MTG MODERN GENERAL [COMPETITIVE FORMAT]

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>>54458670
Second for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

what cards about to be cycled are modern proof?

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>>54458670
Undefeated last FNM, got shit on this week though!

>Round 1 vs. Burn (1-2)
>game one is pretty straight forward. he gold fishes me dead by turn 4
>game two chandra is gas and lets me cast an obstinate baloth
> he skullcracks the life gain but whiffs on a follow up burn spell to finish me and chandra kills his guide so I can swing for lethal
>game 3 have a decent looking 7 and decide not to mull to find leyline. top deck leyline. oops.
>get burned out in the standard fashion

>Round 2 vs. ????? (2-0)
>He starts off with that kamigawa land that gives your opponent spirit tokens
>Figure it's either intruder alarm combo or 5c living end
>Nope
>on my end step he gives me a token
>then casts some kamigawa aura with flash on the token that says when it's dealt damage it's controller loses that much life
>some kind of stuffy doll style deck then?
>bolt the token in response
>he untaps and slams hornet nest
>mfw
>follows up with that hellion that lets you deal any amount of damage to a creature and yourself
>in response to the damage trigger bolt the nest so he only gets 3 tokens
>consider how lucky I am to have drawn two bolts
>top deck scapeshift kill him
>game 2 goes mostly the same, except he can't get nearly as much action going due to his deck being a little inconsistent

>Round 3 vs. GW D&T
>don't know what he's playing at first, but GQ/Tec edge + crucible of snek do a fine job of fucking up my lands and keep me from going off. die from weenie beats
>Game 2 is basically the same, except this time around I get to see leonin arbiter, and a thalia. I got super close to getting a lethal scapeshift at the end but he coco's into a hierarch + selfless spirit, and the flying + exalted was all he needed to kill me

>Round 4 vs. Eldrazi tron
>Game 1 is a great hand, goldfish the turn 4 kill
>Game 2 he starts off with double thought knots to fuck up my hand and I draw nothing but ramp, then die
>Game 3 he only has one thought knot but double smasher is 2gud

Hey
If I have a 2/2 creature with Bravour on the battlefield and than cast an Instant that deals 2 dmg to each creature would my guy survive ?
In other words what does resolve first, the Bravour abbility or the effect of the spell ?

>>54459416
The Barvour resolves first

>>54459416
I'm assuming thats foreigner-speak for Prowess, in which case yes, the +1/+1 trigger applies first. There was a dude around here playing Reckoner Skred with Swiftspears and Pyroclasms (and a Insult/Injury), was pretty memepunk.

The opponent can respond to a Prowess trigger though, such as Bolt before the creature gets out of Bolt range

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Xth for Eggs being the most (read: MOST) fun you can actually physically have

>>54458726
>tfw my vintage shops deck got beaten by one of these

>Just finished my burn deck and played my first FNM
>Opponent is playing GDS like everyone else at the venue
>Opponent Fetches/Shocks/Thoughtseizes
>Sees two Goblin Guides, 2 Bolts, and a Riftbolt in my hand
>Immediately scoops and takes a round loss

>>54459558
>not running both ballista and triskelions
I bet your lodestones were nothing compared to the might of the kithkin meme

>>54459442
>>54459464
Thanks for the help. Yes Bravour is Prowess in german, forgott to translate sry.

>>54459566
Burnbros are the saviors of this format. Interactive games with a very clear and interactable gameplan, and it fights the good fight against shadowfags

>>54459606

For my first time playing I did pretty well, beat GDS obviously, lost to Scapeshift and some meme Polymorph into Emrakul deck, 1-2 with 4 games won is fine with me

how's normal green ramp tron doing at the moment? seems like GDS and Etron would have the edge with all the hand attack

>>54459566
sounds like your FMN is full of retards, GDS is favored games 2 and 3 against burn if you play correctly

>>54458670
Is Modern worth getting into now or should I wait and see whether DS gets banned first?

How important is cavern of souls and horizon canopy for elves?

>>54460065
They're not important.

It's safe to say they're the last pieces of the deck you need to buy.

>burn
>chalice
>building revolt zoo rn
>running two deflecting palms since a lot of my meta is shadow and eldrazi variants

>>54459652
Tron is still in a great spot. No idea what green ramp tron is sounds like a oxymoron.
>>54460291
sick. always wanted to try elves maybe upgrade it to combo elves eventually.

>infect
>telepathy
>elves
>running as much +4/+4 spells as legally possible with minimal evasion and the weirdest thing is that it works

>>54458670
i want to play moon+bridge prison buuut chandra and chalice spikes say otherwise
i just had the pleasure of slamming a turn 1 trinisphere and turn 3 rabblemaster while my goblins opponent stared at their one land

>>54460527
>No idea what green ramp tron i
maybe they're referring to 2016 Gx tron?

>>54459416
Swiftspear does not die to pyroclasm if that's the question.

>>54459765
I hear that from the players themselves, but I've never seen a bro lose to them while playing conservatively.

Eldrazi Temple should have been banned. Eye of Ugin wouldnt have allowed the deck to even be good.

Just ban Eldrazi Temple and Mox Opal
Make a stance on no fast mana, and no SSG doesnt count because its just a one time burst that costs a card. Opal is just another land and functionally can be a Lotus Petal if you have multiples. Eldrazi Temple is a no downsides Ancient Tomb for an extremely pushed Tribe.

>>54458670
I want to be the fun police.

How does Bloodghast+Prized Amalgam+Smallpox+Liliana of the Veil feel to anyone else?

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Is he actually good?


>>54461298
I'd probably concede right there

>>54459558
>T1 workshops/crucible
>T2 strip mine
It wasn't that hard

>>54461355
Can you think of some kind of permanent that lets me sac creatures to make you sac creatures?

>>54461355
Hes really good but the deck hes good in right now is shoved out of the format by gay shit like Eldrazi and Death Shadows

>>54461298
Only if you have crucible/loam

>>54461388
Grave Pact

>>54461396
>Gay shit
Go to standard midrange safeshitfest, nobody wants fair players here

>>54461406
no no, I need to be able to do it on command so I can break up their creature combo pieces

>>54461399
I don't think I have enough room if I also want to run Negates so I can't just get rofl combo'd

>>54461396

I'm considering putting one instead of a thragtusk in my titanshift sideboard, but who knows

>>54461388
The only thing that comes to mind that actually lets you sacrifice and force the opponent to do it in a single card is voldaren pariah but grave pact with any sac outlet does it

>>54459777
Deaths shadow isnt a problem. Dont play a fragile deck

My friend seems to believe based on what he's seen on mtg goldfish or something that infect has gone the way of the dodo and wants to know why. I don't play modern (my area is almost all standard or legacy for some reasons) so he asked me to post here to find out why the deck is apperently dead.

>>54461450

git probe is dead, which was the main piece that allowed an infect deck to see if it could go all-in in one attack

everybody packs some form of graveyard hate, which shits on become inmense and there are now ways to deal with protected single attackers like blessed alliance

>>54461450
It used to be an all-in deck that had git probe to see if it was safe to go for the win. Probe got banned. Also deaths shadow udually pack around 8 discard spells and a ton of removal that doesent care about p/t

>>54461425
I might just honestly run Bone Splinters

>>54461498
>>54461488
Thanks, as a completely unrelated follow up. I was thinking of building a jeskai delver deck just because ir uses some cards I already own (swiftspear and monastery mentor) I can't really grab the snapcasters for it right now tho. I'm not stupid enough to think there is a card that can act as a real budget replacement, but is there anything decent I can throw in to fill the slot. As I said before there isn't really a modern scene here so it's mostly to play with casually. (Or suggest me anouther deck that uses those cards)

>>54461703

Use think twice. There's not really a good alternative though

>>54461703
>Gonna play casually
>Not using chink fakes
what?

Are there any good mutual discard spells other than Liliana of the Veil?

>>54462598
delirium skeins

>>54462608
You missed the word "good".

>>54461703
You could try a torrential gearhulk and use saheeli to spam its Enter the battlefeild ability

>>54462598
Smallpox

>>54463775
Already have 4

>tfw permabanned from SCG twitch chat for typing """emma"""

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>>54464217
>tfw banned from wizards twitch chat for calling one person a fat ugly fuck

>>54458822
Which sets are going? BfZ and SoI?

Deck rate Please?

5x Plains
5x Swamps
5x Forests
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Sandstone Bridge
1x Fetid Pools
1x Irrigated Farmlands
1x Forsaken Sanctuary
1x Bruna, the Fading Light
1x Giesla, the Broken Blade
1x Thalia, Heretic Cathar
1x Yaheeni, Undying Partisan
1x Angel of Condemnation
1x Aven Wind Guide
2x Sanitarium Skeleton
1x Scute Mob
1x Aegis Angel
1x Aetherstorm Roc
1x Aether Herder
1x Lord of the Accursed
1x Xarthrid Gorgon
1x Visier of the Menagerie
1x Desolation Twin
1x Thicket Elemental
1x Sanctifier of Souls
1x Eternal Scourge
1x Wayward Servant
1x Graf Rats
1x Midnight Scavengers
3x Anointed Procession
2x Campaign of Vengeance
1x Call for Unity
1x Divine Favor
1x Haze of Pollen
1x Sudden Spoiling
1x Erase
1x Harvest Season
1x Ironwright's Cleansing
1x Behold the Beyond
1x Dispossess
1x Throne of the God-Pharaoh
1x Oracle's Vault
1x Fabrication Module
1x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1x Liliana, the Last Hope

>>54464762
Seems fine, if you reduce your swamp, plains, and forest to 1 each and then play a bunch of other singleton lands, you can play Reno Jackson to give you +30 life.

>scg website says the modern side event is at 2:00
>show up at 1:30 to register
>those faggots got the standard and modern event times swapped on their website
How am I the only person to have been affected by this?

>>54464853
Cuz ur gay xD

>>54464762
This probably isn't going to get anywhere in modern. If you're new to MTG, you should probably convert this to standard and start there.

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Tezzeret report in, not sure if i want to have Chalices maindeck or 1-drops like Serum, Thoughtseize and Push. I can't have all 3 because I need Tezz AoB to hit reasonably consistently but I could find room for a few Serum Visions to smooth out my draws.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/13-02-17-modern-tezz/

>>54464762
You broke the format desu

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2x Copter in Merfolk, why or why not?

>>54465896
Easy, not a merfolk

anyone here playing vizier knightfall? what do you think of the deaths shadow and affinity matchups?
just picked the deck up a week or so ago

>>54465842
How so?

>>54465896
Chameleon Colossus in UG Merfolk as tech against Death's Shadow ;^)

>>54465896
Played against someone running them in merfolk. They're pretty good.

>>54465918
I'm playing devoted company, which is pretty similar, and affinity is a fairly easy match up, especially post-board. DS is a bit annoying due to discard and removal, but Ewit and CoCo help a lot.

So long as your deck contains a certain core of cards, you can get away with a LOT of shit in Modern honestly. If you're playing black and your deck has Thoughtseize/Inquisition, you'll automatically do much better. BW Midrange isn't even considered a deck but a guy at my LGS is taking it to a GP and can hang and bang with good decks.

>>54465988
ive found assembling the combo isnt difficult but getting a wincon out by the time ive been raped by discard is the problem

>>54465948
trolling desu

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>>54465952
I know you're joking, but hey, it's been confirmed there are G and UG Mefolk in Ixalan. I don't think the leaks have shown any that that are good enough for Modern, but there's still a chance UG Merfolk may be a thing in modern at some point. If UG Merfolk does become a thing, it may be interesting to see if it could incorporate CoCo.

>>54465988
In Devoted Company, what do you side vs Tron?

>>54466623
Not a CoCo player, but CoCo-ing in Fulminators is a good game plan off of dorks.

>>54466965
BB seems like it might be somewhat unreliable in Abzan company though, the black is really just a splash.

>>54466623
How about Dusk//Dawn?

New guy here, where is the best place to check for card prices?

>>54467223
tcgplayer mid is the standard most people use.

>>54464464
I'm perma banned on scg for saying a fat fuck only played type 2, like his diabetes.

For the past month I've been playing gifts storm to pretty good success and I expect people to start considering it in deck choice and boarding decisions. So I cribbed the burn list that top8'd Cincinnati and will be running that next week.

Any burnbros able to explain how to properly sideboard?

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>>54467287

>>54467843
Honestly the only slots your really need in the sideboard are for Destructive Revs and Skullcracks. Paths, graveyard hate, Dpalms, are all nice but basically Revs are great.

>>54459509
A one of walking ballista is your only wincon?

>>54464762
Horrendous. What are you even trying to accomplish?

>>54468367
Yessir! Isn't Eggs beautiful?

in some classic versions a single Spellbomb/Codex Shredder was the wincon.

I got out of the game a while back but im starting up some fnm games at the lgs, I only kept one modern burn deck as I also have the cards to make it a legacy burn deck, question is;
>mono red
>naya
>boros
Whats is the best setup to run in the current meta?

>>54461425
Titanshift player here just play baloth over huntmaster or tusk. Your welcome

>>54468115
The green splash solely for destructive revelry seems odd to me. You're already in red/white, is there a good reason to run that over wear//tear?

Also I was asking for more "what non-obvious cards come in against what matches"

>>54469086
RW offers Boros Charm (4 damage for 2 mana) and lightning helix (6 life swing for 2 mana) as well has several good hate cards (stony silence, Rest In Peace, path to Exile, deflecting palm) in the board. Naya does give you access to atarka's command, wild nacatl and destructive revelry in the board, but I kind of find it almost winmore.

>>54469306
Wear/tear is good but does no damage.
For white only, battlepriest of thune (1W 2/2 etb kill enchant) and smash to smithereens are good.

>>54469086
Right now it's RW with a small g splash for sideboard options. However, people are starting to go back to pure RW.

>>54469306
The G splash also opens up a few more sideboard options. Ancient Grudge and Atarka's Command being notable off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others, too. And Destructive Revelry deals damage where Wear//Tear does not. But, they're fairly comparable to each other as far as overall gameplay is concerned. Revelry requires you play your stomping ground, netting you less life for more versatility and damage. Wear//Tear damages you less, because you should have already shocked with Sacred Foundry, is equally versatily, but doesn't deal damage.

>>54469442
Fair enough. Ironic that the second most worrisome enchantment we would want to kill, we actually can't.

Also
>tfw you win a close match by chalice checking your opponent and farming the salt that forms after he scoops up his cards.

>go to first pptq without any practice and without attending events since 2016
>top 4 it

Am I pro yet?

>>54470070
How helmet a deck did you play, and how many people?

>>54470101
Burn and 56 players
events don't really get too big in the city

>>54470184
List, but probably still helmetscrub/10

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>>54470101
>>54470294
>how helmet a deck
>helmetscrub

I can't be the only one confused by what you're trying to say here. Seriosuly, what the fuck do you mean?

>>54470363
No, I'm confused too, but if it means what I'm assuming it means, it's pretty funny.

>>54470363
You remember in school there was the literal retard class? The ones that had to be escorted everywhere ever day because they'd literally forget to breathe and suffocate if not reminded?

You remember how they wore these giant blocky helmets whenever they weren't in the retard room so they wouldn't kill themselves when they fall into a locker because they can't tell when to turn?

A helmet deck is one that even those people could play and win with.

>>54470497
Stop trying to force autistic lingo that only you can comprehend. That's some real Chris-chan type shit

>>54470553
Blame /dng/ for that one.

>>54470497
No, actually, I don't remember those people, because I was home schooled, but I get the point. So, which decks qualify as, "Helmet Decks"? Because, the way I see it, every deck in existence can be trivialized to meet the qualifications, to the point of meaninglessness.
>slam 7 burn spells
>get 3 different lands, play Karn
>almost kill yourself, windmill slam Death's Shadow

It's a pretty meaningless insult.

>>54470294
>thinking any deck in modern is no skill
Found the real scrub

>>54470294
List was basically this https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/702340#paper

with
-1 arid mesa
-1 bloodstained mire
+1 Stomping ground
+1 Sacred foundry

Don't have time to practice or go to events with my job

Is there a decent G/W beatdown deck that coul of work in current meta?

Thinking of using some leftover cards that I never used like Scavenging Oozes, Fleecemane lions with Renegade Ralliers and stuff.

>>54470497
So you mean a modern deck?

>>54470595
Here's an easy tier list to remember
Decks that take skill
Decks I play

Decks that are for retards
Decks I lose against

Anyone else constantly sleeve up and buy cards for casual decks but have no one to play with that can play anything more thoughtful than mono green stompy:(

>>54461258
Opal is literally fine and requires a very significant deck building restraint and even in the decks it slots into it isn't always active t1. It's not doing anything remotely problematic either.

>>54471491
Opal isn't the issue in affinity in my terrible opinion.

It's Inkmoth Nexus being able to keep +1/+1 counters when it's not a creature

>>54471784
There is no issue in affinity at all and the fact that people think there is one is very laughable.

>>54461258
The fact you think affinity needs a ban right now is hilarious.

>>54461258
Why Opal and not Bauble?

Reminder that I'm going to win GP Birmingham with Ponza.

>>54473474
Give us your name so we can root for you :^)

>>54473474
I'll fly to birmingham and give you head if you actually do

>>54473535
Anon McAnonson :^)

What type of deck is better a white angel deck or black demon deck .

>>54473668
Black has better tools in the form of targeted discard. Both have pretty good removal (Fatal Push, Path to Exile). I'd run both in a B/W Midrange package. Thoughtsieze, Inquisition of Kozilek, Fatal Push, Path to Exile, Lingering Souls, 22-24 lands and 4 CMC or 5 CMC flying beaters of choice.

>>54473738
Thank you I will work on that now

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>>54458670
What wacky reanimation target should I include in my shitbrew?

>>54471442
>love MtG
>want to play with friends
>all my MtG friends moved away
>only normie friends left
>have 5 edh decks, two shitty cubes, a shitty modern, and a shitty legacy deck ready to play
>played one FNM and it was awful

I would kill to play games like in college again. Nothing against my FLGS, but going alone just isn't fun for me. Couldn't really connect with the people there. I miss kitchen table Magic with best friends.

>>54473832
Have you considered the possibility that you might be autistic?

>>54473863
Yes, I think I have something. Probably good I barely play anymore.

What color do people with autism play?

>>54473946
blue

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>>54473967
Thanks Anon, I needed that.

>>54473668
>MTG MODERN GENERAL [COMPETITIVE FORMAT]

>>54473668
This is not the kitchen table general.

>>54464504
BFZ, OGW, SOI and EMN. Which sucks, because now we'll never see what standard looks like with SOI/EMN but without BFZ /OGW.

>>54459558
It's not thaaaat surprising, vintage decks are heavily tuned to interact with artifacts and spells. Creature decks don't really exist in vintage so nobody has enough removal.

>>54461169
That's the point. They wanted the deck to still exist, just less be less explosive. Where it is now is pretty healthy.

>>54473829
Does the T1 on the draw:
-exile ssg
-crack the earth
Then play out how you would otherwise, feel good?

>>54474326
>Creature decks don't really exist in vintage
You kidding? Eldrazi and Taxes is one as well as every creature-centric combo, Pyromancer, and Mentor builds.

Consider Emrakul instead of 1 of the hangarback walkers.

>>54474386
I've gotten this nut draw before
>ornithopter
>memnite
>mox opal
>mountain
>junk titan
>crack the earth
>slag fiend

>>54474457
meant to put kuldotha rebirth/opal not slag fiend/mountain oops

>>54460462
I think deflecting palm main is really underrated and can just sneak games based on local meta

I have two hardcore grishoalbrand players versus two hardcore burn players in my lgs all the time and those matches are fucking nuts

>>54465896
The "why" is easy. It loots away shit you don't need.

The "why not" is also easy. It's not a Merfolk, and it gets fucking blasted by things like K command.

On the other hand, it sticks around against sweepers if they're not instant speed.

>>54474451
Were Emrakul in there I would swap the Ballista out over the Hangarbacks, 8cmc Hangarbacks triggering Sanctum, and 0cmc mana-netting Trawler food are more important than the utility Ballista provides.
The list it is based around went 2 Hangarback 1 Emrakul, but I prefer the castability of Ballista in non-wincon scenarios over the safety net that a 15cmc wincon provides (instead of ~40cmc)

With Emrakul you need only count to 15, but Ballista being a 2cmc play is neat. "Going off" with Emrakul always feels anticlimactic, like you're scraping by (which Emmy does help with in situations where you'll whiff), whereas casting Ballista for infinite is feelgoods.

>>54474725
How useful is ballista over banefire though. I can see shooting down little things, but nothing feels better than banefire for a million right to the dome.

>>54474793
mostly for flavor, though it can be fetched with fair/sanctum or even trigger sanctum in a pinch

>>54474793
You can't tutor banefire with Ancient Stirrings, if you have the wellspring loop any wincon that's uncounterable is fine but that's the downside

It's good to have 2 or more wincons because of cards like Slaughter games or targeted discard surgical.

// 61 Maindeck

// 2 Artifact
//

// 61 Maindeck
// 2 Artifact
1 Vedalken Shackles
1 Engineered Explosives

// 13 Creature
4 Vendilion Clique
2 Mistbind Clique
4 Spellstutter Sprite
2 Delver of Secrets
1 Thing in the Ice

// 1 Enchantment
1 Threads of Disloyalty

// 20 Instant
4 Mana Leak
4 Remand
4 Spell Snare
4 Cryptic Command
1 Trickbind
1 Repeal
1 Hieroglyphic Illumination
1 Spell Pierce

// 24 Land
4 Mutavault
3 Faerie Conclave
16 Island
1 Pendelhaven

// 1 Sorcery
1 Ancestral Vision


// 15 Sideboard
// 2 Artifact
SB: 2 Vedalken Shackles

// 3 Creature
SB: 1 Thing in the Ice
SB: 2 Delver of Secrets

// 1 Enchantment
SB: 1 Threads of Disloyalty

// 9 Instant
SB: 1 Remove Soul
SB: 1 Essence Scatter
SB: 1 Dispel
SB: 4 Ceremonious Rejection
SB: 1 Echoing Truth
SB: 1 Spell Pierce


Comments please. Any good life gain cards or removal I could play?

>>54475712
>// 61
stopped reading there.

>>54462598
Death cloud, necrogen mists, cunning lethemancer

Honestly though, there are already established lockout decks in modern. There's 8rack, which aims to get both players with no cards in hand and no creatures on board, then slowly kill them with shrieking affliction or the rack. Cool combo is dakmor salvage and raven's crime.

The other one is lantern control, which uses lantern of insight and mill effects like codex shredder and ghoulcaller's bell to prevent the opponent from drawing anything useful.

>>54475730
new math shows that if you play 61 cards you get mana screwed 5% less. I will try to find you the link

>>54474457
Junk titan isn't a card..?

>>54475866
>new math
Lmao, it is objectively incorrect

https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/frank-analysis-is-playing-more-than-60-cards-always-a-bad-idea/

>>54475866
>if you play 61 cards you get mana screwed 5% less
yeah, it's called adding a land to your deck. Why not go 65 cards, with 5 extra lands you'll never get screwed! Why not just play 10,000 lands and 1 emrakul?

>>54476029
The point is that you can get different ratios with 61. 24:61 and 25:61 are different to 24:60 and, 25:60, however marginally. It's definitely not 5%.

Yo I don't play modern but I want Mox Opals for my EDH decks. What do you guys think is the chance that it gets banned in modern? I want the price to drop before I pick up a couple.

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>>54475866
>not playing a 260 card deck

>>54476648
75 percent chance Opal, Death Shadow, and Tron lands get banned before the Modern Pro tour. WOTC loves to "shake" things up.

>>54476748
B-b-b-but they said no shake up bans

>>54476648
Not likely

>>54475712
UB Fae is just better I think. I like the Pendelhaven though.

>>54476816
From the same people that brought you, "Mythic rarity won't be used for tournament level cards we promise."

>>54477027
Mox Opal should've been reprinted as a common in one of the Masters sets. It would've been funny.

>>54477027
>I hear you loud and clear re: "shake-up bannings" in advance of the Modern PT. No plans for that. We plan to manage the format as we do now.
Then the real question is what did they mean by this?

>>54477237
It means they will do the bannings but won't admit it was too shake up the format.

>>54477237
it means they're going to ban shadow, because it's the top deck. Says it right there 'manage the format as we do now'

>>54477329
and ban vizier of remedies because it allows for a turn 3 win witch is evil and not fun for anyone.

>>54470553
You must be autistic if you didnt get that joke right away.

>>54471857
I play affinity and i admit it is the most cancer deck in the format.
Cranial Plating. +1/+1 counter abuse, mox, and Inkmoth are just way too good against most decks.

just got destroyed at a tournament. x-3-1

does abzan suck or is it me? how do i git gud

>>54478346
Are you getting blown out 0-2 or are you at least winning a single game out of the 3 played? What kind of match-ups did you play?

>>54478346
didn't get blown out but the losses felt bad

only won vs living end and 4c shadow in 2 games

drew with delver (it's still a deck?, guy plays slow af)

lost in 3 games to eldrazi tron

lost in 2 games to merfolk and abzan shadow

How do i win against affinity as naya burn? And how do i deal with kitchen finks in abzan coco?

>>54478357
>>54478392


misclicked

i swear bob hates me btw. he cost me the game by making me lose around 30 life for all the 6 games i played

>>54478406
timely skullcrack/command vs finks. coco is an abysmal matchup for you either way. only slightly better post board even with relic.

affinity is race. either you nut first or he does, if you bother to interact you'll lose a lot of burn that could go to his face. it just so happens affinity happens to nut more often than you do. you should be favored postboard

>>54478412
Post list
I never played the deck but fir me grim flayer took bob's place in abzan

>>54461837
I hear chinafakes have become very widely used, even in tourney play.

>>54478429
i run both

4 x Confidant
4 x Goyf
3 x Grim Flayer
2 x Scooze
1 x Siege Rhino

3 x LOTV
1 x Sorin, Solemn Visitor

4 x Lingering Souls
3 x Path
3 x INquisition
3 x Thotseize
2 x Push
2 x Abrupt Decay
1 x Maelstrom Pulse

1 x Nihil Spellbomb

4 x Verdant
2 x Marsh Flats
2 x Windswept Heath
3 x Shambling Vent
2 x OG Tomb
1 x Godless Shrine
1 x Temple Garden
2 x Swamp
1 x Forest
1 x Plains
1 x Ghost Quarter

SB:

1 x Grafdigger's Cage
1 x Explosives
3 x Fulminator Mage
2 x Surgical Extraction
2 x Collective Brutality
1 x Damnation
2 x Flaying Tendrils
1 x Liliana, the Last Hope
2 x Stony Silence

lay it on me desu, i just want to learn how to play this goddamned deck

fukkin bob did around 9 damage to me vs merfolk btw. granted he gave me board wipes but i got cucked by spreading seas

>>54478500
>fukkin bob did around 9 damage to me
Well when you only run 19 lands and 11 one drops he's bound to hurt you.

>>54478705
wait what i forgot the 3 blooming marsh

>>54478088
No not rly, we almost always win game 1 but game 2/3 we are not as favored against a lot of matchups.

>tfw go 1-5 at a tournament with my abzan brew
>tfw all the losses were 2-1 except the one game where I couldn't draw my 23 lands correctly
>no real blow outs, just one loss after another
That felt real bad.

>>54478500
Your problem is that Grixis Death's Shadow just does your shit better. Bigger creatures, the same or better value spells. You know that Jund is considered a tier 3 deck right now, right? The same Jund decks that were pounding everyone's asses a year back are nothing now because of GDS. Abzan isn't bad per say, it's just as good as Jund really. But GDS is making your deck look like shit.

>>54479655
damn should i sell into grixis shadow then?

>>54479655
and 1 of the other 3 abzan midranger players went top 8. it's a skill thing then i suppose

OFFICIAL MODERN POWER RANKINGS

>Top tier
Black

>Good tier
Blue

>Mid tier
Green

>Low tier
Red

>Shit tier
White

>>54478478
where do people even get their china fakes?

>>54480584
they google china fakes and then purchase them from amazon or ebay or alibaba probably.

>>54480529
White has path to exile, so its instantly stronger than green or red.

>>54478478
Widely is a stretch. I'd doubt more than 5% of the room at a gp is using fakes. That percentage would drop even more during a pro tour.

>>54458670
Newfag with set question again
What are some of the other celebrated sets/blocks that released besides ravnica?

>>54482381
Original Innistrad. Lorwyn. Arguably Alara. Some people like original Zendikar but Zendikar was always shit.

>>54482458
the lands looked nice in zendikar though. i have a few of the BfZ fullarts

>>54474228
Still a firm believer that If KLD rotated out instead SoI Standard would be much more interesting.

SOI/EMN are the only set I Enjoyed in current Standard

>>54480584
Look up Villa Zheng then the yellow man has an email and links on the descriptions of his videos and he'll set you up

>>54482381
Besides what the other Anon said RtR, Mirrodin, New Phyrexia Block and Alpha, Beta, Revised :^)

>look up Burn list
>burn runs 11 fucking fetch lands

ok this is a meme format

>>54482729
>burn wouldn't want to thin their deck so they draw fewer lands and more burn
no anon you are the meme

>>54482744

>paying life to thin your deck to find fucking Shock lands that hurt you
>fetches and shocks for colors outside of red and white

>>54482744
It's not about the thinning, it's about needing multiple colours and not giving the slightest fuck about your own life total.

>>54482773
your life total literally does not matter if you are playing burn. you can crack them on your opponents end step, lose the 1 life, and then not pay the 2 life and then upkeep waow its untapped! going to 19 or 18 or w/e because you cracked a fetch does not matter at all.

drawing a bolt instead of a land does matter a lot of the time. imagine you win the game if you draw bolt and you lose if you don't. having fewer lands in your deck objectively increase the chance you draw bolt, and not having fetches means more times you lose the game because you drew a land instead of a bolt.

>>54482826
also in case it isn't clear here, bolt doesn't have to literally be bolt for this example to still be true. and as >>54482821 said there's also the value of the multiple colors, depending on your flavor of burn.

>>54482744
Is this ironic?

>>54479502
>Affinityfag defends Affinity
Shocker

>>54482773
>>54482744
No you dumbfucks, you run 12 fetches because you always need Searing Blaze to be online

>>54478500
I think most old school GBx lists run 23-24 lands. 20 is definitely too few. I'm not sure what to cut though, other than the spellbomb.

>>54482826
Deck thinning literally doesn't matter until turn 7, and if you hit turn 7 playing Burn, then you've lost. Burn runs 10-12 fetches because they NEED to hit their colors and they NEED to keep Searing Blaze online (or else it becomes the worst top Deck imaginable.)

So whats the actual meta? I keep hearing conflicting opinions on it. For a while everyone said Deaths Shadow was extremely good, but now its not really putting up results. Went to two PPTQs and not a single Shadow deck in either top 8, not even close either most Shadow decks were out early. All the people who own the deck too have told me its shit and they really dont want to be playing it. So what is the actual meta and why does Shadow see so much play if its not good?

>>54473946
Any of them.
Anyone who doesn't just play colorless literally has the downs.

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>>54481676
red has bolt tho...

>>54478088
And then you get dumpstered on game 2 provided you aren't playing against a retard that doesn't sideboard. It all balances out and the deck is kept in check via sideboard similar to dredge.

Do you guys ever get stressed out about what deck to bring to gameday tourneys? I've been on a losing streak, I've tried shaking up my decks but now I find myself too stressed out to pick one of the builds and take it to my LCS.

>>54485020
I'm always frantically brewing last minute before I shower and walk down to the shop; sometimes I leave early if there's a single I need to pick up or something. I feel stressed but as soon as I start playing the stress goes away and I'm trying to win (and trying to analyze my deck, see what feels weak and what feels strong). recently I 4-0'd a modern night at my LGS with a homebrew, but for like 2 months straight before that I was getting owned or having middling results (I went literally 3 weeks going 1-3, then another three going 2-2, as I recall).

if you play netdecks then no need to stress, just pick one and go - you should know its strengths, weaknesses, and good/bad MUs. they're known commodities, and you can research them. why stress when you know what to expect? if you don't know how to pilot them, you just need more experience and maybe to watch someone streaming with the deck; no need to stress about those sorts of things.

if you're brewing or tuning up a netdeck for your local meta, then channel the stress into something positive. you're gonna show up, and sure maybe the guy with affinity or tron is gonna smoke you, but that's not a 100% loss for you? why did they smoke you? what card did you wish you had? what draws disappointed you every time? what card almost turned the tide? you can turn the stress and negativity of getting rolled into a new sort of game for yourself, one which will in turn get you victories in the future.

>>54485305

Thanks, man, I needed to hear that. Last week I got so stressed out I didn't even go. I was starting to feel like that this week too.

>>54484604
>bolt
>in the death shadow meta
kek

>>54486098
>death's shadow takes themselves down to 3 life
>bolt
Pssh, nice game, kid.

>>54486306
That's exactly how I beat GDS last week.
Guy got so fucking salty because his dumbass misplayed bad.

Has anyone tried an Esper Death's Shadow list?

Bloodghast+Prized Amalgam+Worship+Deaths Shadow seems cheeky and fun

>>54486785
>Has anyone tried an Esper Death's Shadow list?
I've played against it before

>Bloodghast+Prized Amalgam+Worship+Deaths Shadow seems cheeky and fun
But not like this

The white cards you want are Path to Exile and Lingering Souls

>>54486956
And Ranger is Eos. People do still play that occasionally in DS lists, right?

>>54486956
But I want to be cheeky and be immortal with man lands

>>54480584
Villa Zheng and Black Lotus on Alibaba or that other similarly named site

>>54486306
>playing against bad death shadow players
>bolt must be better
kek

>>54487602
Can't forget all those good DS players that got top 8 at Vegas.

Oh wait...

Cunt

>>54487815
Punt

>>54487859
Runt

>>54488040
Bunt

Jund

>mfw someone piloting this list took 13th place
>http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=115095

>>54460462
>>54474518
Deflecting Palm is absolutely one of the most underrated cards in modern. You see a decent amount of it in sideboard, but I really think that most if not all RW and RW+ burn decks would do good with two in their main boards, maybe more. I run three in the mainboard of my Boros deck, and it's literally never worse than lightning helix. Often, if I'm patient, it's much better.

Like, just think about it. Lightning helix gains you 3 life and bolts. Deflecting Palm prevents any amount of damage, usually more than three, and deals that much to the face. Sure, it can't hit creatures, but how often do burn decks want to be hitting anything other than their opponents directly?

Sorry for the rant, I just wish this card got a bit more respect.

>>54461688
I'll chime in:
If you're looking for a sac outlet then Bone Splinters becomes very efficient. It won't make or break anything, but it's cheap and useable.

>>54464762
I can't imagine a good deck having this many one-of's. I'm not going to go over every card but I imagine that whatever you could be going for would be easier and better if you narrowed down the list and kept only the best stuff after play testing. You're not playing singleton. And if you really do need all these different cards for it to work then it simply can't be good.

>>54487568
Aliexpress

>>54469086
I find RWg the best way to go. Atarka's command is just too good to not run. Nacatl is pretty trash the meta right now tho

>>54476648
Very unlikely. However, I'd still wait a little while because the price will go down if they see a reprint in Iconic Masters.

>>54482381
Innistrad is the set named more than any other when you ask people what the best set ever was.

>>54484114
Meta:

Affinity is real good
Tron's pretty good too
Burn's a'ight

lots of stuff is playable actually. Shadow had its fifteen minutes of fame but I never expected it to stay ahead of affinity in popularity.

>>54482381
Innistrad, Time Spiral

>>54485521
Not that anon;

try not to get that way. sure magic is expensive but we play it for fun.

>>54489104
Not the worst elf list I've seen. Not fan of Westvale to be honest, and not running chord is a mistake.
I play an elf list with 10 lords on Xmage and regularly make people concede on turn 3 after I CoCo for the second time

Infect still worth playing?
>>54484114
People say how amazing it is, but while it seems okay, it feels too "fair", you know what I mean?

Been playing against some shitters online in x-mage that keep using competitive decks to no end and got to this. It seems to be doing fairly well, exception of burn of grave hate but that doesn't seem to be that much of a factor from my experience.

2x Chancellor of the Spires
2x Clever Impersonator
2x Cloudshift
2x Contingency Plan
4x Detention Sphere
2x Echoing Truth
2x Flickerwisp
1x Geist of Saint Traft
2x Ghost Quarter
2x Ghostly Flicker
2x Halimar Depths
1x Iona, Shield of Emeria
7x Island
2x Lotus Bloom
2x Mana Leak
6x Plains
4x Prairie Stream
3x Reflector Mage
3x Remand
3x Serum Visions
3x Sun Titan
3x Æthermage's Touch

Overall it's looking pretty solid, never taken this to a Modern tournament yet but I play this deck casually with moderate success to most of the stuff thrown at it.

Anyone idea's for sideboard?

>>54490665
It's not nearly as consistent as it used to be but the deck is still strong enough to eek off wins.

>>54483988
no bro i forgot to pen in blooming marsh

>>54489730
Palm Emrakul to kill it's controller. Palm does not target so protection does not apply. I also want to use it in the main deck. I guess I just need to look for replacements.

>>54489030
>not Bant

See me after work, we need to talk.

>>54476586
i can't find the article but the math did show a chance of getting manascrewed went down 5% with that config

>>54490686
burn is everywhere
also have fun with combo decks

Which decks pushed out Bogle and Soul Sisters? Is Bogles really that slow and fragile?

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So this is now Modern legal, I completely overlooked it. No more Taigam's Scheming (unless you're into that sort of stuff), and bless Wizards for slowly adding cards into the format that should have been made legal since the begining

>>54492110
Liliana of the Veil and Thoughtseize/IoK make Bogles unviable.
Soul Sisters has always been trash

>>54492110
Bogles is a shit deck that's only passable when the meta is nothing but UWR midrange. It's also boring to play, so it doesn't have a lot of hardcore fans to support it.

As far as I know Soul Sisters gets shit on by Eldrazi Tron and Death's Shadow, which makes it a poor choice in this meta.

>>54492110
Soul Sisters would have to have been in the meta at some point for it to be pushed out. Why people play Soul Sisters instead of the white weenie strategies that aren't garbage makes no sense to me unless Soul Warden is their waifu.

>>54461424
Phyrexian plaguelord? Its not quite 1 for 1 but it kills viscera seer

>>54475712
Go down one clique to 3 and bring your deck down to 60. There is no justification on the planet for running 61 cards.

>>54492662
there is math that says you get 5% fewer manascrews with this split.

Got any other ideas? Anything to help the burn matchup?

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>>54492728
let's see your "math"

That feel when I'm seriously considering a Karn Liberated for my Ponza sideboard or even mainboard. He can blow up land too, but also gives me an out against Counters Company gaining infinite life.

>>54492662
You can achieve slightly different land ratios when using 61 cards that can actually work out better than 60 cards. Completely dismissing it is retarded.

Ban Eldrazi Temple
Ban All Tron Lands
Ban Mox Opal
Make a stance on no fast mana. No fast mana in the Modern format. Fast mana leads to some of the worst games of Magic. Tron lands were printed first back in Antiquites, they definitely do not represent Modern. Temple and Eye were meant to satiate Timmies and help them cast their big Mythics like Kozilek and Ulamog, not power out mistakes like Reality Smasher. Sol Lands are unfair. Mox Opal is probably the fairest of the bunch because Stony Silence screws it and you can kill enough creatures to turn it off, but if the stance on fast mana is that it is not allowed in Modern (as Chrome Mox, the Rituals, and Artifact Lands being banned indicate) then it needs to go too

>>54492904

>artifact lands
>fast mana

?? maybe if you're trying to cast frogmite, I was of the understanding artifact lands were banned for multiple reasons

>>54492973
They are technically Ancient Tombs if you are casting Affinity creatures

>>54492973
they also enabled too much stupid shit

>>54492904
would this kill affinity?

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>>54486098
If you don't think bolt is one of the most powerful cards of all time then get the fuck out of my face.

>>54458726
How have I never heard of this fucking card! I have two different Soldier decks (one EDH, one Modern) and I have never come across this card until now. Hot fucking damn!

>>54467287
I'm banned for calling "Emma" Handy a he in chat

>>54493617
me too

>>54493617
I really hope they just banned you for a single time that could have easily been a typo too.

>>54492728
see

https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/frank-analysis-is-playing-more-than-60-cards-always-a-bad-idea/

It's objectively incorrect because the downsides from upping the land ratios are terrible compared to the downsides of running more than the minimum amount of cards.

>>54493215
Frank Karsten seems to think so and frankly I agree with him. Not like opal is getting banned anytime soon though

>>54494160
>the downsides from upping the land ratios
*The "upsides" from upping the land ratios

>>54492728
If there was "new math" that said going above 60 cards is an improvement to a deck not running Battle of Wits that would be major news across the community. If you can't even produce these numbers I'm going to assume you're an idiot or you're talking out of your ass.

>>54494302
I saw a living end list that ran like 66 cards or something like that because a living end in the hand is far worse than just about anything else

>>54494319
I know Scapeshift decks used to go above 60 sometimes to because having UUU for Cryptic Command while also having enough Mountains to kill your opponent is hard to work with. My point with Battle of Wits was that you need specific cards like those 3, Mystical Teachings is another one, to make having a less consistent deck make mathematical sense.

If it was 100% true in a blanket case that you should always run 61 cards, people would have solved that years ago and we'd all be using 61 card decks by now.

>>54494319
Did you see it in the top 8 of a serious event? because that's the bottom line here, people can throw around theory all they like but 60+ card decks never show up consistently. The best you get is 61 card decks from Hooligan who forces his way in with his experience alone

>>54494397
There was a standard abzan deck playing 63 cards that won a gp one time and everybody flipped their shit.

>>54494373
>If it was 100% true in a blanket case that you should always run 61 cards, people would have solved that years ago
while I completely disagree with this assertion, there currently exists a mountain of evidence suggesting that going above 60 is a bad idea in a blanket case, and no evidence to contrary

>>54494437
That's my point? If there was evidence to the contrary we would have found that evidence when it was laid out that 60 is nearly always the best option.

>>54494454
I would never make the claim that "we would have found X by now", just thinking about how new deck archetypes get discovered.

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>Esoteric/Not broken cards you wish were Modern legal
I love creature toolbox

>>54494547
coco is better if you want to get some weenies

>>54494547

Only if Wizard's reprinted him in a standard set to make him Modern Legal. the price on Recruiter is too freaking high for a niche card for a niche Legacy deck.

>>54494319
>because a living end in the hand is far worse than just about anything else
This is wrong. You don't give a shit if you draw your Living Ends. Statistically you will not draw all three copies; and the odds of drawing 2 are pretty low as well.

You WILL reliably cast Living End twice. If you need a 4th it's in the sideboard. I don't need to show statistics to say that there's a way bigger chance you will draw 2/8 Cascade spells long before you draw 2/3 Living Ends.

Whoever was playing 66 cards didn't fucking understand how the deck operates. The best and great case scenario has you dropping 3-4 bodies in the yard before Turn 3. Until another Street Wraith is printed this theory has not changed for over five years. Playing 66 cards actively goes against this principle and the core operation of the deck.

>>54494584
>wizards
>reprinting wanted cards in a standard set
never ever again

>>54465896
I have two copters on sideboard for my 8whack.dec lol

i can't find the article right now but I will find it eventually and post it. The math was showing that you could draw a card 2% more with 60, or you could have 5% less manascrew by playing an extra land. So it wasn't strictly superior, but I found the math persuasive for the tradeoff.

>>54459464
i played full-on prowessclasm with seekers and soulfires. it was rad.

Remember when Pyroclasm was a card people would actually, unironically run?

Crazy stuff.

>>54494907
I still do

>>54494942
It just seems like way too much shit has over 2 toughness to make it a reliable sweeper anymore. It's good at killing lingering souls tokens I guess.

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>>54494584
Just run Recruiter of the Guard

>>54494907
The way non-creature spells have to work nowadays is they have to sometimes get 2+ cards worth of value to be worth a fuck anymore.

Only way Pyroclasm (or Whipflare) is going to come back and do anything is if they print a strictly better version that exiles upon death. And it's probably going to be a Rare. And even then that's questionable when you got Prized Amalgams running around.

>>54494557
Dude imagine Naya CoCo, you CoCo into two of these and search up two toolbox creatures

>>54495085
>they have to sometimes
well, as far as removal is concerned, 1 for 1 is perfectly fine (as seen by the popularity of fatal push), people just want consistency out of removal
damage just isn't better than straight up destruction (or exiling with path, the top played card in modern) with respect to that

>>54495164
And put them in hand. Whoopee

>>54495188
I thought Thoughseize bumped Path down to 2nd place.

>>54495204
looks like it's played in more decks, but less copies of
regardless, thoughtseize and inquisition are also good examples of non-creature spells that are strictly 1 for 1 and highly valued
modern is all about consistency, those spells are practically guaranteed to get desirable trades, whereas something that does 2 damage isn't going to take care of large threats unless you're up against some tokens

>>54495188
>1 for 1 is perfectly fine
Right, 1-for-1 is fine, when you get something else out of it, in the case of Instant removal, you sometimes steal some or a lot of mana out fucking with combat math. The sheer fact that you have mana open will buy you time or life as people play around it or whatever other Flash effects you have or countermagic; countermagic is only as good as the other Instant threats you have.

Sorcery wraths like Pyroclasm mean that for one turn, the opponent gets free reign to do whatever they want. They get one turn of freedom to stick something around your Flash effects.

That's how you know how high-powered this whole format is. Your Instants are just buying you free mana or life if you have mana open. Sorceries and Enchantments have just been undercut by Planeswalkers so hard because they don't do anything more than what is written on the card.

>>54495533
>Your Instants are just buying you free mana or life if you have mana open
this sentence is a little unclear, but I think I get the rest of your post
>Sorcery wraths like Pyroclasm mean that for one turn, the opponent gets free reign to do whatever they want
depends on how much mana you have, I wouldn't imagine that you would actually need to wrath on turn 2 (affinity, I suppose, but then the efficiency of the trade is great and they won't have much to drop on their next turn)

there's plenty of room for sorceries and enchantments in the format (though enchantments are mostly hate), but instant speed spells are ideal for interaction, and when kills are fast you need to disrupt your opponent before they kill you

>>54495619
I guess I haven't felt like thinking too hard about Sorceries and Enchantments for a very long time. Wizards has taken all the focus away from those sorts of spells big and small that I've lost hope that something new will be printed and create a fresh new deck.

>>54458854
Looks like you played against Dragon Ball Bees in round two, except clearly a bad version.

>>54495886
What the fuck is this ?!

>>54464834
That's a pretty spicy roast.

>>54495916
It's an MTGO meme deck.
Play Hornet nest, use Hellion and Blasphemous act to deal large amounts of damage to nest
>bees
Have impact tremors or purphoros out
>not the fucking bees
Some youtuber made it. Kinda silly.

other than dragon shield sleeves, whats the next step up in collecting and preserving cards?

>>54496553
Top loading and stored in a container with temp/humidity control.

>>54496553
laminating them

stores buy their boxes for $80 right?

>>54496652
Yeah, it's something between 70-80USD for a box directly from Wizards, which is the cheapest they can get it.

Makes you wonder how the fuck anybody can sell a box for 90-100USD.

>>54496688
you can pay Rudy 100 a month for $80 boxes from any set

>>54490686
This is COMPETITIVE modern general. Take your shit brew to the dumpster where it belongs

>>54458726
>Playing?
Merfolk
>Hating?
Counters Company, I have like a 10% winrate against the deck. Most loses are all naturally drawn turn three kills. Swear I'm this close to bringing in Ceremonious Rejection against them.
>Want to build/play?
Mardu Nahiri with Bobs. I love Mardu colors and Bobs, it's be fun. Also, Latern is a deck I've wanted to play since Codex shredder got printed. Just those damn Ensnaring Bridges are such a pain
>Do you have any main deck tweaks for your meta?
Lots of Death's Shadow, I have two Mulldrifters in the sideboard they are fantastic.

>>54458670
Have built an 8-rack deck, dirt cheap unless I want to put liliana in, not sure I want to take it that seriously.

If I get on feature match camera at GP Birmingham I'll hold """emma""" up on a piece of paper in front of the camera.

>>54496785
If this is competitive general why do people say play GDS when it couldn't even top 8 vegas? It is literally an overrated shitbrew that is shilled here only.

>>54496812
Lilliana is just good to have, she goes in a bunch of black decks. And 8rack is good enough to take to FNM as you can cheese games from people all the time. I say, go ahead and pick up Lilly, play the deck, and slowly build something else.

>>54496864
Make sure the print is dark and bold so we can see it.

Is there any good way to trigger landfall on my opponents turn without paying life to do so?

>>54497337
Khalni Heart Expedition

>>54496902
Gds is the best deck as in it is the most consistent and has the best win percentages across the field. Just because a few nerds metagame'd against it at a GP doesn't change this fact.

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>>54497433
GDS is fucking shit. Its an overrated shitbrew shilled by hyped up Bluefags who were eager to have a good blue deck again. Now they have buyers remorse and feel the need to shill the deck everywhere. Ill just keep Reality Smashing them with a Cavern on Eldrazi. Or even better a Chalice on 1.

>>54499003
LOL coming from the deck that gets destroyed by coco

>>54499036
Its a rough match but Eldrazi Tron is good against nearly all the top decks. I do very well against Deaths Shit, Affinity is rough, Burns tough but very beatable, UR Storm loses to Chalice on 2, UW Control is gg easy, Jund and Abzan are buys

>>54499117
Jund and Abzan are bottom of the barre T3 now

>>54499117
byes, brah.

i haven't actually lost to eTron yet, but i do take losses from WB Eldrazi if i can't answer Lingering Souls.

eTron good deck, local pilots not so good.

Blue Steel is actually real shit.