just give them one black pauldron as GW is suggesting. Any tips how to make it right?

>>54605193
Much better but certain factions getting a codex full of free buffs before anyone else is worse.

But then that codex is missing rules for common units also making it worse for them.

>>54605419
Get Vallejo surface primer and brush it on

>>54605418

Sorry, does anyone have a Creamfolicle Duardin scan?

>>54605418
It's obvious I'm asking for the new release as much as asking for a codex space marine pdf or scan is related to the latest release.

>>54605436
...but the new ones are out, anon :/

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>>54605418
i scan this 4u

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>>54605413
Everyone is a Brit in 40k. Doesn't matter if they're based on Americans, in the grimdarkness of the far future there is only Anglo-Saxons.

>>54605413
>muh infalliable image shall never be changed
So Tigrarius should be sitting pissing himself in the corner about the hive fleet whilst not even being head librarian

>>54605429
>one specialist unit
Then it'll die, then where's your check

>>54605403
>The necrons would be unstoppable if they all awakened and united
>This guy is a retard because he's awakening and uniting dozen of tomb worlds therefore increasing his power many times without any kind of losses.

>>54605450

>t. GW

>>54605455
No, there are also brits doing laughably bad scandanavian impersonations. Like worse than the cast of Vikings bad.

>ughl gooo bewt unly uf brover zeekel duwnt whyne bewt it ar hurgh hur

>>54605479
What are confederations and vassals m>>54605486
They're not Scandinavian accents they Yorkshire men

It's weird to me that people keep reporting they're buying Redemptors when they kinda suck.

>Maybe they think the model looks cool?

That argument only applies to models people think look cool.

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Best way to paint the following nid schemes, i.e. Paints
Also who still plays the last stand

>>54605450
Well, they look a bit too mutated for me. My idea of plague marines is that they are BL guys which became a plague marines thanks to those famous Nurgle sorceres, not are offshots from a Death Guard. I want to give them BL shoulderpads and hands from CSM box.

>>54605514
/wip/ general will help you better.

>>54605526
Understandable.

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>>54605514

>>54604985
That sounds like a nightmare to fight. As another Guard player I'm not sure how to counter that either.

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>>54604539
Minotaurs and bring these fuckers along. Bam, 3 special HQs for your army

My top desires for space marine units:

-Librarian Dread that anyone can take
-Generic captain dread, with Bjorn's captain buff bubble
-Techmarine Dread, with a huge ass back mounted servo-arm.

>>54605499
People think they like it. And are tricked into believing it is the only dreadnought chad marines use. The stockholm syndrome is strong with a lot of marine players, I know of plenty that even buy new shit that they say looks ugly and has not that great rules because "It is for marines, I have to buy it."

>>54605514
>Also who still plays the last stand

I do

>>54604364

Brexit is only lolfail because of women in politics fucking it up with another vote.

Metrics is the superior logical system, smooth sailing. Imperial is retarded any only America and some cuck countries like North Korea uses it in the whole world.

Power levels of new SM codex isn't that much greater than the index.

FW is not p2w everyone knows this

Orks are WAACfags if they bring 99999 boys and spend 50 minutes on each movement phase with their fat chubby fingers. They become WAACfags because they have 0 care or thought about the opponents use of time or enjoyment. All they care about is their own "fun",their own "winning" = WAACfag

>>54605340
Macrostub and erad ray all the way fellow binaric warlord
also reminder to pray to the Omnissiah for more HQ choices for those sweet sweet CeePees

>>54605486
That sounds yorkshire.

>>54605491
I'm talking about space wolves. Pretty sure that's not Yorkshire they're aiming for. Bonus points for only defining them through the dark angels

>uhm glud no durk angel befull dees squud uh dewn lyke suuns uvf deh luun duntcha knuuh

>>54605559
>-Techmarine Dread, with a huge ass back mounted servo-arm.
I feel like this would just be narcissism...
If his body is damaged he would just collapse and bemoan the injustice done to the Omnissiah and stop fighting to repair it

No Chaplain dread that blasts the glory and righteousness of the Imperium through his speakers so loudly that it deafens the foe?

Shame on you.

>>54605585

Generic chaplain dread exists, I don't need to wish.

>>54605301
Yeah, ngl, I have zero ideas about how to deal with primarchs with my necrons

Anyone have an idea what I could proxy my converted Lord Aquilor as?

Base size was less important as 7th so I was comfortable using him as a Juggerlord, but now that dragging units into combat with pile in shenanigans is a thing his long as fuck base is awkward and feels extremely cheaty

>>54605559
Mine are a Reiver-esque squad with sniper rifles.

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>>54605580
>another fag into chibi
>>54605529
>implying

>>54605585

Chaplain dread is a thing, it gives all friendly units in the same combat as it +1 strength

>>54605615
>>54605639
I play Chaos where the only dread is maximum over angry all the time, forgot about the Chaplain one

my bad

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How are people equiping their reivers? Im thinking squad of five with grave chutes and carbines the other 5 with grapnels and knives.

>>54605637
Eh?

>>54605649
>that picture

Ok I have several questions.

>>54605648

DESU it would be nice if GW would give chaos a couple more dread options

You'd think an obliterator/mutilator dread duo kit would be the best selling thing chaos has ever had

>>54605413
anon even the fucking valhallans have brittish tendecies

>>54605672

The answer to all of them is >Slavs

>>54605649
All with carbines and grav chutes, seems pretty neat to drop in a squad of strictly better bolters and durable bodies on an objective or next to something they can take a few chunks out of

>>54605649
Gonna make 10 with knives and hooks. Because of thematic reasons.

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Who's the next Primarch to come back and why is it the Lion?

>>54605690
Maybe cult Dreadnoughts will make a return ? Like a Khorne dread, a TS dread, etc

>>54605754
Sangunius.

>>54605754
what kind of shitter drew this
he has a nice winged helmet

>>54605290
>t. I like dark, overly dark washed indiscernible blobs as an army on the table.
You know highlighting is a technique for a reason, right?

>>54605754
Lion, no question about it. Next one will be Fulgrim, then Vulkan.

>>54605247
id do something in between, left is kinda dull and too clean and right is too colourful