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>>54570190

>paizo game thread
>OP's pic is the dnd 4e tarrasque

>>54570202
4e had pretty good art desu.

>>54570190
Devastator.

>>54570126
>>54570127
Oh thank christ
How do I apply? Just stick around until someone asks?

>>54570228
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/81935/essentia-our-last-days (Apps end shortly)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83277/the-fiends-and-intrigues-of-house-karvane (Apps end in about 2 weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84677/godslayers
(Apps end in two months)

>>54570228
Someone got the list of active games ready to post?

>>54570228

Generally someone throws up a LFG and starts a recruitment period. You make an application, typically with a character.

Then a couple weeks later the GM chooses from the applicants and boom you have a /pfg/ game.

Also its a good idea to give some afterlove to your Applications, A lot of anons do reviews on apps to try to improve characters.

Just find a solid pitch, maybe throw in something memeable and you're good.

>>54570228
we generally post roll20 lfg listings for recruiting games in thread. i would repost if i wasnt phoneposting, but i am gonna be running one of the listed games in a few weeks, and the other closes apps tomorrow morning!

>>54570252
Thanks.

>>54570224
>What it ISN'T is "I feel uncomfortable with all the straight people I see in tabletop gaming."

Seriously, is that the gist of the article? Because I'm guessing there's more to it than just those two blurbs and whatever the hell that article's title is trying to convey. If the author and that young woman are honestly trying to say there's a problem in tabletop with "toxic masculinity" than... Fuck them. I despise people like that, the sorts who already apparently have their own comfortable gaming groups yet can't stand the thought that other gaming groups - some of which don't ascribe to her particular brand of social views - exist, and she just can't tolerate that. That's a funny word, isn't it? Tolerance. So many people think it means sunshine and rainbows and smashing that evil Mr Trump, but the reality of the word is it's "putting up" with things that make you uncomfortable.

That's it, that's the secret of the word and the definition it feels like so many of these people just can't deal with. Tolerance is not only a two-way street (one many people who preach it don't want to walk), it's also not a synonym for acceptance. Tolerating something does not mean liking something, it means you can just "grin and bear it." If this woman is seriously bitching about gaming groups having male power fantasies or ogling busty women or some other display of "toxic masculinity" than I think she should just TOLERATE it.

>>54570207
reminder to anon to not be afraid of campaign traits!

>>54570252
Thank you a ton

>>54570269
Killer, I'll whip together an application tonight.

>>54570327
if you can manage it, you have about 14 hours to make an app for Essentia. if nothing else its good practice for apps in general!

>>54570348
Last minute apps are sadness, though.

>>54570355
only if they are bad
or never happen, thats sadder

>>54570252
>two months
The fuck am I looking at

The talk about construct armor swords from last thread reminded me about an older idea I had for a "this isn't even my final form" enemy type but is also doable in higher level gestalt.

It'd be a monk/wizard who wears tiers of construct armors. The outermost layer being a cheaper metal construct, with the constructs gaining in value and defensive capability as you destroy the individual layers.

>>54570454
A one-shot. With a two-month app period.
A ruse by any other name.

Does an elf or half elf magus fit in a mercenary company? Why?

>>54570454
An obvious bamboozle by a known self-shilling shitposter.

>>54570463
Because new spells cost money.

Anyone know a feat for getting additional uses of a spell-like ability? Specifically for a Hellspawn Tiefling.

>>54570496
>>54570460
Which hurts because I've got a backstory that's really giving me the tickles.

>>54570463
It does. For any reason anyone would be a mercenacy.

The Signature Moves trait doesn't actually require the item you choose to be wieldable in either hand, it just gives a benefit for doing so.
I SHOULD be able to choose masterwork half-plate with it, then, yes?

>>54570593
Should work.

>>54570593
>doesn't require wieldable
"while wielding this item in one or both hand"
Anon, you need a reading comprehension class

Would vampires be the ultimate Medici bankers?

tfw you're a bard in a party with a paladin, a monk and an inquisitor, and the 5th player is a witch

tfw all you have to do is exist and occasionally cast a buff spell

feels good man

>>54570742
While wielding, you get the benefit.
It doesn't require the item to strictly be something that MUST be held in your hand.
Ergo, a set of armor should reasonably work.

>>54570835
Dragons are already the bankers in Golarion, specifically the Bronze ones.

>>54570879

I could care less about Golarion. I dont use the setting.

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Concerning Starfinder and playing IRL, anyone make/kitbash any Vesk minis yet?

I figured I'd just stick some kind of lizardman head on some 40k bits, but all I've seen look too feral for my liking. Any ideas outside of 3d printing my own?

>>54570496
Actually, they've never shilled any of their characters in /pfg/ or /ppg/ at all. No one even knows their name on this site.

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>>54570308
>>54570224
>>54570127
>>54570065

Is there a non exotic monk weapon with reach?
When a feature says add 1/2 your level is implied you get a +1 at the bare minimum when an identical feature in another class has that clause?

>>54571020
>When a feature says add 1/2 your level is implied you get a +1 at the bare minimum when an identical feature in another class has that clause?
No.

>>54570949
Something about us living in an age where the "progressives" need to be told to be more open-minded is rubbing me the wrong way. That said, could you actually LINK the article? As I said before, I can't form a good opinion on what "Queering up DnD" even means unless I know how it's being used. I don't want to call an elephant an ostrich because I've only felt the tail.

That said, self-congratulatory behavior is highly indicative of virtue-signaling and appealing to your own little subculture, which is what it sounds like that article was meant for.

>>54571020
No, because paizo.
No, because paizo, and I bet the one without the +1 minimum is a martial.

>>54571081
https://www.autostraddle.com/noelle-stevenson-and-amy-t-falcone-on-queer-women-streaming-dungeons-and-dragons-386107/

>>54570209
It really doesn't

>>54571107
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A question of personal preference.

>>54571097
>glorifying subpar charop as stimulating roleplaying
That's the only part that upset me, desu

>>54571163
This, 90% of the article is just masturbating over how good it feels to be included and having other people who think like yourself.

>>54571081
Well,it's a virtue-signalling site, so that isn't really a surprise. Their rules for posting state that 'oppoessors cannot tell the oppressed they're wrong about anything'', word for word. I'm expecting Sashette to be banned.

>a cute elven ranger appears
>suddenly Ties of Blood is not the hottest trait anymore

>>54571182
In fairness, it's a pretty rad feeling.

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>>54571187
Close.

>>54571214
Of course, but as a straight white male I'm just kind of rolling my eyes at the constant use of cutsey-poo words and the feeling that the author is babying the audience by reminding us again and again how "awesome" this person is and how "amazing" a moment can be.

I guess the article's just not for me, which is why I'm not going to judge it - especially since the article doesn't actually bash my people (because let's be fair here, the tribes have formed and some are gunning for others) which so many others tend to do. They do they, and I do me.

>>54571261
I just wanted Justice for All...why do people have to subvert my Goodly desires, Anon?

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>>54571236
Holy shit, this is literally "muh thought crime" levels of cancer. Are these people just so horribly allergic to the idea of criticism?

Someone, glue these screencaps together, along with the link to the sight, and the "cannot tell them they're wrong" quote from the rules. This shit needs to be saved for posteririty

>>54571261
>They do they, and I do me.
THAT"S A THOUGHT CRIME YOU HORRIBLE CIS OPPRESSOR!

Why doesn't DHB post homebrew anymore? I feel like the last thing he did was the slavic races like 3-4 months ago.

>>54571341
I miss DHB...he actually worked in stuff

>>54571236
>>54571187
>>54571306
See, the problem is that while Sashette's post was actually quite thought-out and informative, it wasn't actually relevant to the article. The author was only saying how the demographics of gaming have changed and it's fantastic to see other people that think like you and have the opportunity to display that openly. From the way Sashette is wording her post you'd think the article is belittling straight people and encouraging others to do the same, which simply isn't the case.

Furthermore, and this is perhaps a bit more important - these people are self-contained in their own little groups. If you actually read the article and some of the more wordy responses to it, they casually mention how the rest of their group tends to be queer too, or contain heavy queer undertones and/or characters. Complaining about these sorts of groups "stifling straight characters/discussions" is like going to a gay bar and complaining about the lack of women interested in letting you buy them a drink.

>>54571163
I mean, subpar charop has its place. Not on the level of "Heavy Crossbow ranger", mind, but it has its place. Maybe someone decides that he'd rather pick up the longsword instead of a greatsword. Or there's a guy who decides that he wants a regular dog animal companion instead of the big cat/dinosaur, or even the "superior" wolf.

>tfw bisexual polyamorous white male
>tfw no one gives a shit about my sexuality despite the fact I do fit into LGBT

The reason for this is LGBT is run by straight women, gay men, and transgender folk. The L and B are essentially forgotten, especially for caucasians.

Honestly the idea that because someone is of a certain sex or sexuality they have to play that sexuality is fucking disgusting. The entire point of the game is to play a character. If you're so fucking narrow minded that you can't play something that isn't exactly like you then you need to leave the god damn hobby.

>>54571363
>Maybe someone decides that he'd rather pick up the longsword instead of a greatsword. Or there's a guy who decides that he wants a regular dog animal companion instead of the big cat/dinosaur, or even the "superior" wolf.

>tfw I do this all the time when applying to campaigns both on Roll20 and here.

>>54571381
I think that makes you a butch queer wymyn.

>>54571363
I suppose to an extent that's permissible. Though there's usually a compromise choice that won't destroy your friends but satisfies your fluff too.

>>54571366
The gayest character I've played so far is about a Kinsey 2. I need to get seriously gay soon, somehow, even if it's just for a shorter game.

>>54571306
>Are these people just so horribly allergic to the idea of criticism?
To feminists, I'd say women in general but it's not entirely true disagreement is hatred, criticism is harassment. Shit A.Sharkeesian went and told the UN that she gets 'sent hate every day' in the form of 'you're wrong' and 'you suck'.

They hate the very idea of being wrong, that's why their entire fucking movement is so disengaged with facts. That's why feminist 'researchers' come into something with an idea and when their data doesn't support it, they 'interpret' the data to make it conform.

>>54571407
That's pretty much the name of the game when it comes to flavor options. It does suck when you have to abandon something with cool flavor because it's just too shitty, though. Like being a Poisoner or using heavy armor

>>54571366
I know your pain. Have you had others try to tell you what your preferences are as a bisexual? I run into it all the fucking time.

It also propagates that the world cater to their needs since most of the time, they want to feel that their PC is accepted...even in places they wouldn't be.

It's also the same thing that made Pillars of Eternity get rid of that homosexual joke.

>>54571366
Not only is it ran by those people, it's advertised primarily to straight people who want to have the good, happy feelings. Labeling your product as supporting LGBT rights is simply the modern equivalent to labeling your product "Green" in the 2000s or "Made in America" before that. It's just another way to make a dollar and feel good doing it.

It's understandable why people do it that way, of course. Combined, LGBT only makes up about 3-5% of the population, that's not at all a viable market to focus solely on when you're a national business.

>The entire point of the game is to play a character. If you're so fucking narrow minded that you can't play something that isn't exactly like you then you need to leave the god damn hobby.

It gets better, later on in the article she mentions her first character was a moody teenage Tiefling warlock that sold her soul to Satan because, and I quote from the article, "Fuck you mom and dad."

>>54571366
LGBT actually really hate gay men. Because gay = faggot minus ally.

>>54571445
>They 'interpret' the data to make it conform.

Isn't that just called "Intersectionality?" In other words, "I can't find a correlation here, but if I stretch the meaning enough I can show why men not wanting to date me is directly responsible for AIDS."

>>54571450

Pillars of Eternity had a homosexual joke?

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>>54571463
>>54571366
>mfw FtM Transsexuals are ostracized by the Community because they're "transitioning the WRONG way."

>>54571450
>Have you had others try to tell you what your preferences are as a bisexual?
My bisexuality has come up all of once in my work place and it was during talking about our company's participation in PRIDE. More than anything people were surprised because I have a girlfriend, which is confusing of a position in and of itself. I told them being in a relationship doesn't change your sexuality, but it doesn't much matter. I was asked what my type was then had people get semi-offended when I wasn't attracted to our gay coworker.

>>54571463
They love them here, but that's probably because in san francisco gay men are plentiful.

>>54571455
>and I quote from the article, "Fuck you mom and dad."
I'm not gonna believe it unless I read it, even then it was probably a joke. No one has that little self awareness.

>>54571420
Honestly sexuality shouldn't come up that often in most games.

>>54571494
They're like the Tremere, choosing to become horrible parasitic demons of the night

>>54571526
In normal games, no, but in /pgg/a games? Shit gets wild.

>>54571526
>I'm not gonna believe it unless I read it, even then it was probably a joke. No one has that little self awareness.

>My awesome girlfriend Molly was the DM, it was my first campaign ever, and she came up with this Breakfast Club idea where we all met through detention. I played Jericho Rose, a tiefling warlock who sold her soul to the devil to piss off her parents—we also had a half-orc jock, a Drow druid who saw herself as a Disney princess, an emo elf ranger, a dwarven wizard nerd, and a Tracy Flick-style lawful good halfling rogue to keep us all in line (and very specifically piss off my character). Playing as a teenage character is really fun, especially when it’s your first campaign, because you can just lean into the impulsive stupid decisions that teens and also new D&D players make without thinking the consequences through. In fact that was my character’s entire thing: Molly made me actually have to deal with the consequences of both being a tiefling in the world and having sold my soul to a demon patron as a teen, which meant I was at odds with the rest of my crew a lot of the time, and all those teen emotions just came pouring out. I think we were all playing some aspect of our actual teen selves so it got…intense

>>54571494
That's another thing. It's fucking ludicrous. I thought the kind of 'all men must die' folks only existed in the relative anonymity of the internet before I met a few in real life. These people are so fucking bathed in hatred it's sickening. I don't know what hurt them but it's sad to see folks become hateful of a full half of our species.

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>>54571363
It does have its place, but by no means does that make it virtuous in and of itself, and believing that doing so for the sake of having a sub-par choice is somehow superior and makes you a better roleplayers is bullshit Stormwind fallacy, and that mindset should be insulted when possible

>>54571352
At the same time though the comment itself was just as well thought out, wasn't insulting or "oppressive" in anyway, and while it did argue against one point the article had, it still pointed out the values in several of the points made. It was a genuine and honest critique about a topic that was touched upon in the article, and rather either ignoring it or addressing the article in an equally polite way, instead the whole post was removed without a word and the poster threatened.

Add in the fact of the "policy" the website has against any form of critique or commentary by those with differing viewpoints, and you have now removed the entire purpose of having a comment section to begin with. It speaks of ignorance born from an inability to accept fault within oneself, and a rabid desire to violently prove oneself to be beyond reproach, much in the same way Paizo Messageboards moderation operates but on an even worse level.

Any community, tribe, people, or otherwise that believes itself to be beyond reproach is doomed to suffer nothing but regression and self-destruction, as they violently attempt to silence the inalienable right of man to have the freedom of thought and expression. Such peoples who attempt to rather than accept or address criticism, but to instead destroy and deny it are ultimately harmful to the soul and spirit of man, and such irrational behaivior only speaks to the impurity, irrationality, and corrupt nature of said militantly defensive group, who would have no reason to be so virulent and toxic in their authoritarian monitoring had they actually been a rational and just community.

>>54570252
Someone post the RotJR chronicle of games, and preferably include thr DMs

>>54571550
You know what my friends wanted to play as teens? A big dumb orc with his dumpy human wife, a literally wooly mammoth, not a sapient one, just a wooly mammoth, a dog person to be fair she turned out to be a furry, and a gladiator because he thought gladiators were cool. Some people seem like they twist themselves into a knot so early.

>>54571556
Obviously being subpar on purpose doesn't make you "better than the guy who goes full op", but somehow it always feels like the topic never has a middle ground.

>>54571552
Strike first. Never give your enemy free reign to plot your death.

>>54571478

Classical Trans joke of a man that falls in love with it and kill hinself after learning the truth.

>>54571596
It does have a middle ground: the begrudging tolerance of people who play classes below Tier 1 by choice

>>54571306
>>54571445
You guys need to stop being so new, blame White Wolf for this kinda intersectional feminist shit.

>>54571478
It was submitted by one of the backers. It was a poem-thing.

Here lies Firedorn, a hero in bed.
He once was alive, but now he’s dead.
The last woman he bedded, turned out a man.
And crying in shame, off a cliff he ran.

>>54571526
>I was asked what my type was then had people get semi-offended when I wasn't attracted to our gay coworker.

I get that a lot, too. The "why don't you find x-person attractive". I've had it be pretty civil before but some people don't get that just because you are bisexual doesn't mean you don't have preferences for what you like.

>I told them being in a relationship doesn't change your sexuality
I don't see what part of that is hard to get. Do people think we aren't going to be happy in a relationship with a single person or something? Just because I like both doesn't mean I can't commit to one.

>>54571494
Fuck those people, too. If you aren't transitioning in the way their precious agenda demands you too, they've missed the whole fucking point of being supportive.

>>54571646
See, but the victim there is the man who is A) broken enough to consider suicide at all, and B) broken enough to deny his own feelings out of some deranged bigotry. That's a damn tragedy.

>>54571664
Not a newfag in the least, but I don't genuinely remember much of any feminist bullshit from white wolf, that said I never really heard anything about white wolf at all because they were basically dead by the time I was coming out of high school.

>>54571627
Hatred just breeds more hatred. Honestly the way I have dealt with these people in real life is avoidance. I know they are entrenched in their beliefs and so won't change for anything I say, so instead I just remove them from my company as much as I can. I wish them the best and I hope they manage to get some perspective, but I'm not gonna be the one to give it to them.

One of the worst things is I consider myself a 'men's rights activist' because that's the only label for it. However that term is demonized. I only interact with that community by targeting the increasing suicide rate in men it climbs every year. I remember the last time I brought it up to one of these people I was given so much hate for it even when I was trying to explain that I have gone through the same depressive cycles, clinical depression, suicidal thoughts, and the like and so I empathize with who I see as socially disenfranchised. A friend of mine I used to play D&D with killed himself. I told a person like this that and they just didn't care about that or my own reasoning of why I cared. It was just fucking strange. I don't know.

>>54571550
>My awesome girlfriend Molly

I'm just kind of peeved how the author feels the need to add "awesome" when describing anyone in the article, as though their actions wouldn't be enough to let us form an opinion on how virtuous or vile they may be.

>>54571556
Pitiable, but inevitable. These groups will whither and die as they have since people first began to form groups, or they will be forced to open their eyes and minds to the "toxic" opinions they have sought so long to sequester themselves from. Saccharine and "sweet" is a word that comes up often when discussing these groups, as they often use flowery, over-positive language to coo and cuddle their members. Sugary words, but as you and I both know you can't live on sugar. It rots your tongue, it rots your mind, and it will leave you starved and angry for reasons you can't quite explain.

What they call toxic are just opinions they can't bear to challenge, either because they actually lack the intelligence to challenge them or they're scared of what might happen if they do. These people are irrelevant to gaming because you and I will never actually encounter one - they have their groups and their messageboards and their articles, and they stick to themselves. While it's a shame to see these groups hurt themselves as they do, it's really not our responsibility to waste an effort on "helping" them.

>>54571664
Isn't White Wolf also dead? And if it isn't dead, it's such a ragged shadow of what it used to be that it should serve as a warning to other companies for what happens when you try to appeal too much to a market that doesn't exist.

>>54570861
Which part of "while wielding in one or both hands" do you not get?
And no, you don't "wield" an armor. English doesn't bend that way so even the RAW-legal wield doesn't work.
You can maybe argue the gauntlets though.

>>54571717
>Hatred just breeds more hatred. Honestly the way I have dealt with these people in real life is avoidance. I know they are entrenched in their beliefs and so won't change for anything I say, so instead I just remove them from my company as much as I can. I wish them the best and I hope they manage to get some perspective, but I'm not gonna be the one to give it to them.

This, fucking this. If someone's being an asshole and you've tried to fix them (and failed), than just cut them out of your life. Either they'll wise up to their ways and change for the better, or they'll continue on their path and find their own little corner to scream in. As the article itself says, life's too short to try and fix something that doesn't want to be fixed.

The best thing you can think or feel about these people isn't hating them, it's not thinking about them at all.

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What feats are good choices on a Hussar Warlord with the Spirited Charge trinity and Golden Lion Style? Elephant in the Room applies, so Power Attack is already free.

>>54571727
>when you try to appeal too much to a market that doesn't exist.
White Wolf couldn't transition out of the angsty goth 90's/early 00's, they tried following the Emo/Scene but unironically "didn't get it".

>>54571826
The Onyx Path V20 stuff isn't bad at all, I think.

>>54568414
>that pic

Has PLD gone too far?

>>54571908
Honestly, it hasn't gone far enough. I hear one of them is still virginal.

>>54570228
Run while you still can.

>>54571908
Considering Catmere didnt even lewd the death titans? I'd say no

>>54571658
But playing tier 1 classes as actual tier 1's is unfun cancer

Bi Anon, here. I just wanted to let the other two know I get that shit too.
>tfw being in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex apparently makes you not lgbt anymore. I got told I was "a lying traitor" and kicked from an LGBT club on campus
>I've had people try to set me up with someone who's not my type just because they want a gay couple in their lives
The worst though
>Having people say they wouldn't trust me not to cheat on them because I'm bi

On another, more /pgg/ related, topic: is it cheesy to play a good Dhampir rogue undead hunter?

>>54571717
>I told a person like this that and they just didn't care about that or my own reasoning of why I cared. It was just fucking strange. I don't know.

Coming into a discussion as a "normie" with one of those people and accidentally [triggering] their ideology is one of the strangest experiences you will ever have. There's just so much hate and rage and self-congratulatory smugness that comes from them you honestly wonder if you ran into a crazy person that was just doing a good job at hiding their power level.

These people are so used to getting immediate reactions of support or condemnation that I don't think they have a response to sheer fucking confusion and vague disgust at their statements, which if you take a step back and look at them are the most bizarre goddamn things you've ever seen.

>>54571937
And that's why lower power classes are tolerated. My point was that the middle ground exists. I play in it all the time.

>>54571792
If you're investing in Primal Fury as well, the Primal Fury Slash feat might be worth taking.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/feats/primal-fury-slash-combat/

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>>54570252
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84677/godslayers

>level 20 gestalt with mythic tier 10 and custom races

>ONE SESSION ONLY

>two month app period

Is this a bamboozle?

>>54571848
Doesn't v20 just give up attempting to appeal and go back to its nostalgia niche? they should try something wildly different by appealing to Gen Z's young conservative crowd: self-conscious god fearing straight-edge Vampires.

>>54571947
In my experience, Bi people are less likely to cheat once they commit. They work like dogs to make a relationship work. Homosexuals? They are the absolute worst about cheating. Straight couples cheat less, and they're pretty bad about it.

Is there anything in SoP worth looking at if you're not a caster?

>>54571989
Everyone says so, but there's only one way to find out - or you can ignore it and let it die.

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>>54571947
>I got told I was "a lying traitor" and kicked from an LGBT club on campus

>mfw I was the sole straight white guy at my university's "Allies for Diversity" club

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>>54571947
Don't play rogues. If you compare them to investigators, alchemists, bards, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc they all basically do the same thing, except rogues are the only ones that don't have spellcasting.

There's other ways to play what you want, without being tied to the shit chassis that is the rogue. Inquisitor or Investigator are much better for what you'd like to do

>>54571999
There's some great stuff for rogues (prescient dodger, rogues know-how), neat stuff for everyone (TRANSFORMATION), and at least neat stuff in general even if you don't intend to play a Sphere caster.

>>54571982
That does sound awesome. Primal Fury and Golden Lion are just great. Utility, support, and offensive might. Super satisfying so far.

>>54572024
Investigator should have just been merged with URogue, both have too many stupid, awkward, shitty flaws and design choices

>>54571999
There are non-caster archetypes in some of the handbooks, you can even Feat into the system and use it to get access to easy Counterspelling.

A few of the handbooks may also have some scattered stuff as well, like the Transformation feat and stuff, though really it varies widely, so you'd have to look at them yourself.

Me, I like the Protokinesis feats in the Telekinesis book, especially the one that gives you telekinetic floating hands.

>>54572070
Matheo?

>>54572018
My school had an LGBT Alliance that was entirely straight white girls and straight white guys who wanted to impress straight white girls.

That's not to say we didn't have LGBT students, there were a few around that were open about it or came out later on. They just didn't want to associate with those people because they wanted to be treated like people instead of "heroes".

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>>54571989
What's the use in even applying to this game if it's going to be a one-shot? I've got an idea I'm in love with and a backstory I think fits the power of the setting, but I'm not sure if I want to spend all that time writing a character that isn't really going to see any play.

But, then again, should I just have fun writing up a character that could get meme'd?

>>54570202
I'll take D&D art over another anime OP.

>>54570252
Someone link me the other bamboozle games. I really want to write some apps but I can't afford to actually add a game to my schedule right now.

>>54571760
Again, I don't care about the benefits.
I care about getting the item.
The item, which is simply specified as "a masterwork item."
I am arguing that simply because the line also mentions "wielding" the item does not necessarily mean that the item must be of a sort that MUST be wielded.
Such as an armor.
Are you daft?

>>54571990
V20 does an eclectic, fluff-agnostic approach, so it simultaneously caters to nostalgiafriends and offers hooks and interaction with 21st century cybercrime and technomancy, the evolving Anarch movement in the Information Age, all kinds of stuff.
I feel like it accommodates almost all vampire players historically (they even made a new Tal'Mahe'Ra book,) but also has enough accessible meat for new-ish players (I didn't even read a book or play the game until two years ago, came from a D&D background, but I really like it.)
Heck, they've even done Dark Age V20, which is my fetish.

>>54572024
Dhampir Lamplighter sounds exceptionally fun actually. Light in the darkness making things that go bump in the night go the fuck away.

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This is how I CG Rebel who is plucky and subversive.

You move Jacobs

>>54571990
Also, young conservatives are a meme. Most kids just want some new phones and maybe a little succ.

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>>54571107
>"Your opinion is wrong!"
>Being this /Pol/

>>54572166
Don't like 30% of them identify as bisexual or non-binary, too? I guess the only solace we can take from this is that most of the problems come from white people, and fewer of them are being born every year. With luck they'll become an inconsequential minority within the next 100 years.

>>54570252
This is good but I wish there was a more basic cheeseball fantasy to start with

>>54572205
>Don't like 30% of them identify as bisexual or non-binary, too?
You're thinking Gen Y, not Gen Z.
Gen Z is full of conservative backlash against that kind of bullshit.

>>54572160
>pro-pedarasty
>irrational bigot
>arrogant in the extreme
>Good

Anon, that isn't Justice. Neutral Evil, without question.

>>54572205
No? Dude, bisexxers and homofriends are like 0.5% of all people.

>>54571989
It's not actually one session only.

Is there a dedicated loremaster class? Someone who studies books and history but not a real magic-user. Best I can think of is Bard, who might learn stories and histories.

>>54572226
Sorry anon, we can't have any of that!

>>54572248
No, Gen Z is full of apathetic neo-yuppies. It isn't backlash, it's indifference. They hearken back to the horrid 1980s, and rampant consumer culture and vice.
They are not virtue heroes. They have no virtue at all, only lust for luxuries and wealth, the harbingers of the cyberpunk darkness of the near future.

>>54572024
Thanks anon, I'm actually leaning more toward Ranger now

>>54572270
>hating gays in 2017
>disagreeing with femenists and Islamic violence is now being a bigot
>doesn't humour and bants
>buying into CNN memes
I'm sorry that you're a sheep who has irrational hatred for Gay Modern Voltaire

>>54572095
Lot of people play PoW classes, Anon.

>>54572338
Islam is the future of the West, to fight it is dangerous to the stability of your own nation.

>>54572319
Wh-why not

>>54572362
t. mudslime

>>54572270
>pro-pedarasty
Having heard the *entirety* of his conversation around that, his statement wasn't so much "pro-pedophilia/pro-pederast" it was more of a "I think youths can *sometimes* be involved in relationships with adults in non-harmful manners". Considerably more of a Dave Chappelles "how old is 16 really" type statement.

I remember the number of girls in highschool that were in relationships with early/mid-20's guys (or sometimes even older) and it wasn't 'le terrible rape experience' for practically any of them. It just WAS.

>irrational bigot
Nah
>arrogant in the extreme
Is it arrogant if you're right?
>Good
Yeah how dare someone engage with nonsense and call it nonsense.

>>54571366
The main reason why I don't play female characters is that I don't think I can do it well at all, and fucking having a female PC with how pathetic some of /pfg/ can be.

>>54572338
Don't even watch CNN, m8. I got my opinion of Milo from his videos promulgated by his fans. That sneering arrogance just grates at me, Anon, and the Clash of Civilizations is a meme.
He was taking advantage of people to make a living like any other NE parasite. A disgrace to his people.

>>54572334
Rangers are kind of meh. I highly recommend inquisitor, they are super good.

>>54572328
You forgot to mention the social views and attitudes of millennials aren't being rejected, they just aren't seen as vogue or trendy.

So not only are they apathetic hedonists, they're apathetic hedonists that indulge in the very things some people hope they'd reject or reverse.

>>54572400
>tfw a tranny and feel uncomfortable playing anything other than vanilla female characters

>>54572160
Who?

>>54572338
Please, his egotistical rockstar persona and self-branding is lame as fuck and far from the genuine professional he was trying to put himself forward as in 2013-4. Its either a carefully crafted ruse or a textbook case of fame going to someone's head.

>>54572384
Ever wonder why white people have become more and more withdrawn, agitated and stressed without any solid reason why? It's because they know on some primal level they're a dying people. The future is brown and coastal, and some people just can't accept that.

>>54572362
>a culture that stones gays, treats women as property, despises free speech, and is vehemently anti-intellectual towards anything involving history and science.
>stability
>the futre
You know the difference between a Muslim and a /pol/lack? The amount of pork in their stomachs.

>>54572402
>A disgrace to his people.
>How how this gay person be gay the wrong way!! Why can't he be as """""tolerant"""" as me?
Hypocrisy rank and vile

>>54572476
Hey, I never said the future was going to be good, just that they are the future.

Does Valiant Keeper's Stance work with Warder's Defensive Focus?

>>54572371
We are only allowed to have tryhard meme team campaigns or anime, stopping the Lich king or hunting down a rampaging dragon is too vanilla! We need to be subversive!

>>54572465
There is no future under Islam, only dark ages. Muslims should be gassed before it's too late.

>>54572392
It's arrogant regardless of the rectitude of your statements, Anon. Being preening and prideful is immoral no matter who does it!

>>54572465
>the future is coastal
The fuck does that even mean? The majority of the human population has always lived within 100 miles of a coastline or river system, in all of recorded history.

>>54572435
Sup Mash.

>>54572476
I meant Greeks, m8. Noble philosophers of old shouldn't have people like that to represent them.

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What was the last time things really came down to the wire for your group, /pgg/? Did everyone pull together and overcome all obstacles?

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>>54572519
Sup.
Who are you?

>>54572424
Oh, it's going to get dark, I understand that much. If we don't crush capitalism now, we may never have another chance.

>>54572371
Tbh though I was watching Stranger Things and playing Card Hunter and those silly early edition DnD adventures sound fun as fuck, maybe allow some more room for the characters but keep the plot and the antagonist you're there to slay front and center.

I don't know what the fuck is going on in this thread, I just know I'm unsure about whether I should drop my casting stat on a halfcaster to 16 post-racials in favor of a healthier spread, since I already have 18/14 in Str/Con.

Ravener Hunter houseruled to be fully cha-based is nice, since I can snag the Cha-in-place-of-dex, but damn if I don't feel conflicted about some of inquisitor's features.

>>54572435
>tfw you're not ready to come out and DM kills all your male characters but lets you role play your female characters out of death.

>>54572537
Last session. One PC down, another staggered, another overwhelmed by minions, while the support caster had already used buffs and done their part, leaving only the staggered and the last melee striker to finish the fight against a mighty boss monster, but they did it. They pulled it off, and the day was won. Some of the bravest champions I've had the honor of playing with.

>>54572557
Fuck off, Memedog

>>54572575

Sure, hunter doesn't need huge, early-game investment in their casting stat.

>>54572570
>maybe allow some more room for the characters but keep the plot and the antagonist you're there to slay front and center.

Elaborate on that last part

>>54572537
I keep getting groups that are really strong in my games...
Never get a chance for brave last stands when you always win.

>>54572537
>guy is carrying mcguffin needs to place it on alter
>he forgot to pull it out so no double move this turn
>he is at low hp and boss will get AoO and drop him if she hits
>mcguffin must be on alter this round
>I make him delay and charge my ass in to soak the AoO and hope boss doesn't have combat reflexes

>>54572557
fuck off memedog

>>54572476
When you advocate for pedo, you've gone off the deep end somewhere.
It's why Milo ain't in the news anymore. Only NAMBLA support him now.

>>54572632
>>54572658
The fuck is a memedog?

>>54572663
>pedo,
>almost exclusively takes it from behind by gay black guys
What did he mean by this?

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>>54571081
There's nothing progressive about it. It's like how North Korea calls itself a democratic republic.

When people start bandying about "cis" as a negative term, it's no different from the mentality of those who started using "fag" as one. Or "nigger" for that matter. But they don't see that, they only see themselves as the plucky young rebels fighting against the evils of liking the opposite gender.

Allowing gay marriage, sure, that was progressive. Two people do their taxes together and handle eachother's will. It shouldn't fucking matter (what do I care, it's not MY ass), waaaaaay back it didn't fucking matter (Romans for example), and it's great that more and more people don't give a fuck about it once again.

But note what's being "fought for" often now. Shit like forcing everyone around you to play pretend: "oh yes, you're totally a nonbinary genderfluid carburator, and we'll be evil oppressors tomorrow if we don't get which one you picked for that day right"? Trying to fuck with closed-class sections of grammar purely for the sake of destroying ease of communication (newsflash; if everyone has a unique identifier, that's not a fucking pronoun, THAT'S THEIR FUCKING NAME)? Shaming and denigrating people for the color of their skin (because I totally beat my slaves two hundred years ago when my finnish great-great grandparents were living in northern fucking europe, I am so fucking sorry for that), or the fact that "despite" being a woman, they also see themselves as a woman (oh no!) AND are into men (IT'S RAGNAROK! RAGNAROK IS COMING!)?

The pieces of shit calling everyone around them oppressors are simply projecting and blaming their victims for exactly what they're doing to them. It's like when fucking american cops sue the family of their victims because of the emotional damages from the guilt of murdering an innocent and walking away completely free.

>>54571527
Except Tremere didn't choose that, they botched the ritual/it was sabotaged

>>54572371
You're in the Demigorgon's lair. You're here to wade through its troglodyte army and find your way through the Demigorgon's maze. You've gotta put the gem into the stone Demigorgon statue to open the secret passage etc.
You're being constantly reminded of what it is you're fighting and you're learning about it as you crawl through its dungeons then when it eventually reveals itself to you then it's like "Oh shit it's the Demigorgon!" rather than "A demigorgon!"

>>54572783
Sabotaged by Tremere and Goratrix, imo. I think those two knew exactly what they were doing, and just bamboozled the others.

>>54572692
http://heavy.com/news/2017/02/milo-yiannopoulos-pedophilia-video-child-molestation-boys-older-men-relationships-watch-cpac-graphic-uncensored-you-tube-response-priest/
Here's your flamboyant god in all his glory. Fucker ended up getting his career sunk, deservedly so.

>>54572318
If you mean just straight knowledge hecks, Bard is pretty much the best there is when it comes to that. And they can do it with fairly low investment as well as apposed to other classes that try to focus on loremaster aspects.

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>>54571552
While they'll all spout stories of how they were 'almost raped' generally speaking it's basically brainwashing, which is why it tends only to start appearing in college - that's where people finally have the time and freedom to run into such folks and actually spend time with them (if you work you'll be busy with real life and back in highschool most just can't spend every weekend doing overnights with their moon-sisters).

It's actually - if my sister and cousin are any indication - a relatively slow process usually starting with some form of rejection or a dumb one-night-stand. Someone will tell you that because you were drunk he raped you - even if he was completely blacked out and you had to do all the work which somehow isn't raping him because uh, only you lose the ability to consent when drunk.

Over the next couple of months and meetings you'll be hearing all about how violated the ugly fat girl gets every time she hops onto the local train, actual abuse stories from the one girl in the group who WAS being seriously beaten by some complete asshole, and by that point you're one "yeah I think we should see other people" by the guy you'd met from all of those stories mixing up and becoming yours.

From then on anyone who dares call bullshit on you is a rape apologist, and also a rapist if they're male. This will continue on until either she turns full butch-lesbian (so until around menopause when she realizes she threw out a big part of what she actually wanted with her life before she 'turned') or finds a penis so spineless her financial security is assured and she henpecks the ever-living fuck out of him for the next 40 years while calling her twisted attitude true love, no matter how dead his eyes look every christmas when you meet.

>>54572318
Investigator also comes pretty close

>>54572851
I like how a Catfolk Bard can double their bonus to knowledge checks, resulting in a +20 at level 20 without factoring in skill ranks or int mod.

>>54572318
Bard and Investigator and wizard

>>54572843
So its basically "Americans with overdeveloped senses of modesty and propriety get triggered" again?
Boy, I hope you and none of these other people complaining ever go to Japan or any other nation outside of the Anglosphere

How did King's Gambit go? I'm not sure if any greentexts have been written, but I'd like to know.

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>>54572975
B A M B O O Z L E

>>54572801
Demogorgon is a name though. He's the Prince of Demons...saying "It's the Demogorgon" or "it's a demogorgon" is like saying "It's the Steve" or "Its a Steve"

I need a level 5 gestalt game so I can over optimize the shit out of a knowledge build. I fucking need it.

>>54572703
>>54572859
Fuck off Atolm.

>>54570252
>Posted the image used for Godslayers on /tg/ the other day
>Was going to use it for my own game
I mean it's probably juuuuuust a coincidence, and even if it wasn't it's not "my image", but I can't help but feel wronged.

How do I play a Dwarf Paladin without wanting to kill myself? That -CHA is deadly.

>>54572951
Oh, so now having higher standard for acting like a fucking human being is a bad thing now? How does it feel when your idol acts like the subhumans you like to make fun of?
Aside, I'm pretty sure you gonna get shanked in Japan for spouting that shit, same as in any first world countries.

>>54572990
Was it though? I vaguely remembers omeone talking about it offhand.

>>54573073
Point buy to 16, take the -2, and deal with it. That's about all you can do.

>>54572875
You think that's good?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/bardic-masterpieces/masterpieces/pageant-of-the-peacock/

Get +4 to bluff and use it in place of any INT skill in exchange for performance rounds.

>>54572975
It went well. I'll see about Greentexting it. We had a lot of fun, though!

>>54573004
Whatever, you understand what I'm saying though right? Like it could just as easily be a dragon.

>>54573073

Steelsoul more than makes up for the loss on divine grace.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/steel-soul/

>>54573073
This.
>>54573111

If you suck your DM off, try to get them to let you sap DEX instead.

>>54573114
I wish I liked vanilla based, but Archeologist just feels like so much less of a hassle to me. Which sucks, because I like versatile performance, I just hate most of the bardic performances themselves and Skald just doesn't do it for me.

>>54572632
>>54572658

/pfg/ please, where is your proof of this

>>54573248

It's probably because he's always going off about how he is a gun-loving conservative from a gun-loving conservative family.

But this probably isn't him, because he's not white, and the shitposters seem to be of the ethnonationalist persuasion.

Which is nice because i want to stay friends with him and that would be too ugly a view for me to maintain respect.

Is it worthy to max acrobatics as a class with acrobatics but not focused on Dex?

So I'm going to play a sacred fist and to be honest I'm going to not have much dex (14 at the very very best, but most likely 12), should I still max acrobatics? I feel when I really want to avoid an attack (from a dangerous melee creature which coincidentally have high CMDs) I'm not going to pass it. And to be double honest I'm don't have skill ranks to spare on stuff that I'm not going to succeed.

>>54572703
This genderfluid thing just doesn't make any sense to me. You "feel" like a girl one day and a "boy" the other? What does that even mean? I sincerely don't understand it, how can you just "feel" like either gender over different days? Is it just "I want to be a boy today" and "I want to be a girl today"? Why? I don't see any reason for that. Why can't people just have masculine or feminine personality traits instead of giving themselves special snowflake terms that don't mean anything? It's so pointless.

>>54573274

>He likes guns and has conservative views

Well that's not so bad.

>>54572672
Rory.

>>54572579
Being male is suffering for DnD campaigns.

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>>54573248
Who knows. Hey fuck you too guy in picture, fuck you too.

>>54573312

You're a monk: Do you have nothing else in your portfolio like maneuvers YOU can do to prevent dangerous meleers from harming you?

>>54573048
Apologies. I'll change it in a day or two.

>>54572859
The rape card is always one they're willing to throw when they're losing an argument, it's this weird nuclear option that I just can't stand because it cheapens the impact of the word and destroys the conversation - how are you supposed to question a rape victim?

It's just a symptom of a greater disease on the English language, it feels. We're so keen on using this big, impactful language that it makes the moments it actually needs to be used feel less important. It's like... When you call everyone a hero, how valuable does he word become?

So /pfg/ I'm torn for intrigue. I want to play an UC cavalier, but the issue is I have also been kicking around a lot of "knows everything" builds.

I am considering playing an Elven Alchemist. Grab Breadth of Experience and Deific Obedience Irori and go to town as a michchemist swimming in +30 to all knowledge skills at level 3.

The knows other UC cavalier build would have a number of kids and two squire cohorts. Both would be level 1 full BaB classes and I would probably make them my characrer's two eldest sons (a level 1 cavalier and a level 1 ranger or some such). I like the idea of being part of a large family and having my family members involved as cohorts and the like, but am unsure of how useful the character would actually be.

>>54573527
No no, don't worry about it. I'm just being childish, the game isn't a sure thing until I get the Starfinder rules and there's plenty of time to get a better image.

>>54573530
You might say that when everyone at the olympics is special, it gets a little retarded...

>>54573552
oh boy here we go
>family members
this is a good and fun meme, but I am also probably going to force "no custom cohorts, gotta actually recruit them" for Leadership one way or another.

still, Leadership is a few levels off, and that could be made to work in time.

Is a masterwork shield/armor worth it at level 1?
The 2 less ACP isn't really making much of a difference seeing as I'd be going from -9 to -7.

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>>54573567
It isn't any trouble, you know. But it is an impressive picture.

>>54573598
Pic related, Carlos.

>>54573605
Leadership is a few levels off, but the squire feat is available at level 3:
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/squire/

A class feature gives me a second similar squire.

I wouldn't mind the cohorts being built by someone else, or even build as deliberately subpar. I just like the idea of being in service to a noble house and actually having my sons help lead the armies.

>>54573552
Besides that, >knows everything is going to have issues just from the simple fact that Knowledge X doesn't simply cover all the needed parts to be the "knows everything guy" in an intrigue campaign. +22 in Knowledge:Nobility may let you recall the entire family tree of House Karvane, but only what's actually public knowledge. Unless used as part of long research activity (like looking for True Names and such) Knowledge X doesn't really help out THAT much with people's secrets - and if you're doing digging research into that sort of stuff in the first place, you need to do a lot more than just frisk a few librarians.

>>54573480
I think there's a 2nd spell that allows me to move without provoke, but not sure if I'm going to use it. Mostly likely I'll just hope my AC is high enough

Im saying because years ago I played a monk and maxing the ranks didn't do much against those kind of creatures

>>54573605
>this is a good and fun meme
TIES
OF
BLOOD

>>54573660
So basically you're the kind of GM who doesn't think high knowledge skills should actually let you know things unless it's on your terms? I mean sure, if the information is literally not written down anywhere, but I have had issues with GMs who can only tell a story by bottlenecking any information given to players.

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>>54573639
You're lucky I was holding back. I also had one about snowflakes and plowing

>>54573685
I've got something filled with blood I want to tie in you!

>>54573709
When everyone is a special snowflake, you're going to get pissed on by people who grumble at how you've made everything cold and boring?

>>54573643
mmnllllllllllllhhhh

I thought I wouldn't have to deal with this problem for a while, but okay.

The main problem of investing into stuff like that is, like any "extra meatball" situation, board clutter. Now the squire is a cohort and GM-controlled in combat, unlike an Eidolon or something, and since I would be designing it I could simply cop out and make it a basic bitch bowman whose only function is a +1d8 damage once per turn, but still.

This isn't really the place for this, and I'd rather have a proper discussion about this sort of thing. Hit me up on Discord.

>>54573605
>this is a good and fun meme
It's a game about nobles and intrigue, family not playing a large role would be dumb.

>>54573720
New replacement arteries? WOOHOO!

>>54573741
One snowflake is unique, a billion snowflakes is shit you scrape off your driveway.

>>54573767
They also melt into tears the moment they're exposed to any amount of heat!

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>Intrigue GM already has a 2hu for an NPC and a 2hu for an app

Why is this allowed?

>>54573695
If there's no reason a certain piece of information would've leaked out (or reasons it wouldn't have), then there's no reason you should be able to find that information with a simple knowledge check _and nothing else_. Naturally, doing research into the shady dealings of a noble house is a great deal easier and faster if you have someone rolling amazingly at KN:Nobility, and those things will help you leaps and bounds in figuring out who has what information, what steps to take next, etc; information you could otherwise have acquired by beating someone up and interrogating them, for example.

But that said, any GM who allows pure rolling of skills and nothing else to solve vital plot points (and also doesn't make his players incur consequences for those skill checks' actions) is a shit GM. Unless the entire party is a bunch of skillmonkeys, and everyone is in on it (Including the GM), "just do X to reach target" is a bad way to go about any game.

>>54573747
I'm not certain that it's a good sign that my mind went right there, but without the irony or sarcasm.

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>>54573799

Am I retarded if I dump DEX as an OD Warder?
I can stomach the -2 AC, I think, and would rather have more STR/CON/WIS.

>>54573855
if you pair OD with ZS, you can make due no problem.

>>54573916
No ODZS for me this time, I'm afraid.
My GM's letting me do OD/SP. I'm going for a shield-man with a mix of IT and EG maneuvers.

>>54573955
the shield can make up for it too. however, i highly-recommend snagging Prodigious Two-Weapon Fighting.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/feats/prodigious-two-weapon-fighting-combat

>>54573799
>Heat

Don't you mean salt? Snowflakes really can't stand salt.

>>54573990
Hey, that's neat. I can do a shield bash TWF build with that.
Maybe I'll splice in TD now or something, hm...

>>54573833
>>54573695
Also, an addendum. There's also the fact that Knowledge skills simply don't cover everything you need to know. Sure, Kn:Nobility might let you figure out who belongs to what house, and Kn:Religion might let you remember who the leaders of the local Asmodean clergy are, but what do you use to figure out where the secret underground vault is? What do you use to figure out who killed the princess? What do you do, overall, when something needs not just *knowing*, but *figuring out*? As in, the events are recent enough that nobody's going to have feasibly noted them down and spread that information - you might be the first one on the scene, or perhaps the truth of that event was unknown until now. You sure as hell couldn't have rolled Kn:Nobility to know Elvargian was still alive until he outed himself; yes, as days go by after the players start their journey, the information might leak, and eventually people might start being able to figure out the ruse (possibly fairly early even, if the players themselves do things to help that out). But before that, it was secret - nobody who knew had spread the information, so you couldn't find Knowledge of it anywhere.

And that aside, you'll also have to GAIN knowledge one way or another a lot of the time. "Diplomacy to gather information" is a thing. Books don't cover everything, especially not the lower, dirtier rungs of civilization - only word of mouth suffices there, and that will not last too long most of the time.

>>54573274
Fuck off, that was in the Discord and you know it. Do we have to start purging?

>>54573817
Why wouldn't it be? Fuck off.

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>>54573833
>>54574054
Bitch, Knowledge skills are some of the most pointlessly spread-out bullshit.

There are fucking TWELVE Knowledge skills in DSP! Twelve, for fuck's sake!

Meanwhile, Bluff, Diplomacy, Perception, and Sense Motive are... what, 4 skills total?

You're telling me that investing in Knowledge is dogshit compared to the "big skills" like Bluff, Diplomacy, Perception, and Sense Motive.

If two players cast daylight in consecutive rounds is that enough to outright kill a vampire?

How do you feel about party members playing with your character's tail or horns?

>>54574201
It's heckin' cute, but sort of lewd

>>54574201
Depends on the character that's playing with them and the one that's being played with
Most of the time it's cute, sometimes it's insulting

>>54574201

Concerned, they will end up hurting themselves with the spiky bits.

>>54574162
It all depends on the time and place, of course. Naturally you can't learn much if you don't know where to look, or who to talk to. If you are master face and get the NPC to tell you where the library's secret room is and you find it and start looking...and then you don't roll shit for knowledge because you're a face and not a bard or INT-mancer, well, you're just as fucked as if you were that lone INT-mancer who could easily find his way about that library and decipher all the information, but didn't have anyone to show him where it was.

Nobody is going to have an easy time being the entire skillset of the party alone. Of course you're gonna have to fucking work with your party members to get anywhere meaningful in a campaign. And besides, all rolls are contextually sensitive - especially face skills. A library or book generally reveals its secrets if you have the skills and knowledge to decipher it; but to learn something from a gruff barkeep or captured bandit takes more than just Rollplaying.

Stop throwing a hissy fit and look at the big picture. Nobody wants you to be the entire party by yourself, because that fucking sucks to play with for anyone who isn't you.

>>54574201
It's...it's like someone playing with your hair or fingers, y'know? Though really, his hair and head's a lot more sensitive.

It's something you let a close friend, or a lover do. The others get let off with a warning, or get a light smack if they don't quit it.

>>54574201

There's a mouth at the end of the tail.

>>54574356
Does said mouth have a throat?

>>54574397

Indeed it does.

>>54574424
Is the mouth sassy?

>>54574473

It sings.

>>54574526
But does it have teeth or gag reflexes?

I fucked up. I agreed to run a game for two of my friends and I just found out that they are the ONLY people playing.

How do you balance encounters with a party of only two people? The characters are a Soulknife and a Witch if that helps.

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>>54574201

>>54574631
>Greenteaneko
Thats a cat up her ass.

>>54574616
Let them gestalt.

>>54574645
I'm not seeing any proof of that.

>>54574616
Literally the actual situation gestalt was made for (as opposed to the powerjerkoff fantasy so much of /pfg/ uses it for).

>>54574742
It's by Greenteaneko, it's never normal shit.

>>54574809
I know nothing about the artist, could you explain.

>>54574845
Known best for his 4-panel comics of mundane objects as monster girls and some random comic about a girl wanting to commit suicide by fucking a zombie, only to have the zombie turn into a normal girl after getting a load.

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>>54574845

Need direction for a build, I've never built a summoner before. I don't need to be rediculously powerful, but I could use some pointers.

Starting at level 3, 3rd party content is light and by DM approval meaning he didn't specifically say anything was or wasn't allowed but he could say no if I use it too heavily.
My last character clashed with the personality of the party, so I split him off and said he continues his adventure solo, I gave my character sheet to the DM who said they'd appear as an NPC also working towards the same goal and sometimes competing with us. In the meantime, I want to play a Fetchling Master Summoner/Shadow Caller. I wanted to provide light buffs and heals for the party, as well as quick easy flanks for our Rogue. Any tips?

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>>54574845
Not him, but here is one from the same artist

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>the elf chick of the party get eaten and swallowed whole by a monster.

What do you do?

>>54574942
.....your pronouns seem confused there.

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>>54574645
>>54574742

>>54575009
>>54575017
>>54575045
Those are hilarious.

>>54573073
By being a wis based Tortured Crusader, duh

>>54575023
Laugh at her misfortune, as I am the swallow whole build

>>54575023
I'm probably the elf chick.
My weapon also isn't light meaning I can't use it to escape since only light weapons can be used while swallowed.
;_;

>>54574319
Can you please turn off your name if not directly talking about your game?

>>54575368
It would also be wise to tripfag if you plan on namefagging.

>>54575368
He WAS directly talking about his game, though.
He was addressing issues someone raised about his game.

>>54575368
But he was talking about his game?
Are you retarded?

>>54575023
Remain completely silent in an attempt to avoid revealing that the DM just entered my magical realm, unwittingly or otherwise.

>>54571681
Thats not really a trans joke.

Game Masters:
What's your favorite type of undead? How do you use them?

Hello.

I want to play a spear-slut for Godslayers, however I do not want to make a Warder (OD/ZS), what do? What other classes provide hefty defensive and offensive capability with two-handed weapons without being a miserable meme?

>>54575714
Undead spirits tied to magic tomes that offer poisoned advice and are working on centuries long schemes despite having almost no power whatsoever unto their own bodies

>>54575714
Truly ancient undead who are basically retired from life and treat eternity like a party or a joke.

>>54575714
Generally ghouls, because they work well for low level encounters on their own, mid level in groups, and higher levels with class levels. Recently I've been on a kick with Totenmaskes because they're fucking awesome.

How big is too big, lads?

>>54575885
When it can't fit inside me.

>>54575885
depends on the subject of the question

>>54575730
Unironically fighter, though pick an archetype. Then go with your choice of wis based initiator(usually brutal slayer) and or archetype(usually landschneckt)

>>54575023

"My little sister can't be this delicious."

>>54575904
How should I deal with attacking adjacent foes or missing out on that juicy Shield bonus?

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>>54575885
You tell me

>>54572109
I probably stick out like a purple cat for saying this, but it being a one-shot is a sizable part of the reason I'm interested in Godslayers. I just can't commit to another regularly scheduled weekly game that will go on for the foreseeable future. But a single day on one weekend? I can do that.

Hell, I've been contemplating running a one-shot of my own (or at least a pretty short game only meant to last a few sessions) so if I get in it'll also be helpful in giving me a feel for what such a quick game needs to run like.

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>>54575023
I'm a Tiefling Ungermaw, so I'm probably the one doing the swallowing. Which sucks because the other party members are already super suspicious of me because some hirelings went missing (which isn't actually my fault, I'm pretty sure we're being hunted by something), so they'll definitely try to gut me.

>>54575962
Bottom left makes me moist.

Who /dangeru/ here?

>>54575941
You can fight sword and board and do 2hand damage with feats. You can use a 2 handed weapon in one hand with feats. Use tha feets.

>>54575899
You'd be shocked how big it can get until that becomes a thing.

>>54576010
Which feat lets me one hand a longspear, senpai-a-lama?

>>54575885
Until the title Swolemoth applies, it's not huge enough

>>54575941
Keep in mind that with Elephant in the Room feat Tax rules, you can take weapon focus (Close), and that gives you gauntlet and cestus, which means you can take shielding gauntlet style without it costing quite so badly. that gives a shield bonus, and the Shielded Gauntlet strike gives you Warpriest chosen weapon damage with he gauntlet, and the third feat lets you retain the shield bonus, add the enhancement bonus to the gauntlet to your shield and your attack, and retain the shield bonus when using two handed weapons on gauntlet strikes.

For a fighter it's almost a must take.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/style-feats/

>>54576091
Depends on 3pp availability. The easiest and most versatile ways are Heavy Arms Hero vig talent from Legendary Vigilantes, and that one lv3 stance from Piercing Thunder. Beyond that, there's QSM+SDS tricks if you're strictly 1pp only.

>>54572537
A fight against the BBEG in the last campaign I finished. Plan A (point Buffasaurus Rex #1 and #2 at her) failed so swiftly and spectacularly that we skipped straight over Plan B (make her eat an auto-crit on Maximized Disintegrate and pray to Shelyn she fails her save) and went to Plan C (Euphoric Tranquility to make her peaceful, have her hug the party's grapple specialist, and then throw up an Antimagic Field to turn of HER buffs). In the end it wasn't close, but one PC immediately dying twice in the first round and all the others failing to be able to hit her made us all panic.

>>54575730
I should probably ask about the not-turbo spellburst savant

>>54575012
pls

>>54573743
A large role doesn't mean they have to be PCs obtained through leadership. They also don't have to have a battle presence at all in general.

newish player first time starting above 3rd level, should I grab with my starting gold +1 weapons, armor, rings and cloak or should I pick first healing wands and other cheaper utility magic items?

>>54576402
what lv, what class/build, etc are you?

>>54574616
Other options include

>DMPC
Just don't make them the star of the show. Make some big burly man who acts as their guardian or something.

>Gestalt
This might not work if the players don't use it to actually cover what they are missing, but this is the easiest option.

>Let them make additional PCs
If they can handle it, let them run two characters.

>>54576418
5th level bladebound hexcrafter magus. Dex because rolls didn't let me go Str without sacrificing too much AC.

>>54575667
Never said it was. I said Homosexual.

>>54573660
>>54573695
Reminds me of when I had a player get very, very angry at me because they failed a knowledge check after rolling very high (which made them assume it was just super-high CR until they beat it). In truth, I didn't tell them anything because the creature couldn't possibly be known to them since its kind existed exclusively on one forgotten demiplane cut off from the rest of existence for a thousand years. I was really rattled by the situation, especially when he said he wouldn't ever be able to trust me as a DM again. I kept running the session after our argument (which included me giving up in frustration and just lore dumping the history of this creature, that plane, and a couple plot-relevant secrets on him), but I was completely out of it for the rest of the night and only half-heartedly running.

Later on, after reflecting on it and talking with him more, I realized that he was really only upset because his Inquisitor character couldn't Bane the creature since I didn't tell him its creature type. In hindsight, I now understand that if I find myself in a similar situation again I should probably tell a player something along the lines of "You've never seen this creature or heard of its kind before, BUT you are able to deduce from [insert flavor details about creature's appearance] that it is [creature type] and probably has [relevant information about its combat stats]."

Anyway, in short, this doesn't have anything to do with your conversation but is a friendly reminder to DMs out there that you can always become a better DM and that sometimes the only issue between you and your players is one of miscommunication.

>>54576493
Knowing why your players want to know/do stuff is good, yeah. If you can at least give them something of what they want, that usually works pretty well.

>>54576468
Never forget your belts and headbands. Resist cloaks are very important. If you are a dexfag, enchanted armor is a bit less so. But yeah, ability boosters first is my way for it.

How can you tell if you're suffering from heatstroke?

>>54576610
Dizziness, light-headedness, headache, muscle weakness, shit like that.

>>54576566
So no pearls, no wands, go directly to armor, ring, cloak as high as possible and then with the rest buy the essential (bedroll, backpack, waterskin, etc)?

>>54576654
Pearls, well, maybe one. Also, you may want a Handy Haversack if you're lacking weight. But wands and shit depend a lot on how your party looks. Do you have a primary fullcaster around? Do you have a healer who can be expected to buy the healstick? And so forth. What are you expecting?

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Has anyone made Spherecasting archetypes for the occult classes? The wiki gives some sample casting traditions for them but doesn't actually have any archetypes.

Also would you give the Mesmerist full caster level in Mind?

>>54576638
Shit, I've got all of those plus inexplicable nausea. What's the prognosis, doc?

>>54576695
Group is already formed and had been playing since 1st level. They have a Cleric, Alchemist, Ranger and Fighter, the Ranger is going to leave the game so that's why I'm entering. I guess I can leave the healing to the Cleric, but as one who played one long ago, I dislike be relegated to the healbot department.

>>54576741
Nausea is also a common symptom of heatstrokes.
Get water and sugar, stat.

>>54576742
The cleric can be expected to pull any healing weight the party needs, so no wand is needed there. With the setup your party has though I'd focus on your main job as a magus - gishing. Don't try to be the wizard. If you buy a lv1 PoP that's for your Shocking Grasps. You right now only need maximum power on your nukes, nothing else. Get a belt of dex and maybe a headband, then power yourself up with cloak and armor. You're a bladebound meaning you don't have to sink money into your weapon at all. Not sure what your alchemist does (bomber? mutagen shenanigans?) but your job is gonna be tagteaming with the fighter up front, and very little else.
If you have extra dosh, buy a haversack or other nice utility magic items that the party might not have due to magic ikea difficulties.

>>54576757
I knew it was a bad idea to go biking in this weather! Thanks anon, got a sports drink and will have some ice cream later.

>>54576862
Alchemist is infusions and bombs as far as the GM told me

>>54576898
Infusion alch and cleric means you should have no shortage of buffspam at your back. Go get 'em, and let the backline do their job.

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I'm a fag who unironically loves expy characters, how the hecking heck do I do Vincent Valentine in pathfinder. ("Immortal" unaging gunwielder that has various supernatural powers and can transform into various horrific beasties from werewolves to 'demons'. Sometimes confused for a vampire, closer to a Tiefling produced by horrific experiments).

>>54576697
Yes, and give him the option of trading mesmerist tricks for extra Mind talents.

At level 10, assuming the GM is okay with it, is it acceptable to dump everything an Invoker has into mastering the Weather sphere? They'll have 15 magical talents, and there's IIRC 11 basic and 1 advanced talent in Weather; I plan to take Weather Specialization to get the sphere, but I'm not sure what to use my other two points on. The stormsoul sorcerer bloodline is thematic, as would be a combination of weather and possibly one more cleric domain, but i'm looking for advice what to do with this.

>>54576898
Alchemists can do one or two of four thing:

1) Bombs, making you a ranged damage attacker
2) Team support, as their extracts (including ones with a range of 'personal') can be handed out to teammates
3) Mutagens, which turn you into a melee power house if you focus on them
4) Skills, because you have an excellent skill pool and a lot of skill points due to being intelligence focused. Investigator does skills better, but alchemist is competent at them.

The alchemist is perfectly fine operating without support, and will likely be providing support to you. Feel free to do your own thing.

>>54577001
You do an expy character by using the character you like as inspiration and letting it grow into its own character, instead of trying to do a 1-1 translation of that character

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>>54577001
Beast form

DHB check your inbox

Anyone know who actually Made the Autism fighter? (Eobard Love)

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>>54577001
Vincent either requires a completely homebrew class, or a gestalt setup in which you go for a shapeshifting sorcerer mixed with a gunsmoke mystic.

you're basically either stuck with "Transforming" or "guns" as your schtick in single-class stuff, though. No doing both.

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>>54577029
>>54577001
Chaos form oh dear god its so wap its cringe

>>54577001
Gunslinger VMC Alchemist with mutagens?

>>54577047
What's the Autism fighter?

>>54577048
SoP Shifter//Gunslinger or Gunsmoke Mystic

>>54577048
>It's another shapeshifting class that has 0 synergy with a shapeshifting race
Fuck paizo, srly

>>54577047
DHB did, come on anon.

aaaaaa I want to fall in love! Who should I PM for ideal smooches?

>>54577092
Basically a fighter designed to kill 9-th level casters as long as they're not autism-casters (infinite wish farms/simulacrum armies infinite WBL via wish farms ect)

>>54577125
Rory

>>54577107
Any way I could reliably contact them? Need some help tuning-up cancerous martials in ways that eobard's character sheet can't adequately answer

>>54577125
Someone thirsty, but open to being vanilla.
Succula, Slow, or Sleep, most likely.

>>54577048
I was almost thinking of going something like Harbinger with skinwalker as a race; using >>54577029 as an alt-mode only. It sadly doesn't quite cover guns, but I guess I could level-dip for that (probably pistolero gunslinger).

Most of his shtick since 'changing' is being overcome by the negative emotions, transformations and horrific experiments done to him.

>>54577125
apparently SSD needs help staying awake
can your love stop his sleepiness?

>>54576757
>and sugar
lolwut, no you need water and a little bit of salt. That's why electrolytes are in sports drinks, electrolyte is just a fancy word for salt.

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>>54577153
>Succula

>>54577269
CountSuccula?
Thiccfag, plays burly knightly types, hangs out and drools over Houtengeki art?
Nice guy, you might like him.

>>54577269
The most egregious selfshilled celeb around. Known for nothing at all.

>>54577269
>3 second gif
>7MB
Really fires up the synapses.

>>54577151
They are on Discord pretty regular, I believe. Just find one of their apps, get the ID and send a request.