Warhammer Fantasy General /wfg/

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>>54580859
Looking for people who want to do a game/campaign of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, 2e.

>>54580907
Anon who is going on holiday, I would love to be a part of something like that (if you'll have a no-hoper like me), but for obvious reasons I won't be able to join you for the next couple of weeks.

Maybe we could find some way of keeping in contact, that I might drop in when I get back?

>>54580907
As usual, I'm available to GM but you'd have to be willing to play in the Monster Girl Encyclopedia setting.

>>54581140
why why ruin it that way? I don't get it...

It's like you are openly advertising that you're Magical Realming the setting.

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Nth for obscure Kurgan lore
I don't think there's enough on the Hung though

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>>54580907
I'm literally starting a 2nd e game! We're all meeting tomorrow to discuss plans, characters, and how to's. etc... only requirement is, we're looking for 'newer' players.

https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/2423812/warhammer-fantasy-roleplay

>>54581180
>It's like you are openly advertising that you're Magical Realming the setting.
No shit. Though I'll admit that WHFRP would be a fitting system to use for it for several reasons:
>There are a lot of basic templates for a variety of different races for characters and it's easy enough to work out a template for use, either as a nerfed version (Beastmen characters that are generated are far stronger than they should be), or generating a new one (such as for orc, goblin or zombie characters). It also means that characters that have their race changed during the campaign can easily have their characteristics modified with a minimum of fuss.
>Corruption and mind-break mechanics are already present. Tome of corruption presents how to use corruption values of an area in a campaign and the rulebook itself has the insanity system to represent being taken by a monster.
>Since human-aligned humans have godly empowerment, that can also be done simply by re-skinning chaos warriors. Though in my case, rather than the chaos of mutations and rewards, I'm thinking that earning such bonuses will instead grant some free but fixed statline advances which I'm basing around the differences between chaos careers and regular ones.
>Magic can be categorized into two forms, corrupt monster magic and 'mundane' magic.
I'd be willing to GM for both teams of players who are monsters and incubi trying to corrupt the world or pure humans, elves and dwarves trying to prevent that.

>>54581294
Miiight just be me, but it's not letting me in. Saying "Not Authorized."

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>>54581294
>>54581375
Hmm try this one:

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84267/warhammer-fantasy-roleplay

>>54581426
If that doesn't work, just search the main roll20.net page for Warhammer fantasy roleplay

>>54581294
>>54581440
Looking for your game, but I don't see shit when I search "warhammer fantasy roleplay" in matching keywords, or when I look for "Warhammer" as the game being played.

>>54581426
>>54581294
Nevermind, I found it. Posted a topic.

>>54581658
Yep, I think I responded to you....if it wasn't you then I responded to someone else. lol

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Okay, Warhammer Fantasy has been a little better at allowing alliances and friends than 40k, but there are still some obvious restrictions - Humans would almost never work with Beastmen, Dwarves would never call a truce with Orcs.

Do you think that things could - or should - be loosened up a little, particularly with how Total Warhammer approaches diplomacy as something you can do with potentially any faction?

>>54581716
No, that was me.

I feel obliged to warn you here that my talk of being a fun-police type of person was no idle boast. And I can get really steamed if I think people aren't taking it seriously.

But, hopefully I'd be able to get through this.

>>54581749
ehh... in that case....

>>54581716
You responded to the other guy going on holiday. I'm the one who said I was there from Warhammer Fantasy General. i'll hit you up on Discord.

>>54581742
>Humans would almost never work with Beastmen
You can always fluff an Empire force as Chaos renegades to justify a very shaky alliance with Beastmen.

>>54581716
For the record - I'm Bane. Big guy for you.

>>54581900
Truly your originality knows no bounds.

He says, without the smallest shred of irony.

>>54581971
Nickname I got that actually doesn't involve me memeing - just a mask and bigness. My friends are unoriginal.

>>54581870
Same with Vampire Counts I suppose, but that always kind of sucks. for people who want their loyal Imperials cake and to eat it too. The opposite would suck for people who hate the idea of non-Chaos Beastmen or something as well, so it sucks there can't be a middle ground of any sort. At least in the End Times a shaky human and undead alliance was justified, even if it took a world-ending threat.

>>54581311
And then there's this degenerate

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>when you remember that we could have had Bohemond Beastslayer or Repanse de Lyonesse

>>54582671
There is nothing wrong with Alberic.

>>54582687
He is a pretty alright burger compared to a double-bacon-thickerthanthick-burger, or a patty melt with cheese curds. Or whatever else you find delicious.

The point is that he's really a kind of generic lord, and the only reason I think he was included was for future updates where being navally active would be a much bigger deal. And even then, I could count the number of shits people would give on one hand if someone had stuck Bohemond or Repanse in his place.

>>54582791
They will have to make Wood Elves and Beastmen fleet from scratch.

>>54582873
I imagine a big sideways tree, and a really rickety raft-boat. More raft than boat, but not quite a raft.

>>54582024
>Same with Vampire Counts I suppose
If they're Von Carstein you can make them Sylvanian levies. Lahmians would have noble human allies to call on too.

>>54582671
Repanse isn't from that era.

>>54582985
Neither is Vlad or Azhag, what's your point? If she'd be a fun character to play, they'd bullshit her in with 'the Lady called her back from the realm of the dead to fight in Bretonnia's time of need' or something.

>>54583009
Vlad is a vampire and can be rezzed. Azhag's active period has always been vague.

>>54583029
So can Konrad in theory, but he's not around, and Vlad wasn't brought back for hundreds of years in the lore for whatever reason. Vlad was brought back because he was popular.

And Azhag's history is vague...except that it was recent, possibly within living memory or a little farther back, and he was confirmed dead as a doornail. He was brought in because he was probably one of the few Orc characters people can name besides Grimgor and they needed a second Greenskins character, and threw in Wurrzag later.

Repanse de Lyonesse could be as easily handwaved in as you're handwaving the existence of Vlad and Azhag in the game, and she's probably one of the few named Bretonnian characters people actually know, if nothing else because she has tits. And if you still want to argue that because of her set timeline she doesn't belong in there, fine, but then there's still Bohemond - and they're both still better than Alberic 'Everyman' de Bordelaux. You could even justify Bohemond in Bordelaux since Bastonne and Bordelaux have good relations, and Bastonne is often entrusted to a steward anyway.

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What do you guys think about this armylist? Festus and my BSB will join the unit of chosen while my DP, together with the chimera, fucks shit up on one flank.

++ Standard (Warriors of Chaos - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.0.) [2497pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points)

+ Lords +

Daemon Prince [540pts]: Chaos armour, Daemon of Nurgle, Daemonic Flight, Lore of Death, Wizard Level 4
. Chaos Mutations & Powers: Flaming Breath, Nurgle's Rot, Scaled Skin, Soul Feeder
. Magic Items: BRB - Charmed Shield, BRB - Dragonbane Gem, BRB - Sword of Striking

+ Heroes +

Festus the Leechlord [190pts]: AB - Pestilent Potions, Lore of Nurgle, Wizard Level 2

Exalted Hero [203pts]: Battle Standard Bearer, Mark of Nurgle, Shield
. Chaos Mutations & Powers: Hideous Visage
. Magic Items: BRB - Dragonhelm, BRB - Ironcurse Icon, BRB - Luckstone, BRB - Sword of Anti-Heroes

+ Core +

Chaos Chariot [125pts]: Mark of Nurgle

Chaos Chariot [125pts]: Mark of Nurgle

Chaos Warhounds [40pts]
. 5x Chaos Warhound: 5x Vanguard special rule

Forsaken [378pts]
. 18x Forsaken: 18x Forsaken of Nurgle

+ Special +

Chimera [275pts]: Flaming Breath, Regenerating Flesh

Chosen [551pts]
. Champion
. 22x Chosen: 22x Halberds, 22x Mark of Nurgle
. Musician
. Standard Bearer: BRB - Banner of Swiftness

+ Rare +

Chaos Spawn [70pts]: Spawn of Tzeentch

++ Total: [2497pts] ++

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>>54583186
>e was brought in because he was probably one of the few Orc characters people can name besides Grimgor and they needed a second Greenskins
It had more to do with him being very distinct from Grimgor. Magic + wyvern mount. Most of the other orc warlords, like Gorbad, Rotgut and others, all fall into the same mold of bashy fighter.

>>54583562
>all army is nurgle aligned
>spawn of tzeentch
Why?

>>54583615
Just to fuck with you

>>54583666
Well you succeded

>>54583615
Because change has to start somewhere.

Really though, it's just me having points left and thinking that another breath weapon would be nice. If you got some other suggestions that's more mono I'd love to hear it.

>>54583615
I can totally imagine a Nurgle army capturing a Chaos Spawn of Tzeentch and making sure he can't mutate and using him as some sort of weapon or sick joke of a mascot, in a 'stagnancy trumps change' sort of way. It'd be kind of like being a Khornate with a daemonette stuck to your banner as a prisoner/trophy.

Talking 6th ed here. I'm trying to come up with a rune combo for my Lord. I usually list tailor, but i figure i have to come up with a generic rune combo for quick plays or turneys.

My main plight are weapon runes, because i'm torn between the master rune of speed or the master rune of destruction
Striking first as a dwarf is basically death for anything he touches, unless it's a fucking elf, while the rune of destruction will basically makes an enemy hero useless at the first hit (not wound, hit)

What are your suggestions on the matter? Bear in mind, i'll probably park this lord in a unit of hammerers with a banner of slowness so maybe i have some hipe to charge first (and attack first)

>>54581140
Explain.

>>54583838
>khornate with a daemonette as a prisoner
I reckon the other way around would be much more conmon. Taking prisoners isn't the khornate way

>>54583838
That's actually a really neat idea. I might have to steal it.

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>>54583838
>Khornate with a daemonette stuck to thier banner

Speaking of this

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>>54581183
All we really know about the Hung is that they ride steppe ponies, are execellent bowmen, and are supreme oathbreakers.

Also they like elfs, since apparently as early as the Storm of Chaos Morathi was able to bribe herself an army's worth of meatshields to take to Lustria off of proffered elf sex.

Do you think there's a chance for bretonnia units to make an appearence in made to order?

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>thousands of official and unofficial warhammer art out there
>posts a random anime elf
I will never understand this guy and why he injects his cancer into the thread.

>>54584420
Your consistent and hilarious reaction, probably.

>>54584397
I seriously doubt it, sadly. The Bretonnia line hadn't sold well in years. This wasn't like how they offed the Diaz daemonettes for political reasons.

>>54584202
She's probably into it, this IS Slaanesh.

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>>54583186
Repanse could be sent back by the Lady, just change her death in the game by saying she went into Athel Loren. I won't be surprised if we DO get her now that Norsca is a thing. She skull fucked thrm when she was around.

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>54584476
>Your consistent and hilarious reaction, probably
If you think posting on-topic pictures is hilarious, than I have bad news for you.

>>54584476
>unlikely
I'd pay good money for some grail knights

>>54584536
Me too.

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>>54584523
Oh dear, now he's so mad he thinks he can deny 'yous' to get his way.

>>54581742
Absolutely not. Humans and Beastmen are completely inimical to one another, for one. Dwarfs would never work with Greenskins, it would be an oathbreaking action and invite Grimnir's wrath. The only 'evil' factions who can and do occasionally work with their enemies are the vampires, tomb kings, and dark elves...and the kangz aren't even evil.

>>54584494
So who is this Repanse people here keep blabbering on about?

>>54584568
Tomb kings would never ally with Vampires

>>54584578
joan of arc but no artillery and infantry.

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Do we have enough lore to turn border princes into a viable faction?
If yes the what units would they have? What would they specialise in? Do they even have any important characters?

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>>54584598
Eh I think it depends on tomb king in question.
Khalida sure as hell won't work with vampires, but I think Settra would be willing to work with them...if they bend the knee and accepted him as their ruler that is

>>54584578
Repanse d'Lyonesse was a peasant woman from Lyonesse. During an invasion of Bretonnia, the main body of the chivalry was broken and routing, so the Lady appeared personally to Repanse and charged her with removing seanigger. Repanse grabbed a horse off a dead knight, snatched up a banner, and charged into battle while everyone else was routing. The sight so shamed the knighthood that they rallied and countercharged, taking the Norscans by aurprise. The Chaos fag in charge of the invasion tried to kill Repanse, but she was so platinum mad she just beheaded him in a single stroke. That broke the invaders and they fled to the sea.

For her actions, Repanse was ennobled and made the Duchess of Lyonesse. This was the first and only time such a thing happened.

>>54584598
I can think of 2 possibilities

Against Nagash and against Chaos. But that's it.

>>54570622
>pray to both Sigmar and Ulric and Myrmydia as you can't have enough of divine protection

I suppose it depends on person to person. I suspect most Old World peasants would only pray to one, as they'd have deep held beliefs and self identify partially by who they worship.

Day to day they'd definitely offer lip service to each, but before a big fight?

>>54570821
WAR was kinda abysmal. Everyone playing a hero who could eventually tank fucking giants just shitted me. Felt too much like WoW. I ended up just speedhacking so I could check out the maps.

And they were fucking underwhelming.

>>54571931
Sounds like a clever scam. I like it.

>>54572199
Just doesn't click with Chaos Gods MO. Low-to-no interaction with his worshippers, no lesser daemons of his ilk. All we really know is that he taught dwarfs magic and may have demanded sacrifices. Since the Sorcerer Priests are the only ones who know the true history of their race, it's not entirely impossible that there never even was a Hastur and that the whole thing was one chaos dwarfs scheme to keep his people united in tough times.

>>54572552
This is an improvement from previous AoS maps, but still an overall downgrade. It lacks...soul.

>>54577331
>n-n-notice me senpaii!

Grow up, faggot.

Also, what's with the trend of retards calling WFRP WHFRP?

>>54584774
>This is an improvement from previous AoS maps, but still an overall downgrade. It lacks...soul.

It looks like World of Niggers shit, literally.

>>54584692
>Settta and Abhorash tagteaming against reigning champ Nagash.
>Everyone gets decked by Kemmler and Krell out of nowhere with chairs.

>>54584989
Still an upgrade

>>54584568
Dwarfs would never call a truce against orcs, but they would ignore them (if it was safe to do so) and use them as a distraction against a greater threat.

>>54583951
Go with Destruction. Your Lord can usually tank enough damage to swing if he doesn't go first.

Question: Do Chaos Dwarf Daemonsmiths still practice a form of Runesmithing?

>>54585079
Nop Chaos Dwarf can't into Runesmithing anymore; something about forcing the practicing of magic into them fucking them up.

>>54581426
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84267/warhammer-fantasy-roleplay
Am I ever glad I popped onto 4chan this morning! When the posting stopped showing up I figured you had found all the players you need. Glad I didn't stop reading the books.

>>54584774
>no lesser demons for Hashut

There are the K'daii. They are lesser demons bound to hashut, even if they don't resemble him

>>54585133
Is that headcanon or legit? The most I can find is a reference to them setting Runesmithing aside, but given that even humans and skaven use runes in their magic item creation, it seems more likely that Chaos Dwarfs just gave up on runes not useful in daemonsmithing and hellweapon manufactory.

>>54585201
It's also possible most or all of their runesmiths died during the cataclysm that turned them to Chaos to begun with. No teachers, no students.

>>54585197
Aren't thise literally magical golems of fire and metal made by the sorcerers?

>With the K'daai they have sought to do something more, to create a race of beings, half-daemon stuff and half-raging fire drawn from the magma of the deep earth and birthed in the boiling blood of Hashut's burning sacrifices, given form and contained within an armoured framework of articulated iron and rune-stamped bronze.

Not really lesser daemons, more hyrbids made by Chaos Dwarfs.

>>54585201

Ooh, also shows they still use rune magic.

>>54585249
Well they still have demon stuff in them. If the sorcerers used the blood from sacrifices to hashut to animate them, they could count as lesser demons of hashut even if artificially made.

I like to think that when hashut came to the chaos dwarfs he was a mere diagraced demon, but the dawi-zharr made a god out of him

>>54585201
Well they can't use it in any edition of the tabletop, and really they are no reason to not make use of this. I assume that's because their Sorcerer are something unatural for dwarf, being able to use magic like other race. They probably loosed their runesmith too. I don't see any other explication for stopping the use of rune.

>>54581742
No, there are just certain faction in Total Warhammer that would not ally up.

Though amongst the groups that can become allies I've no problem with lasting alliances being possible, if the player can change the warhammer world for the better with their ability the possibility should be there.

Also lizardmen should be able to ally with non-chaotic factions as inscruitable as they may be, as long as you don't touch their shit.
Returning 'Lustrian Relics' taken from other factions to them should be a way to improve their favor and make alliances possible.

>>54585288
Well if i, as a member of a magic-resistant race suddenly found out how to use proper magic instead of using runes and discovered that i could make equally powerful artifacts by binding demons into stuff at a fraction of time and effort, i'd set aside runesmithing too

>>54582671
Does he actually use his trident now? Makes him look more unique

I agree with you Repanse de Lyonesse should be brought back by the power and will of The Lady, she is the anti-chaos hero the world needs

>old ones were working to make the perfect world
>suddenly the gates at the poles collapse and chaos gets through

This always sounded like bullshit to me. the only eay this makes sense is if the old one's project was being actively sabotaged from the inside

Fucking chaos lizardmen when?

>>54584420
Your autism that causes you to bitch every time, pretty obvious.

>>54585323
>Not binding the two together
Dawi use runesmithing instead of "proper" magic because they don't like conventional magic anyway, they find rune more stable, more trustworthy and much more suited to their use.

But perhaps it is best the Chaos Dwarf don't have it, would give their army a "Everything like dwarf but much better" edge.

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>>54585370
Actually, was reading Realms of Sorcery recently, and that's one of the things implied in it. That Chaos started to 'leak through' in tiny amounts, before the Gates ever collapsed.

>Fucking chaos lizardmen when?
Fucking never! Don't forget your place warmblood!

>>54585370
It's not bullshit. In order to create the world and run their technologies and magic, the Old Ones tapped into the Realm of Chaos.

The Chaos Gods who are the absolute masters of the Realm of Chaos viewed this as theft and trespass. An assault on their person and sovereignty. The Chaos Gods lashed out and destroyed/scattered the Old Ones and then proceed to attempt to dissolve the world to take back what was theirs. The Elves prevented this by creating the vortrex.

What do we learn from all of this? The Chaos Gods did nothing wrong.

>>54583186
>implying ANYONE is crazy/stupid enough to bring back Konrad

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>>54584639
I don't care about the Border Princes.

But if it somehow got the Grudgebringer Mercenaries into the game, even as a 'Rogue Army' for hire, I'd love it.

>>54585405
I, too, am tired of risking my life for peasants and ale money.

>>54585405
Allahu ratbar

>>54585412
>Allahu ratbar
I squeeked

>>54585405
Best. Warhammer. Vidya.

>>54585370
>the chaos gate was an inside job
>chaos fuel can't melt Old One's beams

>>54585393
I feel it's a combination of factors. Loss of experienced runesmiths, better alternative options, difficulty overcoming their new access to easy magic instead of the slow process of rune mastery. Result: any runes that don't help bind daemons - like with the k'daii - are probably lost.

>Everything like dwarf but much better

Yeah, that's Chaos Dwarfs.

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Hail to the Phoenix King.

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>>54585674
*banishes you to the warp*

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>>54585674
The scowl face looks bad. I want the calm face from End Times. It's more kingly.

>>54585704
>bitter manchild
suits him perfectly.

>>54585477
>anything chaos
>better
Fuck off

>>54585674
Everything in this game looks like shit up close CA please keep to broader images

>>54585761
Keep sucking tha elf cock, cuck.

>>54584523
Where do the Welves get the metal for their armour and shields and stuff?

>>54584657
Now what's the point of a guy like him having a sexy flesh-and-blood wife/concubine?

>>54585824
Mining presumably.

>>54585824
Ask the ground nicely.

Really, one of Kerillian's weapons confirms that elves get resources surrendered to them voluntarily by the world.

>>54585843
Apparently he sucks the life out of her to empower the spell that keeps hin alive

>>54585824
Mining or trading with the dwarves.

>go make some tea
>come back
>two threads passed
goddammit, dat thread churning speed

>>54585889
It took you a day and a half to make tea? Did you collect the herbs yourself?

>>54585346
>Does he actually use his trident now? Makes him look more unique
Nah mate, looks like it's a mod. 'Ere.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873604654

>struggling with a conversion
>try to just mash bits together with blutac
>don't like the results
>look up some artworks and other peoples' conversions
>don't like any of those
>what will I like?
>psych up on artworks, music and caffeine
>sit down, close my eyes, turn towards the perfect image of the model in my mind
>404 page not found

goddammit, help me. my imagination is hybernating. I can't work like that!

>>54585698
Is it just me or does Teclis's render make it look like his helmet is too big for his head?

>>54585913
>It's a pitchfork with a spear embedded in it.
FUCK. That is really clever. It absolutely looks like a legitimate model.

>>54582671
or
>Tankred of wossname some french sounding city
the one with an axe, some fluff, etc.

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>>54585698
Malekith banished himself to the warp.
He needed some alone time, away from his clingy mother.

>>54585843
He's recharging his batteries.

But to your point, I wish tomb kings weren't so affiliated with a skulls and bones motif in everything. They're defined by clinging to their mortal pride and wanting their empires back - why not have this reflected in their behavior and still-beautiful art? Incredibly elaborate clothing hung on withered, dried frames. Stunning crowns on skinless brows. Shockingly lifelike masks concealing paper-skinned skulls. Legions of attendants to regularly rewrap them in brilliantly dyed and embroidered burial wrappings. Laying out feasts that they pretend to wat, catching the mastic ate mush in golden jars where their stomachs used to be, occasionally feeding a morsel to a living subject whose sole job is to describe the flavor in a way that pleases his or her master. Stables of artists, musicians, dancers, gladiators, concubines, all taken from among the living descendants of their peasantry, the desert nomads, or the Arabyans.

>>54585990
There is nothing alive in Nehekgara because all water is poisoned. Sylvania is more hospitable place.

>>54585851
>>54585864
Not really their sort of thing, is it? Digging into the earth or mountains to haul out the precious metals.

And even then you wonder how they know how to work/refine it all, since the last contact they had with the dwarfs (aside from killing them who came to try and cut the forest down and hanging their innards from tree-branches) was during the war of the beard.

>>54585990
>weren't so affiliated with a skulls and bones motif in everything
everyone and everything worth noting in WHFB has skulls motif. things and people who don't - well, they don't really fit in WHFB, they were just slapped on top
WHFB is about skulls, I'm serious
I decorate all the models with skulls

>>54586020
>how they know how to work/refine it all,
They have god of smithing in disguise.

>>54586020
>Not really their sort of thing, is it?

Yeah, an entire civilization just sits around in trees and does nothing else.

>>54586052
Even the Bretonnians?

>>54586069
I don't yet collect Empire or its sub-flavours, so no.

>>54586020
>And even then you wonder how they know how to work/refine it all
These are the remnants of the old elf empire that already had metal weapons before they decided to fuck off into their woods.

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>>54586052
High Elves and Wood Elves belong to WFB.

>>54586069
Grail reliquae.

>>54586098
WHFB could work without them.
Empire, Chaos, and Greenskins are chief players.
The setting is basically "Empire vs Chaos & Greenskins, plus supporting cast". Obviously not to such a ridiculous degree as 40k, but its still chief conflict and chief theme.

>>54586018
Correct, but it's likely the Arabyans and nomads have some Nehekharan blood, and we know Nehekhara extended as far as the Border Princes. Acquiring resources for living servants might be something that causes them to raid caravans or communities, or to engage in piracy. Certainly there are oases close enough to the tomb cities that they face raiding regularly by thieves.

>>54586135
Greenskins have less impact on world than High Elves who constantly save it from chaos.

>>54586052
The legions of skeletons and the kings themselves when unmasked provide sufficiently for the skull quotient. The Mortuary Cult exceeds minimums.

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>>54586135
I would agree with wood elves, but but high elves play a major role in the fight against chaos and have influence in the empire.

>>54586121
Yeah, but that's kinda the exception that proves the rule, innit?

And even then it's only got a skull because it's a skeleton.

>>54586154
>>54586180
that's not what I'm talking about
they are one of the main enemies of the main player. they are iconic. their actual impact on the universe is irrelevant

heck, Lizardmen are presumably keeping Chaos at bay all the time, and they are one of the least relevant factions in the franchise

>>54586179
since when has Warhammer (either one) been about reasonable moderation? Warhammer IS over-the-topness, in pretty much everything

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>>54586195
High Elves were always one of most popular factions.

>>54586195
>they are one of the main enemies of the main player
So, beastmen?

>>54586220
not. the. point!

Look at Warcraft. It has a whole bunch of races. Elves of both stripes are most popular. Etcetera. But Warcraft is and has always been Orcs vs Humans above all else. Everyone else is supporting cast, no matter how much limelight they get.

Same here. WHFB is Empire vs Chaos & Greenskins, plus others. It doesn't offend your favourite faction. It has nothing to do with favourite faction. Its just how the setting is. When you descrtibe the setting, you start with those three, they are they heart and the definition of the setting.

>>54586237
I already mentioned Chaos

>>54586195
You can be over the top in things besides skulls, you know. Like absurd helmet caps. Or beards. Or spikes on your BDSM armor. Or piles of rat feces.

For fuck sake, it's right there in the rulebooks. The High Elves are said to be the greatest enemies of Chaos and the world's guardians.

Not the lethargic lizardmen, the High Elves.

>>54586283
Chill your autism.

You are projecting too much of your own opinions as gospel truth.

I decided to sorta give up on Old Wolrd and make my own homebrew universe which I can do with as I please, and also fix stuff I don't like in canonic WHFB for my liking.


>These are not End Times, the world ain't doomed, its just a regular crapsack world torn apart by bad dudes.
>No MUH CHAOS, just a bunch of evil gods. Also Cthulhu (renamed). There is Chaos, but its more of mindless corruptive force, than a sentient faction. I'm not finished with metaphisics yet.
>There's normally one patron god per race/faction, though there be exceptions. I'm not finished with pantheon, but I'm ripping off Disciples here.
>Map's not copy of our world's
>Set in south hemisphere
>sputher-eastern continent houses Empire and whole lot of human kingdoms and realms, also not!High Elves, Vampires and both flavours of Dwarfs
>tropical northwestern continent houses not!Fimir, not!Dark Elves, Lizarmen, some more humans
>northern continent (baking under equator's sun) houses not!Tomb Kings
>What is basically Antarctis houses Ogres, not!Kislev and black mountains behind which such horrors dwell that nobody goes in there (yup, I'm ripping off lovecraft)
>barbarians, beastmen and greenskins are found everywhere
>not!Wood Elves have a couple of forest kingdoms, but are mainy decentralized across a parallel universe (inspired by dreaming wood from 8th Ed. WE book)
>known territories are comparatively small and cover about a third of world's surface; everything else is terra incognita, here be dragons
>no war of the beard, the dwarfs and elves used to live in peace in fabulous mountains, until not!Bethrezen (from disciples) blew them up and created a massive volcano
>elves and dwarfs silently blame each other and don't talk much, living on the opposite sides of the mountains
>central part of the mountains is full of treasures and wonders of the shattered elf-dwarf civilization, and also some chaos dwarfs (who worship not!Bethrezen)
cont.

>>54586623
cont.
>not!Tzeentch quietly led some elves away before eruption, and told them they are the chosen ones; now they know he's lying, but they prefer to ignore that and believe they are chosen ones and rape the world. no mortal war with HE though, they just hate each other like anybody else
>important point is that neither gods, nor elves, nor dwarfs are dying, nor are dragons. they aren't multiple because their kingdom blew up, but they are slowly rebuilding
>generally, the not!Chaos gods don't fit into the Four's roles, nor are they allies the way Chaos is under Everchosen. they work together because good factions tend to burn the devil-worshippers at stake, and local not!Archaon is just big and bad enough to get some work together
>beastmen are of two types. some are children of local not!Cernunnons, who's also the god of Wood Elves, but believes in survival of the fittest
>others are humans mutated by wimsy of evil gods or exposure to chaos
>there are no halflings. though maybe there will be nasty pigmies in the jungles, diablo 2 style
>humans are not very good guys, they used to all be rather evil barbarians Moorcock-style, and god that made them is one of not!Chaos gods, but they got better
>death of not!Tomb Kings' empire and rise of the vampires are in fact a result of another, not so evil god's attempt to wipe humans out, once he saw how destructive they were
>there ain't no old ones, orcs aren't sexless mushrooms
>not!Skaven are there, digging under all continents

any thoughts?
i dunno really what to do with lizarmen. they live in massive jungles to the east of dark elves, but besides that...

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>>54585674
why the hell did they make him look like shit?

>>54586632
>they live in massive jungles to the south of dark elves
ftfy

north America and Canada are dark elves territory (humorous satire going on with that) and south America is where the lizardmen live.

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>>54586676
He has shoulder armor at least.

>>54586317
High elves have done nothing worth noting since the schism

>>54586767
Taught the Empire orderly magic use and fought in the Great War Against Chaos and Storm of Chaos.

>>54586806
So did the dwarfs, and they taught them gunpowder.

But neither dwarfs nor high elves have any relevance in the story beyond the role of the hero's sidekick

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>>54586623
>>54586632

>>54586699
you did miss the part where I said i'm making a different universe with no parallels to ours, didn't you?

>>54585698
>literally cumberbatch
heh

>>54585843
so he can bone her

>>54584568
there was a hilarious story in TWWH general once, based on alliance between Dwarfs & Greenskins that happed is someone's game. can't find the screencap, dammit

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>>54586850
>so he can bone her

>>54586883
What? He has a ribbed ivory strap-on for it and everything. He may not have a cock, but he can still enjoy some elements of coitus.

>>54586135
That's ridiculous. The setting has always been an excuse for generic fantasy archetypes to throw down using rules.

>>54586895
How? He doesn't have nerves or glands, or... anything, really.

>>54586914
People say this, but half of Warhammer's 'generic' races are not generically done, and half were major trendsetters that other people ripped off.

>>54586924
He still had a will and a mind, however. Sex is a performance art for him. He was legendary in life and he still has a reputation to uphold.

>>54586956
How does he do foreplay? He's got no tongue, no fingers that would be any use...

Does he have a mortal who he employs as a fluffer?

God, that'd be the weirdest job...

>>54586924
Maybe he has magic stimulation or something.

>>54586976
I mean, I can imagine worse jobs than His Exalted Pharaoh's Pussy Licker.

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>>54587043
Nobody has ever said that before.

>>54587439
why are TWWH vampiresses so damn perfect?

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Got muh 6e High Elves. Scanning it now.

It'll take some time, I want to give you guys a good scan so I'll be wrecking my binding and then cropping.

Took me a few tries to figure out scanning at magazine document quality gives the best results.

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>>54587544

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>>54587492
Possibly the combination of the sexy voice with the original Isabella Von Carstein look?

>>54587544
>>54587563
Thanks anon, not even the anon that requested it.

>>54587544
Thank you for your sacrifice, anon. We appreciate it.

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>>54587563
Someone else can probably clean these up more, I just don't want to have the opposite page showing.

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>>54587585
No problem, anons. They're my first and favorite, and it seems most of us stick to 6e, but our scanned 6e is really poor quality and missing the last third.
>>54587592

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>>54587623

Do we have Brunner the Bounty Hunter and Curse of the Necrarch in the mega archive?

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>>54587671

>>54587678
Bruner definitely isn't.

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>>54587754

>>54587743
I think I have it on my laptop, lemme dig around when I get back from work and I'll upload it.

How do I upload to another person's mega?

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>>54587842

>>54587890
>>54587810
>>54587715
>>54587671
such beautiful artworks...
>>54587563
...such uglyass models

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>>54587890

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>>54587968
I screwed up and cropped out the white bottom and page number out of >>54587890 >>54587810 but I'm too lazy to rescan those.

>>54584774
What about the fire daemon things that Chaos Dwarves can summon? Not sure if they're considered daemons of Hashut or not, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Either way, there are minor Chaos gods beyond the main four.

This is why I love Warhammer Fantasy.

What if the Beast from Beauty and the Beast was actually just an ambitious, lying vampire?

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gashnag

(Also still looking for people who want to play Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 2e)

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>>54588099

>>54585843
There are Tomb Kings that sometimes forget they're dead, or try their hardest to do what the living do even if they no longer need banquets and bitches. There is a tribe of humans living in Numas, and occasionally Tomb Kings take on living servants, like in 'Totenkranz.'

Wasn't there a lore bit where sometimes a Tomb King would order a delicious meal, but he wouldn't remember what to do with it? He'd stare at it until it rotted away, or remember the life he used to have and grow enraged.

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>>54588123

The amount of ayy elves in 6e pleases me.

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>>54588132
I recall reading that in 7e TK.

>>54588137

>>54588073
Strigoi seem quite nice, Gahnag protects his people instead of ignoring their suffering, Usharan built a prosperous civilization where vampires and men live in coexistence

>>54585990
I think it's a little bit of irony. In life, they had a huge focus on death to the point their cemeteries were larger than the towns of the living. They put skulls and bones everywhere because of that obsession. A lot of soldiers considered it an honor to die for their lord and be buried with him instead of a promotion or living pleasures.

But now they're undead, and they realize the irony of their past, cheated of the perfect eternal life they wished for and cursed to a long undeath rather than having lived a short but full life.

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>>54588165
Paul Dainton was the only artist who made them ayy, but he was also the most prolific modern army book artist who's art was in 6 and 7e. I think some of the 8e art was Dainton's, but colored.
>>54588167

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>>54588165
Do they?

>>54588208
I think they were in the rpg-books of the first and second edition as well, no idea who draw them there.

>>54588187
Strigoi were - maybe on some level are - surprisingly nice. But now everyone hunts them and in most cases they're too paranoid to let anyone beyond the Strigany close, let alone make more Strigoi. It's a surprisingly well-written bit of tragedy, at least compared to a lot of Warhammer fluff. Leaves them a little one-note though.

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>>54588285
Probably also Dainton. I have no experience with the RPG, so me saying such a broad term is probably not a cool thing for me to make such a broad statement.
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>>54588354
Here's an ayy for you.
I think this is a Loremaster, two editions before the model was released.

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>>54588367

>>54581742
>Humans would almost never work with Beastmen
What is Cathay.
What is Norsca.

>>54588492
He meant playable Empire and Bretonnia. Also norse subhumans are not humans.

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>>54588618

>>54588492
Cathay doesn't, you're thinking of Ind. Just what the cat beastmen are is an open question, too, since they don't seem to have horns.

Norscans only work with beastmen when they've dedicated themselves fully to Chaos.

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>>54588644

>>54588492
What is Cathay?
And what about Ind, Khuresh, or Nippon?
We know so little I can make my own shut up about them.

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>>54588658

>>54588219
That's not Morathi.
That's a random sorceress concept art from Warhammer online.

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>>54588664
If I wasn't posting this, I'd post a Jiang Shi and make a Castlevania joke.

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>>54588699

>>54588073
>(Also still looking for people who want to play Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 2e)
Post time, time zone and contact info friend.
If you are a guy with roll20, I tried but failed to find your game

>>54588589
Some (southern)Norse are decent people
Also Empire is not Imperium of Retardness. Empire tries to be reasonable.
If some beastmen would like to kill chaos orcs or other beastmen, Empire would be all for it, with much of population angry but officials would do nothing to prevent the fight.

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>>54588716

>>54588723
Actually Imperium uses beastmen in Imperial Guard unlike WFB Empire.

>>54588629
>Cathay doesn't, you're thinking of Ind
Cathay I'm sure is home to some kind of kung-fu monkey monks, also they worship Tzeentch openly and trade with Hung.
Cathay does not give a shit about what people in Empire consider moral or sane.

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>>54588804

>>54588804
>>54588728
>>54588716
>>54588699
>>54588682
>>54588658
>>54588644
>point costs not multiples of 5
who ever thought it was a good idea? this is absolutely and completely retarded

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>>54588819
Last page before my favorite section...

>>54588208
>talisman of saphery
>that for only 35 points
Jesus christ

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>>54588835

>>54588835
>totally not ripping off Fingolfin vs Morgoth

>>54585978
I hope there is a dynamic in the campaign for this. Main missions and his mother's side missions. Do both sets, do one set, or do none. Each with different benefits and negatives

>>54588859
The entire setting is a huge rip-off. At least they know what the good stuff is.

>>54588756
You're citing Genevieve-era lore, when they haf a monkey king.

Modern Cathay has a fucking wall to keep the shitty Hung out and the only 'beastmen' they use are Horned ogres.

>>54588927
>Horny Ogres
>paid not in money, nor in food, but in maidens

is a rider standing on dragon's head a retarded sight? can't mount the rider on muh dragon normally

>>54588983
Yes, unless he's in a surfer pose

>>54588983
Not for Elves.

>>54588137
>dat blademaster honor
If you're list tailoring against dwarfs and other low I high T enemies, this is a must take

>>54588956
GOOSH GOOSH

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>>54588848
Sorry for the delay, wanted to get the entire HTP section scanned. I'll crop as I go.

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>>54588629
>>54588756
Cathay has at times been open allies with the Skaven. The Monkey King even had a Skaven advisor.

>>54589276
I miss the old paints

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>>54589450
Oh, the beautiful terrain.

Fuck I wish GW had sold a High Elf building. I've made them, but to have a legit kit...

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>>54589461
>Slipping Morathi's ass into the High Elf book
Propaganda.

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>>54589517
GW had pretty goofy dragons.

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>>54589694

>>54589461
>Build fortifications
>Deploy your army in front of them

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>>54590066

>>54590039
>Tyrion killing Kouran

I don't remember this.
Gay.

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>>54590143
>When GW thought inserting 40k grimderp and Empire High Elf hatred was good idea
Glad this time is over.

>>54590377
You have to find some excuse for them to fight at times, right?

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I'm taking a break because I haven't eaten breakfast yet, and its now 12:06 pm. I'm popping off for a diner with the family.

I've got the rest scanned, I'll crop and post when I get back.

>>54590377
>>54590465
High Elves get a bit crazy about those Waystones. They'll save the entirety of Bretonnia to save one, or wipe out an Empire village and a small army likewise.

So what differentiates the Kurgans from the Hung both in terms of cultural inspiration and what they are like militarily? Think that the Chaos Marauders that the Dark Elves deal with ought to be based off Native American tribes instead of also being Hung?

>>54590487
What do you use to scan physical documents like this? I can't imagine the time it takes to scan each page one by one...?! Maybe I'm thinking of the printer style scanners where you have to lay it flat like a copier...do you use something faster?

>>54590637
It's never really made clear, since they both seem to be horse people. As far as I understand it, the Kurgan are based on Turkish tribes (some people also include Scythians or Huns), and the Hung are based on Mongols/Manchu tribes - but you have a point in that the ones that bother the Dark Elves might be more Native American based, and there's also the fact that Hobgoblins more directly have Khans and such, and it doesn't seem like GW to use the same themes twice.

>>54588723
Some southern Norscan trade with Marienburgers and compete in their Blood Bowl teams.

>Marienburgers in big wool coats, scouting for Blood Bowl talent in the frozen north by watching them cut trees and lift logs.

>>54588723
>Eastern Timezone
>Any time -- preferably weekends; if weekdays, the evening.
>Contact Info -- was hoping to get into some existing Roll20 game (someone here even mentioned they had one -- but the fucker didn't respond to me). So I think I'll make my own. But, if that's the case... I really don't want to GM. I'm Forever-GM for my group of real life friends and I'd like to relax.

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>>54590637
We had a big argument about this a while back but basically the Kurgan are inspired by more western steppe nomads such as turkic people, indo-iranians or eastern slavs as evidenced by some of the tribe names (Kurgan is a turkic/east slavic word for a barrow, the Dolgans are a real turkic tribe, the Avags and the Khazags are Avars and Khazars respectively)
The Hung are more Mongolian/East Asian. They are shorter, have epicanthic folds and similar.
I don't think there's any evidence of Native American-type tribes. I only went looking for that the other day.

>>54590735
Yeah, it seems like Hobgoblins, Ogre Kingdoms, and Hung and to some degree the Kurgan all share the role of "Oriental Barbarians"

>>54590948
Don't forget the Ungols.

>>54590001
>>54590023
>Elfs BTFO
Too bad they didn't attack karaz-a-karak. I would've loved to see those little shit drown in a sea of molten metal

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>>54580859
I just found a 5 man Longbeards command set from 1999. Idk what to do with it, anyone know how much could it be worth in euros?
Sorry for the round bases, those are the only ones I had laying around.

>>54588927
The interesting thing about some of the modern Cathay background is that they're mentioned having an immortal Emperor in Tamurkhan... which, if you go by what happens in one of the Nagash novels (the one about Lahmia) they gave the secret of immortality to one of the Princes.

>>54591463
I'd buy them off you

>>54591463
>>54591764
If they're on good condition, i'd pay.up to 30 euros if it's only the command squad
If you get a full regiment of 30, i'd be willing to pay up to 100

Asked in another thread but was wanting to get more opinions, but for making a Slaaneshi warband, what would be a good substitute for Chaos Warriors? Looking for something a bit more elegant than the typical rank and file beefmen. Got suggestions for some of the more heavily armored high elf units with some customizing, but if anyone else has any ideas/images to look at that'd be much appreciated!

>>54591892
Convert some chaos marauders with more armored but not regular armor

Nothing screams slaanesh more than tentacle-armed pierced nipple half naked beefcakes

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>>54580859
Is it possible to make a Tomb Kings army based on pic related?

>>54589681
argh, my neck

>>54592047
You'd probably be better off using Vampire Counts on account of them having the the Medieval Undead aesthetics. Wight King or Blood Dragon.

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>>54590660
Just a small cheap scanner. Its monotonous and slow, but its just one book.

Phoneposting by the way.

I backed this, dunno if you lot have seen it yet. It'll be good for Vampires.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/warstages-the-gothic-cathedral

>>54591892
Check Mierce Miniatures.

Or just buy Dark Elves and call it Cult Of Slaanesh.

Or Greek minis.

>>54591349
Fuck the war.

Eltharion+Thorgrim forever.

Alith Anar/Grombrindal when?

>>54591961
Hah! True. And to be honest, I will probably have a bunch a dudes like that for one squad.

Part of the idea was like, playing up the kinda Sigvald/the old metal Slaanesh champion on foot with the hooved feet. Fit, but kinda lithe by comparison to all the beefy bears. I'm trying to avoid leaning on the dicks and tits angle too heavily.

>>54592341
Checking them out now, thanks for the recommendation!

>>54591892
buy some 15mm female humanoid models
put them on pauldrons, shield and chestplate

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>>54592432
HEre's some good Greeks.

https://www.crocodilegames.com

>>54591892
>take nurgle models
>file away / fill all nurgly buboes and rust marks and everything
>you must get reasonably armoured fat dudes
>add wine/booze barrels to their backs
>some have tubes from barrels coming to their helmet holes
>others' barrels have taps, while warriors themselves carry steins

>>54592705
Boozed up, bacchanal Slaaneshi warriors actually sounds pretty dope. I might use that idea for some chosen.

>>54581294
Hey. Dickhead. Did you delist your game?

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>>54581294
still have any space for a servant of the lady my good GM ?

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Dark Elves best waifus

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>>54590487
I'm back and fed.

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>>54593348
I'm actually a bit disappointed.
I thought we'd get a bunch of special armies like in Dwarfs. I play both, I was interested in what special things HE got.

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>>54593495
Last "page".

Hopefully the anon who controls our repository nabs it soon.

>>54593508
Thanks anon!

>>54593524
Any time.

Actually, anything else of particularly poor quality we need replaced?

>>54593580
Dark Elves 8e, Lizardmen 8e, Core Rulebook 8e.

>>54593677
Isn't our Daemons also missing a couple pages?

>>54585079
pg 164 of tamurkhan mentions their corrupted runecrafting