/srg/ - Shadowrun General

>>54440341
Start shadowrunning, make some nuyen, get in over my head and die in a gutter on the 3rd job.

Does anyone have a cap or something of the Seven-7 anon's story?

>>54460884
I don't cap my own stories, so, sadly, no. You can probably find it on one of the 4chan archives.

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>>54460904
You just wanted to identify yourself. Cheeky bugger.

>>54460949
Yeah, I guess. But it is true - don't you think it's a little egotistical to screen cap your own stuff?

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>>54460998
Nah.

>>54461078
I did a little bit of googling and found it.
https://yuki.la/tg/46645800#p46647247

>>54460949
On the other hand, it's the only thing I'd like to identify myself as on this general, cause I'm also the dude that started the street-sam code of honor debate. It has become an inside joke between my group.

>>54459767
>Armour protects better against getting hit six times than getting hit with something six times the size
FTFY.

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Hrm. Refresh my memory, free spells for priority magicians. Is it a combination of rituals, spells and preparations or a separate pool for each one?

>>54461671
>Armour protects better against getting hit six times than getting hit with something six times the size
It sure does. The Panther hits you one time with -5 AP, while getting hit by lets say an AK74 6 times still has -1 AP. Their damage values are 10 and 11 respectively here, yet the AK74 damage has a much higher chance of getting reduced by armor than the Panther does.

The Panther damage is as stated still a bit underwhelming for what it is but clearly is so for balance issues. Even so, the fact that the only way to shoot at someone with an automatic weapon in 5e is to wiggle your spray so they get a harder time to dodge is not an improvement in the combat system in my opinion.

>>54461780
Combination.

>>54461858
>Even so, the fact that the only way to shoot at someone with an automatic weapon in 5e is to wiggle your spray so they get a harder time to dodge
Ok. Except that's wrong. Run & Gun. Read it.

>>54461780
Adding on to what >>54461895 said, it's a combination, but the starting limit is by category.

So if you for some reason went with Magic A and then took your magic down to 3 you're not wasting any spell picks.

You're still limited to six spells, six rituals, and six preparations, so that's about 40 karma worth to max out what you could start with. Hope you didn't take many positive qualities.

>>54461931
>Ok. Except that's wrong. Run & Gun. Read it.
Yes buying an additional book allows me to add +2 DV to the 6 shot burst with the fantastic action "Brain Blaster". Sorry for not noticing, but Run & Gun is an absolute mess.

Honestly, could they not decide between wanting to be more lethal or less lethal when they transitioned into 5e? And why was this cut from the corebook, which should be all you need to play the game?

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>>54462144

>>54462353
You are given 1 million nuYen, to spend on weapons, ammunition and accessories
What do you get
Assume that this is a one time thing and you are not expected to fight a specific enemy

>>54463457
Avail?

>>54463457

Hey, why does he get 1M￥ and I don't?

>>54463457
1 million nuyen worth of Ares energy weapon prototypes, which I will then resell to the mafia for a significant profit. After that, it's a sex change, an ethnicity change, a new cosmetic metatype, a new legal identity, and a new High lifestyle paid for in full. I'd be perfectly happy to live out the rest of my life in luxury on Sicily.

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>>54463457

>>54463457
Am I awakened? Can I buy foci?

>>54463914
>1 million Nuyen
>Handling -1

Anyone know any movies featuring good interrogation scenes?

>>54464187
Inglourious Basterds

On more serious note, I'd look into documentaries on (counter)intelligence agencies of various totalitarian regimes.

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>>54461780
I'm using 5.193.169, and I'm trying to customize a Direktionssekretar's cyberarm. According to the rules, I should be able to Customize it up to Agility 8 - you can as much as double its base rating. However, Chummer is only letting me customize it up to 7, my Elf Rigger's meat body's natural maximum.

Is that a known bug?

>>54464523
Is it maybe 2 availability per rating and as such is 14 at 7 but 16 at 8?

>>54464523
Flick me a copy of the file, I'll have a quick look. Should be working.

>>54464602
Here, I'll start a fresh file just to confirm - that way there will be less cruft for you to sort through too.

>>54464187
You mean good as in 'professional and believable' or good as in 'bloody as hell'?

Meet the Parents for the former, and Casino Royale for the latter.

>>54464602
https://mega.nz/#!ugVV2LwS!CGFt-OT6Uv32STq7IftFrH8dCG6J7MtZrzYYeBnvgfc

>>54464629
I mean a big company got their hands on someone who they think has information that another company will do anything and everything to make sure that someone takes to the grave.
And I'm having trouble planning the interrogation scene.

>>54464187
The Sunset Limited

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Thought I may as well share this with you guys.

I've been looking forever for some software to make floor plans easily without tripping over my complete lack of artistic or technological skill. Made this in 30 minutes using Google SketchUp, which is free and comes with LayOut.

>>54464187

Battle of Algiers?

>>54464671
Oh. Then there's no real need to plan anything. If it's a Mega, they have the resources to just use truth drugs and mind-control wagemages. If you want a bloody, methodical interrogation you should use the Yaks. If you just want people to lose body parts until they break, Vory.

There aren't many interrogation scenes like that outside of the SAW franchise though.

>>54464704
Die Angestellten an der Anmeldung in der Lobby und im Büro haben keine Einsicht auf die Leute im Wartezimmer, die eine gerade Linie durch den Flur hinten zum Personalbereich, inklusive Lager haben. Da Drogenabhängige vermutlich ab und an auch zu den Patienten gehören würde niemand solche unbeaufsichtigt in die Nähe des Lagers lassen. Ein Personalraum (abgesehen von der Umkleide) wäre auch sinnvoll, und die Toiletten vielleicht näher an die Patienten in der Erstaufnahme die nicht notwendigerweise durch das ganze Stockwerk laufen müssen (in ihrem Zustand wahrscheinlich nicht hilfreich) um zu Pinkeln. Vorrausgesetzt die kriegen nicht alle einfach Katheter.

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>>54464792
Danke dafür. Ich bastel es nochmal um.

Das Bereitschaftszimmer ist als Personalraum gedacht, links eine kleine Einbauküche, rechts Tische.

Ganz rechts sind Behandlungszimmer für die Notaufnahme. Wenn jemand länger bleibt kommt er in den zweiten Stock oder wird in ein volles Krankenhaus verlegt. Dafür muss man aber auch die Kohle haben.

>>54464661
Ohhh. I see the problem. I knew that'd come back to haunt me. Short version is that it doesn't know it has a parent attribute to inherit from, so it bases it off the character base. Should be fixable without too much problems.

>>54464866
Cool cool. Just wanted to make sure you were aware it was a thing - I know how much other shit you have on the 'to do' plate already.

>>54464866
Hey, Yekka, whenever you end up fully implementing shapeshifters, are you planning on including the Provisional, non-Official errata under the houserules?

>>54464900
Regeneration and such? They can be handled through override files, there's no real reason to include them as a separate option.

>>54464671
A big company will have a mage to mind probe any unwilling subject. No need for crude violence.

>>54465123
In Aztechnology, that's regarded as part of the standard. Other companies it's a bit iffier.

>>54465431
Company who "found" the player is Saeder Krupp.
Company who wants the player to keep quiet is Ares.
Player is a dwarf with pretty high resistance against drugs.

>>54465592
Well, the character will know it's happening. It all depends on the level they were caught, and the resources. A local branch might not have a mage who knows the spell and try beating him, or shooting him. If it's SK-PRIME, they'll be going to parachute one in, who'll probably cast the spell while doing paperwork to have the dwarf turned into a lamp or something, with all of it fitted into a schedule.

>>54465592
>S-K v. Ares
Sounds to me like Ares is bending over and presenting their ass to accept whatever S-K is dishing out and that's that.

No one fucks with Azzies. Dragon killers be we. Blood magic we cast all night. Fear us and our magic might.

>>54465690
>Aztechnology discovers the power of the Lantern rings
gg 6th world, see you all in the 7th

>>54465732
>Blood Lantern Corps
I would love to see this.

>>54465769
You can say a lot of things about Aztec, but a lack of creative approaches is definitely not among those.

If a corp ever manages to make Lanterns a thing, it'll be Aztec.

How would you build one? Sustained Blood magic preparation? Is there a spell that comes close to "creativity manifestation"?

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>>54463530
Because he posted a picture and you didn't.

>>54465828
>implying Azzies would get Green

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>>54465954
There are other lanterns, you know. And all of them allow some form of creative forming of the constructs within their emotional realm.

>>54465690
How's the anger management skill of the average Azzie? Is the red lantern corps a little too on the nose?

>>54466036
In the corporate ranks? Fine. The high-end fruitcake sects of magicians tend to get used for a while, then annihilated. The Gestalt and Oscuro are a good example, especially with their spectacular burnout rate. The Priesthood is likely to be the next.

While we wait for bright to come out, what's the most shadowrun movie?

>>54466123
Heistwise, the Ocean's series.

Cyberpunk-wise...tossup between Bladerunner and Lawnmower Man

>>54465828
Resurrect the Single Spell Sustaining Foci from 3e. Make it out of one or two or more of the things depending on just how much flex you want to give out.

Then do something to make 'em hard to take off the person you're giving the ring to, keep the original mage safe, and volia.

>>54466123
Bladerunner for the atmosphere.
Dredd for more modern atmosphere, and a look at what happens when a bit of cop impersonation goes very, very wrong for a team.
Hentai Kamen for a look at early-Awakening era Adepts coming to grips with their powers.
The Ninth Gate is great, but I just like that movie. Very occult atmosphere, so for mage heavy, I guess? Also Johnny Depp gets fucked by the devil.

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>>54466178
>Then do something to make 'em hard to take off the person you're giving the ring to

Some kind of penalty to attune to it? Either that or the focus is from the custom Lantern tradition and therefore can't be used by people of other traditions.

>>54466257
Anchored manipulate spells in tattoos.

>>54466257
I was thinking more about physical things that make it hard to take the focus off the person because of how the Single Spell Sustaining Focus worked in 3e.

As soon as it was no longer touching or held by the person it was sustaining a spell on, it stopped sustaining that spell and the whole little ritual has to be done again by the mage that was attuned to the ritual.

So like a gauntlet or something.

>>54466286
Er, quickened.

>>54466327
>So like a gauntlet or something.

Some kind of ring, mebbe? They're hard to take off against a person's will (unless you cut off the whole finger, in which case they would cut off the entire hand or whatever it's attached to).

So do only the Azzies know how to cast blood magic or are there people who practice it on the side.

>>54466393
>>54466286

buttplug focuses.

>>54466420
There are plenty of other people who can use blood magic. It's just Aztechnology has a public (well, shadow public) perception of being a pack of blood magic obsessed fruitcakes.

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>>54466420
Lots of people know blood magic, the Aztecs just made a national passtime of it. For instance, a lot of vampires know it because they're Awakened and neck-deep in blood anyways.

>>54466393
A ring is too easy to take off. It needs to be harder.

And you need something to help avoid yellow, wood, and yellow wood. (I may have made mistakes in remembering the background of Alan Scott's ring.)

>>54466440
Just how dangerous is it if the big D himself but a bounty up for the head of every blood magic practitioner?

>>54466463
see
>>54466425

>>54466471
>Just how dangerous is it if the big D himself but a bounty up for the head of every blood magic practitioner?
are you being sarcastic?
Because I can imagine someone being not-well read enough to seriously ask that question

>>54466446
The Ordo probably does, but regular vampires not so much. It is a bit of a bitch to learn if you're not already getting molested by spirits of unpleasant aspects. Not like the vampires blood use really helps them with the magic unless they've got a powerful urge to cast right while they're feeding.
>>54466471
Dunkelzahn was concerned because 99% of practiced blood magic is 'death magic', taking from other beings. That sends the background count up. Makes things more pleasant for horrors, where other blood rituals nearly brought them over thousands of years early. It's also got some funky effects on the person using it, but those are mostly fluff based and dependent on how much of an arsehole they were before.

>>54466471
Pretty dangerous in the sense that it brings the Horrors closer faster before certain plans can come to fruition.

In the fighty sense? About as dangerous as any other mage.

>>54466513
Mystic adept blood mages are kind of scary as a concept. Combat focused with a bladed weapon and the right spell selection? Yeech.

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>>54466420
Quite a lot of people use Blood Magic, relatively speaking.

The Triads for one are known for it. Wouldn't surprise me if the Vory and the Mafia also had one or two blood mages on payroll regarding their cultural backgrounds.

Aztech however actually puts down major financial backing into their blood magic research. When talking about Aztechnology blood magic we're not talking about some guys with a library, a nice little Haven and some spell formulas off the Matrix, we're talking mages with free access to cloned and captured metahumans, fleshform spirits and more, sitting in a state-of-the-art research facility with the best damn hot coco machine in the world just sitting in the employee lounge.

>>54466471
Dunkelzahn was a wimp and a fgt. Lofwyr best Dragon, fite me.

>>54466502
The Forbidden Arcana story with Red has him, some random neophyte, and some old vampire all knowing blood magic. The Ordo definitely knows how to do it, and some initiate and Great Form ritual shit, but it's widespread knowledge enough that some fresh vampirette has put it together.

>>54466536
Yeah, Viscera Web is really nasty spell, but hey! It makes harvesting those expensive adept vein reagents a piece of cake.

>>54466557
Then that's the most fucking retarded story I've ever seen. Did they relax the whole "YOU CANNOT SELF INITIATE INTO BLOOD MAGIC" rule now? Shit, isn't Red supposed to be that elven nosferatu who survived pre-awakening anyway?

>>54466542
All the dragons are kind of shitty. I'd kill them all if the horrors wouldn't descend to fuck metahumanity in the ass.

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>>54466571
The implication is that Red is the one teaching this girl, and possibly that this old vamp taught Red (or at least has assumed a mentor-like role). I'm just saying there are informal societal structures that are spreading this knowledge.

He's not a nosferatu, just a straight-up vampire, but I can't recall the details.

>>54464985
And how do I 'override files?' I'm someone with zero coding knowledge of any kind.

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>>54466693
So she didn't just put it together herself. I can stop foaming at the mouth, then. Bitch thinks she's better than this glorious motherfucker? No.

Thematically it fits vampires, but it doesn't really help them mechanically, I guess. Not like you can stick blood in the freezer and use it for magic two weeks later unless you jam the rest of the metahuman in there. I guess the next stop on the abhorrent magic train is a version that works on spirits and makes everyone hate you even more.

>>54461392
>>>54460949 (You)
>I'm also the dude that started the street-sam code of honor debate.

Which one?

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>Running a game in Denver
>Party has to destroy a strip club stolen from the Vory by the Yakuza
>Said strip club is in the Aztlan sector at the moment
>Runners pile into the Rigger's van... which has a steel lynx in the back because "I don't know where else to put it."
>Rigger is driving, and decides that he needs to roll his knowledge of the city to know where the border crossings are and the best route to the target
>Critical Glitch on 7 dice
>"See, if we just go along Highway 25, we'll need to cross through the CAS border checkpoints out of the Hub and then another checkpoint into Aztlan territory. CAS border's along the hub aren't that hard to get through, so I guess the Aztlan ones wouldn't be either.
>Other runner decides he's going to roll a logic check because he's not the brightest and wants to know if his character would go along with it
>Another critical glitch
>"This is a brilliant plan."
>The rigger nearly gets caught on a scan at the first border checkpoint as his fake SIN is nearly spotted. Luckily, they wave him through after a second scan thinking there was an error
>Border MP's so easily passed by, the party of two forges ahead
>To the Aztlan Checkpoint. With the CAS sector. In Denver.
>Helicopters and Tanks on both sides, APC's and obvious full on military hardware and bunker emplacements dotting the crossing area.
>Runners merrily roll up to checkpoint and allow them to scan their SIN's
>Rigger (who is also a techno, this will be important soon) once again has a near miss with the SIN
>This time though, the second scan blows through the Fake SIN and they are all shouted at in spanish to get out of the car, hands on head, onto the ground
>Somehow, the other Runner passes his Sin check
>With assault rifles leveled at them, and handcuffed (in the first session) the rigger decides to burn an edge point to see how they could get out of this
>That's when the car behind them explodes

>>54462144
>buying an additional book

You already fucked up omae.

>>54460782
Infinite Gun Works?

Does anyone have info on the Gambler mentor spirit? Apparently it's in some book called Schattenhandbuch 2 and I don't exactly speak german.

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>>54467001
>Absolute fucking chaos, as the botched terror attack distracts the Azzies manning the border
>The Rigger/Techno decides to summon a sprite to try and see if he can get the van moving and that the party can use the distraction of the car bomb to get in the van and get the fuck out
>He manages to get a Force 5 sprite to compile... but doesn't get enough hits to actually be able to command it to do anything
>The Machine Sprite notices a Drone in the back of the Rigger's van. A big drone, with a big gun.
>It jumps into the steel lynx, bursts out the back of the van, and then proceeds to kill one of the guards
>The sprite *then* decides "OH LET'S HAVE MORE FUN" and gremlin's a nearby helicopter
>Nothing but hits
>Azzie helicopter ripple fires it's AT missiles at the CAS forces
>Dodging assault rifle fire, and still handcuffed, the techno/rigger manages to climb into the van along with the other runner, and commands it to jump off the interstate to avoid getting blown up as shit is going fucking DOWN now
>Artillery and mortar fire rain down on both sides of the border, and the Sprite in the Lynx proceeds to go on a killing spree in the Aztlan checkpoint before being taken out after it runs out of ammunition
>Still handcuffed, and riding in the van, the party proceeds to steer their way to the target, obviously now tracked by Azzie forces
>Parking next to the club, they free themselves from the handcuffs and bolt away before the Eagle Warriors or whatever can arrive
>From a distance proceed to see the club get fucking stormed by a black ops team, and nobody seems to get out
>MissionAccomplished.jpg
>At this point though, no chance of them getting paid, as denver has turned into a free fire zone and Ghostwalker is going absolutely batshit on the Azzies and the UCAS/Sioux forces who siezed the opportunity to try and take the Hub
>Literally in the first run, because of a critical glitch, on a knowledge roll, Denver is now a warzone again.

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>>54467001
>>54467157
And that is how my first time running Fifth Edition went.

God fucking damn, I didn't think it could get this crazy.

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>>54467001
The Rigger/Technomancer from this session, here.
I really have nothing to say.
Probably should've bought better fake SINs.

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>>54467157
>>54467001
>>54467174

>>54467157
That went about as expected, it seems.

>>54467758
Honest to god, I didn't expect any of it. The dice just worked out that way.

>>54468269
dice and bad decisions.

>>54467001
>>54467157
Amazing.

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Anyone up to holecheck the mission I wish to run next week?

>Johnson wants runner to abduct a coma patient from a low-security clinic
>Biker gang attack is to be the distraction needed
>Biker gang contact provided by Johnson is a lieutenant who wants out
>Players can choose to go in with fire support from the bikers or go in silent and wait for the attack as a distraction to get out
>Johnson wants them to then drive across town and deliver the patient to a Bunraku parlor
>Depending on how run went they will have to use vehicle combat rules for this
>After drop, Centurion blasts the doors of the Bunraku parlor to save the S-K citizen (the coma patient)
>Characters can earn an additional bit of cash for a milk run of dropping off the body-cam recordings of Centurion troops, provided by Johnson, to the local news station

The idea is that S-K wants to show how incompetent the local security contractor is to get Centurion to be hired for that job while at the same time creating a bit of fire between the local Vory and Vikings.

remind me, how does translating for Dragons work? Why don't dragon speak the language of the place they live? How do they find translators who speak Draconic?

I cannot remember and don't have my books with me

>>54468814
Dragons can't speak human languages with their dracoform bodies, so they choose metahumans to act as Voices. A Voice is a representative of the dragon as much as a direct translator.

>>54468814
I only remember how Dajvar and Dunkelzahn communicated, and that was via telepathy.

As far as I know, Dragons do speak metahuman languages all the time though.

>>54468390
So the plan is for Mr. Johnson to be doublecrossing the shadowrunners by intentionally running them into live fire situations completely blind?

Because that's a way to get blacklisted in the shadow community, and turn a game into a revenge run.

>>54468814
>>54468864
Also the dragon communicates telepathically with the Voice, and could do it with others if they chose. Don't know if this is a dragon thing or just a spell similar to many such telepathy spells developed in the Sixth World.

>>54468875
Nope. The only thing Johnson will not tell the characters is the goal of the operation.

Centurion will get activated once the Runners report in with Johnson for their reward after dropping off to make sure that they are not caught in the crossfire.

The situation with the Vikings is up to the characters. They'll be warned that the Vikings are going to raid the clinic in any case and Johnson is giving them a contact to coordinate with that raid.

>>54468920
So they're aware that the Centurion raid is going to happen?

>>54468937
Not unless they thoroughly scan the surroundings before the drop-off. But they won't see Centurion in action in any case since Johnson will only give the go-ahead once the runners are done with dropping off the patient and are out of the parlor.

>>54468968
Get ready for that stage of the run to go wrong, with the runners deciding to get into a standoff against them or avoid the 'compromised' drop point.

>>54468984
Hmm, okay. Would I be able to close the hole by having Johnson let the Centurion-team know about the Runners or would I just undermine the "String pulling" aspect of the world by doing so?

I could also have the Centurion team only be called after the second Johnson meet and have the runners watch the live feed with Johnson instead.

>>54469035
>I could also have the Centurion team only be called after the second Johnson meet and have the runners watch the live feed with Johnson instead.
That's the better option, yeah. Don't even put them in the field until after the run's already over.

>>54469049
Thinking about it, that works even better for the whole thing.

My idea is for Johnson to only give the runners the recording of the raid if they avoided major fuckups like being recorded by local law enforcement before. With this scene I could either have Johnson hand over the data to one of his goons or the runners after they watched it happen live depending on their performance so far.

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There don't seem to be any options for implanted sniper rifles, which I can understand from a sort of balance and logistical aspect. However, one of my players wanted to basically dedicate themselves to turning into a big dumb sniper rifle with the gun barrel extending out of their arm or something. What kind of essence cost might an implanted sniper rifle have? Looking at other implant weapons for reference, the shotgun has a 1.25 essence cost while the grenade launcher has a 1.5 essence cost. The guy really wants to make this work, and so do I, so I'm asking you chummers for some help figuring this out.

>>54469443
Cyber Implant Weapons < Weapon Mounts in Cyberlimbs

Just let him have a cyberarm and use the rules for weapon mounts from Rigger 5.0 (Page 124).

If you use a pop-out mount he can ready the weapon with a free action and he also gains the ability to replace the weapon or take it out if you don't want to get into too much trouble at the airport.

Add in a n expanded ammo bay for him to stash some stuff and he's good to go.

This will use up 6 Capacity in total (5 for the Huge weapon mount, 1 for the ammo bay) and leave him with 2 points of capacity to use on other stuff with a Synthetic limb or 9 points with an obvious limb, which I would recommend so that he may slot in a Cyberarm gyromount.

>>54469656
Correction, a pop-up mount would use one more capacity, so the data is:

>Synthetic arm has 1 Capacity left over
>Obvious arm has 8 capacity left over
Which, together with the Gyrosystem would make an obvious arm a full thing.

>>54469443
I'd have it be an Extreme Cyber Inplant Weapon in an arm, or take like 1.5ess

>>54469728
>>54469656
Mod slots arent balanced to be 1:1 to capacity, I'd say at least double the capacity or just have the sniper rifle implant take up [15]

>>54469754
That would make it rather useless though, considering he needs to tank recoil with that arm and without Enhancements that would mean strength 3.

I mean I'd allow it. It's an obvious cyberarm with restrcited gear fused to it that allows him to shoot a sniper rifle or machine gun with sub-par recoil control.

>>54469798
If you want to take additional augments you can add a Bulk rating, that gives you slots in return for increasing the size of the arm

Your choice: Unassuming looking cyberarm with shit RC or decent RC but have the arm be fuckhuge

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>>54469850
Pretty much. The standard arm with a Gyromount will have Recoil control of 5 on the first shot, 4 on everything after.

I'd say that whatever shoulder pads your rifle has need not apply to this form of firing, so each shot will count against that value, leaving him with four bullets before he needs to chill.

The maximum bulk he can add to a cyberarm is 4, meaning he could max out that arm to get a recoil control of amazing 6 points for the first shot and 5 thereafter.

I don't think that this is OP at all. Barring the costs of that whole setup, it also comes with the added benefits of a sniper rifle popping out of your arm together with spinning gyros. While very Deus Ex in its appearance, it pretty much bars this character from ever entering an old ladies home ever again.

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Holy shit! This is probably the closest we'll ever get to a live action Shadowrun movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EZCBSsBxko

>>54469443
That's probably take up all the capacity in one arm but I don't see why he would ever. It sounds increadibly inefficient.
Now if he were to turn one of his legs into an easily detachable limb that was a sniper rifle, that I could get behind.

>>54470813
Stop

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>>54470813
Stop posting

>>54470836
>>54470857
Yes, good. Feed it more.

>>54470893
Stop

>>54470836
>>54470857
>>54470921

Get fucked. One way or the other, you're going to watch it. Doesn't matter if you have a legit Netflix subscription or you pirate it or watch it on a free streaming site. You're going to watch it.

>>54471055
It's by the guy who made Suicide Squad and Fury. I think I'm good.

>>54471069
>Suicide Squad
>Contains Will "Scientology" Smith
Dropped like a THOR shot

>>54471055
>One way or the other, you're going to watch it

Your confidence in this assertion is most definitely misplaced. We're not all giant indiscriminate plebs like you.

>>54471055
I will pirate it, and mock it.

>>54466123
Strange Days.

>>54471235
>Strange Days.
Especially if you're into BTLs, bunraku parlors, and other mind-fucking street crime.

>>54471230
Very well. But you're still going to watch it. ;^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GPGQoR6f6w

Ya'll niggas talking about this shitty Will Smith movie like it will ever top the canon live action Shadowrun stuff.

>>54471186
And I guess Shadowrun fluff is truly for the discriminating connoisseur of good taste in fiction.

>>54471330
...Is that a keyboard?

I want to watch Bright starring Will Smith, the most accurate Shadowrun movie yet, while a pixie technomancer with a blood crystal arm wearing a Sleeping Tiger dress fists me in the ass, while I eat out Eiger's essence-costing Leonized vag, Hestaby watching from afar via live-stream by a Street-Sam AI inhabiting a drone with no code of honor, stroking herself cautiously because she's dual-wielding cyber-implanted sniper-rifles.

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>>54471714
What did you think early decks were?

>>54471330
>those crappy red eyes on the logo
>when the other two have to physically stop the mage from posing
>the decker has to get the sammy to open all the circuit boxes
>sammy does nothing else the entire run
>TARDIS knockoff console room
>DOS FMV game Matrix
>video title says 1990, end card says 1991
Hell yeah. That's what I'm looking for.
Were there actually any metahumans in that clip? Apart from the bit where the mage KO's the guard it looked totally interchangeable with CP2020.

>>54466708
https://github.com/chummer5a/chummer5a/wiki/Custom-Data-Files
It's not super difficult, you essentially just copy the data and make the changes you want.

>>54471910
I hope they finally give Riggers the same treatment in SR6. Deckers can now jack in with their brains with a full deck but RCC's, which are basically jacked-up comlinks are still suitcase-sized.

As far as streamlining goes, I really wish Deckers and Riggers had gotten the same full treatment as Shamans and Mages.

>>54471330
>sammy does nothing but open boxes
>decker does fine opening doors, but screws up and alerts security when trying to do anything more complex
>mage is the most useful
Looks about right.

>>54468814
In dragon form they have a critter power that let's them telepathically talk to a person, but it only works on one person at a time. Hence the need for an "interpreter" to relay their speech to a crowd.

>>54471330
>Bad acting
>Awful visuals
>Mostly useless characters
>Street Sam refuses proper Sam etiquette of frequent swearing
>The Decker screws up
>Poor security, no backup
This really hits close to home.

Which is better, SR4 or SR5?

>>54473874
I'll answer you after you install some used Move-by-Wire 3 in yourself.

>>54473911
I'll interpret that as 4th has better augmentation rules.

Anyone got that German map of Seattle with a bunch of places marked on it? I got a friend who is dming in Seattle and knows a little German

>>54474345
4 is a bit less stupid, but needs some houseruling. It's also a lot less lethal than 5. Limits are moderately retarded as a concept. I get where they're coming from, but putting them on *everything* is just stupid because of one trollish bow monster build. It's just more book keeping for no good reason, esp when the bolt on fix they released is good enough.

Play 4a, and use your GM hat to change the rules whenever you spot something incredibly retarded. If it isn't lethal enough for you, use SR5 tables for weapons.

>>54474981
>I get where they're coming from
Apparently not, because limits exist not just to cap hits, but also to make spending Edge (the time when limits come off) comparatively better.

>>54474981
>trollish bow monster build
I thought pornomancers were the big reason for limits.

>>54475199
Large skill dice pools in general.

Troll bows got their own slap.

>>54475174
There's already plenty of things to spend edge on. Just bolting on another for a problem they've made is silly.

I'm going to make a nutso speed junkie on a motorbike.
What's the best way to have him and his motorcycle be as on fire as possible without them dying/exploding?

>>54475462
Permanent flame illusion spell?
I'm new and what is this, but I just finished core and started steet grimoire, seems like a thing you can do

>>54475370
You're right. They should have kept dice pools reasonable.

>>54475641
Most games do have reasonable dicepools, unless you're playing with minmaxers.

>>54475462
Magic is one way... or you can have AR set up on your motorbike so everyone with a comlink(everyone) can see your totally sick digital paint job.

>>54475671
>>54475555
What if we used chem foggers full of flammables?

>>54475660
Is 35 soak unreasonable?

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>>54475671
See now that makes more sense, I didn't think about how even simple magic is probably crazy much more expensive than a simple ARO

>>54475736
Pretty much, yes.

>>54475777
Oh. I didn't think I'd minmaxed terribly hard.

>>54475804
I might be missing something, sure, but I just can't think how you'd get to running around with 35 dice. Even a troll in military armour wouldn't be packing that. Close, tho.

>>54475819
5 Body, 2 from one cyberlimb, 3 from another, Heavy Security Armour, and another two from Radiation Shielding 2/Insulation 2/Nonconductivity 2/Fire Resistance 2. 28+5+2=35.

>Never played a tabletop game
>Got interested in Shadowrun by videogame

Any good books and other shit I can read to scratch this itch?

>>54475952
Which itch? Lore, novels, rules?

>>54475962
Lore most of all with novels being secondary.

>>54475995
6th World Almanac and the Shadows of [Area] series are good places to start.

>>54475671
Use trid projectors instead, that way everyone has to see it.

>>54475896
Okay, I had my editions mixed up. 33 in that case isn't that bad, and heavy security armour isn't early game gear. REasonable for a character like that. 35 out of the gate is another thing entirely.

>>54475736
>>54475660
>not having 70+ soak dice in 4e or 5e
omae do you even soak THOR shots?

>>54476028
ありがとございます、 アノンーさん

One more question, how did omae become slang for friend? Did Japan somehow gain popularity worldwide?

>>54476172
Shadowrun originates in the late 80s, when Japan was still in a massive economic boom period.

>>54476172
Japan suddenly becoming a big thing is a pretty common theme in lots of cyberpunk stuff, what with being an 80's vision of the future.

>>54476187
Oh, that makes a lot of sense.

>>54466978
The one about street sams requiring a code of honor. Every once in awhile somebody brings it up and depending on who's lurking, it'll derail the thread.

>>54472078
Maybe it's not super difficult, but I don't have whatever background is required to even understand those instructions.

So what y'all think about that new Will Smith movie 'Bright'?

>>54475462
The Channeling metamagic and a spirit with as many AoE fire powers as possible.

>>54476341
It's quickly becoming a "mums the word" sort of deal.

I don't mind it. I hope a decent shadowrun movie comes out cause of it.

>>54476330
Copy an existing data file (cyberware, whatever), slap custom_ on the front, open it up in a text editor, change some of the entries to describe your new item(s), and save it. Duplicate items use the Base Data File data in preference to the custom one, so you don't need to worry about that.

>>54476368

Mums the world?

>>54476546
"it gets posted every thread, it looks okay, so let's just stop talking about it for five minutes for fucks sakes and hope it's good".

>>54476546
Essentially this. >>54476563

If you look through the last /srg/ i'm fairly certain is was brought up 3 or 4 times separately by people who saw it and went "WOAH DUDE, SHADOWRUN."

>>54476571
let me iterate a bit - this isn't negative in anyway, it can just be slightly annoying.

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It's been a thing for like a day or two and I'm already sick of it picrelated

In a different vein, I'm working on making my first character and I could use some general advice.

Ork shaman from Sioux Nation with a background in smuggling/talislegging. Real name Eidel [Roaring Wind? Howling Wind? Runs-with-wind?], runner handle Smiley aka Smileyface (totem is Saber Toothed Cat, aka Smilodon).

Thinking of a Cpt Malcolm Reynolds a la Firefly in terms of abilities. Thinking of starting out with a Toyota Gopher. I know not to jack-of-all-trades too much, but I want at least basic blades, pistols, athletics, survival, and influence skills, and am willing to sacrifice max magic to do it. Is this feasible? Is it advisable?

tl;dr modern girl wants it all

>>54476706
Don't think too hard about it. There's a good chance he'll die - rough out the mechanical side, and write down all your character ideas on a piece of paper. Bleed them into your RP as he gets older.

And jack of all trades is pretty shite, you're right. Pick up 1-2 ranks in skill groups like outdoors and influence, pass it off as tribal upbringing/shaman training. Enough that you won't cop a dicepool penalty. Leave the vehicles out of it - have your tech head steal one, or let it be your riggers problem. If you're so desperate to be hyper mobile outside a job, invest in a levitate spell and an improved invisibility spell and pretend you're wonder woman. Also a bus pass. Magic requires a lot of investment to be 'good' - luckily, Shamans have charisma as a drain stat so you'll be able to bullshit your way through most early negotiation and bullshitting until you get enough karma to advance your influence skill group even more.

>>54476390
So what you're saying is bite the bullet, accept I won't be able to use Chummer for this, and just build the character in a word document. Because I don't know which file I'd find shapeshifters in, nor how to change/add secret code words once the file's open to make them different.

My knowledge of computer code begins and ends with 'actions movies featuring a hacker' and 'I played a decker in Shadowrun once.'

>>54462144
>Yes buying an additional book allows me to add +2 DV to the 6 shot burst with the fantastic action "Brain Blaster".

That shit is only useful against doors and objects. When shooting at a living target, the -6/-9 to dodge on the normal full auto burst ends up with more net hits and thus higher damage than the +2 (and a higher chance of hit).

lrn2math

>>54476825
Look man, it's not witchcraft. Most of what you'd want to do is already documented.
https://github.com/chummer5a/chummer5a/wiki/Metatypes

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>>54476848
>Look man, it's not witchcraft.
What's the saying? 'It's all Greek to me?' I get that you've got some kind of background sorting this may-as-well-be-witchcraft out, but I've got a feeling it'll take me long enough to figure out that I'm better off just doing it the old-fashioned way.

Don't worry about it.

>>54476829
not that anon, but it doesn't state that brain blaster loses the -6 to dodge on the enemy. I know i'm probably going to be foot in mouth in a second cause I have read exactly zero of the errata.

>>54476825
The only difference between someone who knows how to use computers and someone who doesn't is that the latter stopped trying because it looked hard.
Especially the new generation of arrivals to the Internet are intimidated by everything which looks like something they'll have to put effort in to get, assuming that it must be some kind of wizardry because they haven't learned it yet, but it isn't really that fucking hard.
I've seen so many fucking people remain drooling retards who need to call over friends to use their own computer, and I've seen a lot of people get to the level where they can actually find what they need themselves, giving themselves skills for the future and learning that, unlike what the modern world tells you, you can't always get what you want by sitting down and bawling as soon as you have to try.
It's not that fucking hard.
Everyone else can do it.
It's better for you to learn it now than regret it later.
Yes, I'm mad. It's so fucking frustrating to see yet another new-age snowflake be wiltingly passive-aggressive about being told to acquire a basic fucking skill on the Internet instead of making life easier for everyone (including themselves) and putting in some actual effort.
You make yourself look polite and sensitive, but the only thing you're saying is "bawww, I have to put in effort", and I'm not even sure you realize it yourself. What Tumblr and Facebook did to the Internet is just sad.

>>54476906
Pretty sure it's just another one of those cases where CGL just tiptoes around actually giving an answer or a clear explanation of how things interact.

Like how punching someone with shock gloves on can magically make all the impact and damage from the punch disappear, even if you didn't go touch-only for the +2.

>>54476929
>hurr millennials
You know most of the technologically illiterate are the older generations, right?

>>54476929
>new generation of arrivals to the Internet
>new-age snowflake
>What Tumblr and Facebook did to the Internet
I'm 47, you presumptuous cunt.

>>54476950
Sorry, we've further inflated the vague definition of millennials to now apply to everyone below 50, you filthy millennial.

>>54476950
>47
damn, you're my mom's age. how long have you been playing TTRPGs?

>>54476957
God damned elves.

>>54476977
Early 90s - I don't know the exact year. Before Shadowrun had a second edition, so it must have been 90 or 91? I got into tabletop near the end of college.

>>54476996
Hooray! I don't feel like the oldest person shitposting anymore!

>>54476950
Did you not have a computer with a DOS or Basic prompt?

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>>54476950
"You presumptuous cunt" is now my new favorite insult.

>>54477048
I didn't get a computer until Windows 95.

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>>54477048

>>54477073
Get fucked

>>54476906
Dude, Brain Blaster is it's own complex action. You only get the penalty to dodge when using the Full Auto Fire action. That shit is basic rule literacy.

>>54476996
except all the other extra damage complex actions from the same book say that you forfeit the dodge penalty for damage dumb shit.

>>54476996
That's cool as fuck. What's your campaigns like?

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>>54477206
Non-stop 80s retro-trash. It's like Captain Planet and Robocop adopted Thundarr the Barbarian as their retard baby.

>>54477247
That sounds awesome even though I only know one of those.

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>>54477295
Thundarr the Barbarian is an 80s cartoon where, following the apocalypse, Earth becomes a Swords & Sorcery & Scifi setting:
https://youtu.be/LhAobPugvsk

Captain Planet is a 90s cartoon where a bunch of teenagers are given magical powers by the Earth Goddess. They can fuse their powers together in a ritual to summon a super-powerful spirit, and use their shamanic might to oppose Toxic Mage uber-capitalists:
https://youtu.be/ogMBLRHJYXU

Robocop is an 80s movie where, in near-future cyberpunk Detroit, a cop gets gunned down and reconstructed as a cyberzombie by an evil megacorporation as a PR stunt to sell a new line of drones:
https://youtu.be/c3W5HUz7vyY

Robocop is for the inner cities, and is what half of the original guns and cyberware was based off of in the first place. Captain planet is how I tend to run the magical ecoterrorists living on the fringes of civilization. And Thundarr the Barbarian? That's what the abandoned wild places between Sprawls has become.

It's grotesque, but it's how I've been playing Shadowrun for going on 30 years, so I'm going to pretend it's the one-true-way to play.

It's my birthday. Tell me a story of a run gone wrong.

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>>54475724
As a rule, you don't want to be trailing explosive vapour when driving a motorcycle, especially when you might be driving through a firefight.

>>54477959
There was this Corp kid whose parents thought he had an unhealthy fixation with celebrity shadowrunners. They paid us an initial sum to kidnap him and traumatize him a little, them give him back later in exchange for the second part of our payment - as his 'ransom.' It was supposed to be a way of scaring him straight.

Well, things went sideways. The corp got wind of the grab, and they sent a HTR team at us for hostage rescue. It's when they burst in that the kid reveals he's been using mommy's expense account to buy restricted combat ware - because he bursts his bonds and starts blowing cops away, ostensibly on our side.

When the smoke finally clears we cut him loose, not wanting to be involved in this garbage fire of a situation for even one moment longer. We figure he'll go back home or something - it's not like he has real contacts. He's just some 16-year-old corp kid.

Last we heard, though, 'The Kid' has been making big waves in the shadow community the past few months. He's on his way up.

We never got the second part of our payment.

>>54477959
Happy birthday anon

>Three players
>Rigger, Mage, Gunner
>Johnson wants us to scare the shit out of a privileged elven girl that has been blowing family money on "living the runner lifestyle"
>We split up, Gunner and Mage are to meet the girl, Rigger is to prepare a "run" for her
>Mage gets her to believe us and join the group for a data retrieval
>Rigger has been spooping out the abandoned church the group calls home
>Gunner, Mage and Elven girl arrive on site
>Get greeted by automatic fire from turrets loaded with fake ammo
>Duck and cover
>Elven girl pulls out a pistol and actually hits one of my turrets badly
>Grind teeth but let it happen. That's what an expense account is for
>They break into the church under gunfire, get greeted by the church covered in everything the rigger could find on such short notice in a halloween shop
>Drones with red eyes flying everywhere
>Mage asks what happened to his area
>Fake blood in his circles
>Mage desperately tries to control himself
>Elven girl manages to find the Gunners stash of specialty weapons
>Arms herself with two Uzis
>Gunner is now unhappy too
>She starts blasting the riggers drones
>This is turning to shit fast, and the girl is having the time of her life instead of being spooped
>Despite the best efforts of the group, she retrieves the "paydata"
>Standing orders not to hurt her
>Lets get out of here and regroup to discuss further plans
>As we leave, the girl spouts a one-liner
>"Cool girls don't look at explosions"
>She tosses grenades over her shoulder that she stole from the gunners stash

We didn't get payed that day. Furthermore, we lost a perfectly good hideout and had to find a new one after the gunners grenade and ammo stash exploded.

>>54478977
>>54478965
Seems our GM's are two peas in a pod.

Fuck kids

>>54477959
Read the Denver story earlier in the thread

>>54478987
>Fuck kids
no anon
not even in the 6th world

>>54479012
Joke aside, about that.

Considering BTL is a thing a Virtual Reality can be made to look and feel as real as you want to, how do you deal with those seedier aspects of the future?

The description of the Shiawase I-Doll from Rigger 5 even calls them "Robo-grilfriends", probably for those that do not wish for "just" BTL.

How sexed up are your worlds? Did you ever have a Bunraku-Parlor show up?

I find it difficult not be disgusted by even the idea of those things, but I feel like they should be a part of such a world. On the other hand, I almost gagged while reading the section on Biodrones, so my composure must be very low.

>>54479100
One of the Missions adventures has you walk in on a young girl mid bunraku surgery.

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>>54479158
That's fine and dandy, but my question was more about if and if so, how you guys describe red light districts and seedier areas of life in the shadows. How common is it to find a Schoolgirl-bot in an execs private chamber for example? How common are BTL-parlors focussed on sex, and how profitable are they? Is there open advertising for such things? Considering the I-Doll is a Shiawase product, I would imagine so, but how do people advertise something that can clearly be used for purposes of erotic roleplay with a child-like entity.

Whats the max age you would allow an elf PC to be without calling bullshit?

>>54479559
67 in 2078, everything else would make the character a pre-UGE elf which is better reserved for very rare NPC's

>>54479594
All the awakened ones were found by Laverty and his Xavier foundation. I guess you could play a misanthropic older one who was a spike baby, but didn't get any juicy, juicy magic.

Other option is that the manastorms in Tir Na Nog have apparently caused spontaneous elf-ification in people before. One of the 2e books. Could play someone who was a pre-awakening human and ended up going full elf thanks to the manastorms.

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>>54479895
Do you really want a character from a bad X-Men fanfic in your game?

Leave spike babies to NPC's

>>54479945
I don't like all of the history of the game, but a character with almost no surrounding backstory and one particular bit of a name that's a shoutout really isn't that bad.

>>54479983
>almost no surrounding backstory and one particular bit of a name that's a shoutout
Just be glad you didn't buy Tir Tairngire when it came out. It contains more than just what you can find on Shadowiki and the Xavier foundation is worse than you could imagine. There`s a good reason they never mentioned this particular piece of background ever again and passively retconned more than half the book in later publications.

>>54480050
Yeah, I've seen that little post in there, and it's pretty much just a rough outline at best. Not a fanfiction.

>>54480090
It still kinda sucks.

>Collecting "Talented" youths
>In a highly respected institution
>Sean Laverty is literally the best
>Such a good person
>He saw the future coming
>He used the influence garnered with this institution to become a prince

Everyone does at their table what they want, but I surely wouldn't allow a Spikebaby elf. Mana Surge storm mutation with a good story sure, but "raised in the lap of luxury by a man that would become one of the princes of Tir Tairngire" doesn't ring SINless runner for me.

>>54480187
He's a 4th world druid, as far as I know. Hardly 'the besterest everest'. It's pretty obviously a shout-out to x-men, sure.

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>>54480187
>"raised in the lap of luxury by a man that would become one of the princes of Tir Tairngire" doesn't ring SINless runner for me.

The obvious solution to that is that there is no requirement to be a SINless runner. Get a Tir Tangerine national SIN and come up with a reason why you could never return to the warm embrace of the fascist elves. you could go full Bend and be an ex-Ghost if you want

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>>54480229
Okay, I'll admit that I would allow an Ex-Ghost if the player knew what he was signing up for.

That would probably never happen at my table though, my players didn't even bat an eye when a piece of Paydata was signed by Doc Raven.

Speaking of immortal elves, would the fluff be better or worse if instead of them having survived since the 4th World, have them actually be FROM the 4th World, same as the dragons? They hide themselves from the Horrors in another metaplane. Time fuckery happens, their alchera anchors start working again and they emerge in Tir na nOg and Oregon, then proceed to reconquer 'their' territory using advanced magical shenanigans and nobody cares about Ireland, so they're able to establish beachheads without too much difficulty. The burgeoning population of newborn elves flock to these locations out of solidarity and a desire to be among their own kind, some of whom are able to assist the original elves to integrate with our society.

Potential plotholes and caveats:
* Large number of elves that now know about Metaplot bullshit like Horrors
* Still doesn't do a great deal to explain how the fuck the elves took over all of Ireland
* More Harlequins

>>54480405
Not sure how it really changes from the current era. There's at least one ED era city still in a bottle somewhere in the metaplanes. The newly emerged elves would have a hell of a time (and a body count) adjusting to the new world; most don't have int stats in the double digits.

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>>54480340
Wolf and Raven came out like 3 editions ago, and 20 years irl, and Stackpole hasn't written anything else for SR in about that long. There's no reason that a player would know about Doctor Raven without some really intensive reading of old novels.

>>54480340
The only pixie I've ever seen played well was an Ex-Ghost. A specialist for infiltration missions who was left for dead given his lack of (official) existence on a particularly rough mission. It's not necessarily that he couldn't go back, but rather, he had one hell of a grudge.

>>54480405
Isn't that more or less what Court of Shadows is about? Bunch of elves that have been stuck in perpetual cocksucking for the past few thousand years, so they are more or less the same as when they went in. Then they took over Ireland, and now are just doing random bullshit.

>>54480405
I have actually been running with this for three years now. I always liked the british isles folklore around the Sidhe and have ruled that Harlequin, Ehran and the others took refuge in faerie for the duration of the 5th. This extended metaplanar washing left them being somewhat half Sidhe, half elf in the end. The Tir's, Pomorya and such where then created as the moonpaths reopened and ended in the areas where those stand now. Brocéliande on the other hand is a very hard to find path in faerie in my world, which is why it has less connection to the immortals.

>>54480484
Sure, it was just one example. I really like my group, don't get me wrong, but I would certainly be surprised if someone came up with a lore-heavy character background such as >>54480484
one day.

>>54480559
Nah. The Court of Shadows is the TNN Seelie Court, but was only really 'populated' during the Awakening, with all the little shithead elves moving into the metaplane.

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>>54461780
WHAT FUCKING INDRED MONGOLOID GARBAGE BROWSING YOU ARE USING THAT IT SAVED THE DAMN GOOD PICTURE INTO SHIT UTTER SHIT STATE

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>>54480896
Sir? Are you feeling allright?

>>54480965
I'm kinda tempted to ruin the image and repost it for him.

>>54481033
I don't really get what he's capslocking about. Just because the picture posted by Yekka is 1/10th the size?

>>54481122
Anon obviously cares a lot about an image of a squid (kid?) almost being lewd. It's very precious to him.

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>>54480896
Here ya go

>>54481208
not pixelated enough

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>>54481122
Image reposting that ruins the artwork greatly pisses me off.

>>54481208
Not bad enough. I could still fap to that.

>>54481208
Nah, purposeful joke doesn't matter.

>>54477054
I'm not even 30 and I used one of those. I even used an old fashioned typewriter before.

True story.

>>54477380
It may not be the One True Way, but it sounds both thematically appropriate and true to the fluff.

I'd happily play in your games, consider it stolen for my own.

I want to repost a pixelated, deep fried image of Marie from Splatoon while watching the new Shadowrun movie Bright, starring Will Smith, as a pixie technomancer with a blood-crystal arm weapon focus fists me as I eat out a recently Essence-costing Leonized Eiger, who is being anally vored by Hestaby (wearing a Sleeping Tiger dress, the trashy whore) while a street-sam AI drone with no code of honor films it all and uploads it to JackPoint, the greatest and most inclusive shadownet on the Matrix!

Hey I wanted to get my friends into Shadowrun and I have the new book but that book is fuck huge and there is a ton of shit to remember.
Anyone got any advice on a new gm to shadowrun running a game also for new players?
Also what do I ban or not allow since I have heard if you give players access to everything they will fuck you hard.
Should I also not allow hackers since I would have to essentially run a matrix only session for that player?

>>54481616
There's a neat intro in the pastebin that might answer your questions.

>>54479218
Depends on your game. Generally stick to below anything that would require all parties to be adults level of seedy.

If you're in a straight up adult game, then anything goes.

>>54481616
this>>54481639
>Should I also not allow hackers since I would have to essentially run a matrix only session for that player?
If you do this, you're doing it wrong.

>>54481594
I get the feeling that something is missing here, but I don't know what

Oh right, Eiger needs huge tits through cosmetic surgery

>>54481694
So how do I handle people wanting to be hackers then?
Speed through the matrix sections?, or have people do something else while the hacker is hacking like a gun fight?

>>54478965
>>54478977
Amazing.

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>>54481759
5e is deliberately set up to encourage integration of Matrix and physical activity. That and basic GM skill to move the spotlight around (which you need anyways when you might have an infiltrator going in the back, a street sam and mage ambushing a patrol out front, and the face inside distracting the guy looking at the security monitors) are enough.

What would you consider a prime runner?

>>54481808
Ok thanks.
Like I mentioned ive not played it I got the book and I am trying to go over it but it is the biggest book ive read for a tabletop game.
Is it a good idea to ban certain items or let them have at anything?, I will be using just the core book so we can get used to the game.

>>54479218
Here's my personal two cents. I'll take these in order.

>how you guys describe red light districts and seedier areas of life in the shadows.
For a red light district, kind of shitty, but nowhere near Redmond levels of shitty. It'll be the kind of place that has a degree of business that they can afford to avoid the worst of urban decay, but it'll be the sort of place where technology is just scaffolding the local community from collapsing rather than lifting it up and improving life, so expect a lot of improvised and second hand stuff. As for the people, /like/ Redmond, but without the squatters and hobos; expect a lot of hustlers who want to entice you into doing business rubbing elbows with rough gangers or mobsters of some flavor who look like they would be happier to see you spend your money and leave. More professional and successful establishments would be better and putting up a friendly facade.

>How common is it to find a Schoolgirl-bot in an execs private chamber for example?
Probably not as common as you would think. While salarymen do love their *cough* toys, most would have a wife who wouldn't approve of that sort of thing. Most could afford a mistress anyways.

>How common are BTL-parlors focussed on sex, and how profitable are they?
As common and as successful as the DM wants. In a less meta view, most parlors would offer that as an option rather than a specialization. No reason to limit your business like that.

That said, any that /do/ specialize in sex BTLs sound like they would be the high-end kind of shit, dealing in professionally shot and edited stuff that's not actually a lot better than street BTLs, but they would charge a premium for their brand and professionalism. Expect them to be a mob subsidiary, and to cater to the wealthy.

>Is there open advertising for such things?
No. Unless you're in Consortium territory (read: Las Vegas). Otherwise, it would strictly be by word of mouth or by invitation.

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>>54481890
Nothing from core. The only gear I can think of to ban in other books are Noizquitos, which are already pseudo-banned RAW in errata because the designers realise they fucked up.

Some people say you should ban all the racial options from Run Faster. IMO not necessary, but if you're just starting you might as well have them make characters with the core metatypes and look to see if there's stuff in RF everyone wants included when they inevitably reroll.

Use Chummer5 from OP to make characters, and allow the Sum-to-10 option; it's better for letting people try things like orc mages and troll anythings.

>>54479218
>>54481911

>Considering the I-Doll is a Shiawase product, I would imagine so, but how do people advertise something that can clearly be used for purposes of erotic roleplay with a child-like entity.
I would see them marketing it as a companion or a domestic, keeping the "special features" in the hidden catalog, or packaging and branding it as a third party mod for middleman distribution. Not the most efficient way to make a buck, but the PR department wouldn't want a mega to tarnish its squeaky clean public image.

>>54476305
>Street Sams
>Honor
The closest they get to honor is to shoot shit in the legs to keep it from getting away while they get close enough to honorably stab it.

>>54476341
I haven't seen it. Looks like a reasonable analog of how shit would go down right after the awakening if you ignore the order in which things pop up.

While it has some degree of verisimilitude, I don't think I can really see it as a Shadowrun movie.

>>54476305
>The one about street sams requiring a code of honor
Actually, it's just "code". "Code of honor" is the derailing in progress.

>>54480405
>* More Harlequins
Stop there. The rest is okay, but I will not allow that at my table.

okay so I'm having a session 0 with some friends today and I need advice on which of the following character concepts sounds the best for a standard game
>Former Halloweener, adept who uses a bow w/ incendiary arrowheads
>Cowboy-wannabe adept, typical trick-shooting pistolero stuff
>street-racing Ancients member, mystic adept
>Changeling (yeah I know) who looks like a living statue, street sam

>>54481616
Be prepared to houserule and use your GM privileges to abstract some details, otherwise you have nearly some 1000 pages of rules and lore to remember.

And also build up your segue skills to help keep the game running as smoothly as possible when you switch between matrix and meatspace.

These few snippets are what I think are most important for a new GM, but >>54481616 is the rightest out of all of us. See the top post for the pastebin link.

>>54481696
Eiger was best girl. Little can improve her, but that's definitely a good start.

>>54482362
>changling

ugh

Barring that one, all three others should be fine. I'd see what the other are goint to play. If there is nobody else who can drive a car, go for the streetracer, else i personally would go for the Cowboy-wannabe.
Bows are sorta meh.

>>54482505
I went bow because bow incendiary ammo is way better than any of the bullet options, holy shit flare ammo is terrible

>>54482362
>>54482505
Remind me what's so bad about changelings, beside special snowflake factor?

>>54471782
You are a hero.

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>>54482583
Don't use incendiary with bows as primary; use explosives for your damage dealers, barbed for silent, hammerhead on soft nonlethals, SnS with static shafts on hard. Incendiary are good for the Ranger Sliver (which you should definitely have) and for firebombing groups with area denial.

I heard rumors of a fan supplement based on weird Wyoming.

Was there one? And if so, does anybody have it?

>>54482583
Okay, if you want to do it for the style, its fine.
Imho just a tad to expensive per shot.

>>54482643
thats already plenty enough.
On top of that the rules suck donkeyballs and its probably still not working properly in chummer, so you'd have to create it by hand.

>>54482951
>>54482672
It's cuz he's a halloweener, and despite their whole 'they used fire-based weapons it's their thing' there's a deficit of any fire-based weapons.
>>54482951
I mean I kinda just want to make a Mutant, a la WH40K style, but I don't want to waste essence points on bioware

Hey, is there a way to buy pdfs of 5th edition cheaper than Drivethrough RPG?
I need the german versions and prefer pdfs, but the pastebin in OP doesn't have all the stuff and the pdfs on drivetrhough are pretty much the same price or more expensive than the hardcovers on Amazon.
Is there a good site where I can buy?

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>>54483105
Explosives are plenty fiery, do better damage at R10, and are about 1/6th the price.

>>54483159
>Is there a good site where I can buy?
Ich glaub Pegasus spiele hat nen eigenen laden auf deren seite

>>54483159
Buchpreisbindung, kennste?
Die deutschen PDF kosten überall gleich viel. Sollten aber trotzdem günstiger als die englischen sein, Google mal nach "Pegasus digital".

>>54483249
Gott was zum unendlichen Fick ist Buchpreisbindung, Chummer?
Deutschland, deine Bürokratie...

>>54483276
So teuer sind die jetzt auch wieder nicht, Alter.
Und finanzielle Unterstützung hat Pegasus sich echt verdient, mit der Qualität die die raus bringen

>>54482951
Gosh do people really have that much of a problem creating their characters by hand?

>>54483462
do you not roll fun characters in bulk and then never ever play with them?

>>54483512
Yes but I usually just do it on a blank A4 or the back of an envelope.

>>54480340
Is that supposed to be a modern-day Geralt?

>>54481594
I mean, at least he's modifying it to fit recent thread topics.

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Can someone give me a brief overview of different character creation systems? Like I know priority from the book, but I've seen people say it sucks. I've seen 8-sum, 10-sum, etc but I don't know what those are. I'm nearly ready to roll my first character, and I know to use Chummer (thanks yekka) but beyond that iono.

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>grab a soda from a vending machine while on a stakeout and watching some azzie businesses for possible bloodmagic shenanigans
>music plays when I open the can and start drinking my "Watermelon Warhead" flavor
>a golden credstick rises up from the carbonation and proclaims me and four friends have a free pass to Sebastian Smocka's Soda Station, where a tour of the greatest soda factory in the sixth world await us
>mfw next session is going to be our crew's beach episode all because I thought in character I'd be thirsty

>>54484349
Read Run Faster. St10 is the priority chart, but giving each selection a number (A=4, B=3, etc.) And you have to make your numbers add up to 10. More flexible than priority, while keeping priority's inherent limits for more simple chargen instead of pointbuying everything with karma

>>54484362
I'm stealing this with no remorse

>>54484362
last session I went to grab a soycaf while on a run which led to us making a security car crash and a mile long trafic jam behind.
Also anyone wants to buy 4 tons of potatos fast ?

>>54461780
How would you stat Inklings as a meta-human variant in 4e and/or in 5e?

>>54485575
squid shapeshifters

>>54484362
Feels like you might be in the news because of this so maybe not the best idea but...
>>54485066
...this

which reminds me, is shadowrun really popular in Germany? I keep coming across German language websites etc when looking for shadowrun info

>>54485708
Yup, pretty popular
Especially given that we have Pegasus spiele producing german SR, not just translating it
If you ever see something about Krautrules, it's because you should always use german rules over the english ones

>>54479945
image saved.

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>>54480965
That Anon is mad because the person who posted the image first saved it in a lower resolution.

>>54480896
>1000x1885

>>54461780
>637x1200

Lads I'm confused
In an opposed test, if I roll an equal number of hits as the opponent am I successful?

Similarly, if I roll equal to a tests threshold am I good?

>>54486037
Ties go to the defender in most cases. One big exception is with shockgloves/shockhands.

If you meet the threshold, you succeed.

>>54486079
cool thx

>>54486079
what about stick n' shock?

>>54485618
>squid shapeshifters

meme reference received but inkling's powers and abilities have more in common with cartoons than actual squids.

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So how bad is the barrens, exactly?

>>54486218
just gotta know how to punch a hoe and you good, ya know

>>54486218
Pretty bad. But just regular bad, mostly not magical stuff.

>>54486182
5E core book is such a mess I can't say for sure. Hope someone else knows.

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>>54486218
The Barrens in any given area are usually in a full-blown gang war every single day, with feral hellhounds instead of stray dogs, grenade launchers instead of machine pistols, ghouls instead of crackheads, and any traffic on the roads is covered in makeshift tank armor. Most of the buildings are urban ruins patched back together with plywood and sheet metal. Most of the roads are gravel made of building-rubble. Ordinary citizens can and will stab each other to death over a can of soybeans.

It's like the worst ganglands the US has ever seen, mixed in with a former-Soviet warzone, and then filtered through the panicked fever dreams of a whitebread wageslave.

It's bad. Really, really bad. The kind of bad where children will shrug at watching a guy hacked limb from limb because they once saw a pack of ghouls eat one of their friends alive. The kind of bad where mothers will drown their children to spare them the cruelty of living there. The kind of bad people intentionally become bunraku dolls because they feel that being a mid-controlled sex slave is better than having to actually experience the world they live in.

It's pretty fragging bad, chummer.

>>54483843
As a noir detective, by the looks of it.

>>54486079
>Ties go to the defender in most cases.
Specifically, because the defender is usually negating hits rather than generating their own - meaning if they knock their foe down to 0 hits, they don't succeed.

>>54486450
What would you do if you woke up one day or somehow stumbled into Shadowrun's Barrens? I'd personally try to tame a hellhound and teach it how to lead a giant pack to wipe out all the competition and make myself the fucking king.

>>54486583
You sound crispy, anon.

>>54477959
Arwyn was a dwarven crossdresser with a love of Lord of the Rings. Arwyn was the team fixit - broken gear, hacker fucked up, stubborn enemy positions - Arwyn can bullshit his way through anything. The dwarven crossdresser and name doesn't mean naything, I just had a hell of a time spouting things trying to sound like a cross between tom waits and liv tyler.

Arwyn was given the fixing problem of a power core, the kind fuelled entirely by uranium and made by Shishi Operational Mechanics, that was fuelling an independent set of defenses. Arwyn solved the problem by a troll-assisted dropkick, dumping it into a nearby waterway because the grunts who had set it up were idiots. Casing cracked, lots of fireworks, hooray! Dwarf-a-pult does real damage to the damn thing!

Three runs later we were being paid to hunt ourselves down for having attempted to set up SOM for a seattle environmental disaster and tried to finger the Sisterhood of Ariadne as going all toxic avenger. They figured out that we were responsible for their run of bad luck, got hold of SOM, asked what the fuck their problem was while tendering evidence that they were innocent, SOM figures out that we were responsible because of the half-arsed bullshitting we'd been tendering as evidence of our work up to that point and the wild inconsistencies. We all moved to Ultima Thule shortly after.

>>54486583
I would start running until I'm back in "just" the shitty side of town, instead of a gang-torn anarchic hellhole. I'm from the hood IRL, and I know when to get the fuck out of anywhere badder than I am.

I want to make sure I understand the Matrix properly...if I roll Matrix Perception (can I do this in AR?), I can see the icons of the various security devices around me, right? The pressure plate that wirelessly communicates with the turret at the end of the hall, the motion sensor's camera, etc? I'm picturing it something like detective mode in the Arkham games

>>54486622

What you're talking about is more like AR.

The actual matrix is a complete virtual world that may or may not have relation to actual physical space.

>>54486618
Not my choice but I respect it.

How does this sound?
>Saeder captured one of the players and prepares to have a mind break mage flown in
>This info gets leaked to the fixer of the party
>Fixer offers the party to take them in his helicopter to the top of the building where the prisoner is held
>Party has rappelling gear and can rappel down the walls or sneak through with decker cover
>Party needs to find and secure prisoner before mage arrives
>The group has critical intel on Ares that Saeder wants, so they could get away without dying
Basically it's supposed to remind of the matrix scene where neo and trinity rescue morpheus.

>>54487395
They're going to try to cut out the middle man and intercept whatever flight the mage is on.

>>54487442
The player is still prisoner in that case.

>>54487395
Unless the building isn't openly owned by SK, it sounds like a good way to lose a helicopter. Megas will have rooftop security armed with AV missiles just for this kind of attack.

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>>54486622
AR is command center look. I like to think of it like the HUD of any given Management game.

In AR and VR you will automatically get a list / visual representation of any device not running silent within 100m of your physical location / the location from which you are accessing the Matrix.

You roll Computer + Intuition [Data Processing]to succesfully "ping" any further away targets and silently running devices / personas. If you succeed, you get them added to your HUD as what they are as well as any additional information your Game Master gives you for hits.

>>54487456
They're still going to go for it - to free up some extra time, if nothing else. Or to force them to move him, and then hit them on transit.

>>54487475
Most megacorporate-owned buildings are absolutely not going to be that secured. They have budgets - everything is a cost-benefit analysis. They're only going to secure the Serious Shit with that.

>>54487495

Except on a Megacorp scale, a rocket is pretty cheap. Especially compared to the cost of replacing security, training, and settling with families.

>>54487475
what>>54487495
said, also the fixer is well enough connected that he can make an official landing happen.
>>54487495
What about a twist on the mage flight? The leaked info is false and instead of landing regularly the mage is gonna parachute in?

>>54487495
You're thinking about actual SAM sites
>>54487475 is talking about Manpads. You know, shoulder-launched cheap homing rockets that were given away to Afghanistani goatfuckers like they were candy?

>>54487541
If the Fixer is that well connected, I hope he can afford another helicopter.

>>54487495
>>54487521
some places sure wouldn't be secured to hell but even news of a MEGACORP branded building being attacked successfully would lose bajillions in stock prices. way more than a rocket. a lot of their security though is probly through reputation for being secured more than actual preparedness. also they'll have some sort of response team ready.

I have a question.
Why would you buy anything other then a Armor Jacket at Character Gen?
High capacity, doesn't look weird since its basically a motorcycle jacket, highest armor except for the Full Body Armor.

>>54487580
Style

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>>54487395
The most obvious issue here is that it's a railroad with only one mentioned variation.

>Saeder captured one of the players and prepares to have a mind break mage flown in
Captured on extraterritorial grounds I assume? Otherwise, the characters could also tip off the local cops to create a diversion at the lobby at least.

>This info gets leaked to the fixer of the party
By whom? If it is a third party, why? Is there maybe more to this building than just a friend, a secondary objective of sorts?

>Fixer offers the party to take them in his helicopter to the top of the building where the prisoner is held
What's in it for the Fixer? Helicopters are expensive, so are fixer lives.

>Party needs to find and secure prisoner before mage arrives
How are you going to deal with this? Timer?

>The group has critical intel on Ares that Saeder wants, so they could get away without dying
Once they've broken in Rainbow Six style, the security personnel of S-K that isn't privy to the fact that this band of arseholes is in posession of some arcane paydata is not to be shot.