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go hog wild?
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>That guy who posted his OC like 3 seconds before the thread fell off
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>>54497220
That was me :(
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>>54497225
post it again
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>>54497225
Post it real fast, the only thing above you will be that shitpost autism CYOA.
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second cyoa i made... again 1/2
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>>54497294
2/2
how is it?
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>>54497204
We're getting bad at letting these fall off the board before making a new one, I should be more proactive in the future.

With that in mind, hope everyone has a good thread! Remember to not take bait and don't let yourself get dragged into silly arguments!
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>>54497294
Pretty good my man

Some typos and the formatting could be fine tuned a bit, but I'm certainly guilty of those sins in my work too

>Fox
>Conquer

With only one spirit conquering it should be easy, and with the Fox's abilities for lateral thinking I'm sure I could find plenty of ways to get rich and comfortable. Enhanced reflexes are icing on top.
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>>54497294
The font is a bit hard to read but is ok. The content itself is fine though. Overall all 7.5/10 not bad but not what I am interested in particularly
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>>54497294
Pretty ok if i say so myself
>Spirits
The wolf
The fox
The owl
The turtle
>Control
Monastery

There is only two ways this could end. I fail and fizzle away into nothing, or i succeed and go to change the world for the better.
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>>54497161
>White Pawn, Black Rook.

A lot of the Black powers are tempting, but Rook is the only one among both sets that grants immortality right out of the starting gate (barring a charitable reading of Black Queen or White Rook/Bishop preventing aging), and if I never get tired then task-farming should be much easier. The speed boost and being the Juggernaut are nice, but really more of a bonus. All this is predicated on the transformation being effortless to maintain, of course.

White is likewise appealing, but the Rook's safety aura might get boring unless you can learn to control what constitutes 'bad' and the King's scientific prowess is a bit vague. It could potentially be game-changing, but when it comes with a package of mental alterations I'm not willing to chance it. Pawn allows you to choose your upgrades and the benefits are extremely versatile, so slow and steady wins the race.
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>>54497294
b-b-but my spirit animal isn't on here... it's still pretty good though. I like it.
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>>54497161
White and Black Pawn.

I will now have myself and clones tasked at all the jobs I have and studies to improve myself quickly and effeciently rpg-style.
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>>54497559
>Pawn master race
I salute you for your amazing taste in chess related power choices
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>>54497161
White Rook and Black Pawn.
Tactically insert myself into the worst parts of the world, eliminating the worst of conflict. I guess my clones would magnify the global effect, right?
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Time for some shitpost CYOAs!
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>>54497161
How have cyoas affected your life?
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>>54497294
This should be useful in the lab.

>Spirits
Fox
Owl

>Control
Conquer

I would have picked monastery, but knowing my anti-social self, I would just hide the fact that I'm clearly going insane and attempt to ride it out.
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>>54497865
CYOAs have made my life insufferable, you wretched anon. How dare you ask me such a touchy question!

Kill me, please.
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>>54497865
Its reminded me I can be productive again when I set my mind to it, so thats nice.
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>>54497865
They haven't, really. Maybe my fantasies are a bit different, but I already had all the important parts down before.
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>>54497865
>Made me fap more
>Made me waste my time more
>Distracted me from previously enjoyed hobbies
Generally made my life worse overall.
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>>54497874
>>54497882
This

Cyoas do nothing but hurt you.
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>>54497865
It's my go to procrastination device.
So really, they haven't done anything.
I would have found something else to do that isn't what I should be doing.
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>>54497294
Phoenix, Owl, Monastery* (sp.)

Fun!

Attached is file 1/4 of the "final" Mentor, Lover, Rival, Friend. Final in the sense that I do not intend to add more, but will still consider fixes, and DLC is a definite possibility.

Let me know that in no circumstances will I do another companion CYOA of this magnitude, so if anyone wants to adopt the Lover/Mentor/Rival/Friend mechanic for any other setting, there is really no need to even ask, go for it!
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>>54497846
This cyoa is perfect in every way and I never knew it existed. I'm tearing up.
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>>54497911
>Let me know
*Let me say

File 2/4
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>>54497161
White King and Black Knight. I'll use my scientific knowledge to better the earth or mankind, and I'll use my Black Knight charisma and influence to go around convincing governments and voting populaces to adopt my discoveries into their energy or natural resource production or transportation etc etc. I-if they want, since manipulating would be wrong.

>>54497836
The mexican one is great anon. I become a magical chef in exchange for just some extra sleep? Sign me up

>>54497851
Communist doesn't sound so bad here. Never being able to own luxuries for myself is a small price to pay for wealthy businessmen suddenly becoming charitable to the world.
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>>54497921
(3/4)
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>>54497930
This one is a jpg cause I could not get the png small enough (gimp)
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>>54497911
What's new in this over that last pdf?
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>>54497911
So if you pick alchemy could you find a way to make permanent enchantments with rare enough material?

Whats the limit?
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>>54497946
One single typo. I just I know some people prefer the images, and there were no suggested changes to the pdf, so here they are.

>>54497964
Perhaps. Sorry, but this is not like Altering History; I'm not going to define the exact limits and features of abilities. That way madness lies. It's an imaginative exercise more than a game.
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>>54497964
>>54497980
I suppose I can add "I don't see why not" as my answer to your first question, though.
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>>54497980
Actually I had a question on Altering History.

Namely how does A Powered Companion work in a multiplayer game when you finish your quest(s)

Can you still remove the limiter on their power or is it still restricted
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Does anyone have the Berserk/Apostle CYOA?
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>>54497865
The false and pointless hope of one becoming real prevents my death, so i guess they improved my life.
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>>54497916
I'm glad you like it anon; at some point I've got a second roster of potential challengers to use in a variant. I'll get around to it on a slow weekend sometime.
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>>54497997
>Can you still remove the limiter on their power or is it still restricted
Er, it should really be restricted for a multiplayer game, because otherwise that can easily be a "instant win button". I hadn't thought of that, though, but will add that restriction into the next update. Thanks for bringing it up.
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>>54497980
Fair enough then i can delve deeper into the abyss that is science when making my build.

Thanks for the image version makes it easier for portable use.
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>>54497940
Would like to point out that this page seems to suffer from the expanding download bug (i.e. downloading the file results in increase to filesize, usually also making the file too large to post).

Here's a version of the page that has been downloaded and resized to fit the filesize limit again.
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>>54498065
np
>>54498081
Oh, weird; I didn't know that was a thing that could happen. But, tested it and you are absolutely correct. So, thanks.
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>>54497161

White pawn and black pawn, obviously. Can work on 7 things at once for rapid improvement and once we're swole we can start working together on hard tasks that dole out supernatural abilities. Even extremely dangerous jobs are fine since you can just have 1 person stay home and meme about on tg in case the rest of you die.

Should surpass any other choices fairly quickly.
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>>54497846
>wrong place, wrong time
The obvious manhwa backstory.

>Rundall Rex/ wrecking ball
I'd like a big bro and his fighting styles appeal to me.

>Thousand Rush Barrage (R)
A thousand wrecking ball punches!

>Special: secondary style

>Lynx
>Diamond King
>Styles
>Mordecai: lovely rival

Holy shit, if the second page fucks me over I'm going to cry.
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>>54497274
I fucking hate Tok for making this. The work he put into this could have easily made Eronomicon live up to the hype it got. He should stay out of /tg/ for everyone's benefit.
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>>54497274
What does it say about me that I'm much more bothered by the atrocious grammar than the faggotry or content?
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>>54498138
>I fucking hate Tok for making this. The work he put into this could have easily made Eronomicon live up to the hype it got. He should stay out of /tg/ for everyone's benefit.
I see, you choose "Work in The Salt Mines".
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I made the dlc.
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>>54498223
Bear with me while I post a series of images.
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>>54498210
Never understood this reasoning, "Wow Tok this is pretty dumb" doesn't equate as "HAHA u're so saltly lel"

I'm glad this gets less attention each time its posted though, it'll be just like that Thoth CYOA in a thread or two.
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>>54498210
It's funny that the only people who are actually salty about this are the ones who actually liked tok's trash.
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>>54498230
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>>54497846
>>54497864
>>54498136
>LYNX:
Power> her speed
Relentless> her instant kill
VICTORY

>DIAMOND KING
Power = his power
Relentless > his instant kill
VICTORY

>STYLES
Power < his tech
Relentless < his unstoppable
DEFEAT + 2 energy = VICTORY

>MORDECAI <3
Speed (2nd style) > his tech
Relentless > his instant kill
VICTORY

HOLY FUCKING SHIT
This never happens to me. Mystery boxes always fuck me over. Incredible. This was meant to be.

Reward: MASTER OF ALL YOU SURVEY

Mom, I'm home and I'm a Hidden Master now! I don't know what I'll do here but it's certain to be fun. I'm kidnapping Mordecai too. He's coming with me. <3
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>>54498248

>>54498233
It turned out the real salt was inside him all along.
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>>54498257
Good job! I'm sure you and Mordecai will be very happy together as the secret kung fu masters of your world.

>>54498259
>It turned out the real salt was inside him all along.
kek
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>>54498268
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>>54498138
>>54498233
Exactly, the amount of work he puts into this extended shitpost and how it seems he's trying to swing it in a way that makes it look like a big hilarious ruse by good 'ol Tok makes me think he's still desperately clawing for attention and refuses to recognize his autistic outburst as something that wasn't his fault. He'll eventually play it off as "Just an epic ruse and a fun game to help me relax for my next cyoa"

I might be wrong, I have no idea how the mind of autists work.
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>>54498279
>>54498268
>>54498259
>>54498248
>>54498230
>>54498223
what is the point of this cyoa, what are you even supposed to do
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>>54498279
So I included some worldbuilding snippets.
If you guys think that's cringey I'll crop 'em out.
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>>54498275
Do you happen to have sauce on Mordecai?
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>>54498245
I liked his fetish shit because he was one of the few authors of that stuff that catered to my specific interests.

Now I'll probably have to get off my ass and finish my personal /d/ CYOA.
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>>54498223
You changed the Third Eye description. So apart from knowledge, the only other thing you get from them is 'perspective'? I'm not sure what's going on from it now since it just seems like the familiar/sprite option now with vague differences.
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>>54498290
I don't understand the question.
You summon demons.
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>>54498295
>>54498295
From a Japanese (I think) mobile game called Gang Road/Joker by Applibot.
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>>54498292
Where do we get these star points from?
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>>54498303
That's because I changed Bound to Body to already give you their abilities.
It's important to note that familiars and sprites only give you their knowledge for the purpose of rituals.
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>>54498290

It has way too many pages so it must be good anon. Less is more or elegance thorugh simplicity are lies
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>>54498295
>>54498313
Forgot to add image
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>>54498305
why
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>>54498319
If it says + at the option it rewards you those points.
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>>54498223
So, l'm a retard and need a few things explained to me.

First, am I correct in understanding that each "ritual" is a combination of a specific demon and a specific vessel, and that you have to pay for each such combination that you want available? Like, if you pay for a tiger demon in a bottle, and also pay for a koala demon in a matchbox, you *cannot* then summon the tiger demon in a matchbox. Is that right?

Second, if I have a Muse in a Jar (which is just amazing as a concept), does that increase my effective power by 5 dots for each ritual? Like, can I use the jar for different rituals? Or do I need a different jar for every ritual which exceeds my power limit?
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>>54498324
Why do anything?
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>>54498020
Got you, senpai.
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>>54498292
I have no idea what Dark Mind means. You're deliberately giving yourself less ritual points for what? Researching fate sounds nebulous. And it says +*, but the description says you get 5 less? What?

Will you improve the formatting of the lore bit?
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>>54498335
>if you pay for a tiger demon in a bottle, and also pay for a koala demon in a matchbox, you *cannot* then summon the tiger demon in a matchbox. Is that right?
That is exactly right.

And no, you don't use up your jars in a ritual. You can shelf it and take it out again the next time you do a ritual.
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>>54498340
I con't say anything about the fate part, I'm not the author, but the star bit is you trading 5 ritual points for a star. You could trade it right back for 5 points, I suppose, but you could also spend it on things that require stars as a way of trading ritual power for other benefits.
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>>54498340
Ritual points =/= star points.
Read the text man.
Shade demonologists are the only ones that can convert ritual points back into star points, allowing them to give up power for more perks.
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>>54498355
Some of the descriptions for individual entities states that they're important for some aspect of the world. Does binding them prevent them from serving as the cornerstones as before, or is that only if you're dumb enough to get them killed?
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>>54498338
because you get something out of it
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>>54498377
If they get killed (or rather, if their vessel gets destroyed) they go back to their natural state. Only when bound are they limited in their effect on the world.
There's actually a special perk for djinn demonologists that lets them bind powerful spirits to a jar without causing too much devastation.
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>>54498403
>Only when bound are they limited in their effect on the world.
So, basically you're an asshole if you bind any of the "good" celestial spirits, no?
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>>54498292
So you'd need 16 stars to get back to the old level of power using this DLC. Are star point costs and bonuses cumulative with previous options? Like if I went Agent, would I get 2 or 3 stars?

Though either way I don't see an advantage to this update. If I went 'all in' on any particular origin and spirit combination, taking all the drawbacks, even with cumulative stars I'd be getting 4 or 7 from the highest origin (if Civilian Agent and Outlaw are stackable, you should clarify), and 4 stars from the highest spirit type (Celestial). So 11 with the loosest interpretation. Overall, that means the 16 necessary stars are completely unobtainable to get back to a good level of power like in the previous version. Beyond that, I'm also noticing that star bonuses are NOT equalized between the options, making it incredibly imbalanced.

Overall I don't see a point in this update, it's a gigantic nerf, cutting your ability in half and requiring extreme minmaxing to get near how it used to be (though it's impossible to actually get there.) It's all negatives with no positives, so I don't see why you wouldn't just use the first version.
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>>54498323
>>54498313
This game has really great art of both genders. That's pretty unusual. Any idea if the game is worth playing?
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>>54498292
The snippets are fine, I'd just reformat it some. The ratios of the page means that sideways scrolling is required. I'm not usually one to complain about this sort of thing, but the irregular formatting requires me to actively search for the lore bits, which is slightly annoying.

I'd suggest either making the lore more regularly formatted, or making the page thinner so it fits the screen horizontally.
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This is my first time and english is not my native language so be indulgent please

1/2
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>>54498389
In this cyoa you can summon demons to be your butlers, bodyguards, magical items, superpowers, pack animals, moving furniture, living space or gateway towards a higher understand, or to destroy the world.
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>>54498292
>This DLC makes soulmate viable
>Now i must choose between waifu or cosmic power via proxy
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>>54498422
So OC right?
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>>54498424
are there any cool things to get
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>>54498292
I demand a spin-off cyoa with martial heroes.
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>>54498425
Wouldn't say viable, it's still half points from the last version.
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>>54498443
>Not picking outlaw
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>>54498408
They're cumulative, I meant to include that but I forgot.
It's worth pointing out that choicing WITHIN games are towards the best outcome but choices OF games are not. Otherwise the only cyoa we'd ever play was the single image that just says "you become omnipotent".
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>>54498408
I agree with you on the imbalance between certain options, the nerf was made because the author felt that as it stood it didn't mesh with his artistic vision.

I suppose nothing prevents you from using the old version, but you can't fault the author from wanting to make a game that pleases him.

It seems that you are taking personal offense to the changes the author is making to his own work, that you feel that the author is taking away something that is rightfully yours. Why?
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>>54498450
See >>54498408 , out law is only 20 points. At post you can get back 55 points, which is still shy of the 80 you lost.

>>54498458
I don't consider having to minmax a good thing, dude. One of the points I made was that you need to minmax hardcore to even APPROACH what was lost in this version of the CYOA, which is a huge negative. Especially since, as I pointed out, none of the options are balanced against each other on the DLC page.

>>54498459
I see zero advantage or gain in this version of the CYOA, frankly. All it does is discourage actual variety and freedom of choice.
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>>54498292
Martial heroes > endbringers > demonologists

So we're cucks, ay.
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>>54498418
No idea unfortunately, but yeah there is a lot of great art in it. Applibot is pretty good like that, Legend of the Cryptids (fantasy stuff) and Chaos Drive (sci fi) hit a lot of the same theme; stupidly attractive guys and girls with crazy designs.
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>>54498422
>>54498441
Pretty good; I would suggest more minor skills, though. Like, 3 master skills (like you have) but 6 minor ones. Just a thought, cause there are so many skills that *all* assassins should have the basics of, such as "Stealth".
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>>54497305

Its fun, though you might want a proofreader. The word choice and grammar is a bit futzy; spelling-wise -


For Tiger:

Frighting -> Frightening


For Fox:

Slight of hand -> Sleight of hand


For Owl:

deciet -> deceit
experienceing -> experiencing

Also, Clairvoyance is generally the ability to see far away places - the ability to see the future is precognition.
For Phoenix:

Slimple -> Simple
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>>54498480
>ywn live in a world where everyone is attractive and life is one big orgy

Fuck. Now I'm depressed again.
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>>54498474
>Choose soulmate
>Choose outlaw
>Now you can get waifu with proper vessel and maybe have some leftover starpoints
>Engage in fucking around with the masquerade for funsies with your waifu
I would say it is viable
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>>54498477
From the lore, it seems that the circle is complete, that demonologists > martial heroes

I mean, sure, if you tangle with an endbringer ender you're probably dead, but same as if you tangles with an accomplished demonologist.

With a demonologist against a hero of similar skill, I'd say the demonologist has the advantage. They have magic, can coordinate their summons, and have the luxury of planning an attack where the heroes are ultimately reactionary forces against wild monsters.
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>>54498474
Yeah, there our visions clash.
I consider minmaxing the bread and butter of cyoas. It's all about advantages and trade-offs to me.
If there's a way to achieve ultimate power without trade-offs then that becomes the only viable choice and I don't like there only being one viable choice. I want everybody to have their own unique builds.
So I made it harder to go hardcore, this way it's more of a choice since some people are willing to make the sacrifice and others aren't. It says something about you what you chose and what you end up with can really be said to be yours.
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>>54498422
>>54498441

I like it! I'm already toying with a build with blood magic and bezerker as a minor power. I don't want to be the boss of the eversor assassins from 40k, but a 'cyanide pill' that causes a lot of collateral damage seems to be a useful tool in an assassin's belt.
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>>54498513
>I consider minmaxing the bread and butter of cyoas.
If my 'ultimate power' you mean the old point count, it's still not achievable.

That said, your minmaxing has created a situation where only one origin and spirit combination is really viable, so that's not a plus even if you like minmaxing. It creates a situation where other options might as well not exist, which is never a good thing for a CYOA.
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>>54497836
mexican only viable one
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>>54498422

Good job my man, I like it a lot

>Official Temple
>Path of the Mentor

Major Skills
>Master of Poisons
>Anatomical Knowledge
>Stealth

Minor Skills
>Patience
>Disguise
>Deadly Dancer

>Come By Yourself

>No One Knows

>Masked

I'm picturing something like the Morag Tong from Morrowind; legitimate but very much a part of the culture and only used in specific ways. Each master has a particular style and mine is all about the poisons, ideally delivered in a way that can't be traced (in a meal, hidden in a pillow, a thumb tack in a shoe) but if necessary by getting in close and stabbing in just the right spot.
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>>54498513
Also, there's not going to be more uniqueness. Less points means that people will have to be more stringent in getting what everyone wants, which hasn't changed with this update. So now they cut corners. They don't get the extra little bits and bobs that are effected by their personality. Instead it's just a straight shot to the necessities. Variety has died.
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>>54497294
It's pretty h*ckin' neat, anon!
I'm not brave enough to host more than one. Many if I could channel the braveness of a beagle I could take two.
>The Wolf
Only upsides.
Dragon is dang good too.
>Conquer
Only one that fits housing a badass wolf.
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>>54498512
Not seeing it. Hero ganks retarded demon fucker like its nothing.
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>>54498513
>I consider minmaxing the bread and butter of cyoas. It's all about advantages and trade-offs to me.

Same here, and I prefer the new version for that very reason. Having to sacrifice for higher tiers of power makes me more interested in the CYOA.
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>>54498422
Interesting cyoa... but who/who am I? Maybe you should add a small section about your own position within the guild.
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>>54498544
Well, I don't agree.
Maybe if you're of the mind that halo is the only thing worth having.
But the way I see it, the path towards summoning high levels was too cheap relative to the total point amount, now that stuff actually eats from your pool so staying low tier actually becomes viable.
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>>54497294
The Fox and the Phoenix

The Monastery
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>>54498582
Guessing you're only interested in Celestials, eh?

>>54498593
>Viable
In what sense? Against who? Certainly not in a direct comparison to high level builds. Certainly not within the setting itself. That's the thing you don't seem to get, there's no true advantage to staying low tier.
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>>54498422
>>54498441
>No Place to Rest
>The Path of the Mentor
>Major: Telepath, Observation / Deduction, Infiltration
>Minor: Illusionist, Patience, Stealth
> No Contact (The Disturbing Stranger, if you like)
> No One Knows
The cost depends on what the caller can afford.
> Common Clothes
Any commoner could be one of us, so the powerful best take caution.

The Order of The Scale is tasked with the elimination of those who would abuse the commonfolk. Traveling from town to town, they use their skills to observe and to learn, and to pass judgement if needed. If a target is deemed sufficiently vile, they are killed without fanfare and as quickly and painlessly as possible, preferably in their sleep.
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>>54498593
Also you seem to be ignoring the more generally applicable complaint of imbalance between origins and spirits presented in the DLC.
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>>54498223
Point total arguments aside:
If I learn the ritual for, say, Jar + Bog Fairy, this allows me to drain up to 5 dots in power from the fairy. Am I restricted to the 2 dots that the Bog Fairy has, or do I get extra dots because I don't really care about the fairy's health?

Asking because I want to make an occultist build, but there aren't very many Power - demons that I can summon, so I need to figure out how many jars I'm going to need to make.
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>>54498422
Location
-Lost in the Nature

Recruitment
-Educated as a killer

Skills
Major
-Sharpshooter
-Observation/Deduction
-Infiltration
Minor
-Deadly Dancer
-Anatomical Knowledge
-Tracking.

Contact
-Meeting Points

Price
-Expensive Contract

Uniform
-Masked
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>>54498606
If you go high tier you're breaking rules, getting the wizard cops on your back and not keeping a lot of points for personal protection.
If you go low tier you get to be part of society, choose a variety of different minions and generally be better off. The only drawback is that you you don't get to play around with gods, but gods only end up in a very limited variety of vessels anyway so I'm okay with people going for that.
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>>54498628
You can't drain more than the demon has. The idea is that you add their power to your own, but not more of it than 5.
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>>54498658
>If you go high tier you're breaking rules, getting the wizard cops on your back and not keeping a lot of points for personal protection.
Personal protection doesn't matter when we're talking demons. Also, that's only if you take Outlaw, which is mandatory for minmaxing but not necessarily so. You can shoot straight to high tier without it. Oh, and problem with your 'variety' argument is that there's never any impetus for having a variety over one big demon.
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>>54498658
Why would I waste one time only points on mundane life when I can just earn that later?
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>>54498675
Got it, thank you.

Also, narratively speaking, I'm assuming it's possible for Diabolists to learn new rituals over time? So a diabolist could theoretically learn more rituals as time went on, even if they don't get those rituals during the CYOA? Or is should we be approaching this from the point of view that "No, this is all you get, ever"?
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>>54497846
Waifu Wish
It's the only way I'll truly have someone who completes me.
Mentor
Andrea Winters
64 Stances
She's kind but she'll never replace my waifu! Also she likes chess too much and calls me a bum for skipping repeat training when she knows the new anime season is coming out.
>Instant Kill: Thunder Hurricane Breaker
With the thunderous boom in my heart beating with my every desire, I will have my Waifu!
>Perk
Extra Energy
>Challengers
Levi Than
Lisia Rush
Cally Lynx
Maximus Styles
>Rival
Friendly Rival
Levi Than
He is the only man of culture in this god forsaken tournament. While only one of us can truly claim our waifu wish, I could not choose a better person to challenge me and push each other to our best.

Lets see how I do.
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>>54498658
Except a third eye x tier 6/7/8/9 is still the best build. You're not risking anything and you get insane powers. Ymir's Mind turns you into the greatest wizard to ever live. King Winter turns you into fae royalty with an army at your command. Etc. There's no point in spending points on a squadron of low tier minions when vesseling certain demons gives you access to an army or to the ability to create your own demons.
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>>54498687
>Also, that's only if you take Outlaw, which is mandatory for minmaxing but not necessarily so.
>Implying that wizard cops will let you fuck around without consequence if you don't take outlaw
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>>54498422
Boku no Assasin Guild

>Headquarters
Secret Base
God, do I want the island. But logistics.

>Recruitment
Path of the Mentor.
Less lethal, more hands on. After briefly watching HxH, I'm wary of overpowered psychos ending up in my midst, so Test and probably Journey are out.

>Skills
Major- Master of Poisons, Stealth, Anatomical Knowledge
Minor- Seducer, Observation/Deduction, Living Sword

These will be my specialities as Guild Master, therefore the mainstays of our first recruits. However, I expect versatility and adaption from all my colleagues. If they wish to give up sword for bow or poison for illusion, that's perfectly fine.

>Contact
Meeting Points
As entertaining as Stranger is, I don't want to devote the time of my members to walking around doing that shit

>Price
No One Knows
Keeps it variable. A evil king will pay a fortune for the death of a noble, while the common man seeking to eliminate a brutal drug lord will only be asked for a trifle. This gives my assassins some leeway, hopefully to not be abused

>Uniform
No Official Uniform
I'll be wearing lightweight leather armor myself, at least for combat. This isn't Discworld, why would we want to be recognized?
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>>54498791
That applies to any build, higher tiers just have more ways they can choose to fuck around.
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>>54498223
Alright, here's my revised Shade Demonologist build. Since the last section says that you just shouldn't end up with a negative amount of * points and Bloodline's options all seem to lead up to the Monster option paying off all the previous options in its "tree", I'll assume it's fine to spend * points you don't have so long as the end result is 0 or +. The General options are incompatible with one another, correct?

Shame that Shades are the only demon family without any drawbacks for gaining * points.

Background: Bloodline
Family: Shades

Summons:
>Shoulder Sprite (Tier 2) * Nicolas (Tier 7) = 14
>Jar (Tier 3) * Ghoul (Tier 2) = 6
>Jar (Tier 3) * Ghoul (Tier 2) = 6
Gain 6 power.
>Third Eye (Tier 6) * Monarch (Tier 9) = 54
I choose to take up the Monarch's ability for infinite parallel thought processes.

Bloodline Fate: Cambion, Abhuman, Monster

With the Monarch's knowledge, I'll be able to progress quickly in my research on demonology. I'll still be aiming to try and one day become a powerful demon in my own right, but now I'll try and establish my family as a powerful force in whatever magical community we're in. Maybe my own cult in the future one day.

>>54498658
>>54498731
Yeah, Third Eye is the only way to increase your knowledge immediately (assuming it increases over time with research, like the occultists do) while familiars/sprites only help out with rituals and don't contribute to your own knowledge stat.

And going by the Occultist background, your knowledge leads to gaining ritual points, to put it into the framework of the CYOA. You'd accrue more power quickly from binding a demon with high knowledge into a Third Eye.

Besides that, you're not breaking any rules so long as you don't mess with the masquerade. A Third Eye vessel is a high enough tier vessel to not cause horrible problems to the world and, so long as you don't fuck around with the muggle civilizations, you're just an independent researcher of the dark arts.
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>>54498422
>they can learn approximately everything about him, his life and his past.
>approximately everything
Bruh.
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>>54498422
Location: Secret Base
Recruitment: Educated as a Killer

Major Skills:
Anatomical Knowledge
Disguise
Stealth

Minor Skills:
Infiltration
Supreme Agility
Telepath

Contact: The Disturbing Stranger

Price: Expensive Contract

Uniform: No Official Uniform

We do not exist. We do not meet. We have a little school, armory and a few rooms hidden in the walls between houses. We know when we are needed, and usually awaken the client in their own room to clarify our contract. Our victims usually die from heart attacks or respiratory arrest, and nothing but a bruise shows our involvement. Could have happened when the victim fell. Are we a mere myth? Do we exist? Can you pay the price?

And I agree with the other anon, more minor skills are needed.
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>>54497846
Randomly determining my challengers for this run

>Wrong Place, Wrong Time
Got drunk, walked down the wrong street on the way home, could have happened to anyone.
>Vincent Cruise
Saved from getting shanked in an alley after fighting off thugs by a burly mechanic who took me home to give me a hot meal and place to crash, then when I'd sobered up offered to teach me a few moves.
>Counter Engine
Just sounds good
>Rising Shadow Cross (Instant Kill)
A move that puts me into the enemies blindspot and follows up with a devastating punch.
>Secret Techinque: Thunder Fire Driver (Unstoppable)
A modified Michinoku driver.

After some random dice rolls, my opponents in order are:
>Maximus Styles
>Emily Endow
>Detective Ryo
>Mordecai Grant
Seems like an interesting mix.

>Love Rival
Mordecai and I hit it off as pals pretty early on in the prelims while waiting between matches, but we're both immediately smitten by Emily and agree that whoever wins gets first chance at asking her out.

Lets see how I do!
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>>54498422
>>54498903
Very good work though, very enjoyable. You should be proud of your first work.
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>>54498928
>>54497864

>VS Maximus Styles
Our fighting skills are about even, but the Rising Shadow Cross shuts him down before he can land the Flayva Town Smackdown. Victory!
>VS Emily Endow
Cute and surprisingly busty and extra surprisingly powerful as Emily is, I have an answer for all of her moves; another victory. I'll resist the urge to flirt with her now with mixed success.
>VS Detective Ryo
The good cop kicks the shit out of me, I can't match his speed or aggression. I'm forced to bust out the Thunder Fire Driver to put him down, but even that leaves me drained and damaged. (Draw, -1 Energy, Secret Tech used)
>FINAL ROUND: VS Mordecai Grant
As it turns out my rival and I are matched move for move and technique for technique, with his Near Death Experience clashing with my Rising Shadow Cross. It ends in one of those anime scenes where both fighters are standing, then after a long pause one falls; this time, it happens to be him. (Draw, -1 Energy)

Victory!

With no hard feelings to Mordecai for a good, hard fight, I claim my reward; the title of Hidden Master.
>Master of All You Survey

Maybe now I can try that flirting with Emily?
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>>54498223
So where do you go from here?
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>>54499047
Pretty sweet, all-in-all. Also, you have excellent taste.
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>>54497294
>>54497305
Dragon and conquer. Easy choice.
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>>54498223
If you have zero intrinsic power and you use third eye on something, does it count as a tier 6 vessel or a tier 1 vessel because that's how bound to body works?
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>>54499127
>Also, you have excellent taste

Thank you! It was a fun run, too.
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>>54499242
Seems like he's left entirely.
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>>54498731
>>54498850
>Third eye
>Damning yourself to identity death
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>>54499466
Nah, that's Halo where you literally just become an extension of the demon. Third Eye is a merge with you as the base personality.
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>>54499496
A merge is still altering your personality, is the thing. Turning you partway into the demon. It's identity death all the same, even if it's not a complete replacement like halo.
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>>54499525
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Ship of Theseus, blah. Don't bother. You personality death anons are so easily discomforted.
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>>54499496
>>54499525
Halo doesn't replace your mind, nor does it merge it with anything. Your body becomes a part of the demon in question, but you're still a free agent. You've just essentially become a third arm of that demon that has a mind of its own and does what it wants.
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OC
are you ready for your "gifts"?
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>>54497235
>>54497246
>>54497263
>>54497274
OC! The quest continues!
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>>54499552
Ship of Theseus is more about a replacement of parts with identical parts. This is more like, removing half a ship then attaching half of another ship.

>>54499567
How does that work if you die?
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>>54499631
A person with a halo dying is basically that demon getting its weird extra arm incinerated.
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>>54499242
You mean for world-warping effects.
I don't know. You do get the mindmelt, so let's go for the most favorable interpretation and say it counts as Tier 6.
>>54498419
I took the advice.
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>>54499552
Anon, what if the demon was really gay and now you like dicks or something? There's a lot of reasons not to want a demon changing your personality.
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>>54499623
>worshiping SDA's feet
>not the butt
You failed me.
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>>54499700
An I forgot to say costs and bonuses are cumulative AGAIN.
>>54499726
You make a convincing argument. Demons are famously into some freaky stuff.
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>>54499613

>Laser

>Fictional Universe (Pokemon, the anime version if I have to choose)

>Shock Suit
>Hypernet
>AI Companion

Awaiting the mystery box.
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>>54499613
>Multipurpose laser tool
*Pew pew*
>Fictional universe
I can fuck off to my favorite CYOA? Yes please.
>Nanobots
I am doing this for the regeneration, is not like i want to be the little girl or anything.
>Gold
Boring but useful for a good start there.

>Open mystery box 6
What box?
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>>54499623
But why though?
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>>54499623
Wait? Is ZBG actually considered a shitposter? I thought they were pretty cool.
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>>54499774
>>54499789
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>>54499613
where's the mystery boxes?
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>>54499567
So Halo's always a better deal unless you hate yourself?
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>>54499823
i'm posting the mystery boxes as they're needed. i don't want people the cheat.
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>>54499800
He can be annoying, but he's not real an intentional shitposter.

Also
>responding to tok
lets all try to be better than that
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>>54499827
That's just that guy's interpretation of 'becoming a conduit'. I think it's meant to be the same concept at third eye only emphasizing that their power is flowing into you.
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>>54499623
Still continues to shitpost and extend his childish tantrum instead of apologizing for being autistic and using the 5 CYOAs worth of time creating another CYOA to make up for Eronomicon.

I never realised the attention of nameless people on the internet was so vital for TokHaar. How embarrassing.
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>>54499806
>dropped into a pokemon warzone with a laser gun, tech armor and AI

Neat!
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>>54499613
Modular Shotgun
Robot Maid-
>let me guess she has a penis
Hypernet
AI Companion
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>>54499864
Don't reply to him my man, just let him wither away.
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>want to own a megacorporation
>only megacorporation cyoa makes my bwain huwt
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>>54497865
It gave me enough inspiration to make a mecha CYOA, and then used concepts from the unfinished version of that for a mecha adaptation of a tabletop system I'm making, and the data from that helped the original tabletop system.

>>54497846
>Wrong Place, Wrong Time
Take this ride, and see where it can lead you! That's life, innit?

>Andrea Winters
She's uh, a real fast type, yeah. That's why I went with her. And not because she's my type.
>Knight's Gambit
Overcome the opponent, in the blink of an eye!

>RAAAISINGU
>BASUTO
>BREAAAAAKAAAAH!
A Relentless move! I'll fake them out with a right, then start with my left! I have to trick them out as I put out the full power of the Knight's Gambit!

>Extra Energy
I'm can't say I'm anything that special, but if I can put my everything into it, I have to win!

Preliminary
>Mordecai Grant
Quarterfinal
>Lisia Rush
Semifinal
>Cally Lynx (Friendly Rival)
Final Round
>Diamond King
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>>54499861
So halo also replaces your personality?
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>>54499864
I don't care that he isn't making cyoas. But if he's going to post in the thread it might as well be something productive.
Maybe he could make a build for something. Or maybe he could get into an argument about minmaxing.
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>>54499762
Is it illegal to summon demons exclusively to make exotic cuisine?
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>>54499700
> You mean for world-warping effects.
I meant more for the percentage of their power that you can use. Bound to body says that the percentage of the demon's power that the host can used is based on your intrinsic power, and that if you have none it counts as a tier 1 vessel. So if a zero intrinsic power person (like, say, an occultist) uses third eye on a tier 6 demon, do they get most of the demon's power because third eye is officially a tier 6 vessel, or do they get very little because they have no intrinsic power and thus count as a tier 1 vessel?
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>>54499880
won't water types be super effective against you tho?
>>54499891
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>>54499904
You wouldn't be able to run a megacorp. It's better this way.
Go play with your waifus.
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>>54499931
>won't water types be super effective against you tho?

Lets hope they're weak to laser
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>>54499623
>>54499750
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>>54499827
Halo is restricted to celestials. For non-celestials to use it, they need to take the worldbuilding traits letting them take a second family and the one in the celestial category that lets you use any vessel.
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>>54499789
i just realised you picked one too many gifts
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>>54499922
A third eye isn't designed for combat as much as something like a dragon. It's explicedly a tool for getting knowledge.
So yeah, that's the way I'd like to think about it. Like Bound to Body but with mind melting. There's no room to include it so it'll forever have some leeway for interpretation by the reader though.
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>>54499933
Almost anyone can run a megacorporation. Have some connections and hire the right people. You're literally too big to fail. Worst case scenario you just delegate everything and throw money in the government's direction until they tilt the market in your favour.
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>>54499966
I see. I guess Celestial is the only class of demon that doesn't kill you with higher tier vessels.
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>>54499966
Surely if you've taken celestials as your second family you don't need to take extra vessels anymore.
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>>54498292
please do an eldritch dlc, demonology-sama
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>>54499623
Is Tok Making these?
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>>54499806
>Get dropped in a warzone
>Side with the faction that i like
>Probably get fucked up enough in the process that i become the little girl
>Get hailed as an mysterious hero and use my fame and gold to live the comfy life
Huh, it went better than i expected.
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>>54499997
Ah fuck i will remove the gold then
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>>54499854
I mostly only responded just to ask about ZBG, but fair enough I suppose.
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>>54498292
Ignore >>54500043

A martial heroes dlc is better!
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>>54500053
They're his sputtering death throes. Just pay him no attention.
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>>54498422
>Isolated Island
sounds fairly secure
>Path of the Mentor
Diversify those methods, so know one can expect you. It's also the least likely to produce insane people, which is a plus.

Major Skills:
>Observation/Deduction
>Tracking
>Infiltration
Minor Skills
>Illusionist
>Disguise
>Stealth
Being a great fighter would be cool and all, but that's not the #1 priority of an assassin, y'know? Anyone can kill a man, it's doing it unseen and uncaught that's the trick.

>Meeting Points
It gets the clients to come to us, rather than the other way around.
>No One Knows
Sometimes we need cash right away, other times they may own something they could never know the true value of, and other times we agree that the target is a dick. It's all about context.
>No Official Uniform
Why the fuck would assassins wear something that instantly marks them as assassins? That lets people know you're coming!

Anyway, I figure the best way to go is to train up assassins with a solid base of skills that're useful for the stuff, and let them fill in the blanks with their own preferences and experiences. That should create a decent toolbox of various kinds of killers for various kinds of targets. Should keep people on their toes, at least.
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>>54499613
Laser because I doubt my proficiency with a shotgun and the pistol is described as even more beyond my means.

AI Companion that'll be my friendo and my equal and my advisor on all this stuff since apparently she's from this timeline/universe.

Robo maid because robots are really cool and I want to see if it want to be friends or if it's advanced enough to do that. Plus it's hard for me to resist mystery boxes.
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>>54500029
You can normally only stick a celestial in a halo. You need to get the perk that lets you put anything in any vessel regardless of family. But to get that you need to have celestial as a family first. So in order to put non-celestials in a halo you need to both have access to two families and have the celestial perk that lets you use vessels regardless of family.
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>>54499905
>spoiler
Have a spare art of her I didn't find a place for.
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>>54499623
>>54499750
>>54499940
New version, mistakes were made.


Changelog
>You will no longer worship SDA's feet, instead you will worship SDA's butt.
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>>54500053
They're in his google drive, so yes.
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>>54500103
i already posted the mystery box here >>54499931
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>>54499905
>>54497864
Preliminaries: Mordecai Grant
R-Type > I-Type
Speed > Technique
Flawless Victory! So this is the power of the Knight's Gambit... I have to keep going!

Quarterfinals: Lisia Rush
R-Type = R-Type
Speed > Technique
Victory! Sorry, miss, but the Knight's Gambit is the style to beat all styles!

Semifinals: Cally Lynx
R-Type > I-Type
Speed = Speed
Victory! Er, sorry, Cally. I... have to win this one.

Final Round: Diamond King
R-Type > I-Type
Speed < Power
I won't settle for a stalemate! Here's my ultimate technique: Final Buster Ascension!

I... won? Alright! Thank you, Andrea... Without you, I'm not sure how I'd end up. But I think it wouldn't be as cool as this.

>Master of All You Survey
I'll stay home. I want to make sure everything is alright here. Besides, I'd like to er... stay with Andrea. And not only that, but see what I can give to the world! I need to consider...
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>>54500114
If only you'd taken criticism this well before this all started.
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>>54498223
Method: Occultist
+100 Ritual Points
+0 Intrinsic Power
+5 Knowledge

Family: Celestials

Demon #1: Cherub in a Jar (-12)
+3 Power

Demon #2: Chariot in a Jar (-9)
+4 Power

Demon #3: Archon in a Jar (-12)
+5 Power

67 Ritual Points
12 Power
5 Knowledge

Demon #4: The Space Hulk as a Familiar (-12)
Swap to 8 Knowledge

55 Ritual Points
12 Power
8 Knowledge

Demon #5: Ouranos in a Halo (-60)
Swap to 10 Intrinsic Power
Swap to 10 Knowledge

-5 Ritual Points
22 Power
10 Knowledge

Worldbuilding
- Civilian (+5)

0 Ritual Points

> Damnit, some random muggle just put the universe in a halo!
> What the fuck do we do now?!
> Wait, if he put the entire universe in a halo, does that mean we're in that halo?
> Does that mean he's in his own halo?
> Is that halo inside itself?
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>>54497204
I haven't been able to make threads because I got banned for two weeks for insulting SDA. Don't anger Angel. Any good cyoas that I missed?
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>>54499613

>Laser tool:
That one IS perfect. Need no actual ammo, don't need to actually license it, no recoil, practically untraceable for the next 20 or so years.

>Robot Maid:
I'm already certain 'order 89' is going to turn out way way waaaaaay worse than it sounds, but I'm a /d/eviant so as long as it's some form of sex as actually advertised I should be able to deal. I'll keep the laser gun on hand in case it's a kill-order or some shit.

>Hypernet

The robot maid already IS an AI companion, making it redundant (and kind of less useful even) Shocksuit is kind of useless if I can't sweat in it. I can probably make way more than 1 million usd or however much a pocketful of gold amounts to just by lurking the hypernet and plagiarizing it's content. If it pulls information from the future all the better.
What happened to mystery boxes 1 and 4?
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>>54500106
1. Be Shade occultist. You now have Access to Chernabog.
2. Take Multi-Discipline. Choose Celestial. You now have access to Halo.
3. Combine Halo and Chernabog.
4. You now have a non-celestial in a halo.

Wisdom of Ouranos is for getting a Seraph in a Druidic garden or Oculus in an artefact.
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>>54500168
> put the universe in a halo
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>>54497246
The fact that Wendy is the most unpopular one proves that everyone in /cyoag/ and /dyoag/ has garbage taste
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>>54500122
Anon! I didn't try to have sex with my new friendo, that would be very irresponsible, how do I even know if robots can consent? I'd much rathe-
>bondage
oh, wait what was the command again? 89? Let's just ah..try it and see what happens.
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>>54498223
Could I surgically give myself a second brain and fuse third eye to that to avoid personality death?
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>>54497294
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>>54500088
he's a resourceful fellow

i'm sure he can accomplish both and more if he really wants :D
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>>54500199
here's your mystery box >>54499931
mystery box 1 is a secret.
mystery boxes 3 and 4 are alternate orders for the maid.
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>>54500235
>Implying anyone with a spirit animal isn't just talking up their fursona
Don't be racially exclusive.
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>>54500088
Make the martial heroes DLC PVP so you can go instantly kill all those demonologist anon's builds.
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>>54498422
>Isolated Island
An island in a demiplane that floats between worlds.

>Blood Magic
Recruits are gathered from all across the multiverse to be bathed in blood and join their siblings in their task.

> Major skills: deadly dancer, infiltration, supreme agility
> Minor slills: a blade in the mist , seduction, dimensional gate
They are called the Children of Blood and Fog. They work between worlds, infiltrating and seducing their way to their targets. Then they strike amd their target dies. They return to the island through a gate opened with the blood of their victim.

>>54498441
>The Ritual Call
A ritual of spilled blood shared only in whispers.

>No One Knows
They ask for what the island needs.

>No official uniform
They dress as they please.
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>>54499613
Express Pistol
Fictional Universe (Dresden Files)
Nanobots
Custom Trip
Hypernet
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>>54500242
>Mystery box 1 is a secret
if i pick it can you reveal it to me?
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>>54500199
>>54499613
>>54500242


Oh... Wait 'alternate orders' gives me an idea.

Can't I look up the maid instruction manual on the hypernet?
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>>54500258
>Not training hard to become both
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>>54500088
>>54500043
I have an idea. I'm going to open-source this mofo.
Y'all know how paint.net Hue and Saturaion works?
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>>54497235
>Your choice
I quit!

>New adventure
Something important! (Work, marry a special someone)

>companions
Two (2) Zynthias!

>Drawbacks
Normie!
Animu apocalypse! (I don't watch anime anyways)
CYOA uprising! (I have Zynthias it's okay)
Worse than death!

6 Zynthias!

>>54497246
>Tok missing, find them?
Challenge accepted!

>Fellowship
The guardian!
Zilly! (Zynthia owes me one for sister-sitting)
Lucy!

>Weapon
Critique!
(Side note; this is not the end of my adventure!)

>>54497263
>Discover Warf?
Butt-maid! (I already love butt sex so an addiction is OK)
(I'll slither it's okay)

>Dwarf girl
Bitch face & Thunder Thighs!

>Cock ring
Binding! I must stop him!

>>54497274
>tavern girl
Let it happen! Humiliate me!

>work
Tavern whore! Only clean dicks!
Crush it!

>What to do now
Reject reality!

>>54499623
SDA! (Feet are OK)

>Ability
CYOA crafting!

>Whore
Cheerleader! Maybe she has enough energy to fuck me instead!
Traps are OK!
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>>54500299
No.
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>>54500299
The fond is Sitka Banner
>>54500233
Sure.
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>>54500304
You clich Hue and Saturation in the top bar.
Then you slide the Hue bar until it becomes the colour you want.
Great for turning She-hulk into a black woman.
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>>54500294
no because game balance
>>54500283
no, it's not particularly interesting anyway
>>54500280
here's your mystery box
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>>54500215
The halo seems to be more of a conduit than a vessel for a summon's power so you are not really harming too much.
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>>54499613
>I want to be hypernet famous.
do it yourself faggot
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>>54500215
Would you put the whole world in a bottle?
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>>54500299
So you're saying someone could add an entire family of yaoi and yaoi-related demons?
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>>54500323
i should specify that this is for the custom trip.
fantasy universe is here >>54499806
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>>54498223
Do different demon types get along with each other or is it full gang warfare?
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>>54500335
Please shoot yourself. If guns are not legal in your country, find a good rope and hang yourself instead.
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>>54500155
claim your reward: >>54500112
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>>54500362
It's too late I'm already planning the family. The only problem is that I don't want to infringe on Djinn territory. Still, an entire family based around the concept of love and heart's desires (with a focus on yaoi and yuri) should be posdible!

Is Cupids too silly a name?
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>>54500166
I like to believe that it's a way for Tok to cope. whether he just disrepresents the criticim he got as actual butthurt to feel good before going away, wants to go out with some interesting, original reminder left (and say what you will, it is pretty original for CYOA author to leave parting, sizeable shitpost CYOA) or he actually was able to suck it up, grow a pair and now just makes fun of the whole thing blygoing back to norm - it's fun. Horribly written bu entertaining. So, thanks.

>>54500194
5 ucks says it's not that you insulted some CYOA author that got you banned, but going too far with the insults themselves (or having them as some low-effort boring shitfest level and getting reported)
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>>54497161

White King, Black Queen

Become a cute grill and catapult society into space.
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>>54498223
>Contract
>Troll
Have Boudicca as my patron. (Cult)
>The abominable snowman as a dragon (35)
>Wisdom as a Shoulder Sprite (19)
It's not as bad as it sounds. I'll dismiss him when I'm not doing summoning.
>Bora as a possesion (1)
Because we share a fetish.
I have points left over for Bron in a lightning rod (with my star points), but that's probably bad juju. so instead I'll go for
>Gargoyle in a construct. (-5)
It'll be a doggie and it will be adorable.
>>54499762
>Elder (-1 *)
>Cult (+1 *)
>Convert star points. (0)
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>>54500350
You could probably find some individuals that like each other. But as a group they're bitter enemies.
>>54500429
Any more fanworlds on the way?
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>>54497294
>Spirits
Tiger, Wolf, Owl, Turtle

>Control
Conquer

I am the master of my own. These beasts shall bend to me and see me as master, and then the fun begins.
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>>54500307
Which font size did you use though?
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>>54500555
48, 20 and 14
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>>54500518
I'm in the process making one, it will be a big expansion but don't count on it!
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>>54497225
What other cyoa did you make?
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>>54500610
>don't count on it!
Did you mean to say "don't hold your breath!"?
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>>54498223
Wish Jar seems really underwhelming, unless it's meant to also function as a Jar (granting you extra power). Is that the case?
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>>54500691
yes, it's a jar plus an extra benefit. Two extra benefits if you take the worldbuilding perk for it.
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>>54497846
>Wrong place, wrong time
The only one that makes sense.
>Andrea Winters
Sounds nice to have an enthusiastic teacher. Also that she's way too caring.
>64 Stances style (Tech, beats Power)
Knight's Gambit fits me better but it gets wrecked by power.

Going with an unstoppable attack since I'm weak to Speed.
>Thunder Charge Barrage (Unstoppable, beats Relentless)

>Extra energy (4)
Yeah I don't consent to a battle to the death.
>Emily Endow
She dresses like a slut and has a tramp stamp. She's going down
>Lisia Rush
Same reason
>Cally Lynx
Kinda bad she has Speed.
>Donna Fence
Probably has Strength which I can counter. Taking her last because I'd be okay losing to her with her personality.

>Friendly rival: Donna Fence
Some great motivation to get to the final
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>>54500645
Yeah.
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>>54497865
They fill my head with imaginative possibilities before I go to sleep, replacing the usually boring or stressful thoughts I'd have about going to work in the morning. Hypothetical situations are fun to play with. -- How often does someone play with the idea that they could have a world to themselves? That they could be a king?

Just like anything else, it's fine if you don't over indulge. Like potato chips or chocolate. It's just a passing flavor to indulge you a little.
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>>54500731
>Tech (beats Power)
>Unstoppable (beats Relentless)
>Emily
>Lisia
>Cally
>Donna
Win and draw with Emily, advance to next round.
Draw and win with Lisia, advance to next round
Loss and loss with Cally, spend 2 energy to advance (2 left)
Draw and loss with Donna, spend 1 energy to win (1 left)
Well that was easy!
I don't really want any of these rewards so taking the money
>Wealth
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>>54500745
Can you give us a taste?
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>>54498223
>Contract (tier 5/6 demon, 60 points)
Basically Soulmate but get more points.
>Celestials
I would like to not be wrecked by magic. I automatically stroke my waifu's ego when I ask her for powers.
>Bound to body (tier 1)
Posession does the same thing and gives an extra dot, but cost 2xTier of demon

There's not really any I want, especially since there's no lore. There's no challenge or goal to work towards making your choices pointless. Picking
>Venus
because why not.
Okay what do I spend the points on?
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>>54497246
We could have had it all, but you had to chase Tok away, YOU MANIACS!
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>>54497865
I spend very little time "playing" CYOAs. When I have bursts of *working* on CYOAs, it's generally time I would have spent on planning out D&D campaigns, or playing video games, so it's really not a net change in my quality of life. My players get less intricate campaigns, but people get to enjoy CYOAs, so it works out.
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>>54500299
>>54500307
i'm sure i'll figure it out

it just seemed to me like lovecraftian forces residing outside known existence would've fit the cyoa nicely

lorewise, should I run this by you how to fit them into your power schism. it seems to me they could be a comparative neutral given their extradimensionalness. heh

this is sorta why I wanted to pass the idea off to you so you could make it fit how you'd like, but i'll figure something out. I may accidentally make a whole new cyoa. lol
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>>54500307
>Sitka Banner

Shit. Why did you use such an obscure font? I don't think I can even use it on Windows 7...
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>>54500895
Sorry, but it's still in writing phase but here is the world that i'm working on:
- Worm (30%)
- Xian (5%)
- Shen-Bu-Mi (10%)
- Ecosystem-12 (3%)
- Nowhere (3%)
- Bevin lv2 (1%)
>>
Any etiquette for posting new CYOAs? I just emerged from my eons-long lurk to throw one together and thought I'd share it before returning to the void, but I might want to wait until new thread or something?
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>>54500977
You don't get to use a lot of powers if you're a contract demonologist with a demon bound to your body.
You seriously can't come up with anything you want? Your life is perfect?
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>>54501125
No. Post it now.
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>>54501112
I have no idea what you're trying to say with this list.
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>>54501125
Thread is still bumping, so now should be fine.
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>>54498339
I literally don't know what's going on. Apparently everything is edgy?
There's no one important to you so the only thing I can pick is
>Yourself
"Your death is now inevitable" so nothing has changed?
>Glory
That or war. The rest are edgy or awful.
>Aspect of Virtue
>Titanic
Doesn't really matter since I don't plan to use it.
>Partial incarnation, sorcery, enhanced regeneration, inspiring presence
There's nothing else I want or need
I don't want any Apostle spawn that's awful and edgy.

So I assume I'm not on Earth but I have no clue what Berserker is so I don't know what to do now.
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>>54501141
OK.
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>>54500166
>criticism
pic related
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>>54500166
His Thoth persona is much more amicable.
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>>54501199
Text for the teachers is really hard to read, unfortunately. It should be on a solid background if it's going to be so small.
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>>54501199
Had a little problem with my file size...
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>>54497294
Dragon
Turtle
Fox

Conquer

Monastery might have been a better choice, but whatever, except for dragon I figure I may be able to get along with the spirits and reach some agreement with them rather than complete control. Fox and Turtle seem pretty chill.

You should probably remove or change the pills option, as it's terrible and I doubt anyone is going to take it.
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>>54501253

>>54501236
Sorry, I'd offer to fix it but I made this sucker in paint so I'd have to retype everything :(
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>>54498422
>No place to rest
>The path of the mentor
>Major: Sharpshooter, disguise, stealth
>Minor: Infiltration, pain tolerance, patience
Last two to not break from torture
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>>54501273
And we're done.
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>>54499623
This might be one of the best things I have ever seen on here.
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>>54501199
How many delinquents in this highschool?
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>>54501160
- Worm is the world based on worm by wildbow, i'm not sure it is allowable though.
- Xian is the world based on chinese literature where knowledge can be manifested into dao.
- Shen-Bu-Mi is the board game world made by bored conduit, modeled from games like risk and chest, also earthbending.
- Ecosystem-12 is the digital world filled with monster but with pokemon system. Computer theme and lingo are more pronounced here.
- Nowhere is the place inbetween of the worlds where concept defines everything.
- Bevin lv2: The secret of ancient conduits to upgrade Bevin, infusing it with the essence of the world you aligned with. It's simply time-stop chill zone/god of comfort style customizable Bevin.
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>>54501199
Do you need to pick six *different* teachers, or can you pick, for example, Keziah for both Math and Theology?
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>>54501308
As many as my sleep-deprived brain threw in there. So probably way too many. Enjoy!
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>>54501335
I'd meant it to be six different teachers but I probably should have included another 6 options for that to be fair. Hindsight is 20/20 frankly I made a ton of mistakes in how I went about this.
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>>54501214
don't doxx me
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>>54499623
>MFW I get featured in a CYOA made by Tok

Thanks Tok but I rather you fix eronomicon or make a CYOA that isn't a shitpost.
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>>54498422
Location:
>Lost in the Nature

Recruitment:
>Initiatory Journey

Major Skills:
>Deadly Dancer
>Living Sword
>Supreme Agility

Minor Skills:
>Tracking
>Born to Survive
>Anatomical Knowledge

Contact:
>Stranger

Price:
>Royal Treasure

Uniform of the Guild:
>No Official Uniform

Turn myself into a living, breathing weapon in every way. If I see you, you die.
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>>54501374
I literally have been gone two weeks, what was wrong with it?
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>>54501289
Oh wait I'm an idiot, missed page 2.
>The disturbing stranger
I like it.
>Expensive contract
>Lightweight Leather armor
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>>54501332
Oh, so you have multiple fanworlds in the oven.
I'm not fond of all of them though.
I thin Xian and Shen-Bu-Mi would fit conduit, the rest not so much.
>>
>so much oc
is this the reward for weathering all those shitty threads?
>>
Hey, did you guys know that a 20 kilo ferrous slug traveling at 4000m/s impacts with the force of over ten Tsar Bombas?

I didn't. I did not at all realize this.

Remember to do the maths on your cyoas, kids. You might be off anything reasonable by orders of magnitude.
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>>54501444
https://youtu.be/hLpgxry542M
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>>54499613
>Modular shotgun
>Fictional universe (RWBY because it's fun and not too harsh)
>Shock suit
So, stay away from rain.
>>54499806
Okay, so, no big change.
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>>54501431
I will try to build it first, if the community don't like it then that's fine. That means the fanworld isn't good/fit with the theme so i think that will be a good indicator.
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>>54498223
The descriptions for the demons mention favorite forms. Does that matter, or will they always just be in whatever form you choose as the vessel?
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>>54498282
ZBG is the one doing that now.
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>>54501488
Surprised no-one caught the reference when I posted the WIP.

My thinking was as follows;

"If 1.3% of c is roughly 4000km/s, if it's going at only 4000m/s, it'd be way less."

Turns out, that's not the case. Someone's got their math wrong. And I got wolfram alpha to do mine for me, so I reckon it's probably bioware.
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>>54498320
But Bound To Body has their powers based off of how much intrinsic power you have. Occultists have no power. So even with Third Eye they have no abilities?
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>>54497161
White and black pawn

>>54497294
Wolf
Fox
Drugs

>>54497836
'MURRICAN

>>54498422
Secret base
Blood magic
A blade in the mist, dimensional gate, berserker
Infiltration, master of poisons, observation
Meeting points
Nobody knows
Flamboyant

>>54499613
Express pistol
Custom trip
Money
Gold
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>>54497161
White King, Black King.

By using others as my pawns I can do the most good.
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>>54501199
> Straight A Student: 3 Academic
> CLASSES
> Game Theory: Mongol Historian: 3 Academic, 1 Magic
> Theology: Keziah Mason: 2 Academic, 2 Magic
> History: Bella DuBois: 2 Social, 1 Magic
> Science: Honey Aikos, 1 Academic, 2 Social
> English: Burbage St. John, 2 Social, 1 Academic
> Math: HEADMASTER, 2 Social, 2 Academic, 2 Magic
> Sports (Bonus): Coach Ace: 4 Social
> 12 Academic, 6 Magic, 12 Social
> FRIENDS
> Teacher's Pet (Honey Aikos) -4 Social.
> Talia Winters -3 Social.
> The Ace -4 Social.
> BOONS
> Crunch Time, -2 Academic
> Enough Hours in the Day, -4 Academic
> Superpower, -5 Academic, -1 Magic
> MAGIC
> Dispel, -1 Magic
> Expanded Senses, -2 Magic
> Healing Magic, -2 Magic
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>>54498292
This doesn't fix how impossible it is to summon a T10.
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>>54501199
>>54501273
>>54501643
Having done this build, I will say that a lot of the academic boons in particular are poorly balanced. Like, for 2 As you can get a super cramming power, or... a pencil case.

Not bad, though.
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>>54501137
>You seriously can't come up with anything you want? Your life is perfect?
It's more that I have no idea what is possible or not. The only one of the level 5/6 Celestials that had any real use was someone with healing powers.
What am I supposed to do with that? Go set up a private hospital where she does all the work?
>Demon bound to your body
But she has her own body?
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>>54501575
Most people probably try to forget that ME exists
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>>54498593
>Maybe if you're of the mind that halo is the only thing worth having.

No, you literally cannot summon a T10 without destroying the world anymore unless you're an Occultist Troll Demonologist.

It's not opinion, it is just something that cannot be done.
>>
interested in that open source cyoa ..?
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>>54501199
>Tokens noted for electives or specific classes are gained in addition to the normal token rewards of the teacher.
Does that mean that if i choose for example, Bella DuBois for history do i get the academic token too?
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>>54501421
>lack of choices
>huge limits on what you can choose
>corruption mechanic is OK but can get overbearing very quickly
There's probably more that I can't think of right now. Honestly, I think /tg/ wouldn't be so mad at you if you didn't absolutely sperg out and abandon eronomicon to make a shitpost CYOA.
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>>54498282
>I have no idea how the mind of autists work.
>posts on a form-filling general
anon I
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>>54501214
Nobody likes you, tok
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>>54501736
I guess. That's sort of irrelevant though.
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>>54501733
Fair stance to take after Andromeda.

Can't believe how bad they botched that. Decent game, but it completely lacks the soul that the original trilogy had. Like the people making it didn't give a damn about the lore, hell, I'd go as far to say that most of them probably hadn't even played it.

Something as simple and fundamental as the Arks were just hamhandedly shoved in with no thought to the original games. Shame, honestly, and it'll have been the death of the franchise. Sad to see it go, but better to die like this than EA dragging out it's desiccated corpse every year.
>>
>>54501784
Not destroying the world is irrelevant?
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>>54501812
Not being able to get a Tier 10 is irrelevant.
You don't want a Tier 10.
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>>54501827
Why not?
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>>54501841
Because why would you? It's designed so that it's not viable. So it's not a "have to make" choice anymore.
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>>54501199
>there are people who would choose to be anything other than Melvin
Disgusting!
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>>54501872
>Because why would you?
Power?
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>>54501652
Why "fix" something like that? It is already way too easy to summon T10s, Anything more would just be ridiculous. It is hard to see how the world hasn't ended long ago if a random self-taught demonologist is capable of things like that.
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>>54501883
No?
>>
where is time of troubles 2? I can't wait any longer brororogewo0goperojgoiajiroenqcq1mu9r238dm9hq814yuctm43hgq
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>>54501214
You only get to use that if you address the issues presented.

>>54501789
Bad writing, amateur work and releasing a year and a half too early will do that too you.
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>>54500691
What is the benefit? A wish that the Djinn will manipulate for their own benefit?

Wow so great.
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>>54501934
Should've kept it back at the main studio. I guess they wanted their a-team working on the new property, and the b-team on the sure thing, but Jesus Christ, that ended ME rightly.

Anthem better be the fucking shit, or I'm getting Destiny 2 and lighting EA's offices on fire.
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>>54501904
Now you gave up on making sense. T10 has lots of power. So if you want the most power, you pick T10. It's really basic logic.
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>>54501978
Set your expectations for anthem low anon. Just on principle so either your pleasantly surprised or not blasted once it comes out.

Jihad against EA when?
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>>54501827
Then why are they even there?

Having options you can't achieve in a CYOA is fucking retarded.
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>>54502020
I've set my expectations low. 6 months down the line, I fully EXPECT to have not touched Anthem with a long stick. I also fully expect to be burning down EA's offices.

So, Jihad in about 6 months.
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>>54501980
The entire build towards that is so not worth it though. Yeah, you get one super minion but you're probably going to get taken down in 3 days. I don't buy the argument that that's the only way to go.
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>>54501903
>It is already way too easy to summon T10s, Anything more would just be ridiculous. It is hard to see how the world hasn't ended long ago if a random self-taught demonologist is capable of things like that.

Only Troll Occultists can summon their T10 reliably.
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>>54502059
Alluah Ackbar Brother.
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>>54502049
It's a trap.
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>>54501978
There basically is no 'main studio/a team' left at bioware, the working conditions are so awful that anyone with shred of talent has left to work else and even people without any talents are preferring to starve on streets instead.
It's just EA being EA.
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>>54502089
Just take 10 nemeses.
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>>54502093
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>>54502072
What are you even talking about? You told me there's no reason anyone would want a T10, I asked why, thinking you had some nuanced lore-based reason, but then you just went into some spiel about how the CYOA's points are designed so I just explained WHY someone would want a T10.
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>>54502100
Really great shame that. Loved basically every Bioware game before... well, EA starting being EA.
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>54501199
>Straight-A student (+3 academics)
More like B+/A- but somehow got the highest grades of my class with minimal effort.
>Science: Honey Aikos (4 academics, 2 social)
>Math: Eve Zero (7 Aca, 3 social, -1 Mag)
>English: Substitute (7 Aca, 3 Soc, -1 Mag)
>History: Bella DuBois (7 Aca, 5 Soc, 0 Mag)
>Elective 1: Drill sergeant (Gym) (7 Aca, 8 Soc, 0 Mag)
>Elective 2: Josef Einhard (Sociology) (9 Aca, 9 Soc, 1 Mag)

>Amy York (7 Soc)
Would be nice to have a friend help with getting more friends.
>Elsebeth Bellerose (5 Soc)
Seems sweet
>Rebbekah Rogers (9 Aca, 2 Soc, 2 Mag)
I think I understand what people mean by it being distracting when cyoas include pictures of established characters.

>Crunch time (7 Aca)
>Fitness club (3 Aca)
>Bullshit (0 Aca)
Enough hours in the day would be great too. Could swap Fitness club for it but I need the socials.

>Spirit sense (1 Mag)
Seems cute
>Other memory
I have a feeling something terrible is about to happen


Nah Kyobei, I don't want more tokens from you. Sorry.
>Gender swap

So, 2 Soc and 1 Mag left.
>Roll your destiny
... fine
But I'm not happy with it
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>>54502093
That's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard on these threads.
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>>54502123
Remember how we even got on this subject? Read back. The point being argued was that troll occultist was the only option worth taking because it had a path leading to a Tier 10. I then went into detail about how that path is a trap.
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Rolled 4 (1d4)

>>54502151
>5
>2 Soc, 1 Mag, 0 Aca
Darn, I could've got Beacon with a 4.
aaand I have to roll again
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>>54502159
Maybe cyoas are not for you.
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>>54502020
>>54502059
>>54502100
>>54502139

You guys are aware that EA has backed off in recently years? Bioware has a lot of autonomy, it is their own pisspoor choices that lead to Andromeda.

They even offered to extend the release date for the game, but Bioware said no.
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>>54498895
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>>54502186
>CYOAs are meant to have fake options
>if you don't like it then you should leave

I want summer to end already.
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>>54502188
>EA has backed off in recently years?

I wasn't actually.

The damage was done with ME3, as far as I'm concerned. That was EA, so in my mind, I'm still justified in hating them. I'm sure if I really wanted, I could find other reasons to hate them. Like that mobile game version of dungeon keeper.

Bioware's a shit too though.
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>>54502089
That is not the case. A demonology 101 fae occultist for example could summon the fae T10 in a Halo (Bog Fairy in Jar + 2 * Werewolf in Jar + Pixie in Jar + Cassandra as a familiar + Gaia in a halo).
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>>54502168
Okay 5 is actually better than expected.
And I got Beacon! Neat.
>Turn 10 rather than 14+
Fits in with my science experiment.
I've already tried living at a boarding school. Not the most exciting but it's better since I don't get a free family.
Nah I'm good not learning why the Student Council has power. Maybe in a later reincarnation.
>Silver key
It's a bit more useful than a free friend.
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>>54499762
>you can't take a life
>human lives don't count
top kek
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>>54502227
Yes, a "fake" option that exists for narrative reasons is not strange once CYOAs became more narrative heavy and less pure "pick a or b." Fundamentally, it is no different than an option to be sarcastic to royalty or something similar in an actual CYOA novel, something that produces an immediate bad end. It's texture.
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>>54502255
I meant before taking the perks into account, since they have their own balance issues.

Plus Cassandra doesn't have enough Knowledge to use Halo (ignoring you need another perk to use Halo as a vessel as a Fae summoner).
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>>54502089
>>54502255
That should be the Deceiver as a familiar instead. You just need two more stars to afford that, which you could get from Wizardry and Pick a Side.
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>>54500211
> Wisdom of Ouranos is for getting a Seraph in a Druidic garden or Oculus in an artefact.

It's not wisdom of Ouranos. It's Revelation of Knowledge

> Revelation of Knowledge
> You can choose any vessel for your summons, regardless of the demon family they are associated with

You need Revelation of Knowledge to use a Halo on something other than a celestial, since Halo is celestial specific. And to get Revelation of Knowledge, you need to have access to celestials. Then to summon something from another family at all, you need to have multi-discipline.
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>>54502286
>muh narrative

I mean, people will respond to this in droves compared to a narrative-heavy CYOA. But sure, we're totally changing to a narrative-focused general lol
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>>54498480
>LoC
fuuuuck that brought me back. Must have played that game for years, quit when pow 24's were being released because i didn't have enough time to do raids or oddy anymore.
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>>54502166
No, that guy said a troll occultist is the only way to safely summon a T10, not that it was the only thing worth taking. I think you misread his post.
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>>54502366
We're told that putting a T8 in a Jar (T3) would be a bad idea. You think putting a T7 in a Familiar (T2) would be smart?
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>>54502412
Read farther back.
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>>54502380
worthless mong
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>>54502416
The deceiver doesn't have a necessary role to play in the universe like the other high tier fae do. Putting him in a low tier vessel won't fuck up the world.
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>>54502380
Always Geomancer.
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>>54502380
Time Mage.
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>>54502553
Yessss.
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>>54502380
I think that's kind of the exception that proves the rule. I've noticed that my CYOAs that have more world building tend to harvest more (You)s, and more importantly, tend to be the ones that encourage the most writefaggotry.

Except when people throw shitfits because they can't be the "good guys". Really? You all wanted to be the "good guys" in a world based on the fucking cthulu mythos? Good luck with that.

Anyway, I don't exactly agree with the guy, but it is HIS CYOA at the end of the day. Provide advice, but he's under no obligation to take it.

Also, wizard.
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>>54502416
If the T7 is the Deceiver, very possibly yes. Unlike some T8s, the Deceiver does not appear to represent some important aspect of the world without which the world would be in danger.

Also I just noticed that you could save 7 points by using a druidic garden instead of a familiar, so it is even easier than that.
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>>54502571
I don't even know if I was arguing with the creator or just some guy. I love narrative CYOAs myself, but I think impossible choices are kind of dumb.

There's a reason the Touhou CYOA died.
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>>54502571
>I've noticed that my CYOAs that have more world building tend to harvest more (You)s, and more importantly, tend to be the ones that encourage the most writefaggotry.
It's the only ones that have much to imagine. Without a world the CYOA is dead.
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>>54498223
Gotta say I'm loving this, choices in the image because the post got too long.

>Occultism, Shades and Djinn
100-25=75 points
0+2=2 power
5 knowledge

Multi-Discipline (Shades and Djinn) -2*
Demonology 101 +1*
Wizardry +1*
Harem Girl +1*
Dark Mind x5 +5*
Infused Power x2 -4*
Grace of the Gods -2*

Giving out a good vampiric immortality to those that pass the psych eval and can pay will be a nice side job on top of teaching. The eventual goals will be to create a simurgh oasis as a home and then upgrade to a demiplane of Grace with enough time and preparation.
Then it's keeping track of things and running my bloodline of good-aligned and well intentioned Shade/Djinn demonologists and working to redeem converts.

Assuming that, ya know, I don't go screaming mad from having 6+ voices in my and effecting my personality. But hey! Aim big win big.
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>>54502599
The point is there is no one proper way to write a CYOA. In a very light, fluffy one, it makes sense that every aspect is very gameplay focused. In one with more heavy narration, an author has access to many methods of conveying information, and probably shouldn't be arbitrarily limited. If that includes dummy/"fake choices" that are impractical in a gameplay sense but convey narrative, so be it.
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>>54502592
It's impossible. It's just dumb.
The design philosophy is that it's not a game unless failure is a possible outcome.
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>>54502648
Agreeing with every point.
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>>54502592
>I don't even know if I was arguing with the creator or just some guy.

Neither do I, I just assumed it was, by his wording, and his defensiveness.

>but I think impossible choices are kind of dumb.

I agree with you, on the most part. I suppose there would be ways to make it work, but I don't think I could, at least not in a way that wouldn't be frustrating.

>>54502599
There's a careful balance to be struck. You need to give them an interesting world, to intrigue, and yet leave enough to the imagination to let them do some of the work. Like horror movies, or absolute territory.

Related, and also best fetish. Saber's still best girl though.
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>>54499613
>Multipurpose laser tool
>Robot maid
>AI companion
>Money
>>54499931
So I'm confused. If I asked the robot to have sex with me, she just ties me up for bondage?
And would I be able to insert the AI into the robot maid?
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>>54502755
Best fetish is small breasts?
Skirts?
A girl looking slightly sad?
Thigh-high socks?
Thighs that look extra plumb because the socks are too tight? Yes
That little bit of exposed skin between thigh-high socks and the skirt? Yes
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>>54502286
I (>>54502755) am not the author. I get annoyed when people decide there is some specific correct way of doing things when I think experimentation should be encouraged. But it's probably a pointless argument anyway and it's not like we need more of those.
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>>54502790
the narrator of the cyoa lies to you in order to get you to pick the option. the have sex command isn't order 89
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>>54502826
The two post numbers should be switched around.
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>>54502416
>putting a T8 in a jar
>not putting a T8 in your dick
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>>54502380
Non-sloot version where?
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>>54502580
Honestly if you're fucking around with T7 fae, your best bet would be to find some way to off both Grim and the All Mother. Grim is only necessary because the All Mother is retarded, if she could be taken out he's just malignant.
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>>54502641
Cool. Really witchy. The dubious sanity only adds to the flavor! (Love that you tried to balance it out by cramming opposing personalities in there.)
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>>54502822
The last two. Absolute territory, or "Zettai ryōiki" is the phrase you're looking for on the last two.

Enjoy.

>>54502826
Right oh. Merely assumed you were. I agree with you on the experimentation point. I just feel adding the option and then denying people the option feels iffy. At least it does here.

I also happen to agree with you on the pointless argument side of it. Unnecessary and ultimately pointless. Good to talk things out, but at some point it stops being talking.
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>>54502049
For the sake of the lore? It makes perfect sense to me.
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>>54502662
Failure implies there was a gamble and a possibility at success. The T10 options are designed such that there can be no success, so they don't offer a chance of failure either.
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God Tier:

Basics -> Items -> Factions -> Companions

Shit Tier:

Basics -> Factions -> Companions -> Items
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>>54502883
In your folder of CYOA's you made but haven't posted!
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>>54502897
When clothes are just slightly too tight for the skin and cause the extra plumping, you also want the tag "skindentation."
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>>54502935
Who are you talking to?
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>>54502937
Right. Here it is.
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>>54502843
Yeah, I got that, but why is she tying me up? What does the command actually do? Keep me safe by just not letting me do anything?
Does it end, or do I just die there? Can I reverse it?
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>>54502949
Yeah, that too. Forgot that tag. Fucking best shit though.
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>>54502049
>>54502900
I was going to say it's not for the sake of lore, but if I think about it it really is.
I wanted a failure state. There are choices you can make that are just non choices, things that destroy the world. But the ones I ended up including are ones that do say a lot about the world. You get those problems when you get greedy, it's overambition in magic that screws everybody over.
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>>54502961
Oops. Forgot the picture.
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>>54502980
See >>54502908
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>>54502908
Failure does not imply does things at all.
You fail because you made the wrong choice, or you avoided failure by properly reading. You take a step back and reevaluate your options, then make an informed decision.
If done right it should make it more engaging because it rewards effort.
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>>54502949
You're a good nigga
>15k hits
how do I make a CYOA?
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>>54501185
>everything is edgy

That's what makes Berserk great.
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>>54503022
No amount of effort makes those options successful, so again, failure does not imply to them. Indeed, the only failure is on the author for design bad options where he could have made good ones.
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>>54503044
Wait, is that ...
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>>54503067
Choosing those options is your failing. The CYOA has traps. Traps that can be avoided by immersing yourself in the setting.

Look at Mario, Mario has cliffs you're not supposed to fall in. No amount of effort can help you see what is at the bottom of those cliffs, but if you engage with the game and play by its rules you expend effort into avoiding those cliffs.
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>>54503108
yes it is.
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>>54502641
Good use of converts.
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>>54503043
How about a CYOA about various clothing things such as down blouse and visible panty lines?
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>>54503128
You sound like a Pathfinder dev. No option should be an absolute trap. To do so is poor design, not brilliance. You don't add anything to the CYOA with poorly balanced choices, because then those were never options. Indeed, nothing would have stopped you from including them as mere background if that's all you wanted.
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>>54503108
Yeah 100%. You even get to see the outline of it's dick in the comic.

It get's decapitated before it rapes though.

I'd show you, but the panel has tiddy in it.
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>>54503128
>Argue CYOAs should have traps because they're more 'narrative focused'
>Go on to defend traps by saying it's like a videogame mechanic
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>>54503170
why do they NEED to be options? why can't they just be a showcase?
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>>54503188
I made that argument in my post. That if they're not intended to be picked, then they shouldn't have been pickable.
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>>54503170
I would make an exception for really obvious traps that would be used for a humorous build. Since "Winning" is not typically the objective of CYOA I wouldn't be too concerned about imbalance. Like, even less than in a TTRPG
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>>54503067
Not every option has to be a good one. Some options can be objectively bad. Hell, some CYOAs can be about making the best of a bad situation, with no net "profit".

>>54503128
You're conflating "failure" with "impossible to succeed". If you can't unlock the options, it's not a failure when you don't unlock them, it's the natural course.
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>>54503067
>No amount of effort makes those options successful

>GM creates world for his players to explore sandbox style.
>1st level party tries to assault doomfortress of the dark overlord.
>dies
>blames GM because he should not have presented them with any bad options.
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>>54503170
I'm going to go ahead and die on this hill. To me balance just means there's a lot of viable paths to take,
I just found out this has been posted on reddit and people seem to be more of your inclination so I'm niche. But whatever.
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>>54503203
why not?
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>>54503167
Well you'd need a (forced) option to be a girl. But sounds good!
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>>54503220
Because what's the point? What does it add to the CYOA other than taking up space and time that could be filled with real options?
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>>54503215
redditors being in favor of something doesn't mean their preference isn't niche here
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>>54498179
>Body Enhancement
Brain Implant (Sherlock holmes super speed, photographic memory, audiographic memory, memory palace, enhanced deduction, enhanced imagination)
>Profession
Exo Diplomat (working out of an embassy, often engaged in debates with alien species. Providing options papers and analysis reports to HQ. Is looked upon as some kind of folk hero due to being born 3000 years ago and is trusted by those who are more conservative or nostalgic for the past.)
>Alter Ego
Watcher (Diplomat that gains information on targets to be better at his job. Trusts information hes gathered himself personally. Will sometimes engage in parallel investigations to asses credibility.)
>Specials x2
Renown (Integrity and neutrality, unbiased and un ideological. Works to enhance the best aspects of others. Is respected for an almost Zen attitude.)
Sideline (Sec-Spec, manages his own diplomatic security as he doesn't trust anyone else to be competent enough, unless they are hand picked. He does after all have an enhanced brain.)
>Connections
Reika (Head of diplomatic bodyguards)
J32-T (Getaway Driver / Pilot / green kid, but we'll take care of him.)
Bumblebee (Technology Consultant and Ally.)
Lara Shinozaki (Insider informant and Ally)
Alice Parker (Insider informant and Ally)
Tazruk (Friend / Rival diplomat, eternally sirprised by how similar both of our minds are, but would never betray his people, nore ask me to betray mine. Informant and Ally)
Trixie Starr (Informant, Ally and Equipment Appropriator)
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>>54503220
Because then they are poorly designed options.

>>54503205
Don't think humor was the point here.

>>54503215
>Reddit poster
Gross, I was replying to a redditor.
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>>54503241
it's creating the setting lore
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>>54503167
Highleg_leotard best girl.
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>>54503210
Again, they're possible. Just not without fucking the world. Then you start thinking about how you can avoid fucking the world. In the end, you realize that Tier 10s are just the world fucking option and you turn towards the lower tiers for non-cosmic but totally useful power.
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>>54503210
>some CYOAs can be about making the best of a bad situation, with no net "profit".
Guess what CYOAs aren't very popular?
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>>54502891
Thanks. I love having minions but the dubious morality of using people is a nope for me, and the fact that you can't put a t1 into a t3 binding made me instead aim for more personal power.
I was heavily debating trying to grab Solomon to make contracts of "Don't be a dick, obey the spirit of your bindings." and using them like candy on everything, but in the end the idea of 'borrowing' all the power was too fun.

>>54503164
I like all of the types of 'demons' in it, and that was the best way with multi-discipline to be able to grab the biggest spread of abilities and minions.
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>>54503258
>Because then they are poorly designed options.
i disagree, they are serving their purpose very well
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>>54503265
Then include it as lore instead of an option. CYOA's are not simulationist. You will never include every option, so only include the ones that are actually relevant to being chosen.
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>>54503167
So ... a CYO/fa/?
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>>54503212
It's facetious to compare this to a situation where it WOULD be eventually possible to overcome it, like defeating the main villain.
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>>54503283
A widget designed to be useless is still a useless widget.
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>>54503290
>Then include it as lore instead of an option.
why?
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Here is the last version of my first CYOA. I added a lot of things, especially page 2.
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>>54503293
Twist the analogy to be attacking the god-like questgiver.
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>>54503290
They were included as lore. All of the information presented in a lesser demon is relevant in a lore sense as well. So there's absolutely no point in including them in some different way.
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>>54503276
The island CYOAs, the ones where you're trapped in a room aren't popular? They're escapism, sure, but comfortable? No.

I guess it depends on your perspective.

>>54503271
I think the argument is that it's far too difficult to achieve these options, such that it borders on impossible. I'll agree with you that getting them should have consequences, but if people want to get it, damned be the world, so be it.
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>>54503302
No, it's art.
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>>54503188
>>54503203
>information dumps are good, not proof that the author is shit
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>>54503329
>They were included as lore
But also as an option. Poorly-designed options.
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>>54503324

2/2
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>>54503325
D&D, it's still possible to defeat that entity.
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>>54503342
>Arguing that CYOAs are art
You could not be more pretentious.
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>>54503345
Yeah, the CYOA wouldn't be as good without them.

>>54503347
Their net worth to the CYOA is positive, so your whiny labeling of them is irrelevant.
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>>54503333
The various "Stranded somewhere, take these Waifus and supplies" CYOAs do always seems to get responses.
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>>54503266
>Highleg_leotard
Man I'm going to spend all night looking at images aren't I?
We gotta brainstorm next thread how to make this a CYOA!
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>>54503324
Should include a changelog.

>>54503333
>The island CYOAs, the ones where you're trapped in a room aren't popular?
No, they're not. Have you been in hibernation for the past 5 or so years since those were a common theme?
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>>54503333
>but if people want to get it, damned be the world, so be it.
Well, you know. They already can. I think the poster understands that it's possible, but stupid, he just hates that there are stupid choices. Or he's venting.
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>>54503324
Well aren't you an industrious little bee?

Looks good, anon, I look forward to reading the rivals. I'm also really glad you added 5 minor skills, even if my guild is going to stress heterogeneity
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>>54503369
>Their net worth to the CYOA is positive
Not as options, no. Again, as solely lore-based entities, they would make more sense.
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>>54503369
Sorry anon but being unable to integrate lore in an enticing way and instead puking it on a different section with no options is objectively poor design.
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>>54503347
It's not poor design to have a failure state. That's what makes it a game, rather than an avant-garde poem.
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>>54503402
This is irrelevant, since nothing in the CYOA is exclusively choice. You're trying to construct a false dichotomy here I think.
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>>54503348
La Silhouette seems really neat, it's actually pretty much the complete opposite of how I built my Guild.
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>>54503409
To me this way is more enticing than others. Indeed, this is probably the best way possible, since it makes you consider the fantasy world in front of you as a single while instead of neatly split into boxes before you even start reading.

Sorry that you have shit taste though.
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>>54503385
>Have you been in hibernation for the past 5 or so years since those were a common theme?

I fucking wish. If I could hibernate for that long, I'd probably ride out the rest of the century.

Just making the point that there are plenty of those CYOAs that exist, and as >>54503374 points out, they do still get responses.

Being unpleasant doesn't guarantee people won't like it. It doesn't help, but it's not a sure thing.

>>54503391
Probably just venting. But I generally make it a rule not to add too many steps to require someone get something. It frustrates people when they're forced to follow strict guidelines to get something. As stupid as that thing might be.
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>>54503463
That reminds me. I should continue with my megacorp cyoa.
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>>54503424
You're blatantly disregarding the work's function as a CYOA.
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>>54503414
It is, if there is no way to get around the failure state except 'just pick another option'. There's nothing wrong with choices that are sub optimal or just have strong trade offs. Having a choice that's pointless to pick is akin to a video game level that just instantly kills you when selected. And that's stupid.
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This thread is more full of white knights than normal. Never seen this much sucking up to authors before.
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I could use some help with those 2 remaining tier 4 demons so I can proceed with my fan DLC and get to the sweet stuff. If the author is still present, feel free to tell me whether I'm doing anything wrong lore-wise. <3
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>>54503509
I should be working on mine, but it's concerningly difficult to find art of spaceships that follow the laws of physics and the art style I want, so I'm shitposting while I look.

Good luck, anon, and Godspeed.
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>>54503528
I think you're taking the idea of choice, somehow tacking on the notion that only choice between options matters, the information needed to make interesting and informed choices be damned, and taking it all to the logical extreme. Why don't you go play tic tac toe or something instead? Completely honestly, it seems like it would suit your tastes far better than this.
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>>54503463
>points out, they do still get responses
the only ones that get responses are those focus heavily on the waifu part/are comfy.
If you have another example, you're more than welcome to post it (except for that recent jail one, because its main purpose is a throwback)
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>>54503509
And I should be making one instead of looking at all these great pictures...
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>>54503463
>they do still get responses.
That anon was in hibernation too if he really believes that.

>>54503453
It doesn't really make you consider anything. Only if it was possible through an intricate build would it cause you to think. All it does now is cause you to instantly reject the choice.

>>54503414
This isn't a failure state because there was never a chance at success with them.
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>>54503532
I think you're not doing the medium of cyoas justice.
The picking of choices in the cyoa is not akin to the level select of a videogame, with the real meat coming afterwards. (In your imagination I presume.)
The picking of choices *is* the cyoa. A cyoa should challenge you mechanically, make you evaluate, consider, calculate and decide. An engaging cyoa should be a labyrinth, with twists and turns and backtracking, at the end you should have had a journey that was truly yours and that you can show to others, proudly. "This is me. This is my build."
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>>54503569
You blatantly ignore that none of your opponents want information removed.
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>>54503577
Christ, anon, I could, but that'd elevate this discussion from a step above banter to people actually providing evidence. Plus, I'm not sure I have any saved. They are out there. Promise.

It's not even that big of a point. Fleshweavers did okay, and that was pretty recent.
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>>54503603
>All it does now is cause you to instantly reject the choice.
Which is fine. It's not there as a choice exclusively.


>It doesn't really make you consider anything.
On the contrary, all the relevant information about basically everything gets tied together in those.

>>54503629
Just like you blatantly ignore that, everything else being equal, you're whining about format and forgetting that this is the best and most efficient way to present all that information.
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>>54503554
I'll give you one that I happen to have laying around.
>>54503603
You don't get it. You win by giving up your ambitions for godhood. That's success, achieving the goddam humility to be contend with your floating castle and dragon mounts.
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>>54503617
>The picking of choices *is* the cyoa.
I think that is one of a couple valid types of cyoa, anon. Though I do agree that any good one should have hard choices to make.
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>>54503660
That's a nice one. I'd use it, but it doesn't quite fit hte artstyle. Thanks, though.
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>>54503657
>Which is fine
No, it makes it a bad choice.

>It's not there to be a choice exclusively
Its existence as a bad choice drags down its role as a lore element. A role the 'choice' element does not support.

>This is the best
You mindlessly repeating it doesn't make you right.

>>54503660
That's not a success, because the gamble is meant to be on that summon. Finding success or failure within it. If success is not possible, failure is not possible, and thus it's a poor and worthless choice that shouldn't have been framed as one.
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how would you all feel about a cold war battle mage cyoa for my next project?
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>>54503660
Contentment would see you as little more than a chimp, happy with his ants and raw fruit in his untamed jungle, coated in parasites and living a short, haggard life.
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>>54503546
Are we allowed to make "fan dlc" to demonology or are you just shitposting?
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>>54503577
DSA's Island is definitely not comfy and it did decently.
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>>54503697
There's no gamble. It's not a game of chance. It's a game of choice. You must choose correctly. For that you must consider the options, take a deep breath and accept that you can't be god. Because if you can't accept that you lose, that's not a gamble, that's a certainty.
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>>54503712
sure
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>>54503712
I enjoy killing red scum.
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>>54503712
Only if you modernize the social stuff. I'd be hanged for 2D-related degeneracy on both sides in cold war era.
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>>54503697
>No, it makes it a bad choice.
It's fine that it's a bad choice. Certain things being bad is an inherent property of any compelling world, and there's no better way to make you realize how bad a choice is than to demonstrate it. Because of the subjective nature of what's good and what's bad, this is immersing you in the CYOA.

The same could be said about a choice being impossible in a CYOA which is trying to make a point about certain things being impossible. Etc.

>Its existence as a bad choice drags down its role as a lore element.
In your opinion. Maybe you should get better taste?

>You mindlessly repeating it doesn't make you right.
Same back atcha. *shrug*
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>>54503721
I can't very well forbid you to have fun your way. I handed out the templates so people could play around with them.
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>>54498223
this is pretty cool and impressive. sorry i'm not smart or patient enough to engage with the mechanics more.
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>>54503739
>There's no gamble. It's not a game of chance.
Then there is no point to the option, no success or fail. It's poorly designed.

>>54503769
>It's fine that it's a bad choice.
And now you argue that poorly made CYOAs are a good thing, because you think like an art student.
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>>54503823
it's okay anon, ive read it twice and i still dont understand what the fuck some of the resources are supposed to do
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>>54503790
You're still the author. If you think anon is corrupting the setting you have the right to voice your opinion.
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>>54503739
The correct option is to use the old version and laugh at your pretension.
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>>54503764
>being able to view 2d degeneracy in a warzone
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>>54503829
>And now you argue that poorly made CYOAs are a good thing, because you think like an art student.
Sure, if you refuse to read what I wrote and make a lazy strawman.

In that case are are you trying to argue that you're an idiot? Because I can totally see it.
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This CYOA is one I'm particular to.
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>>54503829
The failure is in the unworthiness of the player. You don't get to call bad design just because you don't have it in you to succeed where others can.
You can't expect to be given a reward and an applause no matter what you do, THAT's thinking like an art student.
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>>54503170
I don't see a problem with giving people bad, or even merely difficult, options. Gets people to more carefully consider their choices and think it through.
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>>54503870
Quick to descend to ad hominem, quick to take offense. What else can you be if your argument is of artistic integrity and artful design? Of faux philosophy? You can only be an art student.
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>>54503895
go hog wild
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>>54498223
How exactly does soul mate work? You just wake up with the summoning knowledge and it's your call if you go through with it?

For example, is this legit?:

Soul Mate 10
Civilian +*
Agent +**
Plus One -*
Harem Girl +*
+15 Ritual Points -***
>Convert Succubus 'Monster' -22 (16 base, 4 for Monster, 2 for power)
>Simurgh 'Monster' -22 (16 base, 4 monster, 2 for power)

Though with that thinking... why not go full harem anime?

Soul Mate 10
Civilian +*
Outlaw +****
Obedience -*
Troll Nemesis +***
Shade Nemesis +**
Martial Nemesis x5 +*****
+50 Ritual Points -**********
'Plus One' x4 -****

>Gaia, Mother Nature in 'Monstrous' form -56 (40 base, 4 monster, 12 power)
>Ymir, The World in 'Monstrous' form -56 (40 base, 4 monster, 12 power)
>Tartaros, The Pit in 'Monstrous' form -56 (40 base, 4 monster, 12 power)
>Ouranos, Heaven in 'Monstrous' form -56 (40 base, 4 monster, 12 power)
>Mammon in 'Monstrous' form -56 (40 base, 4 monster, 12 power)

The fundamental foundations of reality and causality etc are your harem of devoted girlfriends, and nobody else is happy about this fact.
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>>54503901
I ignore you, troll.
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>>54503886
>you don't have it in you to succeed where others can.
But nobody can succeed at these options. Thus, they are poorly designed.

Well except Ymir. He's accessible.
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>>54503847
You don't have to consider it part of the setting. I don't. Sorry cupid anon, I trust you're not surprised.
>>54503855
But why, when the finished one supports making builds that reflect your preference?
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>>54503875
Doesn't that one get its own threads sometimes?
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>>54503916
Apparently not.
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>>54503241
It is a real option. In the same way nuclear war is an option, in the same way launching lawsuits at everyone and everything is an option, in the same way climbing Mount Everest naked is an option.

You can do anything, but there are consequences.
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>>54497294
Turtle & Bear
An ultimate tank
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>>54503928
>But why, when the finished one supports making builds that reflect your preference?
What is my preference? All I pointed out was the only way to take T10 options without dying would be to use an older version. I don't see how your new versions supports that, let alone my unknown preference.
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>>54501199
>What i was
Dreamer
>Math teacher
Keziah Mason
I am not really interested in mathematics nor i am good at them, however mathemagics? That is a really great encouragement to hit the books.
>Science teacher
Honey Aikos
I always liked biology and she probably has a slight bias to them, so maybe it will help my grades? Also she seems kinda cute so that is a plus.
>English teacher
Josef Einhard
I have to admit i am just picking him because i find him hilarious.
>History teacher
Bella DuBois
A history teacher that seems brought from a diferent time? There is not really any other choice than this.
>Gym elective
Coach Ace
TIME TO GET SWOLE
>Game theory elective
Ganbaatar Toi
I am already hitting the books for mathemagics might as well go all the way.

>Amy York
She is just too cute to pass up! Who knows maybe her optimism will rub off on me?
>May Smith
Poor girl, i can't stand to see her in such predicament. With my help she will get out of this in no time!
>Alice hirayama
She reminds me a bit of me. Well i don't really go around saying it out loud but she really does, maybe i can help her with her dream?
>Rebbekah Rogers
So... she knows that something is clearly fucked up with the school?She will clearly fit right in.
>Susie Edison
I always wanted to get in to reading maybe she can recommend me some books?

>Paranormal club
Probably not many people will want to join but whatever.
>Crunch time
Fucking mandatory.

>Reality walker
Jumping around dimensions seems like fun. Can i take my friends with me?
>Elementalism
A classic that never gets old.
>Spirit sense
Come on, how i could not take this?

Do you want a contract?
>Interesting times
Fuck it, i know what happens with contracts but you offer some good stuff in here
>Genderswap
Eh, You probably dig magical girls anyways.

>Rolled destiny: Distant skies (Endlessly repeating, Cracks in reality's Facade)
Kyubey you son of a bitch!
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>>54503918
Here >>54500491
Someone succeeded.
And again.>>54502641
Because they had the insight not to stick to the trap and go on to find the candy. Where they made stuff that was fun to them and gave them a great life.
Also, here you go >>54503912, turns out it was possible after all. Have fun.

>>54503912
With soulmate you have no choice. The demon summons themself and you have no idea how demonology works.
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>>54503928
I'm not cupid anon. I was interested in making on though. Not really a point if the author doesn't even consider them canon-ish. Why did you bother allowing fan families then?
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>>54503959
Because in the old version all builds are the same. That was what I was trying to say. I changed the point system so people would have fun and interesting builds.
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>>54504002
But they did not succeed, because they did not get a T10 without destroying the world. The point of a choice is to pick it and to succeed, not to choose something else. Otherwise it is poorly designed and has no place.
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>>54501199
>you've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?
dropped
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>>54504009
For your own enjoyment. Plenty of people get fun out of fanfiction, knowing that it's not canon. It's not pointless of the original author to allow that if people like doing it.
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>>54504002
You sure hate high tier demons.
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>>54504002
>With soulmate you have no choice. The demon summons themself and you have no idea how demonology works.

Oh yea, I'm definitely a harem anime protagonist then.
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>>54504042
oh noes, woe ist author, whoever shallt he recover! an anonymous person doesn't liketh what he hath madeth!
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>>54504040
Well probably reality harem anon succeeded At least that is what i hope
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>>54504073
oh noes, woe ist anon, whoever shallt he recover! another anonymous person doesn't liketh what he doth!
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>>54504026
You didn't answer my question, and your own post essentially lied when you said the current version facilitated non-fatal T10 builds.

You changed the point system and broke several of your options, and now nobody's built much of anything except to stick their dick in it.
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>>54504040
There's nothing in this post that isn't objectively wrong.

They succeeded in making a fun build. The point of T10 is to be a bad choice. CYOAs can have bad choices, because it rewards actually reading the rules.
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>>54503712
Sounds pretty good.

Isn't it nice that the Cold War was so easily color-coded?
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>>54504086
Bad choices are bad design, no choice should be an impossibility. Otherwise, it's poorly designed, as an option and as a game.
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>>54504026
Is your concept of fun exclusively tied up in petty slice of life adventures?
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>>54503712
T H I R D W O R L D I N D E P E N D E N T
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>>54504086
>T10
>"bad choice"
yeah maybe you should get some good taste you no-dream pleb
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>>54503712
>Defending democracy
>Working for the reds
Sounds fun
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>>54504084
I'm not saying that I know what your preference is. I'm saying that if you have a preference, you'll be able to let it shine through in your build now, instead of just going for the ONE TRUE OPTION, like everyone else.

People are now making builds that make clever use of the mechanics. They're experimenting with hosting multiple demons, becoming vampire doctors. I prefer it this way.
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>>54504135
To ask something: is everything in your CYOA possible to get? Are any actually hard-locked from the player?
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>>54504135
What if my preference was T10 options without it being a grand form of suicide? That's an impossibility. This is the point I was making to you.

My actual preferences are irrelevant, but would be far outside the scope of the CYOA itself.

>Clever use of the mechanics
What cleverness? You have a few people picking their waifu and that's pretty much it. I don't consider the same kind of waifu picking you have in all other CYOAs to be inventive or fun.
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>>54504116
There wasn't much of a conflict in this setting anyway. You could call that out as a problem, and you knwo what? I accept that. That's something I would change if I would start over.
But on the subject of power levels. Yes, I do think the current level is better. It's not like you're brought down to mortal levels. You can still become an immortal dragon rider or get your own demiplane.
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>>54504173
It's not that I consider a lack of conflict to be a flaw, but you have this grand concept and design and you seem to actively hate everything that it's being used for, even seems designed for, beyond picking some random demon to ride your cock or help you buy groceries and the like.
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>>54504157
Technically yes. But as I said, some choices are stupid. The trade-offs are too big.
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>>54504212
How exactly? Just for an example, what's the tradeoff? Yes I should read your CYOA,
but it's massive and the thread's about to die.
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>>54497846
>To Be The Best
It's an honorable goal.
>Vincent Cruise (Counter Engine)
To be the best, I have to learn with the best. No tricks, no frills- just ability, training, and power.
>Thousand Fist Cannon
A relentless flurry of fists raining down like cannon fire. Simple. Effective.
>Secondary Style (Hard Road)
While I was never officially trained in this style, I learned enough to work it out on my own. If I can't find an opening, I'll just have to make one.
>Prelim: Detective Ryo
>Quarterfinal: Mordecai Grant
>Semifinal: Maximum Styles
>Final: Emily Endow

>Maximum Styles: Friendly Rival

Results:
>Prelim Match
A horrible matchup to start with, forcing me to reveal my knowledge of the Hard Road style early. It's enough to turn the tables, thankfully, but I'm down a trump card and the battle's only begun.
>Quarterfinals
The battle isn't very long- technicals going against one another rarely are. Every attack parried, countered, or turned around, only to be turned around yet again. It comes down to our ultimate techniques- and luckily, the relentless rain of blows from a Thousand Fist Cannon are enough to stop the Near Death Experience.
>Maximus Styles
A long-time rival who's always had my back in barfights across the globe. Once again, our technical styles of combat get us nowhere, every attack only seeming to open the door for reversals. It takes everything I have to survive the Smackdown and retaliate with my own offensive, and the fight ends with a secret handshake, followed by unconsciousness.

>Finals
For once in this tournament, I seem to be doing fairly well- a feared and powerful contender who actually can't get out of and reverse every one of my moves. However, it all comes down to that super move- and it takes every last ounce of my strength to parry that unstoppable attack and retaliate with my own flurry of blows. I don't remember being crowned champion- only the month of rest that followed the tournament, and my new position as a Hidden Master.
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>>54504233
He made it so picking the stronger options instantly destroys the world.
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>>54504164
> What if my preference was T10 options without it being a grand form of suicide? That's an impossibility.
Then go with halo, as in >>54500168
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>>54504239
That's good then. I support this CYOA with the full force of my general ignorance.

I know I'd be tempted to pick something big even if it destroyed the world perhaps because it destroyed the world, so it's not an actual trap/fake-choice.
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>>54504205
I don't see where you're getting at.
I'm restricting super high level shenanigans. The concept is to create these very different kinds of minions, but those minions get superfluous if you have too much access to super high level stuff, which inevitably takes the shape of a third eye or halo.
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>>54504256
What a suicidal little freak we have attracted to this thread.
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>>54504285
Then why put in those high level shenanigans if you only wanted to see people doing slice of life crap?
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>>54504291
>implying going out with a bang isn't the concern of innumerable interminable works of art from the beginning of human civilisation
girugamesh!
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>>54504249
Fine, Celestial and Troll. What about the others?
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>>54497294
Tiger Bear Fox Turtle
Conquer
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>>54504295
I hardly call battling your martial nemesis on the back of your enchanted flying construct with a trio of monstrous Simurghs at your bec and call slice of life.
Those super high slice of life are just alternative options for people that want to be like archmage-sama and are willing to sacrifice some the fun stuff in order to get it. Except for the absolute highest level stuff, which is for people with a god-complex that believe their ego should supercede reality.
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>>54504373
Simurghs are low tier, so yeah, that's pretty much a low tier adventure right there.
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>>54504351
You can get any of them if you take a few drawbacks from world building. They only fall 5-10 ritual points short, which you can get by converting 2 star points to 10 ritual points.

Getting them in a halo is a bit more expensive, since it requires Multi-Discipline and Revelation of Knowledge in order to put Gaia, Ymir, Tartaros, or Mammon in a halo, but it can still be done.
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>>54503324
>Build
Lost in Nature - Mountains, northern but not arctic climate
Lethal test(s) - I plan to recruit young local hunters. The first test is surviving 3 minutes in combat with the guy offering the exam (mostly to check if the guy is willing to risk his life). The second test is surviving the winter on one's own outside my headquarters. The last test is reaching a certain city from my headquarters while being chased by my assasins.
Major Skills - Sharpshooter, Telepath, Blade in the Mist
Minor skills - Master of poisons, anatomical knowledge, stealth, Supreme Agility, Observation
(I want my assasins to work in small teams, my methods should be self-explanatory)
Contact - Meeting points
Price - Royal treasure
Uniform - Masked
Rival - La silhouette

>Feedback
First page is okay, except some powers are clearly much stronger than the others. Would consider limiting powers like Blade in the Mist as major only.
Second page needs more options and rewordings. The price section feels awkard, what if I want to do both expensive and royal treasure contracts? What if I No One Knows, but without the dumb stuff?
Masked uniform should be pickable with other options

Good cyoa/10
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>>54498279
Is there a way to summon a succubus in a full-sized adult form that you can fug without kidnapping and possessing someone?
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>>54498223
So how do you feel now that your CYOA has been argued about for most of a thread? Gonna pop like Tok?
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>>54504373
>believe
know.
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>>54504425
Not him but I thought it was a really interesting argument. It was actually about the heart of the CYOA, rather than some dumb unimportant thing like cuckery or frigate balance.
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>>54504442
Oh also my ego DOES transcend/make up reality, by the way. It's not a question of should. Thank you.
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>>54504421
You could summon them as a shoulder sprite and go multi-discipline to get Ogna (a T5 troll). She can resize both living and non-living things, so she can probably make the sprite bigger. Ogna will need to be able to eat a bunch to get the energy to do it, so you probably want to put her in a monster vessel.
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>>54504373
> Except for the absolute highest level stuff, which is for people with a god-complex that believe their ego should supercede reality.
Hey now, I went for Ouranos just for the fun of taking the entire universe and putting it in a halo on top of my head. The philosophical conundrum is all it took to get me to want to do it.
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>>54498223
>Bloodline
>Fae
>Granny Frost, Druidic Garden (75)
>Plague Lord, Jar (63)
>Plague Lord, Jar (51)
>The Deceiver, Familiar (37)
>Third Eye, Gaia (-33)
>Eleven Djinn Nemeses (0)
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>>54504457
Maybe, but some people react badly to any kind of arguing.
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>>54504504
That's what he said.
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>>54504504
Wizards, always tearing apart the fabric of reality for the fun philosophical conundrums it could cause.
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>>54504504
I just noticed something about it, you can take your halo and smash it with a hammer or something if you wanted to destroy the universe.
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>>54498223
Were you that guy doing the corporate cyoa or was that someone else?
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>>54504425
Takes two to make an arguement. I was right there with him justifying myself.
If I hated arguments I'd just go masturbate and let him be.
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>>54501332
>Worm is the world based on worm by wildbow

Its funny that i always wondered what would come of this in the conduit setting.

Cant wait to see what you do with it.
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>>54504565
I don't think the entity creating the megacorporation cyoa can be considered human.
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>>54504457
>frigate balance
It was that same argument. I wouldn't be surprised if the same anons were participating.
>if you don't balance the thing I want to make my build the best, you have objectively poor game design
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>>54504653
we know you're the same person you know.
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>>54504565
Yeah, but it's not shaping up to be a very good one and I'm running low on inspiration.

Maybe i'll start over from the beginning. I'm thinking about taking inspiration from that slavic kingdom builder. Except in literal geographic territory you have pre-established industries to choose from.
The corporate culture could work a bit like a religion. There'd be drawbacks to uniting parts that have a different management style.
There could even be a sort of nobility in the form of the stockholders.

But the whole fun of business world fantasies is that you get to have a vision for the world, a radical new idea that will change how people live their life. You'd lose that with choosing from a list. Also, maybe people want to see more intrigue and crime?
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>>54503712
I would.
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>>54504715
Intrigue between business is a big part of any business themed CYOA.
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>>54499623
>ZBG's shitposting style is the style of gentleness, it meets force with calmness.
...Aww...
I like that.
Thank you.
Also, I'm coming around to being portrayed as a cute baker lamia...
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>>54504715
It has only one problem and that is its complexity. The worldbuilding was great. I remember wanting to capitalize on environmentalism and pollution in area 19 by selling mystical air cleansing charms and stuff. Slowly expanding my power as the people become dependent on me through their newly found appreciation for clean air.

I even had a dream about that world. My family somehow appeared 1y after I did and they all expected me to give them cushiony jobs.
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>>54498223
So what made the humans, or in what role rather? They seem to have father strong connections to Fae in origin and influence (ones like Cassandra even blame humans for her state somehow) whereas they also seem to have some connections to Trolls in origin, and strong connections to both Trolls and Djinn as far as their achievement and advancement.
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>>54497294
The Fox
The Owl
The Tiger

Monestary
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>>54504861
I should write "meaningless but well-paid jobs to give to your family" down somewhere.
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Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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