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Does Slaanesh have a future? Will Games Workshop really kill Slaanesh?

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Does Slaanesh have a future?
Will Games Workshop really kill Slaanesh?
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Slaanesh will always live on in our dicks
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>>54500728

Three bucks says if they try to remove it, the general zeitgeist of 40k will become so intolerably obscene as to cause a moral panic.

They're better off sticking him/her in the back of the book and dicking over chaos demons codexes.
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"I'm Kairoz, Visier of Tzeench.
One head will answer one question and the other head will answer the other.
Be adviced though that one of my heads will speak nothing but the truth, the other will do nothing but lie.
The answer you see is... yes.... and yes"
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>>54500728
yes, but it will be promptly replaced by an elven-proxy that waters down its original themes

note: emperors children will live on under fulgrim
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>>54501010
the existing slaaneshi plastic kits will be rebranded under this new force of chaotic elves
plastic keeper of secret or other actually slaaneshi daemon will never come out

GW will only put distinctive features of the other 3 gods every time it will be called to represent chaos united

GW fanboys will defend the dethroning this way
>if someone cared it would have sold
>slaanesh is practically still there: see the emperors children?
>slaanesh is practically still there: see the shadow elves?
>they will bring it back, eventually, give it 30 years
>it's not been squatted, it exists as part of the setting's history
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>>54500909
>Issues relating to addiction require huge nuance, because these are real-world issues that have real-world consequences.
But brutal murder, war, disease, conspiration, betrayal, decay aren't.
Left-wing or right-wing 'Murican will always have a pathological hatred for anything related to sex or nudity
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>>54500909
Wasn't the whole point of Slaanesh that going overboard is bad but moderation is fine?
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>>54500728
Slaanesh literally just got a Start Collecting box... And the lore of both 40k and AoS is starting to focus around it mroe and more.
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>>54501330
Slaanesh is based the concept that every society/civilization has taboo/moral limit and people desire to go beyond those limit
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There was a Slaanesh Sorcerer lord in the WHQ Hammerhal game

The just did Start Collecting Slaanesh

Fulgrim is coming soon

Hopefully they will just remove the cringe associated with the fanbase.
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>>54500909
>If the god of pleasure is a corrupting power, then any pleasure is potentially corrupting.
That's the point. EVERYTHING in 40K is potentially corrupting.
>Learning is great. I'm gonna learn as much as I can because wisdom and knowledge are awesome!
>I am a man of honor and valor. I stand in the face of my enemies and fear nothing. I will never know defeat so long as I breathe!
>I love my family. I shall spend my time with my family and we will grow and thrive and prosper.

And now you're all daemon princes because you liked that one thing too goddamn much.
Hell, if you like fedora tipping on the internet too much you become an acolyte of Nehoco. there's nothing too pure, innocent or banal that overindulgence in it doesn't lead to corruption.

Which is an absurdly meek moral stance to take, on the order of "be nice to people" and "clean up after yourself" on the scale of complicated morality.
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>>54501420
>Which is an absurdly meek moral stance to take, on the order of "be nice to people" and "clean up after yourself" on the scale of complicated morality.
Or
>don't be a dick
>be awesome to each other
>just be a decent person
Goddamn, that's such a vague way to define your morality.
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>>54501369

>Slaanesh personifies going beyond cultural norms
>Relegated to the dustbin of 40k history

In a way, it had to happen.
The only way out is to castrate the god and dilute its juices.

What do you get when you castrate of god of excess? It just doesn't work anymore. You're adding limit to the unlimited.
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>>54500728
With Fulgrim practically confirmed, I can see a shift in focus from hedonism to the EC's Perfectionism to insane degrees for the whole faction.
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>>54501420
>I love my family. I shall spend my time with my family and we will grow and thrive and prosper.
>Legends tell of the demon prince of Slaanesh, Senpai Leeman
>He loved his family to excess and fell to the temptation of the ruinous powers
>Now daemonettes hunt for his descendants to drag them kicking and screaming into the warp where they will be forced to dwell his unnaturally pleasant cottage in the eye of terror
>There they will be forced to endure the torments of home cooking and wholesome family activities for eternity
>For in the grim darkness of the far future every night is family night
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>>54501462
right, it's so vague that literally everyone agrees. There shouldn't be any controversy there.
It doesn't even make the holder a bad person to believe it, since even if you don't have a complicated, nuanced and rigorous moral philosophy that you espouse and hold yourself to, you can still manage to be a good person, since it's pretty rare that in real life an axe murderer comes to your house and asks if there's a switch in your attic where if you flip it a trolley will crash into a lifeboat, but if you don't flip it, you strangle baby hitler in his crib. So a moral attitude of "I try to be a positive influence on people around me" is enough to generally be a pretty good person.

So no, Slaanesh is not encouraging homophobia and it's self-serving political grandstanding to claim anything about 40K has any significant positive or negative moral message.
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>>54501543
loving your family and focusing on their growth and prosperity is Nurgle.
Each of those examples were different chaos gods. Papa Nurgle is Papa Nurgle for a reason. Honorable warriors still fall to Khorne, even without giving in to raging bloodlust. And literally every nerd who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room is an acolyte of Tzeentch.
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>>54501339

They're reinventing the god.

It was once all about seduction and intoxication which makes perfect sense. You can easily embody these concepts. You can also easily imagine yjr Space Marines of old becoming corrupted by these things.

That had to go. Not kid friendly. Not intelligentsia friendly. Linking carnality and intoxication to violence and death has become a minefield.

They tepidly tried changing the god of drugs and sex to one of obsession and excessive perfectionism, but it didn't catch on. Moreover, how do you even embody these concepts in miniatures. And is not ever faction of the Imperium obsessive?

And so it's come to this. Slaanesh has been deliberately shrouded in obscurity for some time now, and for some time to come. This has been done to create a blank slate of sorts one upon which a new vision of Slaanesh will be inscribed.

Are the rumors true? Will Slaanesh be reinvented as a god of 'pleasure through pain'. If so, will they explore sexual territory, or will they play it safe and settle for flushed faces and torn flesh.
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>>54501472
Y'know, I genuinely think all this will boil down to is taking the nipples off the models and most of the art focusing on noise marines and torture machines (like a grungier Dark Eldar).
Once the actual visible sex references are sanded off the whole thing will die down.
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>>54501479
>I can see a shift in focus from hedonism to the EC's Perfectionism to insane degrees for the whole faction.

How would "perfectionism monsters" look?
Malevolent preening?
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>>54501608
>Not kid friendly.
Yet the other 3 are? Khorne is filled as as much blood and gore as the the human body can contain. Nurgle has his followers decaying and becoming masses of filth and death. And Tzeentch is basically a corrupt politician turned up to 11 that does nothing but lie and cheat to get his way. None of them are the best role models, and this doesn't even include the other factions in the universe.
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>>54501728

Only one of the chaos gods tends to include sexual content that nerds enjoy. And if there's anything that the left-wing puritans hate, it's men , especially low-status men like nerds/gamers, being happy or feeling comfortable exploring sexuality in media.
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>>54501787
What kind of twisted stuff are you in to if you feel happy and comfortable around slaaneshi lore?
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>>54501822

Pain, mostly.
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>>54501658
Like Marble statues, but exaggerated and stretched to monstrous proportions with uncanny valley features.
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>>54501375
You mean of the whole hobby?
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>>54501546
The problem of course, is that what constitutes "not being a dick" and "being a dick" generally varies, thus applying a generic Hallmark Card-tier moral bandage on humanity is going to cause all sorts of problems.
>I'll try to be a positive influence
Often said by those who just try instead of being. "Oh I TRIED being a positive influence but X, Y and Z happened, so oops. It's not my fault. At least I tried though." It's just half-hearted bullshittery, like when someone says "I don't care about [subject]." Just mere posturing of being good rather than actually being good.
When someone says platitudes like "don't be a dick," it just feels like he has his heart in the right place, but lack the mental fortitude and power to really delve into what actually constitutes as positivity.
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>>54501608
>They tepidly tried changing the god of drugs and sex to one of obsession and excessive perfectionism

When did this happen?
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>>54501940

Well it kind of makes sense - Slaanesh is the god of self-indulgence taken to an illogical extreme, whereas Khorne is the god of fucking murdering/killing everything, including yourself - with an unhealthy dose of self-repression in the service of boodlshed thrown in.
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>>54501420
chaos god of friendship and wholesomness when
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>>54501728

Tzeentch is too abstract to offend with immediacy
Khorne's carnage is often implied
Nurgle and his rotting hordes are far from everyday concerns and have a cartoony quality to them

Contrast to these a Slaaneshy vixen with spread legs and heaving bosom. That, my friend, has the power to provoke strong emotion at a glance.
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>>54501728
people realized that media depictions of violence don't actually make people violent.
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>>54501996
Nurgle already exists, anon.
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>>54501822
>What kind of twisted stuff are you in to if you feel happy and comfortable around slaaneshi lore?

People watch Planet of the Apes to better understand humanity (a story in which murderous monkeys butcher humans). By analogy, the deviant sexual crimes of demon-whores in space can help us think about healthy and normal human behavior.

Same thing with the ancient Athenians and the Amazons or Centaurs.
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>>54502019
they did?
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>>54501940

I don't know. It was such a failure that no one even noticed.
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But where have all the daemonettes gone?
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>>54500728
If they keep listening to the "millions of POC and female players who'd spend all their money in the product if they just changed everything about it", yes.
Then they will continue to lose money as they shit on the target audience because they listened to a faggot tumblrite and his immaginary friends.
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>>54500909
Excess, you dumb whore.
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>>54502017
I see slaanesh as more an eye boob with barbed tongue that slits your throat kind of god.
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>>54501728
The left hates sex and themselves just a tiny bit more than they hate white hetero nerds.
A goddess that promises everyone can be eternally blissful in excess is the creepiest shit ever for such people.
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>>54503953

The way I see it, the Left objects to Slaanesh because it paints sexual extremes in a negative light.
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>>54500909
>tfw modern civilization is so degenerate it is unironically defending Slaanesh

The Fall can't come soon enough.
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>>54503953
You're wrong.
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>>54501608
>in a world where 11 year old girls are taught to twerk as part of a school dance program, 15 year olds have tindr accounts and college aged woman are encouraged to fuck anything that moves with no regard for safety or consequence... THEY ARE LITERALLY GOING TO REMOVE A PILLAR OF THEIR LORE BECAUSE IT'S TOO SEXUAL I SWEAR, PAY NO MIND TO THE STORIES FOCUSED ON IT OR THE NEW MODEL KITS SAYING OTHERWISE
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>>54504016
>tfw modern civilization is so degenerate it is unironically defending Slaanesh

It's idiotic at times how much modern media defends unrestrained sexuality.

Like, i was watching "American Gods", and one of the characters was an immigrant black goddess called Bilquis(which may shit on one of the themes in the book being that gods are local, but whatever) who was the Queen of Sheba/various other love deities in the past.

Bitch literally tricks people into devouring her worshipers souls with her vagina to feed her power, either in ritualistic orgies, in the past, or
by hooking up with people in bars or on Tinder in modern times.

Tbh, none of the gods in that show are nice, and they all love human sacrifices as spirit food(except Anubis and Jesus), but this chick is literally a bisexual sexual predator that snuffs people out in weird murder-fucking.

The way the show presents it?
>People fear muh strong, sexually liberated, independent woman of colour because men feel threatened by a queen in power;

Wtf, Bilquis is literally Cio from KSBD when she was Yabalchoath, and the show fucking praises her.
>>54504121
>THEIR LORE BECAUSE IT'S TOO SEXUAL I SWEAR
No, no, they hate it because it says all this kinky weird sex-drugs-and-body-mods is a bad thing.
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I'm seriously curious as to what the consequences of Slaneesh actually dying would be.

>dark eldar lose their reason to be batshit crazy tortureporn elves
>1 less chaos god means less fights between the chaos gods -> stronger chaos?
>eldar can start having babies again without fearing they'll be raped for an eternity by the most depraved being in existence
>a ton of eldar souls suddenly free from Slaneesh
>goodbye noise marines, goodbye pink children

I have a really hard time believing this would ever happen but if it did it would probably be the biggest thing to happen in the lore during the time mankind's been around
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>>54501472
You know how much everyone wants bridled hedonism. A couple glasses of red wine (and lots of water), a quick attempt at missionary, and asleep by 11. That's what the people crave.
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>>54501567
>loving your family and focusing on their growth and prosperity is Nurgle.

>Nurgle
>love

You fell for the memes, anon. Nurgle is despair and ruin, which comes so far around that people embrace the nihilism. They believe in nothing, Lebowski; they saw The End and laughed, for those who saw it and wept did not survive.
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>>54504010
If we (white male hetero nerds) hated Slaanesh the left would call us sexist, homophobic shitlords for it.
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>>54503418
But the minis are purple ladies with their tits out. Nurgle's line comes the closest to actually portraying the horror of the god, but that requires a really talented painter who can go beyond "fat green guy, laughing with some gross red bits spilling out."
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>>54504121
Nigger, they're already complaining about SFV's new alternate sports costumes because it doesn't matter if women are under-dressed whores IRL, what matters is not letting low-value white men have access to such women even if they're made of pixels.
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>>54504392
>Like, i was watching "American Gods", and one of the characters was an immigrant black goddess called Bilquis(which may shit on one of the themes in the book being that gods are local, but whatever) who was the Queen of Sheba/various other love deities in the past.

The gods aren't local. That's the whole point, the old gods were brought to America in the minds of their followers and then abandoned, because America is poor soil for gods. The new gods have yet to learn this, even though they can see things like the gods of trains and radio decaying.

And there is a strong psychosexual component to Bilquis in the book as well; men are threatened by her, and yet drawn to her, because she controls them body and heart. It's established in both cases by making an innocent man worship her, then sacrificing himself to her (though the book does a better job of it, in that the man's wife/girlfriend calls looking for him and she just says he's not here anymore).
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Do any of you faggots have anything to back up your theory that a left wing conspiracy is behind the lack of focus on Slaanesh?
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>>54505104
>And there is a strong psychosexual component to Bilquis in the book as well; men are threatened by her, and yet drawn to her, because she controls them body and heart. It's established in both cases by making an innocent man worship her, then sacrificing himself to her (though the book does a better job of it, in that the man's wife/girlfriend calls looking for him and she just says he's not here anymore).

Yeah, i remember that.
Still, Nancy's little rant about her being some innocent strong, independent woman that got dethroned is still kinda retarded.
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>>54504967

Woah
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>>54504423

The eldar could go back home for one
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I'll only accept the permadeath of a chaos god if it's done in a way that's so ridiculous that you can't help but shake your head and go "ok, sure!"

Like Mork and Gork just punch her/him REALLY hard, and that's what does it.
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>>54504423

noise marines will just ride with/worship Fulgrim
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>>54501369
It's excessive indulgence, not just doing things that Mom and Pop said were naughty. It's indulgence to the point of obsession, of self-obliteration.
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>>54500728
who cares, the memes will live on
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>>54501543
>>He loved his family to excess

In a Slaaneshi context, that would manifest as the most fucked up, selfish obsession you could imagine.
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>>54505224 Of course they don't. It's the left boogeyman all over again, it hasn't yet left their psyche, never mind the fact that america not only are almost alone in still using the imperial system, they also almost solemnly use a completely different political compass from the rest of the world. The positions they attribute to left and right are all over the place.

Never mind the fact that the AMERICAN right wing are the people that hate sex, culture and poor people. The AMERICAN left wing at least stands intelectually honest behind it's position to just ban everything they don't like (of which sex is not a part, hell, they'd present it as a bad thing you wouldn't engage in things you perceive as sexualy depraved), while the AMERICAN right wing just wants to ban all the other stuff the left forgot, whilst advocating the dissolution of all good and sensical rules in the name of your "freedom" so that they can then buy and lie and cheat their way to ban/subvert it with money.

They are both spawn of satan that deserve nothing but a tortured slow death, but the right hides it better, so all of these pseudo intelectual cucklords are too stupid to realize they are gladly accepting the baited boogeyman and then go on to self mastubatory heights to praise themselves for they clairvoyance as they are being assraped anyways.

And the extreme rights all over the world rejoice, for they are getting free propaganda to use, an entire army of mongoloid keyboard warriors that try to hammer in conotations of "good" and "bad" in relation to left and right that make no sense in the rest of the world.
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>>54500728
Their stance is that their primary market is kids with rich parents cause edgy metalheads don't have as much free cash as they used to, so yeah they will totally kill off the god of rape-crabs.

As to if it will stick, given that the community is an infinite echo chamber that still clings onto stuff from the era when space marines were Judge Dredd in power armour, then probably not forever, but expect squat levels of denial for the foreseeable future.
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>>54501472
Slaanesh is proof that trannies are Chaos-aligned. That can't fly at nu-GW.
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>all this fucking salt about something that isn't even going to happen

They literally just released a book where Slaaneshi characters play a very influential role, and are very obviously degenerate hedonists in all forms when they're present.

It makes no sense for them to create releases and give background (that coincides with what is already established in most respects) and then axe that entire pillar on the grounds of, "muh kid friendly" bullshit - from the company that literally wrote an article making fun of PETA criticizing Space Wolves using fur. Being PC and FAMILY-FRIENDLY isn't their selling point - while they're not trying to be actively offensive, they also handle big-boy concepts like morality, religion, violence, human nature, and survival in a universe so shitty that the hyper-religious Nazis In Space are actually the good guys.

It makes absolutely ZERO financial sense either. What are they going to do with all the molds and existing models if they kill Slaanesh? What are they going to do with all those kits that include Slaaneshi bitz, which is virtually EVERY Chaos model? That's a shitload of investment just to REMOVE something, and it makes no sense whatsoever when both 40K and 30K are huge cash cows that are stronger than they've ever been.

Y'all niggas need to jump off the panic bus and learn basic business sense.
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>>54508077
>trannies are Chaos-aligned

But the Blood Angels are Imperial, anon.
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>>54505104
But in the book she's portrayed as a hideous, vile sexual predator. She's not strong, she's weak-willed for stooping to those levels just to stay alive. Her entire existence is degenerate and pitiful, like so many of the old gods.
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>>54506453
>I love my family so much, we're going to go to a talent agent to show him our new family stage performance.
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>>54507075
If it was gonna happen, it'd have happened by now. And they CERTAINLY wouldn't have released a SC box just last week
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>>54508140
True, but hollywood places much greater emphasis on "social justice" than an author does, which results in things like the mauling of Bilquis' character (among many other things in the book).
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It's almost like Slaanesh would be better served by the chaos gods having more depth to them.

God of Excess is far more interesting and variable than "LOLBOOBSJOINCHAOS".
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>>54508813
>It's almost like Slaanesh would be better served by the chaos gods having more depth to them.

They actually do have a lot of depth to them for people who actually read the lore.

The problem is that people read 1d4chan, watch TTS, and take 40K memes as gospel without ever actually reading any of the fluff.
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>>54508914
Fulgrim, for all it's faults, did a good job showing Slaaneshi infestation. Everything is fine until you face a hurdle between you and what you want, you overcome the hurdle with some effort, and everything is fine again until the next hurdle.

It's not until someone else comes along and asks why there's all these corpses that the scale becomes apparent, and which point it's too late for takebacks.
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>>54501728
Puritanical UK and USA have always taken violence over sex as a vice. As sacrilegious as 40K is/used to be, for many there is a strong Christian root to our moral fiber that is totally cool having kids butcher people in video games but porn is a no-no.
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>>54508989
>hey what's with all these bodies
>oh, uh, they just sort of, got in my way?
>so you killed them?
>well, I mean, when you put it like that I sound like the bad guy, it was self defence
>self defence?
>at first sure
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>>54508914

It's often fairly deep in the lore though, or fairly far back though.

Visually, which is what hits most people first, there isn't a lot of the other aspects like search for perfection in something, or even just like gluttony and stuff (cause nurgle is the fat one).
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>>54500909
I thought the point of the Chaos gods was that they were virtues taken to absurd extremes?
Khorne was Courage and martial valor
Tzeentch was Knowledge and the ability to change
Nurgle was supposed to be perserverance maybe? Was never sure about him
Slaanesh was passion.
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>>54509414
Nurgle is joy and despair. He literally feeds on hopelessness, turning it into a deranged sense of acceptance and happiness. He also took your physical and mental pain away.

He's a swell guy.

Source: Liber Chaotica
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>>54504121
>15 year olds have tindr accounts
Guess I gotta get a tinder.
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>>54509666
I'd tell you to reconsider but from those trips the Dark Prince approves so try not to get caught I guess.
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>>54509497
>Nurgle gives people a false sense of comfort and causes them to not reach for anything

Literally the worst of the ruinous powers.
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>>54501323
I get what you're saying, but war, disease, and the like don't directly affect the general public of most first world countries. Many people in first world countries either deal with addiction themselves or have close loved ones that do.

War is always there, but also such a far off thing.

Not that I agree with that being a reason to remove Slaanesh.
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>>54509666
Nice get.
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>>54505224
Wouldn't the left have a lot more concerns about The imperium?
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>>54504905
Despair is Love, anon, just as surely as Death is Life. And remenber, Nihilism does not always mean Defeatism.

All life is suffering. You have not lived a single instant of your life that wasn't stolen from whatever you ate. This whole cursed world turns on pain, but one day even it will end; the Gods will consume everything. A kalpa will pass, the wheel will turn, and a new universe of suffering will be born.

But, there is freedom in suffering. One who will die lives his last days immortal; nothing can take his life, for he knows it is no longer his. Rejoice, for you are dying! Love your rival; your hatred is a drop in the ocean of suffering that is theirs. Share your food; it will feed the maggots one day anyway! Show "mercy" to your enemy; death will only hasten the inevitable.

Let love be a part of everything you do, for Nurgle loves you! He sees that life is suffering, and he pitties us poor living things. He comforts us in our suffering, and ends it when the time is right.

Nurgle is Love. Nurgle is Life.
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>>54511651
I'm a little concerned that a trap besides myself also got a mark of Slaanesh tattoo.
It's cool that there are others though.
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>>54506217
>Gork (or possibly Mork) punches her/him in the right in the gubbinz SO hard she/he loses her/his permanent erection and, as the humongous penis that opens the gateways of chaos and spews forth the her/his daemonic offspring deflates, so does her/his form.
She/he knows her/his time has come, she/he won't be relegated to the role of a temptress that never delivers on her promises.
But she/he won't just leave without a final dance, her/his swan's song - the Eye of Terror flexes, glaring to the real space installations of the Eldar... they're the only ones worthy to sing her Requiem, with a voice only heard once before, and that will never be heard again.
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>>54509003
Dude, GW is run by englishmen that for years have given not a single fuck about what anyone thinks.
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I think Slaanesh would be better off if they focused on other aspects than just "lmaosex"
Excess doesn't just mean sex.
>captcha frei HURON
I forgot he existed
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>>54501940
like 3e.
at least i remeber the 3e chaos codex having that slant
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>>54512420

Gork and Mork laugh, they knew dat woz gun happen
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>>54512491
I think an interesting take on Slaanesh might be a sort of Nietzschean ideal of pursuing perfected self-realization through constant pursuit of overcoming.
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>>54512532
That sounds almost Khornate
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>>54512532
In what way? Khorne is about mindless hate and destruction, something Nietzsche is very critical of. Nietzsche advocates a pursuit of self-overcoming and the pursuit of something greater, even if that something is beyond mankind itself.
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>>54512553
Meant for
>>54512537
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>>54512511
>Mork (or possibly Gork) rejoices, for he knows what the death throes of the god will mean for the galaxy - a right proper scrum, and if the youngling god will stay true to her/his name, the most proper scrum of the era.
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>>54512491
I'm one of the ones that likes the excessive sex aspects of Slaanesh, but I also like all the other aspects too, perfectionism and overindulgence of baser desires.
You don't need to scrap one to have the other two.
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>>54512576
I don't have anything wrong with the sex aspect itself, I just feel they focus too much on it, and ignore everything else.
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>>54512553
>Khorne is about mindless hate and destruction
confirmed for knowing shit about Khorne, but that's besides the point.

Basically, it's sounds Khornate because Khorne is very big on "active" actions, with regards to the overlap that can occur between Khorne and Slaanesh.
The example that's often given is the idea of swordsmanship. The warrior who wants to become a perfect swordsman is excessive, and thus Slaaneshi. The warrior who kills many chalenging foes, becoming a perfect swordsman, is Khornate.
To become perfect is Slaaneshi. To become perfect while overcoming challenges is Khornate. Really, it could tip either way.
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>>54512585
You do have a point there.
But to be fair, from a design standpoint it's hard to show the other aspects inn model design.
Noise Marines being obsessed with loud noises is kind of all we have.
But maybe we'll get Palatine Blades and Phoenix Terminators soon?
As for Daemons I think the Fiends are kind of like the Daemonic equivalent of Noise Marines with their soporific musk.
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>>54512615
You don't become perfect by overcoming challenges, you become the best.
Slaneesh is PERFECT, Khrone is BEST.
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>>54512654
That's actually a very good way of putting it.

Which begs the question, when Nietzsche said Perfect, did he mean PERFECT or BEST?
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>>54504060
false, see (((sex negative feminists)))
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You're all aware that they just released Start Collecting Slaanesh, for Age of Sigmar, right?

Slaanesh is here to stay and was never going anywhere.
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>>54512867
The whip-wielding charioteer reminds me of that horrific mirrored fyreslayer
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>>54512765
Both, he was not an hack writer so he was talking both about improvement by asperity and the will to become always better.
The question is, was he willing to go full retard on them like the Chaos Gods are?
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>>54512883
Under that logic the Emperor and his vision for humanity is the Nietzchean ideal. He is the first overman, and his endgame is that everyone becomes like him through overcoming the perils of Man's psychic evolution.
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>>54501658
>How would "perfectionism monsters" look?

Perfect.
If they take a single wound which marrs their features they commit ritualistic suicide.

They also fuck like rabbits though so there's lots of them
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>>54513005
>They also fuck like rabbits though so there's lots of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-nuV36fvgQ
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>>54503953
No you mean the conservative right moron. As A central lefty faggot I'm all for individuals rights so long as they do it in their own homes with other consenting adults. So no Bestiality or pedophilia.
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>>54509003

Actually over here the moral panic is usually over violence not sex
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Reminder this is what Slaanesh sex probably should look like if the participants are able.

To be honest physical sex is probably ridiculously low on the list of "pleasure stimulants".
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>>54508092
They said Age of Shitmar wasn't going to happen.

And yet it did.

They said Age of Grilyman wasn't going to happen.

And yet it did.

They said Slaanesh wouldn't get Malal'd so the settings would become 'Child Friendly'

To be Continued........
If it doesn't come to pass then I'll feel like an idiot.
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>>54513112

The UK is kinda takes it's stance from a mix between the US and European mind sets.

In so much as the media will freak the fuck out about sex AND violence, rather than just one or the other.
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>>54512867
You know they released a shit ton of stuff for End Times and then said. 'Oh hey yeah all those models you just bought yeah? Well now you need to redo the base and most of them aren't being supported any more ;P
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>>54513102
Kys
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>>54513102
>no bestiality
So you ADMIT you're against Slaanesh!
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>>54513393
IRL yes, In fiction no.
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>>54513535
fag
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>>54512867
every time I see those daemonettes I die a little more inside
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>>54511651
Dude it's Scarce - note the flannel on the chair
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>>54513167
>GW says stupid shit
>GW does stupid shit
>GW might do more stupid shit

Literally, so what?

If Laurie Goldengirl declared tomorrow that Slaanesh was no longer canon - for no reason - all of the Slaaneshi art, rules, lore and models would still exist, and continue to exist, LONG after Laurie Goldengirl, who is just another in a long line of dippy, temp GW spokesfaggots, is forgotten. Out here in The World, we can do whatever the fuck we want with our Little Mans. (Ask me about my Demiurge AM regiment ... ) 1yr later on, Slaanie could be brought back unchanged - for no reason - and this profound and inexplicable retardation would only be regarded as Peak GW.

Also, people need to stop treating GW like a real company. They don't have to worry about losing profits if they do stupid shit, since doing dumb shit has pretty much been GW's mission statement since Y2k - yet here we are.
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>>54512867
Is there a single new sculpt in that ? I think not.
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>>54515030
is there ever a new sculpt in SC! ?
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>>54515084
No, it's usually a simple reboxing of old stuff.
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>Sarah Craske found the copy of Metamorphoses in a secondhand bookshop and used bacteria within its pages to create art with her own blood

Do you ever feel like contemporary artists and intellectuals have an affinity with the Chaos gods?
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>>54515601
No more than artists of any other period. At least the blood she used was her own.
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>>54515601
Nurgle is pleased
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as with Mortarion coming back next, I think they will do one more primarch for the loyalists (I think it's going to be Dark Angels) after that then we either get World Eaters primarch or Emperor's Children primarch
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>>54515874
Fulgrim will come back with a Ynnari-focused campaign. Girlyman will probably feature in because he owes his life to Yvraine and she might call in that debt when Slaanesh comes knocking. Ynnead will likely kill Slaanesh and take its place and the Ynnari will become Chaos Eldar or some shit.
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>>54515984
>Ynnead
>killing Slaanesh
I know that's the stupid things purpose, but it's still not happening.
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>>54515984
>>54516068
Ynnead is Slaanesh you morons. Ancient doom is a bigger theme now than ever.
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>>54516494
Wait what?
Are you pulling this out of your ass, or do you have something?
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>>54510874
>Nurgle takes away physical and mental limitations, allowing you to pursue Daemonhood

Seems chill to me
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>>54500728
I care far more the excess aspect of Slaanesh and I really wish it was the first thing people thought of when hearing the name rather than it's common connotation.
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>>54500957
Are you a....GENESTEALER!?
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>>54517298
What?
No! Yes!
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>>54505030
>what matters is not letting low-value white men have access to such women

I'm always fascinated by the hoops that incels will jump through to convince themselves that it's actually everyone else's fault that they can't get laid.
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>>54513112
This recently passed: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2017/30/part/3/enacted
tl;dr Stricter control of porn, tracking and ban of “extreme pornographic material” and by "extreme" they mean anything "grossly offensive, disgusting or otherwise of an obscene character."
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>>54518677
>May being an idiot
F O X H U N T I N G
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Can someone explain?

They are removing slaanesh?
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>>54506698
Your rant sounds like conspiracy.

Simple: nobody listens to christians/muslims. Everyone's listening to SJW, who are banning sexuality just like christians but for a different reason:

>Muh sexism. Instead of MUH JESUS.

They're both fucking shit, but people listen to SJWs still, somehow.
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>>54518569
>>54519021
>deleted
Why? One even apologize and the other clearly state he's playing devil's advocate.
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>>54519195
I missed the latter post, but mine was kind of getting off-topic.
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>>54505251
>Still, Nancy's little rant about her being some innocent strong, independent woman that got dethroned is still kinda retarded.
the depiction of Nancy in the show is retarded compared to the book
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>>54504392
Eh i dont buy that. All of the dieties in the show kill people and are glorified. The point was that when a sexual woman did it the other dieties thought it was bad.

If people were criticizing the other dieties for killing and giving her a pass, that would make sense. But its the opposite, the others are all awful and get more respect.
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>>54506698
>The AMERICAN left wing at least stands intelectually honest behind it's position to just ban everything they don't like (of which sex is not a part
Heterosexual sex among members or the same race for the purpose of procreation sure as hell seems to be a taboo for the dems.
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Yeah, they will replace it with malal or maybe a short, stout god fond of drinking and machinery.
That or a giant rat.
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>>54517745
I'm not even white and the agenda is so thick it's sickening. I sincerelly feel like a piece of meat by how hard media pushes white women into brown/black men like we're some new brand of ice cream instead of people.
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>>54524336
That's racism towards Brown/Black people, not towards White people though.
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>>54513102
People from your party are right now pushing both that pedophiles are ok and need to be understood, and that every kind of sex an heterosexual male can have is rape.
We didn't make that shit up, your cult is as full of lunatics as the elephant cult is full or religious nuts. The horseshoe is real and politics apparently can't help but rot people's brains into excess.
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>>54515601
They have a desperate need for attention and relevance and a complete lack of skills to get them. Shock is all they have left for 25 seconds of fame.
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>>54524448

I feel like you are really judging everybody by a small group of people you see posting online. The mast majority of liberals who favor lgbt rights don't think straight sex is rape and that it's ok to fuck kids. I live in a liberal area and I've never had anybody come tell me that all straight sex is rape.
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>>54524373
It negatively impacts on both groups, one group's suffering is not mutually exclusive to another's.
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>>54524373
If people were telling brown women not to have sex with brown men because white men are better in whatever way, nobody would bat an eye to call that shit racist. But you self-hating white guilt SJWs work on fee fees rather than logic.
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>>54524784

I think the motive really matters here.

In reality there is a lot of discrimination against minorities when it comes to relationship stuff. As of 2013 more than 10% of Americans still didn't support interracial marriage.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/163697/approve-marriage-blacks-whites.aspx

Showing an interracial couple to get the idea across that its OK is not positing that one ethnicity is superior.

On the other hand, if somebody literally started going "This group is the master race you should only fuck them" that would be pretty racist.
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>>54524689
>I feel like you are really judging everybody by a small group of people you see posting online.
Pot and kettle. Militant leftists do exactly the same to right-wingers, nowadays everyone even slightly right of Bill Clinton is being called a nazi by your party.

I'm not even right-wing myself, I'm trapped in the middle of two cults who right now seem to be pushing how far apart they can go in their little tyrannies before people in the middle revolt and kill them all.

America is in dire need of a centrist party that can protect the rights of the mayority against the whims and privileges of the far left and far fight minorities.
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>>54524877
>I think the motive really matters here.
It doesn't.
Either all racism is racism or no racism is racism.

And if it was a benign sociological interest instead of a malign marketing ploy, we'd see more black women with white men or asians with withes, or asians with blacks, or hispanics. But it's always white woman + black man because assholes in a meeting room are thinking in terms of cucks and bulls when pushing products for the modern demographic with most expendable income: white women.

If I was a white man I'd feel vindicated, if you are a white man and don't feel there's anything wrong or shady about this, leave your credit card home so your gf can pamper me next time we go out behind your back not because she likes me, but because media tells her she needs to date "exotic" men to be socially approved.
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>>54525094

>It doesn't.
>Either all racism is racism or no racism is racism.

See this is a good start. I think its a fair point to say that intentionally depicting inter-race couples, even out of benign social interest (as opposed to a belief in ethnic superiority), is still racist.

> If I was a white man I'd feel vindicated, if you are a white man and don't feel there's anything wrong or shady about this, leave your credit card home so your gf can pamper me next time we go out behind your back not because she likes me, but because media tells her she needs to date "exotic" men to be socially approved.

See this is where you crazy. I'm not saying you are, but this just kinda comes off as sexually frustrated and a bit psychotic.
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>>54525094

What in the actual fuck are you talking about. Genuinely. I consume media, rabidly, I browse tumblr, I even read a few magazines, I'm liberal as fuck, and I have literally no idea what 'promotion of exotic men for social acceptance' you're talking about. I'm about as white male as it fucking gets, and I'm doing quite well in the pussy department.
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>>54525077
It's ok for everyone to speak against tyranny, opression, social engineering, cult programming and any other sort of freedom-infringement no matter where it comes from or who you are.

The left is not innocent, the right is not innocent, both desserve derision and stoic opposition.

If you are against racism, don't be racist to anyone, for any reason. Otherwise you're just one more hypocrite pretending role-reversal is "progress" and not the stark opposite.
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>>54525104
According to the left.
The right thinks exactly the same shit you do but backwards.
Because you're both retarded egotists that will see everyone else suffer for your whims and both need to be brought down so that neither can continue hurting innocent people for the sake of your idiotic rivalry.
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>>54525225

> It's ok for everyone to speak against tyranny, opression, social engineering, cult programming and any other sort of freedom-infringement no matter where it comes from or who you are.

It's OK to speak out against Tyranny, but it's not OK to blame huge groups of people for the actions of a few. It's also not OK to try to justify it by going "Well people loosely associated to you do it to me so it's ok if i do it to you!"

> If you are against racism, don't be racist to anyone, for any reason. Otherwise you're just one more hypocrite pretending role-reversal is "progress" and not the stark opposite.

I agree
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>>54509089
Kek'd
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>>54524877
>As of 2013 more than 10% of Americans still didn't support interracial marriage.
Wow, that's awful. I wish more white teenagers fucked other races.
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>>54525199
I'll admit I may be a bit more attentive to social engineering than the average /tg/ denizen. I migrated to USA during the South African ethnic cleansing of 08 and was aware of the Kenyan Crisis and the arab expulsion from Niger in 06. During all these events the first thing you notice in retrospective is media showing more people not like you and speaking at lenght about how problematic and unnescessary people like you are.

Not saying you're gonna be ethnically cleansed, but your media is telling your women to leave you for last. And it's not from any sort of benign principle, it's either money or racism.
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>>54518937
No, just trolls being trolls.
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>>54525199
Also I was exaggerating, I don't go out with married women, though I don't doubt some less scrupulous men of any ethnicity and social standing do.
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>>54525462


> Not saying you're gonna be ethnically cleansed, but your media is telling your women to leave you for last.

How do you know I'm not the brown person who is being prioritized?


> During all these events the first thing you notice in retrospective is media showing more people not like you and speaking at lenght about how problematic and unnescessary people like you are.

As an arab, I feel this way every day, but I think you are trying to say white people should be worried about this (or am I misreading the comment). People have been telling me to get out of the country since 9/11

>>54525489
Good, but in all seriousness it makes your point come across way weaker when you say stuff like that.
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>>54525266
I'm pretty sure when people say SJWs we refer to the white hetero male hategroup that thinks sexy fictional characters are rape and wants people to be jailed for using the wrong pronouns, usually native of tumblr, twitter and west-coast universities. The people who care and fight for the rights and equitative threatment of people are social activists.

And both far-left/right and militant left/right-winger already discriminate the crazies in both camps from the moderates.
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Why do you guys think they're gonna kill off Slaanesh?
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>>54525678
>I think you are trying to say white people should be worried about this
It's literally happening to white people right now. Do you not consume any mainstream media ever, or do you just not care because it isn't you?

>As an arab, I feel this way every day
Ever notice how there are arab countries for arabs, hispanic countries for hispanics, black countries for blacks, but if anyone even thinks about having a white country for whites they're a racist literal Nazi? You ever think white people might get a little tired of that?
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>>54525751
>And both far-left/right and militant left/right-winger already discriminate the crazies in both camps from the moderates.
Classical liberal here. This isn't broadly true on the left. If you think it is then you haven't been paying attention to the last fifty years of history.
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> It's literally happening to white people right now. Do you not consume any mainstream media ever, or do you just not care because it isn't you?


I never said it isn't happening. I just literally wasn't sure what you said because it's hard to detect tone on the internet.

> Ever notice how there are arab countries for arabs, hispanic countries for hispanics, black countries for blacks, but if anyone even thinks about having a white country for whites they're a racist literal Nazi? You ever think white people might get a little tired of that?

The people pushing for black only or arab only countries are totally wrong, and the people who are pushing for white only countries are also wrong. Also, its wrong to try to justify discriminating against minorities around you by saying "Well, some people of those ethnic groups who live far away discriminate against me". The solution to other countries being racist isn't to be racist back, that just perpetuates the problem.
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>>54501010
>What will my Emperors Children do without him?
LMAO, cucked by the emperor.
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>>54525955
>>54525830
>>54525882
GET THE FUCK OUT.
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>>54500728
Does this mean i can no longer greenstuff tiny feminie penises on my sisters of battle? id hate to think what will happen with my used fleshlight chaos lord
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>>54525678
Theres a difference between all mainstream media eliminating successful white men from view as role models or attractive partners vs Fox and rednecks saying "arabs go home" without stopping to think most muslims are from India or that a lot of arabs aren't islamic.

I've had a rather large ammount of "african-americans" call me a terrorist for wearing traditional CHRISTIAN Amhara clothes instead of their nigger hood uniforms. Little do they know I'm from Ethiopia where most of their great granddadies were dragged from nude and chained by my ancestors to be sold at your ancestors' slave markets. But "whitey" is the slaver...

In short, people are retarded, superficial and seek guilt where it doesn't belong. It not you or me or white guy Joe who's girlfriend left him for Tyrone. It's the people on top who have always and will always use us as pawns on a board so long as we remain unaware of their moves.
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>>54525882
You're a mirror image of your opposition.
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>>54526283
>It's the people on top who have always and will always use us as pawns on a board so long as we remain unaware of their moves.
It's okay to say the word jew, you know.
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>>54526283

> Theres a difference between all mainstream media eliminating successful white men from view as role models or attractive partners vs Fox and rednecks saying "arabs go home" without stopping to think most muslims are from India or that a lot of arabs aren't islamic.

I'm a bit confused by your point here? What is the difference?
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>>54513208
And caused quite the shitstorm among dedicated fans for doing it. While they've done damage control and still made money off it, they are fully aware that the massive change and scrapping of an entire setting was not well received, and have worked very hard to correct that mistake through fleshing things out and tinkering with new rules.

They will not do anything nearly that drastic with 40K/30K, because that setting is going strong and more profitable than it's ever been. That would be financial suicide, and money talks at GW.
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>>54516558
He has nothing. It's pure asspull.

Though I admit as a Slaanesh-player it'd be pretty fucking hilarious if it turned out Ynnead was just a Mega-Keeper of Secrets and like a third of the Eldar get corrupted on the spot
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>>54526405
If you can't see or actively ignore power dynamics you're part of the problem.
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>>54526766

Can you clearly explain yourself without being vague?
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>>54526766

I totally agree. The US government has killed hundreds of thousands of brown people over the last decade to enrich the military industrial complex. To add insult to industry they now ban people from the very countries they screwed up because its supposedly too dangerous (even though the government destabilized the region in the first place).

The fact that somebody could think the power dynamic is pro arab in the USA is a bit sad.
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>>54526849
The mainstream is culture, the specialized is sub-culture. You pretty much have to seek right-aligned POVs to be exposed to them even with a republican president on the house. But all you have to do is be in any city to be exposed to left-aligned POVs from radio, tv, internet, advertising, magazines, etc.

You pretty much have to go to /pol/ to hear far-right rethoric that isn't being displayed on mockery (and /pol/ is a mockery in itself so there isn't even that), meanwhile far-left indoctrination is literally college curriculum.

Doesn't matter if you don't agree with the right, they should have equal representation in media but they don't because the people who own the media are left-leaning and have no interests in an educated and free democracy. Ironically, thay may very well be why they lost this past election.
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>>54526972

I think this is really only true for a subset of issues. When the government wanted to go murder a bunch of Iraqis the majority of people and the media were for it.

I haven't heard anybody on TV say that we effectively lived through a modern genocide that was perpetuated by both parties. Sure, the media bashes trump more, but when it comes to a lot of issues that mater they are very conservative.
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>>54524275
No, Democrats love sex. We just hate treason.
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White male sex-having self-loving liberal Obama voter here. The weird sick 'eeevil leftists are conspiring against the white race' bullcrap is just /pol/ and Trumpshit ruining your brains.
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>>54527895
>>>/pol/
but as an aside Trump has been cleared of all charges brought to him at the time of the Comey hearing and afterwards you had a CNN producer admit that CNN and the whole of the media was engaging in yellow journalism. His approval rating has an aggregate of about 40% despite constant shilling oh yeah AND WHY THE FUCK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT POLITICS IN /tg/?
>>>/pol/
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>>54527957
>>>/pol/
>>>/pol/
>>>/pol/
but you faggots never go there, for some reason liberals never complain about politics on the designated board for it (guess it's because you're afraid of actual confrontation)
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>>54528025

It looks like you are ignoring some of the very /pol/ comments that are here. A bit of a double standard?
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>>54500728
You know that you're indoctrinated yourself to the lore when you look at pic related and feel immediate disgust and revulsion.
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>>54506420
Fucking this. Slaanesh isn't the god of butt stuff, he's Pinhead with a coat of purple paint.
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>>54502017
Except Slaanesh's daemons haven't looked like that in over a decade; these days, they're half-crab, half repulsive harpy (in a way evocative of the traditional succubi, which were supposed to be HORRIFYING).
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>>54524877
>As of 2013 more than 10% of Americans still didn't support interracial marriage.
This would be more useful if you were able to include a breakdown of the ethnicity of the participants in the study and how they answered. There have only been like 2 people I've ever met in person who openly disapproved of interracial couples and they were both black; you can't just pin that on whitey.
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>>54529554
Except they didn't? Have you ever considered the images of mixed-race couples might NOT be aimed at white people?
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>>54529714
He cited as an example of discrimination against minorities. The only real non-minority in the United States is Caucasians, and maybe Hispanics depending on your region. He couldn't be talking about anyone else.
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what's actually the problem tough, that GW changes Slaanesh from the god of sex, to the God of obsession?
It isn't like, you can't play a Slaaneshforce like a rape-army anymore.
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>>54529554
Data from dating sites indicates nobody but black women prefer black men over any other ethnicity.
(and that Native American men are the second or third most attractive to all ethnicities, for whatever reason).
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>>54512819
>what are exceptions
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>>54529985
>and that Native American men are the second or third most attractive to all ethnicities, for whatever reason)
It's probably the cheekbones.
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>>54527998
>but as an aside Trump has been cleared of all charges

no he hasn't

>His approval rating has an aggregate of about 40%

no it doesn't
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>>54506698
>tfw you're an anime fan
>both sides literally hate you with a burning hatred and want to censor/ban the material you enjoy
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>>54530600
This way my friend
>>/lgbt/
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I want /pol/ to leave. Why do they have to stick their dick everywhere they're not wanted?
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Sooo..... about slaanesh...
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>>54534882
best god in the setting, unless your an ork, who actively helps you to do what you enjoy
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>>54516558
People are drawing the theory from the fact that The Masque had fucked around with the spirit stones when Ynnead was created.

That and the fact that Ynnead himself seems to share characteristics with Slaanesh; monoboob, color scheme and androgynousness.
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