Warhammer 40k General 40kg

>>54584041
It's kind of sad how he actually went and bought base extenders to get to 32mm, and then Primaris came out.

>>54584064
Why would you ever buy base extenders?

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Whats a better way to spend my last 100 points in a 1000 point list, a 5 man Intercessor Squad or a Whirlwind?

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FOR THE SHADOW REALM!

Why does OP call it a Chaos Comeback? They still seem to be losing 30% to 70%, from looking at the site.

>>54584072
>t. 25mm manlet whose girlfriend gets bullied by the other girls at school

>>54584078
I would go with a whirlwind unless you are really light on infantry

>>54584065
>original non-legion RG upgrade kit
>black plasma coils
>GW terrain

Patrician taste.

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>>54584091
Chadmarines don't have girlfriends in the first place

>>54584084
Chaos have made gains I guess?

>mfw people are keeping track of Konor campaign like a sports game

I-Is this what it feels like to be a normie?

>>54584084

Desperate denial is a thing.

desu after some testing I still prefer classic marines over chads.
No rhinos and no special weapons is a huge drawback.

>>54584065
the beakies look better than the primaris

>>54584115
I know man! And yeah given the reactions I've seen from this campaign and my experience with normies I'd say this is the feel.

>>54584115
Not really unless you beat loyalists/traitors with baseball bat and are an annoying drunk bitch every night.

>>54584122
Where can I subscribe to your blog?

>>54584084
60/40 actually.

>>54584091
thanks for the conversation

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>>54584065
Beakies a best!

>>54584091
Wait are you genuinely still at school?
Kek, what a virgin

>>54584093
the intercessors have obsec

>>54584136
Ask your mom about it.

>>54584093
>I would go with a whirlwind unless you are really light on infantry

I am; two dev squads, a captain, a techmarine, a razorback, venerable dread and a thunderfire.

Whirlwind would be more dakka and would give my techs more to fix, but I really suspect my lack of warm bodies is going to hurt me.

>>54584122
Just wait till the Repulsor is out
Seems pretty OP so far

>>54584156
>he doesn't know the meme

kek what a newfag

>>54584122
Repulsors, Aggressors and Hellblasters.

>>54584122
the dadbodmarines have one thing going for them though that is generally underestimated: range. if it's footsloggers versus footsloggers, they're goign to double-tap first. however, if you bring tacticals properly in a rhino, as you should, that advantage falls away.

>>54584158
t. is too young to hold a conversation

>>54584164
Not to mention that all future things will be chad marines only not mantlet marines ?

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>>54584156

>>54584159
warm bodies can be quite easily removed though. if the terrain you're playing on has more big LOS blockers, choose whirlwind. if you got plenty of craters and ruins, choose intercessors and get those cover save modifiers.

For regular squiggoths would converting other GW monsters count? Like an arachnok or that new orc dragon

>>54584164
landraiders, terminators and gravdevs.

>>54584163
>>54584177
>implying I dont lurk here all the god damn time
>implying epikmay mays are an excuses for stil being a high school virgin
HAHAHA YOU GUYS PROBABLY DONT EVEN HAVE GCSEs HAHA

Are Defilers good? I really like the weapons but they have both ws and bs 4+

>>54584195
Yeah, but he said no rhinos or special weapons, yet there they are.

Unless he's running nothing but Intercessors, he has them.

Would heavy plasma incinerators on hellblasters be good with a captain or other model that enables them to re-roll To Hit rolls, thus avoiding the unfortunate issue of blowing up when firing overcharged shots. Or should one just use the regular plasma incinerators?

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How's this list looking for orkz?

>Forcefield for the two blobs of boyz and a weirdboy and waaaghbanner to support
>Bike Forcefield for the stormboyz and wagon full of meganobz and ghazzy racing up
>blitzabommer for elite infantry

Thoughts?

>>54584156
you're trying too hard, anon

>>54584198
>knew about the meme
>asks if Anonymous is actually still a high schooler when referencing said meme

Sure thing bud. You """totally""" """""""knew"""""""".

>>54584220
I don't fink ya can fit dat many boyz completely unda da force field, boss.

sooo knowing the strategems relicts warlord traits and chapter tactics is anyone still convinved that Ultramarines arent the best chapter ?

>>54584217
Heavy incinerators with stalker captain, same range and the caps not just hustling dice

>>54584248
9inch bubble is massive mang, no more templates means you can pile em in as tight as you like.

>>54584243
[citation needed]

>>54584248
9" is a lot of room, and don't forget the boyz only need to have a tiny sliver of the base within 9", so long as EVERY boy has a sliver so you get some leeway with the outer boyz

>>54584185
noted, thanks anon

>>54584213
agressors aren't tactical marines equivalents, they are tactical terminator equivalents. so you're making the wrong comparison. also aggressors is a misnomer, they should be properly named gunline defenders

>>54584078
Girlywind

>>54584259
nope, they got the best package. salamanders and ravenguard are kinda on equal footing though. it's not an auto-win against either of those chapters.

Anyone got that sweet 8e SM codex ePub?

>>54584041
Greetings my fellow Imperial Citizens.

I, as a dutiful human being of the Imperium, wish to read up on the history and lore of our glorious Empire, its God Emperor and the wars have fought and will forever fight.

Could somebody from this beautiful space here point me to a chronological list of Warhammer 40K novels?

>>54584270

Except the rule for the force field is that the ork unit has to be ENTIRELY within the 9"

Order from chinaman Z arrived. Will post pics later once I'm home from work.

Tartaros Terminators
Word Bearers Contemptor Dreadnought
Legion Primus Medicae
Imperial Space Marine
Space Marine Sergeant Telion
Steloc Aethon
MK II Space Marine Assault Squad
Warpsmith

>>54584290
>I, as a dutiful human being of the Imperium, wish to read up on the history and lore of our glorious Empire
say that around the inquisitor and you're toast my man

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>>54584290
Here's the "order" for reading the HH novels, if it helps.

>>54584288
>it begins

>>54584292
>>54584270
>it also begins

New marines codex leaked yet?

>>54584212
No they aren't very good.

>>54584292
Entirely in this case is ambiguous, as it could mean entirely as in "every single model", especially since measurement is explained in the rulebook as being the closest point on the base to the closest point on the other base to measure between. It could also mean "the entire base of every single model" but they tend to use the word "wholly" when they mean that.

>>54584261
Something like that. Is 5 dudes enough or should I got for more?

>>54584320
This, anyone?

Are Intercessors worth it now that you can take 10 rather than 5?

20 S4 -1 AP 30inch shots sounds pretty tasty

>>54584041
>Don't you love my son? He's so tall!

>>54584041
what the fuck.

after a couple of months I came back to 40k related stuff again, and really what the fuck


>there you have primaris space marines. they are like space marines, but have 4 implants that, erhm, make them bigger and stronger!
>oh, and a fucking primarch, uh, healed up and is leading the imperium


I know we all wanted the lore to progress and you guys probably already said all that had to be said about this, but this is so fucking underwhelming to me

>>54584320
>>54584336
It's been leaked via video and photos for a while. No scans yet.

>>54584286
Yup agree on salamanders and ravenguard but the combinanation of all elements makes Ultras tad more powerfull. I especialy don't like ravenguard warlord trait :/

>>54584342

OH, I'm SORRY. Is a literal DEMI-GOD not good enough for you? Is COMING BACK TO LIFE FROM THE DEAD not good enough for you? Is making your superhuman angels of death even more super not GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU?!?!?!?!?!

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?!?!?!

Is the gk start collecting confirmed?

>>54584293
Please do. Cheers.

I don't get it, do I have to charge or can I just come up to 1' of a unit i want to melee with?

>>54584353
Bigger character = better story
obviously

>>54584342
what would you have done anon, I think its alright

>>54584326

It's ambiguous if you're an ass hat.

The force field in narrative is a dome around the mek boy. Just because you have your toe in the dome doesn't mean you get its benefits.

Sure, the FAQ likes to say "wholly", but that was also added in after the fact because ass hats who like to argue ambiguity say "well I'm WHITHIN my deployment zone, RIGHT???"- fuck you, you know damn well what they meant

I'm an ork player, but I just really dislike people who try to make these arguements of ambiguity

>>54584367
Well it would start with the lizard men not having BS 2+ with fucking rocks.

>>54584362
Literraly true tho.

>>54584369
Except the FAQ explicitly unambiguates it.

Q: Can you clarify what the difference is between ‘wholly within’
and ‘within’ for rules purposes?
A: If a rule says it affects units/models that are ‘wholly
within’ then it only applies if the entire unit/model is
within. If it just says ‘within’, however, then it applies so
long as any part of the unit/model is within.

>>54584338

Oh damn it Ishoyld say 15inch range

>>54584177
>not having a sugar daddy with RTB-01s

>>54584338
Worth with 5 worth with 10 - just different units desu

>>54584361
You can, but when it comes to the fight phase there's no guarantee that the unit that just waddled on up will fight first unless you manually select it.

And if you're in movement range to engage melee, why not just move a short distance and roll to get the charge benefits for the last bit?

>>54584290
You don't know what you are getting into. The "cannon" is really inconsistent and there is nothing like timeline (except for HH, as was pointed out already). For getting into the hellhole of W40K fluff, I would suggest Eisenhorn trilogy, Mechanicum trilogy or Gaunt's Ghosts.

>>54584338
only if your list lacks firepowers against footslogging infantry and your enemy doesnt spam high strength multi-wound attacks. for backfield holders, tacticals are still probably better due to the heavy weapon and for going forward duty, they have access to the rhino or assback

intercessors aren't inherently better or worse than tacticals, it all depends on overall list composition and your local meta.

>>54584367
I think what I really dislike is the introduction of these space marines 2.0.
It kinda ruins the idea of all the other 40k astartes for me, I don't really know how to explain it. They're not as symbolic as before.

On the other hand, I kinda excepted Guilliman to return so no big deal I guess. Me, I would like to witness the Lion's return too, but hey, babysteps

>>54584361
You can't do it in the movement phase, you have to either charge, pile in or consolidate.

>>54584362
I'd just say "bigger story". Doesn't necessarily make it "better." Or if we must go with better, replace "story" with "setting".

Quite frankly I'm not denying that primarchs aren't a driving force for 30k, but when you read some of the stuff, they just come across as autistic idiots. I think that's a big problem with larger than life characters, they're literally too big as anything other than set dressing. You can't have superman be the hero and guiding light of humanity, and at the same time have him living any sort of normal life without that reducing his grandeur, and if you do that, when how is he this big personality anymore?

>>54584348
>I especialy don't like ravenguard warlord trait
t. not playing regularly against tau

>>54584369
Except your 'narrative' argument about the force field being a dome kind of falls apart with the new rules anyway m8.

>27 boyz under the dome but 1 boy wanders out
>now none of the boyz count as being under the dome

You shouldn't try to make the rules make sense because they never will.

>>54584361
You can't. In the movement phase you are barred from coming within an inch. You can charge one or more units, then use your consolidate+pile in to get within 1" of a different enemy unit, or can do the same if charged. However, if you charged you can only attack the unit or units you charged, so this is just tying them up until the next round. For a combat to happen one unit must have charged another unit at some point, but other units may end up dragged into the fight without charging or being charged.

>>54584338
They're only good for being hard to kill, their damage per point is as bad as a basic tactical marine.

Anyone else so disappointed with all the removed options in the new Space Marine codex? Almost al the bike units gone, rifle-man dread gone, weapon options such as the conversion beamer for the techmarine gone. Sure we can still use them, but it feels like GW is hating upon the conversion side of the hobby. How should we complain to them?

>>54584449
That's not how that works.
If you have say, 5 boyz outside the shield, you roll 5 saves at a time, till all the ones outside are dead, and then you start using the force field rules for the rest of them

>>54584468
That's how you do it in practice. RAW, none of the models have the 5+ invul unless every member is within 9.

>>54584466
By posting frequently in all caps on 4chan and reddit.

>>54584466
The chapter house case has forced their hand.

Its not about stopping conversions, but stopping other companies from making one.

>>54584466
Options that require conversions are a meme from the nineties

Where the fuck is my C:SM download link anons

>>54584316
>must be readed first
>readed

Chaos Gods:

Nurgle>Khorne>Slaanesh>Tzeentch

>>54584498
>>54584499
So GW's plan is to stop people buying 3rd party? Even though all those things can be made with their own bits and Forge World models and bits? I'm not fully following this logic.

>>54584513
Nah, it goes:

Nurgle at the height of his power>the others
The others>Nurgle the rest of the time
Khorne>Slaanesh
Tzeentch>Tzeentch>Tzeentch>Tzeentch>Tzeentch<Tzeentch>Tzeentch>Tzeentch<Tzeentch

>>54584513
Nurgle<Khorne<Slaanesh<Tzeentch

>>54584222
>t. Virgin loser

>>54584115
Yeah, it's not quite on the level of "breathless sports commentator talking about a Pokemon game" dumb, but it's still quite dumb. At least the commentary is fan-made and not from some official sports program.

>>54584528
GW tried to sue Chapterhouse for making models they didn't make, they lost this case in 6e, the late 6e and early 7e codecies did away with all models for which this was issue, people now blame Chapterhouse for everything GW removes.

>>54584528
They stopped giving options you can't build from boxes to avoid third party resellers to grab portions of their market share. Che court judged that third parties can build parts for options that are not in the original box. Things FW gives rules for are in the FW indexes, see Mortis dreadnought for an example

>>54584191
Sure. Maybe even a looted Tervigon. But don't expect it to be tournament-legal because "muh non-standard model size"

>>54584513
Slaanesh>Tzeentch>Nurgle>Khorne

>tfw homebrewed an Alpha Legion primaris successor
>tfw convince my GW manager to file my wins as wins for Chaos

Hydra Dominatus.

>>54584212
No, it's shit. It's supposed to be a heavy weapon platform yet hits on 5+ if it so much as moves a robo-pinky and its BS also degrades with damage taken. Sure you can gear it toward CC but then you still have that worthless Battle Cannon you can't get rid of. And the Wound-count isn't that impressive when a Lascannon can shave up to 6 points off of it.

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IS THIS FAGGOT RIGHT ?
IT CANNOT BE.

WHATS is the FUCKING point of SW of WE can just pile up THREE FUCKING Combat Phase ?
WHY can't my Wulfen even compete ?
WHY is GW such a chaos wanker ?
I'M DONE woth rhis fucking game IF this is true.
SELLING EVERYTHING.

>looking over the content of next HH Forge World book
>About BA, DA and Dark Mechanicum and Night Lords
>Reading shit
>The Siege of Baal

What? When the fuck did Baal get put under siege in HH? Pretty sure after Signus Prime Sanguinius ordered his fleet to Ultramar? Or maybe he went to Baal first, broke siege, then to Ultramar, was proclaimed Emperor then got to Terra?

Also fucking hell at Sanguinius' artwork.

>>54584421
I bet you'd like to witness the Lion rise again ... all big and strong mhmmm

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>>54584563
>This heretic actually betraying the Emperor

>>54584217
I think the Heavy version is shit. Sure the range is nice for keeping them out of harm's way, but the lack of a second shot really hurts them. The one good thing about them is that S8 is good enough to hurt Marines on 2+ without overcharging and the S9 while overcharged can hurt a Land Raider on 2+, but at that point I'd rather take a Las-Predator.

>>54584386
The issue there is that in this case there's a third term, it's not just "wholly within" and "within" but also "entirely within", but not only that, perhaps more importantly in this case it says unit not model, so it's absolutely unclear what they mean by "unit entirely within" until there's some clarification. Typically I just side with my opponent in this case though just to keep the game running smoothly.

>>54584421
>>54584585
Kek

Easy to being him back too, he's just in a statis chamber in the closet

>>54584580
Don't trust people that cosplay Joker, you nibba.

>>54584580
>Long War
>+1S

I call bullshit. That's on top of every other buff, that means Chapters like BA are gonna be fucking shit cause you can bet your ass BA will only get +1S on charge.

But you're just memeing for reactions.

>>54584600
>nibba
I wish Reddit would fuck off

>>54584580
>night lords pay 1CP to get the ability raven guard have on all the time
Yeah, that loyalist parade sure is getting rained on.
I'm not bitter, noooo.

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>>54584580

>>54584580
Look at the GW WD preview pictures.

>>54584580
Sounds nice
Shame it's not likely to be true.

>>54584607
BA don't have to pay a CP for it, and get it on more than one unit per phase.

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>>54584580
Don't sell it, furry fag. Nobody wants your shit. Burn it and play some shitty Old Norse-inspired metal in the background. Then upload it on YouTube for us to fap over.

>>54584546
If you read the court case, GW was even suing them for making models they themselves made. Trying to claim ownership of arrows and Roman numerals and shit. It was a shitshow. But here's the thing, conversion beamers, bikes, dreadnought autocannons, everything has GW models, at least through Forge World. Just like with medusas, griffons, vendettas, etc.

Why does GW think people find it easier to buy a 3rd party piece rather than a GW piece?

>>54584548
But vast majority of 3rd party bits I see are just alternatives to existing GW bits. So should GW stop making rules for any of their models, because 3rd party alternatives exist? Should a Space Marine commander be unable to take a combi-flamer or combi-grav because the old commander box comes with just a plasma and melta, and no way is anyone gonna figure out how to take a combi-flamer from, say, a sternguard kit and put it on him. No, it's much easier to go and buy a shitty 3rd party "combination flamethrower" and work it into his hands somehow.

>>54584612
You're a fucking retard is what you are.
Raven Guard only get to keep their bonus outside of 12", aka outside of where it would actually matter. In Midnight Clad gives the bonus to a unit that needs it regardless of how far away the enemy is from it.

>>54584585
>>54584597
am I missing some meme

>>54584649
Dangels are literally homofaggots.

>>54584587
On the other hand, you only get a second shot at 15" range.

>>54584635
But anon, court cases aside, it is confusing and frustrating having tasty weapon options you can't model with the original box. It also encourages going against wysiwyg. So I think they also went for the less confusing options and got rid of the need for conversions.

For your combiweapon point, notice that the new primaris qgs can only take what they have on the sprue. No extra stuff.

>>54584663
Or you take the Assault version, which comes with two shots for the entirety of its 24" range.

>>54584649
It's not really a meme... it's been part of DA lore since the beginning.

Lion El'Johnson is literally the English poet Lionel Johnson, who wrote the poem "The Dark Angel" where the dark angel is symbolic of temptation; in his case, his repressed homosexuality and his conversion to Catholicism in an attempt to squash it.

>>54584587
It hurts a Land Raider on 3+

So I'm hearing rumours that my TSon wont be in the Chaos Codex? Any other info on this?
Seems odd to me that we'd get our own dex when we only have 6ish models for our own.

>>54584699
whoops, yeah, typo.

>>54584673
You see frustrating and confusing, I see opportunity for conversion and enjoyment of making something new.

>>54584675
It's also S6.

>>54584663
But you can move and fire without penalty, so it's effectively 21 when comparing it to the heavy variant.

>>54584702
The CSM dex Is *probably* going to have both Death Guard and Thousand Sons in it, but expect a mini-dex for Thousand Sons later, probably along some more releases to get them to the same size as the Death Guard.

>>54584702
Current index has 47 data sheets
Next one is going to apparently have 45
Sounds a lot like they are going to be removing Plague Marines and Rubric Marines

>>54584702
They will get their own codex. But it's important to remember Thoudand Sons are getting the codex so things like basic rubic/tzeentch marines are still in the heretic astartes codex.

Something lots of people forget about cults. For example not all plague marines are Death Guard, and not all DG and plague marines.

Seriously torn between what to buy to expand my Dark Imperium. I'm tempted to do Raven Guard (successors) with my Primaris... but I'm also tempted to do Death Guard.

I feel it's a gamble on Death Guard though, their Codex might turn out to be shit.

>>54584724
lord on bike
sorcerer on bike

if it follows the trends of the space marine codex, those will be the ones to go

>be me
>order The Horusian Wars: Resurrection Limited Edition
>I get No.100

Nice looking book. But it's good news for AdMech fans as it mentions those Titan guard AdMech units; meaning they're gonna be in 40k. Also Repentia are less naked now, they wear robes on top of a sleeveless bodysuit. So I guess that's what a new Repentia model would look like.

>>54584673
>doesn't remember the days when GW didn't make half the models/options they listed
>doesn't remember the days of single piece metal models you had to convert

Fucking kids these days throw a tantrum because they'd have to take a sword arm from another kit to put on their space man, rather than having every single option in the kit.

You're the reason we're paying tens of pounds per model and have half the bits lying around unused, and why unit options are reduced to barely existing. Next you'll demand ready assembled and painted minis, because painting and gluing is hard, daddy.

>>54584724
This makes no sense

>>54584739
>Be you
>Lie on the internet
Wow haha

DAILY REMINDER.

THE CHAOS INDEX HAS 64 UNITS. THE CHAOS CODEX HAS 45.

>>54584702
If true, then we'll probably get some extra units on release, or maybe lots unique stratagems and psychic powers.
I hope we get magic robots and Tech-Magi.
Always wanted mage-engineers in my army.

>>54584716
Meanwhile the heavies have 36 all day long.

>>54584721
I saw an image from itunes that said 7 legions from which it was inferred DG and TS wouldnt be in it.

>>54584724
Doubt that as Black Legion is their poster boy sadly.

>For example not all plague marines are Death Guard, and not all DG and plague marines.
Except for Rubrics which are all Thousand Sons.

>>54584740
Plus we had metal minis to hack at

>>54584740
Actually the reason why you have so many unused bits in the box is because GW removed bits being for sale.

>>54584360
Should be a few hours. I'll upload unassembled and untouched and at some other point I'll upload assembled.

>>54584745
Not lying, but no bully anyway.

>>54584750
GOOD RIDDANCE.
I NEED NEW BERSERKER MODELS

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>>54584702
Well for starters Thousand Sons might still get more models for their codex release (I have my hopes), but that aside there have already been plenty of mini codexes and Thousand Sons only have 2 fewer model kits than Death Guard who are definitely getting a Dex.

>>54584705
Yup, still good enough to take down heavy infantry, just a bit iffy against vehicles, which, again, are better targets for Lascannons anyway.

>>54584753
New canon is legions can cast the Rubric spell on normal marines and make new rubric marines now

>>54584766
Dude if fucking only we could get access to the 30k stuff. The only reason I didnt get in 30k was I was waiting for the Magnus model then he had no nipple horns. No nipple horns no buy. Good thing tho I guess as HH is dead.

>>54584750
The various Chaos Lords and Sorcerers on Daemonic Mounts and Bike are going to be cut, but we already knew that.

Are Warpsmiths any good in 8th? I love the mini.

>>54584704
>You see frustrating and confusing, I see opportunity for conversion and enjoyment of making something new.
Well that's what GW sees, not me. I'm putting myself in their mindset. Just think about how you buy a dreadnought and you don't find the heavy bolter option int here. It IS frustrating because you feel ripped off and have no way to obtain it except going fo the exotic options mail only pounds only UK based luxury price vendor. GW now feels the need to justify their high prices and doesn't want to appear too scummy in these regards anymore. It's less of a hobby company and more of an action figures /models company (also see the move towards static /monopose)

However consider tht
conversions are not limited to swapping weapons. Given the amount of monopose models for example, conversions can also mean create a model with a different pose or start from another model to get the standard weapon set.

>>54584772
No that isnt the new canon unless you got a source that I've never read which I highly doubt.

>>54584065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZFaOd8XL8E
soft, soft, tough, soft, tough, soft

Anyone got the fucking codex? It's out already.

>>54584790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvuVWJszF_A
It's in there somewhere.

>>54584799
No it isnt. I've got WoM and it says nothing of the sort.

>>54584786
Pretty fantastic dakkasplooges, actually. Flamer + Meltagun and can take a Combi-Weapon on top. All this comes in addition to their robo-tentacles and the big-ass axe. And since you can fire all those at once, you have either a model that can do some fantastic pinpoint-tank-removal with Meltagun + Combi-Melta and BS2+ or some fantastic Overwatch with Flamer + Combi-Flamer.

>>54584753
They said there was rules for 8 Legions and a single Renegade chapter. As for units, who knows.

Can warpsmiths repair vehicles they are embarked in or these rules as shit as they look

>>54584041

>Bring your child to work day edition

It's nice that he loves his son, even though he has crippling gigantism.

>>54584804
Sweet dude, congrats on your purchase
Have you considered that if the video was them reading word for word out of the book, the video wouldn't exist?

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New gk confirmed

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>mfw today Catholics celebrate Saint Prospero

>>54584812
You can't use any special rule when embarked

>>54584820
>actually shitting on the Primaris' better proportions
Holy shit the autism is real. Hate their design, fluff or weapon options all you want, but complaining about their proportions is some turbo-retardation

>>54584824
Oh youre stating its stated in the video? Developer commentary isnt canon my friend. Feel free to believe that if you wish but as we've seen with Gouldstein and the sister of silence, the words of company men means nothing until its in print.

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>>54584811

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>>54584797
I was going to scan the Primaris Edition, which included the 64 art pages, but I got so fed up with you piratefags screeching for it that I decided I'm not going to bother. Shut the fuck up or go to >>>/wsr/. Somebody will upload it, fucking wait for it. But I won't because I'm fucking sick of you cunts being cheap then crying that prices go up or your faction isn't supported.

>don't buy stuff
>GW thinks it's not selling
>stuff which is bought regardless of you recaster pirate fags sells
>GW supports this army because they think it's selling
>WAAAH WHY DOES GW ONLY CARE ABOUT X ARMY? FUCKING DROPPED.

Kys.

>>54584826
Nope. It's more closely resembling the banner of SoB. We know it isn't SoB. You've said this before. Stop spamming.

>>54584824
>what's a trailer?

>>54584041
Those mould lines gave me aids

>>54584844

Ha ha, seriously?

Primaris don't even look like Astartes anymore, they have -human- proportions.

I mean, I was just complaining in that post about the dumb excess height, but let's be real: The Deathwatch and Thousans Sons releases -nailed- correct space marine proportions. Primaris are lanky freaks.

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>>54584828
Do not despair, brother. We shall have our revenge yet.

>>54584848
>Rules for Battle-forged armies - 8 Legion Traits, 1 for each of the original Legions and 1 for Renegade Chapters[...] with 7 which are Legion-specific

As for the 45 datasheets there is 50 units in the Index, so if we remove the assumed bike shit, that's it.

>>54584826
No. GK bone relics are very refined and have a full 3D shape- which most other bones displayed by armies don't- and also GK don't need/want new models. They don't sell at a rate (good or bad) to justify redoing them

It's likely AoS shit, I think they all use the cartoony bones

>>54584850
>Nope.
Citation needed.

>It's more closely resembling the banner of SoB
Citation needed.

>You've said this before. Stop spamming.
Look up what spaming means, faggot

>>54584868
In other words, your eyes are so fucked by wrong Space Marine proportions that you have developed Stockholm Syndrome toward the Marinelet form.

>>54584799
gonna have to back up anon with >>54584847
>developer commentary isn't canon
it's always a bunch of retards that don't know fluff
i mean at one point they even stated that almost no one in the empire knew who robute was when he came back

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>>54584879
What's there to citation?

And here is proof, again, you've been shown it before.

And yes, it is spamming, you've posted it nearly every day.

>>54584850

Guess someone had faggot flakes instead of Khorne flakes.

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Sup /tg/ my next conversion project is, in short, a shrine to chaos built atop a onager dunecrawler in the same style as pic. First of all I have no idea how to go about a shrine, and all help would be wonderful, but manning that shrine I want to be a small army of cherubs sourounding one god-emperor of dune style fat bloated baby face worm.
So if you would be so kind as to relpy could you please:
> What boxes have cherubs or where to get them
> Ideas for a shrine with either models or artwork/fluff
> How to make the wormy thing.
Keep in mind this is to go along with my undivided chaos force.

>>54584799
Pretty hilarious listening to that. Made me realise that Magnus's revenge on the Space Wolves has been completely undone by Cawl.
First Magnus made it so the Wolves would never get successors and second culled their numbers.
Thousand of years of work undone by some rando techpriest.

>>54584333
5 is fine but more is better, just make sure you're running 5 mans unless you need the slot

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>>54584888

Maybe I have basic taste and don't jump on a marketing bandwagon that hurts the integrity of the brand.

>>54584897
Your opinion does not count as proof. The not-banner you posted is nowhere as close in shape to the gk bone cabinet from the codex. Not counting the scale which is obviously off.

>And yes, it is spamming, you've posted it nearly every day.
>NEWS: the 40kg thread is spamming, since it is posted 20 times per day.
Just no.

>>54584333
If you're paying all the points for a captain to babysit them go for more than 5.

>>54584756
And that amount is not getting any smaller now that you can't even use those spare bits to equip other models. Everything a unit needs is in the box and spare bits have no purpose, since you can't use them on anything else.

>>54584872
Actually I think they'll add something.

I count 49 CSM units in the Index
But then 9 are HQ that have no models, so, like SM, they are going to cut them.
Exalted Champion is something they could add, but even that we have 41 dataslates.

6 are missing, and even counting Noise Marines and Berzekers 2 times (one as Elite and one as Troops) there are still 4 new things.

How is a codex sm link not up yet?

>>54584917
>Your opinion does not count as proof.
the irony of this post makes me chuckle, not him either, his model looks more like the model you posted.

>artwork has no skull
>has swords, not metal slabs
>obviously on a pole

while his doesn't have a door. don't reply to me i don't wanna get into your autistic argument.

>>54584702
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2017/07/chaos-space-marines-august-22nd.html

>>54584933
*8 are missing, and even counting Noise Marines and Berzekers 2 times (one as Elite and one as Troops) there are still 6 new things.

>>54584771
Primarines don't have infantry lascannons, though. Wouldn't mind some, but I have to do with what I got.

>>54584316
HH series is such a fucking mess.

>>54584933
It's either 48-50. I can't count cause I'm a retard. Dunno what they'd add desu. One of them might be Bastion and Knights?

>>54584933
>like SM, they are going to cut them.

Everybody keeps saying this, and yet nobody has posted a pic of the contents page of the new SM codex or anything.

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>>54584888
Let's talk about space marine proportions for a moment ...

>>54584917
Not at all. Your opinion isn't proof either. That SoB thing has the skull and bones, right shape, it's on a pole like the model and the only difference is the cabinet isn't there. I didn't even say it was going to be SoB only that it's more similar to it. The daily thread is fine, you posting the same picture with the same comment nearly every day is spamming. People have regularly said it likely isn't GK because what would it be and you don't reply to them. Carry on mate, I've filtered you anyway.

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So this is a list for an idea... I know how it looks but trust me there is a story/reason behind it. How does it stack at face value.

>>54584106
Sure they do, they bang aeldari chicks.

>>54584974
>Unbound
Enjoy not having CP.

>>54584633
Still mad your legion got what it deserved?

>>54584904
>Russ getting cucked by Guilliman

He's laughing his ass off anon.

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>>54584963
Anyone else still a little dissapointed with Guilliman. I really think they did a job with Magnus but Gman seems off.

>>54584625
It's 100% confirmed true, out of the leaked White Dwarf pics

Except VotLW is +1 to Wound rolls, not +1 S, which is actually way better.

So, I want to do a Primaris only list, at least in infantry, though I'm going to be doing it a bit more open, IE: model Honor Guard as Primaris, model the Techmarine Gunner on a Thunderfire as Primaris. Was curious, what do you think vehicle-wise goes well with Primaris, tactically?

>>54584948
Which is why there is the Predator to help you out. It's tougher than both Primarines and Marinelets, too.

>>54584963

The ONLY way to interpret the Gulliman model's proportions favourably is to pick up on that Cawl had to basically miniaturise the support systems of a dreadnought to make it work, so those legs and left arm are mechanical facimiles and only the much smaller right arm is the real thing.

...And then Dark Imperium depicted him with the armour off, causing a continuity error in the new fluff -immediately-

>>54584978
It'll be run as two spearheads I couldn't be bothered working Battle Scribe.

>>54584984
VoTLW is a strat right?

Return of Lion El'Richie when?

>>54584955
But anon, it's in store, and there are no Apothecaries and Chaplains in bikes for example, and there is no Khan on bike too.

Also, now units have only the weapons you find in the box. Dread no longer have the twin heavy bolter or the twin autocannon for example.

You can sitll use them by Index anyway.

Things is that CSM have some shitty kits, and it's going to be a mess.
Chosen aren't even a thing really outside the Dark Vengeance box. I wonder what will happen to them.

>>54584998
They have a real problem with making armor without considering how a person would actually fit in it.

Is it a bad idea to take fusion blasters on my stealth suits?

>>54584963
He doesn't count, he's a head in a mecha body.

>>54584955
Winters put up a video review confirming everything without a model was cut from the SM Codex, dumbass. It's not speculation.

>>54584984

I thought it was VotLW was pay before the game, get +1 wound on your profile.

Y'know, because they're so old they're basically mini-characters with a degree of the plot armour that gives character models a giant pile of wounds.

>>54585005
Don't you dare kill my choo choo chosen.

>>54584983
Yes. He's too overdesigned. The armor and proportions look off. He'd be better with far less ornate looking armor, and he needs more leg days.

>>54584999
Okay. I like it cause I like meme lists and Custodes. I'm sad you don't have any SoS as they combined with Culexus really fuck over armies like GK. I wish there was a better program. Does GW have one? Battlescribe is a mess, that old good one got SHUT DOWN and so on.

>>54585004
After Morty most likely.

>>54584998
>Depicted him with the armour off
Source?
Genuinely curious, I thought he was basically a corpse if he took off the life support mech.

>>54584988
Predators and Whirlwinds help a lot. Land Speeders and Attack Bikes are a big no-no because you can still see the marinelets sitting in them. Other than that, just take a Repulsor and you're done.

>>54584983
I think Girlyman looks decent IF you put his helmet on. The prettyboy face ruins it for me.

>>54585005
The plastic Raptors make a good base to create some chosen. Especially if you have old metal raptors in your force they won't get mixed up. The plastic raptor armour is very close to DV chosen.

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>>54584902
First things that come to mind are pic related. Can't link because of the spam warning, but the names are there if you search them on google.

Not sure about the shrine, depends what sort of size you are going for, and what idea of a shrine you have in mind.

>>54585003
Yeah. Unknown how much CP it costs and who you can use it on (Berzerkers were given as the example but I'm guessing it's possibly any Heretic Astartes Infantry or maybe Elite Infantry). Also unknown if its melee only or if you can apply it to shooting.

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>>54584983
Rowboat's pose is really bad and the tzeentch style detailing on his armor doesnt help. Mainly the fucked up pose though.

>>54585021
The list is my try at a crazy chaos inquisitor style warband with acolytes being cultists and custodians being bigger than truescale chosen. So what you see there will fit together aesthetically.

>>54584902
lel, the thumbnail on my table looked like a daemonette bending over with an exposed deformed ass sticking out

>>54585014
No, it's +1 to Wound rolls. As in, if you would Wound your opponent on 3+, now you Wound him on 2+ for this phase. Basically the Chaos counterpart to SMs Sternguard stratagem.

>>54585026

Fall of Cadia: Makes it super clear he's stuck in life support armour.

Dark imperium novel: After the flashback chapters showing his fight with Fulgrim, immediately cuts to him walking around his private quarters in an interface onesie.

>>54584934
bump for same

>>54585031
For the shrine I want it to draw the eye with lots of fire and sigils with this great fat lazy baby beast sitting in the middle being fed and attended too by his cherub guard. Lots of machinery and life support keeping him alive: kind of like a living chaos "golden throne".

>>54585053
Gotta love BL's consistency

>>54584943
CSM is not coming out the 22nd, that was a typo. It's the 12th.

>>54584466
While its not ideal, I understand the reasoning behind it; aside from the "don't buy third party stuff" thing, I wouldn't be surprised to see them wanting to streamline some things and remove others for balance reasons. But they can't outright say (just as a random example) "No more assault cannon Razorbacks" because the people who have one would be rightly mad.

The Index/Codex thing is probably the best they could do.

>>54584983

The design of Magnus is perfect, but they overblew the scale of the model and it doesn't really fit his statline.

Yes, he can play around with his size, but the size of the model is difference to the size implied by the statline.

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>>54585024
That old prick

>>54585073
This is true
Preorders 5th

>>54584528
It's about mainting control of the IP, you can't trademark a mini that doesn't exist. Making a mini lets you do so.
So if a 3rd party fills in a gap they have the tradmark on the miniature form of some of GWs IP. Naturally they want to stop this.

>>54585053
Well hasn't it been a hundred years or so by the time of dark imperium? Wouldn't the assistive life support from the suit aid in his "natural primarch regeneration" or whatever?
I mean he was rumoured to have been "healing in stasis" way back fluffwise because primarch.
But then again, he was essentially decapitated And filled with daemon poison...I'm conflicted.

>>54585045
It's cool, I like that idea. I wish they made an Inquisitor game and brought back Necromunda quickly. I like small warband style games which allow personal stuff. Karamazov is one of my favourite models but he lost Orbital Strike didn't he?

>>54585053
Granted Dark Imperium is set 100 years later than the Gathering Storm books. Also it's not Fall of Cadia, it's Return of the Primarch, Book 3. Fall of Cadia is an upcoming BL novel about Cadia.

>>54584529
Pretty close, though if I recall correctly "normal" power level Nurgle is above Slaanesh. Nurgle fluctuates though, so when good hygiene and health care is on the rise he drops to the bottom.

>>54584772
Liar.

>>54584983
The only thing that lacks on Magnus is pauldrons, with two pauldrons (not necessarely space marine ones) would look much better, as it stands now he looks incomplete and almost slaneeshi for how gay his outfit looks

>>54584940
>>54584968
>keep proclaiming their opinion is fact
You either post factual proof that the posted picture is not from a future grey knights release, or you shut up. That's what the rumour engine is made for - speculation and hype. I wonder why you care this much though - assblasted meme factions or NPC players? Kek

>reposting content is spam
Oh wow, we should make the one-of of every picture boardwide instead of threadwide. And also do a one-of of every comment! Nice suggestion, anon

>>54585091
Yeah no OB but I threw him in without thought mainly because the army evolved around the idea of this >>54584902 which will be Kazzy

>>54585105
and you're proclaiming yours as fact, I said don't reply to me but you're obviously autistic, otherwise you'd be able to follow simple instructions, I pity you.

>prove a negative

And a retard too. What a surprise. How about you post proof it is from a future GK release? And no, trying to force that it is because of a unrelated not even close to artwork is not proof. But you can't, so you'll screech.

DON'T.
REPLY.
TO.
ME.

CSM shit got leaked?

>>54585086
But FW already makes all those options for dreads, so they could already control the IP.
Just seems like GW is a toy action figure company now, not a hobby company.

Do tactical marines also have no options for heavy weapons besides a missile launcher now, as that is the only one included in the kit ?

>>54585116
Dont tell me what to do, bitch, I reply to who I like

>>54585076
>but they overblew the scale of the model and it doesn't really fit his statline.
Interesting I dont agree but its aesthetics. Did you ever see that smaller version of Magnus on display? Was daemon prince sized youd probably like.

>>54585116
>REEE DON'T REPLY TO ME
>you're proclaiming yours as fact
Never did. You are the only one who stated it is definitely not gk. Which you can't show, because you decided to go on and defend an undefendable argument.

>>54585086
But GW makes TL autocannons for dreads. GW makes conversion beamers and had made conversion beamers. GW makes bikes and bikers. None of those things can be taken by another company. So what IP are they protecting, when they have those things?

>>54585105
How about you post factual proof it is a GK release? I can't prove a negative. All you've done is posted it next to an artwork that's not even close. All I said was that the SoB model, which is an actual model and not artwork, is more closely resembling the rumour engine part than your artwork. Which it is. You denying this is up to you but the fact you're going
>y-your o-opinion

is fucking hilarious, because that's exactly what you're doing. Provide proof it's a GK release or you shut the fuck up :^). Finally, as for your final bit, you're posting the same picture and the same text constantly and you don't reply to anybody who goes 'you're wrong'.

>>54585128
Little bits in the White Dwarf. Two stratagems were described not fully, and we saw the Night Lords one entirely. Also a couple Grey Knights ones.

>>54584750
Why is this news, we already know the new codex is going to only be marine stuff and not knights or deamons. Deathguard and tsons are probably waiting for their own books as well.

>>54585142
read >>54584940 i said i didn't want to get in your autistic argument and just said his model represents what you posted more. fuck off.

>>54585148
Do you have link to imgur album, by any chance?

>>54585135
>Do tactical marines also have no options for heavy weapons besides a missile launcher now, as that is the only one included in the kit ?

Fucking this. Enjoy paying £50 for 10 space marines with every possible options they could ever need, and 3 spare heads per model. Because not having all the option in the same box makes babby autist cry.

>>54585089

Dark Imperium also has him thinking about how the scar on his neck will never heal and catches uncomfortably on his armour, how the poison in his veins gives him aches, how he can't sleep anymore and needs to meditate instead, and the narration implies his soul is wounded, he feels somehow lesser but is too atheistic to acknowledge it.

So yeah the damage is there, but he's apparently fine to walk about naked. Given all this takes place in his private quarters, I'd be cool if it was Darth Vader-like a specialised chamber he can strip down in and live, but they don't do anything to suggest or imply that.

>>54585149
>Deathguard and tsons are probably waiting for their own books as well

What makes you think that, they're not even included in the list of major CSM legions in that screencap.

>>54585154
In 2000, a box of Tactical Marines was £15 (£23 in today's money) and now they're £25. Except we have way more options now. So, I doubt it'll be £50.

>>54585153
No, google New Zealand White Dwarf you might find it. It's probably on dakka as well. It's not a ton of info.

Good news is pre-orders for CSM look to go up on the 5th with the Codex coming out the following saturday on the 12th, which means GW community site will probably start doing preview articles on monday and teasing stuff all next week.

>>54585145
Why should I post any proof? You are the one that started the thing with your "the case is closed" argument. I'm posting my opinion which is open to interpretation and speculation and you reply with a "don't post anymore, here is definitive proof why you shouldn't, you're wrong", which you CANNOT defend.

>>54585152
The autistic argument was started by your friend, blame him. Still trying to defend the undefendable huh?

>you don't reply to anybody who goes 'you're wrong'.
except i am

>>54585162
Are you literally retarded? Death Guard Codex is already confirmed to be the 4th one and if Thousand Sons aren't in CSM, which we know they are not now for a fact, they're getting their own Codex too at some point.

>>54585172
Thanks anon.

>>54585105
It has next to no detail GK are known for. It is AoS stuff easily.

>>54585143
GW makes bikes, but they don't make "SM captain on bike".

Chapter house got away with their eldar farseer jetbike even though GW already made farseers and jetbikes.

IP law is finicky as fuck.

>>54585162
Same as how blood angels, space wolves, and dark angels aren't in the code marine.

>>54585162
Wow you dumb. For real.

>>54585157
Could just be him being a mopey fuck. Considering his wounds were at the Fatal level at the time, being able to wander around and complain about his booboos is pretty well healed.

>>54585175
>Why should I post any proof?
Ah, a shitposter, no wonder you spam images. Simply fixed for me. Not him btw.

What I have learned from this thread:
1. Someone is getting fired from GW for some CSM cock uo
2. The G-Unit looks shit
3. I can steal George RR Martins characters because he hasn't made minis for them.
Thanks for the education 40k thread,

>>54585206
Nice contribution

>>54585175
>you post an image yet again
>I counter it saying it isn't likely to be GK because SoB is better
>NO LOL UR WRONG PROVIDE PROOF FOR A NEGATIVE
>I cannot do that, can you provide proof it is GK?
>LOL Y SHOULD I?

So you can't? We're done here. The fact you're replying to another guy who just made his opinion as if he shagged your mum in front of you proves how mentally unstable you are.

>>54585154
It just is a confusing decision GW made. They have to redo ALL kits they make (even marine kits don't have ALL possible wargear combinations) now, but that will only drive up the prices more, and teenagers are already not the biggest spenders.
Having to mix bits between kits and doing weapon swaps (and replacing a dread's twin las with autocannon barrels isn't hard) has always been a time-honoured part of the hobby, but everything is going to be snap-fit easy to assemble now it seems. Kinda insulting really, seems like GW thinks its customers are too stupid for anything more complicated.

>>54585209
>1. Someone is getting fired from GW for some CSM cock uo
Not really, it's just a page of the White Dwarf which is coming out in 3 days anyway, the same day they'll likely start preview articles for the CSM Codex which is literally just 2 weeks away now.

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>>54585059
Make sure you ask in the WIP thread and see if anyone has any ideas. Sounds like you will need to trawl e-bay and different mini outlets to pick up the bits you want to convert it all.

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>>54585042
Yeah, I didn't like the tentacles. Ivy would have made sense given the Graeco-Roman thing but the tentacles make it look weirdly Chaosy.

>>54585221
>>54585209
What even happened?

>>54585220
>They have to redo ALL kits they make (even marine kits don't have ALL possible wargear combinations) now
No, they don't. They're just squatting options.

Who wants to help me fluff out a yellow Iron Hands Primaris successor?

What should I use as an accent colour to the yellow, and where should i put it?

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>>54585226
>Sanguinus in this artwork has normal blonde hair
>in this artwork he is a Rastafarian drug addict

GW!

>>54585227
Dude I am a weary traveller from thread to thread and just trying to learn what I can to determine the worthiest traditional game.

>>54585227
GW posted up a preview for the new white dwarf on their website and if you zoom in really close on one of the pages it has an article about stratagems and talks about some of the new ones coming out for CSM and GK. It's not even remotely a big deal.

>>54585218
>I counter it saying it isn't likely to be GK because SoB is better
Except you said I should stop posting because your opinion is different and definitive.

By the way, why are you so mad about the providing proof for a negative thing? Are you retarded? To show it is not gk, you show what it is. Which you can't.
I never stated it definitely is gk. The "fucking confirmed" thing is an obvious way to make hype, if you aren't retarded. You on the other hand insist it is not GK because your opinion that it is not GK is factual. Which is an obvious fallacy. (The rest of your post is garbage)

>>54585231
Did you mistake Iron Hands for Imperial Fists?

Do we know when we're getting boxes of Intercessors?

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grey knights pre-order next week

So a Helbrute is like.... Chaos 'roids bulk you up to the size of a dreadnought then you get armour plates stitched on?

If so, they should really be making more Helbrutes out of incompotent underlings so as to spam a wall of horrifying flesh-pile supersoldiers.

>>54585170
Compared to the old, we gained grav-pistol, power sword, power fist, grav-gun and a combi-weapon. We're still missing the rest of the close combat options for the sergeant and all the heavy weapons besides the missile launcher. So power maul, power axe, lightning claw, heavy bolter, lascannon, plasma cannon, multi-melta, grav-cannon, etc. etc. That's a whole new sprue or two to add to the kit. On top of whatever new upgrades they think of.

>>54585252
No word yet. It's gotta be pretty soon since the Codex is out and comes with options that aren't available on the snap fits.

>>54585190
They sold a conversion kit, they could potentially own the rights to "Jetbike to Farseer on Jetbike conversion kit" if they decided to persue it, not "Farseer on Jetbike" should GW ever decide to make that model. Regardless the 7e Eldar codex, 2 years after the ruling did not remove jetseers.

>>54585218
>I cannot do that
Ah also just noticed you admitted you can't prove it's SoB and not GK, so we're really done. You admitted you have no reason to stop me from posting except your opinion, which means nothing. Good riddance

>>54585231
Red and blue go nicely with yellow.

>>54585228
>Chaos Havocs will only be able to have a lascannon, autocannon, heavy bolter, and missile launcher, and only one of each in that exact combination

Good lord this is going to be retarded ....

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and chaos too

>>54585255
Huh, so they ARE releasing two books on the same day.

I guess that's how it will go for the non-model releases, while the Codexes that are coming with new kits will be released alone.

>>54585234
I hate the pseudo-3D art style they've gone with for the Horus Heresy covers. All of them look dire compared to some of the top-quality art that is available in other parts of 40k.

>>54585248
>say it's confirmed
>what? fuck off retard
>LOL IT WAS A MAY MAY ECKS DEE I TROLE U :D

I never said it wasn't GK, only that it's more similar to SoB. See my very first post, I shall quote it for you. Ahem.

>Nope. It's more closely resembling the banner of SoB. We know it isn't SoB. You've said this before. Stop spamming.

I did not say it wasn't GK. My 'nope' was in reference to your CONFIRMED, as GK is not confirmed. This is fucking implied, if you had good reading comprehension, by the next part of my post. I said it wasn't SoB, but it resembled it more.

Try and actually read posts next time, thank you.

>>54585267
You're not even the same person. I didn't even say it was SoB, again, read above. Stop shitposting.

>>54585272
Also confirms the solo releases of the Triumvirate.

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and those guys aswell

>>54585234
>The Lion dyes his hair

wtf is this shit

>>54585272
>10 psychic powers
So that confirms Dark Hereticus is getting a full 6 powers IN ADDITION to the three god-aligned powers for Nurgle, Tzeentch and Slaanesh.

>>54585255
>>54585272
REEEE GW WILL NEVER RELEASE TWO CODEXES THE SAME DAYS REEEEEEEEEEE
>t. assblasted npc players

>>54585272
Could we get some photos of page 72 pretty please

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and plasma guys aswell, damn gw is not loosing momentum with 40k

>>54585275
Considering how many options are going to be removed from CSM and with GK already not having much options already, both codexes combined will be as many pages as a single 7th edition codex lol

>>54585263
Cheer anon. I'm considering a unit to round out my force and don't want to pick up any of the boxed sets with stuff I don't need.

>>54585257
No, Hellbrutes are chaos dreads. Just with a different name.

Like devastators vs havocs.

>>54585190
>implying GW won't name it "Swiftstorm Captain"

It's their own fault for making biker captain a separate unit instead of just an upgrade. And how hard would it have been to put a sprue with some bits into a box with a bike and call it "SM captain on a bike." Sell it for a limited time and bam, you got your precedence.

How did Chapterhouse "get away" with having a farseer on a bike?

>>54585272
>Grey Knights only get 16 unique Stratagems
>no sub-factions confirmed
BUMMER DUDES!

>>54585284
Wow, that grenade launcher looks terrible.

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>>54585267
>>54585248
>it's anon's pretend to be somebody else, shitpost and can't read posts episode

i've been following your argument and you've based it on a fucking fictional post, the original guy NEVER said it wasn't GK and NEVER said it was SoB. He just said SoB resembled it more, he's said this so many times that even a retard like me can see it. I've followed the fucking comment chain and you've been making claims based on nothing, shout it's your opinion when challenge, then shout at others for saying their opinion and that's not good enough.

Fucking pathetic.

>>54585282
>>54585218
>>54585206
>>54585152
Stop replying to shitposters.

>>54585300
sorry anon, but those things are 2nd hand, just wanted to share with fellow anons

>>54585285
Do you really not know that people can have naturally different coloured beards or are you memeing?

>>54585310

Have you looked at the model lately? That thing ain't a normal dread anymore.

>>54585291
why would we be mad? Sooner the codexes come out the sooner the interesting races will get theirs.

>>54585255
>Voldus released seperately
>still have to buy Inquisitor Sillyhat and Celestine if I want based Cawl
>still have to buy Lady Topknot and Totally-not-a-Slaanesh-Daemon-Prince-I-swear if I want Visarch

>>54585312
Brotherhoods WILL get rules anon on suicide watch !

Top kek

>>54585301
>GW still keeping the tactical squat
Good some things never change

>>54585284

>Grenade launcher is a second bolter barrel

So what are primaris grenades special issue bolt shells that they throw at people now?

>>54585319
Np, thanks anyway. I'm just glad to know legion rules are soon

>>54585308
Well >>54585284 just confirmed they're coming in 2 weeks, so there you go!

>>54585301
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHY ARE THEY SQUATTING?

I thought GW had finally realized that pooping marines look dumb.

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lol

>>54585325
Don't worry it was just satire. Some retarded anon kept disproving release date leaks because muh gw won't release two codexes in one day

>>54585341
>why are people bracing when firing a gun
t. retard

Also only 2 of them are.

>>54585322
Precisely. Not anymore. They start out as normal Dreads and then the Warp slowly makes the Dread into a fleshy metal nightmare.

>>54585344
Holy fucking shit my sides

>>54585340
Hooray!

>>54585282
>>54585316
>Not knowing what CONFIRMED means
>Still defending the "You shouldn't post because it's not confirmed" thing.
Like pottery.

>>54585301

>10 plasmamans to a kit

Wow GW are really trying to push plasma.

Although I'm pretty sure Devastators with plasma cannons are strictly superior to the heavy version.

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>>54585284
>top center primarine
>with bottom center head

Y/N?

>>54585345
To be fair we now know those "leaked" release dates were completely fucking wrong

>>54585301
>Different guns are just same gun model with either wires or canisters

Wow, that is lazy as fuck.

>>54585362
Would bang/10