Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

>>54547320
If there's a fish around, he just uses mimicry to get waterbreathing and a swim speed, then relies on natural attacks. So not very screwed

>Captcha
>Road Road

>>54547317
>What do they find frustrating? Preparation casting? Limited spell slots? Too many options?
>Focus on actually explaining what the problem is before trying to fix it.

Yeah sorry. They find the limited spell slots too frustrating.
The other two things you cited are why we are currently switching to pathfinder.

In our homebrew, every single spells must've been ruled by the GM. Even after I proposed to used spells from pathfinder.
The preparation part is actually enjoyed, because it add a real sense to camp and have the PC sleep and pause in a long run.
For this last point, I may use the RAW rule of sleep for having the slots back.

>>54547320
>Precisely how screwed/awesome is your character when dunked in the water for an aquatic quest/encounter?

He would just swim angrily, and grill every fish he sees to fuel his water dunking enduced rage.

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What's your favorite level 5 or lower maneuver?

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>>54547320
pretty awesome, being a merfolk water oracle

Dragons 2 greentexts?

>>54547494
I have to ask, why do you care? Like not in a judgemental way, but in an 'I don't understand the reason you want to see this, and I am genuinely curious' way.

I don't get people's desire to follow these games, or to continue to perpetuate this weird circle that seems to go on with games. I don't understand the concept of a celebrity player, and it just...it all confuses me.

>>54547508
because the GM of that game posted a musical number song from the session and I wanna see how it went!

>>54542224
Later! But first, we must review Essentia.
Give me a moment so I can get a list out though.

>>54547320
>Halfcaster with -1 ACP, no ranks in Swim, 10 Strength and 10 Constitution, and no way to obviate verbal components
>Not even a high enough level to get Water Breathing
I'm fucked six ways from Sunday.

>>54547320
>18 Str
>Traipses around in full armor
>With a helmet
>Untrained
He's a goner.

>>54547373
The Arcanist might help; you get spell prep, but can cast any spell you've prepped until you run out of the level slots you need for it. That's a roundabout spell point system.

There's also something like D&D 5e, where you get a very small number of spells ready through all levels, but can cast them out of a slot of their spell level or higher. That would require granting Heighten Spell as a free feat to all casters.

Finally, there's using Psionics; small list of powers known and MP (they call it PP), but that's yet another system to learn. It also doesn't allow for spell switching without a certain ability which allows a character to swap everything. However, it wouldn't be too difficul to allow players to swap a small number of the powers they know daily; one of the Psion archetypes allows essentially this.

How can you creatively impact or influence a scene if your character is in a state of enforced unconsciousness? I feel like going on and on about their dreams gets a little lonely after a while, especially if there's stuff you actually wanted to say to others.

>>54547439
Dizzying Venom Prana from Steel Serpent

Rolled 2 (1d16)

Alright you dipshits, it's time for some REEV(YOU)S

>1 Arnulf Grunwald, LN Male Human, Slayer
>2 Delilah, TN Female Essentia Homunculus, Alchemist
>3 Joseph Bellamy, CG Male Half-elf, Bard/Gunslinger
>4 Farrel Rowe, TN Male Human, Talented Monk
>5 Mikal Torsun, NG Male Human, Cleric
>6 Mormon Burch, LE Male Skinwalker, Brawler
>7 Moro Newt, TN (CN?) Female Human, Wizard
>8 Rosalin, LG Female Essenia Homunculus, Chef
>9 Fidda Rostami, TN Female Human, Vigilante
>10 Red Elder-End Mythcéal, TN Female Flower Nymph, Witch/Vigilante
>11 Eliza Hohenstein, LE Female Human, Investigator
>12 Iridia IV von Ostalfen, LN Female Human, UC Cavalier
>13 Leopold Rudiger, LN Male Human, Inquisitor
>14 Eileen Patharos, NG (LN) Female (?) Human, Vigilante
>15 Siela Serlak, NG Female Half-Elf, Aegis/Soulknife
>16 Wren Galloway, CG Male Human, Ranger

>>54547594
Thanks for the tips anon. I'll check these out with more sleep and see if I can use it properly.
Right now, I've got the homebrewed system, Sphere of Powers, Arcanist, D&D5e and Psionics.

It'll be a long work, but hey, it'll be rewarding if I manage to use it correctly. I will post it after I completed the first playtest and talk about it if any of you want.

Resume from last thread :
I needed to know how to improve my homebrewed spell system to replace the limited spell slots.
>As a spell caster, you gain each level your health dice+the caracteristic used for slinging spell
>The cost of spells are dictacted by their level, and so are their DC : a level 0 spell cost 0 but has a DC of 10, a level 9 got a cost of 9 and a dc of 19 if not stated otherwise
>If you want to sling spells without preparing, you have +2+level of the spell/2 on your DC check (rounded to the superior) for slinging your spell
>If you want to prepare spells, use the normal rule.
>A wizard can learn by heart a spell, and gain one each 3 level. He does not need to prepare it nor to have in his grimoire.
>He can't use spells higher than his level. Using metamagic make him use two times the mana cost of the spell.
>Can only use/prepare spells written in his grimoire.
>Learning a new spell can be by a fellow magic user, with two days per level of the spell learned, or by a DC of 18+level of the spell*2
>You can learn from a scroll, but it is a DC of 18+level of the spell or a day per level of the spell learned.

Have a good night anons, and may the dice gods be pleased with you.

>>54547628
Who the fuck are you, why should I care, and why won't you die?

>>54547641
This

>>54547641
Did you read the namefield? Do you know english? I am reev(you) and i give reev(you)s. What's hard to understand?

>>54547439
For lv1, probably Unbroken Stride. Amazing utility that scales with level.
For level 5, Stance of the Ether Gate for maximum edgelord-try

>>54547628
Man, that's a shitload of human and neutral. And one random LE char.

>>54547668
well this "review" says you suck

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1st for bunnybutts.

>>54547723
*2 LE chars.That's a bold move.

>>54547777
Quads confirm
Someone get on writing the Viera homebrew, I need to make some sweet bunny ass.

>>54547628
Starting off!
>2 Delilah, TN Female Essentia Homunculus, Alchemist
Our first taste of Essentia's custom race, the Essentia Homunculus - more or less androids with some differences - Delilah is a very small-sized package of emotionless sass and impending robot jokes. The letter to the mayor is...interestingly formulated. All in all, she's an unemotional loli doll alchemist with a bit of a complex towards her "Mother", her as of yet unnamed creator. There seems to be a bit of work to be done on this app yet, but I like what's in there. She's one of the several "research-focused" apps, though the specification of her disliking the research-hoarding practice of other Arabrine followers (like her mother) provides an interesting hook.

GOOD POINTS: Sassy robot, loli doll with a mom complex, an accurate depiction of what low charisma looks like
BAD POINTS: App needs some more meat on its bones in places, despite mom complex doesn't define who her mom is, etc

Rolled 13 (1d16)

>>54547849
>forgetting to roll
NEXT

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>>54547777

>>54546485
>in that wholesome fun and self-expression are seen as sinful and wrong
You now realize that while westerners are trying to ban pornography and "incorrect" or "offensive" stuff from shows like some sort of Big Brother, in Japan literally the girls are the ones asking "so what's wrong with 'objectifying' women anyway, if they don't like it they don't need to objectify themselves?" and most of the people in government and on the street think that something that's 'offensive' doesn't mean it can't be displayed.

>>54547878
Giant Angorae are amazing

>>54547837
wizard did some fleshwarping on a population, they now have bunnybutts and ears, not that hard since fleshwarp would likely continue genetically

How would you react if one of your party members started killing innocent people if they had s good reason

>>54547320
Those are some fat fucking tits

Rolled 12 (1d16)

>>54547849
There's a disclaimer about second language here, and it shows occasionally, but it's not something I'm going to hold against this app. Leopold is an Inquisitor of the Shattered Faith,
straight from the fanatics in the Holy Kingdom Sepra. He's got a not entirely amusing past and an entirely unamused attitude. Reportedly his great-grandfather was killed by some fellow from Mestys, and he's pretty big on the DO NOT FORGET thing - he did the same to his own brother after bully memes in his childhood, once he took on his Inquisitor's mantle. Leopold is religious, and very much so. Like, absurdly much so if compared to most other apps, but not actually absurdly so in the context of the game which has plenty of valid reasons for fanaticism around. And judging (heh) by the tone and content of the app (and the picture as well) he's ready to bring the fist of the Ordo Hereticus onto some bitches. He plays his
trope and plays it straight, and does an acceptable job at it though he could certainly strive to be a bit more original. Yes, he's DEVOTED to his faith and all, but I'm certain you wouldn't be burned at the stake for getting a hobby or something, right?

GOOD POINTS: ORDO HERETICUS, WE'RE GONNA KILL THAT GUARDSMAN OVER THERE IN A BIT, HEH, HEH
BAD POINTS: Doesn't really do anything beyond his trope, which is not very interesting.

NEXT

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/81935/essentia-our-last-days (Ends in 1 day)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82673/iron-gods (Ends in 1 week) (bamboozle)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83254/carnal-crown (Ends in 1 week) (bamboozle)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83277/the-fiends-and-intrigues-of-house-karvane (Ends in 2 or 3 weeks) (Reviewanon when?)

>>54547205
This actually looks chill as hell anon. The Nightblade 3pp class is pretty good too but this seems nice and lean.

>>54548048
You know Archi is offering private and detailed reviews right

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>>54547837

An subterrarian alien race who had special horn like feelers that earlier explorers mistook for rabbit ears at a distance. Up close, you notice they don't have eyes and the feeler horns connect to where their eyes would be.

Their feeler horns allow them to sense magic energies through their other sense so they can taste and hear magic. This is because their usual prey is capable of becoming invisible on top of living in such a dark place and this is how they would hunt them.

However, in the presence of too much magic they begin to feel sick if they unfurl their feeler horns.

I wish I was good at drawing but in my head, they look like a mix between pic related and gore magala from Monster hunter

>>54548108
Nobody cares

>>54547837
Would work on it, but I am exceptionally tired. Can pull over some of the stuff from past thread.

When will I be able to play a busty barmaid /pgg/?

>>54548197
I want to use my scylla homebrew in a game some day

>>54548197
When Starfinder comes out

I recommend playing a Shirren

>>54548108
2nd opinion is always good.

>>54548197
Intrigue's taking apps.

It looks good and it also allows lewd.

>>54548214
I guess for purposes of improving other unrelated apps, maybe.

>>54548207
What is this home brew?

>>54548229
I posted it last thread but got no replies ;_;
https://pastebin.com/KVxg6u7S

Rolled 10 (1d16)

>>54548048
>12 Iridia IV von Ostalfen, LN Female Human, UC Cavalier
NO, NOT THE FACE Apparently the mustard gas didn't just fuck up half of her face but all of it, because this app has no picture!
This app is a bit messy. The backstory is solid enough and works for what it does - Iridia is the daughter of a rich merchant house who were once nobles in their own right, until angry rival houses kicked them off that porch. She doesn't want to be a greedy merchant, though - she wants to be the knight in shining armor because apparently that's what her ancestors did in their spare time when they weren't getting kicked out of nobility. Nobody else around her seems to care about this, though, so she's left autistically screeching by herself that she wants her title back. She also suffers from a severe case of KY, which doesn't help either.
There are a few problems with this app, besides not having a face. The greatest gripe I have is the fact that it feels entirely disconnected to the setting. There's no mention of her origins or where her family had their holdings and when, no mention of anything at all part of the setting until the letter comes and showers us with it. And even then there's a fair disconnect between the parts of the app; the letter doesn't always feel like it's describing the same person as detailed in the earlier sections. Bonus points for the giant turtle though.

GOOD POINTS: Pretty cool tank cavalier concept, the acid-to-face-thing is pretty fresh, plenty of potential
BAD POINTS: Messily put together app that doesn't mesh with itself, near zero setting integration outside of letter and feels like it's been transplanted from somewhere else, I HAVE NO FACE, etc.

NEXTO

What would be some good music to play when the players ascend to mythic?

>>54548219
Will it be possible for me to be sandwiched between adventurers?

>>54548252
What's KY

>>54548239
Seems pretty interesting. Have you compared them to the options in the Sea Races book that came out?

What is their history?
How do they deal with the Humans and others?
What happens when they show up in the Starfinder universe?

>>54548299
It's actually just a 'fix' of the Sea Races one, since I didn't like how they were like an 11 RP race outside of the water and also didn't like them having -2 Int despite being octopus-people.

>>54548274
Depends on how cute your busty barmaid is, and if you ask nicely, then maybe.

>>54548284
>What's KY
空気が読めない人
Kuuki ga Yomenai hito
K Y
Someone who doesn't know how to read the mood/situation.

On this board it's generally translated at "autistic."

I'm going to try and get my neutral aligned party to commit evil acts this Sunday. A priceless artifact I had to retrieve for my vampire master was stolen from me and we are heading back to my home country. But I'm not level 1 anymore and I plan on tearing shit up when I get there. Slaughter the innocent, burn down homes, that kinda stuff

>>54548336
Then why not say that you fucking weeb, no one understood your shitass review with that KY crap. I thought you had dropped a letter and meant KYS and that the app was salty and toxic as fuck going around telling NPCs to off themselves.

>>54548363
Well, I didn't write the reviews, as you probably noticed since I'm not the trip you are upset at.

Just answering anon's question, no need to shoot the messenger.

>>54548416
>>54548336
What kind of hyper-weeb acronym is this jfc not even /a/ uses this one

Anyone here think a Eldritch archer (magus)/ Sniper (rogue)/ Arcane Archer class mix would be good?

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>>54548426
>Not even /a/ uses that one
HOW WEEB CAN WE GET?

>>54548460
I mean I lurk /jp/ too, and I've never seen it used so fuck that's pretty goddamn weeb.

Rolled 3 (1d16)

>10 Red Elder-End Mythcéal, TN Female Flower Nymph, Witch/Vigilante
Not quite 13 PAGES but definitely the longest app in here by a country mile and a half.
First off, it's a Flower Nymph, meaning there's a fair bit of "hooting your own horn" involved in this app seeing as it's the player's own homebrew. That said, it seems to have been
worked into the setting without being too obnoxious about it. There is a LOT of wordy words on the backstory of what feels like the entire species, which may or may not be justified?
Either way, once we get to actually figuring out who this creature with like 12 names is, we do so quite thoroughly. She spent 20 years living in a nuked forest, was cockblocked from learning the final magical secrets of her master, and then was 2spooky4the rest of her people to deal with, so she promptly GTFO'd and went "wandering leaf", whatever that's supposed to mean - this app invents a lot of words, like season-cycles instead of years, in an attempt to look cool or seem thematic. Either way, Elder-End cheats her way into human society
and changes identities like a CIA agent, before settling in Mestys as the witch equivalent of a potted plant.
Beyond the size of the app and the blatant liberties with the setting the author takes to force his homebrew race into it, the app is... alright? And seeing as the homebrew race in question is actually on the allowed 3pp list, I suppose it might not be as blatant as it first appears. There's quite a bit of flavor to Elder-End, and whether or not this turns out to be cancer or not is all dependent on whether or not the author can actually play this shit.

GOOD POINTS: Well defined character overall, unironically running Seducer Witch and Vigilante for the lewdist combo, sassy shortstack plant
BAD POINTS: Forced meme race, 13 PAGES, feels slightly out of tune with the rest of the setting at times

N E X T

>>54548474
KY is a pretty standard acronym in Japan. You clearly need to lurk more. And stop being a filthy crossboarder

>>54548474
>>54548460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxjQpHxpLAk
"KY KY"

>>54548494
>reviewing
>your
>own
>app

>>54548496
I know it happens on 2ch m8, but it barely ever happens on /jp/ if at all since I've never seen it.
>crossboarder
I've been on /jp/ since before it was a thing, I derailed a bunch of threads on /a/ with that shitty marisa pic and once a cirno pic

>>54548498
the dice told me to, I had no choice

>>54548511
reeeee

>>54548426
It was a pretty big fad from 2005-2013 or so in Japanese internet lingo. It has started to fade in usage, similar to how "lol" and other acronyms can date people by their usage.

You probably haven't seen it around since it was always more of a 2chan/niconico thing, or perhaps you weren't browsing the internet at that time. It picked up a lot of use in internet anime communities after the economic crisis in 2009 thanks to the rise in post-college neets in the west.

>>54548108
Motherfucker has (You) in their name. They're doing it for attention.

Hide, report, ignore. Do not feed the beast.

>>54548515
VIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW

>>54548511
Well now at least we can ignore your TOTALLY NOT BIASED OPINION THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY MATTER YOU GUYS REALLY.

Fucking reviewers are asscancer.

>>54548534
if anyone actually cares about reviews they would just ask Archi who's giving out detailed and actually private reviews that actually matter unlike this guy

>>54548521
See >>54548506

>>54548547
>"ignore the guy shilling his reviews!"
>shill someone else's reviews

>>54548561
The difference is Archibelle is the GM.

>>54548521
It also can be used as "read the mood!" by dropping person and changing the word read to the imperative instead of the negative form.

>>54548561
>shill the DM's fucking reviews
It's literally the fucking DM, you're not asking for a 'review' you're asking directly "okay, what do I need to change, how's my odds look"

>>54548561
>someone else's
you mean the GM, aka the only person who's opinion actually matters. doesn't matter what this self-shill thinks

>>54548534
Hey, look at it this way, I could've started EE's review with "This guy totally knows what he's doing and you should app to Intrigue right now".

I mean if you want me to fuck off and go work on my own game instead of shill someone else's, okay then? But you guys confuse me sometimes.

>>54548593
No, you're asking the resturant chef to review your work as a kitchen hand during the trial period.

>>54548594
Please continue reviews. Some people care.

>>54548602
I just like hearing opinions about my competition

>>54548610
Same.

>>54548602
I will get to JOSEPH BELLAMY after breakfast.

>>54548521
Holy shit you need to commit sudoku you fucking waste of air weeb.

Why does it matter if someone reviews apps or not?

If his opinion doesn't matter then ignore him.

If you disagree with him then ignore him.

If you agree with him then cool.

Why is it worth getting angry over?

>>54548638
Because it shits up the thread.

>>54548638
It's unnecessary for the game in question, lowers the quality of already bad threads, and is done so someone can suck the reviewer's dick over their dimestore Poison Ivy app.

>>54548638
Because the reviewer unironically suck his own dick and give himself a good overall orgasm. If you were unbiased, you would have skipped yourself.
Although the fact that he is reviewing for a game he app makes his opinion worth jackshit.

Is running vainilla pathfinder balanced?

>>54548716
Not really.

>>54548716
Meet the full-casters. Although introducing 3pp is gonna disrupt the balance even worse.

>>54548702
Does this mean the more negative his review, the better your app?

>>54548750
Probably. One thing I do agree with the master-baiter is that Iridia is a shit-tier app.

>>54548794
I kind of agree

>>54548794
Well the Master Baiter went away so

Hmmm... So I'm going to apply to intrigue as a tavern wench of some sort, that much I know. Other character ideas I'm not sure of. I was thinking an Avowed of some kind who received her letter through the machinations of her patron but I'm not sure what sort of a patron would work for her.

>>54548836
>a tavern wench of some sort

I'm gonna sandwich you hard if we both get in.

A Bard would be a good choice, obviously.

>>54548836
>>54548847
Also, what possible patrons did you have in mind?

>>54548794
>>54548802
Iridia was okay, but the same guy made a good Intrigue app. If he'd at least finish it.

>>54547628
What game is this for?

>>54548867
>but the same guy made a good Intrigue app
No I didn't, the entire app is a placeholder. Don't get carried by the art.

>>54548873
Essentia.

>>54548863
Fey, Shadow, or fiend were the three that came to mind off the top of my head.

>>54548883
Are you going to continue it? The concept is nice at least, even if it's just an Assimar.

>>54548895
Shadow may work.

Are you the same busty barmaid poster?

>>54548867
How is a WIP app with barebone content considered good by any standard?

>>54548909
I am.

>>54548909
>Are you going to continue it?
Yes, I'm busy fixing Iridia based on what Archi told me though so not right now.

>>54548912
He's probably looking at Iri's tits. They're pretty nice tits desu.

>>54548921
Good.

>>54548927
>iri

You mean Adhara. In that case yes, good tits desu

>>54548949
It's Black Irisviel m8

>>54548950
I'm tired. But on a scale of 1 to 10 cabals, what's the likelihood of the Assimar showing her tits in-game?

>>54548966
X cabals, where X is a number between 1 and 10.

>>54548966
Less than showing off her ass.

>>54549028
This is about her skirt length isn't it
It's not a phase dad

>>54548808
No, I went to eat breakfast.

THAT SAID: Time for round 2.
stand by for Smugface mcbard's review.

>>54549038
Asimar Striptease around the campfire after an arduous dungeon trek when

Do we know what ability score solarians key off of?

GM gave the party the body of a dead old god, like C'thulu level. It was just chilling in some hidden cave in a hidden temple. The party is level 4. What the fuck do we do with it.

>>54549086
Run before it spawns an Immortal Ichor.

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>>54549064
Fidda just got updated, so please do refresh the page if you roll her.

>>54549098
We took it with us in a bag of concealment since it was that or leave it with some kobold miners.

>>54549086
Open it and go into your DM's magical realm.

>>54549135
We're already there of our own volition. A dragon also killed us and cloned our souls with theoretically deity level illusion magic. We got cloned by a dick.

Send help.

>>54549102
duly noted.
>>54549064
>3 Joseph Bellamy, CG Male Half-elf, Bard/Gunslinger
It's the token SMUG HALFELF entry of the game! Our JoJo is a wind-turns-the-coat kind of guy, but he's a gentleman about it - he's cynical and lacks faith in the divine, but has enough faith in the hearts of men to make up for it. He's a noble, but cut ties with his family years ago, because his dad was a mean elitist bulli who didn't want his son to have lowborn friends. He's not improved much in that respect, though, and still hasn't learned how to become the anime protagonist he's always wanted to be (that is, anyone except that guy from I Have No Friends), but makes up for this by being able to fake it pretty proficiently and being a good diplomat.
Overall, I have to say I like this app quite a bit. While I think the author may have goofed a bit on the dates he's using, he's still utilizing the setting well in his app, and the idea of a BARD who's a cynic loner is pretty fresh. His "I have faith but not in my faith" thing is also pretty fun, and he uses a lot of different flavors in a good mix to create the juicy smoothie of an app we've got.

GOOD POINTS: Smug helf, except he's not all that smug, troubled and conflicted with a lot of savory flavor and overall good guy
BAD POINTS: Author goofed dates (i think?), doesn't have a last name beginning with "jo" for greater memes

>>54549202
Well, fuck. At least on the bright side, you are all fucked anyways so it may as well see all the shit the realm has to offer.

Rolled 2 (1d16)

>>54549220
NEXT

Rolled 16 (1d16)

>>54549253
We already did this one, let's try again.

>>54549233
Like the mythic hydra and the jade tentacle monster?

And yes, it tried to do exactly what you think it did.

>>54549261
Actually I'm gonna have to hold off on this one for a bit, because potential government crisis and I need to fetch my popcorn

>>54549262
Kek. Fucking hell, your campaign must be PLD-tier.

>>54549296
PLD? I'm not familiar with that.

Not to say it's not been a blast. I'm a twinned summoner with witch spells (gestalt character) and still getting my shit ruined.

>>54549336
It's one of the lewdest shit pfg has ever witnessed. Plainly advertised penetration of the monstrous kind.
That aside, it's cool that you have fun. That means your DM is doing something right.

>>54549383
Is PLD really that good or even lewd? From what I've heard it's just Corruption of Champions where everything fucks you if it beats you but none of it's very good.

>>54549400
That's about right.
Except instead of being fun or hot like Corruption of Champions the focus is just on how painful and traumatic everything is.

>>54549400
I mean that's basically what happens in our game but we went into it specifically with that in mind beforehand.

And we still do RP and non-lewd shit, like fighting said mythic hydra that nearly bit me in half, or getting our souls nearly obliterated until a demigod that's also a huge dick swooped in and stopped that shit.

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What's a good class for an awakened sea turtle?

>>54549400
Defeated Heroine is better than CoC which became furryshit anyway

>>54549448
Any initiator with Iron Tortoise

>>54549426
>And we still do RP and non-lewd shit

It may be shilling this is why I'm excited for Intrigue. Lewd and non-lewd in tandem. This is also where some games, like PLD apparently, fail hard. Too much lewd is a bad thing. You don't want constant, endless ERP, you want lewd and ERP to a healthy measure with the nonlewd.

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>>54549467
>Initiating
>Something with no hands or feet, only flippers
>A TURTLE
>Iron TORTOISE

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What races are more likely to work as mercenaries? Which ones would be the most proficient?

>>54549503
Both are edible desu

>>54549485
PLD sounds like shit. I've got fun highlights of both ERP and non-ERP. There's the time a char met her deity in person (deity apparently having fuckall else better to do). The deity then raped her for breaking a tenant. It was both lewd and extremely developing.

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>>54549512
Everything's edible if you try hard enough.

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>>54549531

>>54549510
half-orcs, exiled drow, tieflings, possibly half-elves surface dwarves, and similar
if the general flavor is warrior or self serving merc is likely

>>54549557
Biggest thing is making sure players feel comfortable with it.

Here, add me on discord and I'll chat with you about it.

Discord: CrystikRage#3004

>>54549584
meeeeee

>>54549595
>adding random discords off /tg/

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>>54547320

How would you stat The Flagellant?

Kuthite cleric?

I'm trying out the Avowed for the first time, going for a melee-focused character with a little bit of blasting on the side.

Is it better for this idea that I level up an aether pulse shape as much as possible, like get Aether Channel up to 4 as soon as possible?
Or should I take a couple different shapes, like Aether Channel 2, Lance 2, maybe Grasp on the side?

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General rules question, though I'm not sure where in the rules this might be covered exactly:

Say that a character has a side-job as a scrivener/scribe/fake-license-maker. If someone hires them to make a copy of something like a Patent of Nobility or a very fine book of some sort, how long would the process take and how much should the character charge?

tl;dr How long does it take to copy a book and how expensive? Assume little to no spells are available.

>>54549633
It was specifically designed so that either is viable.

For melee you probably want to get your main shape to at least rank 3 though, though it also depends on the exact shape.

>>54549700
Alright, so Aether Channel is definitely going to be boosted pretty high.

I was thinking I'd dip Scaled Fist to give myself a better AC--should I instead just go all-in on Avowed, so I can get Aether Channel 4?

>>54549663
I would take a gander at http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/craft/ and see the price/craft rules.

I would judge the book as complex for the DC. And I would compare the book price to a Pathfinder Chronicle Volume if it is a large book which varies from 100 to 200 gp. If you just make the bare minimum check of DC 20, it would take 2.5 to 5 weeks(if I did the craft rules correctly.)

Some other useful items, Forger's Kit if you want to forge and not copy or something.

http://www.archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentMiscDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Pantograph to make/copy multiple pages at the same time if it is hand written.

Or a printing press if it is "typed"

Hope this all helps. This was fun to research and look up stuff for.

>>54549220
Yo use this after you do #16:
>1 Arnulf Grunwald, LN Male Human, Slayer
>2 Farrel Rowe, TN Male Human, Talented Monk
>3 Mikal Torsun, NG Male Human, Cleric
>4 Mormon Burch, LE Male Skinwalker, Brawler
>5 Moro Newt, TN (CN?) Female Human, Wizard
>6 Rosalin, LG Female Essenia Homunculus, Chef
>7 Fidda Rostami, TN Female Human, Vigilante
>8 Eliza Hohenstein, LE Female Human, Investigator
>9 Eileen Patharos, NG (LN) Female (?) Human, Vigilante
>10 Siela Serlak, NG Female Half-Elf, Aegis/Soulknife

>>54549785
>>54549663
Shit, I forgot to apply the 1/3 crafting price.

It would be about 6 days to 12 days.

>>54549785
>>54549820
Oooooh, now there's something.

I was judging it as a high-quality item, and used the 50gp Book of Heritage as a base. I hadn't thought to use the forger's kit. Should I allow Linguistics in place of Craft?

>>54549612
Cleric of Vildeis into Scar Seeker

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Does anyone have the Blood of the Sea pdf already?

>>54549841
So is he trying to pass off the fake book as real? Or just making a copy for someone? I would think Linguistic to try and pass the copy as real and Craft(Book) just to make a copy for use.

You might be able to do both. Craft to make the book. When ever the book gets checked to be a forgery, that is when the Linguistics checks comes in.

As bonus information, the person should have Profession(Scribe/Book Maker) to have a general income per week. (Half the prof check in gold)

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/profession/

>>54547320
Best starter pokemon.

>>54549898
Alright, cool. I'll definitely do that, thanks!

What jobs are suitable for a kid in a mercenary company?

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>>54549949
Pic related.

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>>54549949

>>54549949
Maybe make him start to have an apprentice ship with the cook, blacksmith, the horse guy, be someone's lacky/squire, errand boy, etc. There are even squire archetypes to play around with if you want him in combat stuff also.

>>54546437
But monk unarmed attacks counta s natural attacks

>>54550024

How do I justify training in bowmanship?

>>54550024
Well you can play around with the squire feat. The teacher/master with the feat needs to be at least 3rd level with prof with all martial weapons. Squire can be any class with prof in martial weapons. So you can possible have a Ranger take up a squire/ranger.

>>54550079
Ehhhhh, it's muddy, but I don't think so.

>A monk’s unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons.

It's only for effects which improve the weapon. Power Attack isn't an effect on the weapon, so it's no-go. Like how you couldn't take Improved Natural Attack for your fists.

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>>54550001

>>54550126
>>54550082
Also there is the Groom archetype for rangers which links with the Torchbearer feat.\\

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/torchbearer/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger/archetypes/paizo-ranger-archetypes/groom

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Would aquatic races be claustrophobic in general? They do live in very open areas, after all.

>>54550223
Caves and shit exist underwater.
Moreover, aquatic races in Golarion build underwater houses.

>>54550138
>Like how you couldn't take Improved Natural Attack for your fists.
Because improved natural attacks explicity says so. Look, I'm not trying to cheat my way into the feat, but I find monk's unarmed damage rulings pretty fucking confuse

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>>54550244
Oh. Keep forgetting the houses. I figured most of them didn't live in the caves, but that's also a good point.

Does a Drow Bard make sense?

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>>54550223
>they do live in very open areas
the open ocean is the most dangerous part of the ocean anon. if anything, mermaids would be afraid of it. there is no where to hide, and predators have insane senses to find you.

mermaids would live in kelp forests, estuaries, coral reefs, canyons, caves, mangroves, and other relatively safe areas

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>>54550256
It is pretty crappily worded yeah, but like how Smite isn't an effect on your weapon, neither is Dragon Style. They're just things you're doing, and monk's line only talks about enhancements to the weapon.

Still, I ain't your DM. Ask 'em and see what they think.

Here's a question.

Does having a race's subtype let you take that race's racial feats and such, or is that a no-go?

>>54549520
Anon, why are you trying to brag about playing an over the top game?

More importantly, why are you shitting on another game to do so just because people who aren't in the game are telling you things about it?

>>54550343
According to the Race Building rules, subtype is exactly what qualifies you for racial feats and shit.
No other rules ever stated exactly what qualifies you for racial stuff, so that's the best answer you can get.

I wanna feed innocent people to my undead horde and burn down villages until people worship me. How can I make my party not kill me while I do this?

What kind of mounts would justify investing in riding and mounted combat?

>>54550367
>That moment you realize that halflings and humans don't have a listed subtype on their race page. Or even a type at all.

Well at least they're in the types and subtypes list.

In any case, thanks for that.

>>54550343
No, it doesn't.

For example, Merfolk are Humanoid (Aquatic), as are a bunch of others (such as Lochathah). That doesn't mean they can grab Merfolk-only stuff. You must either be a race, or have something that explicitly lets you count as that race (such as Racial Heritage) to be able to take those feats.

Stuff like Favored Enemy, on the other hand, works off of subtype, as does a few others. Their uses are different.

>>54550412
A flying one. Or if you want to go into Mammoth Rider PrC

>>54550493
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/creating-new-races/
>Every humanoid creature also has a subtype to match its race, such as human, giant, goblinoid, reptilian, or tengu. If you are making a new humanoid race, you should either find an existing subtype to match or make a new one by using the name of the race as the subtype. If you are making a half-breed race, it should have the racial type of both parent races. For example, a half-elf has both the human and the elf subtypes. Subtypes are often important to qualify for other racial abilities and feats. If a humanoid has a racial subtype, it is considered a member of that race in the case of race prerequisites.
>Subtypes are often important to qualify for other racial abilities and feats. If a humanoid has a racial subtype, it is considered a member of that race in the case of race prerequisites.
>If a humanoid has a racial subtype, it is considered a member of that race in the case of race prerequisites.

>>54550493
>>54550520
So what I'm getting is that Merfolk should TECHNICALLY have both Aquatic and Merfolk as subtypes.

Also that giving a cat race the Catfolk subtype DOES let them use Catfolk stuff.

>>54550520
So how does one qualify for half-elf only stuff, then? Would a human taking RH:Elf do so? Or a half-orc doing the same? Does Half-elf have a racial subtype of its own? Since Drow only have the Elf subtype, does that mean Elves qualify for everything that Drow do as well, and vice versa?

Stop being full of shit.

>>54550549
It's not them being full of shit, this is Paizo being fucking incompetent.

>>54550549
>>54550548
Each race has an implicit subtype identical to its' name. It's usually just not explicitly said.

>>54550568
This still means Drow can take everything that requires you to be an Elf, though.
>>54550565
Well that's the case with most of this shit in the first place, innit?

>>54550578
>This still means Drow can take everything that requires you to be an Elf, though.
That is true. And?

>>54550584
And fucking nothing, i guess. Sasuga paizuri etc. Now with extra overpowered underdark races.

https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/2435346/godslayers

>>54550615
>not authorised
M8, make a fucking LFG listing. Noone but campaign members can open that link.

>>54550615
Here's why: Next Game will be: Monday November 23 12:13AM PST (3 years from now)

>>54550615
LFG listing faggot

>>54550615
not even a funny bamboozle like Ruse Cruise

>>54550638
There, it's fixed. You should look at the tags though.

>>54550686
You have to fucking link the lfg

>>54550686
The link isn't fixed.
Post the link to the LFG page, not to the game page.

>>54550692
>>54550691
>>54550638
I am an ignorant person.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84677/godslayers

>>54550731
>Non-Recurring (One-Time) Game
ebin

>>54550731
what utter rubbish.

>>54550731
pls be a joke

>>54550731
>20lv gestalt
>10th mythic
>30 PB
>homebrew mythic PoW
>boosted RP races
Look like we have a new record for the most autistic /pfg/er

>>54550880
Still not as autistic as Kawase's 50PB meme with 13 pages of houserules completely rewriting the game.

>>54550731
WTF is the gibberish in the app thread?

>>54550880
I notice you didn't remember Kawase.

>>54550886
Don't know, mate. At least Kawase makes sense to me. This guy seems legit cuckoo

>>54550887
She summoned The King in Yellow and prayed to the Mother of a Thousand Young and the Dreamer in the Deep.

>>54550911
I will make it known I'm not defending myself.

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>>54550919
Aye, shitposter alert.

>>54550880
Mythic PoW is actually very simple, They're not that much different from spells. The hard part is determining how many to allow per Path choice. Assigninmg X number of myhtic rage powers, Mythic Arcana, and the like is a little harder.

SoM and SoP is just a stupid idea to try and make mythic versions of.

>>54551024
>SoM and SoP is just a stupid idea to try and make mythic versions of.
YOU'RE A STUPID IDEA TO MAKE MYTHIC VERSIONS OF

....They're roughly equivalent to 1.25-1.5 feats each (at least in SoM's case).

How should an exiled Drow, evil or neutral at best, behave?

>>54551107
Depends on gender.
A male would likely be terrified of women and heavily traumatised.
A female would likely be a basic bitch.

>>54551107
Dead

>>54551067
By whose standards? Not "Toughness is better than Metamagic" Mearls I hope.

>>54550919
Two out of three is terrible, anon.

Yog-sathoth is the Key, Yog-Sathoth is the Gate.
Cthulhu no longer sleeps.

>>54551067
>SoM
>2hu's +35 diplomacy bonus
>4th level
Somehow I doubt that.

>>54551107

He would wonder why pregnant humans dont have orgasm result fetuses eating each other like if they were sharks.

>>54551562
Monthly reminder that female sharks are capable of parthenogenesis.

>Iron gods GM is back!

>>54551655
fuck you

>>54551655
Lies.

>>54550880
What's wrong with that list? The game might not be a "game," but half the fun of making a character as we know is making the app.

>>54549417
Isn't it disingenuous to avoid how painful and traumatic it is?

>>54549520
I'd rape somebody for breaking a tenant too. That's rude, and discourages future renters.

>>54549745
Go all in on Avowed

>>54550384
Zuk they dick

>>54550911
>>54550880
Fuck off Kawase

>>54550384
Be really good at blowjobs. Like, really, REALLY good.

>>54552278
Because if the DM doesn't know what he is doing, it is liable to turn to shit. Although I do agree the chargen is a theocraft wet dream

>>54552441
I'm agreeing with you, friend. I'm not particularly keen on playing the game itself, but that CharGen is really turning me on right now.

Are there spells like monstrous physique and similar stat boosting ones that don't turn you into an actual monster for magi?

>>54552548
Transformation.
The animal's attribute (ex. Bull's Strength)

>>54552572
Transformation is 6th level wizard spell, not magus, though and I lose the ability to cast
And for Cat's grace, Bull's Strength, I already knew those

>When your group is so unoptimized your vanilla bard deals more damage on melee than the raging barbarian
Fuck this, why did I accept the invitation?

>>54552548
Animal Aspect line, Channel Vigor, Paragon Surge for half-elves. The first two don't directly boost your ability scores, but offer bonuses to saves and skills, as well as some extra abilities in Animal Aspect.
>>54552595
Transformation is most definitely a Magus spell. Besides that, you can take Wizard spells from Greater Spell Access.

>>54552653
Odd, here http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/coreRulebook/spells/transformation.html said it was wizard spell. Anyway no chance because game is not going to last that far, not even close, it would be a miracle if I reach 5th level spells. And I was looking for stat boosting specifically

>>54552721
The page page is gay and isn't updated all that often use d20pfsrd or Archives of Nethys

>>54552448
>>54552441
The GM has run higher level games than this, and more complicated chargen than this.

>>54552799
Nice shilling.
On another note, didn't this DM got run out of /pfg/ the last time he pitched his game because of some dumbshit rules? I remember seeing the R20 name before.

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>>54551107
They should act more patient, and able to accept the failings of lesser races.

>>54548966
Sometimes Aasimar become very cheap prostitutes because it lets them feel like they're healing people, usually they're associated with temples though.

>>54553524
Why does /pfg/ always obsess with the shitty erp characters but then complain when the games fall apart because the group has the consistency of a wet cumrag?

>>54553605
Yeah, the trick I've found is you gotta go hard with the ERP, then let it sit for like two weeks. Then that soiled cumrag will never fall apart, and will hold it's shape for years. Years.

>>54553524
What? No? Aasimar are valued as prostitutes, this does not mean they would become very cheap prositutes for some hackneyed reason of spreading love. If anything, an Aasimar in that situation would have been forced into it (Aasimar sex slaves are, canonically, extremely valuable) or she's doing it under genuine religious observation, like with Calistria or Lymnieris or Arshea or even Shelyn.

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>>54553524
>tfw in Riddleport
>tfw relatively straight-laced barbarian girl
>tfw have to go to house of the Silken Veil to talk to Sorshen
>tfw EVERYONE IS NAKED
>EXCEPT FOR YOU

THEY NEVER TALKED ABOUT THIS IN SHOANTI SEX ED CLASS

>>54553715
Compare it to ye olde wilde west prostitution, women saw a clear need for women to be around and give company to men, and many turned out to be community builders that after their brothels went up, built schools and banks and churches. They also took care of the homeless and provided things like workers compensation programs.

For an Aasimar this could easily be a "spiritual healing" type thing, and you could build a brothel at the same time that you build a church. Most operate under religious observation that is true.

>>54553801
Sounds like a good backstory for an Aasimar radical of Erastil who sees her services as a means to keep lustful fingers off honest women, while providing her clients with conversation and opportunities to become family men. Essentially, a dating service in a frontier town which possibly includes sex.

I could see it working in a Kingmaker campaign!

>>54553858
>Essentially, a dating service in a frontier town
And helping make sure people end up with the right people! It's so romantic!

Would you all say that oracle is the best class to represent an insane homeless man?

I'm thinking Streets Oracle.

>>54553898
The brothel should also be a temple to Shelyn.

Wasn't there a male-only organization that got retconned out? I recall it had something to do with gay religious folks, but can't recall anything more specific than that.

>>54553911
Slum shaman works too.

>>54554066
Oh yeah the something something choir. Gay mage and martial couples.
Paizo later wrote that their teachings that women can't learn their mystical arts are wrong and evil and made a plucky CG rebell group of lesbian women learning the art.

Y'all's is gay but I still love you

>>54547439
Lance of Power gets the awesome name award.

Rising Zenith Strike gets the way too much damage for it's level award.

Anything that overcomes hardness gets the RIP DM's hard work planning out this dungeon award.

Kill the Wounded and Golden Lion in general is still my personal favorite though.

Not quite finished because I have to do some baking, but I've started rolling out more info on the Factions. Take a look and feel free to ask questions!
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5282543/factions

>>54554192
Awesome!
I was originally waiting for this but eh, I like the concept I applied with.

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I didn't see this get posted: Dataphiles, New Starfinder Organization

http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljzj?Faction-Overview-Dataphiles

It actually rewards online play. What do you think of that?

PS, I dislike that Android's skin. I understand all the Automata players will like it, but make the Machine race look like machines

>>54554066
>>54554091
You're thinking of the Iridian Fold, a Casmaron organization dedicated to the teaching of a unique fighting style that believes one could listen or even "unite" with the soul of another through intense companionship, intimacy and love. This organization is famously male-exclusive, as they believe the innumerable eggs within a woman's womb (proto-souls) are discordant to the harmony of two spirits. Therefore, the Iridian Fold and the style they taught was only available to homosexuals or heterosexual life partners (think Frodo and Sam.)

Frankly, Paizo had a good thing going with this organization, the lore was tight on the "Why" yet ambiguous enough to make people ponder if the Iridian Fold was full of shit. Yet, as the anon said above, Paizo pussied out on making a gay-only organization and included a blurb about a RIVAL school teaching the exact same fighting style, founded by women who were butthurt over the "No Gurls Allowed" sign on the Iridian Fold's doors. Instead of letting us figure out the answer ourselves, Paizo answered it for us and declared the Iridian Fold is indeed full of shit and sexist, as this rival school (mockingly called the Iridian Choir, in reference to the numerous proto-souls within a woman's womb being akin to a choir instead of white noise) can teach their abilities to lesbians, traditional male/female couples, and even 3+ groups.

In essence, everything unique and special about the Iridian Fold was thrown out the door because Paizo was scared of making a male-exclusive organization, and turned it into yet another "special" way of thinking.

>>54554377
I want to **** Historia!

>>54554807
>****
>>>/r/eddit

>>54554763
It's too bad they didn't go Sacred Band of Thebes with it.

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>>54554763
>not playing a game centered about a cult of tough fighting lesbians who wear skimpy clothing in battle for agility purposes

>>54555055
Sounds like Valkyrie Drive: Mermaid is the show for you.

What are some good classes for a Fencer?

I know swashbuckler is the obvious answer and I'll probably be taking 1 in it at least but I'm not a fan of it on the whole.

Right now I'm sitting on Aegis since it's always my go to answer for high powered martials.

How do traits that increase total spell damage by +1 interact with spells that do damage multiple times such as fiery shuriken, snapdragon fireworks, magic missile, or acid fog? If the situations work differently please explain them each.

Can someone give me a break down of DHB's cavalier? What sort of things it does/what kind of class features it brings to the table. What makes it actually worth a damn?

>>54555195
if DSP is allowed, pick your initiator of choice and then go Landsknecht PrC

>>54555234
waifu potential

>>54555256
Nope, no PoW. Otherwise I would be going with a Candle Mystic for the ultimate hope fencer.

>Be paladin
>Have scarce as fuck spells per day
>GM tricks you into spending spells to then don't have a combat

>>54555220
+1 every time it is considered to be a from a separate damage roll. Fireball would get just +1 while shurikens would be, what, 1d8+1 three times or so forth.

>>54555220
Type of bonus, if no type is specified, is untyped and stacks with everything. If you get two "enhancement", "sacred", "luck", "competence", etc they don't stack and only the highest prevails

>>54554763
You're one of those huffy literal faggots, aren't you?

>>54555195
>What are some good classes for a Fencer?

Warder (Zweihander Sentinel), take the Scarlet Throne Style feat at level 3, and prestige into Landsknecht when you can.

Alternatively, do the same as above, only start as a Warlord instead of Warder.

>>54555257
I don't get this meme, explain please.

>>54555195
Daring Commando Cavalier, Bladebound Magus, Arsenal Chaplain Warpriest, Avenger Vigilante, Scout+Swashbuckler URogue, but you have to work for it (Circling Mongoose chain or swap Swash for Thug and go for intimidation/Dazzling Display/Shatter Defenses)

>>54555447
/pgg/ thinks that support roles belong only to characters that who are either too pure for this world and have to be protected, the precious waifu that they are, or sluts who support via promises of a fellatio or a cunnilingus and apparently forgetting that a squad leader or commander could be considered a support role, much like the fucking class description for skalds implies that a good portion of non-Ulfen skalds are.

>>54555531
Why are you implying that a mechanical support character in battle who is also a lewd support character out of battle is somehow a bad thing?

>>54555550
You're likely to think less of a commander that was gagging on your cock the night before.

>>54555576
Nonsense, this inspires loyalty.

>>54555531
>>54555550
>>54555576
>>54555591
Thanks for inspiring my next character concept.

>>54555576
Man we just talked about the Band of Thebans.

>>54555550
Yes, but only because those kinds of characters are usually Fiddy Shades of Grey's Anatomy levels of poor writing. And the lewd support is apparently the only support that exists according to /pgg/.

>>54555591
No, it inspires lust, not loyalty. Instead of inspiring a feeling of brotherhood and comradery (however the fuck it's spelled) it inspires only a need to do a thing to get a blowjob and sometimes the idea of getting a blowjob is not as inspiring when you are faced with certain death. A reach around is not worth dying for.

>>54555576
I don't know about that, anon. I read a particularly saucy pastebin from F-List that featured something like this.

>Centre Gascoyne
>Gascoyne

IT'S GASCOIGNE YOU SHIT.

Have your character ever been dismembermented and eaten alive?

>>54555717
Your fetish is shit and you should feel bad.

>>54555677
Nah, brah, if my leader was a female who was saving my life during the day and giving me head every night, I'd fucking die for her.

>>54555677
People will do strange things for lust.

Also >>54555669

>>54555730
>People will do strange things for lust.

People will do stranger things for loyalty. You can get a blowjob from any of the hundreds of camp followers or even fellow lady-knights if you know where to look, but a quality commander that can maintain the image of a woman you want to get behind is far more valuable than simply being a woman you want to GET BEHIND.

Also, how dare you bring up the Band of Thebes. That was built around love and companionship, not lust. We're not talking about a lady-commander you have a deep, intimate relationship with, we're talking about a lady-commander that will let you fuck her ass after the battle. That is not comparable to the Band of Thebes.

>>54555712
It's a French name ending in o-i-n-g-, no wait, o-i-g-n-e. That's "Gaskwang".

>>54555727
Maybe, but that's because she saves your life. A bad commander promises to give you and all other members a blowjob while a good commander will instill a brotherly love in the rest of your squad so much that you all are willing to die not only for the leader, but so that your brothers will live to get that blowjob because damnit you love those guys and the commander is inspiring. Dangling a blowjob in front of you like a carrot before a donkey works only so far, because not even the dumbest donkey will walk through a pack of wolves no matter how many carrots you dangle before it.

>>54555788
Anyone who unironically uses the term lady-knight sickens me. Knights are knights. It's just like insipid normalfags who say things like manwhore. Whores are whores. No need for more.

>>54555730
People will kill a man for booty.

People will kill an entire civilization for loyalty.

What are the chances of someone crawling back after being buried alive? How high should be its stats/skills etc?

>>54555872
Who says she's a bad leader just because she sucks cock?

>>54555882
I call female knights 'dames', fight me.

Why Sohei's Devoted Guardian class feature doesn't get the minimum of +1 but Diviner's Forewarned gets it (on top of other goodies) even when Sohei loses a class feature for that and Diviner doesn't?

Why the more I play this game the more sickened by it I get?

>>54555788
You are a gigantic faggot.

First, you brought up lust in the first place. Second, the Band were said to be those "chosen by Eros," which is the god (and term) of lust. Third, the point of discussion is that someone you fuck and fight with is someone you want to protect more, which was the idea behind the Sacred Band.

Are you actually a homosexual man, a Men's Rights activist, or just a run of the mill triggered little bitch?

>>54555882
Well, if I just said knights than that might suggest the dudes are getting blowjobs from dudes, so I had to make a distinction between female knights and male knights.

Why does that sicken you? When a profession goes from gender-specific to gender-Neutral, it becomes necessary to denote a male worker and a female worker. It's like getting angry at "Murse" referring to a male nurse.

>>54551331
>le 2hu SoM meme
You realize almost all of that shit got addressed afterwards right? Sure as hell can't get that +35 Diplo now. Most of the broken shit for that wasn't even from SoM!

>>54551196
By straight comparison. Many talents are X feat with some extra on top, some with a bit more than others. Yet you can still get a single talent for a single feat, which means the SoM team thinks many of those feats should have been stronger in the first place.

>>54555913
Because that's the implication you give that all there is to it is that the leader sucks cock. Plus it's poor form for a commanding officer to form close relations with your squad. You are their brother and dad, but always their leader and that last part kinda means that your connection is superficial because chances are that they are going to die and nobody wants a leader that retreats at the first sign of danger because their their precious children and friends are running away. Look at movies for good examples of good squad leaders: they are the boss and while they can be buddy buddy with them sometimes, they are always yelling "that's an order, soldier" instead of "honey boo Anon-kun, would you please because I asked".

>>54555966
Seems like it's just your opinion that a good leader can't suck a dick.

>>54555941
Because Paizo devs write material and don't bother balancing it, unless it pertains to a very narrow band of fighting man competence.

>>54555884
And the man is loyal to the booty. That's the point.

>>54555989
A good leader can suck dick, it just has to be someone not under their command.

>>54556030
A good leader knows when to suck their subordinate's dick.

>>54556037
Which is never.

>>54556045
Are you a good leader who is also a cocksucker? I don't want your opinion otherwise.

Does Lingchi Warrior make Armorist playable or am I better off playing a Sword Birth Incanter?

I'm all about that Unlimited Blade Works right now.

>>54556037
>>54556045
You've both made your positions clear and this arguement disolved into "nuh uh" "yah huh" like 4 posts ago.

>>54556055
Yes. I've sucked a thousand cocks and I can attest that sucking the cocks of the people I command did nothing to them except give them something to complain about to the CO when they try to got their assess transferred under the CO who is know to fuck everybody up the butt, the thankless assholes.

>>54556058
Armorist is playable in the sense that core paladin is playable. It sucks to play, but you do have a few neat things.

Really, just get a GM to give you 4th level initiating and you're golden. That, more than anything else, is what armorist needs.

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>>54547320
>Precisely how screwed/awesome is your character when dunked in the water for an aquatic quest/encounter?
>Level 1
Fine
>Level 10
Suffocating faster than you've ever heard of...
>Level 20
A god

>>54555157
UNFFFFFFF

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How many non-humans are in your party? How many humans are in it? Do you have any exotic or rare races in it?

>>54555926
I might fight ya!

>>54555963
If that's your motivation, specify for all. You sully the dignity of worthy knights by qualifying their worth and singling them out like this.
Either say Man-Knight, or use knight universally. Anything else is a bizarre insult.

Why can't we talk about something more relevant to Pathfinder, like what the heck is going on in Casmaron.

>>54556145
Only the fighter is human. We used to have a human Bloodrager, and I would have been human, but I'm a slut for languages, and Aasimar can get 2 per linguistics rank, so here we are.

>>54556150
What the heck is Casmaron?

>>54555882
Don't listen to this poster. She's a kunoichi.

>>54555941
Because one is a caster and the other a martial, duh

>>54556145
One party is only humans, the other party has no humans.

>>54556145
We've got two tieflings and an Aasimar, and three humans.
Tieflings and Aasimar are pretty exotic, I'd say.

>>54555792
fuck off woolie

>>54556145
There's not a single human in the party. The closest is a skinwalker.

>>54556138
Why is she worse at level 10?

>>54555234
So the best I can describe DHB's UC Cavalier is "absolutely terrifying". It's a combat monster with enough tricks and utility not to flounder once combat ends.

Basically DHB took the main 5 parts of the cavalier class Mount, Order, Challenge, Banner, and Tactician and beefed up 4 of them. Then on top of it added Oaths which are basically rogue talents/rage powers/alchemist discoveries but for cavalier stuff.

The Cavalier's "support" stuff is mainly "shout at people to give them teamwork feats on the fly" and "hold up a banner that gives everyone a bite attack/makes everyone have a gaze attack/makes everyone fly/makes everyone better at certain combat maneuvers/gives everyone temp HP". The UC Cavalier is actually a better front line combatant than base cavalier because he has a few more challenges per day and has a mount that can actually function in a dungeon, plus some really cool mount options.

One of the Oaths is called 'extra mount' and is basically so you can have your outdoors and indoors mount as separate things and switch out as needed.

>>54556145
3 humans, a half-elf, a fish, and a kobold.

>>54556322
Got a link?

>>54556311
Breastplate and large steel shield that she's not proficient with... and 5 Str/7 Con.

>she
Nice scries.

>>54547320
He laughs at the face of watery danger and even straps a few extra weights to his ankles to make it harder.

How much is crippling himself if a wizard decides to wear a gamberson wiht or without a helmet?

If you have to choose between having pounce or dealing +2 to +3 extra damage on each attack which would you chose?

>>54556652
Depends on the build. What's your class?

New thread:

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>>54556685
Sohei1/Enlightened Paladin6 and thinking in the future picking a level in unarmed fighter (GM uses the preerrata one) for either pummeling charge or dragon ferocity, My Str is 20, but I think I can get a +2 in the next two levels

I asked this the other day but only got an answer

>>54556737
Pounce then definitely

>>54556145
We have an android, two tieflings, an aasimar, an oread, and an I'm-not-sure-what.

>>54553356
No, she's in a couple of roll20 games, that's all.

>>54554377
Androids aren't machines. They're bioroids.