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More like Bonor lol geddit edition.

>Konor Campaign: Chaos comeback? edition
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>Check your local store's contribution
https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/

>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Latest news :
https://www.warhammer-community.com

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in pdf(and epub), SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>novels here
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg

>Other megas
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA (no 8e stuff here)

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-Anon doing Abaddon's work)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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First for proxies are legal.
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Why do casino dice roll better than the smaller dice?
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>WAAAH I DEMAND BOOKS FOR FREE BECAUSE 'EXPENSIVE' WAAH BUY THEM FOR ME AND SCAN AND UPLOAD FOR ME
>Why are you in a hobby that costs money? Why are you in a hobby that should be supported?
>LOL UR A FAGGOT IF YOU BUY BOOKS I BUY FROM CHINESE RECASTERS AS WELL LOL FAGGOT SPENDING YOUR MONEY, BTW GIVE ME IT FOR FREE, I'M GONNA BEG EVERY FUCKING DAY MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY FOR SOMEBODY TO SPEND MONEY AND UPLOAD THE BOOK FOR ME FOR FREE OFFERING NOTHING IN RETURN BUT MY SCORN AND SHITPOSTING
>I... I don't think I'm going to bother uploading it for you guys now

And that's why we don't get scans quickly. Just be glad somebody took the time to scan the relics, warlord traits, psyker powers, strats and tactical objectives AND point costs.

If you want the book, fuck off to >>>/wsr/ and beg there.
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KONOR WILL NOT SQUIRM FREE OF ITS FATE!
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5th for CUTEDAR and no more begging please. Rules of importance were posted a few threads ago.
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>>54598476
depends on the proxy and the context of the game.
Food tin drop pod try a new list in a casual game, all fine.

Missile Launcher as a lascannon in a tournament, not ok.
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>>54598486
>"I AM SILLY"
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>>54598486
Who's getting this whiny about it? I'm patiently waiting for scans to a faction I don't play while I buy books for factions I do play. Only gratitude to the scanner and understanding to those who choose not to. Because I wouldn't choose to. What an effort.
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>>54598624
I guess you weren't in the last thread, the guy is right, somebody went on a autistic rant about how people are stupid for buying codex books... but can you upload a scan plz? :^). And >>54598641 this guy is right, who the fuck would want to? The codex is like 200 pages long. Somebody sitting and scanning 200 pages for zero financial reward or incentive is pointless. Some guy did some rules a few thread ago for us, important ones, he put on a trip for 13 posts so it was easier to find in the archives and took it off when done, somebody had a go at him for doing it, then said that he posted content already seen; which wasn't true.

So even providing important rules and information people wants just gets people shat on, so why would anybody do it?

I'm going to bed, maybe it'll be done tomorrow and the begging can stop.

Also we seem to be in the other thread even though this was posted first.
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>>54598486
I live in Australia, I refuse to pay their outrageous marked up bullshit prices for digital content, much less physical. If you don't want to share your stuff that's fine but it's just a nice thing to do.
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>>54598547
that's fine, can we get a link to a compiled source?
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>>54598438
>>54598438
>>54598438
There are two generals for those unaware. The other is more lively.
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>>54598486
Anyone else sick of the posts bitching about people asking for a pirate codex?

;)
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I accidentally started plastic crack and spent hundreds of dollars and learnt to paint models and am going home home with a bag of paints glues and plastic army men what did i just get myself into.
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>>54601140
Upvoted. Make sure to post a picture of your haul captioned
>Did I do good?
for extra karma.
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>>54598486
Its not even the price its thats the issue its that gw randomly releases crap books with nothing in them. Can see why people want to see it first.
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Anyone have the regular am lieutenant datasheet?
Couls I use them with dangles?
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>>54601379
You're not fooling anyone with that argument bro
Just go into a store and leaf through the display copy first
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I really want to get into Warhammer 40K for pairing and collecting minis at this point. The eldar army looks so cool and I already have a few minis from when I was kinda getting into WH a few years back. Is it beyond stupid to get into Warhammer 40K for minis alone. That wraithhost is calling my name. What say you, /tg/?
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>>54601406
>implying i give a fuck about the rules
Kys sperg
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>>54601430
getting into it for just the minis is patrician.
You also save money because you are not tempted to net list .
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>>54598437
OP other megas is wrong. The mega labelled no 8e has 8e stuff, it's the first "other mega" that doesn't have any.
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>>54601294
That's the best way to earn upboats adter all.
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>>54598547
Get lost
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>>54601430

If you like minis why not

I live in the middle of nowhere and I've played four games in 15 years of the hobby.

Between the models and the lore and the screaming autism matches on the internet the hobby has me satisfied.
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>>54601430
Do it! Eldar are pretty fun.

Also Wraithguard in transports are pretty solid this edition. Wrath Knights are OK (strictly worse than imperial knights but still worth it at anything less than super cutthroat). Wraithlords look mediocre as usual but you do you.
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Boy there's nothing I love more than a good narrative campaign where a lot of people are all part of and contributing to one larger storyline.

It's just a shame that so many people think the Imperium should win. They always win. There's this whole theme of chaos losing every single battle but still somehow managing to win the war. At every single turn we see Chaos losing, and yet Cadia's gone and there's the great rift. The whole point of that is to justify having chaos lose constantly. They needed to have some kind of an excuse to lose constantly, and this is it. The fact that most people who play 40k see nothing wrong with having one faction that always wins and one faction that always loses is just astounding.
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>>54598713
>he doesn't know that GW has sold digital codexes for half a decade
No one, and I mean literally no one, wants a scan of a physical codex.
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What would be a good model to get feathered wings and a bird head to make a tzeentch avian daemon prince? Age of sigmar has lots of wings but im not sure what size would be best.
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>Space Marine Codex has Chapter tactics for 7 Chapters, Warlord Traits and Relics, 3 pages of Stratagems and 3 new Psychic powers
>costs $50
>Chaos Space Marine Codex has Legion traits for 7 Legions + 1 for Renegades, Warlord Traits and Relics, 3 pages of Stratagems and SIX (6) new psychic powers
>costs $40
Kek
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>>54601647
The fact that you act like Chaos is the only other faction besides Imperium is exactly why Xenos are fucking you in the ass, faggot. Your tears sustain me and make every bit of help I give to the Imperials worth it.
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>>54601647

To be fair, Chaos, and some other factions like Orks and Tyranids can't really lose in the sense that you can't actually kill them, just drive them off. A victory against them is just buying time.

On the other hand, if the Imperium falls I think that's it for the faction, the whole shebang just disintegrates.
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>>54598486
what book hasn't been shared yet?
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>>54598437
What are all those faction representatives doing with their mouths in the OP?
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>>54601647
Explain how there's any possible way in which a faction which isn't even close to the second most played at this point could ever hope to compete with a faction that makes up like half the playable armies and at LEAST 50% of the playerbase.

World campaigns will never work because there's just too many SM and IG players.
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>>54601681
>A global campaign about Imperium v. Chaos
>A picture of said campaign
>An opening comment about said campaign

Sometimes there's just never enough.
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>>54601706
8e space marine codex. For some reason the epub is taking a long time to be shared.
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codex space marines
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>>54601708
That's actually an easy one. When you have Imperium v. Imperium, someone can easily say that they're working for chaos. Unless maybe the store manager forbids it. But I'm pretty sure you can do that.
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>>54601733
So essentially you want Imperial players to go out of their way to cuck their own faction in a global campaign? Really?
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>>54601696
Yeah, but this isn't the fate of the whole Imperium, just The Fate of Konorâ„¢.
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>>54601748
Xenos were doing it at the start of the campaign
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>>54601789
'Xenos' isn't a real faction, an ork player is going to be perfectly happy to stick it to an eldar player.
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>>54601748
Did you just... inject /pol/ into a 40k campaign?

You know that the Imperium wins constantly, right?
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>>54601708
Painting units should affect a separate planet so it's split from points from winning battles. Xenos can only take points away from the faction they fought against. Factions cannot score points if their opponent belongs to the same faction. The campaign is fixed.
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>>54601814
>Did you just... inject /pol/ into a 40k campaign?
I don't think you know what that word means.
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>>54601811
But Orks and Eldr were allies before against the Necron Empire. It should ally again, they are meant to be together.
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Do we know if Relics cost pts or not?
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>>54601837
I know what it means.
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>>54601662
>still have berzerkers from the late 90's and noise marines from the early 2000's
Guffaw
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>>54601849
That's only when the Old Ones used their super psychic powers to drive them at their enemies.

Once they died or ran away, the orks and eldar forgot about their origins and established galactic empires and fought each other constantly.
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>>54601647
My Tyranids are dedicating every victory to the Imperium solely to make "lol NPC race" Chaos players like Carnac and yourself cry bitter, pathetic tears.
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>>54601888
You do know that Carnac is a necron fanboy, right?
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>>54601837
Dumb motherfucker thinks that "cuck" is a /pol/ insult. Probably the same guy that thinks that Pepe came from the whole Kek nonsense too.
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>>54601859
I'm not sure you do, I didn't call for the extermination of any race or imply that Marneus Calgar runs a sex slavery ring out of a pizza joint, yet you brought /pol/ into it.
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>>54601896
Cuck was adopted by /pol/. It's like saying Hitler isn't German because he is technically born in another country.
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>>54601647

The Ultramarines win every battle they fight in, but how many battles are fought without them?
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>>54601899
>or imply that Marneus Calgar runs a sex slavery ring out of a pizza joint
Well that would certainly explain how he's coping with, ahem, getting cucked by his primarch.
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>>54601908
nice bait, now fuck off.
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>>54601908
Cuck was adopted by the entire website and Hitler was ethnically german. Fail on both accounts my dear summer child.
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>>54601899
Neither do they. Mostly. I'm talking about throwing the word cuck around when you smell even a whiff of humility.
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>>54601893
Carnac is the biggest Chaos fanboy, you can count on him to show up regularly on any 40l lore thread for some autistic screeching about how horrible humanity is and how great and invincible and all-powerful and blah blah blah Chaos is.

Also he has an obvious gay crush on Be'lacuck for some reason.
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>>54601933
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>>54601888
Its stupid to fight for chaos anyway. AOS shows when they win practically everything is destroyed.
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>>54601966
It'd be nice if they could finally clarify if Abaddon is trying to destroy reality or if he just wants to kill the Emperor and create a Chaos Imperium a la Horus.
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>>54601935
Not just Be'lacuck, but his swordfu is Drachnyen and his IRL husbando is Laurie Gouldman.
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>>54601983
Watch out there with all that /pol/, dawg.
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>>54601980
chaos destroys, abaddon is merely a vehicle. What he wants is irrelevant
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>>54601988
Watch out there with all that reddit, dawg.
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>>54601888
Are you me?
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>>54601935
You do know that he is a troll and you are being trolled, right? He uses whatever fluff that triggers people to get (you)s. Chaos is just the best bait now. Stop falling for obvious bait.
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>>54601995
That's Abaddon's whole schtick though, he may or may not be using the Gods as a means to an end. I remember reading at one point that it was highly likely he'd basically dump the Chaos Gods once he'd achieved his goals and rule as the new Emperor.
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>>54601998
You don't browse this site very much do you?
>implying cuck wasn't from /v/ during gamergate
Spot the newfaggerino.
>ethnic background =/= nationality
It's almost like Hitler's entire shtick was about ethnicity and not nationality. Really makes you think.
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>>54601857
You get one free, one more if you spend a Command Point or two more for 3 Command Points.
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>>54602019
he can think what he wants, he belongs to all the gods he is their pawn
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>>54602009
This is a safe space my dude, we don't use the c**k word.
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>>54598490
>Literally BTFO mostly by npc races
>MFW
CSM fags on suicide watch!!!
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>>54602027
I dunno man, they retconned Horus pretty hard in the HH series so that the power he used to go up against the Emperor was his own and he wasn't just a pawn.
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>>54602015
He's way too dedicated and autistic to be a troll.
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>NPCs being buttblasted over playing second fiddle to Chaos

Loving every kek

Don't forget that you will be repeatedly violated for the next two years by PC Codex armies.
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>>54602054
>Chaosfags literally cucked in every store by "NPCs"
POTTERY
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>>54602068
>farming dumb NPCs for extra points
>"cucked"

Dis illusion.
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>>54601658
And if upload the .epub they just bitch.

Converting to .pdf without completely fucking it up is a massive pain in the balls.
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>>54601823
No, painting should affect all of the planets. Be grateful you're even allowed to play with your unpainted shit.
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>>54602041
ok, thats why horus betrayed the emperor of his own will and not by being corrupted by some dinky daemon sword. They are called slaves to darkness for a reason. They are slaves.
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>>54602044
You are giving him too much too (you)s too easily for him to change his tactics.
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>>54601325
There fairly heavy with the chaotic detailing. you'd be spending a while de chaosing them.

for BT I'd maybe consider Demigryph knights or vangaurd Palladors.
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>>54602108
Actually, the Horusian faction of the Inquisition claim that Horus was not a slave to the Chaos Gods. He used them for power. In time he would have enslaved them. That's why they are trying to bring back Horus or recreate him.
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Finished in 6 days of non-stop batch painting

I never want to paint again
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>>54601998
>I have seen too many Germans trying to claim that Hitler wasn't a German
Correct, he was Austrian. Both Austrians and Germans are Germanic.

Hitler was not German but he was Germanic.

Words mean things.
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>>54602136

Holy shit. I admire your moxie and soul crushing effort.
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>>54602054
>It's orkz headbutting chaos into submission all over again
Loving Every Laugh
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Does the Fabulous Bile model look like utter ass? Thinking of including him in my DG list to buff poxwalkers and shit.
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>>54602108
>He’d fought wars, slain monsters and defied gods in those moments. He’d wrested the power of those same gods at the heads of vast armies of daemons. He’d fought in battles that would rage unchecked for all eternity. He’d won a thousand kingdoms within the empyrean, billions of vassals to do with as he pleased, but he’d refused it. Every pleasure and prize was his for the taking, but he’d denied them all. He’d taken the power his father had taken, but he’d done so without deception. He’d taken it by force of arms and by virtue of his self-belief. There was no bargain made, no promise to honour. The power was his and his alone. Finally, after everything, Horus was a god.

I don't even play Chaos but they retconned Horus so he was an equal to the Emperor and not just a particularly big zombie. And Abaddon is basically just a tiny Horus at this point, daddy issues and all.
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>>54602079
Cry harder Chaoscuck.
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>>54602157
He's held up pretty well
Not a great looking model, but better than most from his time.
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>>54602157

I've always considered it a pretty great looking mini.
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>>54602136
Holy hell. It takes me like a week to get 5 guys done.
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>>54602087
I am able to convert it. I know how to use PrinceXML to convert it flawlessly.
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>>54602172
>y-you are crying

kek, try not projecting as hard, NPC-kun.
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>>54602087
It's super easy to convert if you know how. Just a tedious setup.
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>>54602087
The epub bitchers are few but vocal. I for one welcome epubs.
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>>54602168
>Abaddon.
>Tiny

Abaddon is as large as Horus.

>‘Enough.’

>Abaddon stood behind Horus. He had not screamed the word. He had barely even raised his voice. The absolute authority in Abaddon’s tone was all he required. In his armour Abaddon was the equal of his father’s clone, both in stature and in the fury he emanated. The Warmaster’s name is whispered as a curse on a million worlds in this last, dark millennium, with many Imperial peasants– those who are even aware of the events that shaped our empire– believing Abaddon to be Horus’s cloned son. It would not surprise those superstitious souls to learn that, in that moment as they both stood before me, only their wounds and their armament set them apart. In all else, they were twins.

>Horus turned in a blur, Worldbreaker swinging in an arc faster than a weapon of its size and weight should ever be able to move. Abaddon not only parried the mace, he caught it. He held it. He gripped it in that great Talon stained with the blood of a god and His angel.

>Father and son faced each other, breathing spite into each other’s snarling features. For the first time, the primarch spoke. Spit stringed between his teeth. They were clean and unmarked, not etched with Cthonian hieroglyphs as Abaddon’s were.

-

>There was a cloned father and a prodigal son, surrounded by the dead and the wounded, so similar that only by their weapons and wounds could I tell them apart. That, and their different smiles.
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>>54602168
>Bringing BL fancanon to this most holy of threads
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>>54602168
I suppose ahriman isn't tzeentch's plaything either. The quote you're giving me is his own delusion. Horus was a pleb. New fluff is he dies to secure the 10k year decay leading to total chaos victory. Abs is the chaos gods new vehicle for victory. He wields a daemon sword and has the mark of chaos ascendant. The mark means your a slave m8.
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>>54602211
It was figurative.
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>>54602231
Doesn't seem so. He said they were the same in stature.
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>>54602117
>Demigryph knights or vangaurd Palladors
Don't make me laugh
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>>54602240
No, him being a tiny Horus was figurative.
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>>54602230
>The mark means your a slave m8.

Archaon is marked but he is not the slave of the Chaos Gods. In fact, he is called the Master of Chaos. The Chaos Gods cannot bind Archaon to their will so they must bargain with him. If Archaon can do it then so can Abaddon.
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>>54602189
>M-Muh NPCs
Enjoy literally getting cucked out of any chance of victory. There literally aren't enough Chaos players in the world to stand a chance.
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>>54602248
Ahhh stupid me.

But Abaddon is no way the lesser of Horus. He is superior to him in everyway.
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>>54602259
>Mad cus you literally have no chance

Stay mad aliums
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>>54602259
>losing literally irrelevant event with nothing on line
>not having your Codex for years while getting dicked by oversized PC cocks

Hmmmm
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>>54602211
>Literally believing a guy called "the Deceiver" talking to his sworn enemies 10,000 years after the fact
>That tiny fucking head
I knew Chaosfags were dumb but not that dumb.
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>>54602283
>implying Tyranids aren't getting a Codex soon
lol
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>>54602258
Archaeon won the old world for the chaos gods in AoS what did he get for it?
I don't follow AoS to know the answer. Was it a stupid ugly dragon instead of a horse? What did he win?
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Best loadout for veteran SM? I currently have some power weapon + bolters glued due to leftover from 30k, but not sure what to do for 40k, since I lose out on a lot of weapons
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>>54602284
Khayon isn't Ygethmor That guy is is dead.
Zaraphiston is at Abaddon side acting as his seer. As you should know, there is nothing that Khayon hates more than prophecy and precog. He refuses to use his powers for any of that crap. So he ain't both of them.
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>>54602292
>Tyranids

Ah, the ultimate NPC race. I wonder if they will do anything but job to every other race in their own Codex.

Chaos already cucked them with Blood Angels.
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Why isnt Perturabo leading Chaos undivided? Why let a jackass non-primarch lile abaddon lead it?

Is it because Abaddon=Archaon because they both start with A?
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>>54602230
Well firstly if you wanna use the Tzeentch example, technically every single human character in the setting is a slave to the gods because everyone feeds them, willingly or not.

Secondly what do you have against them taking Chaos in a direction where they're not just a bunch of mouthbreathing slaves but have agency? An enemy that's your equal makes for a much more interesting story than one side being exclusively made up of dumbasses.
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>>54602270
>Horus: All but annihilated the Imperium in 7 years, killed Sanguinius and the Emperor personally
>Abaddon: Failed to kill any Primarchs ever, spent 10,000 years trying to take Terra and still can't do it, literally has an oudated metal midget model while Chaos Primarchs take center stage because he's that irrelevant
LOL
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>>54602310
I run a squad of company vets with 2 storm shield/power swords, 2 meltas, and a combi melta sarge and I use em to either bodyguard my warlord or to drop pod in and ruin enemy armor
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>>54602303
1-He was elevated to being a demigod.
2-He is only second to the Chaos Gods in the chain of command. Daemon Kings an Princes bend their knee to him in their millions
3-Destroyed multiple realities and universes for Chaos
4-Built a massive realm/empire in the Realm of Chaos

He did good but it's not enough for him. Archaon doesn't seek power or authority. He only seeks to destroy everything that exists.
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>>54602341
Didn't Abaddon kill Dorn?
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>>54602332
Because black legion is the ultramarines of chaos.
Generic, and does anything.
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>>54602244
why? their decorations are more suitable for Imperial stuff and the palladors would let him just add bits from the BT upgrade sprue to finish them.
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>>54602341
What you say is false and I bet you know that.
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>>54602326
>caring about the fluff when they're a top tier army now and will only get stronger with the codex
I can't wait for Chaoscucks to cry even harder next campaign when they get repeatedly stomped down by nids for being faggots just like you're being now, lol
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>>54602303
He's pretty much s God too. Some dumbass reason they gifted him with a whole lot of power after he destroyed the old world.

Now he runs around the cosmos and magical plains doing whatever the fuck he wants because the gods can't stop him.
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>>54598477

This is so true, small dice suck ass
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>>54602332
Abaddon is, lore-wise at least, equal to Horus at this point. That's why.
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Posting best Chapter Master.
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>>54602332
>Why isnt Perturabo leading Chaos undivided?

Because he isn't a daemon of Chaos Undivided. ONLY BE'LAKOR of all the daemon princes is Undivided. Having no single master.
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>>54602338
Why would getting power from chaos with no downside be interesting?
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>>54602372
Isn't Archaon supposed to have taken Slaanesh's place in the pantheon? I swear I remember reading something about all of Slaanesh's worshippers now worshipping him instead.
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>>54602310
2 storm shields, the rest bring naked combi-plasma. keep in cover (or vehicle) at all times. (park advancing vehicle in/next to cover, in case it gets destroyed, so that you can safely disembark)
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>>54602369
>I-i don't care about being relevant

I see that years of Tyranid abuse lead their players to the depths of despair.

Also

>Tyranids
>Strong army

Try competitively unviable, NPC. They are shit, and they are only going to get worse as PC and more important NPC races get all the upgrade.
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>>54602363
Because the eagle things look fugly as fuck. Demigriph are slightly less so but still not grimdark or BT thematically at all.
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>>54602404
>being this fucking bad at 40k
Holy shit my sides
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>>54602391
Think it was the Horned Rat that took Slaanesh's place when he vanished.

Most of their followers still believe Slaanesh is out there, even her daemons.
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>>54602366
>Horus: Bravely faces down a Primarch and then the Emperor himself, kills both
>Abaddon: Shits himself at the mere mention of Girlyman, tries desperately to stop it happening and fails miserably (literally cucked by fucking Eldar), too chickenshit to lead the attack on Macragge personally
Wow so impressive.
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>>54602338
Only complete retards willing worship chaos. You're supposed to be corrupted. Slowly over time. Your desires and goals manipulated until you think its totally natural, and a good decision. They sell you power and give you slavery. Thats fucking chaos. The desperate and the insane are the followers of chaos. I mentioned ahriman because he too thinks he can use the chaos gods for his own ends and not get fucked. He is also stupid.

>>54602332
In universe all the daemon primarchs are too busy being daemons to care enough about reality.
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>>54602391
No, Archaon didn't take Slaanesh's place. However, some Slaaneshi worshipers started directing their worship to Archaon viewing him as their surrogate god.
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>>54602383
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>>54602383
But belakor is literally the lamest fucking asshole in both fantasy and 40k. Thats fucking stupid as well since why is abaddon leading chaos undivided? What gives him more say than a literal autistic primarch?
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>>54602388
You mean like the Emperor did? Because only the Emperor, Horus and Abaddon have pulled that off at this point. A good story needs a good villain and a good villain has to pose both an intellectual and physical threat to the hero.

If Abaddon's just a deluded moron you might as well just make all traitor marines into Thousand Sons-esque automatons who live exclusively to serve.
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>>54602419
>Fluff when it meant something and GW new how to write interesting stories
>Fluff from when GW is transfering to anime-esque nobledark and BL is fucked in the head
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>>54602356
Dorn is still alive.
Somewhere.
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>>54602419
The personal attack is Mortarion's job.

Super pissed his brother came back and wanted to do something relevant.
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>>54602419
He wasn't worried about Girlyman's martial power. He was worried about Girlyman rallying the Imperium and pulling crap out of his butt like the P-marines and whatever.

In Abaddon's right hand is a weapon that makes any Primarch his bitch.
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>>54602437
And the Emperor and Horus are dead. You can have plenty of agency without removing all cost to consorting with chaos.
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I've been toying with the concept of a joke IG Regiment, and here's what I have so far:

The planet Habbo is primarily oceanic, but the ocean is filled with deadly virus cultures, and as a result the entire planet is under Imperial quarantine. The only reason it hasn't been subject to exterminatus is the fact that the cultures make excellent bio-weapons.
The Imperial Guard regiment tasked with maintaining the quarantine, known as the Habbo Raiders, is rarely found outside their home system, but detachments are sometimes called in to deal with threats susceptible to the planet's deadly organisms, particularly Tyranids. The concentration of deadly bacteria on the planet Habbo is so great that it is sometimes sufficient to load Bane Wolves with the seawater itself, instead of its usual deadly toxin.
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>>54602419
Why would Abaddon be scared of Girlyman? Didn't he make Angron literally kneel before him? Angron kicked the shit out of Romtom,
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>>54602419

They should honestly just have Lorgar take over as leader of Chaos since this is all he, Erebus and Kor Phaeron's faults anyway.
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>>54602382
>donaldtrumpwrong.gif
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>>54602435
Because the Primarchs are either thralls to their gods, or are too busy brooding over the failed Heresy to do anything.

Only daemon primarch that did anything before Magnus was Angron and he just wanted to destroy Armageddon on a whim.
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>>54602372
>>54602352
Ok maybe abaddon can do the same then. All the same archaeon has done everything the gods have wanted collectively right? When he can go against them and nothing happens to him, I'd say he has won.

>>54602437
The emperor paid the price though. He didn't get away scott free, he got fucked aswell.
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>>54602382
Literally a sigmarine
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>>54602398
>>54602345
Why only 2 stormshields?

Is there a benefit for mixing saves? Wouldn't just one be sufficient then?
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>>54602423
My chaos warband does chaos like this: The WE overlords resisted the corruption of the butchers nails and wanted to keep their sanity. They had to make pacts with a bloodthirster to revert the damaging of the brain. If they do not get the right kill quota mutation wracks the body and they become spawn. However this insesant battle is dangerous and not often worth the risk so on the field of battle they will keep govenors, commisars and generals alive to turn their forces over who fight in khornes honour and inflate the WE death toll thus pleasing khorne. These veterans of the long war yearn to regain their former prowess but as free men not slaves to the imperium.
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Can anyone explain to me how Khornate marine warbands actually operate? So much of the fluff seems to portray them as ALL ANGRY ALL THE TIME but that doesn't make any sense because if they approach every situation with psychotic rage then wouldn't they quickly end up killing each other (extremely counterproductive) or charging straight at organized gunlines or ambushes? Do they only go axe-crazy once they're already stuck in in combat? And until that point they refrain from killing each other, take cover, even use stealth to get closer to the enemy before pulling their enemies' arms off and using them to beat them to death?

It's always baffled me, don't get me wrong, I love Khorne and always have, but I just don't understand how they fit into the 40k universe on a day-by-day basis.
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>>54602433
You can post it all day long but in the end of the day, it wasn't him.

>>54602435
Because Daemon princes are busy in the Great Game and Pert is busy with being useless building stuff instead of warring. Abaddon says so went he was speaking with an Iron Warrior hat got sick of Perts shit and wanted to join the Long War.

Abaddon has more willpower, guts, determination than all the Primarchs combined. All of them succumbed to the Chaos Gods and becmame their slaves. Abaddon never succumb. He will never be the plaything of the Chaos Gods.

AS for Be'lakor. Bitch, please. Be'lakor is a joy in both settings.
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Is it ever mentioned which god Perturabo is actually a demon of now?
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>>54602504
Undivided. Its a thing even though GW wishes you would forget so.
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>>54602452
>In Abaddon's right hand is a weapon that makes any Primarch his bitch.

>Literally ran away screaming from ordinary humans and later space elves
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>>54602383
8 W O U N D S
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>>54602491
And Abaddon's story hasn't come to a close yet, he could still get wasted for all we know. That doesn't mean he's a mindless pawn when there are those one or two cases of people maintaining their personality while using Chaos for their own ends and it's at least a possibility that both he and Horus are amongst those people.
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>>54602504
Not in current fluff. My money's on slaanesh because "muh perfection"
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>>54602516
Pylons. Escaped the Pylons.

>>54602499
There is the daemonkin codex. Read it. It's about Khornate warbands and how they aoperate. It's in the links.

>>54602517
Isn't EVEN HIS FINAL FORM.
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So /tg/ how does GW expect us to give a shit about the new fluff when chaos, this all dangerous and amazing power, never wins and is run by a bunch of simple fuckers. Like come on give us chaos fans a win for once.
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>>54602535

Aha, thank you!
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>>54602452
>"I-I'm not w-worried about Guilliman's s-strength, guys."
>Refuses to try and lead the desperate attack to stop his revival
>Or to face him at all
>In the 100 years since
Really makes you think.
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>>54598641
Nobody is, he just desperately wants to feel like he's better than other people.
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>>54602535
If any form of yours has 8 fucking wounds when you're supposed to be an omnipotent universe ending god then I think you have a problem.
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>>54602499
This was older fluff, so perhaps its been superceded now, but Khorne used to have a good variety of followers; obviously your standard raving berserker types, but you also had heavy weapons squads raining death from afar, tank crews dedicated to blowing up as many enemies as possible, even snipers and other specialist aiming to score as many kills as possible.

So I'd either take stuff like that into account, other just establish that your warlord has enough control over his slavering lunatics that he can keep them in line and not kill their pilots, suppliers, armorsmiths and all the other support units a warband would need to go from battle to battle.
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>>54602539
Kill yourself
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>>54602496
if your vets are properly in cover, the 2 storm shields are going to already take quite some amount of high callibre firepower to chew through. your enemy will instead probably direct fire elsewhere or if he doesn't, you can nullify a good deal of that firepower so that the rest of your army lives another turn.

now depending who your facing, they might instead use torrent of fire (lasguns, hurricane bolters) to blow you off. that's where the +1 from cover comes in handy.

as to whether plasma or melta, plasma is generally better but it depends on overall army composition. if melta, you need an effective way to deliver it (think ravenguard stratagem).
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>>54602542
Abaddon was busy all the way in Cadia, managing the traitor forces and riding out the Great Rift.

>In the 100 years since

Actually, that's a big plothole. Did you find anything about what happened to Abaddon and the 13th Black Crusade? Because 8th ED made the point of shoving it all under the rug to focus of the Deathguard.
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>>54602557

Makes sense, thanks!
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How is this list? Would I be that guy?
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>>54602502
>You can post it all day long but in the end of the day, it wasn't him.

>"It wasn't me, it was another Undivided daemon (except I'm the only one) who just looked exactly like me and also used my name!"

Very convincing.
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I know I'm late to the party but fuck this primaris bullshit money grabbing faggotry. Now all the models I've collected for my chapter and all the work I put in is obsolete as primaris are probably going to be op as fuck. I knew I should have started a xenos army instead of marines.

This is exactly what Hasbro did with transformers by killing of the old cast and adding all sorts of new characters in the movie.

This is greed on a whole new level for GW.
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>>54602576
After they destroyed Cadia and caused the rift, the crusade fell apart.

All the Legions and war bands that joined up went separate ways, seizing the opportunity to cause havoc and destroy Imperial stuff in parts of the galaxy now cut off from the rest of the Imperium.

So he's just sitting over the rubble of Cadia in the Planet Killer trying to figure out what to do next.
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>>54602535
>Pylons. Escaped the Pylons.
And ran away from some space elves come to help the good guys and cried in his room while they took hours to come to an agreement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
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>>54602556
The Chaos Gods nerfed Be'lakor. He is trying to get his power back by collecting his old trinkets/relics and by destroying other champions and princes of the Chaos Gods. Each time the Chaos Gods elevate someone to daemonhood, Be'lakor grows weaker.

>However, they soon realised the folly of combining their might into a single vessel, as Be’lakor was nearly uncontrollable. They soon began to raise up new Daemon Princes, each god choosing only champions that would be loyal to them, and them alone. Be’lakor remained the strongest of the Daemon Princes, though his might was diminished as the gods spread their power among their other servants. Nevertheless, Be’lakor remains a master of shadows, moving behind the veil of history exerting the will of the Chaos Gods upon the universe.

-

>Unknown to Kyber, he is being manipulated by Be’lakor. The Daemon Prince placed the first clues to his existence in Kyber’s path, leading the Magos to the ruins of a world he once ruled. From this seed of curiosity, Kyber has discovered new systems, planets and ruined empires long forgotten by Be’lakor. While the Daemon helps Kyber from the shadows, the Magos gathers up the hidden and forgotten legacy Be’lakor has left behind, ultimately returning to the Daemon Prince his lost objects of power, while also erasing his existence from history.

It's 8th ed stated that Be'lakor has a role in the end of the galaxy. So prepare for more lore featuring him and new rules.
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>>54602595
>primaris are probably going to be OP as fuck
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>>54602595
Relax, primaris are shit.
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>>54602600
I hope they just forget about Abaddon, he is so borning.

Honestly both Khorne and Chaos Undivided are just terrible. All the others have their interesting aspects but the first two are just bland beyond belief.
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>>54602530
he's not mindless he just thinks he's in charge. If he's so great why does he need the chaos gods at all? He uses their power for mortal goals, but these goal align with the gods. Destruction of the imperium, slaughter etc. If he's not a slave he is an employee. Even the bit ADB writes here>>54602502
>Yes one day it will be all yours

Yeah m8 believe me, I'm just a daemon, its all yours, we don't mind not at all. We haven't fucked over every single person who entreats with us, no way. This is a good deal abaddon, destroy the imperium and you can rule the ashes. Absolutely you can rule them, no problem.

Its just more bullshit. I am a chaosfag myself. But chaos is a bad deal. They fuck over everyone, except apparently archaeon. (i'm not convinced that arch is anything more than a freelance employee of destruction though)
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>>54602580
Same old debunked points again and again please try to be original.

1-The WD was in 7th ED before the retcon of Undivided
2-The WD battle report doesn't name the daemon prince
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>>54601647
>the imperium always wins
>cadia is in ashes
>the entire fucking imperium is torn in half by a warp rift
chaos fags are the worst
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>>54602595
this is dumb on a lot of levels, but the one that triggered me was the transformers bit

no true fan watches those movies you cunt the comics are where its at
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>>54602576
>Abaddon was busy all the way in Cadia, managing the traitor forces and riding out the Great Rift.
His followers fucked off the moment they could to do whatever in direct contravention of his orders. Horus would surely be impressed.
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>>54602616
Yeah see, this is why hes so fucking lame.

Hes the fucking COLDSTEEL THE HEDGEHEG of Warhammer 40k. Name another character as shittily OC DONUT STEEL than belagay. I dare you. Hes fucking lame as shit mary sue cocksucker with rock shaped bruises on his head from getting fucked up by Skinks.
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>>54602616
8 wounds lol
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So with the Codex release The Emperor's Champion dropped almost 40 points, kept all the same stats and is still a massive character killer is that right?
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>>54602600
>So he's just sitting over the rubble of Cadia in the Planet Killer trying to figure out what to do next.

Some of the warbands, not all of them, He cannot be at Cadia for 100 years. It says in 8th ED brb that Abaddon crusade said across the galaxy. Sailed where? Why aren't they in Terra? Why didn't the Great Rift expand to Terra? It's glaring plotholes that GW intentionally didn't fill.

>>54602609
You mean forced his retreat and they fled before he can regroup his forces.
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>Playing against WAAC friend
>I don't mind since its a challenge.
>he has the rule book in his hands
>gets a rule wrong but I don't notice, revealing the VIP in the rescue mission only activates the alarm at the end of the turn not immediately
>he's reading the page, he claims it ends the turn immediately
>he must be right since he's got the book
>he uses a strategem to bring a unit onto the table on the flank near the revealed VIP
>because its a special strategem he can deploy within 9"
>he easily gets the charge off and slaughters the VIP
>I admit defeat as i don't think anything went wrong
>I start packing up with a sour taste since i basically only could react and kill sentries
>he starts getting annoyed that I didn't agree to just play it out.
>find out that i should have been able to finish my turn to try and protect the VIP.

Please tell me he was just assuming the rules and retarded and not actually that WAAC. fuck. i honestly don't know since he's the type of guy who is more than happy to take advantage of another persons ignorance. but deliberately telling me the wrong rule would be a new low.
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>>54602639
Then they write it up so that it was part of Abbadons plan to spread out his forces.

Like how they changed the other crusades into secret missions
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>>54602616
Literally the only role he will ever have is getting cucked and jobbing to everyone he meets to make them look more badass.
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>>54602639
>>54602600
>G-Guys, I'm the new warmaster you gotta listen to me!
>Guys?
>Please respond.
Armless the harmless strikes again!
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>>54602649
Isn't Guilliman pretty bad?
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>>54602649
>as shittily OC DONUT STEEL than belagay. I dare you

Belisarius "I am a HERETEK" Cawl? Belisarius "I break the setting" Cawl?

>>54602654
Not for long.

>>54602639
>Horus would surely be impressed.

Horus was no better in that regard.
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>>54602637
I was actually referring to the 80s movie you fucking poser.
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So the Chapter Master of the White Scar's can't take a bike anymore because GW doesn't allow conversions anymore.

Good job guys 10/10
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>>54602672
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>>54602630
>*offers no evidence of anything*
>"You're wrong because I said so."
Persuasive.
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>>54602669
Like the daemon primarchs!

At least Be'lakor wasn't defeated by a single punch and had his heart mutilated.
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>>54598477
idk
casino dice rolls each side about 17%
gw dice rolls a 1 some 20-30% of the time
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>>54602692
In fiction there is no worse fate than to become immortal. It just means you will be used by writers to die a lot since it has no stakes. But one ignoble death is not enough. You will keep dying.

Its the only thing abaddon got right.
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>>54602688
Be'lakor's dataslate/battlescroll which made him the only Undivided DP came in 8th ED fantasy. The WD came out during the release of the 7th ed lizard army book.

Give me the WD issue number and I will show you or are you scared?
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>>54602659
>You mean forced his retreat and they fled before he can regroup his forces

>"My super-OP daemon sword is totally more powerful than Primarchs, guys!"
>Runs away from humans and elves
>Hiding behind Mortarion's skirts rather than even try to face Guilliman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
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>>54602675
>>54602678
Different guy, but they are OC DONUT STEEL in a different way. They aren't COLDSTEEL but more if a little kid says his favorite unit is the ultimate smartest or strongest.
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>>54602629
You realise that if you completely deny the possibility that if someone makes pacts with the Gods and retains control of their minds the entire Imperium belongs to Chaos already since you know, E dog went in on all sorts of deals with the gods.
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>>54602678
>be'lacuck has lower toughness than the average tank
Embarrassing lmao
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>>54602678
Belisarius "deus ex machina? deus est machina!" Cawl
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>>54602684
okay carry on then

you're wrong about primaris in this instance though, they're okay but pretty niche
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>>54602686
But they sell an actual model called a White Scars Captian and he's on a bike.

It's not hard to just use both of them to make him ride around on his bike.
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>>54602663
you should just hit him with the bants everytime you see him from now on

saying shit to him like
>can I trust you about that rule?
>you gonna try and cheat again pal?
>let me double check you can do [insert very basic ad obvious rule here] just to be sure you arent cheating again

treat waac faggots like shit because they have no morals
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>>54602719
The emperor kept control of his mind, but his foresight was clouded and his plans were ruined. The setting let's no one get away scot free unless you do what the chaos gods want.
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>>54602728
Except you can't use Khan on a bike. I didn't want a generic captain, I wanted my Chapter Master, and I wanted a Librarian on Bike too, but I am not permitted that either.
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>>54602411
>Bird-beasts not thematic for imperial forces.

uhuh sure buddy.
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>>54602729
nah he should just play him again. Once he's sure then he can be a dick. People do make mistakes regarding rules comprehension.
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>>54602712
It's forth nothing if he cannot come close to swing with it.

And remember the time Horus And Mortarion got rekt by three gunship? Horus and Mortarion would have died if it wasn't for Fulgrim casting a shield. Mort's arm was blown off and at the end of the amnush he fainted causing Horus to cry out in grief.

If Primarchs can be wounded like that, Abaddon can be too.
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>>54602709
>mad his husbando is weak to rock like a fucking Pokemon
Carnac? Is that you?
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>>54602595
yeah, actually most of them are pretty meh. some of them are good, some are okayish, but you don't really need any of them.
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>>54602738
so use the index
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>>54602718
How about Huron? His daemon puppy gives him sorcery and mastery over the warp, letting him summon ships in on a whim. Also he's the supreme pirate leader of the Malestrom and told Abbadon to fuck off.
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>>54602765
And when I come across fuckwads saying I can't, what then?
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Daily reminder:
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>>54602718
Be'lakor's existence that didn't change something fundamental in the setting and justified the change of a model range.

The 40K intro says 'FORGE THE POWER OF TECHNOLOGY" and then comes Cawl to solve all the Imperium's problems with the power of technology.

Now he is going to mix the technologies of the Old One, Necrons, and Eldar into a weapon against Chaos. It's stupid. Beyond stupid. But its okay because Cawl doesn't look like this.
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>>54602735
We haven't seen Abaddon's full story yet. He could still totally fuck up yet.
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>>54598641
I like you guy.
I support my factions. Space Marines aren't my faction and I don't want to accidentally walletvote them into a heightened sense of importance and then not have cash for more important 'dexes
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>>54602774
you point them to the community article that says you'll still need the index for more specialized units
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>>54602752
At at lies. I forgot the issue number. Give it to me so I can download it, you cur.
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>>54602774
Print out the FAQ that says you can
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>>54602672
>"Please clap."
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>>54598917
>Reminded of all the kasrkins I painstakingly clipped all the hellgun cables off to make BEST carapace vets.
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>>54602789
"That's some webpage, not official rules."
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>>54602793
Then you're playing a retard, consider it an early warning system for not wasting your time.
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>>54602692
Mortarion lost to the Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights after killing the previous one easily by himself. Be'lakor got punched in the nuts and ran way from an ordinary Space Marine with an ordinary power fist.
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>>54602793
Just don't play with turboniggers. Problem solved
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>>54602793
Suplex them through the table, iunno
I doubt you're gonna have much fun playing against someone that anal about it, so I wouldn't bother with them
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So do Thousand Sons have squads of their own normal non-rubric marines?
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>>54602773
Dude, Huron bent the knee to Abaddon in exchange for a Blackstone Fortress.

Also Huron could not withstand the attetion of the Chaos Gods like Abaddon. The Chaos Gods were going to ascend him to daemonhood but the catch is his mind will be that of a Chaos spawn. He was too weak to refuse the Chaos Gods like Abaddon did 13 times.

He had to go uncover an Old One/Necron device to cure his body from the taint of Chaos.
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>>54602812
Nope
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Can someone post the codex epub please?
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>>54602750
>Carnac admitting super powerful OC Drach'nyen is easily cucked by an ordinary lascannon in an ordinary Valkyrie
Have I entered a parallel universe or something?
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>>54602835
Yeah that would be great.
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>>54602775
Don't see what difference it makes if he's in a dread knight.

Probably just give it an extra wound, the ability to hit on on 2+, and maybe an iron halo. Everything else is the same loadout as a regular dread knight.
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>>54602835
I can but what do I get in exchange.
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dont know much about this game, but I have a quick question
can I just build an army out of 1 unit type, like just a shit ton of vanilla space marines, or is that against the rules?
if so, what are the absolute min requirements for a complete army
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>>54602846
Thanks?
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>>54602846
I'll hook you up with a dick pic of something similar to Bruce Lee's one inch punch.
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>>54602846
sent
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>>54602840
Drach'nyen is locked in the form of a sword now. It's all powerful but its limited by its user. Abaddon can be killed. Drach'nyen, the essence of human evil, can never be destroyed.
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>>54602812
Nada.
Not even daemonmarines are allowed as KSons anymore
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>>54602847
You need to take some HQs. Then you can spam whatever you want using the detachments in the rulebook.
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>>54602846
I have a picture of GSB's tits?
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After all the nerfs. After all the celebrating of our downfall.

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2017/07/29/bao-first-3-rounds-results-and-videos/

The Tau Commander spam is coming. It seems the celebration of our death was pre-mature Gue'vesa scrubs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNUqOoBBl40
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>>54602847

each unit has a battlefield role. To build an army you select a detachment type and the rules for that detachment will list how many of each unit type it requires and allows.
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>>54602775
>IFP makes a nemesis dreadknight grandmaster model.
>GW can't sue
>Kek3000
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>>54602857
>"All-powerful"
>Literally the bottom bitch for armless the harmless
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>>54602861
>>54602872
nice thanks.
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>>54602851
>>54602854
>>54602856
>>54602865
Pledge you allegiance to Chaos and give me your word that you will aid in the conquest of Konor then I might consider it.
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>>54602738
It has been [IMPLIED] by official sources that a "Khan on Moondragon" model will be released with a datacarudo
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>chaos players get exited about a new codex
>will be released next month
>no new models, no new units

pic related
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>>54602865
d-do you?
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>>54602878
And what does that make the Emperor who actually ran from it.
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I don't know how the fuck someone can cry out 'End of Empire' as his death cry when there wasn't even a concept of empire, kingdom, hell even city exist.

> c'mon ADB it's way too contrived
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>>54602891
Nice try, my friend.
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>>54602891
im already a chaos fag, you should know an oath once broken is worthless.
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>>54602891
Buddy. My Eaters are gonna fuck the beigemarines day up proper.
I don't need your "prompting" to do what comes naturally.
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>>54602910
>implying chaos rats would ever keep an oath anyway without Abbadon there to punish them for trying to fuck around
And this comes from a 100% chaos for life retard
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>>54602891
Already pledged, m8
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>>54602914
Khayon kept his oath to the very end.
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>>54602902
When was this? The emperor zipping around the palace in a wheelchair while abbadon chases him benny hill style?
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>>54602923
Thousands sons are retarded loyalists forced to be traitors
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>>54602899
Dude, I'm not going to share someone else's nudes which they've already taken efforts to scrub off the Internet.
I have at least a fucking shred of decency.
Also I have a price.
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>>54602897
eh the relics/strategems/legion rules
will be nice
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>>54602902
>"Muh ADB"
What does that make Abaddon, who ran away from at that point an ordinary woman and old man?

Oh yeah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
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>>54602927
Webway War.
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>>54602930
>Were
I don't think Magnus is a great guy anymore.
Ahriman... I don't fucking even.
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>>54602931
Really? I thought she didn't mind?
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>>54602937
Pylons. Again, it was the pylons. Celestine was dashed to the ground and Creed lost his arm. They suck.
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>>54601789
>Xenos win
>Points taken from Xenos
?
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>>54602846
The respect and admiration of your peers
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>>54602891
I play Space Sharks and I will build a CSM list out of my guys and run them as Khornate Renegades in my local store's konor campaign if you offer us this boon.
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>>54602951
Xenos can only take points away from another faction, if two xenos armies fight it does exactly that.
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So what happened to Abaddon after his victory over Cadia? Did the gods finally dispose of him?
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>>54602951
>>54602959
It's a xenos 69. What comes out, goes back in again.
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Question, I have the forgeworld " great unclean one" model, and I'm wanting to use it as the Lord of war "scabby the bloated".

Is there a better model? Or will this do? Thinking about getting a corbax model in the future, would that be better?
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>>54602947
>Still a Space Marine in terminator armor with a Primarch's weapon (which he had to loot off his own father) and a big honking sword
>Runs away anyway
>Shits himself at the slightest mention of Guilliman
>Runs away from the Eldar a few pages later
>Too cowardly to face Guilliman himself even as a stasis-bound corpse
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>>54602978
The FW GUO model is supposed to represent Scabby anyways
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>>54602991
Oh, well, great! Had no idea.
Thank you.
Also, I need a plague flail. Any ideas how to make one/ what to use for one? Apart from sculpting it from greenstuff, that is.
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>>54602990
>>Still a Space Marine in terminator armor with a Primarch's weapon (which he had to loot off his own father) and a big honking sword

Gonna get shoot to shit being surrounded by enemies

>Runs away from the Eldar a few pages later

Same as above.

>>Shits himself at the slightest mention of Guilliman

He was going to derail his plans and give the Imperium hope.

>>Too cowardly to face Guilliman himself even as a stasis-bound corpse

Stuck in Cadia last we saw him. Him leaving the place would cause the Crusade to fracture more than it already is. Sent his other forces to take care Girlyman.
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>>54602947
>superhuman in terminator armor punched a woman and an old man
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>>54602970
Bump
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>>54602897
No new models mean no new buying, not bad at all
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>>54603004
>woman was the best trained battle sister in the galaxy. Couldn't land a killing blow on an enemy who wasn't aware of her
>old man is tactical genius who thought it was a GREAT idea to bumrush said superhuman in terminator armor

They do indeed suck.
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It's pretty obvious why they're doing this. They want to gauge chaos against the imperial codex at a base line before they release csm codex, so they can neuter it as they please for not getting completely stomped by the matt ward fan club.

The fact that it's currently sitting at 40/60 is enough for me to say csm will get absolutely nothing in the codex over butthurt narrative fags.
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>TFW That guy brings an army of 6 Vindicares and Cypher to Konor and proceeds to act like an ass. (Rules lawyering, rude, etc)
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>>54603024
>>woman was the best trained battle sister in the galaxy. Couldn't land a killing blow on an enemy who wasn't aware of her

He's wearing terminator armour. Honestly, it's a miracle he was even hurt. Her blade has kinda crappy AP.
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>>54603024
>Gw writing being awful

color me fucking surprised
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Anyone interested in a SM dex? Epub btw.
https://sendit.cloud/5efkkuzc8fmy
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>>54603024
>some guy who is literally just a tactician and some mortal chick couldn't go toe-to-toe with the successor to Horus
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>>54603058
Thanks senpai, will download now.
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>>54603001
>Gonna get shoot to shit being surrounded by enemies
Teleported into the middle of enemy territory without adequate support.

>Same as above
Literally has total command of space and can't dislodge one measly group of enemies over the course of several hours

>He was going to derail his plans and give the Imperium hope.
And he did, while Abaddon sat in the corner sucking his thumb and cried about it for a solid century.

>Him leaving the place would cause the Crusade to fracture more than it already has.
Too late, everyone and their grandma already fucked off and left him with no one.

>Sent other forces to take care of Girlyman.
Pretty pathetic ones too considering how easily he BTFO'd them.
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Why are Space Wolf players so entitled and salty.

One mate at my lgs was perfectly fine running cheesy lists and saw no issues with stomping me down four games in a row.

Then when the codex is out I win one game and suddenly he does not want to play until he gets his codex.

He even claims that the Inceptors are over powered and gets salty saying "I would never run them because I would feel bad" despite also being mad he can no longer get into turn one melee combat with dreadnoughts and shit.

At least the other players at my lgs do not get like this.
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>>54603065
They could, that's why Abaddon is such a pathetic disgrace and still too much of a bitch to face Girlyman.
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Im in the possession of a literal shit ton of dwarfs from warhammer age of sigmar. Im never gonna play age of sigmar so, should i convert these into a squats army of epic proportions or should i sell them for some profit.
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>>54603083
Heh, typical WAACfag piece of shit, sounds like. Fuck him, don't play with him anymore.
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This is Konor news at the 72 hour mark.

Nothing has changed on the ground over the last 12 hours. Both sides have been standing around in their respective trench systems. The only thing that did happen is that a squigeon was caught by a squig hawk. The fact that Orkoid life forms are being seen besides the usual greenskins is concerning however.

In a surprising move, the Eldar have apparently joined in defending the citizens of Astaramis. What exactly that means is anyone's guess, as the last our field correspondent saw, a xenos by the name of Archon K'shaic was seen ferrying hundreds of civilians to safety through some kind of portal. Emperor speed, xenos.

Goodbye and good luck, kill a traitor for us.
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>>54603076
>Teleported into the middle of enemy territory without adequate support.

More could have teleported to his position to help out.

>Literally has total command of space and can't dislodge one measly group of enemies over the course of several hours

It was a last stand of the Imperials but they were aided by the Ynnari which are super Eldar.

>And he did, while Abaddon sat in the corner sucking his thumb and cried about it for a solid century.

We have no fluff about what happened to Abaddon in those 112 years.

>Too late, everyone and their grandma already fucked off and left him with no one.

No, some left not all. The Cadian warzone is still being a thing.
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>>54603089
SQUATS.
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>>54603089
Sell them
Squats are fucking stupid
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>>54603085
>implying the whole Abaddon not facing Rowbro has anything to do with the characters and nothing to do with the fact they're going to save it for a conclusion to something.

Abaddon has fought multiple primarchs and won, including a perfect clone of Horus. Many of whom were known to be particularly good duelists as well as daemons whereas Girlyman kinda got dunked by everyone but Lorgar and maybe Alpharius. Both of whom were bitches.
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>>54603085
You are just throwing your headcanon. For all you know they might have encountered each other in those 100 years.

>>54603065
Do I have to spell it out for you?

Celestine had a free chance to do anything with Abaddon who he was torturing Creed. He was half blind and suffering the psychic pressure of Greyfax. She could have shot him in the face. She could have stabbed him through his hearts. She could have stabbed his head or beheaded him. At most she could have taken an arm or a leg.

Instead she stabbed him in the back causing a minor wound that didn't even do anything but startle him and enrage him.

Now for Creed. Creed didn't come alone. He came with a whole regiment of IG. Instead of acting like a command should by sending his men and tanks to rescue Celestine, he bumrushed Abaddon. He ran at Abaddon, left all of his men, and ran at Abaddon. Abaddon just reached out and grabbed him like a kid. Abaddon instead of giving a monologue should have screamed at him WHAT WERE YOU THINKING
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>>54603058
Anyone got confirmation on this yet?
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>>54603058
This is it. Thank you very much.
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If I take the Black Templar Chapter tactic for my own custom chapter, does that mean I have to have Black Templar limitations such as no Librarians?
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>>54603190
Not RAW.
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>>54603176
can confirm
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>>54603176
Yeah it's the real deal.
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>>54603095
Aye problem is he is a mate from school and is generaly fine outside of the game, plus his army is decently painted.

Its more that he is matt ward tier towards space wolves, believing they should win every battle, have the best warriors etc.

And there is some irony there since I play a codex divergent Ultramarine successor
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>>54603204

I hope that's the case.

I don't feel like the other chapters represent my chapter and the BT seems as close as possible, but I don't want to take it and then be forced to take stuff like Crusader squads.
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Yo anybody got a codex PDF yet?
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>>54603213
Ha, feel your pain mate.
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>>54603232
Fuck. Off.
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>>54603232
Convert it from here.>>54603058
Check the archive for guides on how to do this.
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>>54603232
>https://sendit.cloud/5efkkuzc8fmy
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>>54603058
If legit, thank you. I'll work on converting to PDF asap
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>>54603097
>What exactly that means is anyone's guess, as the last our field correspondent saw, a xenos by the name of Archon K'shaic was seen ferrying hundreds of civilians to safety through some kind of portal. Emperor speed, xenos.
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>>54603176
It works.
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>>54603190

Yes
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>>54603232
I'm going to convert it when I get the epub downloaded. Gotta find the fonts so hold ya horses.
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>>54603257
Good looking out m80
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waaagh!
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>>54603244
Much heart felt gratitude my good and kindly sir
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>>54603250

Does it actually say that anywhere in the book?
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>>54602859
Source? Would love to read about this.
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>>54603244
I'm guessing sendit are hating you lol
>>
Had a terrible realisation as to why my army was so slow, only had a few games in.

I was measuring my distance in centimetres, while my opponents and the game is intended for inches.

What sort of barbarian Brits/Burgers designed this shit and why hasn't it been updated to reflect common sense. Fucking fuming at this. If I'd known I might not have supported the hobby to begin with.
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>>54603380
Why does it even bother you so much?
Just use inches next time.
Easiest shit, even from a metric user
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>>54603380
Have you considered having your IQ tested?
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>>54603380
You can't be real
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>>54603380
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>>54603058
Thanks senpai

What the hell is this /tg/, why were you talking so much bullshit last week?
>>
Newfriend here
Can someone create a new wipg?
Also, are the enhanced digital codice any good?
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>>54603452
There is a Captain on Bike but no one else.
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I just realized my entire army is nothing but chaos infantry, a rhino and two hellbrutes.

Is it possible to run a good army like this?
Should I invest in bikers or demolishers or something?
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>>54603452
>>54603464

Missing are:
Techmarine on Bike
Librarian on Bike
Chaplain on Bike
Ancient on Bike
Apothecary on Bike
Company Champion on Bike
Veterans on Bike
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>>54602812
Is this Eldar dreadknight that was supossed to be Thousand Sons?
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>>54603492
Almost pure infantry has never been more viable, it's still not the best unless you're guard/orks/R&H.
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>>54598486
Im not catering to a fuck wad who cant understand the idea of a vocal minority ill wait the extra day or two if that.
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>>54601681
>The fact that you act like Chaos is the only other faction besides Imperium is exactly why Xenos are fucking you in the ass, faggot

Seriously this.

I doubt chaos is even as popular as some of the xenos factions at this point.
>>
Wait so do I have to put those stupid grappling guns on every single Reiver for WYSIWYG? The grav chutes look cool but I can't help but feel that the guns look dorky as fuck.
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>>54603414
>>54603422
>>54603446

What's it like living in the Stone Age?
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>>54603526
Personally I'd just put one on the sergeant or something
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>>54603537
Whats it like failing at basic reading skills?
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>>54603537
>He doesn't know in Britain we use both.
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>>54603537
It could be a made up unit of measurement for all I care
Guy moves 10 units and shoots gun 20 units

Metric is better, sure, but it makes 0 difference in this case
Get back on your sperg meds ey?
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>>54603493
Kind of removes the argument that the entries aren't there as there are no models for them. Captain on Bike is there but there isn't a model for it...
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>>54603548
>Britain

Have fun being an isolated island sucking Trump's dick while Europe binds together and gets richer.
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>>54603380
>It's basic math anon
>One inch is 2.5 cm
>6" is 15 cm etc etc
Imperials are fucking stupid but unless you're stupid too, converting shouldn't be such a fucking problem you have to complain about it online
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>>54603380
Kek. This will make some tasty pasta.
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>>54603570
I can't believe it's the same anarchocommie AGAIN
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>>54603570
>implying Europe isn't coming apart at the seams
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>>54603380
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>>54603570
The only way they are getting richer is cultural enrichment, lets wait a few years to see if that works well or not
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>>54603570
>>54603607
STOP
This is depressing me. I don't want to be reminded that my children will never know what it is like to be a citizen of Europe and not some shitty isolationist 1984 regime. Why can't we just keep the discussion to plastic crack.
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>>54603568
Nuh-uh, shut up!
>>
List thoughts? Everything here is to buff Bray'arth or bubble wrap him.

++ Unbound Army (Faction) (Imperium - FW Adeptus Astartes) [31 PL, 597pts] ++

+ HQ +

Bray’arth Ashmantle [20 PL, 400pts]

Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought [11 PL, 197pts]: Dreadnought inferno cannon
. Melee weapon: Dreadnought combat weapon, Storm bolter

++ Unbound Army (Faction) (Imperium - Space Marines) [60 PL, 1402pts] ++

+ HQ +

Chaplain [5 PL, 84pts]: Power fist

Librarian [6 PL, 126pts]: 2) Might of Heroes, 5) Psychic Fortress, Combi-melta, Force stave

Techmarine [4 PL, 89pts]: Combi-flamer, Servo-arm, Thunder hammer

Vulkan He'stan [8 PL, 154pts]

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 366pts]: 5x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Flamestorm Gauntlets

Honour Guard [2 PL, 52pts]
. Honour Guard: Power axe
. Honour Guard: Power axe

Honour Guard [2 PL, 52pts]
. Honour Guard: Power axe
. Honour Guard: Power axe

+ Heavy Support +

Devastator Squad [8 PL, 192pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant: Combi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta

Devastator Squad [8 PL, 192pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant: Combi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta

+ Dedicated Transport +

Drop Pod [5 PL, 95pts]: Storm bolter

++ Total: [91 PL, 1999pts] ++

I know it's not currently in detachments, I'd fit it into Vanguards and Supreme Commands.
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>>54603619
>MUH FUK DA GUVAMENT N 1984 N SHIET
It'll be another 4 or 5 years before you can legally have sex so settle down with those children there son.
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>>54603619
>I don't want to be reminded that my children will never know what it is like to be a citizen of Europe

Get them a passport and literally nothing will change aside from having to queue in a different line at border control and you needing travel insurance
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>>54603607
>implying it is

Stay off the /pol/ memes.

Reality is that the pound has collapsed. Great for me, since I buy in Euros. Poor for you lmao.
>>
FYI the SM codex epub is now on the mega link

Queue the epub bitching and pdf converters
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>>54603619
>Why can't we just keep the discussion to plastic crack.

Tell me about your favourite unit of plastic figures anon
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>>54603656
>Reality is that the pound has collapsed. Great for me, since I buy in Euros. Poor for you lmao.

britbonger here, the pound devaluing was a massive boon to myself and anyone who invests or exports

people don't seem to realize that there are massive winners and losers whenever currency changes, its not just only losers
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>>54603640
Seems pretty garbo in the current meta
No way to deal with swarms
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Well just made my first order with the recaster Z, lets hope I dont get screwed.

At least its only a small order with three of the special edition miniatures.
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>>54603673
>tfw remember when the pound used to be worth some 15 swedish crowns
Those were tough times. It's just below 11 crowns right now, making buying from the UK actually affordable. Though so be fair, that first example was in the early 00s. The crown was so fucking strong around 2008 that a dollar was barely worth 6.
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>>54603673
How do you win nigger?

Country is a massive net importer. Enjoy your inflation.
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>>54603301
What the fuck

I love those
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>>54603649
But that sounds like a lot of hard work and racist.
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>>54603380
I had a lot of trouble getting a measuring tape in inches in Spain. In the end i found one in a chinese bazar. The ones from GW and other wargaming brands were expensive as fuck.
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>>54603680
Z is worst recaster. Why didn't you go for Alpharius?
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>>54603717
In general I read the same thing, however for the models I wanted, based on reviews, apparently Alpharius had the worse models of the two, so an exception to the general rule, or just bad luck on that persons behalf.
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>>54603704
>GW tape measure
>5€
>Army Painter tape measure
>4€
>expensive as fuck

wew
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>>54603493
Wow, thats gotta blow for a white scars army. Like one of the only space marine chapters I actually wanna play...
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>>54603679
The Agressors and Bray'arth can do serious work against swarms, what you smoking? 12D6 autohits from the Agressors if they move, Bray'arth with another 2D6 at S6 AP-2. Pop Flamecraft and with Vulkan He'Stan shit will die reeaaally fast.
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>>54603729
Just use the index versions, they still get all the chapter tactics and such.
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>>54603729
You can still use the rules from the Index if they didn't get updated. So fear not Son of the Khan.
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>>54603658
Not that it bothers me, I usually just wait for the pdf, but what app do you use to read epub?
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>>54603743
Readium for Chrome
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>>54603688
work as accountant for my families auction who's main customer base exports, monthly profit since brexit has increased by about 30% and is still increasing

as for investments I split into property and overseas equities, both of which are profiting from the £ dropping, last i checked i made roughly 28% return on investment across all of them

Yeah i know inflation will wipe some of it out, however as long as you have a decent investment portfolio and the customers don't leave I'm very confident that my gains will outpace that
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>>54603743
IT SAYS WHICH ONES YOU SHOULD USE IN THE OP

baka anon
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>>54603263
>>54603743
Enjoy your PDF https://sendit.cloud/bgzf3vrxgm5f
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>>54603640
Why are you unbound?
That looks like a Vanguard and Supreme HQ detatchment to me?
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>>54603730
It's only one squad though, and they aren't all that tough or mobile.
Any decent player is going to focus them first, and then you're fucked.
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Fuck me Inceptors look gorgeous. This artwork is positively bitchin. I want to make a starship trooper army of these guys now.
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>>54603763
Not him, but its far easier to make a list unbound in battlescribe and then just sort out detatchments later

its not like its hard to fit whatever you want into bound lists right now, its almost a joke unless you are specifically looking for more CP, which you can just get girly man for or something
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>>54603760
Emperor bless you, Anon.
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>>54603755
Yeah that's pretty baka of me desu
>>54603760
Damn! Thanks, anon.
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Another Gabriel Angelos model but giant.
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>>54603640
bare in mind that brayarth cant be your warlord because of that chaplain
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>>54603789
Armour is fucking neat, but that head is just absurd.
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Thoughts on this?
Gonna use Strike From the Shadows on one lieutenant and alpha with him, Lias and the vets

>>54603760
Thanks anon!
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>>54603778
They have a lot of potential, but I think most people hate them because of the mono-pose ones from the starter set (which look fucking retarded in my opinion).
But yeah, the regular ones look pretty fucking rad, especially with their visors closed.
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>>54603780
I dunno, man.
I usually find it helpful to have the framework done and ready to follow.
But to each their own I suppose.
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>>54603778
I feel like the pose of the Inceptor models let them down more than anything; they just look awkward.
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>>54603802
It's a (I hope) fluffy list to be used against casual non-WAACfags
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>>54603796
Do you think theres a helmet one could use to replace his head?
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>>54603802
>>54603802
tarantulas are cheap but incredibly shit, you cant fire at what you choose, its just the closest model

drop them and something else so you can fit 2 or 3 assault cannon razorbacks in, 100 points each for 12 shots hitting on 3+, 14 shots if you add a storm bolter

other than that looks decent
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>>54603789
that's just a more to scale variant
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>>54603824
I'd hope so. They did it for Guilliman atleast.
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>>54603808
>regular ones look pretty fucking rad, especially with their visors closed

My nigga
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>>54603760
Thanks!
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>>54603828
Just wanted them to shoot at hordes and to keep enemies away

I've no troops to fit in them Razorbacks since anything that needs to get close can get close through abilities. Are there any better alternatives? Maybe a Land Speeder or Storm could work?
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>>54603845
>those fucking names
>plasma exterminators
>plasma incinerators

And I thought the GK had stupid names
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>>54603866
landspeeders with heavy flamers can work, but in terms of efficiency razorbacks are incredible right now, you dont need to use them as transport, just as a gun platform with tonnes of accurate dakka
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>>54603811
>>54603778
If they had the pose of the image I posted, they'd be perfect.
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>>54603760
Confirmed best anon
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>>54603845
>regular ones look pretty fucking rad, especially with their visors closed
definitely better looking, still an awkward pose though

>>54603868
exterminator and incinerator are perfectly reasonable names, no worse than devastator

Aggressor and Inceptor aren't so good though
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>>54602186
Thanks Anon, I'll give that a try.
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I've been meaning to ask, how are Assassins this edition? I always liked the Vindicare and Eversor back when I played in 2nd Edition but I was playing orks at the time, now I'm starting up fresh with Marines I thought they'd be a fun addition.
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>Enemy Swarmlord, Starweaver, Harlequin Troupe, Troupemaster, Shadowseer, and Skyweavers all charge in/stack on an allied Ultramarine Tactical Squad. (Who can fall back out of range.)

>My Cyclops Demolition Vehicle is 6 inches away.
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>>54602793
>"That's some webpage, not official rules."
If you're playing with people who are a combination of:
a) fucking idiots
b) wannabe rules lawyers
c) cheaters

then you're not going to have a good time.
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>>54603904
Good for their points but wont achieve much.
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>>54603904
2 vindicares are great to snipe a buffing HQ and are surprisingly tanky, -2 to hit, 4++, 5 wounds
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>>54603760
Confirmed tho links etc don't work
Can I fix that easily from just Googling?

>>54603875
Thanks anon, will look it up
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>>54603919
You are now realizing that you are essentially talking to a rules lawyer right now.
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>>54603796
He's getting his bigly upgrades, they just started with his forehead.
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Rolled 10 (1d10)

Don't mind me.

1. White Scars
2. Novamarines
3. Silver Skulls
4. Deathwatch
5. White Panthers
6. Mentors
7. Iron Snakes
8. Raven Guard
9. Black Guard
10. Homebrew Chapter
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>>54603912
Proof
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>>54603944
Your Dudes it is
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Finally starting work again on my 20 unfinished Custodes. Hopefully I'll have these done before Wednesday.
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>With its former leader, Cato Sicarius, declared lost, its command fell to Captain Acheran
>With its former leader, Cato Sicarius, declared lost,
> Cato Sicarius, declared lost

HE'S FINALLY FUCKING DEAD. LONG HAVE I WAITED FOR THIS.
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>>54602687
Why the fuck is this in Japenese format
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>>54602789
do you have a link to that FAQ, anon?
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>>54602738
Kor'sarro Khan is just a captian not a Chapter Master.
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>>54603934
>You are now realizing that you are essentially talking to a rules lawyer right now.
Nothing wrong with actual rules lawyers. A clear understanding of what the rules actually say is important.

Wannabe rules lawyers that jump through ridiculous hoops to argue their headcanon as RAW are just scum.
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>>54603924
Thats okay, if take them it'll be more for fun than anything, but it'd be nice if they weren't actively bad.

>>54603932
Neat, I've got a lot of anti horde and anti armor shooting, so that would mesh nicely.
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>>54603933
Just re-link them to the correct pages using foxit pdf creator or something. I am sure someone will make a linked and bookmarked version soon.
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>>54603958
>Oops, I guess he's gone
>To take his place is the Primaris marine Kato Cicarius

Smooth transition
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>>54603944
>>54603951
let us know what kind of your dudes your dudes end up being
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>>54603958
>declared lost

yeah no, he's propably going to return as a primarine
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>>54603990
Or Dreadnought.
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>>54603990
Kidnapped by Cawl
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>>54603997
Or chaos!
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>>54603997
getting a named ironclad would be pretty sick, shame it would be an ultramarine tho

I can imagine the constant "BUT I, DREADNOUGHT SICARIUS" if you ever fielded him though
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>>54602655
Too bad it's a manlet even for marinelets standards
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>>54603958
Lad, he's back by the end of the Crusade.
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>>54603958
>2 man vet squad with plasma gunner and powerfist
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>>54603760
Damn was really hoping they would at least have rules for a primaris techmarine to kindle hope for a later release. Oh well, mayybe just pick up a manlet techy for my supplementary detachment.

Thank you very much for the pdf Anon, you a rocking dude.
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I have to say, as far as the visuals are concerned, this codex is a BIG step up from the previous one.
The "chapter colours" pages no longer look like a fucking colouring book for kids.

Altough I have to say, I feel like they're really overusing the primaris marines. I mean, I get it, they're the new hot shit, but do they really have to be insterted on almost every single page?
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>>54604043
Hell, we even got some cool art that doesn't look digital and even has actual BLOOD in it.

Way to go GW.
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>>54603958
>inb4 Cato returns as 1st company captain with a primarine model

Also, does this mean the DI gravis captain is the official 2nd company Ultramarine captain now?
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>>54602332
There aren't daemon princes of undivdided now except Bel'akor, pertuabo is a prince of Nurgle now, and lorgar is either tzeentch or khorne depending on who you listen to
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>>54604043
>I feel like they're really overusing the primaris marines
>primaris on the cover
>every chapter colour scheme displayed on a primaris
>most models in the gallery section are primaris
>the only SM models released this edition are primaris

Gee, whatever gave you that idea?
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>>54602041
>power was his own
No he went to Molech and stepped into the realm of chaos then got blessed by each god, just like the emperor was in m25
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>>54604047
ok, that art looks cool as fuck
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>>54602134
>recreate Horus
No theyre using daemon weapons and want to kill the emperor to bring him back
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>>54602150
>not realising Germanic means all of Western Europe and the margeb because it's a linguistic term
Germany without Austria is the joke which should have ended, anyway most Germans still identify by region because it wasn't a united germany but a Prussian dictatorship
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>>54604101

t. butthurt south-german
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>>54604047
literally 3 editions old kiddo
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>>54603958
I think he will come back when Mortarion arrives at Ultramar. Hell probably get a new mini, primaris style.
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>>54604047
It's good art because it's old art anon.

They've seriously declined in that department the last couple years.
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Rules question: Do combat squads count as individual units for grenades? Like, if I combat squad a 10 man unit into 2 5 man units, can they both throw a grenade in the same turn?
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>>54603727
5€ + 5€ of shipping.

I ended up paying 1,5€ so yeah, in comparison it is expensive as fuck.
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>>54603136
Dude chainswords LMAO
>>54604160
>not buying from your local GW or having it shipped there along with other essentials
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*open up the new codex*
"oh boy let's see the cool new rules"
*it's all in power points, AGAIN*

Whoever decided this was a good idea should be hanged. Not even joking. This shit is so inconvenient.
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>>54604159
>counts as individual units
>but do they count as individual units?
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>>54604131
Countdown to Cat-o defeating Mortarion in single combat.
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>>54604159
Once you deploy them, they're treated as individual units
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>>54604193
Sorry that everyone but you is normal and doesn't have autism
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>>54604190
because every town in Spain has a local GW.

And I'm not going to buy shit I don't need from GW just to get a measure tape without the shipping cost.
>>
Fixing PDF content links atm so we don't work on multiple copies
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Anyone have read Beast Arise series? How did the human cattle farm go in that series? Because IIRC the Orks metabolize using photosynthesis or something. Did they eat human flesh or something? Or what?
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>>54604160
>doesn't have a FLGS to buy or order stuff to

And what sort of a rinky dink measuring tape did you get for 1.5€?
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What have you guys been working on this weekend 40kg?

Mine is pic related.

Repaired, prepared, built, and cleaned up three eldar wave serpents.
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>>54604231
That's some sneaky wave serpents!
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>>54604231
loving the camo paintjob anon
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>>54604203
I, for one, really enjoy flipping back and forth through the book to find unit entries, point costs, wargear lists, point costs, etc.

But hey, at least I don't have to go looking up what that one special rule the unit has is, in the conveniently collected list of special rules.
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>>54604231
Proper job there mate
Been learning to paint, going mediocre
Currently >>54604218
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>>54604203
>he thinks having a fucking chart at the end of the book instead of normal points values is ok

Fuck off. They could've easily kept the old format of the army list and just added power points on the side and/or at the end of the book. It would've been much more convinient for most people.
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>>54604253
>>54604264
Sorry that everyone but you two is normal and doesn't have autism
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>>54604231

shit photo because i can't find my camera

6 days left to finish these off for the north west open, not much left to do now

>4 scion with HS lasguns
>2 vindicares
>24 bases to do
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>>54604231
Finally basing my other brimstones, working on the last flamers and screamer I have, and then a pile of rubrics and horrors is going to pile onto me.
>>
>>54604203
Pretty sure it's deliberate so you have more of a reason to buy their army builder when it's eventually released.
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>>54604293
>inb4 only people with autism need an army builder program
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>>54603958
EVERY old Space Marine character is going to have to be killed off or chadmarined up. Be prepared for this.
>>
>>54604193
Theres regular points at the back again. Nothing to rage at.
>>
I couldn't see the Conversion Beamer in the weapons point. Have they removed it as an option for Techmarines? Have their stats also went down considering they've been brought down to 45 points?
>>
>>54604312
you can use the index profile for the beamer
>>
>>54604253
>I, for one, really enjoy flipping back and forth through the book to find unit entries, point costs, wargear lists, point costs,
So exactly the same as the last few edditions then. Whats the issue?
>>
>>54604315
>>54604315
>>54604315
new thread
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>>54604312
Modern GW hates conversions, so they got rid of the conversion beamer.
>pottery
>>
>>54604312
>Have they removed it as an option for Techmarines?

Yes, because GW doesn't make a model for it, unlike biker captain. Oh, wait...
>>
>>54604269
You keep bringing autism up anon, are you all right? You seem a bit insecure, and we're only expressing our opinions about the format of the new codex.
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>>54604318
>exactly

You must have had some 3rd party knock-off books if that's the case. All the books I have listed the unit cost and vast majority of the point costs in the unit entry. And if there was some unit that got to take options from a list, the point costs for those options were listed along with the upgrades in their section.
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>>54604304
Autism is a form of retardation but not all retarded people are autistic, so it would be more accurate to say that only people who are mentally retarded need a program to read a book and do addition for them.
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>>54604348
>not being lazy and wanting a list building program you can mess around in
I don't understand you people
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>>54604341
Right, but unit rules were seperate, so you were still flicking between rules unit entries, points costs and wargear lists pages.
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>>54604369
>needing a program to keep track of multitude of options and point costs and to see the direct effects of changing options and unit composition on the fly, rather than trying to remember everything you had taken and what they cost

Classic retardation, if you ask me.
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>>54602136
Fucking thin your paints.
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>>54604398
>rather than trying to remember everything you had taken and what they cost
It's called a pen and paper.
You kids and your apps for everything are so shortsighted.
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>>54604420
>2017
>owning a pen
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>>54604378
>pick a unit
>add cost
>look up options
>add cost
>flip to wargear list
>add cost

vs.

>pick a unit
>flip to point cost page
>add cost
>flip to unit
>choose options
>flip to point cost page
>add cost
>flip to unit page
>choose wargear list
>flip to wargear page
>choose wargear
>flip to point cost page
>add cost

Why can't the point cost be listed in the unit entry? Why can't option costs be listed in the unit entry? Why can't wargear list have the cost of the individual options?

It's almost like an afterthought they stapled to the back of the book at the last minute. It's not good formatting.
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>>54604420
>needs a pen and paper
>doesn't use a clay tablet and an abacus

Well laadeedaa, Mr. 1% Millennial.
>>
>>54604445
>not memorizing the costs and rules for the more used units and weapons after the first read
>not memorizing every cost, profile and special rule after a couple reads
Brainlets, will they ever learn?
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>>54604503
They literally can't, that's their problem
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>>54604503
So you agree that the current formatting, where all the special rules and weapon profiles are listed in the unit entries because USR was too hard are for brain dead babbys?
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Picked up a flying croissant on a whim because I don't have a flyer. I know Crons already have flyers, but no actual aircraft other than this.

Is it actually a worthwhile unit to take? I was thinking of going the Night Scythe over Doom Scythe because I already have a Stalker and Heavy Destroyers.
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>>54604538
Yes 7th and current formatting are dogshit
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>>54604590
I've fought against necrons a ton of times in 8th and I haven't had very much trouble killing their aircraft since you can hit them at only -1 now. They're alright, but I actually managed to charge and melee one to death in a single turn with a flying demon prince.

I'm a lot less worried about those than I am about fucking necron vehicles like doomsday ark that have living metal, quantum shielding and can fall back and still fire because they have fly. The actual flyer type units for necron seem a little weaker to me, but admittedly I have never seen the transport one used well, I usually just shoot them down first turn with a bunch of missile launchers.
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>>54602504
Nurgle.
He used Nurgle sorcery.
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>>54602502
I think I found carnac.
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>>54604231
Building my first proper set of dudes not from a starter set, rubric marines.
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>>54604606
Current isn't awful, at worse it's a bit scattered. The only real change I'd like to see is points cost being shown alongside power rating, not burried at the back of the book.
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>>54604808
Yeah, I hear less and less good things about the transport version the more I check out forums.

Not so useful when you have units in reserve that instantly get deleted when the flyer dies. At least with the monolith, they have to slug through wounds and focus fire it.

Might just make the Heavy version of the Scythe and use it to buzz ground troops and snatch up objectives.
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>>54604829
Just finished my "To Build" pile, now onto paint prep.

Current list to paint:

5x Immortals
1x Doom Scythe
1x set of the Objective Marker things that released with 8th edition
10x Praetorians
20x Warriors
1x Overlord
1x Pimp Mobile
2x Cryptek (Waiting on Orikan and Zandrek to be stocked)
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>>54604320
>Modern GW hates conversions
>Has conversion guides on their youtube channel, white dwarf and community site.
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>>54605256
The one in the mega? Why should you?
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So - I decided to buy some classic plague marines for my Black Legion army. Should I equip them with close combat weapons or ranged weapons?

Also - I want to paint their armor black but give them this whole Nurgle feel. I don't want to paint them as picrel (I believe it's Death Guard theme) and just give them one black pauldron as GW is suggesting. Any tips how to make it right?
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