/pgg/ /pfg/ - Downtime Edition

>>54462571
>only /pgg/ /pfg/
>not /pgg/ /pfg/ /sfg/
Shiggy diggy.

where is everyone

>>54462571
We usually do our shopping. My character hits the bars and the baths, if possible. She's been trying to learn how to meditate from the monk, but she struggles to sit still. Sometimes we do downtime roleplay things, which are fun.

>>54463147
Fucked off from this cancerous thread.

>>54463147
I'm at the store. Want anything?

>>54463147
It's a saturday, all fucked off to their games and videogames or boozing it up alone

>>54463238
I could use about tree fiddy.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/81935/essentia-our-last-days (Ends in 5 days)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82673/iron-gods (Ends in 2 weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83254/carnal-crown (Ends in 2 weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83277/the-fiends-and-intrigues-of-house-karvane (Ends in 1 month)

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>>54463147
Waiting on players at the LGS.

>>54463335
I'm really getting a bamboozle vibe on Iron gods and Intrigue.

>>54463278
I'll be boozing alone before depression gaming at 2300. It's only 1100 now, so I've got time.

>>54463450
>tfw too big of a pussy to booze up alone

it's just no fun by yourself

>>54463569
It's not a good thing, honestly. Not doing it alone is way better.

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We can probably start working on a response for the inevitable "I want to run Starfinder, wat do?" questions.

I propose the following:

Nothing from Pathfinder
No 7th level or higher spells

>>54463440
I can see Iron Gods, given that the DM was MIA for a week, but why on Intrigue?

>>54463791
A lot of material necessary to make a proper app is still missing.
Most importantly description of the factions, their benefits, etc.
The apps that are already submitted there are mostly dumb weeb poster shit with serious ERP vibes, meaning they are only done because their authors didn't put much thought besides "This makes my peepee hard" into them.

>>54464046
>The apps that are already submitted there are mostly dumb weeb poster shit with serious ERP vibes
What?
Could you elaborate? Which apps do you think are ERP shit and why? Well, besides the obvious Tamamo.

>>54463278
God, I wish I had a good game to no-life right about now. I've been playing oodles of Subnautica but I need something new, you dig?

>>54464100
Have you tried Dragon's Dogma?

>>54463791
>IG Bamboozle
Not a fucking gain.

I hate Kobolds so much, everyone who plays them are insufferable.

>Reserved Wheat

>>54464046
>Most importantly description of the factions
When I applied to Intrigue, I simply extensively discussed this with the DM to flesh my character out. PM's are always an option that is on the table.
>their benefits, etc.
One of the threads says everyone starts without any mechanical faction benefits and may only gain those after game start, so it's irrelevant for apping.

>>54464100
Try Titanfall 2. The movement system in the game is super fun and if you run around like a madman with a projectile weapon it feels quite a bit like old style quake

>>54463774
I don't even want it in the Starfinder setting. Give me a new system.

>>54464128
You're insufferable

>>54464111
I have not, though I've heard a lot about it! Not sure if swording fantasy is something I want, though.

>>54464145
The only thing that's kept me from buying that is the clear emphasis on Multiplayer.

If I put Re: in a game name, would it be an instant red flag?

>>54464177
Why are you putting Re: in the campaign name?

>>54464189
Re: Zero

>>54464189
For a pun.

>>54464177
Yes. It shows that your a flavor of the month cockgobbler. Get better taste.

>>54464172
I mean, Dogma is animeish and utterly ridiculous. It doesn't take itself seriously except on occasion. Play it, it's great.

>>54464208
What pun? What's the campaign you're planning to make?

>>54464177
I'm pretty sure that would make a lot of the self-proclaimed "anime connoisseur" autists that hang around absolutely REEEEEE

>>54464227
>A game not taking itself seriously is a compliment
>Anime is a positive description

>>54464303
>REEEEEE
>not RE:EEEEE
You failed senpai.

>>54464227
I mean I thought the game took itself reasonably seriously for the most part. It's mostly the culture of the fanbase and the fucking silly nature of Pawns that make people think it's silly.

Calling it animeish also seems off.

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>>54464327
I FAILED YOU, MASTER

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>>54464152
This is just in general.

How about a Star Fox setting? It's likely to come up often in /pgg/

>>54464466
Fuck yes

>>54464466
>Star Fox setting

I'd rather have Dead Space or Halo.

>>54464466
>>54464530

Not going to lie, all of those sound like they could be fun.

>>54464475
Thinking about it, this and Macross' reliance on fighter planes would really sell the science fiction setting.

Now we combine it with Talespin, the PCs are future couriers and have to deal with pirates and the Corp that wants payments on their ship.

>>54464530
Maybe you can clarify something for me.

In Halo 2 and 3, Earth is kibble and all the other colonies have been destroyed. How is it that Himanity turns that around and it looks like the Elites are the refugees in 5?

>>54464615
MAAA CUU ROSS

>>54464615
Because the current writers of Halo are bad?

>>54464615
>All the other colonies are destroyed

Not true, the war decimated Humanity but it was just that, a decimation.

>>54464530
>Dead Space

Campaign Title: Trouble on L.M.2. Station

Summary: PCs arrive on a nice sized space station, unaware that is being used as a testing lab by Rain Poncho, Inc. to make all sorts of beasts. Of course, they escape and the PCs are at the opposite end of the station from their ships.

Can they survive?

Special Treat: Gene mods are littered throughout the station. Effects are permanent, but useful against the monsters. Will they become monsters as they try to fight them off?

>>54464706
I'll go with this?

>>54464715
Wouldn't they be full of Separatists who would want freedom from the UNSC in exchange for help?

>>54463774

The PCs get their start on Absalom station where they respond either as a friend of a friend or a close friend to a mistress to a brothel/bar. She's looking for "outsiders" to help uncover the death of one of her girls at the hands of weasel of a man who's the son of one of the wealthy crime families on Absalom but she also suspects he's planning something that can affect the whole of Absalom's underworld and the government itself.

As the PCs investigate they start uncovering numerous victims who have been scalped and their eyes taken....

What bloodline should I go with for a Wizard (Spellslinger) 1/Sorcerer X? I'm leaning towards Sage, but if there's anything fun or thematic you think I can do, please share.

Also, any archetypes I should consider? I can't take any other archetypes for the wizard, but if there's any neat ones I should consider for Sorcerer, I'd love to hear it.

>>54464978
Blasting, there's no reason to be a spellslinger if you aren't going to utilize those x3 spellcrits.

>>54463147
Helping my in-laws. Putting down some fungicide in the basement of my mother-in-laws. Then I've going to help my father-in-law sand some floors in one of the apartment's we own.

>ID the helicopter in this military sim
Okay captcha.

>>54464978
Orc bloodline.

>>54464978
It doesn't actually synergize in any particular way, but I think that the Umbral bloodline would be pretty cool as a Spellslinger, since you'd pretty much be a stealthy sniper that can even teleport around and switch places with allies once you get Shadow Veil. Just stay in shadows and let loose.

>>54465032
>Blasting
Blasting is not a bloodline or archetype, anon.

>>54465062
>Orc bloodline.
...why? The Arcana of +1 dmg per dice on spells?

>>54465099
>Umbral
That sounds pretty cool, honestly.

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Stat me, using Path of War.

>>54465186
Size/Type: Large Magical Beast
Hit Dice: 5d10+25 (52 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)
Armor Class: 15 (-1 size, +1 Dex, +5 natural), touch 10, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +5/+14
Attack: Claw +9 melee (1d6+5)
Full Attack: 2 claws +9 melee (1d6+5) and bite +4 melee (1d8+2)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Improved grab
Special Qualities: Scent
Saves: Fort +9, Ref +5, Will +2
Abilities: Str 21, Dex 12, Con 21, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 10
Skills: Listen +8, Spot +8
Feats: Alertness, Track
Environment: Temperate forests
Organization: Solitary, pair, or pack (3-8)
Challenge Rating: 4
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: 6-8 HD (Large); 9-15 HD (Huge)
Level Adjustment: —

>>54464978
Crossblood Orc/Draconic

What are must have items for a 5th level gish char?

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Stat me /pfg/

>>54465289
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_Saint_(Tactics)

>>54464978
>>54465149
Do a Spellslinger Bard instead. Let the sound of bullets be your music. Take Perform (Firearms).

>tfw Iron Gods bamboozled

>>54465450
What did he mean by this?

>>54465465
Iron Gods is not real.

>>54465465
Bamboozle is a term used around here to indicate that a person that said they were going to run a game ends up not running a game, sometimes for pretty valid IRL reasons and sometimes not.

>>54465480
Don't forget to tip your metal fedora.

>>54465480
Even so, I will make a robot fister.

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>>54465496

Would people here be interested in an all Kobold campaign?

>>54465332
>Spellslinger Bard
Goddamn you, I can't help but to consider it, but I can only imagine it sucking ass. Wizard (Spellslinger) 1/Bard (Mute Musician) X, Perform (Bullets), this character writes itself.

>>54462571
Usually get frisky, buy items, and plan our next move.

>>54465636

I don't know, occasionally, I want to fight more than one kind of monster.

>>54465636
Of course.

>>54465636
Which statline? Zethian or base?

Or both, but if you use baseline you might end up slightly more powerful later?

>>54465636
PLEASE THEIR DRACONIC MASTERS

>>54465636
>>54465636
Can't you tell a good story without race restricting to your fetish?

>>54465332
https://youtu.be/Y_oLivBA2o8?t=37s

>>54465733
I was just going to go Zethian but that's not a bad idea.

>>54465636
I'd honestly love this. I love focused scenarios and campaigns that go along a theme. With everyone being the same race/races, it's always interesting to see what people end up with.

My first idea is to make something Witch-y or Oracle-y, maybe even a Cleric, or refluff anything that can pass as priestly (I really wish there was something like a Bard for divine casters) and go on and on about the favour of the great dragons, claiming gospel.

>>54465636
If I played a Kobold campaign I'd want to have it essentially be a joke campaign with reference to how bad their stats are. Instead of going out to save the world a Kobold party's team mission is to try and retrieve a single cow to bring back to their Dragon master.

>>54465831
I.. I have no idea what's going on.

How big would a mech have to be to comfortable fit 5 or 6 pilots people inside?

>>54465934
Like all in the chest? Are we talking bipedal or a quadruped? Probably huge, maybe gargantuan for extra leg room, and I imagine you could size those two down for a quadraped.

>>54465934
>How big would a mech have to be
Colossal. Always. Nothing smaller ever.

>>54465916
>a joke campaign
Please no.

>>54465934
Depends on your setting, and technological levels. Do they each have to operate a limb or is it automated? Do they each need to man weapons or are subsystems not regulated?

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>>54465636
Only if it's got more to it than just "all kobold campaign" AND if you post the article on kobolds from Inner Sea Races in the LFG.

Also ideally the PCs are pic related (taken from Inner Sea Races). It might require you to make a custom stat line for them as playable races, but that's okay- IMO any campaign that restricts players to one race needs to have that race come with variable ability score modifiers (a flexible bonus like humans or variant heritages like tieflings) and you could have different colored kobolds get different stat lines.

>>54466097
I wanna play as Kobold King Black!

>>54466097
I actually use this as my origin for dragonkin...

>>54466048
Yeah, seconding. I'd much rather play a campaign about a joke race coming into their own under powerful PC leaders than one where the joke is played straight.

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>>54466097
Half-Dragon Kobold War campaign? I could get behind cutting a bloody path to glory for my father.

Why are you weirdos so obsessed with Kobolds.

>>54466186
You voiced it better than my "Please no". I enjoy races that are usually considered jokes both in-character and out of character being taken seriously, and while there'd obviously be the obligatory bumbling and general kobold-ness that marks them as the endless fuckups they in fact are, slapstick and ridiculous objectives get old really fucking fast.

Playing it straight doesn't mean it can't be funny, but I'd much rather see the party try to form a kobold ladder to reach tall windows and loose their grips as they try to actually achieve something, rather than just because lol so funny and it's all for a cow lol it doesn't matter I guess maybe lol.

My first thought of concept was some form of dragon priest, and it would be a fuckup and it would interpret "the signs" arbitrarily and it'd probably be pretty dumb, but when push came to shove it'd actually take things seriously because it doesn't want to die and any potential hilarity would be reinforced by the party and their trials and travails. It would actually be cool if at the end of the day there'd be the trope scene of selfish people that have grown to appreciate eachother and their group. Except it's the entire party, happy to proverbially backstab eachother until shit gets real.

>>54466338
why are you not

>>54466240
>Half-Dragon Kobold
There's kobold only feats that pretty much makes you into a half-dragon already desu. Also, I believe that kobolds actually count as dragons already, although I may be mixing things up with 3.5 desu.

>>54466240
I could fish out my old kobold Oracle/Dragon Disciple build that I never got to play in a game! She advocates a philosophy of being like a dragon and forcing your will upon the world- a might makes right sort of stance, though with a few nuances. After all, if a kobold with a fucked up leg can kick ass and change the world, do you have any excuse not to be able to do the same? But no sane DM would allow the Improved Caster Level or Noxious Bite feats, and I'm pretty sure the build actually sucks.

>>54466338
Because kobolds are fun.

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>>54466338
I'd be just as interested in another race's variant greater version coming into power and leading an army to conquer more territory, honestly. I'm much more interested in plant and insect races.

In an all-kobold game, I think that all kobolds should flat-out get Shoulder-to-Shoulder for free, because they're going to take it anyway, and all it replaces is Crafty.

>>54466385
>using desu multiple times
kys senpai desu

>>54466498
desu desu desu desu desu

>>54466496
Kobold Game should include kobold centric feats as free options/things to earn. Like the teamwork feats that include small races, racial feats, or Kobold Style

I just realized that Kobolds even have access to a unique Bard class, the Dragon Herald, which is pretty much all about what I was considering. Fucking sold.

>>54466498
desu desu desu desu desu desu uguu

>>54466583
They have TWO bard archetypes. One all about dragons and how cool they are, and one that is about how annoying kobolds are and how if they yap enough, they can give people debuffs. Dragon Yapper.

What's a good pace for an AP? One to two months per part per book of each AP?

>>54466468
You see the bug race in Starjammer? They are kinda cool.

>>54466640
Yeah, but Yapper doesn't fit the concept.

Right now I'm thinking Kobold Bard (Dragon Herald) with VMC Sorcerer for the Dragon Bloodline, and every single feat I get going into Kobold feats, at least until I can get Dragon Paragon (if ever).

I don't care if it sucks, this needs to be done.

Kobold Inquisitor into Dragon Disciple.

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>>54466468
I like the fact that most players would probably end up pretty much being some form of kobold paragons or one sort or another.

And thus a new meme is born. Again. And will die out as fast. Again. And then it will never happen because the players and GM are both a bunch of monkeys. Again.

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>>54466710
I haven't, but I'll give them a looksee. I'm not as big on sci-fi as fantasy.

So let's say I'm using a beautiful great axe right, 1d12. So I get Enlarge Person to make it 3d6, then lead blades to make it... What exactly?

1d12>3d6>???

>>54466838
4d6.

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>>54466838
2 steps for each increase.

>>54466847
>>54466864
Cheers lads

>>54466834
Starfinder has a Bug race as core. Have you checked them out?

>>54466818
>kobolds
>new meme
Yeah, no. Welcome to /tg/. Please leave when summer is over.

>>54466925
>le summerfag get out XDDDD

>>54466783
If the DM listens to >>54466097 then everyone will be a draconic paragon! But you'd need an interesting explanation for why there are so many half-dragon kobolds and why they're coming together as a party. My best idea would be some kind of weird dragon like a time dragon gathers together great kobold warriors from across all history or from multiple timelines for some very important undertaking. Slaying Dahak?

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>>54466918
I haven't! I'm waiting for full release so I don't get too hype.

>>54466097
>any campaign that restricts players to one race needs to have that race come with variable ability score modifiers
I see no reason for this, and it would in fact be a damn shame, since it'd shit on one of the main appeals of people dealing with the race they are.

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>>54466979
Kobold Paragon Drifters campaign when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnxv95EZGs

>>54467033
So you don't suffer from everyone taking the same fucking build.

>>54467033
>appeal of kobolds

BOY I SURE DO LOVE THESE STRENGTH AND CON PENALTIES

>>54466979
Honestly the whole "WE'RE ALL FUCKING DRAGONS" shtick would get old fast. Like for once I'd like to see a 'bold that wasn't all "WE WUZ DRAGONES AND SHIIEEET".

>>54467052
>>54467054
Oh, come on! Sure, you have a party of six sorcerers. But they're not all the same- two of them took the kobold bloodline instead of draconic!

>>54467012
They've got some decent family values and seem pretty interesting. I'm planning on making them more of the 'Humans' of the setting

>>54465273
bumpo?

>>54466097
>Also ideally the PCs are pic related
y tho

>>54467052
>So you don't suffer from everyone taking the same fucking build.
If you end up with a whole party with the same fucking build, you're playing with min-maxing faggots and I can't imagine the game being very satisfying anyway.

>>54467054
>BOY I SURE DO LOVE THESE STRENGTH AND CON PENALTIES
Yeah, deal with it. Otherwise you're just playing reskins of <insert cookie-cutter race #3 here>.

>>54467148
The question is vague. Pick up the must-haves for anybody in combat and doing adventure shit.

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>>54467087
DINOSAUR-OBSESSED KOBOLDS REBELLING AGAINST THE DRACONIC ARISTOCRACY IN CUSTOM SETTING WHEN!?

>>54467096
>Oh, come on! Sure, you have a party of six sorcerers. But they're not all the same- two of them took the kobold bloodline instead of draconic!
If everyone ends up playing sorcerers for some reason, the GM should probably just let everyone take the draconic bloodline for free. Could honestly be pretty neat, playing a cabal of diverse kobold sorcerers, twisted into different forms by their bloodlines.

>>54467179
fuck off, goblins should have the same, if not worse, penalties, and neither gobs nor kobolds even be pc options as they are.

>>54467179
What's wrong with playing a Re-skin honestly? If the fluff is still the same who cares?

>>54467229
>What's wrong with playing a Re-skin honestly?
Because <race> is actually <race>, with all that entails. Taking an aasimar and call it a kobold just so you can powergame is retarded.

>>54467229
>why even have races can't we just pick whatever stats we want and call it whatever?
kys

>>54467227
>fuck off, goblins should have the same, if not worse, penalties, and neither gobs nor kobolds even be pc options as they are.
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say. Stop doing drugs.

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>>54467282
>Taking an aasimar and call it a kobold just so you can powergame is retarded.

Well duh, you wouldn't do that. You'd play an Aasimar born to kobolds, which is something explicitly called out. Just like how you can have nonhuman tieflings.

>>54467282
I mean Kobold's can be Aasimar. There are even rules for being a small sized Assimar.

But what's wrong with just making an alternate stat block for kobolds to better facilitate variety? Just call them castes or something.

>>54467313
Sorry, I zoned way the fuck out and was on autopilot, I think I filled in gaps with memories of the last time we had this retarded conversation and someone brought up goblins so I kept going from there.

Point still stands, they're both cancer and shouldn't even be player options the way they are now.

>>54467313
>>why even have races can't we just pick whatever stats we want and call it whatever?
I mean let's be realistic.

Is there a reason why this shouldn't be done? It means people could play whatever race they WANT to play instead of building around stats like the current system encourages since now that race is primarily a function of just fluff.

>>54467282
I would agree with you in a different context, but I'm looking at this from an angle of game design/balance and encouraging the game to be played the way you want. When you want players to do something, you should encourage them to do so, or at least not make doing so something that punishes them. Making everybody use the same set of racial mods encourages everybody to avoid classes that those mods are poor for. "Why is nobody playing a martial with this -4 STR, -2 CON race? I didn't want a party of just casters!" might be a bit of a hyperbole, but it's also what you should expect if you force everybody to run with those stats.

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>>54466468
>I'd be just as interested in another race's variant greater version coming into power and leading an army to conquer more territory, honestly.

Azlanti campaign WHEN?

>>54466686
That sounds reasonable, or you could do what we do around here and dedicate an entire year to a single book.

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>>54467393
Dude, if a campaign offered that sort of point system for races, I'd play a Str/Wis Elf so fucking fast.

A Kobold Slayer could be really cool, grabbing Merciless Precision, Kobold Ambusher, Kobold Sniper, and Gang Up.

It's honestly a pretty horrifying idea, but it would require someone to actually tank and.. uh.. ideas for building a buff-ass kobold or two? Well, buff as far as kobolds go, anyway.

>>54466686
Depends on the group and how you're playing. That sounds about right for a weekly group playing in-person or over voice with roll20. For a weekly text game, things would probably take about twice as long depending on how much the group dawdles or adds.

>>54467405
>Making everybody use the same set of racial mods encourages everybody to avoid classes that those mods are poor for.
Yes. That is called "dealing with it". You're not being "punished". If you want to play completely free-form where races doesn't matter and everyone is essentially created equally, you should probably play something else.

You want to be a kobold fighter clad in heavy armor? Fine, but you're still a kobold, and there's a reason they are cowardly assholes and you never see them running around in full plate. It's cool if you do that, and you'll fill a niche that nobody else may be dealing with, but you'll have to play on your strengths and try to mitigate your weaknesses. It's part of what makes themed games like this awesome.

>>54467393
>Is there a reason why this shouldn't be done?
Is there a reason to have racial stats at all, at that point?

>current system encourages building around stats
>but race is primarily a function of just fluff
Nigger, you must be on fucking drugs, you can't have it both ways. The stats are fluff-based. Yes, it encourages building around your stats, because it makes sense for those races to actually build to archetype. Unless you're a massive optimization faggot, this is a non-issue, and makes perfect sense. Most kobolds with class levels aren't going to be fighters or berserkers, they're going to be rangers and rogues and shit like that. It's part of why kobolds are what they are. The same goes for tons of other races.

>>54467661
>Nigger, you must be on fucking drugs, you can't have it both ways.
You're really illiterate for someone running around calling people nigger.

>>54467578
If a GM wants to help a player deal with reality just to realize a concept, he can always hand out compensatory treats or bonuses, based on the logic that this particular kobold just happens to be an insanely adept fighter, or just happens to try to extra-extra hard. It's not something I'd advise, but it's a lot more reasonable than "lol races doesn't matter I guess lol? +4 str kobolds ftw".

>>54467578
DESU if you're going to play this kind of "anyone can be any modifiers" there should be some kind of limiter like, for instance, size based limiters still being in place (+2 Dex and -2 Str), and perhaps maybe something like "you can play any +2 +2 -2 stat modifiers you want so long as one of the modifiers is the same as what the race normally has".

What do you guys think?

>>54467683
>You're illiterate
Says the one that can't string a sentence together and remain consistent for more than 4-or-so words. You seem to have lost your trail of thought during the course of a single written sentence. You should probably put that doobie down, like, brah. Dude.

>>54467716
>"you can play any +2 +2 -2 stat modifiers you want so long as one of the modifiers is the same as what the race normally has".
This seems fair.

>>54467716
Then you could just as well just keep racial bonuses and penalties and just allow anyone to take an arbitrary number of +/- points.

>>54467731
You honestly cannot read if you think that sentence isn't consistent.

Actually you can read, you just have the comprehension ability of a middle schooler.

>>54467716
y tho?

just seems like a workaround to get an excuse to min/max instead of playing to one of the points of the game - everyone being the same race

anyone that sees an all-same-race game and that immediately thinks to themselves "I cannot possibly play this without playing the exact same thing as evryone else" should probably just not play in that game and leave it to people that actually like the concept and then that same person can kill itself

>>54467768
>dude like I just like insults wait what I can't even lol woah
>middle schooler something
>I was going somewhere with this I swear
Kill yourself, stoner.

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>>54467768
>Says one thing
>Immediately says another counteracting it
>In a written format
You realize that when you write things, you can actually change them before you hit "Post", right?

Power went out two hours before my Saturday game and I am the GM

What do

>>54464046
I was asleep, but let's have a go eh

As I've said before, I've been working on Soulforger a lot which has left me with a lot less time to make setting stuff. Now that the playtest is out, that's changed, and I'm putting the material out there.

Factions so far have been kept to PMs, but I'm planning on putting them out there after I finish Elvargian's Letters. Either way, though faction rewards won't come into play until later and will likely be negotiable in nature to some extent.

>>54467794
Look man I've played with a group of friends IRL for about a year and a half now and among the many games we've played in that time I can count the number of times we've played, let's say, an Elf with not even a full hand at least in part because of that Con penalty. We're not even THAT bad of minmaxers but none of us want to bite that bullet, and usually go for a Half-elf instead.

>>54467478
>Gang Up
At first I was going to point out that that probably doesn't work the way you think it does, but I just realized that it should work perfectly with ranged attacks. If the kobold pumps Stealth (and he should) he should be able to take pot-shots with sneak attacks p. much all day.

If the game is using Feat Tax Rules, a 1-level dip into Shadowdancer might be worth it for HiPS, and would make a really cool black-scaled kobold. The fact that he wouldn't be one of the buff half-dragon dragon disciple kinda things, nor a preachy paragon, but just a "normal" kobold that still manages to be an exemplar of his type would actually be pretty cool. Obviously, he'd take the Sniper archetype (and possibly Executioner, if evil or if the DM allows). Only use acid arrows, to honour your black father.

>>54467932
Seems like a pretty moot point in a game where everyone is predetermined to be kobolds.

>>54467885
Suffer. Reschedule. Fap and take a nap. Drink.

>>54467932
>a single group of friends
>a year and a half
Jesus christ man, how often do you end up making new characters for a single fucking group? Do you make new characters each session or something?

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>>54467941
>a 1-level dip into Shadowdancer might be worth it for HiPS
Love me a Kobold with hips

>>54468010
It's actually been more like 2 years but yeah, suffice it to say we have a bad habit of getting through the first few sessions of a campaign before starting up another one. Right now I have a stack of characters that we could technically play with right now from... 4 different campaigns, 1 character from one of those campaigns that I let die instead of being resurrected, and up to 3 characters from campaigns that are finished and won't be brought back.

In addition there's two other campaigns in that group that I'm not a part of and another two potentially in the works, though the details for those haven't been finalized yet so I haven't built characters for them yet.

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>>54462571
Hello pfg. I am makeing an npc for one of my games and i needed some advice.

I want to make a robotic bard (deltron) but am having difficulty finding an appropriate race that has a cha modifier that wont be negative. What do?

Question, imagine you have +6/+1 BaB, can you make the lowest attack first in a full attack? or it has to be in that order?

>>54468244
Make one up.

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>>54468274

>>54468294
Well duh hehe...
I was hoping you guys knew one that was already made up so I could be lazy. But such is life. Guess I will get to work.

>>54468012
>Kobolds with hips > Kobolds without hips

>>54468274
Must be that order.

What would be a good class for a goblin, ronin-like character to actually deal decent damage with? 1pp only. It'd be super high in Dex and low in Str plus with lower base damage weapons (using the racial feat Roll With It so the separate monkey goblin race is out). Normally I'd turn to Unchained Rogue to deal damage with such a character, but I'd want him to be a noble, independent little guy and not someone who has to flank and surprise-backstab to win fights. ie can actually win duels or fight alone and outnumbered.

>>54468368
Literally gunslinger you faggotlord

>>54468368
Unchained Rogue for dex to damage, Mutation Warrior for mutagen, Urban Bloodrager or Barbarian for dex rage. Stack it to hell.

>>54468368
Bolt Ace Gunslinger.

>>54468368
Cavalier and Samurai are good. Challenge packs a punch.

>>54468368
Magus is really good at dealing strong single damage and it's an excuse to use the Dervish Dance feat. Does it matter if it's not a noncaster?

>>54468530
Nah, magical swordsmanship is fine. The only thing that changes is the character's position on the scale between A Little Anime and Very Anime.

>>54468472
Don't tease the poor bastard.

>>54468671
Well it does.

If you're not gonna get damage from your stats, you wanna get as much as you can from other sources.

Fighter with Trained Grace is also good.

>>54468368
aaaaAAAAAAAAAA

EVERY TIME
EVERY GOLLY GOSH TIME
EVERY TIME SOMEONE MAKES A GOBLIN, IT'S SOME NOBLE MOUNTED WARRIOR OR BADASS OR SOME OTHER BULLSHIT THAT MAKES THEM HOLIER THAN THOU.

I HATE IT.

tldr: Dm asked for help against high AC high damage monk player.

My DM's a bit snowed under with moving house and work and what not and asked me for some help dealing with our min maxed monk. He's running a combination of monk and rogue with a dazzling display/ shattered defences build to get sneak attack off more often.

He's on equal terms with the barbarian when he full attacks as he's generally guaranteed sneak attack damage and his AC is around 32 which is around 10 higher than the rest of the party (My alchemist can match him for ac but he's built as the party tank).

The DM just wanted something to slow him down a bit but doesn't want to nerf him completely or bring the party into danger with something that can just challenge him.

>>54468727
I have this idea for a goblin gunslinger. He suffers from PTSD due to the kobold wars and refers to kobolds as "filthy scalies".

>>54468758
>against high AC high damage monk player.
Make a Ranger, favored enemy Illusions

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>>54468727
>"Wow, whenever someone tries to play an above-average version of this race seen as vermin, they always try to make them above average!"
This is your logic.

>>54468758
Maybe you should help the Barb instead, if he's behind a monk he must be mentally handicapped

>>54468758
Monk's build? I find extremly hard to believe he's able to surpass even a mediocre Barbarian.

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>>54468778
>Favored enemy: Illusions

>>54468758
Things immune to being shaken perhaps? Like undead? No shaken means no shatter defenses means no/less sneak.

>>54468758
Tell your DM to look into giving enemies Feint-related feats, it'll be difficult to get past the Sense Motive DC since Monks are so Wis-based but just a bit of investment into Bluff will help immensely.

>>54468758
Don't target his AC. Target his saves, cause conditions, target CMD, which is probably also high, but possibly not as high. There are also creatures that are immune to sneak attack or fear effects he can mix in. Get him flatfooted.

>>54468813
This

>>54468770
Don't you mean the Goblinblood Wars?

>>54468881
That can work too depending on the campaign.

>>54468727
Because normal goblins are actually fucking awful, anon. Why would you want to play a normal goblin, and how would any goblin who isn't *extra* civilized or heroic ever be allowed in other races' company in the first place, let alone pursue adventure/heroism? When you're playing a rat with cats and they decide to allow you amongst them, you better not fucking act like a rat.

>>54468727
Being a normal goblin is shit, those fucks don't even allow eachother to READ normally because they're so shit.

I really want to try a Living Legend but absolutely despise the fluff. Is there anyway I can try framing it as a more "normal" Psionic class, especially when it comes to stuff like getting around Taboo's which are baked into the archetype and seem really annoying.

Other info we are level 10 just about to hit 11 with significantly below average wealth.

>>54468778
Yeah I know this sounds like some sort of magical christmass land.

>>54468793
The Barbarian's damage output is fine and much more reliable than the monk's.

>>54468813
I think his build involves full unchained monk with a 2 level dip in fighter and rogue variant multiclassing trading feats for sneak attack, I think he also go sneak attack from somewhere else as well. Amulet of might fists with the dex to attack enchant. I'll see if I can get a copy off the DM.

>>54468818
Yeah, immune / resistance to fear was on my list. He had a pretty bad time in a crypt last session.

>>54468838
Will do. My DM's great but he can get a bit out maneuvered tactically in combat.

>>54468840
Yep, his will and ref are pretty high so forts the goto there. CMD is a good option as I'd already listed mooks using pack tactics and aid another to bring him down.

He also got blinded last session with a word of power while going against a cleric which forced him to dimension door out of the fight.

Thanks for all the help so far guys.

>You will never grow cotton in the verdant plains of Molthune
>You will never walk among your apple groves and pick the choiciest ones for the children underfoot
>You will never breed the finest horses for the Molthunian military

>>54469089
Talk to your GM about options.

Reminder that the only reason goblins act the way they do is because every once in a while it works out. If there isn't a goblin on the evil council of doom, it just doesn't have enough perspective to take over the world. You need someone who's climbed up from the shit end of the odds, who understands how big a pile of shit the world can be. Those arrogant dragons don't know any life except being the strongest. They'd stumble over a kobold if there wasn't a goblin keeping them on their toes.

>>54469134
Step up and run that in Starfinder

>>54469131
If you don't tell us more we can't give you realiable help. I believe it might be something that doesn't work as the monk player or GM thinks it works, that or the barb is like the one in one of my groups who at 7th level was dealing 1d8+4 while raging, so the polar opposite of optimization

>>54469134
>Growing cotton, picking apples, and breeding horses is a remotely interesting thing to have a game about

>>54469269
Worked for Tales of an Industrious Rogue, aka the Saga of Saltspit.

>>54469269
I mean people have fun with Harvest Moon, but I understand where you're coming from. This sorta shit ain't fun at an actual table.

Any good oneshot for 4/5 players, possibly to be done in max six hours?

Can't really be arsed to create something of my own right now

>>54469269
The PCs are all bug sized.

They need those items to cast a shrinking spell on all Humans

>>54469318
The fun, I think, wouldn't be from doing those things in-game, but rather dealing with the windfalls and obstacles that such an occupation brings. Less apple-picking, more associating with neighboring estates. Less watching cotton grow, more selling the cotton and making fat cash.

>>54469131
>VMC rogue gives you 2d6 at 10th level
>Unchained monk can get Monk of the mantis archetype and exchange all his bonus feats for 1d6 sneak attack, up to 3d6 at 10th level
>5d6 at 10th level like a Rogue
Now number of attacks
>Unchained monk gets 2 full BaB attacks at 1st level
>At 10th level his attacks should be +10/+10/+5
Is that all? doesn't seem much to be honest, 5d6 is 17.5 on average. You can get more as a Str monk with Dragon Ferocity and other stuff. Monk also loses a turn to use dazzling display, and this assuming he succeedes, his Cha must be shit because he needs Dex, Con and Wis.

Also, 32 AC with below WPL seems something really hard to achieve specially as a Monk.

My honest opinion? the problem isn't the monk, is the other damage dealers.

>>54469410
...wait wait wait, now that I thin of, where did he got the feats?
He lost all his monk feats, he lost 3 feats from his character progression. He has how many? 2 at 10th level? 3 if human?
Weapon focus, Dazzling display, Shatter defenses. Done, he has no more feats. And he needs to surpass the intimidate check by 5 (with awful Cha) so the shaken condition lasts more than a turn (to be able to hit with Sneak Attack hsi next turn)

A monk with Power Attack and Dragon Ferocity is going to deal more damage more realiabily

>Character ends up getting mutated from human to a werebat skinwalker after getting all of her blood sucked out by a demon vampire bat in the darklands
>Condition hasn't been cured at all
>Contracts actual lycanthropy at the end of last session after failing a CON roll against a werewolf bite
What should I even expect out of this?

>>54469601
A Varghulf

Is there anyway of increasing the range increment of the Aegis's ranged attack?

Because 30 feet is fucking pathetic.

>>54468397
why anon
>>54468398
URogue for Dex to Damage is tasty, so is the Barbarian level, but I'm uncertain on Mutation Warrior. I know it's the best Fighter archetype but does that make the 3 levels it takes just to get the standard-action buff worth it for other classes? What class is the character actually spending its time in after these dips?
>>54468419
You only read Dex and nothing else
>>54468472
It's okay I guess. I wasn't picturing a mounted character but it would certainly deal some damage. Both classes seem more suitable than, say, Fighter levels, but get nothing really interesting either.
>>54468727
I'm not making a play for Most Original Concept of the Year anon, I just wanted to play something a little serious and a little goofy that can use at least a little of its benefits to win fights.

Anyway thanks all, this is a bunch of options to look at. And yeah >>54468530 I am considering fighty-casters in the mix like Magus.

The Time Dragon guy actually replied. Cool.

>>54470048
Both Cavalier and Samurai have archetypes which can trade out their mount.

>>54470048
If you look at Cav and Samurai, remember to look into the Orders. There's some really neat stuff in there. Ronin/Knight Errant is neat.

>>54470048
Mutagen lasts 30 min per level at it's lowest, you should be using it before combat you know they're going to happen

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Where the Human women at?

>>54470265

Married to foxes, anon.

>>54470048
Consider going Samurai and taking Order of the Flame or the Ronin order, especially since you have Roll With It making you relatively safe in melee - Ronin order makes you safer, Order of the Flame exposes your balls and can take advantage of pre-existing safety.

If you have those Rogue levels especially, Order of the Flame level 2 can probably shit on an encounter really fast - you win Initiative, you get to move up to the enemy for free, then you shred them with TWF Sneak Attacks because they're flat-footed before they act. With Dex so high you can take Improved Initiative and a trait and at some point you start winning Initiative on even trash rolls.

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I'm looking for the Pathfinder Villains Codex. Can anyone hook me up with a pdf?

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>>54470265

>>54470369
check the fucking pastebin you fucking mongoloid

What is it with this thread and people that won't put in the BAREST fucking effort to find the shit they want, holy fuck.

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>>54470265
Busy being skinwalkers instead.

>>54470403

>That cute barmaid turns to a vicious beast when threatened

A little frightening to consider.

>>54470403
I'll have to show this image to my boyfriend. This is exactly the sort of character he'd play.

>>54470734
Will he suck your dick in thanks afterwards?

>>54470746
If only he could.

>>54470764
poor headless dave.

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When was the last time you solved a conflict with dickplomacy?

>>54470826
>dude can you go fuck the harpjy somewhere else, your juices are splattering my armor

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Guys, I need to regain some sanity after something horrible, awful, and degenerate I just saw.

Tell me about any cool stuff you've done as a wizard or other kind of caster. Stuff that just screams MAGIC NIGGUH! in the best way possible.

>>54471057
I will be able to stop time at-will, forever.

>>54471057
At one point I blinded the final boss with a level 1 spell.

The party then proceeded to tear him apart, because he didn't have line-of-effect to anybody he could cast his spells on, thanks to being blind.

>>54471100
How many more people will you have to suck the life from to do it?

>>54471057
>Guys, I need to regain some sanity after something horrible, awful, and degenerate I just saw.
You don't say this and not elaborate

>>54471057
Tell me the degenerate stuff!

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>>54471139
>>54471161
https://youtu.be/mFZctIt4w3M
Warning, it has lamia unbirth vore
As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought of PLD, hence why I came here
after this, I am now currently following the links in the suggested videos to see how deep this nightmarish rabbit hole goes. I only hope that though I now gave into the abyss, that I will not lose myself when the abysses gazes back

>>54471112
That's cool. Any details, like which spell it was and how you pulled that off?

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>>54471125
None, sucking is for peasantry and whores.

I am a sorceress! Fear me! And my ability to stop time and molest you while you can't do a single thing about it!

>>54471202
Oh yeah, I've seen that thing before.

Kinda meh, if I'm honest.

>>54470403
Golden eyes best eyes.

>>54471206
>r63 Stopman
I can dig it

>>54471233
I shudder what to think would impress you if you find this meh

>>54471206
go to bed grim

>>54471202
>That's cool. Any details, like which spell it was and how you pulled that off?
It was literally just the Mudball spell. Druids have a decent to-hit at level 17 and it was a touch attack, it was actually pretty easy. SR: No and touch attack goes a long way, particularly when it's a guaranteed status effect if you hit.

>>54471247
I'm mostly unfazed at this point.

>>54471202
Just going off of the thumbnail I have to wonder how that's not getting nabbed by the censors. Is the low-bit style enough to bypass it?

>>54471253
No! Only if you show the proper respect to a superior fluffy tail

>>54471247
>instead of "toki wo tomare"
>you hear "Ufufufu~!"
>then you die

>>54471125
TWENTY MINUTES.

>>54471286
>4chan posters in a single post

>>54471295
>Is the low-bit style enough to bypass it?

Considering the video exists? Yeah.

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>>54471298
RIVEN HOURGLASS MUTHAFUCKA

>>54471318
>use god of the hourglass
>cast time stop with that one standard action

Has Blood of the Sea dropped yet? I'm curious about the new races/options for Gillmen.

>>54471318
>time-stuff

This is stellar writing.

>>54471318
>effect that you are within 50 feet of
>I still have better duration on my time stop
>Just stay out of that 50 foot radius, summon dozens of monsters, mob the initiator with said monsters

DIO with tits has a god wizard build

>>54471202
Let me know if you need pointers when you cave and run a game for the abyss.

>>54471308
I've always been a bit puzzled by those kinds of games. It's a bit difficult to get mad when you lose considering that when you do your character engages in a sex scene, and when you win there's no sex scenes at all! Plus they're usually actually pretty hard to get through without taking any damage considering HP recovery is hard to find.

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Finished another the Pathfinder - Forgotten Realms game today.

>Have to speak over a WH40K tournament going on in the same room.
>Only one of the new players arrives
>He hasn't filled out a character sheet by hand in years, and wants to play a Halfling Rogue/Bard
>Hidden Blade/Wizard wants to become a Telepath/Illusionist until I tell him the Cerebremancer PrC isn't allowed with Gestalt
>He changes to Kensai Magus/Exploiter Wizard
>Character creation takes over an hour
>Ranger/Druid of Lurue stays the same

>PCs take job to hunt down deserters from not!Sparta in the rainy farmland to recover missing sheep
>New player is determined to hire the deserters as his underlings
>Kill some Dire Rats without becoming infected
>Bard Fascinates a group of three deserters, then casts Lullaby
>No one knows Sleep
>Fascination ended, roll initiative
>Archer scores a critical hit on the Halfling Bard, for 16 damage
>PCs win, skip diplomacy during the next encounter to finish killing the deserters, and find 1/2 of a sheep
>PCs hike back to the village center the next morning to report on the job
>A potential love interest for the Druid waves at him
>She doesn't notice the Ankheg stealing a sheep while her back is turned
>PCs fire magic and arrows in her general direction without warning her
>Druid kills the Ankheg to harvest its chitin for armor

If the players keep their current characters, it leaves them without a dedicated front line fighter and a good healer. I allowed PoW and Psionics. The Halfling Bard/Rogue spread out his skills. The Half-elf Ranger/Druid uses Goodberry to heal. The Elven Kensai/Wizard went for the Shocking Grasp build. The next game is in two weeks.

>>54471505
Oh, even if I become an unashamed pervert, that will never happen. I make it a strict policy to keep my sexual fetishes and my gaming life completely seperate. I mean, why would I make a game to fap to when porn already exists? It just seems silly and to me its like trying to force a square peg in a triangle hole. Sorry, but unlike you most perverts actually know how to stay at least somewhat professional when not in the midst of fap-time

>>54471544
I don't know what's up with people and not warning NPCs when they pull weapons or cast. That shit would be terrifying.

aaaaaaaa I want a campaign modeled after the Second Punic War and the fall of the late Roman Republic!

>>54471626
>I want a campaign modeled after the Second Punic War and the fall of the late Roman Republic!
The...Second Punic War was one of the heights of the Roman Republic...

>>54471626
What would the PCs even do in the second Punic War? That was almost 100% about Hannibal Barca and logistics.

You'd have to pry open the blood pact aspect. Maybe make him immortal with magic powers, and the PCs have to undo the magic giving him his powers, only to realize his army has been winning because of his directions, not his magic

But here's the important question, will it be gestalt so I can go Open Hand Monk/Self Pact Avowed and fight with my stilettos?

>>54471649
And I want to experience the fall from grace. The decent that crumbles the foundations of democracy.

>>54471709
Rome was never a true democracy, even the Republican period was more about big-ass senator houses.

>the fall from grace
You're literally 100+ years too early then, unless you're saying the PCs are Carthaginians and going to fuck Rome up or something.

>>54471734
Here's the thing about fictional stories based on history: You don't have to follow it 100%. You could make this war and the fall a lot closer if you really wanted. Don't be so stuck in the order of things.

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>>54471589
The potential love interest, an Earth Genasi Adept of Chauntea, now has an attitude of indifferent.

The Ranger/Druid was awarded land as part of his payment, so her attitude might improve.

I could still work out, even though he's a Druid that's going to turn his farmland into a forest.

It will be a while before I can run the Harvest Moon campaign.

>>54471873
>Harvest Moon campaign.
Will there be gentle village maidens to woo and wed?

What 1pp non-casters could I play that can keep up with barbarians and slayers?

>>54471570
You should not criticize someone unless you understand why they do the things they do.

You will become a better person if you wrap your head around this.

>>54471912

Keep up in terms of damage? A two handed fighter, warpriest, dragon style monk I think would all be close. Basically any archer

>>54471943
Is 2h that great? It seems like it falls behind twf and archery just for making fewer attacks

>>54471873
I wish them and you fortune.

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>>54471906
Not if the PCs act like PCs and keep scaring them off.

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>>54471968
>is 2h that great
>the objectively best combat style
>"fall behind"

Huh?

>>54471991
Show me some math

>>54471057
We had to deal with an extremely paranoid lord of a city that was attacking the city our party stayed in. He was terrible to his citizens, taxing them until the had almost nothing left. He hired mercenaries, which he unpaid and told to take the rest of their pay by bullying townsfolk. Any townsfolk that rebelled were eaten by hill giants he kept in town to patrol at night.

Cue my Magus, who cast Elemental Body to become an Earth Elemental, Invisiblity, and Arcane Sight. Turns out, it's hard to find and invisible earth elemental that glides through the floors and can see magic traps. I scoped out the entire castle, and found the lord's bed chambers. The next night, I teleported into his bedroom and CDG the lord.

His family concealed the man's death and kept running things as the status quo, so two days later I turned into an invisible earth elemental again and floated to the treasury, where I loaded all of the valuables into my portable hole and left. When the rulers realized they would not be able to pay their guards anymore, they fled. Our party claimed that the nobles had taken all the town's money with them, while having the gold melted down and reforged it as ingots to give the town as a "generous donation" to further ensure the city as a loyal ally to our party.

Felt awesome.

>>54471991
>2h
>objectively best
No, Archery is objectively best combat style.

>>54471570
I'd like to stick my square peg in your triangular hole~

>>54472033
Yea, sorry, best melee style

>>54471968

I think the extra damage 2H gets far outweighs other styles. Unless we're talking about high levels with tons of static mods it also comes only very early and stays strong basically forever.

Math question /pgg/les

What are the tip over conditions for when a +1 flaming weapon is better than a +2 weapon? I know intuitively that you'd take flaming if you're only hitting for 1 damage currently, or if you already hit 90% of your attacks, but if you're hitting for 70, you'd never take flaming.

Does anyone have this math on hand?

>>54471202
Fuck you for putting a hyperlink in spoilers.

>>54471906
It's a Monster Village bordering two Kingdoms locked in a Cold War. You'll have your pick of Lizardfolk, Gnolls, and a few destitute Kobolds you'll have to work with if you want to survive Winter and the inevitable war

>>54471991
What about Multiweapon fighting with more than 2 weapons though?

>>54472074
That's why you highlight the spoiler text first, you dumbass.

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>>54471912
Unchained Rogue can outdamage both and maintain relevance outside of combat too. It doesn't steal the show because it's best with friend support, so it makes you a team player. Unchained Monk can also do high damage.

Mutation Warrior Fighter is competitive with those classes as well but covers largely the same ground, so if you're concerned with overlap it's an overlapper. Fighter is also the absolute worst class in the game at skills so fighting is all you do unless you want to drop an Advanced Weapon Training on a specific one. Look at this trash.

>>54472095
Can't do that while browsing from my phone.

>>54472093
Two many resources and takes too long to pull ahead.

It's also what ends up getting shit banned at the table. No one is gonna let you be a Kasatha in most games and doing that as a Aegis takes like 10 levels.

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>>54471906
>>54471873
>Harvest Moon
Which one though? There are tons of HM games already, and picking one to base things off of would be hard.

Though, if I had to pick one, I'd probably go with Breadfruit if only for the nostalgia of it being my first Harvest Moon

>>54472144
Why be a Kasatha? There's a Monster feat you can take that lets you use a Bite attack as another hand for the purpose of holding a weapon, just take that and be Roranoa Zoro with 3 swords.

>>54472187
name of it?

>>54472267
I think it's called Strong Jaw, but you won't find it on pfsrd because they haven't put the book that's in on there.

>>54472167
I feel like you're going to wind up like that Fantasy one with the dragon Waugh if you use Pathfinder

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>>54472084
Not exactly.

It's 1368 DR, and I'm going though the Roll of Years. They will encounter:

The Red Wizard mercantile expansion
The Twelfth Seros War
Velsharoon's apotheosis
The return of the Shadovar
The Dracorage

I'm skipping the Bhaalspawn crisis, since I've never played Baldur's Gate, and the Harper schism, since I don't like intrigue.

There's a chance for a Red Wizard, Sea Elf, Necromancer, Shade, half-dragon, or a local farmer waifu for the PCs.

>>54472284
pretty sure that's not it. Strong Jaw just ups the damage dice of a natural attac.

Is there any wizard that integrates well with metal, rust, gunpowder, and guns without being an alchemist or a gunslinger?

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Since we're talking about games we want to see run, I'd love to see a traditional Final Fantasy/classic JRPG style campaign. Noblebright heroes, Demon lords and dark dragons, magical mcguffins to save the day.

What kinds of campaigns do you want to see?

>>54472284
what book is it?

>>54472481
You'd get sick of the random encounters by level 4 though

>>54472481
One that I can run all the way to completion with occasionally challenging the party

>>54472481
Something where I don't end up feeling like a useless piece of shit even in fantasy land.

Is there any way to indefinatly grant my non-flying familiar flying?

>>54472572
What's your group like? Give us details and we can help you out

>>54472589
It's not really a group thing.
It's more a matter of insecurity and depression informing my characters. So I end up making the same mistakes through them that make me miserable IRL.

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>>54470734
>>54470720
Worgen are pretty fun. They had pretty okay music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0uK5-ILvEw

Their voices were pretty cool too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnkAqjEbpJ0 (jump to 3:20 for female)

Gilnean's are generally pretty fun, and when needs be they can beast out and rip limbs off.

>>54472662

Go get help from someone in a therapeutic setting, not whining to fat disgusting nerds on 4chan

>>54472481
I was talking about it a few threads back, and was gonna post it recently if my phone didn't keep eating my messages. Basically, some weird, esoteric combination of the following properties and movies and games:

>Gumball Rally's plot and general premise of going West
>Bunraku's mishmash of different styles, East vs West vs North vs South
>The Dark Tower's cosmology with the serial numbers filed off
>Bloodborne's monsters and waifus

What would that look like? A cross-continental race across an unexplored continent, where you, small-time, like-minded mercenaries and drifters with strong convictions and particular skills (represented by various different subsystems being in play, Psionics, Path of War, Akashic, Vancian magic, etc.) volunteer to go out from behind the wall of your Zone, into the uncivilized, unknown Outer Territory. You're doing this because a mysterious man only known as Makarov has put out a ludicrously-high bounty on a man who slighted him.

You grouped up, now you have to make your way out of the Zone, beyond the Wall, and into the mysterious place where no one has ever dared to go- until now. With the bounty on this man (Name: Unknown, Title: Pierced Heart) so high, hundreds, if not thousands of mercenaries from all over the Safe Zone have made their way west, trying to get past the Wall and into the Wildlands. Wildlands filled with vicious, terrible monsters and strange, reality-defying phenomena.

The Pierced Heart traveled Westward, and you, the Men On Makarov's Dime, followed.

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>>54471244
skinwalkers are pretty neat

>>54472481
What I'd like to run:

https://pastebin.com/YQnvEm2E

One of those 4. Alternative, I've got ideas for another but haven't quite set it straight yet.

>>54472511
>>54472373
I was legitimately going crazy trying to look back and see where I found it last time, but it's in the second to last page of the Monster Classes book, it's called Mouth Manipulator. It's meant to be used for creating Sif builds for you Dark Souls boys out there, but the only requirement is that you have a bite attack which you can get as a trait even as a human.

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>>54471873
Earth genasi was a different direction than I suggested; but it still werks just great!

she's soft fertile earth, deeply plowed, she just needs the right guy to come along and plant some seeds in her. the earthmother wills it!

>>54473134
Pirates!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMhfbLRoGEw

Or urban crime!

>>54473181
Is that from DSP? If so which one. I'd like a publisher so I can find it

>>54473203
It is from Dreamscarred, the actual name of the book is Monster Classes, and it has an Ent on the front page.

>>54473198

Well, that was a thing, and that's all I'm really prepared to say about it.

>>54473203
Monster Classes: Woodlands

>>54473316
H8R detected

>>54473339

Jesus, there's even a TF2 version.

>>54471544
Wait. Are you playing 5e on Golarion, or the other way around?

>>54473360
I like the one done by Hitler.

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>>54473385
He is playing PF in Forgotten Realms with a historic roman feel. And not online either.

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How to I build this as an encounter? It's going against high level NPCs so anything goes, but all I can come up with is Mithril Current/Veiled Moon bullshit and maybe double/triple actions

If my enemy is a cuckold and I bang his wife, then does that mean that they won?

If so, then I may have found the 'nemesis' for my NTRguy vigilante.

>>54473735
DoA

>>54473763
Yeah, I fucked it up. Gonna redo it if somebody doesn't get to it before I do. My bad.

>>54473781
And I continue to fuck up.

>>54473198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atumHTucDLU

On a serious note, I've been making a playlist for music for each of those so as to help set the feel during sessions. The pirates campaign for example, is filled with Pirates of the Carribean/Horatio Hornblower/Black Sails/ various sea shanties etc.

>>54473134
Hell if you don't run the body horror/lamashtan campaign I sure as hell will. I was kicking around an idea similar although I didn't have as much of a focus on crafting.

>>54473834
>>54473834
>>54473834
New Thread! I think I even did it right this time!

>>54473800
Might want to make sure the songs don't mention places, as they'll likely be different. If the group doesn't care, though, then whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHk2JwYZ6y8

>>54473840
No, I fucked up again. Whatever.

>>54473274

Shame their shop seems to be down and it's not in the megalinks
:/

>>54473906
Do you have/are you in the Discord chats? I can send my copy of the pdf to you through that.

Is a level in gunslinger or spellslinger worth it? I'm thinking particularly for a cleric, but I wonder if wizards/sorceress/other classes work well with it.

>>54473981

To what end? Guns take a pretty large investment to make work

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>>54473981
one level in gunslinger gets you the vast majority f what you need to make guns work as a martial. Spellslinger is kind of ass, though. If you want a shooty spell user, try an Eldritch Archer Magus.

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>>54473981
You will either be taking 5 levels in Gunslinger or 3 levels in the Trench Fighter archetype if you want guns to be anything more than a shitty slingshot.
Generally casters don't enjoy multiclassing at all, let alone 3/5 levels.

Do you want to be good, or do you just want guns?