>One-gender race How does that even work ?

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The asari from Mass Effect did it. They have sex with everyone and end up just taking some genetic material and that's all they need.

There's also some real microorganisms that reproduce asexual and don't really do gender. Maybe make big sentient versions of them.

You could also have a race that construct their offspring, so gender wouldn't be necessary there.

>>54477018
by having mixed communities where the races benefit from eachother

>>54477018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail
Nature is weird.

>>54477018
By not. Viera aren't mono-gendered.

The only other way to do it is with an androgynous asexual species.

>>54477044
Asari literally only exist because of the blue space babes trope since the original mass effect was a homage to star trek and star wars before being ground into so much soulless dust.

>>54477018
Like frogs or cuttle fish, one member of the single gender community becomes male to impregnate as many females as possible then goes back to being female.

Maybe it's a eusocial species of clones. The queen lays a fuckload of eggs, which then hatch and mutate over their collective lifetimes to deal with or overcome the rigors of their local environment.Every so often, the queen either births or selects a "Scout" to leave the hive and create a new one, complete with a retinue of "old guard" to protect/ provide for her as she lays another fuckload of eggs. Tl:dr Bees that mutate evee style.

>>54477018
Wraethnu

>>54477124
reported

>>54477018
Asexually

>>54477148
Aw man, why?

>>54477167
Is joke. I kid.

>>54477018
Sexual dimorphism is one means of producing genetic diversity by requiring half your offspring's genetics come from another party. This does not preclude other methods of generating diversity, or reproduction without any additional diversity at all.

>>54477097
screw you guys this is gold.

All creatures are born male and become female when they grow to adult size.

>>54477213
So the species has a hard cutoff for mating. Is it a gradual thing like puberty, or do they pupate?

>>54477194
*Hugs you*

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>>54477097

So pretty much this ?

>>54477097
But who fertilizes the eggs?

>>54477256
fuck.

>>54477264
eggs can fertilize themselves, it just means less genetic variety

>>54477264
Man has always dreamed of fertilizing the stars.

>>54477264
Not an egg/ sperm zygote per se, more a bunch of direct copies of the original progenitor, with all the mutations she acquired over her lifetime.

Several ways, apparently:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klepton

>>54477284
through dick, unity

>>54477297
through unity, strength. And more dick

Assuming the race doesn't produce asexually, you could just have them function like a parasyte, injecting their young into other species to serve as host, host death at birth is optional.

If species is all male and has similar sex organs to humans (or other target species) you could have them mate "normally" with a human (or other target species) female and provide sperm with a mostly human genome, simply replace the X/Y chromosome with a Z chromosome, creating your monosex species offspring.

If all female repeat above with human (other target) male, but fertilization only occurs with sperm bearing X chromosomes, Y chromosome offspring fail to duplicate due to incompatibility with chromosome Q.

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>>54477018
By masturbating before posting.
The child born is always female

I kinda like the slime idea. Slimes just bud off parts of themselves and merge them with others' buds. This creates the "genetic" diversity (even if it's magic and not genes).

>>54477018
The gods did this fuckery!

That is pretty much the only way. Or you could say "its magic" idunno.

But I do have this race of spider people in my game where the players only meet the males, as they are the only one who leaves their continent (australia). That's because they are much...friendlier than the females and the females are about four times their size.

>>54477485
All female species exist in reality you know

>>54477527
No I don't know.
But that's like, some fleas and plankton, right?

>>54477547
see >>54477057

>>54477018

i know this isn't what you meant, but how about a species that has almost no sexual dimorphism or secondary sex characteristics? so they might technically be "male" "female" or some other genetic distribution, but not have any social norms for gender or gender roles.

>>54477554
Snails are like this. Also some worms.

>>54477551
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klepton
but it says here they use the "presence of the male sperm" to make clonal offspring.

>>54477018
There are male viera it's just we don't see them and they live in their own villages

>>54477018
A created biological race that is practically immortal (very long lived). They are mules (cannot breed) and can die from injuries but otherwise don't get old or get diseases. Someone made 1 billion of them and that's it. They can't increase in number.

>>54477018

Viera aren't one-gender, the males live in a separate village in another woods. They meet up once every few decades or so to mate. When you species lives for centuries then it's a viable option, Fran looks young but she's at least 50.

if there's only one sex does it mean a species is sexless?

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>>54477616
forgot pic

Parthenogenesis is a thing. Eukaryotes reproduce asexually all the time, and we just aren't paying enough attention, because honestly, why does your average person care how fungi, plants, and small animals are fucking?

>>54477598
You're looking at the wrong link. The whiptail uses parthenogenesis, which reqires no sperm.

Besides, kleptogenesis doesn't even use sperm from the same species, so it technically qualifies too. And it doesn't always result in clonal offspring either.

>>54477652
>You're looking at the wrong link
oh wow I am double retarded.
This mexican lizard is the only one that does this?

>>54477681
No, there's plenty of lizards that do it and some crocs, I think

>>54477681
>>54477686
Komodo. Dragons.

>>54477629
Sex is defined by the production of eggs or sperm. A single sexed species could be all female or hermaphrodites. Sperm is too shit to divide on it's own though, so no all male species.

>>54477686
Lizards are weird.
But they can also do shit like regenerate.
Now there are some interesting traits for a D&D race.

You cant really justify it for humanoid mammals though, eh?

>>54477631
I imagined male vieras to be way more savage and feral, definitely not wearing armor and carrying spears

>>54477718
Why?

>>54477706
Lizards and birds don't have X and Y chromosomes, they have their own system that is based on the conditions the egg was in. Which is why there are cases when, say, a bird is male on the left and female on the right

For mammals... no, can't really happen. Though in sci-fi you could have a multitude of ways sexes are determined and in fantasy reality itself sometimes works differently

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>>54477718
spear and armour is pretty savage, bruh

>>54477044

> You could also have a race that construct their offspring, so gender wouldn't be necessary there.

Dude, dude.

Imagine a race of Frankensteins-like being. That would be dope.

>>54477055

You might trigger someone with that kinda language.

>>54477616
>>54477631
>>54477718
Sounds like an ass-pull on SE's part considering you never see male Viera in any game that has Viera in it. Unless the dudes are kept in even greater seclusion and only for sexual.

>>54477733
>Which is why there are cases when, say, a bird is male on the left and female on the right
FUCKING WHAT!?
Tell me more please!

>>54477744
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZW_sex-determination_system

I don't know why but I feel like my world view is shattered.

>>54477744
Also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynandromorphism
And this: https://www.theguardian.com/science/grrlscientist/2014/jan/31/grrlscientist-halfsider-chimera-bilateral-gynandromorph-birds

>>54477738

According to info from FFXII, male Viera don't interact with the outside world and basically act like 'GET OUT OF OUR FOREST HUMES REEEEEEEEEEEEE" warrior Wood Elves, so no one goes near them.

>>54477727
It was an interesting concept I guess
>>54477736
in a "almost animal, raised by wolves" kind of way

>>54477771
Disclaimer: I'm not sure if the article in the guardian doesn't try to make some stupid social justice point using a mechanism that doesn't apply to humans to begin with, I haven't read this particular one, it's just the first one I found now. But it should describe the mechanics of gynandromorphism

It doesn't. Gender is only meaningful as a means of oppositional differentiation; if you have only one gender, you effectively have no gender.

>>54477771
The world is crazy, yo.

Boom dee yadah

>>54477598
>>54477547
Sharks can reproduce asexually as well.

>>54477459
nice feet

reading this thread makes your average generic scifi setting's clone/hive species seem lame

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>>54477798
Jesus christ!

>>54477826
How scared will you be when you learn that sharks near Greenland live up to being, at least, 400 years old? Though their sexual maturity is also at like 150

>>54477738
Male Viera get brought up a bit in Revenant Wings.

>>54477840
humans get cancer in a few decades. how does a 400 year old shark survive these things after eating so many animals

>>54477851
No idea. They have a really slow metabolism, might help

>>54477018
Race always lays offspring in sets of 2, one Female and one male which has a severely reduced Lifespan reaches maturity quicker and die shortly after doing the deed with one or multiple Females. So the Males are only Breeding stock and not a part of their society based on their lack of Lifespan and/or Sentience.
Or just one big Female getting all the boys like Bee's

while technically not one-gendered it would be a one gendered Society

>>54477851
Slow metabolism, and being aquatic, they're shielded from the majority of oxidizing radiation.

Though, they do get cancer. Though, he's retarded about the 150 sexual maturity thing.

There is a species of jellyfish that is effectively immortal though. They revert to their childhood state and then remature.

>>54477851
Their biology is a lot more simple and they get much less exposure to things that can damage their DNA structure.

>>54477459
>masturbating before posting
I'm not losing challenge of 80+ days over 4chan, thank you very much.

>>54477840
I did read that the contents of a shark's stomach once included a fucking knight.
well, bits of him.

>>54477896
Poor Sir Sharkchow

>>54477896
Well, yeah, I've read of a whale swallowing some religious nutjob once. He was so hard to stomach it regurgitated him back again.

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Hermaphroditism.
It's also what I prefer monstergirls as as opposed to just raping males, as futa monstergirls raping each other especially after fighting over who gets to fuck the other is pretty hot

>>54477896
their was also one turtle they pulled out of a, I think is was the Mississippi, that had a musket ball dated to 200+ years ago lodged in its shell.

So unless some one was shooting antiques at turtles for shits that thing is fucking ancient.

>>54477018
They need humans to reproduce simple as that

>>54477945
You're a fag

>>54477995
no u

>>54478022
He's right though, futafags are closeted homos.

>>54478036
>implying you're not him
>implying futa is gay
:^)

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>>54477871

sounds like the khepri of bas-lag, females are humanoids with insect heads and the males are just big bugs and barely sapient

>>54477018

There could be a system where if the egg is fertilised by a sperm carrying the Y chromosome, the zygote doesn't/can't stay alive. Maybe like a virus that attacks the Y chromosome.

>>54477945
>Posting MGE
>Not posting a heavily censored cover of Zettai Reido

>>54478125
Reminds me of that Oglaf comic.

>>54478125
How the fuck's that Riverbow supposed to work, you're never going to get that sawblade spinning fast enough like that.

>>54478151

post

>>54477018
Parthenogenesis (females who reproduce asexually), see some lizard species. If you're worried about evolution, couple it with RNA editing instead of our usual method, the thing that allows things like octopodes to edit their genetic structure in small ways over a couple generations or even within a single organism's lifetime.

Alternatively, if you're in fantasy/high sci-fi, you might have races that reproduce using magic/technology instead of organically, and they've either got no gender or their species has whittled down to a single gender for whatever reason (Voght the Victorious doesn't let his worshippers be or affiliate with women, so he taught them a ritual to birth new men from the ground or some shit).

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>>54478183

>>54477018
Viera have males, devs just were too insecure to add them in.

Or they thought fanbase was too insecure, which is more likely explanation

>>54477459
Not if the sperm is a Minotaur's.

>hermaphrodite race/species
>foreplay consists of wrestling
>the winner impregnates the loser
>winners get more offspring and spread their genes more while losers aren't left behind

>>54478167

the blade is brought to speed before launching. it's one of the only effective weapons against the cactacae due to their fibrous structure.

>>54477284
>>54477297
>>54477316
Just imagine an interstellar Empire living by this creed.

>>54477945
>>54478251
Perfect.

>>54478290
Brought to speed how? I don't think they have industrial quality ball bearings in there.

>>54478337

there's a motor in it, I guess? it's a steampunk-y setting with weird magic and these are just fan drawings

>>54478337
Thinking about it some more you'd also need ridiculous levels of kinetic energy when shot to actually have it saw through something, otherwise the serration is just going to catch or the entire blade bounces. Sawing shit is actually pretty complex work.

>>54477893
Why do chastity fetishists boast about partaking in their fetish?

>>54477018
ants and termites are pretty much like that

>>54477089
>star trek
>Star wars
Asari are based on the syreen from star control though

>>54477738
Don't male and female Viera end up fighting if they're around eachother too long? I could swear I read that somewhere.

>>54477018
Make it a mono-gendered species that's closely related to at least one other species. They can mate either with a member of the other species or reproduce asexually.

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Best one gender race coming through.

>>54478211
Considering they had to swap out the main character from a grizzled older man to an annoying little fuck, that's probably the case

>>54477018
>this much ignorance
I know next to fuckall about biology, but even I know that sexual reproduction doesn't require two distinct sexes. Snails and worms, for example, are hermaphrodites - each adult specimen has both male and female reproductive organs. When they mate, they fertilize each other and then both lay eggs.

>>54478561
Not entirely true, from what I've heard: one snails shoots the other, causing it's penis to stop working, after which they fertilise 'normally'.

>>54478561
Anon is clearly talking about a single sexed species, not some intersexed one

>>54478592

go back to /pol/ if you wanna get triggered

>>54478251
show you who's the boss of this gym

>>54478539
Vaan isn't really the main character though. The story begins with him, sure, but that should be compared to Star Wars starting with C-3PO and R2-D2. In many ways the story, or at least the beginning of it, is told from their perspective, but their only our POV characters. In Star Wars the actual main character was Luke, with Hans and Leia as very important side-characters. In FFXII it's less clear who exactly the main character is since good cases can be made for both Basch, Ashe, and Balthier, though it's certainly clear that it's not Vaan.

>>54478595
I seem to remember hearing something about snails mating ritual essentially being them fighting over the right to stick their penis in the other.

>>54477018
I would imagine him makes gender difficult for him to discuss

>>54477018

Parthenogenesis.

>>54478647
I would go far as to say its Basch as he has the best arc, though its pretty obvious its supposed to be all 3.

>>54477018
Minotaurs have been doing it since AD&D.

>>54478036
Futa isn't gay. Nor is it straight. It's closer to teratophilia or xenophilia than anything.

>>54478605
The term intersex doesn't really apply to here because it describes an individual who's sexual characteristics done line up with the species' norms. If an entire species is hermaphroditic then they aren't intersex, they're just a hermaphroditic species.

>>54477018
>Asexual reproduction
>Spontaneous generation
>A single immortal brood

All of these are obvious and acceptable.

>>54478687
I would likely go with Basch as well. The conflict between him and his brother is very central to the narrative and plays into several of the greater themes in the story. In particular those concerning national identity.

Ashe comes close though since much of the plot revolves around her attempt to reclaim and liberate her kingdom.

Balthier, I find, as Fran said; more of a supporting role.

>>54478723

wait so could an intersexed person from a hermaphroditic species seem just straight male or female from a sexually dimorphic species' perspective? that's cool

>>54478036
So what bred this mindset?
If futa is gay, is hetero sex also gay, since it involves dicks? Futa is expressly not the same as irl shemales/trannies (almost always featuring characters that are female in all but genitalia) and there is no great focus on the transitioning or such twaddle..

>>54478783
It's gay if the fantasy involves the dick being put in a male.

>>54477018
by being a colony, a queen is selected based on hormones or some fitness criteria, the gender switching happens via cannibalism, then the queen mate with the strongest males (can be a king mating with the fittest females depending on the dominant gender you choose).
either that or you know, cloning that allows mutation, a female based race that can get pregnant purely via the change of hormones (consuming some substance, reaching a certain age...).
or like plants, a race can grow origin seeds from a certain part of their bodies (1-3), after that it just drops, if it's planted in a suited place it will grow and become a newborn.
or splitting, the same way a slime can split, only aged organism can split successfully but you start with two weak individuals like cells.

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>>54477945
Your taste is shit, but I do say that there is practically no way to make a mono-gendered race non-magical realm unless you DON'T talk about it that much.

>>54478748
You can't be intersex if your species doesn't have two sexes to be between

>>54478783
>sees a sexy woman
>"I know what could improve this: give her a penis!"
>"Better yet, let's give her the biggest, most grotesque penis imaginable, and make it central to all the porn!"
I'd like to know what bred this mindset

>>54478797
But no one said that, and futa is neither male nor female in definition. As I said, most futa characters carry female traits and features, with a dick being the sole masculine one, rarely balls too, and almost always are having penetrative sex with females or other futas, or being penetrated by males.
So why is it gay, again?

>>54478849
Sounds pretty gay to me.

>>54478849
If the futa is the one getting penetrated, what is the purpose of it's dick?

>>54478488
The Syreen were likewise based on the green slave girls from Star Trek.

>>54478808
>having this shit taste
Nothing is better than a futa monstergirl asserting her dominance against another futa monstergirl of differing species by forcibly fucking and impregnating them.

>>54478838
>i like cocks
>yet i don't want to be seen as a gay
>i know, lets give women cocks so that way we can pretend that us wanting the d is no way or form gay

>>54478838
>I'd like to know what bred this mindset
>he doesn't know that most males focus on the symbolic power, and their personal relationship, of the dick, and do not find "dicks" gay (because they fucking have one), but find the act of penetrating a visible male gay, as >>54478797 stated
You do know that most of those dojins you are talking about, like Radiohead's (whose art is an aberration, not the norm), are exclusively futa on female/futa. You are complaining about penetrative sex on a female analogue.
It makes little sense once you break it down and know what you are talking about.

fucking weebs ruined everything

>>54478857
>>54478886
So you are implying that because there is a dick, at all, it must be gay.
The existence of dicks is gay, not what it is done with it. I guess we are lucky that women do not hate tits in the same fashion.
>>54478900
Thread was shit, we are making it at least entertaining.

>>54478831
Extrasex?

>>54478928
Sure. Whatever floats your stoat

>>54478036
That's a weird statement to make because I got into futa because I liked seeing sex but I didn't like having to look at some dude's ass while doing so. Substituting the guy with a chick with dick made it more enjoyable for me.

>>54478920
>because there is a dick, at all, it must be gay.
Nah, but imagining a dick on a girl definitely seems like the kind of thing a closeted gay man would do because "it's not gay if it has tits."

Gay dude here, we don't want futa either.

>>54478890
So most males are autistic to the point of being incapable of relating to anything that doesn't have a penis, yet are so homophobic they can't tolerate seeing males in their porn, so in a supreme act of deranged fetishism they attach a penis to a woman so she can fuck another woman...who also has a penis for some reason?

I feel like this is an even more disturbing conclusion than them just being confused fags.

>>54478928
Yes, thank you for offering

>>54478952
Out of everything you could focus on in a hetero sex scene, why on god's green earth are you fixating on the man's ass?

https://www.google.com/search?q=homosexual+definition
adjective
1.
(of a person) sexually attracted to people of one's own sex.
noun
noun: homosexual; plural noun: homosexuals
1.
a person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexual
Definition of homosexual
1
: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex a homosexual man was involved in a homosexual relationship
2
: of, relating to, or involving sexual activity between persons of the same sex homosexual acts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
Homosexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/homosexual
Sexually attracted to people of one's own sex.
Involving or characterized by sexual attraction between people of the same sex.
‘homosexual desire’
A person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/homosexuality
sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/homosexual
a person who is sexually attracted to people of the same sex and not to people of the opposite sex

http://www.yourdictionary.com/homosexual
adjective
The definition of homosexual is people who are sexually attracted to individuals who are the same sex, or it is something related to sexual attraction to someone of the same sex.
A man's sexual attraction to another man is an example of something that would be described as a homosexual attraction.
A bar that is primarily frequented by gay men and gay women is an example of a homosexual bar.
noun
Homosexual is defined as a person who is sexually attracted to someone of his or her own sex.

>Futas are hermaphrodites by definition and what it translate to and thus not male
>Ergo futa is not gay for they are not the same sex as male

>>54478748
Intersex still wouldn't be the right word, I was a little vague with the definition there, as >>54478831 points out the individual needs to be of one sex but have sexual characteristics of another sex of the same species. You'd have to come up with a whole new term for what you're asking about. Unless some one else has which is entirely possible.

>>54478968
It's scary, isn't it?
I prefer the conclusion being that dick+vag sex is the most appealing part of sheer porn eroticism, but not the (often unappealing) masculine features the dick is attached to.
>I personally find the interplay between a man and woman to be the most erotic thing on earth
So, to maintain an ideal amount of attraction, the necessary bits of the porn eroticism are kept (dick) while the parts that appeal less to men (the masculine features the dick is attached to) are replaced by female features (that men are conventionally attracted to).
All of the "it's gay" nonsense is precisely that; it is nonsense that doesn't stand up to a hint of scrutiny, and seems carried more by the types who think lesbian porn is the best thing ever.
>>54478967
It's not for YOU, anon, and never was.
>>54478966
Nonsense for reasons already stated. The best part is that YOU are the one focusing on the dick, and the dick alone. If all you can see in porn is the dick, then that says something about you first and foremost.
Anon, you must surpass your latent dick obsession, it is only hurting you.

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>>54478997
>Going this far just to say "I'm not gay I just like chicks with dicks"
I'm fucking dying

>>54479021
>searching up definitions and copypasting them somehow takes a significant amount of effort
wew lad

>>54478990
You know that feeling when you see something that is mostly enjoyable but there is just some detail that bugs you? You try to ignore it and focus on the good parts, but the more you try to do it the more it bothers you? It was like that.

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>>54477018
Hermaphrodites, obviously.

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>>54478680>>54478739>>54478807
Sex isn't even necessary. Nature finds a way. It is usually weird, unsettling and horrifying all at once. Like a dread which only increases over time.
http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/09/30/bdelloid-rotifers-80-million-years-without-sex/
>While many animals, from aphids to Komodo dragons, can reproduce asexually from time to time, it’s incredibly rare to find a group that have abandoned sex altogether. The bdelloid rotifers (pronounced with a silent b) are an exception.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/18/bdelloid-rotifers-sex-dna_n_2152426.html
>In the study, scientists discovered that up to 10 percent of the active genes in microscopic bdelloids comes from bacteria and other organisms like fungi and algae.

Pic unrelated.

>>54479021
Definitely looks like denial, doesn't it?

>>54479058
Nothing screams denial to me like posting objective definitions, next he"ll probably say some stupid shit like 1 + 1 = 2 because 2 is defined as the sum of 1 and 1.

>>54479038
>You know that feeling when you see something that is mostly enjoyable but there is just some detail that bugs you?
Yeah, like someone drawing a fucking penis on a woman.

>>54479042
Looks like that car got... rear-ended. http://cow.org/csi/

>>54479017
You know, most straight men do fine just jerking off to a picture of a naked lady without replacing her genitalia with a penis.

>>54478849
>futa aren't gendered
It's both two men fucking each other and two women fucking fucking each other, so futa on futa is gayer than traps, which are pretty damn gay.

>>54479102
Let's use a scale to determine how homosexual or not homosexual types of pornography would make a person be if they were to be sexually attracted to.
0 would be standard heterosexual porn.
1 would be homosexual porn of the same sex as the viewer.
-1 would be homosexual porn of the opposite sex as the viewer, as it is essentially is absolute sexual attraction to a sex that is not the same.
Hermaphrodites make up 1.7% of the world population, and for the sake of convenience, let's have the remaining 98.3% be evenly split between males and females, which would be 49.15%.
Finding the average would be adding -1 multiplied by the percentage converted to a standard decimal it would be absolutely not gay to, 0 multipled by the percentage it would be straight to (which means we can ignore this equation as 0 x anything = 0) and 1 multiplied by the percentage of the population it would be homosexual to then divided by 100 to find where it lands on the scale.
Yuri and Gay porn would be gay to females or males respectively, and not gay to hermaphrodites and the opposite sex.
-49.15 + -1.7 + 49.15 = -1.7
-1.7 / 100 = -0.017
Futa on male and Futa on female would be straight to the sexes involved and absolutely not gay to the sex not involved.
-49.15 + 0 + 0
= -49.15 / 100
= -0.4915
Heterosexual porn would be -0.017
Futa on futa is absolute not gay to female and males, and gay to hermaphrodites
=-49.15 + -49.15 + 1.7
= 96.6 / 100
= -0.966
Ergo futa on futa is the straightest porn on average.

>>54479078
Anon, lets NOT start getting into the enormous, unexplainable oddity that is human sexuality.
Also, your example would make a lot more sense if you said:
>most straight men do fine just having sex with women
but you may not be too familiar with that :^)
>>54479102
I haven't seen this pasta in years, anon.

>>54479075
*shrug* That didn't bother me so much.

>>54479108
Good luck finding a guys to fuck without proving that you're gay.

>>54478849
>rarely balls too
I guess you haven't seen any of the sfm works flooding porn nowadays. 99% of the time it's dick and balls and it's fucking baffling. Why even go through the extra effort of animating them?

>>54479106
You say this as if hermaphrodites were their own gender, which they aren't. Either they are both or they're one or the other.
So futa on woman is as gay as futa on man, but less gay than futa on futa.
So it's is actually the opposite conclusion to your presented answer.

>>54479114
Because you're broken. I understand now, you people are worse than gay. You're outright mentally defective.

>>54479114
If you need to see a penis to get off, you're gay.

>>54478524
Ah, the ol' Volbeat and Illumise method

>>54479106
Or this pasta, either.
Wow, it's like the great /d/ futa wars of '10 are being fought all over again.
>>54479123
Wut? I need a translator.
>>54479125
I'm not speaking of sfm shemales, which is mostly a western affair, I'm speaking of futa, because that is topical to this website.

>>54479131
Wrong. Hermaphrodites are their own sex, for a female does not qualify under the definition of male and vice versa, ergo it must be its own sex.

>>54479148
He's saying that the closest you'll get to fucking a futa irl is fucking a guy.

>>54479151
Female is defined by having female gametes, i.e. producing eggs. Male by producing sperm. A hermaphrodites does both, so it is both.

>>54479017
That only explains futa on female, which only autists consider gay anyway. What about futa on futa or futa on male, though?

>>54479132
So your argument here is "Waah! Waah! You don't like what like and like something I don't Waah! There must be something fundamentally wrong with you!" That is one of the oldest, weakest and over used ways to try to weasel out of having to defend your possession on something is human history.

>>54479168
>he thinks females qualify under the definition of male and vice versa
Sounds pretty gay and wrong dude.

>>54479042
Let me guess, car got fucked by a dragon?

>>54479145
Thing is I don't. I also like solo female stuff and girl on girl.

>>54479151
They produce sperm?
They're male.
They produce eggs?
They're female.
So there's no mythical 3rd gender to hide behind, it is the gayest form of porn.
Actually does anyone remember that non-h manga of a futa trying to get a boyfriend? That was a cute read.

>>54477124
I thought I was the only one who read those books

>>54479168
>Female is defined by having female gametes, i.e. producing eggs
Why are ant workers considered female then?

>>54479197
>hermaphrodites are mythical
>females qualify under male definition
>males qualify under female definition
That's pretty wrong and gay my dude.

>>54479175
Nope.

>>54479176
Anon, you're deranged. It's okay, we're in modern times and we let all kinds of mentally ill people roam the streets. I accept your right to be a sick motherfucker, but it doesn't change that you're a sick motherfucker.

>>54479214
Because people have an innate need to try and fit unusual things into their existing worldview when they clearly don't.

>>54479175
>futa on futa
Not gay the vast majority of the time, as most futa have functioning vaginas.
>futa on male
Gay by definition of the act of sex.
I feel silly I have to explain this to grown men.

>>54479229
The correct answer would be because they're produced from the same eggs as the queens are, just raised differently

Here's some truth for you guys. Scenarios.

Futa on pure female = New Game+, none of the gay ALL of the perks. Two female bodies + penetrative intercourse. 0% gay. Negative gay ratio.

Male on Female = default vanilla sex, a tiny amount of gay seeing as the spectator is focusing on balls slapping against the female body, male oiled ripped chest rubbing against female body. Close shots on the chiseled male face when he's ejaculating. Male moans. 10%++ gay.

Female + Female. Boring sex. No comment needed. 50% gay if no strap-on or other toy is used, you don't desire to penetrate women.

Male + Male, exciting and curious unnatural penetrative sex. 100% gay. At least something is being penetrated. It would be 0% gayness if there was no male bodies involved.


/thread

-Gg

>>54479217
Your gay, anon. It's nothing to be ashamed about. We forgive you.

>>54479242
Errata;
For Futa+Futa refer to the Male + Male tab.

>>54479217
I'm not wrong, you are by assigning a third gender that does not exist.
Like saying that taking a shit while taking a piss at the same time is its own form of waste rather just pissing and shitting.
Hermaphrodite is not a gender.
Even humorist you and saying it is still makes futa on futa as gay as two men assfucking each other since they're the same gender, size of said gender ratio is irrelevant.
On all fronts your argument holds no water.

>>54479245
>envisions real life as a world where males can fuck each other as a valid form of procreation
>envisions non-males as males when viewing sex
Sounds like you're gay to me my dude.

>>54479214
They are? Only drones are considered male. Is this modern edyumacasion at work?

>>54479266
>on all fronts that are retarded your objective argument holds no water
Fixed that for you. :^)

>>54479256
Futa+Futa is objectively the most heterosexual form of sex viewable.

>>54477826
>Jesus christ!
Indeed, he was produced asexually as well.

>>54479242
>no futa on male
Yes it's gay, but I don't care. Something about seeing a futa getting impregnated does something to me.

>>54479242
>/threading your own post
>-Gg
>being this wrong
Have you tried not being the objectively biggest faggot to exist any time lately?

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>futa on girl
Alright, it's basically heterosexual fucking but you are too insecure to look at a male.
>futa with giant horsecock fucking a girl
That's pretty gay, anon.
>futa fucking another futa
You like dick, anon.
>futa with giant horsecock fucking another futa with giant horsecock
You like dick way too much, anon.
>solo futa with giant horsecock
There is no denying at this point, the dick is central for your masturbation.
>futa fucking a guy
Migtht as well wear a skirt and suck dick in a dark alley for money.

>>54479226
We also have free speech and easy mass communication which has the unfortunate but unavoidable side effect of letting people who only know how to respond to people questioning their stance on something with ad hominem.

>>54479273
Drones are male, workers and queens are both female, but workers are unable to produce offspring. The difference between the two types of females is in the developmental stage.
Ants and bees work the same way in this regard

>>54479324
>futa fucking another futa
It is objectively the most heterosexual form of pornography viewable and has been calculated as such.

>>54479296
Futa + Futa

The penetrator is being penetrated.

It's the epitome of gayness. 100% gay.

/thread

>>54479337
read,
>>54479351

>>54479285
>objective argument
You don't even know what female or male are.

>>54479351
>>54479367
Objectively wrong.
Futa + Futa is where a sex neither male nor female are engaging in sex, thus it is completely anti-homosexual for both males and females to view. Ergo it is -100% gay, the antithesis of homosexuality.

>>54479332
Workers effectively never go trough "puberty" because they arent fed enough nutrients to develop it during the early stages of their lives.
Workers are effectively all smol girls
while Princesses are going through puberty and Queens are fully developed Females

>>54479373
>I believe that males qualify under the definition of female and vice versa
>but it's you who doesn't know what males and females are
:^)

>>54479377
It would be homosexual for futas.

>>54479388
Ayup

>>54479377
The penetrator is being penetrated.

It is submissive to be penetrated.

It is wrong to be penetrated when you're the penetrator.

Double submissiveness + "I wish I was had two bodies that got penetrated at the same time" = gay.

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I'll just leave this here.

>>54479399
And completely anti-homosexual for non-futas, as the human population is comprised entirely of non-futas, it is calculated to be in fact the most anti-homosexual porn for the entire human population.

Isn't this thread so much fun now?

>>54479409
>has to recite the same argument already debunked and proven wrong
>uses bullshit mathematics that he somehow managed to fuck up
Futa =/= Male
Homosexuality = Sexual attraction to same sex
Ergo futa is not gay for they are not male.

>>54479420
Desire to be penetrated = gay.

Fantasizing that you're a woman being penetrated = double gay.

>>54479396
Let's see
Male: of or denoting the sex that produces small, typically motile gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring
Female: of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.
A futa falls under both so a futa is both, making futa on futa the gayest porn ever conceived by man.

>>54479441
I didn't mention male or futa in my post.

Wake up.

The penetrator is being penetrated.

Desiring to be penetrated is gay.

Wait and ponder before you reply, hysterics are feminine.

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>>54478251
>>54477945
I rather like this answere, depending on the setting and species this can have Many effects on their culture to explore after the players get a good laugh about it, for example if they are civilized enough how do they avoid rooster in the hen house set ups for their prisons or schools etc. How do they divide up labor without a technically more disposable gender? So many things to explore, or It could even be why despite their intelligence they have yet to develop a complex society

>>54479456
>I believe that males qualify under the female sex
>I believe that females qualify under the male sex
>I believe that a futanari is functionally two opposite mutually exclusive sexes
That's quite the mental gymnastics you got there friend.

>>54479437
Seeing futafags trying to justify why they'ren't colossal dick loving faggots is always funny.

>>54479441
A penis is a PRIMARY gender-organ thing while Tits are Secondary. Unless the Futa also has a Pussy theyre 100% Male and otherwise Both-gendered

>>54479463
And nowhere have you proven that the desire to be penetrated is gay, nor have you proven how homosexuality isn't entirely based around sexual attraction to the same sex when it has been proven by definition.

Not sure why you all are getting caught up in the "PENIS" argument.

It doesn't matter if you're penetrated with a PENIS, BLACK DILDO or a FIST, it's still gay

>>54479474
Nothing screams shitty justifications to me like posting objective definitions, next they"ll probably say some stupid shit like 1 + 1 = 2 because 2 is defined as the sum of 1 and 1.

>>54479472
>I can't read and am insecure
A futa falls under both because it's both, nothing about either definition says that it's exclusive from the other one.

>>54479226
Well you can go on thinking that for the rest of your life, have fun being afraid of everything

>>54479452
So all straight cisgendered women are gay. Got it.

>>54477629
>if there's only one sex does it mean a species is sexless?
No, because it's vital that the creators consider all the thirsty male humans who will want to have sex (pretend) with them.

>>54479513
>cis
At least we know you are an aids riddled faggot.

>>54479236
I like you, never been all that into futa on male (unless shemale or it leads into gender transformation) and even then my stance on shemale has always been wishy washy. That said from a technical stano point futa on futa is gay for the futa as it is for them, homosexual

>>54479506
You know people tend to use greentext in that manner to implicate what the other person is doing or is, not implicate what they themselves are doing.
Also keep screaming about your delusions on how males qualify under female definition and vice versa and how a being can be two mutually exclusive sexes, I'm sure your mental gymnastics will bear fruit.

>>54479474
I got nothing to justify.
https://nhentai.net/g/198417/

>>54479452
This is what happens when people try to make things too black and white, they become incapale of enjoying things outside vanilla, pity them

>>54478539
well, they did try to appeal to women back then,which fucked them hard

>>54479324
Look at all this projection.

>>54479474
Justify? This is the internet, you don't know jack shit about me, I don't have to justify a goddamn thing, I was simply trying to inform you about something and you responded by plugging your ears and screaming in a loop.

>>54479463
>same total number of penises and vaginas
>gay
I think you're doing it wrong, anon

>>54479531
Eh, I was just trying to be as specific and technical as possible while being a smart ass. I could have said non-trans but I wanted to use the more proper Latin derivative.

>>54479197
You shouldn't try to define biological terms if you skipped biology 101 class.

>>54479537
You can only be in a state of denial for so long anon, you need to accept your fallacies for what they are.

>>54479561
>urethral insertion
NOPE, I may be a dick loving futa fag but holy shit nope

>>54479616
Ah yes, how dare I a straight cis man dare say that males don't qualify under the definition of females and vice versa, how dare I oppose your fallicious and wrong viewpointd, tumblrman, or should I call you tumblrwoman?

>>54479612
It is very simple anon, just check off the description that applies to you.
Futas merely tick off both boxes since they apply to them, no need to invent some snowflake gender when a term that describes them (but isn't actually a gender mind you) exists.

>>54479489
Homosexuality across the whole spectrum is a non-factor in this discussion.

We know that penetrating someone is dominant male attribute.

Being penetrerad is passive, submissive and feminine.

Do you dispute this ?

I'm considering that you're just grasping at straws.

>>54479608
Now I see why you're so defensive you smelly LGBTQ redditor.

Leave.

>>54477018
Could be from a gender split of an ancestral race, and then perpetuated through asexual/non-sexual means.
Had these two race for a space opera setting I'm making, which the initial species dabbled in cybernetics and genetic tampering... and a ton of wars, so much so that the homeworld is starting to go down in habitability. And so, after cloning and same-sex egg fertilization via biotech, in a concerted move the majority of females left the homeworld. The females then reproduce using the same-sex egg fertilization, while the males left behind ups their cyberneticization to the extreme and perfects the cloning mechanism. So the end result is the males turn into cloned brains in combat robot bodies with nanites serving as their blood and DNA information transferral, while the females can adapt their DNA to look like what is in vogue (and after receiving TV broadcasts from Earth, they decided to look like female humans).

>>54479640
You know hermaphrodites exist in the real world, right?

>>54479645
>claims futa on futa is gay to view
>is proven wrong
>backtracks and moves the goalposts to solely penetration and femininity and masculinity
And you still haven't proven how futa on futa means someone desires getting penetrated.

>>54479621
>urethral insertion

That is pretty tame, you should look up penis birth someday.

>>54479645
>repeats the same argument that has already been refuted as nob logic

>claims it hasnt

By your defanition female sea horses would be male

>>54479645
So wait, so if a female ties down a man and rides their penis then the woman is being submissive because she's being penetrated and the man is being dominant because he is penetrating is this scenario?

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>>54479621
You've entered the rabbit hole already anon. The only place left to go is down.

>>54479669
No no, you dumb straight cis male, hermaphrodites are just female males and male females, even though they're opposites, I bet you don't even think all slugs and other hermaphroditic animals are twokin and are actually two souls in the same body you cis scum.

>>54479637
You are in the wrong for saying that, not for any gender nonsense but because you're an idiot.
Normally if something is male then they don't produce eggs, same for females (they don't produce sperm). But if something comes along thay does both like say flowers then it is not a third Tumblrgender but merely both at the same time.

>>54479688
Enough arguing, I don't care if what I like is gay strait or some manner of super rainbow, I like what I like, post more fembulges

>>54479669
Yes, but hermaphrodite isn't a gender. It merely means that they are both genders.
Simple concept but apparently hard to grasp.

>>54479689
Yes. It doesn't stop there.

When a female is raping a male, she's still being penetrated. You see where I'm going with this.

>>54479677
You did nothing to refute my argument. A male desiring or visualizing himself to be penetrated is gay. You have multiple ways of arguing against this notion but you only start talking about dicks and pussies effectively fleeing the discussion.

>>54479688
Not male, but dominant.

A male desiring to be dominated and penetrated is gay.

>>54479700
>hermaphrodites are a tumblrgender
>slugs are only fantasy creatures created by tumblr
>it definitely couldnt be that males don't qualify under female definition it must be that slugs are actually two genders at the same time which definitely is not tumblr at all
:^)

>>54477018
asexual reproduction leads to an entirely same-chemical society, based on a non-mutative state of being.

Most people act the same because society quickly finds something that works and stick to it.

Technology rises, but slowly depending on the total knowledge of a need to change. It depends on how stubborn the race is due to a biological impairment. Humans, for instance, are biologically stubborn unless they find a reason to not be.

>>54479730
So by your defanition all male seahorses, are gay.

>>54479730
>a male desiring or visualizing himself to be penetrated is gay
You have neither proven that nor have you proven how futa on futa makes a male desire such. In addition, you have been proven wrong, for the definition of homosexuality/gay has been posted and clearly contradicts your claim.

What is even being talked about anymore?

Wanting dick up your ass is gay.

Futafags aren't gay for they don't want dick up the ass. They instead worship the dick as a spiritual totem, a warped, fetishistic icon that sits somewhere between the purgatories of footfaggotry and scat fetishism.

Neither of these things have anything to do with OP's question.

>>54479665
That is an interesting stance to take. I wonder how you came to the conclusion I am a "smelly LGBTQ redditor" when I clarified I was just being a smart ass and the only thing I said remotely related to any of those things is some technical Latin derivative term coined by some old German dude.

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>>54479736
>if it goes against my fetishes then it's tumblr

>>54479730
Does that make a guy who'ssubmissive in any way gay? Oh he let's his girl top him. He's gay!

>>54479757
>worship the dick as a spiritual totem
Like our primitive forefathers did

>>54479765
>believing things can be two genders at the same time and that males can be females as well and vice versa is now somehow not tumblr
:^)

>>54479753
Not him, but I still don't understand the purpose of futa on futa. Why do both parties need dicks? I thought the dick was only a method of projection? Are you projecting onto the the fuckee as well as the fucker? For what possible reason?

>>54479757
I don't even know anymore, I'm just enjoying the ride and waiting for more herms because the best of both worlds makes me Ferrum phallus

>>54479730
>When a female is raping a male, she's still being penetrated. You see where I'm going with this.
I... no not really? Unless you are trying to be sarcastic I am completely lost.

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>>54479770
Nah they worshipped the bbw

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>>54479775
>if I say Tumblr enough times I win despite being wrong

>>54477018
A: They're all fully-functioning hermaphrodites
B: They use a different/other species to incubate or fertilize
C: They've all got incubating and fertilizing parts internally, and just pop out babies at a given point in their life.
D: Magic

>>54477044
Multicellular organisms can't into reproduction via mitosis, and it would be horrific if they could.

>>54479770
So you're saying futafags are literal caveman?

>I'm a guy, I want to be fucked in ,my imaginary pussy
That's gay
>LOL NO SEAHORSES ARE NOT GAY

>>54479797
There was plenty of both. Look up satyrs

>>54479783
Because Futa x Futa is the gayest that you can go without it becoming unquestionably homo.

>>54479801
>if I ignore everything my opponent says and scream about how he calls me Tumblr I win despite being objectively wrong

>>54479783
It's because it involves a fantasy where both parties can expierence the full spectrum of sexual pleasure that single seed indivisuals can only guess on. "Best of both worlds" and the like, futa is often liked by those who in some way want to have their cake and eat it too, also it's kinda hot to have them both get it from the other and then very sweet to see them both go in full mom mode as the pregnancies progress

>>54479815
An anon brought that up as this was a biology argument, not a social argument

>>54479820
You aren't supposed to describe yourself in greentext you know.

>>54479804
>Multicellular organisms can't into reproduction via mitosis, and it would be horrific if they could.
They didn't mention mitosis, they just said asexually, which your
>C: They've all got incubating and fertilizing parts internally, and just pop out babies at a given point in their life.
would be considered an example of.

>>54479828
And I need to proofread my posts more. Sorry

>>54479797
how do we know this was actually worshipped, and not the same as a teen drawing Tits and dicks on a wall?

>>54479814
Ancient Greeks at best. They had some of hermaphrodite worship in their mystery cults. Dionysius cults, if I'm not wrong

>>54479819
So I have a question, what do you think of Anons that say futa is gayer then male x male?

>>54479783
I like futa on futa because of the domination factor of the futa doing the fucking against the futa being fucked and how the reverse could have happened but didn't, as opposed to futa on female where the reverse couldn't have happened at all barring something like strapons but it might as well be female on female with strapons at that point.
I also like it with monstergirls of differing species and after fighting with the winner fucking the loser because it adds to the domination factor and also makes it so the fitter and more dominant species is essentially passing on her genes.

>>54479865
Actually Hermaphroditus (or Hermaphroditos), which is where the term Hermaphrodite comes from.

>>54479879
I'm sick of arguing with him, so I will try world building with you. Do you think that herms can have a society resembling what we've had in history or are they too different socially and would end up trapped in the hunter gather state?

>>54479850
>no u
You aren't supposed to exactly highlight your incapability of reading you know.

>>54479817
Satyrs, along with centuars, were some massive greek commentary on savage peoples and how base and simple they were, thus inferior to the more civilized greeks. They thought the engorged phallus to be a silly thing worthy of mockery and you'll notice all the heroes that battle and overcome these beasts and their swollen dicks had small flaccid cocks themselves. This somehow also played into their simmering disdain for women, show that their desire for and subjugation to cock made them the weaker sex. Of course when the men went fucking little boys all day it was okay, because they wanted them for their sweet buttholes and not their little flapping dicks.

Suffice to say, the greeks were fucking basketcases.

>>54477044
I'm pretty sure the Asari actually have both gametes within a single individual and when they do that nervous system link thing, are capable of scrambling their male gamete to a semi-random pattern that is influenced by whatever their partner is. So Asari only have one biological parent.

>>54479890
Amusingly that story is literally an ancient TF/Transgender/Fusion ero story.

>>54479939
Ahh fusion, under rated tf fetish

>>54479902
Castration would become a common thing

>>54479890
True, but we don't know if this figure actually was worshipped in any real way. This kind of stuff mostly avoided records

>>54479966
Isn't it? Hard to find good content for.

>>54479879
So you get off to someone being defeated?

>>54479801
saying tumbler doesn't make him wrong either

Genders, in the sense of a mental state of self-identification, are purely constructs. The terms sex and gender are functionally synonyms, only separated for academic purposes by scientists studying the differences in mentality between modern men and women, the bulk of which began in the 1950s.
Their findings supported the notion that "gender," in this case the behavioral aspect of a given sex, is largely self-built, based on the projected social expectations of the environment the individual was raised in. There are quantifiable chemical differences between the brains of men and women, but at the end of the day one's behavior is largely, if not mostly determined by their memories and life experiences.
Laymen, always wanting to make things as simple as possible, and being prone to structuring binary stances even where there are none, still refuse to think of genders as anything other than A or B, and hence many have misinterpreted these findings to mean they can chose to be a man or a woman, when in fact they support the notion that gender, again in the technical sense of being the behavioral aspects of a sex, are functionally psychosomatic.
To identify as the opposite sex is no more or less deranged than identifying as an animal or a non-existent being. It's textbook disassociate behavior, typically indicative of deeply rooted trauma or depression.
The only quantifiable aspects of a person's sex are their chromosomes, which you are born with and cannot change. The mental aspects, or "gender," if you must, does not exist. The misconception that an object, action, or way of life is intrinsically masculine or feminine is an artifact of outdated societal gender rolls as well, and also needs to be outmoded.

>>54479852
they directly referenced single-cellular organisms, which exclusively reproduced through mitosis
dipshit

>>54480026
Something about two lovers coming together as one being. Whole and complete, it's hot, and they always go for predatory absorption instead

>>54480089
You know, normal people just get off to consensual sex in the missionary position while holding hands to achieve that feeling

>>54480058
The mental side never entered into the argument, just the biology of making sperm or eggs. Or both.

>>54480109
God no, you fucking sicko!

>>54479902
Hermaphrodites could possibly have a society similar to what we had in the past, but it'd presumably be who fulfills the roles as soldiers that would be complicated.

Society could be split into two main classes of alphas and betas, the alphas fulfilling the roles as males essentially and the betas fulfilling the roles as females, but alpha and beta roles being able to change.

Alternatively, a species of hermaphrodites could have warriors on the basis of whoever's not pregnant taking the role as warriors, with only dire situations calling for pregnant hermaphrodites to fight as well, this would lead to generally less soldiers on average compared to its equivalent to a real world army.

If it were monstergirl hermaphrodites with a large amount of races/subspecies with vast differences between them, a class divide would probably more than likely happen between races but less concrete than just alphas and betas and more based on a somewhat unstable hierarchy with the fitter races/subspecies at the top and the weaker races/subspecies at the bottom with those at the top forming the primary group of soldiers.
>>54480039
Kind of, yeah.

>>54480152
>Kind of, yeah.
I know it's perfectly natural and pretty much the foundation of all animal sexuality, but I still can't help being disturbed when someone's fetish relies on taking pleasure in another person broken and subjugated.

Does...does that make me the deviant?

>>54479298
He wasn't produced at all, no more than Xenu the galactic warrior was.

>>54479967
>>54479902

Rape would be a huge deal in terms of showing who is in charge.

Someone is challenging the leader? Rape them into submission

>>54480266
https://youtu.be/n3BqLZ8UoZk
>had sex in order to produce

>>54479840
I said that a man getting fucked by a dick is gay.

I didn't state it was biological or social.

Holy hell. Did you guys even go to school? The eternal dropout.

>>54480313
I'm okay with being gay if the dick belongs to a cute girl.

>>54480331
First honest reply in this whole thread.

Thank you.

>>54480313
Unless the man is also fucking a woman. Then he is bisexual, which is not quite as bad.

>>54477018

Female race is human with her own specialized changes. The changes are all wrapped up in a modified X chromosome. She needs an unmodified X from a donor to create a viable egg (Y chromosome will fertilize but the egg won't be viable and doesn't begin cell division).

So monster girl needs a human male. Moreover, her species needs a steady supply of human males. So there are a few approaches that might work.

One is to seduce men individually, breed with them, and then either keep them to help care for the young (leaving them unavailable to breed human offspring) or release them (leaving her alone to tend her daughter's).

This might not be so bad if she's breeding with surplus men from a polygamous culture, men who would otherwise be childless.

The other is to integrate with human families as a second wife. Why might the human wife permit this? The two scenarios I see are parasitism or symbiotism. Maybe the monster girl uses pheromones or mind control. Maybe she seduces the wife as well, taming her with sexual pleasure that leaves her quiveringly compliant.

The monstergirl might be a symbiont. Maybe her powers help the family. Perhaps she protects her mate's human children as well.

Or, most likely, both. Let's say it's a snake girl. She joins a family, her forked tongue pleasuring both husband and wife even as she nurtures and protects the family with her powers. She goes out at night to fish and hunt, helping to support the entire family.

When she lays an egg, she goes into sexual overdrive. The woman experiences ecstasy that leave her panting and exhausted in foggy sexual bliss. Then she services her man, sucking him off again and again and then ritually smearing the egg in her nest with his sperm. About half the time the egg isn't viable. The other half of the time, a daughter hatches, who the snake girl nurses through childhood.

>>54477547
>>54477551
There's also plenty of animals that are hermaphroditic (rather than having distinct males and females, every individual has both male and female reproductive organs). Aside from virtually all snails and many other invertebrates, multiple fish are also hermaphroditic.

>>54480345
After the faggotry of this thread this post is a welcome one.
Like a less cancerous version of KC's work.

>>54480073
No he said microorganisms which includes things like bdelloids.

>>54479797
>there are people who still don't know those are self-portraits by bored pregnant women

>>54480058

These are largely political declarations with little or no basis in science. John Money's work was widely cited making claims like this. It turned out later that he was a fabulist whose ideologically-driven theories drove his most famous patient to misery and eventually suicide. Look up the David Reimer case. Feminist activists ground their "gender is socially constructed" beliefs in Marxist theory, but still use work like Money's to give it a patina of scientific legitimacy.

>>54480089
>>>/trash/sug

>>54478446
Same reason furries do, I guess.

their fetish is autistic

>>54480345
Your language makes it hard for me to tell whether this was an honest answer to OP's question or a thinly veiled excuse the jack off while typing monstergirl smut.

>>54480421

Thanks. As to how such a creature evolves? IMO cut the middle man and say it's magic. I can think of all kinds of reasons why some archimage or deity drunk on ideology, philosophy, or sexual /d/egeneracy might create the first few creatures and let things evolve from there.

>>54480513

Embrace the healing power of "yes".

If I'm straddling that line, then that's a high compliment. It means I'm reaching back to the finest traditions of /tg/.

>>54480234
I mean I guess so.
>>54480513
It's probably both.

>>54480345
I like the idea of monster girls as symbiotic third partners. Monstergirls are physically superior to humans, so the offspring of men and monstergirls are much more likely to survive. But since monstergirls require human men to reproduce, and human men can only come from a union of human men and women, both human men and monstergirls need human couples to exist. Additionally, a human woman whose offspring have monstergirl half-siblings and stepmothers will be more likely to survive, since they'll be better protected from predators and disasters. So ultimately the species simply evolves into an ideal thruple - man, woman, and monstergirl living together in harmony, raising their family together.

>>54480665
Harmony is a strong word.

>>54480665
>Additionally, a human woman whose offspring have monstergirl half-siblings and stepmothers will be more likely to survive
Siblings usually compete more than they protect each other. Having a monstergirl sister would mean someone ends up neglected when times get hard, and it's probably not going to be the one with fangs and the strength of two men

>>54480703
Maybe. Lack of jealousy is a better term, I suppose. If all three partners accept the necessity of the other two the relationship will be stronger, and all three will be more likely to pass on their genes long-term.

>>54480753
>>54480770
>you were always the runt
>your sister had the looks, the strength, and the attention
>after growing up you're expected to now share a husband with her, a husband that will no doubt favor her and the children they make together
I imagine a lot of resentment.

>>54480665
but what about monsterboys?

>>54480770
>Accepting a literal monster into your home, letting it fuck your man, then be forced to raise your child next to it's own broodspawn
I can see some problems developing

>>54477018
>>One-gender race
>How does that even work ?

Basically you need a whole race that are too unintelligent to socially construct another gender.

>>54480835
If those exist too then why would they even fuck humans instead of each other?

>>54480903
But what if there were no monstergirls

>>54480835
>monsterboys need human women
>monstergirls need human men
>can't just switch
The family structure is a weird one.

>>54480866
I imagine these wouldn't be that much of an issue if the woman was raised that way, and her mother, and her mother, so and on for centuries.
Like how by the Zero series people and reploids got married and no one really cared. This would have been a headliner by the early x series.

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>>54477018
A male is born every hundred years.

>>54480918
We do the same thing we did to every other human species and large animal.
Murder them and eat their flesh.

>>54480903
They can't. They're a ring species - monsterboys can reproduce with human women, monstergirls can reproduce with human men, but they can't reproduce with each other.

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>>54477018

>>54480956
That's a race that should have died out a long time ago.

>>54479859
We don't know, but we do know that no serious researcher calls her a venus anymore.

>>54480835

You just shut your fucking mouth right now.

>>54480956
This is a complex ecosystem. Two whole parasite species latching onto the one for continued existence.

>>54481106
Is monstershota better?

>>54481123
They probably were originally one species, but diverged over time after becoming geographically separated.

>>54481352
How the hell does a species get separated from it's opposite sex?

>>54477554
>>54477575

Discworld Dwarves might fit this bill. Both male and female Dwarves have beards and are indsitinguishable from one another in terms of gender. Dwarven courtship, then, consists largely of trying to discretely ascertain the other Dwarfs gender.

>>54481144
Nay, the best solution is just monstergirls, but they're all futanari.

>>54480297
The ravings of a cult are worthless.

>>54481512
Magic.

>>54481573
>monster futas with a craving for human men
I dig it.

>>54481670
Nay, not a craving for men, but for each other.