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Old Thread: >>54523483

>Warhammer maker Games Workshop declares a victory as profits double
http://www.cityam.com/269101/warhammer-maker-games-workshop-declares-victory-profits

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/

>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Latest news :
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>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in pdf(and epub), SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
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>WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-Anon doing Abaddon's work)
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>>54527431
Repostan in new bread.
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>>54527511
doubtful, dark eldar weren't the focus of any big campaign books in 7th. as for khorne (daemonkind) there was a campaign book with kharn on the cover. i believe that book came out before chaos legions or angels of death
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My local Flgs is doing the fate of konor thing this week. Any decent builds for Iron Hands?
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>>54527549
Dreadnoughts and Rhinos.
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>>54527549
Here is a good guide line ref!
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Best chapter tactics for Carcharodons? I like their hit and run methods in the lore, so I was thinking either Ultras or White Scars.
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For the greater good!
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>>54527549
I always get IH and IW mixed up, doesn't help both are pretty irrelevant.
Anyways, uh you got your 6+++ and... You don't have much to build around do you? Do you even have a named character?
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>>54527547
Cool thanks for the input man! Trying to suss out some cool ideas for ye olde kitchen hammer.
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how do I avoid getting tabled on turn 2 or 3?
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>>54527568
White scars are pretty trash unless you run them as heavy assault marines themed.

Even then, their warlord traits/relics and so on are trash.

I'd go Raven Guard or Ultramarines.
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I'm thinking of picking up 40k again after 10 years.

Should I start a Black Templar army because they look cool?
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>>54527568
Raven guard is the best option and their parent chapter. But until the FW rules come out I'd say pick whatever you think feels right to you with your sharks till then.
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Anybody got any more death guard leaks?
>already seen plagueburst crawler
>already seen tiny pic of mortarion
>already seen terminator from the teaser
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>>54527549
>local friendly local game shop
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>>54527589
What army are you fighting and what army are you playing?
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>>54527584
wow those are cringy
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>>54527589
stop bringing nothing but flyers
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>>54527597
Sure why not?

Their rules are kinda hit and miss and require you to be quite boxed in to your playstyle, namely melee heavy marines.
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>>54527597
Hell yeah! Welcome back Anon to help ya along I think that their rules for 8th have leaked. Chapter benifit is re-rolling failed charges and then their stratagem is some witch cancellation stuff. Have fun!
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>that feel when your fav recaster goes offline.
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>>54527584
want.
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>>54527616

Semi related, why is there an acronym for both LGS and FLGS?
Is there a high rate of unfriendly stores?

>>54527589

Depends a lot on what you play and play against
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>>54527624
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>>54527597
the one the neophyte is talking to looks like space marine bobby hill.
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>>54527608
Anyone have a timeframe for this shit?

crawler and termies most importantly.
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>>54527638
D-did the feel turn you into a buxom Asian Anon?
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>>54527638

Who?
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>>54527597
play black templar and spam reivers all day.
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>>54527596
I run a lot of ranged terminators and Relic Contemptor Dreadnoughts. The whole army's pretty short ranged, so Raven Guard tactics aren't as useful and I've got Tyberos for re-rolls on the Terminators if I pick Ultras. I think I might go Ultras and see how they go.
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>>54527675
2nd this notion!
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>>54527649
thank you
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>>54527643
It's not really a business where you need to be friendly unless you have a lot of competition.

I don't think that has anything to do with the acronym though, I think it's just personal preference.
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>>54527637
Is it a good time to get back into 40k? Different anon here.
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>decide to build some shit to distract myself from pain in my leg
>6 hours for one little vehicle
>now pissed off as well as in pain
well that was a fucking mistake lads
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Never better
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>>54527657
>not being a boxom asian woman.
>not having sugar daddies out the anus
>not having all the sex and money you could ever want
>not using all that money to buy, paint,and play Tyranids.
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>>54527676
Raven guard tactics help you not get riddled with holes on the advance to murder the other guys dudes.
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>>54527589
stop leaving yourself open at deployment, take advantage of 8th, stop thinking in 7th, always take anti tank, play to objectives. this is some stuff i gotta remind myself of often
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>>54527638

It makes you Asian?

>>54527693

Maybe
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>>54527693
I would say so I haven't seen so many people active in the hobby in years! And they are actively trying to maintain system balance and what not. End of the day a couple codexes in that will be shot to hell BUT you'll have lots of people to bitch about it with!
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How much do you really like chad marines?

I fucking hate them.
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>>54527707
I just teleport half the army in and the Contemptors move 9". I'm pretty much directly in their face by turn 1, making the ranged defense pretty useless. The rest of the force is made up of tacticals in Razorbacks, and vehicles don't benefit from CT.
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Are the Damocles novels in any of the megas?
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>>54527775
Yep!
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>>54527714
I got tabled regularly in every edition I've ever played up until this one and I've been so afraid it is going to happen again that I haven't played 8th yet

>>54527627
I don't own a single flier
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>>54527754
I feel like repainting the army of about 50 old rogue trader beakies and 15 or so terminators just to use against primaris armies
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>>54527754
I love the sculpts but until today i was skeptical of their usefulness on the tabletop. but after a game with an almost all primaris force today i was quite satisfied with their performance.
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They planning on releasing modular multi part plastic Chads or what. I want to make some stalker bolt rifles to relive the fun of Space Marine. Y U NO BAKWARDZ COMPATIBLE??!?
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>>54527633
>forced to play melee heavy marines
>forced

I don't understand. Is there another way to play space marines?

>>54527637
Are they really good against psykers now?
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>>54527791
Which army do you play?
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>>54527754
I fucking hate you.
And so does your spouse/significant other
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>>54527797
Space Marines aren't actually spectacular at melee. Bolters in rapid-fire range often do far more damage, especially when combined with special weaponry.
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>>54527633
See, you say that like it's a negative. If you are the type of person to pick Black Templars that would be a positive
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>>54527794
>sculpts
you mean CAD models?
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>>54527814

Get fucked chad, beakie old school marines coming through.
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>>54527839
CAD Marines?
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>>54527807
in 3rd it was space marines
in 4th it was space marines
in 5th chaos marines
in 7th I tried both CSM and DA

probably the best win rate I ever had was against the original necrons that phased out
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>>54527797
Here are some black Templar warlord traits!
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>>54527796
so far leaks seem to be that we will be getting 10 man chad boxes with wargear options like auto bolt rifles, stalker bolt rifles, and underbarrel grenade launchers.
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>>54527597

god damn that art is absolute shit
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A choppa boy is 4 times killier than a marine in combat

How do we fix this?
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>>54527850
I'm sorry anon, I think you're just bad at the game
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I can't remember, does Perturabo have the obliterator virus?

inb4 he has the shitty fleshmetal weapon rules
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>>54527839
did you know that you sculpt in zbrush? only difference is that your fuckups are reversible and you have more texture stamps. why do grognards hate CAD?
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>>54527498
Still not enough dakka.
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>>54527856
Are there crimson fist warlord traits in the new codex?
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>>54527862
It always seemed fucking weird that humanities finest only have 1 attack in close combat base.
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>>54527862
Choppa boyz should be a bit more expensive, but them being more dangerous than marines in CC isn't a problem in itself.

Upping Boyz to 8 PPM would be fine imo
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>>54527856

I didn't realize it was 7th edition at first
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>>54527850
What is your unit composition? Transports are essential, and so is utilizing terrain that completely blocks line of sight. Never put stuff out in the open unless you're using it to direct damage from your more valuable units.
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>>54527824
>firing on your enemies from afar and never engaging in glorious melee combat
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>>54527584
What would you even use these as? The only melee weapon that sword could be is an Honour Blade. Ethereal?
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>>54527883
>Upping Boyz to 8 PPM would be fine
FUUUUCK no it wouldnt

Boyz are overpriced as fuck as it is
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>>54527824
play smurfs and you can do both
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>>54527881
Aren't Primaris marines humanities finest now though? They've got 2 attacks each.
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>>54527840
> t bald fat manlet neckbeard
Have you ever even known the touch of a woman? That you didn't pay cash up front?
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>>54527914
Maybe I'm just coming from a scrub Aeldari point of view, where all my units are boring and expensive

Feels bad that I skipped 5th through 7th ed, I think I missed Eldar's day in the sun.
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>>54527739
That sounds interesting. I'll have to check out a local store to see what the crowd is like.
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>>54527923
> humanities' finest?
Yes. Yes Chads are.
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>>54527584
>Not basing your female Tau models off this design

I mean, if you can't have a female Tau with highcuts and floofy hair, why have one at all?
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>Got my two Weirdnob Warbands in today
>Literally same day

Can Duncan get any more based?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0JmSC2Rt9g&t=0s
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>>54527873
Usually it's because CAD makes it too easy for bad modelers to drown a model in details, which usually looks like shit in 40k's scale.

Primaris don't really have that problem though besides some of the character models.
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>>54527894
In 3rd and 4th I didn't see the value too much of transports and tended to use a lot of long range firepower instead. I didn't have a lot of models then and I would have to add stupid upgrades to reach the 2250 point level the groups usually played at.

in 5th something awful would always happen to my rhinos, stuff would get pinned, or it would explode and a ton of saves would get failed, or things would get shot up after disembarking and wouldn't have critical mass to do anything in the assault.

In 7th my rhinos usually got popped in the alpha strike and my deep strikes would usually not show up until turn 4, if they showed up at all. The games I played had almost no terrain but I didn't want to be a poor sport about it.

I played in a semi-casual local tournament once and got last out of 50 people, even behind a person who dropped out halfway through the tournament.
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Do people think the new reivers can have a shoulder pad on each arm?
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is it hard to magnetize lychguard? I feel like theres 4 kits worth of stuff in that box
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>>54527881
correction: manlets only get 1A
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>>54527988
>40k
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>>54528019
yeah that would be a massive bitch
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>>54527869
No, he is a Daemon Prince of (almost certainly) Chaos Undivided.

Chaos Undivided Daemon Princes are now canon after Traitor Legions, where it explicitly mentions Lorgar is a Daemon Prince of Chaos Undivided.

Since Pert is a Daemon Prince, has never had any alignment to a specific Chaos power (aside from one Nurgle virus he used ONCE), and Undivided Daemon Primarchs are a thing again, it's logical to assume he is also Undivided.
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>>54527954
Because I can.
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>>54528040
>Orks
>Mattering
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>>54528109
>hating meme spewing stormweenies makes you antifa
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>>54528010
If bad things keep happening across multiple games and editions, it's probably not luck, you probably just need to git gud
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>>54528010
You're in luck with 8e then. Vehicles can't be popped with a random shot anymore, Rhinos are T7 10W and have 3+ saves. They're 70pts roughly, and are worth every bit of their points. If you have them, I'd run Razorbacks because they have Rhino stats but have a heavy weapon on top. Twin Assault Cannon is probably the best all-rounder weapon. Marines are the toughest they've ever been, thanks to cover giving a +1 to to saves.
Lastly, why don't you just make up some of your own terrain? Your opponents are taking advantage of the open field, just grab some styrofoam and start carving. Whack it on a cork base and drybrush that mother. Run a bunch of lascannons on dreadnoughts and razorbacks, and finally wring some enjoyment out of the game man. You deserve it.
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>>54527638

Who was it?
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In the lore, are there chaos controlled planets with cities and people going to work?
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Why do bolters have the bumps above the barrels?
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>>54528173
If by "going to work" you mean "enslaved" then, yes.
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>>54528175
ironsights for when muhreens want to kick it oldskool
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>>54528109
You don't understand anon, some of us dislike autistic political rambling.

I don't care who it's from or aligned with.

SJW's and /pol/tards are both insufferable because they both think that their ideology is above criticism, and thus should be talked about all the time without interruption.

>>54528156
Wow I've never seen a right winger do that.
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>>54528173
Yes cities but no going to work they just become like the chaos wastes in WFB. Depending on the planets ruler you are sort of lucky even if they let you live a barbaric lifestyle.
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>>54527786
Is it in a subfolder with a name, or am I Just blind?
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the torsos look like they're sarcophagi from hellbrute kit as well
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>>54527498
Is that mountain of guns a real model and if it is , what it it called?
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>>54528280
nigga cmon...
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>>54528253
In 40k under background I believe
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>>54528273
meant for

>>54527379
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>play orks
>constant urge to convert for the sake of conversion
>play tau
>shit-eating grin becomes plastered on face
>play necrons
>grow mustache just to twirl it
>play chaos
>BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
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>>54527568
theyre suggested to be a Raven guard sucessor. the deployment shenanigans would suit your CC units.

They've got an assult focus so BT would work to.
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>>54528315
>40k meme starter kit
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80 poxwalkers turned out to be less bullshit to assemble than I thought

painting them, on the other hand...
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When are they gonna shine the spotlight on the new Primaris-only chapters?

Would like 2 or 3 to be given some serious lore and make them interesting, so they can compete with the mainstay chapters.
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>>54527584
>melee tau
>not farsight enclave colors
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>>54528376
Just use washes.
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>>54528317
>getting this assblasted

wew wee lad
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>>54528381
my guess is they will get some mentions in the fate of konor vox chatter.
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>>54528381
Reaper? DIE! DIE! DIE!
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>>54528381

The most important one so far is probably the Wolfspears as they're the only space wolf successor in existence and even had their fortress monastery built during Dark Imperium.
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>>54528382
>farsight colors
>not painting them blue with the blood of the Tau who are still enslaved by the Ethreals

It's like you don't even want a Glorious Revolution
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>>54528376
>Not knowing about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_gc8Dw0lI
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>>54528436
>blue with the blood

yeah... about that, blue no more
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>>54528449
headcannone
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>>54528449

They have always had blue blood, barring a few random artwork that incorrectly has their blood as red (which is likely just an oversight).

Or have they explicitly been stated to have red blood now in the fluff?
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>>54528381

There won't be any, primaris marines are taking over every chapter, the manlettes are being phased out.
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>>54528486
Preach!
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>>54528428
>they're the only space wolf successor in existence

That hasn't fallen to Chaos.

Yet.
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>>54527706
>not having sugar daddies out the anus
Anon the sugar daddies are going to be in the anus too.
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>>54528068
I'm hopeful they'll retcon his ascension. Willingly becoming a plaything for the Chaos Gods is totally out of character.
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>>54528494

I actually like the manlettes but this is the truth sadly.
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>>54528478
>>54528483

>This is, at its heart, a war story after all. The tooled-up battlesuits of the Farsight Enclaves, coloured the deep red of T’au blood in respect to those who died on Arkunasha****

Depends, are Phil Kelly and BL canon?
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/28/farsight-the-author-speaks/
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>>54527954
G E N K I
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>>54527807
>Which army do you play?
Rouge trader: CSM / Dark angels
2nd edition CSM / Dark angels / Eldar / (used blood angel dex for world eaters because chaos dex was shit)
3rd editoin CSM dropped (they were shit) / Dark angels, / nids / eldar / IG
4th .. stopped playing CSM my true love were shit.
6th .. picked the game back up .. CSM were still shit. played some dark angels .. found out they were shit. played some eldar and got sick of the mega new codex wins every fight shit.

7th quit at the start.. din't feel like playing an unbalanced piece of shit game. went to play warmachine ..

8th. CSM .. and hoping they don't get codex fucked in the ass or it's back to warmachine for me.
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Ive been painting orks for 14 hours and im still not even half done with basecoats on my 120 boyz and 40 tankbustas
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>>54528528
>phil kelly
THERES THE FUCKING PROBLEM
FUCKING KELLY THE HACKSHIT
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Are Renegades units more effective as troops for a chaos detatchment than normal cultists? I plan to use them for meatshields for a force of elite Marines and Termies while supplying tanks and Wyverns.
Point is I need troops for a brigade detatchment, preferably some that will help keep it around 2000 points.
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>>54528537
Invest in an airbrush. I don't basecoat without one.
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>>54527914
>Boyz are overpriced as fuck as it is
Last edition this was true

Now it's extremely far from the truth. Boyz are the most efficient offensive CC unit in the game, even more so than Genestealers against many targets.
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>>54528537
just cheat anon
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNFrDcT9JIU
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>>54527792
Hell yeah! Do it!
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>>54528173
Yes.
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>>54527589
Get gud at deployment and bring screening units.
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>>54528548
>Phil 'Saint of the Xenos' Kelly
>Not based

Lmao feel free to let Cruddace make your Tyranid codex then if hate Philly so much
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>>54528562

>Boyz are the most efficient offensive CC unit in the game, even more so than Genestealers against many targets.

doubt
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>>54528503
>All this sucking and fucking to buy tyranids.
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>>54527624
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>>54528562
>tfw I field all shoota boyz

Bad Moonz fer loif.
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>>54528597
Fucking this. Phil Kelly is one of the only people still working at GW that I trust. I wouldn't expect some unashamed taufaggot to understand that though.
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>>54528618

Thanks but no thanks.
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>>54528621

My blood red T'au like Phil Kelly too, and Phil likes us back.
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>>54528317
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>>54528381

There are two Ultramarine Primaris Chapters that are to be based in Greater Ultramar: Avenging Sons and Praetors of Ultramar.

If GW continues the Ultratrain, they'll probably be elaborated on.

And yes, the Avenging Sons are a Primaris Chapter created during the Ultima Founding.

Yes, they are also an existing Chapter.

They haven't actually explained that. It's not uncommon for new Chapters to take over the colors and sigils of the dead, though.
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>>54528376
>80 poxwalkers turned out to be less bullshit to assemble than I thought
I did 40.

yea the pleauge marines were more of a pain in the ass to assemble and paint than the pox walkers
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>>54528607
Are you fucking retarded? They have a Genestealer profile plus pistols, for half the points, and re-roll charges, just without the Rending.

Pro tip: Getting twice as many attacks per point generally results in more failed saves than a -1 AP.
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>>54528665
>not supporting chaos during fate of konor
>not crushing ultramarines.
>not shrekking ultramar.
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>>54528483
Phil Said something about Blue blood looking silly on the models so it changed to red.
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>>54527706
> all the sex
I'm sure the sex from 50 to 60 year old fat men is pretty horrible senpai
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>>54527792

I probably shoudl repaint my csm army .. rogue trader baby (with new deathguard stuff..)
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>>54527498
Post crappy positions to be in
Pic related; after plinking off a wound with his Serpenta, my Dragoon got obliterated in the Overwatch. I like to think he shot the grey knight in his stupid baby carrier, and the suits machine spirit took over.
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>>54528694

Hey that's 40k Ultramar.

Fucking wreck it all you want.

30k/41k Ultramar is more interesting anyway.
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Ok, where are my fellow archons tonight. Need some advice on what else to get. My current plan is:

-Deldar SC
-Scourges
-Venom

What else should I get to bring me up to a good point level? Bomber? Clown car (venom + trueborn w/ blasters)?
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>>54528613
Do you even collect Nids bro? It's like one of the core fundamental
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>>54527936
Eldar were OP in every single edition of the game ever printed except for a brief window in 5th.

You didn't miss a "day in the sun", instead you are finally allowed to actually bring your army to stores and play people more than once before they tell you to fuck off.
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>>54528717
Hey it pays.
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>>54528694
>Not just fighting both sides
>Not livin' da ork loif
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>>54528744
>Eldar were OP in every single edition of the game ever printed except for a brief window in 5th.

are you high or some shit? Or do you just like to talk out of that anus on your face?
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>>54528381
I considering doing my Primarines up as those rift stalkers from the rule book. Maybe there will be more on them in the codex.
I like Raven guard but don't want to paint too much black....white should be easier heh...heh :-/
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Can I put my datasmith in a separate detachment from the kastelans he'll be babysitting, or do they have to be together?
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>>54528762
So how new are you exactly? Are you old enough to be posting here in your country?
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>>54528646
>humans and aliens have been shown to coexist quite happily
>imperium flips its shit every time
Greater good wouldn't do that.
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>>54528734
Clown car all the way mah nigga
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>>54528791
the Etherals do not like the mixing of the castes and they would ban interracial sex.
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>>54528791
>>humans and aliens have been shown to coexist quite happily
Only because the tau are naive retards who still have no idea what chaos actually is, and still lack any understanding of the scale of the galaxy and the aars that take place within it
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>>54528722

wouldn't help much considering the pilot has 2W
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>>54528734
>why not both

My 1000pt list is usually

>Succubus
>Warriors in Raider
>Brides in Raider
>Trueborn in Venom
>Reavers
>Voidraven

I have a blast with it
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>>54528762
>>54528787
>eldarfag has been FURIOUSLY typing for 5 minutes and counting now to defend his knife ear WAACfaggotry
Kek
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>>54528694
Konor is worthless. Once one side has finished drowning the other in blood and mud just cleanse it with atomic fire and be done with it.
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>>54528722

It didn't end well for them.
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Does anyone know where in the rules it says you can only use a strategem once per phase? I know it's a rule but I'm trying to find it but don't see it anywhere.
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>>54528906
Matched play
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>>54527498
Does anyone have the picture of the repulsor, but with more guns shopped onto it?
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>>54527754
I think with more characterization and work they could be OK. from a model standpoint I think the modelers have done a pretty nice job of things, and I'm looking forward to the multi-part kits for the level of detail on them and they look like fun to paint.
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>>54527954
>>54528532
Go back to /m/.
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>>54528881
Worked for Krieg.
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>>54528921
Anon..
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Is there any part of the rulebook that definitively states that the index/codex rules override the rulebook rules? Every other edition I've found it written clearly.
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How do you guys kill Knights

T8, 24 wounds is a lot of dakka, and the overwatch potential on them makes me leery of any sort of deep strike charging shenanigans
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>>54528960
a combination of 30 blasters and darklances
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>>54528960
Wraithknights silly goose!
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>>54528960

Haven't played against Knights yet, no one in my area has any Except me. My plan for it at this point is to throw Penitent engines at them and pray.
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>>54528960
40 tankbustaz
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>>54528915
Still can't find it. It's not on the strategems page.
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>>54528903
B-but the Omnissiah protects..
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>>54528998
pg 215.
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>>54527754
Depends on the unit.

I love the Intercessors to death. Almost everything about them is perfect with just a bit of gothic flavor added back with extra purity seals and shit from the Grey Knights bitz box.

Hellblasters and Lieutenants, same thing. All the same model pretty much.

The Captain is pretty cool too, although I'm iffy about the Gravis one.

The Librarian I am okay with. Not amazed but not bad either.

The Chaplain is fucking godly. Best Marine model in ages.

Apothecary is a bretty cool guy, I really wanted his kit to come with weird creepy medicae servitors though.

Redemptor is hit and miss. Some good and some bad. I don't hate it. Could be fixed with conversions.

Aggressors have actually grown on me a lot since they were first shown. The box art is really poor angles. They look great in a different view especially with flamers.

Reivers... I dunno. I want to like them, but they need some work. The skulls are too cheesy and fake looking, not detailed like the Chaplains skull, and the skinny shins look retarded. As do the grappling guns. Everything else about them is great.

The Repulsor tank has potential but goddamn do they need to tone it down on the random missiles strapped all over the fucking thing.

The Inceptors though... oh god, the fucking Inceptors. Why, why are they so goddamn hideous. I don't know what it is. The circular jet packs attacked to the back of the head just kill me. The poses are godawful. I can't fucking stand them.
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>>54528870
>warriors in raider
I understand this
>reavers and clown car
Ok
>no scourges
You lack the best models in the range
>bloodbrides
What do those do? How many do you run?
>succubus
How does she get around? The only reason I have a venom is so my archon can go beep beep

Excuse any stupid questions. Im still learning the DE range
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>>54528960
I've been abusing the Scions now perfect drops and just deepstriking melta/plasma teams near it. So many guns and teams that it can in fact go down in a turn. Of course those teams always end up forfeit as my opponent will kill most of them on his turn.
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>>54528960
A trygon and 20 toxin stealers.
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>>54528960
Make em fight my Gork/Morkanauts.
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>>54527859
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>>54528960
Genestealers and Smites.
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>>54528960

Any army that isn't low model count.
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This thread is now officially about Women in Warhammer 40k. The Girl Gamers of the grimdark.

Who are the women playing warhammer?

What can be done to encourage more women to play 40k?

Why are there relatively few girl gamers in 40k?

How can we get more women interested in armies other than tyranids?

Pic relevant.
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>>54529025
the reivers look way better when you paint their skull makes in actual bone color
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When I say Breacher Marine, what Chapter do you think of?
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>>54529093
Maybe give the SOBs an update
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>>54529095
You got any pics?
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>>54529096

Imperial Fist
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>>54529008
>anyone who isn't a national socialist is a leftist.
you guys are the new sjws. i'm sorry anon.
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>>54529008
Go back to /pol/. I hate communists as much as the next man, but there's a time and a place, and this isn't either.
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>>54529114
No give nids an update
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>>54529119
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>>54529093
Make it not a wargame.
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>>54529096
Imperial fists
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>>54529038

>>no scourges
>You lack the best models in the range
Oh, I own them. I just haven't been using them at 1000pts. I like picking off characters with my grav talon.

>>bloodbrides
>What do those do? How many do you run?
They're elite wyches. Literally wyches +1A, which is awesome when combined with +1S drugs. I usually run 8 or 9 because see below. If I have another squad of wyches or a better place for my HQs, then I'll go to 10.

>>succubus
>How does she get around? The only reason I have a venom is so my archon can go beep beep
She goes with the bride/wyches. Same with my Archon when I run him. You don't need to go full squad with wyches, even though you lose out on 2 wych weapons.

>Excuse any stupid questions. Im still learning the DE range
It's fine.
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>>54529114
Women don't play Sisters. Women play Tyranids. Think about it. Girls don't want a faction that's just a creepy BDSM fetish for kids that went to catholic school and got beat up by nuns. They want an army of creepy yet adorable bug monsters. If you want girls to play your game give them lots of collectible critters and monsters.
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>>54529115
there was one in WIP a few days ago. I wish I saved it but it looked like he used zandri dust and ushabti bone.
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>>54529093
>women
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>>54529093
its interesting to me that there are always women in my LGS or GW store painting. But I have yet to see a single one of them play ever.
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>>54529142
100% this.

Also if you happen to find a cute girl who loves Orks, you marry her. That's what I'm doing.
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>>54529142
Oh so we need bishounen space marines huh
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I just ordered a start collecting kit for spess marines and ordered a squad of 10 tactical marines. Did I do good for the first steps of building my first army?
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>>54529093

>who are the women playing warhammer?
Only ones I've seen in person are those who get into it because their boyfriends do.

>What can be done to encourage them?
Nothing. This hobby appeals primarily to masculine traits, and only changing the hobby changes that. Changing the hobby would render it less enjoyable for us.

>Why are their few?
See above. Warhams is about meticulous bringing order from chaos, in the same way legos, lincoln logs, erector sets, and other engineering-themed toys are. It's creativity through the lens of construction. This appeals to men, not women, who are more attracted to social and cerebral things than physical, mechanical things.

>Armies other than Tyranids.
You don't

Honestly dude, find a woman and get her into you, then she will do the warhams because she does you. You can't make this hobby sexy for the vast majority of women.
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>>54529140
But I should be using 10 warriors, right?
Also, the main reason for my compulsion to use scourges (other than the awesome models) is tank fighting. I'm scared to death of things like dunecrawlers
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>>54529158
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>>54529093
>What can be done to encourage more women to play 40k?
Fundamentally change everything about the game, from the lore to the rules to the marketing. In other words there isn't anything to be done that would be worth the effort.

>Why are there relatively few girl gamers in 40k?
Because it's dude stuff. That's like asking why more men don't watch soap operas or spend ludicrous amounts of money in nail salons or buy overpriced hand cream.

>How can we get more women interested in armies other than tyranids?
Why bother?
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Why did none of you tell me about Sharpie speed painting?
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>>54528921
you can't be fucking serious
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>>54529093
for real, just don't treat them differebtly. Not as some rare breed to watched and fawned over.

they're just gamers who happen to have tits.
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>>54529192
Why do they play as Tyranids?
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So would it be funny to have a Tankbusta Nob insist that he "Krumped a 'uge vehicle, wuz duble a Deff Dreads height!" But all the other Tankbustas tell him "nah dat wuz onea dem M'nster Creatures boss"

Pic related
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>>54529228
Anon, what did you do?
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>>54529189
yes!

You can bring that and start playing in the Fate of Konor Campaign this week!
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>>54529228
N-no Anon don't!
(Post results though outta curiosity)
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>>54528957
>kys yourself
enough said
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>>54529238
You would have a point if this was 7th. It's a vehicle in 8th. Keep up.
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>>54529240

I watched a YT video about Sharpie speed painting in 5 minutes.
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>>54529093
>This thread is now officially about Women in Warhammer 40k. The Girl Gamers of the grimdark.
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>>54529228
>not figuring this shit out by yourself since day 1.
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>>54529258
What are you planning on doing? And post link.
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Is the new SM codex still not in the mega? I wanna see how muh sharks will fair.
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>>54529228
Anon this is bait.
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>>54529257
That's the stormsurge, riptide is still a monster.
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>>54529277
It's not out yet, you dip.
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>>54529252

See pic

>>54529270

Search >>>"Paint" a Space Marine in 5 Minutes
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>>54529093
>How can we get more women interested in armies other than tyranids?
why do we need to?
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>>54529277
Just find the leaks for raven guard Anon!
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>>54529008
Yes, the people who side with science and don't believe jesus is about to carry everyone to heaven are the brain damaged ones. You're clearly a winner.
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>>54529119
>Implying I'd tolerate a socialist.

Nazis are lefties too.
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>>54529284
Every index was in the mega like two weeks before actually being out, you dip.
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>>54529286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWE14aPwvhg
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>>54529270
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1hF0dwOWfM

its a good way to get an army out quickly in tabletop quality.

Its how I've been painting my army in the last month.

Hardest thing is adjusting the volume of the wash.
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>>54528720
Anon, those models are older than the average player.
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>Soak Exocrine in Totally Awesome
>Finally have all of the glue off
>Get out my Tau bits for the conversion to finally happen
>Realize I used up all my glue putting back together the Genestealers earlier
Well there goes my happiness for the night.
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>>54529288
Because we like women and want them around
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>>54529312
>Anon, those models are older than the average player.

i know.

dat feel when you have figures older than 75% of your opponents.
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>>54529194
I usually use 10 warriors, yea. Last time was actually 2 squads of 5 with blasters sharing a raider, then my trueborn had 2 blasters and 2 lances (I only own 4 blasters and 4 lances). We don't have an admech here, but at I generally have enough at 1000pts for what I've played against, which is usually rhinos and predators. Admittedly, my Voidraven is really good at putting pain into vehicles because 2d3 blaster shots. I haven't tried the lances yet, but I might do that next. The d6 damage on the lances is very noticeable, and it made a difference on my trueborn.

Now, as for the scourges, just remember that they're going to be 5 T3 models packing heavy AT weapons. They WILL get shot, and they will die, even with a 3+/6++ in cover.
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Is playing air cav a dick move for casual games? I like the idea but if no one has fun playing against an alpha strike invested list then why bother?
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>>54529320
Given the responses to that post and the photo he used it's not likely to happen anytime soon.
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>>54529320
Have something in your life other than warhammer then.
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Question, /tg/: I haven't played 40k in a long time, but with some of GW's newer releases, I have a question: if a box of minis can be built to represent two different army choices, and the differentiation between them lies primarily in weapons and minor aesthetic features (e.g. alternate heads like the Skitarii Vanguard/Ranger box, or alternate haloes in the Electro-Priest box), are you allowed to arm a unit with the weapons of one choice, and give them the aesthetic parts from the other choice?

For instance, could I create a unit of Skitarii Vanguard that has the Vanguard's guns, and the Ranger's hooded heads, rather than the Vanguard's helmeted heads?
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>>54529322
Oh yes, that explains why every tech company of any relevance in America was both founded by and run by them and scientists identify as left leaning like 8-2 while virtually all of academia is left leaning. Y'know, because they don't like science while the dudes pushing to have evolution taken out of schoolbooks are all about it.

Go back to whining about brown people, you're not cut out for this, kid.
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>>54529349
technically no, but most people don't care because the vanguard heads look stupid

well, technically... not really "no" because people run counts-as models or conversions all the time. as long as it's clear to your opponent what the unit is then it's okay
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>40kg becomes politics shitposting again
Can't you guys find somewhere else to do this?
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>>54529380
holy shit what the fuck is this /pol/ babble get the fuck out jesus christ this isn't your board
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>>54529093
This hobby is aimed at white men and that's the majority who will like it forever. It's even rare for trannies to play it.
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>>54529376

The non-sergeant equivalent helmets are fucking rad though

Sallets are awesome
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Can anyone give me a reason I shouldn't paint my chadmarines bright orange?

Pic very related.
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>>54529142
Women play Dark Eldar
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>>54529335
Yeah but those ones are just retarded WITHOUT an excuse.

>>54529358
Yeah, no. The original vax/autism study author is a deep conservative at this point that plays the midwest speakership circuit for money.
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>>54529411
No reason, really.
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Stop replying to retarded /pol/fags.

They will eventually be banned and the tumor will go away.
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>>54529411
It looks like shit?
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>>54529414
My wife plays DEldar and Space Wolves.
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Are 2 Leviathans too much for 2000pts?
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>>54529410
>The actual hard sciences are not dominated by leftists.

Except they really really are. Math, genetics, physics, etc. For fucks sake basically every well known astrophysicist in the country has come out as virulently anti conservative, let alone leftist.

>If leftists actually believed in evolution, they wouldn't deny gender and racial differences are real.

That's not an evolutionary argument, that's a molecular and cellular biology one. You fucking fraud. Go back to flipping burgers.
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>>54529411
Pleas do it makes me happy.
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>>54529394
I am not from /pol/ good sir, I hail from the proud nation of Kekistan and am highly offended by you conflating me with those barbarians.

But in all seriousness /pol/ might provide a better political education than most political science courses offered in American universities. Still not a good education, but at least it's mostly just shitposting and memes instead of Marxist indoctrination.
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>>54528921
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We were doing so well. Who the fuck started this pol shit?

>>54529411
Dew it
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>>54529414
Woman play nids. Alpha males play Dark eldar.
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>>54529228
Because the tips blunt after a week or so.

You could easily use them on Knights and Titans though, but small minis you have to mash the tip in to get into crevices.
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>>54529449
>Leftists confirmed for being mentally retarded.

Confirmed for having no actual higher education and probably working as a pair of hands tilling a cash register between smoke breaks.

>Hard science is dominated by the right at colleges and most tech firms.

Wow, if you ACTUALLY believe that you must live so far down in the middle of nowhere. I'm amazed you can even be posting here. How slow is your fucking internet?
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>>54527498
So how many points is that after wargear?
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So if I want to deep strike and mulch up not very well armored dudes, I use lightning claw assault terminators.

If want to deep strike and mulch up heavy armored and vehicles, I use thunder hammer terminators

If I want to deep strike, shoot up little dudes and then smash dudes, I use normal terminators

What niche do vanguard veterans have then, deep striking and then assaulting flyers? Not deep striking?

Having a hard time figuring out what to do with this box of vanguard vets
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>>54529411
there aren't really any orange base paints. it would be incredibly annoying to paint.
>>54529468
some dude replied to a post from an old thread that was complaining about poltards at his game store.
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>>54529332
Would you say the warriors are not effective when you split them, essentially losing a splinter cannon for a blaster? Also, since you already have a void raven, why bother with the two lances, especially since you'll also have (probably) a heat lance on a reaver? Just go with 4 blasters.
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>>54529459
Because nothing about Pol resembles indoctrination right?
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>>54529494
Pardon that first sentence. I meant MORE effective*
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Hey there, /tg/. Simple question for you: What space marine tank, fluff-wise, would you say is the best anti-chaos space marine option? I've recently inherited a Techmarine from a friend of mine, and I'm wanting to use him to augment my Sisters of Battle army, but I want something thematic and also something that I couldn't just take an Exorcist to do.
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>>54529477
>What fantasy world do you live in?
It's called earth, it's not much of a fantasy with people like you in it.

>No, it really, Really isn't.

Oh yes, I forgot that we were pulling up fossils and gene sequencing old ass ferns to prove women have -4str.
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>>54529485
They move fast. I think you'd use them to jump from cover to cover and to assault units entrenched in buildings and second and higher levels of cover more easily than slow ass terminators can.
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>>54529320
right.

But why does that mean we need to stop them playing nids.


But part of your problem is you want them to game because you want to have women around, not because you want more gsmer sto game with.
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>stupid, unwashed, autistic cumskin neckbeards chose 40k as their hobby because the imperium is a fascist shithole and it appeals to their insecurities and small dicks
>too stupid, unwashed, and autistic to realize GW is poking fun at dumb fascist nations by making the Imperium a permanent shithole and horrible place to live with no real future for humanity

really makes you think
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>>54529500
that's like saying tg indoctrinates you into hating manlet marines and blueberry space communists
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>>54529485
Mulching squads that have run away after the first squad's gone. When Terminators drop, they have a hard charge to make (Possible, mind, but hard) and then are slow thereafter. Vanguard Vets can catch squads that decide they don't want to be in melee with you and give them no choice in the matter.
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>>54529505
Soft sciences like earth and atmospheric sciences? Because, fuck climate change ya know. It's actually good ex dee
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Riddle me this why do leftards have such a interest in a rightwing game as 40k?
Do they get goosebumps painting aquilas and totenkompfs..
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>>54529505

t. stupid, unwashed and uneducated redneck trash

I bet you buy chinacasts, you dumb trailor trash
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>>54529505
>confirmed for not going to uni, hard science is filled with predominately republicans.

Uhhuh. I'm sure your community college econ degree was full of conservatives. I really do believe you.

>if you want to see liberal "scientist" you're going to have to look at the soft sciences.

Yes, like quantum physics. Or genetics. Or any of the ones that require a lot of going to actual school. Can you name ONE respectable conservative physicist?
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>>54529505
>>54529479
Fuck off /pol/ you radical twats
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>>54529500
Not really, no. It's far too scattershot and any ideas presented there are just the ramblings of some anonymous asshole on the internet. Anyone who could be indoctrinated by that could be indoctrinated by any fucking set of ideas they happened to stumble across, in fact such a person would probably already be heavily indoctrinated into either a puritanical branch of Christianity or Feminism.
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>>54529547
it's almost like the entire setting is and always has been satire

are you one of the people that thought the colbert report was agreeing with you?
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>>54529510

>Oh yes, I forgot that we were pulling up fossils and gene sequencing old ass ferns to prove women have -4str.

Do you actually not understand why our understanding of evolution makes racial and gender equality impossible?
Is this just shitposting?
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>>54529096
Imperial fists.
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>All this /pol/ shitposting
>people reply to it and fan the flames

Anyway has any of the leaks indicated when we should be expecting to see new Death Guard stuff?
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>>54529547
>Riddle me this why do leftards have such a interest in a rightwing game as 40k?

Remind me, why is 40k a rightwing game? Is it the disintegrating empire run by the hyper religious that hasn't actually accomplished anything in thousands of years while fighting everything and itself daily?

Because yeah, that doesn't sound like much of an idea but it does sound pretty conservative.

I like da orks ya git.
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>>54529556

epic argument, my sub 50 IQ friend
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>>54529583
probably mid-late august. SM releases are late july-early august at the current rate
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>>54529507
Bumping this to get it heard among the politics.
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>>54529524
>Tfw Iron Warriors and Conservative as fuck
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>>54529507
The new Primaris repulsorâ„¢ kills iron warriors without even shooting in the new novel.
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>>54529566
Its not satire. Even so if it was why do you have such a fascination with it?
And i don't give a fuck about american hack comedians.
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>>54529604
there is a chart oin the op that indicates what weapons are best used against meq (among other things)
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>>54529598
Do we know anything more about the Vindicators? I need to know if my trio are seeing play, and the new stratagem just isn't enough yet.
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>Pre-tax profit jumped by 126 per cent to £38.4 million in the year to May 28, more than double the £16.9m recorded the previous year.
>Meanwhile, full-year revenue soared by 34 per cent to 158 million, but due to the weakened sterling and three-quarters of its sales coming from overseas, on a constant currency basis revenue grew by 21 per cent to 143.3 million.
>Games Workshop’s annual results came with the announcement that non-executive chairman Toby Kirby would retire from his role after the annual general meeting in September.
based rountree btfos kirby
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>>54529620
I was more asking about fluff.
>>54529611
Pretty sure that's a transport, isn't it? I'm looking for something I can take as a Heavy Support to take a Spearhead; all my HQ slots are currently in use otherwise.
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>>54529586
Its not disintegrating anymore. We have cawl tech and Guiliman and uber marines. We progressive now in the classical sense.

Anyway why the fuck do you leftards keep saying the imperium is bad because of the imperium?
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>>54529610
idiots don't understand that the 40k universe at least on the imperial side is basically conservative heaven ..

REMOVE KEB.. Xenos!
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>>54529599

majority of 40k players in the US don't give a fuck about politics, and certainly don't give a fuck about orange retards in suits and save autistic green frog pictures on their hard drives

most of us just like to play nerd hobbies and aren't aggressively retarded fucknuts who want a white ethnostate
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>>54529621
for C:SM vindies? We know everything, already.

>>54529637
what do you mean fluff wise? everything in the codex has at one time or another, been used to kill traitors
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>>54529563
Pol resembles a lot of forms of indoctrination. It's just constant bombardment with passive social pressures and repetitious restatement of ideas without actual exploration of any of them. It's pretty much exactly how a cult works, they don't just wave their hand and convince you. It's a process that takes a long time, they wear you down and because you naturally want to fit in with the crowd you become convinced.

>>54529573
>Do you actually not understand why our understanding of evolution makes racial and gender equality impossible?
Is this just shitposting?

Significant ethnic hereditary traits can happen over a span of as little as one thousand years. Nothing in the fossil record shows a species with our birth rates and longevity exhibiting meaningful differences due to evolutionary pressures in that period of time. Evolution EXPLICITLY shows that ethnic racism is fucking nonsense. It's why actual evolutionary biologists think you're fucking retarded.

They write a lot of books about it.. I suggest you read one at some point.
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>>54529512
>>54529539

So in this case do you guys not deep strike your vanguards? I guess it makes sense given how much more squishy the vanguards are compared to terminators.

If you aren't doing the deep strike -> charging thing then how would you guys kit out your vanguards? If you're just doing clean up then bare bones chainsword + bolt pistol seems adequate though pretty dull.
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Reminder to people thinking 40k glorifies fascism.


It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuriesThe Emperorhas sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods, and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Imperium for whoma thousand souls are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die.

Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, theSpace Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: theImperial Guardand countless planetary defence forces, the ever vigilantInquisitionand the tech-priests of theAdeptus Mechanicusto name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from aliens, heretics, mutants - andworse.

To be a man in such times is to beone amongst untold billions. It is to live inthe cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable.These are the tales of those times.Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in thegrim darkfuturethere is only war. There isno peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, andthe laughter of thirsting gods.
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Can someone help me with my Harlequins list? Going for battleforged, battalion detachment.

>HQ:
x3 Shadowseers (one embarked on Starweaver)
>Elites:
x2 Death Jester
x1 Solitaire
>Troops
x2 Troupe (11 each)
x1 Troupe (5, embarked on Starweaver)
>Fast Attack
x3 Skyweavers (2 each)
>Dedicated Transport
x1 Starweaver

All this comes out to 1470 points, all base points value (I've included default wargear). Do I add more stuff, or do I just spend the remaining 530 points on kitting the shit out of them all?
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>>54527584
>female tau
pic related relevant
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>>54529524
Gtfo tau empire faggot! You're a traitor to humanity
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>>54529653

>conservative heaven
>absolute shithole with horrible living standards and unnecessary racism that bites them in the ass constantly

PLEASE be bait. Please. Nobody can be this mindnumbingly retarded. You're KKK levels of intelligent.
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>>54529654
That sure is a lot of projecting for someone who supposedly doesn't care about politics
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>>54529669
Deep strike the vanguards, sure, but also charge. Give them jump packs so they're useful for catching and killing things in more turns than the one they drop.

>>54529664
No point changes? Lame.
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>>54529670
How is this the fault of the Imperium. Emps got betrayed by radical traitors, the galaxy is full of nasty stuff and insurgent cultists are everywhere.
If anything its a criticism of radicals trying to destabilise society.
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>>54529664
I'm sure it's all been used to kill traitors, I was wondering if there was any specific option that is used more often than others. I guess I'll just go with predators.
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>>54529669
Honestly? No idea. I don't run them. But if I had to figure out how I'd do it I'd at least make sure there's a shitload of terrain and LoS block on the board so that you can actually move around from cover to cover without just fucking dying.

DS-> charge is a gamble for most units anyway; it's going to fail more than 2/3 of the time. It's really only powerful on stuff that has some rule or psychic power that lets you move after the end of the movement phase, and there's not a lot that does that.
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>>54529679
You don't know anything about 40k. Go away.
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>>54529695
Can you fuck off. The imperium loves abhumans.
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>>54529679
>>absolute shithole with horrible living standards

outing yourself as not reading the lore or relying on blueberry propaganda.

legit question, are you a tau player?
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>>54529666

>Significant ethnic hereditary traits can happen over a span of as little as one thousand years. Nothing in the fossil record shows a species with our birth rates and longevity exhibiting meaningful differences due to evolutionary pressures in that period of time. Evolution EXPLICITLY shows that ethnic racism is fucking nonsense.

Different human races were subject to different evolutionary pressures in isolation to each other for tens of thousands of years.
The chance of those races remaining the same after that time is zero.
And we know from studies of medieval era jews that human IQ can change by at least one third of a point per generation.
Possibly more in different circumstances.

>It's why actual evolutionary biologists think you're fucking retarded.
Actually, they agree with me.

>They write a lot of books about it.. I suggest you read one at some point.
t. person who has never read anything on the subject
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>>54529694
This is how low the bar is for conservative governance. The games lore explicitly states that the Imperium is incompetent, bureaucratic, wasteful, cruel, and corrupt. It's the entire point, its the GRIM DARKNESS of the far future.
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>>54529730
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>>54529599
>its almost universally considered a right wing game
it's really not.
its not considered to have any leaning.
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>>54529695
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>>54529158
Good job anon I'm marrying mine too though she's more of a Dark Eldar girl

>>54529234
pretty much this
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>>54529666
Evolution is visible between seasons. Evolution is always happening please by antievolution somewhere else. Modern humans have existed longer than a thousand years you halfwit teenager.
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>>54529599
Yeah, the nerds who first created Rogue Trade and 40k were Thatcher supporters to a man. You got us.
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>>54529731
im not that anon but an anon who likes the imperium and the imperium is all about being a shithole with horrible living standards for majority of humans. 40k isn't supposed to be all happy sunshine it's an awful worst case future.
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>>54529599
Who are you?
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>>54529738
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>54529695
Read the lore you normie you know nothing about the Imperium.
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>>54529494
>>54529506

>Would you say the warriors are MORE effective when you split them, essentially losing a splinter cannon for a blaster
I mostly did it because I was planning on running a battalion, but honestly, I don't think I'm taking cannons anymore. Blaster+Lance is a very solid loadout now. I really underestimated the d6 damage vs the d3 and you only get -1hit. I might run the splinter boat if I need the blasters/lances somewhere else.

>Also, since you already have a void raven, why bother with the two lances

Originally it was because I only have a limited number of blasters and lances and needed to give the trueborn more weapons. However, the damage on the lance is strong, and I'm going to start putting them places.

>heat lance on a Reaver
No. Heats are garbage. They're inferior to blasters in almost every way because anything they want to shoot at will generally have T7+, which means it's wounding on 5s vs the 3s for the blaster. Likewise, the blaster is wounding on 2s against T4, which leaves the advantage at T5 and T9-11 where both the heat and blaster are wounding on the same number, which gives the d6 heat damage the advantage.

However, there is an argument to the heat being better at killing characters because of the d6 damage, so there's that. I'm still experimenting.
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>>54529736
>Different human races were subject to different evolutionary pressures in isolation to each other for tens of thousands of years.

Which is enough time for skin color to change. Geneticists explicitly say you are wrong about pretty much everything else.

>The chance of those races remaining the same after that time is zero.

Yeah that's true of two populations of the same race existing apart from eachother. The problem is that the actual differences are almost non existent and the two races are genetically identical. It takes hundreds of thousands of years for actual speciation to occur.

>And we know from studies of medieval era jews that human IQ can change by at least one third of a point per generation.

No, we really don't, because whatever study you are talking about sounds fucking ludicrous. How, exactly, are you measuring the yearly IQ of medieval jews? Also, IQ can change a whole hell of a lot more per generation than a third of a fucking point. That's not what evolution is you mong.

>Actually, they agree with me.

Except no, they really, really don't. Please, cite a single fucking peer reviewed academic paper.

>t. person who has never read anything on the subject

Ok "medieval jew science" guy.
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>>54529747
Except you know those articles slamming it as rightwing.
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>>54529142
I like Imperial Guard.
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>>54529780
just like in modern life, the imperium is a spectrum. You can choose to focus on the poor worlds or the rich worlds.
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>>54529654
>most of us just like to play nerd hobbies and aren't aggressively retarded fucknuts who want a white ethnostate
I'm curious, for the sake of playing devil's advocate, why that is such a horrible thing. I never hear Mexico criticized for being an ethnostate, in fact they've even got it baked right into their constitution that any law which would artificially change the racial makeup of the country is unconstitutional. In fact as far as I can remember no ethnostate really gets criticized from it, barring Japan every now and then, except when it's a predominately white country everyone loses their fucking shit.

Obviously it's unworkable in the US as it's borders currently stand because outside of certain regions whites don't actually have a huge majority, but this same phenomena applies whenever a mostly homogeneous European country raises issue with letting in droves of foreigners that will significantly alter their demographics.
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>>54529772
>Evolution is visible between seasons.

What.
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>>54529801
Those are articles are written by retards, which means that the opposite is proibably true.
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>>54529717
>>54529731

>stupid fucks don't know the basics of the settings

Imperium is a shithole. Your delusion doesn't change that. Kill yourselves.
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Blessed is the mind too small for doubt
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>>54529817
You know why Charles Darwin traveled to the galapogos island? To document evolution. Galapagos finches are the entry level case study in evolution.
Stupid motherfucking retards that pretend to understand evolution know nothing about it.
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>>54529820
seems fine to me
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>>54529800

>Which is enough time for skin color to change. Geneticists explicitly say you are wrong about pretty much everything else.

>>species can't change anything other than skin pigmentation over tens of thousands of years.
Pic related, I guess all the other objectively observable physical differences are just right wing lies.
I won't allow you to communicate with me anymore.
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>>54529808
That is a question to be debated on a board that isn't about tabletop RPGS and plastic armymen games.
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>>54529731
Life in the Imperium means living under the cruellest and most bloody regime imaginable. It's emblazed on the first page of every 40k novel. You're not winning this one.
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>>54529808
>I'm curious, for the sake of playing devil's advocate, why that is such a horrible thing. I never hear Mexico criticized for being an ethnostate, in fact they've even got it baked right into their constitution that any law which would artificially change the racial makeup of the country is unconstitutional. In fact as far as I can remember no ethnostate really gets criticized from it, barring Japan every now and then, except when it's a predominately white country everyone loses their fucking shit.

Pretty sure Israel, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and a dozen other countries with dinged for that routinely. China keeps north korea in a fucking slow globe to keep its border fully Han and it's almost caused a nuclear war. The indo pakistanti conflict is entirely ethnic and they catch shit for it constantly.

Can you even state what line of Mexicos constitution that is from? Does it even fucking exist?
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>>54529804

You're also not a girl
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>>54529808
Now how do you propose the US goes about establishing said white ethnostate? Would an American like me who is not white be booted out just because of race?
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>>54529854
maybe try not being a heretic
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>>54529861
Oh, that's helpful to know.
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>>54529845
>white man smiling
Delet im shaking literally.
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>>54529842
DARWIN DIDN'T WRITE DARWINS FINCHES AND THAT STUDY WAS OVER 40 FUCKING YEARS NOT A SEASON.
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>>54529820
If you would learn to read you would see that the Imperium varies depending on the world that you are on.
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>>54529862
I don't think your dumbass is talking about 40k anymore.
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>place order a while back for some plastic classic marines through a retailer
>didn't arrive on time
>check status, order delayed for reasons unspecified, until a date unspecified
>hasn't even been mailed out yet so not an issue with the carrier
>they haven't billed me yet at least (law forbids them from doing so until the products are shipped)
I kind of want to cancel the order but I really just want plastic space men in a vain attempt to fill the void in my life
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>>54529854
>Life in the Imperium means living under the cruellest and most bloody regime imaginable

doubtful, remember there is always worse.
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>>54529808

Mexico is not an ethnostate. There are no ethnostates anymore because no country has 100% of their populace as a single ethnicity. You don't even know basic geography, to start.

Second, to achieve an ethnostate, you -will- have to displace millions of people, their families, their children, and forcibly move them to another location. This has never been done without bloodshed. So you, the retard asking why an ethnostate is bad, is implicitly thinking it's fine for bloodshed to happen on a mass scale, because your cumskin snowflake heart can't take the sight of a brown person.

You are dumb as shit.
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>>54529867
It's the preface to literally every book about the Imperium, including books about the most loyal and stalwart of Imperial Guard and Space Marines.
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>>54529885
fucking 4chanx ate my image
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>>54529847
>Pic related, I guess all the other objectively observable physical differences are just right wing lies.
I won't allow you to communicate with me anymore.

Observable differences like.. Hair? Small differences in cartilaginous structures? Things that are observably different within a single 'race'? Go ahead, throw the book away, you've never read one in the first place.
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>>54528791
>happy slave is a willing slave
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>>54529801
you can find articles spouting pretty much any opinion on the Internet.

Doesn't mean they're universal or widespread opinions.
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>>54529862
If you actually read my post you would realize I already addressed that point.
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>>54529805
but in the imperium most worlds are practicing horrible shit. Hell admech love to make slaves out of humans.
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>>54529883
touche
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>>54529056
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>>54529893
>There are no ethnostates anymore because no country has 100% of their populace as a single ethnicity.
Can you name a country at any point in history that was 100% of a single ethnicity?
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>>54529910
good for the admech humans, bad for the slave humans.

its all a matter of perspective.
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>>54529820
The Imperium is claimed to be a shithole, but literally every planet we've seen that's not actively fucked up by external (non-imperium) forces is doing fine to great.

It may be the writers not putting their money where is their mouth, but it's the truth of th ematter.
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>>54529795
You can't run a lance in a unit of 5
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>>54529880
>darwin didnt write darwins finches
I said darwin travelled there to document the life.
Galapagos finches show beak shape changes bewteen seasons. They either get longer or shorter depending on food sources.
This is evo bio 101 leftard.
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>>54529910
I demand that you pull out adminstratum statistics to prove your claim!
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>>54529937
>This is evo bio 101 leftard.
Cite a single evolutionary biology textbook that describes seasonal changes as evolution.
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>>54529930
Post your models right now you huge fag.
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>>54529893
>Mexico is not an ethnostate. There are no ethnostates anymore because no country has 100% of their populace as a single ethnicity.

Ethnicities are a social construct with no basis in actual genetics. Borders are arbitrary differentiations between political groups that vastly post-date any sort of hereditary morphology due to genetic isolation.

"Ethnicities" are just a way to group people along easily visually identifiable political boundaries. There is no white race, caucasian or light skinned people come from two continents with wholly different population histories, asians come from 3. Latinos come from 4.

Anyone talking about creating an ethnostate is a fucking retard with no idea what an ethnicity actually is.
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>>54529858
You just missed the point entirely. Israel isn't criticized from being too Israeli, they're criticized for occupying land that many people perceive as stolen. Every other nation you mentioned is some variant of this (barring possibly Russia), none of those are criticizes of their status as an ethnostate but things tangentially related to it.

I'm pretty sure no one is unironically calling for Saudi Arabia to let in a bunch of whiteys because they aren't diverse enough, nor should they because that's fucking retarded. But that works both ways, demanding that of a white country is equally retarded unless you're judging nations differently based on their race, which would be racist.
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>>54529956
Why are you changing the subject?
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>>54528173
Yes, mentioned in several Chaos codexes as well as the Lost and the Damned codex from the 13th Black Crusade.

Traitor General from the Gaunts Ghost series covers it in amazing detail, as the story centres on an IG team getting dropped onto the planet, meeting up with the Imperial underground and killing a traitor general before he can train an up-and-coming force called the Sons of Sek.

Neat things on a Chaos-held planet include;
>citizens are forced to scrawl random symbols on walls in paint, if anyone draws anything even close to resembling a mark or rune of Chaos, they're declared worthy of reeducation and induction
>citizens forced to spend work hours not working smashing Imperial statues, plaques, memorials and the like with sledgehammers
>everyone gets a branded worm implanted into their arms, so that they can be tracked at all times
>Glyfs, floating security beacons that resemble Chaotic symbols that alert nearby Chaos forces to undesirables
>Wirewolves, carved, metal, featureless puppets that hang from trees and come to life to fuck shit up if the citizenry is misbehaving
>using warp-beasts to consume part of a worlds resources and shit them out through the warp onto another Chaos-held world that needs them
>Chaos nobles

And now I wanna re-read that and Blood Pact.
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>>54529901
That is way better than the same photo on a forge world where all the humans in the hallway have their lower jaws removed. Or the same photo on an imperial ship where they all have giant collars and are pulling a missile.
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>>54529935

for every garden world you see in a book, there's a 1000 forgeworlds or hiveworlds where the average citizen's life is working 12 hours in a factory his entire life, no retirement, so he can get a small metal box as shelter for him and his family

not even going to begin with the law, where you can get fucked over by an arbites because your ancestor 300 years ago broke the law

it is an absolute shithole and you would hate it within a year of living there, ironically

you wouldn't be a badass space marine, you'd be some random fuckwit in a hiveworld barely making by while trying to elude thieves and other scum, or an unfortunate person shipped off to some Tyranid-infested world to get shredded apart as fodder as a guardsman
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>>54529930
Hawaii maybe? You won't find any actual countries, countries are a new thing.
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>>54529959
it's not their land it belongs to the jeuden.
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>>54529967
That was during the "transition period." In Blood Pact, it's shown that Chaos actually grinds the life out of the world entirely: if there had been no liberation, it would have become a dead world or demon world within another ten or fifteen years.
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>>54529971
thats the whole stick for the dark eldar. no matter how shitty your home is, the dark eldar will take you to a worse place.
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>>54529978
You make a lot of claims, but again, every time we have directly seen the state of the imperium and those who live there rather than hearing about it from afar, it's been consistent. It sounds overmuch like a boogeyman being used to scare citizens into compliance more than an actual standard of living.
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Autarch Skyrunner
- Twin Shuriken Catapults
- Laser Lance
- Forceshield
- Fusion Gun


Warlock
- Witchblade


8 Storm Guardians
- 2 Fusion Guns


7 Howling Banshees
- 6 Power Swords
- 1 Triskele


5 Windriders
- 5 Twin Shuriken Catapults


5 Windriders
- 5 Shuriken Cannons


4 Shining Spears
- 4 Twin Shuriken Catapults
- 3 Laser Lances
- 1 Star Lances


Wraithlord
- Ghostglaive
- Bright Lance

Total: 1000 points on the dot.
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>>54529988
Is the claim here that no ethnostates have ever existed, then?
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>>54529951
Its the fucking case study we are talking about its in the fucking wiki article you are looking at.
This is why people call you leftards.
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>>54529937
>Galapagos finches show beak shape changes bewteen seasons. They either get longer or shorter depending on food sources.
This is evo bio 101 leftard.

A: No, they didn't.
B: That's not evolution since evolution requires reproduction and selection pressures and finches don't have the life cycle of gnats.

Why the fuck didn't you just use gnats? Thats the classic study for hyper compressing the time for evolution, not the fucking Finches.
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>>54529673
>No Troupe Master.

Get Embrace, Caresss and Fusion pistol for troupe. Get pistol especially for the one inside transport.

Get glaive for Skyweaver.
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>>54529978
arbites don't trouble themselves with the little people they deal with the nobles you know people with actual power.
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>>54529930
australia was mono ethnic for like 49000 years.

basically anywhere outside europe,africa and asia pre colonialism.
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Going to start on a chadmarine force. Planning on having aggressors + lt in a repulsor, a redemptor or two, and maybe a stormtalon backed up by lots of intercessors and some hellblasters.
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>>54530003
>Its the fucking case study we are talking about its in the fucking wiki article you are looking at.
Provide a citation. A source. A quote. Oh wait, you can't, because you're making shit up and claiming shit is there that isn't.
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>>54529978
>where the average citizen's life is working 12 hours in a factory his entire life, no retirement, so he can get a small metal box as shelter for him and his family
This is one of the better scenarios, really.
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>>54530021
Make sure to grab a Captain (Gravis Armour sucks, but you want to go pure chad) because rerolling 1s to hit is ridiculously good.
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>>54530003
"A long-term study carried out for more than 40 years by the Princeton University researchers Peter and Rosemary Grant has documented micro-evolutionary changes in beak size affected by El Nino/La Nina cycles in the Pacific."
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>>54529978
>working 12 hours
Only 12? The Machine God is displeased with this inefficiency.
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>>54530031
There are two versions of the Captain now. Only the Dark Imperium one is Gravis.
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>>54529675
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>>54530009
Yes they do. You're an idiot.
The short beaked finches can't reach food sources while the long beak finches can't crack nuts easily.
Depending on the seasonal food sources finches of either type will die oit leading to evolutionary change. This is evolution you antiscience halfwit. Its natural selection.
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>>54530019
>Australia was Mono-ethnic
Sort of, would you consider the say, French and Swedes to be the same ethnicity?
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>>54529993
Where is that shown in Blood Pact? BP takes place at Commissariat HQ, and I believe liberation came in The Armour of Contempt.
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>>54530054
>>54530039
>>54530026
What the heck is going on and what does it have to do with 40k
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>>54530039
>With these beaks, males are able to feed differently on their favourite cactus, the prickly pear Opuntia. Those with long beaks are able to punch holes in the cactus fruit and eat the fleshy aril pulp, which surrounds the seeds, whereas those with shorter beaks tear apart the cactus base and eat the pulp and any insect larvae and pupae (both groups eat flowers and buds). This dimorphism clearly maximises their feeding opportunities during the non-breeding season when food is scarce.

You stupid fuckers havent a clue what you are talking about as evident by your belief evolution isnt always occuring.
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>>54530080
Lets hope the next thread is better.
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>>54530050
Oh right, I forgot the other one
Well, get him and make sure to use him, then!
He's damn good, and with him and two leftenants you can have 'company' fluff already.
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>>54529978
>you wouldn't be a badass space marine

its a science fiction fantasy, of course you will be a badass space marine or rogue trader.

This is why people hate lefties, always the pessimist.
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>>54530080
theyre arguing about the evolution of subspecies of kroot
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>>54530061
I mixed them up; I had been thinking that The Armor of Contempt was the one where they had to retrieve the general. I was thinking of the liberation novel.
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>>54530050
The non-gravis one is $35, the gravis one is cheap as shit
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>>54530080
Some idiot decided to bring up politics for no reason and other idiots continue to reply to him, therefore shitting up the board

Maybe its an elaborate metaphor for the Horus Heresy
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>>54529653

>state religion
>labor camps and sterilizations
>murdering millions over bare superstition
>excommunication of loyal astartes
>having thousands of planets and its valuable assets exterminatus because a guy drew a circle with arrows
>cyberslavery
>the entire age of apostasy

wow you're right it's a perfect conservative utopia how did no one ever point this out before you are certainly a person who seems to have a good grasp on both politics and 40k

pic related an obvious nod to a conservative government
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>>54529966

>dude stop talking about 40k in the 40k general

like I said, complete cancer
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>>54530123
I'm just waiting for the faggot mod to ban me for dareth to reply to the leftie babies shitposting the board up.
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>>54530125
Communist nations did the same thing too
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>>54530121
No one asked if you were poor.
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>>54530056
broadly yes. Celts and Germans are both indo-europeam tribes.

the point was that more regions more "isolated" from eurasia and africa tended to be colonized in single distinct migration events. All the settlers were mononethnic and as such their decendants remain that way.
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>>54529996
It really depends on what you're reading. Most novels set in Hive Worlds make it clear that things look nice at the upper levels and quickly go full shit once you venture downstairs. Half of Imperial Guard novels emphasize that life is often pointlessly wasted. Anything that touches on Forge Worlds or anything run by the AdMech fully emphasizes that life as a menial is total shit.
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>>54530095
>This is why people hate lefties, always the pessimist.

oh, now I get it

you're a sperg who roleplays an epic tall aryan man so you can feel like your life has some worth

don't let me, the horrible leftist get in your way

sperg on, son
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>>54530133
If you wanted to talk about 40k, you would talk about 40k, not single out a single person in a big derail whose politics you didn't like.
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Guys, just dont reply to the fucking /pol/fag
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>>54530172
I'm feeding the troll and you can't stop me
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>>54530172

I'm off to bed soon anyway, I'm sure this retard will be back on his containment board tomorrow sperging about Hillary Clinton or some such nonsense, and us regulars can go back to discussing wargames.
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>>54530156
I just dropped $150 on Flames of War. It's not about cost, it's about value. I'm not going to support this practice of vastly overcharging for cheap single sprue characters. They should all be priced the same as the space marine commander box.
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>>54530184
>discussing wargames
whinng about cumskins with badwrong politics ruining your safe spaces*
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>>54530125
It's almost like a large majority of those things are a product of a totalitarian state and not a conservative one.
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>>54529795
So what should I buy with $200 Cad to get me started. I'm assuming $100 will be an SC. Then what? I'd rather not get 2 SC
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Iron Within, /pol/ Without
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>>54530119
Life on Gereon or Urdesh was just fine if you worshipped the ruinous powers. Those that simply served due to occupation were practically cattle, and the worlds were stripped mainly because there was an ongoing war in the sector, with Imperial Forces retaking world after world. If a frontline planet is in desperate need of water, oil, or lumber may as well warp it from some backwater civilian world that's so deep in your territory it'll be at least a couple years before Imperial forces.

Chaos is nice :^)
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>>54529936

And? I was talking about 10 man kabalite squads using blaster+lance vs blaster cannon, and trueborn don't give a shit.
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>>54527883
>Boyz
>8ppm
>The army built around cheap spamable troops should have expensive troops
Just can't accept you're gonna get Green'd?
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>>54530206
That's because some people cant comprehend that there's more than one axis on the political compass.
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>>54530228
Thanks for clarifying. Was talking warriors. Please see >>54530208
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>>54527862
>A dead 'ard boy iz more killy than a naff panzee 'umie
Sounds about right!
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>>54530238
well if they acknowledge that, they'd have to accept that nazism isn't right wing
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>>54530216
The Imperium is not communist, it's an ecclesiarchy

That should be completely fucking obvious
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>>54530238
Basically. I've seen some retards try to argue that big government systems are leftwing and small government/anarchy is rightwing. Literally what the fuck lmao

No you fuckwit, the left/right system AT BEST applies to economics. There are economic compasses that can go up to 5 dimensions. Your shitty 1 dimensional line does not accurately represent fucking anything at all.
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>>54530259
>joke
>head
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>>54530261
>my analytical framework is better because it has more dimensions
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>>54530259
No the ecclesiarchy is just one of the factions who control the Imperium, and if Robute has his way they wont be like that for long.
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>>54530261
>try to argue that big government systems are leftwing

well its rather hard to get people to pay 95% in taxes without a big government.

It's not that they are inheritly left wing, only that leftwing can only work with them.
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>>54530258
Strictly speaking national socialism is a centrist economy with a totalitarian state that pushes leftist scientific policy while holding hyper-conservatice moral values. So it's the definition of top center economics.
>>54530266
My analytical framework is better because it doesn't try to shove everything into one hole or the other. If you genuinely think that you can classify everything into muh left or muh right then you possibly have some sort of mental deficiency.
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>>54530266
>I can only comprehend 2 dimensions
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Are models impossible to assault if there's no room for the chargers to get into melee range?
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>>54530258

>dude hitler was a leftist, chill bro

holy shit, and the bread winner for most retarded post in the thread is... this massive retard
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>>54528562
>THE melee army is good at melee now
Gee, who would have thought?
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>>54530301
>melee army
>I2
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>>54530291
>national socialism is a centrist economy

which is hard for a lefty to understand, they conflate economic and liberal policy

>>54530300
hitler was a centralist and dirty socialist see above
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>>54530300
The Nazis are Nationalist SOCIALIST.
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>>54530297
no stop trying to get the thread back on track it's too late
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>>54530297
No. The charger is considered to be floating next to the target using Wobbly Model Syndrome.
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>>54527862
By making them of glass by taking away their armor and good melee options.
>Oh wait
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>>54530289
Basically. The whole flaw in that is the fact that big government and capitalism are not mutually exclusive. This is the kind of retarded thinking that ancapistanis and lolbergtards push because they don't like paying taxes.
>>54530305
>>54530307
>and dirty socialist
He was a prussian socialist which is entirely different from marxist socialism. Oswald Spengler, look him up.
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>>54530291
The left, right thing only exists because of leftists they are extremely partisan. They will label virtually anyone as their opposition under the same labels. Even buddhists.
Thats why most of them sound like absolute retards itt.
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>>54530304
>I
>A thing anymore
Have you played 8th yet?
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>>54530307

stop competing with him for the most retarded post in the thread

there's no medal to be won
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>>54530301
THE melee army is Nids more than Orks. But yes it's nice to see Slugga boyz are actually good again too.
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>melee army
>I2

For you, 54530304
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>>54530249
Missed the other one

>>54530208
I don't know CAD, but honestly, two SC is legit. I started with 2 SC, Venom, Succubus, wyches, and scourges, and just kinda went from there. Hopefully, you're getting some sort of discount, but there isn't a bad thing in the box. I don't know about more than two unless you really like Reavers. Except for scourges and the like, you'll need a transport for your units, so I'd consider that when making purchases. A box of warriors and 2 Venoms is a solid 2 units for example. Conversely, 4 boxes of scourges will get you a suite of weapons to use (I magnetize all mine because they're all cross compatible).
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>>54530307
I can call an apple an orange but that doesn't make it a banana.

Socialism =/= national socialism = modified fascism

Cmon guys. This is 11th grade shit right here
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>>54530315
>Taking 'ard Boyz
>When you can take more boyz
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>>54530307
And China is a republic and East Germany was a democracy.
>>
I want to see a janitor come in and nuke this thread in half. That always warms my heart.

Anyway, I have like 2 raiders and a squad of warriors to assemble.
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>>54530324
>melee army
>M5
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>>54530321
>don't like paying taxes
honestly, anyone who does needs to be sent to the gulaug

>>54530334
keep lying to yourself, your time will come, commie.
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>>54530357
>honestly, anyone who does needs to be sent to the gulaug
Don't like taxes? Get the fuck out of the country. You're living on the government's property faggot. Go to Somalia.
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>>54530334
Fascism =/= nazi = socialism
Fascism= state does not own all business
Nazi, socialist = state owns business.
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>>54530327
>Dumb cockroaches
>Better
I'll fuckin' deck
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>>54530366
>Get the fuck out of the country.

i'll just tax evade, tyvm. While those too dumb pay for my roads
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>>54530334
Out of curiosity, why focus wych cults? Also, I do t plan on immediately getting 1000 points. Maybe start around 600-700. Right now my original plan was sc + venom + scourges, but now I'm considering a clown car, which would take away from my anti armour power.
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>>54530372
>dumbass greenskin who is basically a pest infestation comparing another race to cockroaches
LOL
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>>54530367
>Nazi, socialist = state owns business.
Holy kek, based off the fucking timestamp your post and >>54530357 you're the fucking retarded Ancapistani molyneux fag who thinks that all socialism is the same right? So I guess now you no long consider Mussolini and Rockwell to be leftists. Fucking kek.
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>>54530382
Meant for >>54530333
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>>54530350
>Movement mattering when you can advance with a rerollable charge, or tellyport
Anon, please for me think out your responses a little more, and have a pleasant evening, I've got to go to bed.
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>>54530376
It's almost like scumbags like you are the reason ideologies like fascism and natsoc exist. To purge non-contributing elements of society that live for themselves.
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>>54530389
try again
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>>54530389
Two different posters, not ancap or a fan of molyaneux. Kys dumb autist
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Model construction question:
If i don't want my Rhino to be locked in combat, and since model is measured to base contact, is there any reason to attach these spikes to the front of my Rhino.
No more difficult terrain so i don't see a reason for dozer spikes, but i wanted another opinion
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>>54530389
Wasn't Muss also fascist? He was the OG fascist if I can recall. Hitler based hus government on Muss
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>>54530404
I'm not forcing anyone else to pay taxes, so im in the clear.

If everyone stopped paying taxes and this country devolved into madmax, i'd be fine.
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Too many to reply to. Does this post apply to (you)?

Probably
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>>54530388
>Dumbass greenskin
The only dumbasses I see are people that underestimate Orks, and then get BTFO
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>>54530334
officially they are right technicaly, they are nationalistic socialists. They are basically left + racist + like borders. They have 0 in common with what right means today, where your pro company and such. Basically nazis and communists are like 2 types of Christianity
>>
Take your politics out of here; you idiots ruin threads constantly. Left-wing, right-wing, you are all a cancer upon this board. You thrive on controversy, generalizing your ideological opponents so as to justify your blind, unending hatred.

Get out and stop ruining this threads. I just want to talk about one of my favorite universes and the game surrounding it, not be stuck in between two factions of bickering simpletons who blindly accept the false gospel of ideologues.
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>one local Chaos player
>Xenos players all have said they're going to give points to the Imperium

Not sure how exciting this campaign is going to be.
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>>54530409
You are a faggot. You may as well shave the track patterns off the bottom of the treads for that sweet, sweet 2mm height advantage when it comes to LoS.
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>>54530422
Muss was the first fascist, yep. Hitler saw Muss and turned the DAP into his own jam based on his experiences living as a third rate painter.
>>54530424
>I'm not forcing anyone else to pay taxes, so im in the clear.
Honest question, what's the difference between you and a welfare monkey? You're just leeching off of state funded programs while giving nothing in return.
>If everyone stopped paying taxes and this country devolved into madmax, i'd be fine.
Until your house is raided by niggers/mudslimes and you get raped to death with your belongings taken.
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>>54530445
No i spent an hour watching the leftwing shitposters. mod did nothing.
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>>54530445
Anon that's exactly what 40k is though!
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>>54530445
you act like we'd get quality posts if the autists stopped.
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>>54530450
Rally round that chaos player! You can both try and fuck'em up! Persuade other players to join your cause.
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By the order of the Inquisition I declare Fuck Erebus!
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>>54530431
>They have 0 in common with what right means today, where your pro company and such
You realize that prussian socialism is basically the same as what we call keynesianist capitalism today right? How the fuck do you even try to argue about economic polices you know nothing about online without feeling ashamed?
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>>54530460
I'd rather a bunch of newfags post their half assed lists than 300 posts of this /pol/ shit. It at least can lead to some actual 40k discussion.
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Unfortunately given the internets tendency to remove peoples self-restraint when it comes to posting their opinions, I doubt anything will change.

Always remember, keep your politics in your pocket, REGARDLESS of what fucking side you're on.
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>>54530455
>you and a welfare monkey
a welfare monkey expects you to pay him

I'm just here wondering when everyone else will wisen up.

>Until your house is raided by niggers/mudslimes

i honestly don't know who is worse, nazis or communists

its communists but you guys are also pretty terrible
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>>54530457
Yeah but it's badass in 40k, in real.life it's just irritating.

I don't care about the political message the original creators of the setting intended to be conveyed. I prefer to ignore politics entirely and enjoy the richness of the setting.
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>>54530431
THIS MAN HERE just ended this fight. The idea of right and left have evolved over time. In reality, a political spectrum should contain two axes, making "right and left" obsolete. Also, right can mean two things: 1 economic and 2 social
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>>54530452
>not using rt era dreads to be able to claim cover easly and point them as venerable (since they are the old pattern)

ishygddt
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>>54530467
Only way I could do that is if I ran my guard army as renegades or just say my AdMech are Dark Mechanicum and ignore the warlord keyword requirement.
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>>54530473
i could post my tities and attention whore if you'd prefer that?
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>>54530500
Yes
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>>54530500
How would that be 40k related?
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>>54530480
>a welfare monkey expects you to pay him
And you expect to use government utilities for free with no consequences.
>i honestly don't know who is worse, nazis or communists
We haven't killed 200 million people yet although if we get our way we probably will. They'll all be commies and jews though.
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>>54530514
Sisters of battle
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>>54530500
I'd prefer lists honestly but tits are better than /pol/
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>>54530469
Fuck you Erebus!
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>>54530514
draw a symbol of slaanesh on them.

anything can be 40k related if you put some effort in.
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>>54530486
>THIS MAN HERE just ended this fight.
With his nonexistent knowledge of NSDAP economic policy, yeah.
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>>54529096
Iron Hand.
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>>54530540
It's... not a trap?
>>
This thread is derailed and filling too fast. Someone make us a new one
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>>54530558
deathleaper fangirl is a trap, GSC breeder is a woman
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>>54530333
So what should I buy with $200 Cad to get me started. I'm assuming $100 will be an SC. Then what? I'd rather not get 2 SC
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>>54530558
>>54530572
>GSC breeder is a woman

or atleast his girlfriend is one.
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>>54530540
thighs too skinny 0/10 would not suck the farts from your anus
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>>54530540
Good job anon, you have a nice figure and I appreciate you saving this for a thread that was already far too gone to save.
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>>54530540
aaand that's my que to head to bed.. nothing of value was posted tonight...
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>>54530599
What are you, gay?
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>>54530609
Should have gone to bed earlier Esdese. Fuck off.
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>>54530617
>Esdese
Who is that? seriously i have no clue who that is.
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>>54530613
Its always nice to see pretty girls, but there are plenty of other places I can do so, only so many places I can talk about Dark Eldar though.
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>>54530629
Autistic tranny who derails threads with his shitty english and his slaanesh ERPing.
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>>54530585
GSC breeder is thoroughly nuts, has posed nude with her tyranids before. I wish I was at least half as cute and at least half as passionate about my Dark Angels... I need to thin my paints and my body as well.
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>not lewd camwhoring with genestealer icon gets immediately deleted
>300 /pol/ posts remain

stellar job mods
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>>54530673
There an Imgur or anything?
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>>54530489
That's the spirit! Do this and post results my man!
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>>54530683
Mods confirmed for pro /pol/ tendencies.
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>camwhores on /tg/
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Someone make a new thread
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>>54530382
I always liked the cult units more because I like the idea of a bunch of crazy gladiators putting on a show for a bunch of spectators where the war is the show.

How would the clown car take away from AA when you fill it with blasters/lances?
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>>54530715
>4chan mods lean towards the alt-right
This is truly unsurprising
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>>54530673

I've only seen the one pic I have saved of her. Didn't know she went full nudes. I don't even know where to look for that.

Still, odd that the mods removed her, and left the 300+ pol posts. I was hoping to see the thread land at like 150 posts. Shame.
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>>54530865
Its like you expect them to do their jobs or something
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>>54530715
you act like it isn't the most popular board
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>>54530913

I'm just saying there's inconsistency.
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>>54530981
>>54530981
>>54530981

new thread with whores
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new bread
>>54531003
>>54531003
>>54531003
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>>54527754
>how powerful they are in-game
I don't know really. They seem solid.
>sculpts
Noice except I hate those skull faces on those guys. The jump pack boys look okay except a little bulky and their constant fall-back pose is goofy.
>Lore
How they fit in with Cawl is actually really god writing imo. I don't like that they make spacers seem weak by comparison. I hope that in future editions they differentiate and get fluffed out. If they progress the story such that there's a new heretical (thought not necessarily chaotic) mechanicus and the primaris turn into spookers, it would solve the problem of the space marines seeming antiquated.
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>>54530469
FUCK YOU EREBUS
>>
i heard necrons are overpowered, is that true?
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>>54531349
Kind of? They're really strong against newer players and really easy to pilot. They're not top of the pack in higher tier play though, as they lack options and powerful decisive units.
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>>54527862
And a quarter as durable, a quarter as shooty over half the range and given less weapon options and no chapter tactics.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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