Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

SM: July 29th
CSM+GK: August 19th
DG: September 23rd
T'AU+AM: October 7th
TYRANID+BA: November 11th
NECRONS+TS: December 9th

can anyone read the pyschic powers?

Faqs are removed from the Gw site. Wu Tang is now back to being legal.

>>54449453
Is there a source for this, or is it just a meme? Why would they release multiple codexes on the same day?

>>54449455
>>54446288

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>Black Templars have the best anti-psyker defense and heroic intervention is 6'' for the warlord

Where is your god now, heretic?

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>>54449453
>No Orks

>>54449480
>heroic intervention
>aura

>>54446288
Why the fuck would you cast psychic scourge over smite?

>>54449510
Its the warlord trait.

I have to ask this question, guys, dont throw bolters at me.
How come new starter being "balanced"? Death guard are on par with new Primaris Marines?

>>54449514
You can aim it, or you want to use both.

>>54449480
>spend 1 Command Point for a 50% chance of denying a power
>once per phase
Woo, soo good.

>heroic intervention is 6'' for the warlord
Yeah, so much better than a 6+ save-after-the-save

leddit has a list of the codex shit if you can't read
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/6oozk1/codex_space_marines_preview/

>>54449480
Doesn't stop people on Facebook from bitching at Nick

How to kill armies, P1:

Necrons:
>just gun down that their silly warrior blob, and laugh as your literal bolters reduced 1/4 of his army to uselessness T1
>grab some plasma, reaper launcher, autocannon, or whatever S6+, decent AP, and multi-damage weapon you've got, and shuffle away those destroyers. Who are also worse than Admech destroyers.
>then turn those same guns slightly to the side, and spray away his quantum shielded vehicles. That was easy!
>anything else he brought is easily taken down by any combination of the two, or some unconventional melee spam or something, so enjoy taking down the would-be terminators with ease!

What other armies are easy to hard counter? Let's get an idiot's guide to victory going

>>54449529
Could you, ah, phrase this so it's actually a question that can be answered? Do you want to know if they are balanced? Do you want to complain about how they're not?

>>54449521
Sorry, I don't read ant language and only read the reddit shit

>>54449550
>repulsor tank can have the same heavy gatling cannon as the dreadnought
Oh me oh my.

>>54449453
>look mom, i do it in all the generals!

>>54449574
>Dark Eldar: Drown in low Toughness models so they'll rue the day they decided to use nothing but poisoned guns for their infantry
>Tau: Charge Warriors and Suits with your transports, THEN charge with your units

>>54449543
A 50/50 shot to negate any power once per psychic phase is very potent, especially against armies that are built to revolve around certain effects. Cancelling Warp Time or Da Jump can be a lifesaver.

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>>54449419
What do you guys think Legion tactics will look like once CSM gets their book? I'm hopeful that Iron Warriors won't have to rely on god awful Obliteraters.

>>54449613
Is it T9 tho ?

Do we have any idea what the other 9 stratagems are?

>>54449671
Any self-respecting IW player has at least one unit of oblits in his army at all times, if not more and mutilators, too

>>54449671
"Iron Warriors may spend a CP to automatically hit with a Demolisher Cannon or Battle Cannon."

You know they will just directly copy-paste from Traitor Legions, only they turn them into one-shot moba powers.

>>54449419
So, now that we know that Horus has power on the levels of the Emperor, that makes me wonder: What if Horus is the one on the Golden Throne? Horrified by the death of his father, the state of his brothers, and what he has done, he took up the golden throne out of guilt? It would explain his rapid changes in policy, and why he has made no attempts to refuse godhood anymore.

That, or Pius backstabs him.

>>54449738
>So, now that we know that Horus has power on the levels of the Emperor
What?

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>>54449522
40K still has some awesome art, they just choose the most generic stuff for the main rules and such for some reason.

>>54449724
>>and mutilators, too

No wonder we're so fucking bitter.

New to the hobby, so far I've got two Death Guard Halves of the DI box set.

So 2x Lord of Contagion, 2x Noxious Blightbringer, 2x Malignant Plaguecaster, 2x7 Plague Marines with Plasma Gun and Power Fist, 2x 20 Poxwalkers and 2x Foetid Bloat Drone.

Also got 3 easy build Plague Marines with Powerfist and Plasma gun and Blight Launcher.

What should I expand into? Anything I can do to refine this list? Drop stuff? Get more of stuff?

>>54449662
Sure, but I wouldn't say it's that good. It's a slightly-above-average solution for the problem you created for yourself by picking an army that can't have Librarians.

What it does excel at is getting rid of powers cast with an above-average psychic test.

But with more armies getting access to bigger psychic disciplines, there may be more than one power you'd like to deny per turn.

And Warptime and Da Jump in particular really only need to work once, so a coin toss whether it screws you over or not isn't that impressive.

>>54449574

Khorne:
>objective one: stay 13" away
>objective two: then just shoot him to death. Woo-hoo.
>oh no! He's summoned things! Well look at that, the little chaff champs up front at any charges, or you jut used any other trick to keep him over 9" away.
>Good work! Now kill him

Slannesh:
>get a fuckload of S3 or a decent amount of S6 and fuck her (him? it?) so hard you'll bring another, better slannesh into existence.

Admech:
>see what you just did to those necrons? Same thing, except the vehicles are even easier to kill! >No quantum shielding means those crabs and chickens will be running home as soon as a D6 shows up to the party

Nurgle:
>remember when the nurgle player says virtually every weapon does diddly to stop him?
>we'll take a note from the guard, and bring a whole lot of diddly. Storm bolters, lasguns, shurikens, and poison, anything you want so long as it's got enough numbers to still do damage after 4/9 is lost to saves.
>the only thing that's really disgusting is how effective a fucking storm bolter is

>>54449750
If the travesty that is MoM stays canon then Horus is probably just going to turn the Emperor into a slurry.

>>54449724
Eh, debatable. Oblits were never cost-effective. In 5e, autolas killed mech better. In 6e, autohavocs were more cost effective. That and you needed to convert them up, because fuck Finecast.

Traitor Legions was fun for the 6 months it lasted if you ran a CAD. If you did a Grand Company, the Cult of Destruction wasn't worth it. You could do:

-Max warband + one Armored Crate ('dat stubborn obsec and shooting rerolls)

or

-A warband, buy a spare Rhino for a Havoc Team, and take Fist of the Gods.

3 Vindicators, give one Outflank, and give the Warpsmith the Rhino.

>>54449724
>Any self-respecting IW player
No, any self-respecting IW player is still mourning his Basilisk.

Obliterators are so absolutely shit now that no self-respecting IW player would include them in their army by choice.

>>54449850
>IW players really are so stupid they haven't realized they can take basilisks still
Haha, your Primarch sucks and so does your legion

TG name my dog
40k inspired and trips decide
(preferably loyalist)

>>54449881
Marbo

>>54449881
Leman Russ

Naming a dog after a dog is only appropriate

>>54449879
Your Legion of choice has many negative attributes.

>>54449881
Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka, The Beast of Armageddon

>>54449881
Logar

>>54449917
That would be hard to explain at the park

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>>54449879

>>54449881
roboute guilliman

>>54449881
Asdrabul

Which Contemptor looks best? FW or GW?
Also, would it be wrong to use a fouding chapter Contemptor for a successor? I mean, they are after all relics from the Horus Heresy era

>>54449811
For now I'd recommend keeping it slow and easy. You can expect a lot more releases very soon, so no need to jump the gun and get stuff that'll be outclassed soon.

Paint what you have and get to know your army. For your first few games, your collection minus one Lord of Contagion and one Noxious Blightbringer will make a great army.

If you desperately want to add something, add either a Helbrute or a Predator.

After that, sit tight and wait for the next wave of Death Guard releases.

>>54449550
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/6oozk1/codex_space_marines_preview/
>Chapter Master strategem
That's nonsense. Why the fuck would they make the chaptermaster a strategem of all fucking things?

>>54449954
FW. I'm certain that if a successor managed to get one of them they'd keep the markings the same, but might otherwise repaint it.

>>54449881
girlyman

>>54449916
>being a cucked marinelet
Yeah right pal, I'm serving the only God that ever loved me back- the machine one

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>>54449879
>he uses FW books

>>54449881
Alpharius

>>54449954
GW has a good contemptor and it's plastic, but overall the FW ones tend to look better and have more options, though now you could get the GW one and then get FW upgrade kits for it

>>54449881
The Lion

>>54449881
Grukk

So, how do you expect the new imperium to reogranite the grey knights? Hopefully something with more "your dudes" potential

>>54449999
Checked

>>54449993
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing, thanks!

>>54450008
Well, if you've gotta get them weps from FW anyway, could as well get the body from there as well

>>54449881
Marneus Augustus Calgar

>>54449987
Because it fits? All the Chapter Master upgrade does is to upgrade your Captain's "reroll 1s To Hit" aura to a "reroll all failed To Hit" aura.
The 3 Command Point requirement also forces you to either cripple yourself or only use him in the sort of big games he belongs in.

>>54449881
trips will take too long

anyway, name it... drukhari

>>54449998
sooo close

>>54449987
You realize they pretty much copypasted and translated assorted Formation, Decurion and vehicle squadron bonuses and just called them stratagems, not caring that they don't actually result in a customizable army, but encourage finding the best bonus for the least opportunity cost and encouraging spam even more than 7th did. :)

>>54449881
Kitten

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>>54450022
>Grey Knights? Oh no, they're my own Chapter of anti-Daemon Marines, they just happen to look and fight like Grey Knights
There, fixed it.

I'm just hoping for some Primaris Marines with Nemesis Force Weapons, as implausible as that would be

>>54449881
Yarrick

>>54450027
For like an extra 50% to the price?

>>54450039
Cato Sicarius

>>54449881
fulgrim

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>>54449954
Oh gee I don't know it's so hard to tell.

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>>54449998
>off by one

On a side note, does anyone know if they'll ever bring back formations? Every list I played last edition was nothing but formations and now everything I run is more or less arbitrary.

>>54450115
>On a side note, does anyone know if they'll ever bring back formations?
Nope, formations are gone.
Good riddance

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Battle of the (nearly) normals; A Krieger, a Catachan, a Cadian, a Skitarius, a Sororita and a Scion all get into a barfight. Who is the last one standing, assuming they're all wearing casual outfits and the only weapons available are glass bottles and pool cues?

>>54450115
as far as i know GW doesnt intent do bring formations back which is a good thing, at least in my opinion

>>54449881
Rogal

>>54450088
Same prices in Sweden

>>54450113
Yeah, the FW obviously looks better like this but I've never seen one first-hand, figured there might be a difference

>>54448903
Are you shooty space marines? If so, you have no hope but aircraft, leviathans or knights to carry the day.

If you are literally anything else just look for your most efficient melee units and spam them. Boyz, Berzerkers, Genestealers, etc. etc. etc. and kill off the warriors in righteous melee.

Kharn+zerker buddies has killed a 20 warrior blob of mine on the charge before, as have stormboyz.

>>54450115
Formations ran 7th into the ground. Let them stay dead.

>>54449577
Okay, i was sort of in a hurry.
Is the new starter balanced pointswise etc etc?
Are Death Guard balanced compared to Primaris Marines and what is the difference statwise between Primaris and old marines?

>>54450137
The Krieger, their casual attire is a helmet, a gasmask and flak

>>54450115
Gone forever. However if the SM codex is anything to go by, some formation type rules will exist as stratagems you spend CP to temporarily activate.

>>54450115

They are now called strategems it seems

Anyone know how big Epic Knights are?

>>54450075
>>54450022
Didn't gw confirm no primaris for gk? THey would probably just say they are rescaled gk in case

>>54449881
Chadmarine

>>54450113

You can also get some of the legion specific dreads and file a few identifying marks off them: Death guard is particularly good for this because the marks are very easy to take off and it looks really good as a Mortis dread.

>>54450113
Oh shit, yeah I had a brainfart, forgot about the complete nonpose the GW had, its only worth anything if it costs decently less then the FW

>>54450157
This. Kriegers are pretty much the 40k equivalent of hardcore /k/ autists

>>54450169
Does the Gorilla even know about GKs?

>>54450168
They are frigging epic big

>>54450115
No, they are replaced by Stratagems which effectively turn your detachments into formations. Basically more restrictions for bonuses which is better for the game as opposed to last edition were it was all free.

>>54450140
On the FW contemptor you can easily pose the arms, elbows, head, torso, hips, knees and feet.

On the GW contemptor you can choose at which angle the arms are connected.

You tell me which one is better.

>>54450210
Yeah no doubt about it, thanks for the info

>>54449881
Lamenter

>>54449529
Out of the box, Death Guard has a 9/10 victory rate over the Primaris.

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>>54450140
The difference is that the GW is essentially 2D.

>>54450185
It's 60$ or 10$ cheaper than FW.

>>54450192
Okay, let me rephrase that.

Is it as large as a 40k guardsman? I want to run some as mechanicum robot troops, I need to know how big they are.

I know that epic termies are 1/3-1/4 the size of space marines, for instance.

>>54450151
Ah, okay.

The Primaris Marines are a few points higher than the Death Guard. If I remember correctly, you reach pretty much the same points for both if you add a unit of Nurglings to the Death Guard.
Either way, the difference isn't big enough that you'd feel overwhelmed playing as Death Guard.

The difference between normal Space Marines and Primaris Marines is that the new guys have 2 Wounds and Attacks each compared to the 1 of the normal ones. They also have slightly better guns but lose most of their options, so the new guys are tough and pretty strong, but nowhere as flexible.

Just had my first game of 8th today. Holy fuck guard got buffed. I totally tabled his muhreens on turn 3. The amount of firepower you can put out and staying power of commissars is insane.

>>54450234
You can pick up the Calthtemptor for 35$ on ebay. So basically two for one. I'd still go with a single FW over two GWs though.

>>54450168
Pretty much the size of a Marinelet, maybe a bit smaller.

>>54450191
Considering GK Voldus was in the Triumvirate of the Primarch. My gut says MAAAAYBE?

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>>54450157
Skitarii are sealed inside their uniforms and their bodies are genetically modified to produce a natural anti-bacterial lube so they can wear them for years at a time. It also includes a helmet, rebreather, optics and carapace rather than flak.

Plus they're 50% metal and highly radioactive so everyone in the bar gets cancer and dies.

>>54450285
Oh. Right. Maybe he thought he was just a really shiny Ultramarine?

>>54449881
Belisarius

>>54450292
>highly radioactive so everyone in the bar gets cancer and dies.

great, now the Krieger feels like home and he started digging a trench in the bar

>>54450210

Though to be fair, if you want a Contemptor with the calthtemptor's equipment and have passable conversion skills, it's not hard to repose the waist and legs to have some basic dynamism, though you'll need something for them to stand on.

>>54449881

Skrunch

>>54450292
Man they went full grimdark with the skitarii codex.

>>54450282
Thanks!

Curze

>>54450311
Why would anyone want a contemptor? It looks terrible and gimpy as fuck.

>>54449881
pedro (kantor)

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If you had to choose ONE SM faction out of these to field at your lgs, which would you choose?

>Imperial Fists
>Blood Angels
>Dark Angels
>Space Wolves
>Black Templars
>Ultramarines
>Raven Guard
>Grey Knights
>Salamanders

>>54450334

off by one, you were close

>>54450316

admech is the grimdark/grimdork-iest of them all

am i the only one who doesnt hate primarines but isnt very interested in their minis nor their fluff?

t.grognard

>>54450360
gk

>>54450316
Wait until you hear the fluff of the Onager, which is manned by one Skitarii Ranger and one Skitarii Vanguard. The Vanguard, who thanks to radioactivity already has a shitty life expectancy, has to be submerged in a radioactive tank that will kill him extremely quickly. Once he's dead, they toss his body out and throw another Vanguard in the tank then close the lid.

And one of the biggest honours for Skitarii who showed independent thought is to be given a piece of raw radioactive matter that kills them even more quickly so the independent streak in the maniple can be culled.

>>54450360
Probably Raven Guard. My armies' are pretty immobile and trying out lots of Jump infantry and (hopefully) Lightning Claws could be fun.

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>>54450135
>>54450138
>>54450147
>>54450160
>>54450165
I played nids last edition and I loved the idea of fluffy, focused reasons to field half the models when most were subpar and competitive lists were dominated by flyrant spam. Shit like the hypertoxic node and skyblight appealed to me so hard.

>>54450204
That doesn't sound too bad. I love it when any game offers some type of incentive for playing thematically. Building formations last edition is what helped me get into the game last edition as I was otherwise lost on what to get/build next. I'm new as fuck so it made building up an army that wasn't netlisted/min-maxed/metagamed much easier and fun.

>>54450370
I hate the fluff and the whole space marine space marine bullshit. They do look good though, like a proper space marine should look. I'm going to get some and covert to deathwatch.

>>54450370
Nah, I'm the same and I just started playing during 8th. I'm just completely indifferent to them. Certainly doesn't help they seem to be overcosted.

>>54450370
I just wish they said it was mk10 armour and not a new breed of SM, they don't look that out of place compared to the newer DW, TS and DG minis

>>54450360
blood abgeks

>>54450360
Space Wolves, you can justify taking whatever dreadnoughts/knights/stormravens/centurions/conscripts you need from other codexes and get better melee options.

>>54450387
Fucking wot m8. Who wrote this edgy shit?

>>54450391
>I played nids last edition and I loved the idea of fluffy, focused reasons to field half the models when most were subpar and competitive lists were dominated by flyrant spam. Shit like the hypertoxic node and skyblight appealed to me so hard.
Too bad that's not what formations were.
They were either "take all the units you were going to take anyways and have the powerful bonuses" or "pay all these points for mediocre units and get these shitty bonuses"

>>54450423
Yeah pretty much all the fluffy formations were shit.

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Really considering cutting off that huge cloud of shit from the Nurgle Sorcerer model.

It looks bad IMO.

But would the model still look cool without it? Anyone tried anything like that? I really like the psychich phase and I want my DG army to have two or maybe three psykers but I just don't know about this guy, all the other models are great.

>>54449881
Also name him Typhus

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So how are they going to do chapter tactics for Tyranids, do different Hive Fleets war any differently?

>>54450360
I've been tempted for a while to do a genuinely Viking inspired Space Wolf army, so that my Thousand Sons can have some more dignified archnemeses.

>>54449466
Check again tomorrow, I would bet the newly updated FAQ with additional clarifications will be out then.

>>54449881
Lion would be a pretty suitable dog name.

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>>54450360
Salamanders, I like their color scheme and I really like their "set things on fire" attitude.

>>54450140
>Same prices in Sweden
Buy plastic kits from Wayland Games with free shipping instead of being cucked by your local store and it'll be a lot cheaper than buying from FW

If I have a full unit of havocs can I still only take 4 heavy/special weapons? The rules are not very clear

>>54450370
Not *very* interested, no. I just wanna know how much torture porn the creation process adds to the Space Marine fluff. I mean, the normal Marine transformation is already pretty gruesome but anything that'll give even those guys a massive growth spurt has got to be horrifying.

And their models, well, they're nice and bland so you can customize them yourself instead of them already being decked out with bling from the get go, so that's nice.

The one model I am truly interested in though is the new Primaris Apothecary, because he'll make the perfect basis for a little Slaaneshi Apothecary project I've been thinking about for some time.

>>54450441
I only just noticed that guardsmens hands. What the fuck? Why are they hulk sized?

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Has anyone ever tried combining the ground war game with Battlefleet Gothic, into a single game?

Something truly insane in scale. Imagine setting up 3 boards with 3 separate armies on your side, then right behind the boards, you set up your fleet of ships. For chapter vs. another chapter, each would have their battle-barge out, and a small fleet of strike cruisers or something.

Somehow combine the mechanics into a single table-top game.

>>54449881
C.M. Smashfucker

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>>54450469
Decades of wanking off Howling Griffons and guard

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>>54450387
Rangers seem to be treated better from what I've heard/read. Their guns don't give them cancer, they are not bolted permanently to any vehicle, and can't Ranger Alphas even become tech priests?

>>54449881
Badrukk (or Badruff)

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>>54450423
I didn't know what was good, but it gave me a direction in which to build my army.

So how exactly do sacrifices to the Emperor work? I know they need a fuckton of psykers to feed the guy, but what's the process? Do they stick a knife in him, say some prayers, and the Emperor eats them? Do they need to shove the guy into the Emperor's skull?

>>54450441
Yes, read some Tyranid fluff sometime.

>>54450469
Plastic Cadians are more or less the models that singlehandedly broke the scale of 40k.
You can thank the fucker that designed then for the design direction that lead to Primaris marines.

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>>54449881
Kugath!

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>>54450360
Black Templars. Rules be damned, I like their style.

>>54450420
How new are you? The AdMech have always been basically Phyrexia in space.

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>>54449881
Duncan

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>>54450360
IMPERIAL
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Anyone knows what colors are these? I'm looking for ideas to paint my dark eldars, I hate green.

>>54450499
Same. I fell in love with Emperor's Wrath

>>54450438
I took the little Bug-Wing cape off because I was certain it'd snap sooner or later and that didn't ruin the model at all. The cloud however is just about the most distinctive feature about the model and if you cut it off, the focus will be on the gut and the face, both of which are much harder to paint than the cloud, so your choice.

Then again, if you can build a nicer Plaguecaster, just do that.

As for playing them, I'd say don't play two Plaguecasters, play one Plaguecaster and one generic Nurgle Sorcerer, because both Warp Time and Prescience are *really* good for a Death Guard army, but the Plaguecaster's rules are also very good.

>>54450472
You could add some rudimentary interactions. Sending reinforcements (or intercepting them,) orbital strikes, etc. Wouldn't be too hard.

>>54450472
>battlefleet gothic will never be supported, remade or the minis recast

Just fucking kill me now.

>>54450521
Yeah I know but guardsmen hands are not that big. I just looked at mine and the hands are like half that size. Why did that guy use fucking huge hands?

>>54449881
Rogal Dorn

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>>54450360
Dark Angels

Cool colour scheme, lots of plasma, angel aesthetic, some of the best looking models (Deathwing knights, interrogator chaplains etc).

>>54450335

>Not liking the eggnought

Box, egg, boat and DOOMFRIDGE are all special in their own way.

The only shit Dread is the new one.

>>54450566
At a guess I'd say that's pallid wych flesh & agrax earthshade. That is just a guess though.

>>54450316
>they went full grimderp with the skitarii codex.

First army I ever collected that I liked less after reading their codex fluff. I just try and ignore it.

>>54450461
>up to four
What about this is in any way, shape or form unclear? You get up to four per unit no matter how big the unit is.

>>54449881
He shall be named Alpharius.

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>>54450586
>being this mad about the best dread ever made

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Oh gee dubs. Your creative mastery is unparalleled

>>54449881
Lion El Homo
Check 'em

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>>54449881
Inquisitor Hector Rex

>>54450495
iirc any Alpha can become a Tech Priest. A Vanguard simply gets some super-chemo treatments if he makes it that far, but yeah, in general being a Ranger seems a bit nicer. In the end both are mind-controlled Cyborgs who ritualistically have their feet cut off, but I guess being a Ranger is a marginally better fate.

>>54450608
What is the joke here?

>>54450606

>"Best dread ever made" so embarassing you post a different model

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1.) Can you field lesser known chapters like Astral Knights?

2.) How do you choose the Chapter Master? Is there a generic Chapter Master mini you can customize a bit to make it stand out?

>>54450554
soooooooo close to based duncan

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>>54450495
They still have their eyelids surgically removed so they can't deny precious data to their masters by closing their eyes, have their legs sawn off, can have their personality switched off by any tech-priest and can be basically controlled like a puppet by a magos in orbit who can read any thought that comes into their head at any time.

AdMech need a 40% reduction in grimdark imo. It's getting silly.

>>54450636
damn, do you really have to ask this question?

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Newbie here. We had a doubt earlier in a game: can the Immortals fire at the plaguemarines? They are not 1" close to the necrons, and the immortal on the right has line of sight. Was it bullshit or the immortal could fire?

>>54450506
There's this huge pyramid-like thing with a thousand seats. They sit the Psyker down, then have him establish a contact with the existing network between the Emperor and the pyramid full of Psykers. And then the guy, like all the others around him, slowly has his life force sucked out to fuel the Emperor and his giant warp beacon.

>>54450626
>walking your dog
>qt grill walks past
>awww what a cute doggie, what's his name?
>inquisitor Hector Rex
>qt grill smiles awkwardly and retreats as fast as possible

Kekd.

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>>54450651
yes

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>>54449881
Carab Culln

>>54450643

GW decided only some chapters are allowed to just take a chapter master, gaining the generic buff aura and a chapter specific ability.

Everyone else has to spend command points to boost a generic captain, gaining the aura but no chapter specific ability.

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>>54449881
Roboute Guilliman, Master of the Five Hundred Worlds, Warden of Macragge, Primarch of the 13th, the Avenging Son.

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>>54450653
As long as they were not in Combat then yes, nice necrons

>>54450581
FW are making an updated version of BFG set in 30k after they're done with Adeptus Titanicus

>>54449881
Leman Ruff

>>54450543
That pic is how truescale marines should have been done.

>>54450633

>Skitarii can become tech priests

Shit, can an Ursarax become a tech priest? Because I think I just had a character idea.

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>>54450636
>>54450651
>>54450665

>>54450250
Okay ty.
>>54450233
You too.

>>54450684
Got it. Thanks a lot, and my friend says thanks on the necron paint.

>>54450692
Finally. I don't even know anyone who plays Gothic, but I'm still excited if just to paint the new models.

>>54450653
Sure. Models can look through other models in their own unit and all three can see the Plague Marines. The Plague Marines meanwhile are not locked in melee so are a target they may choose.

>>54450692
>30k

Interest peaked and then deleted. I don't want to play muhreens vs muhreens in space. Half the appeal of bfg was all the xenos races with crazy different ships and strategies. Imperial ships vs heretic imperial ships will be a borefest.

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>>54450586
Open up your heart.

>>54450653
>>54450730
So then could a unit of Guardsmen shoot past their own chimera if set up like a barricade?

>>54450665
Really? Jesus.

How old are you, Anon?

>>54450750
I vote we call it the pregnaught from now on.

>>54449466
no, they're still up.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Rules-Errata?_requestid=6109883#40k-errata

>>54450750

Don't think you can sway me with a strip tease, Redemptor-kun.

>>54450745
Piqued, you illiterate.

>>54450767
I think tanks and MCs block line of sight still. I might be wrong though.

>>54450692
>FW are making an updated version of BFG set in 30k after they're done with Adeptus Titanicus

Citation needed my dude. Literally the only thing said so far is that, at some point in the future, BFG is going to be redone.

>>54450767
No. You need to be able to see. If you can see part of your enemy you can shoot him. If there's a literal tank in front of you then you cannon shot the guy on the other side.

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Pre-Orders up on the Kiwi site, here's the new points pdf

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>>54449419
Is it a rule to lament when you win/lose when you're playing as the Lamenters?

>>54450787
No I meant to say peaked. As in my interest peaked the fuck out when I read 'new bfg' and then got deleted when I read it was 30k.

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>>54447298

How did you get that green around the shoulder? Bought a bunch of green paints to do my green robes Biologis Admech, patterned off pic related. Was going to go Death World Forest/Athonian/Highlight Ogryn Camo, but I'm worried that will be a bit too light. Maybe do a layer of Kaballite Green under the DWF layer, if that would affect the colour at all?

>>54448244

There aren't really any, not enough about Titans at all.
I do want to read more Adventures of Legio Invicta, though I bet I'd be gutted when the Red Rage finally caught up with Gearhart. I honestly thought the Imperator would kill him in glorious combat.
I was thinking of getting a Warhound and painting it in black or dark grey/blue with a blue or purple sheen, as the "Sneaky Little Bastard" that they had to get 3 Warlords to put down. Or possibly a Reaver, since I think they're the best looking Titan. Not sure what scheme, though, if I don't do the complicated iridescence thing.

>>54450647

Still, those mods DO make them significantly more effective in combat, and hence, less likely to die. I always wondered how much a complete and utter knowledge of how much any troop is worth and the willingness to sacrifice any to protect more important ones would reduce casualties.
Sure, your masters might throw you in front of Plascal Boi to save him, but at the same time they'll be throwing away other troops tactically, meaning you win the battle faster due to better casualty exchanges. Does that increase YOUR chance of survival much if you're a basic pleb?

>>54450745

Deploy the GLORIOUS FORCES OF THE OMNISSIAH then? They're WAY more interesting than the Marines, the models are gorgeous so far and the fluff is versatile as fuck. I'm not really a Marine fan and I play HH just for the Mech.

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New Dread is best Dread

Can't wait to get my hands on one, but a little pricey so saving up

>>54450745

I really enjoyed 30k. The games were shockingly diverse despite everyone using the same base thing, and people were usually more fluffy about their lists.

Then 8th happened and FW proudly announced they were keeping the dumpster fire known as 7th edition. Literally all of my desire to play HH is kill, and likewise painting up my CSM with it because my CSM were a crossover project.

>>54450805
I assume you'll always be lamenting about loss seeing as the whole of your army is basically 30 tacticals.

>>54450814
This is bait right? It's literally "piqued" for what you're describing.

>>54450745
I feel the same.

hopefully it's just backwards compatible enough like necromunda and SWA to use the old fleet rules with it.

For the purpose of the Tactical Reserve rule in matched play, how many units do I have to place in the table when I bring a drop pod with a unit and an HQ in reserve? That whole thing counts as one as its inside the drop pod, right?

>>54450661
You shorten it to "Rex" when talking to girls.
If you can't figure that stuff out, you aren't going to be able to talk to girls anyways.

>>54450828
I genuinely don't see the appeal of a few different base armies made 'Fluffy' by painting different colours and changing special and heavy weapons around. Super lame.

REDEMPTOR NAUT IS 140 PTS

>>54450845
3. its 3 units so it counts as 3.

theres no combining units at all in 8e

>>54450797
How about you prove me wrong instead, fuccboi

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>>54450820
>Implying the Contemptor isn't the final word on dreads

>>54450851
It's a fucking joke anon, Jesus.

>>54450606
i just... don't like the helmet.

>Availability: Pre-order product that will ship on 29/07/2017
>>54449453
FUKKIN CONFIRMED

>>54450863
>this unit is around the same price of similar units like chaos daemon engines
Wow shocking

>>54450880
Hahahana Holy fuck that things looks terrible every time I see it I laugh.

>>54450880
>his name is Amelius

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>>54450880
DA KING A DA DREDS

DA DEFFDREAD!

>>54450636
The joke is that the plasma obliterator (the fortification) is equipped with a plasma obliterator (the weapon).

>>54450692
ADEPTUS TITANICUS FUCKING WHEN PLEASE. Im either waiting for that or chucking my money at a 30k epic recaster for a game noone else around me plays but i love the idea of epic 30k

>>54450828
I've been running my Iron Warriors with HH models for a long time now with the intention of getting to play HH as well. When 8th came out my game group basically stopped playing it. At least my models look nicer than the twenty year old Chaos sprues.

>>54450838
>piqued
As in, it piqued my attention.
>peaked
As in, it reached a peak and then plummeted down

>>54450927
>DO WHAT I WANT OR I'LL THROW A LITTLE TANTRUM
kek you're the reason why everyone hates you

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How badly did the Blood Angels get devestated in their last engagement with the Nids?

How much of the chapter remains at this point? Thinking of rebuilding my BA army entirely with Primaris stuff.

>>54450859

Again, that's what I thought. The legion rules really make things different. Like Night Lords getting +1 Hit and Wound for out numbering, but also falling back further.

I mostly got into it because I basically had 3 HH boxes fall into my lap. Now that HH is officially shit tier rules, I'm going to take my remaining MKIV armors and do Carcharodons while praying for plastic MKV at some point.

>>54450800

>Redemptor with no-brainer loadout is 202 points

A bit cheaper than I expected, but still comfortably inefficient. Nice.

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>>54450927
tfw no one plays epic:armageddon anymore, despite it being the best 40k wargame

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>>54450874

> Spout bullshit
> Shift burden of proof when called out

Let me guess, you're just pretending to be retarded?

>>54450922
Thank you anon

>>54450880

Jesus fuck that's sexy.

https://ru.aliexpress.com/store/group/Battlefleet-Gothic/1692022_260709722.html

>My fucking face when

Time to crack out the credit card. Aliexpress my best friend.

>>54450964
Tfw a single fan made system is out and its great but models are few and far between. 3d printing is still expensive and shit without a proper CAD or scanner system. And also noone wants to play it

Fucking kill me guys

>>54450828

Exactly this, my current 40k SM army were originally going to be a 30k IF list, but FW's retarded decision to stay in 7th despite 80% of the transition work being done for them has killed my interest in HH for the time being.

>>54449881
paenis cupcake

>>54450945
Was...was this meant for me. It doesnt sound related to what I was saying.

>>54450955

Would be pretty awesome if it came with 2+ skill stats.

ok, so stratagems and relics go away if you take a non chapter unit. how about tactics?

>>54450951
I imagine enough died that all the future BA art will be Primaris Marines.

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>>54450711
I doubt it, they're basically Thallax i.e. morphine addicted shocktroops who spend their every waking moment either in agony or heavily sedated after killing something.

As far as I'm aware, there's no canon occurence of a Skitarius being elevated into the priesthood, they're very much lay-people/cyborgs within the Cult and Priests of Mars seems to suggest the Cult operates a sort of caste system where future priests are selected from a group specifically studying to become Magi, not from gifted menials or Skitarii.

The Skitarius novel also draws a pretty clear line between the Skitarii (who are just treated as particularly autonomous combat-servitors) and the Priesthood they serve. A Skitarius being elevated to the rank of Magos would be like a plantation slave being elected into congress in the 18th century, Skitarii are things, tools to the Tech-Priests, they're owned entirely by the Magos they serve, they're property.

>>54450951
They lost at least two chapter masters so plenty of chapters were probably crippled, I dont think they ever mention casualty numbers but its safe to say the entire lineage is being updated with Primaris Marines.

>>54451012
probably the same.

>>54450820
Anyone got one in Dark Angel colours? Also should I paint it green or cream like the Deathwing?

>>54451012
I believe tactics are detachment wide so you can another detachment of whatever else, someone can correct me if Im wrong.

>>54450936

Oh yea. Those plastic MkIII are great for IW players. They're ok for NL, but MKIV is where its at for them.

What do you use for termies? I have 10 plastic Catas that I'll be making my NL termies along with 5 actual CSM termies I use for characters since we don't have armor options. Then, I also have 5 plastic Tartaros and 5 recast FW tartaros that I'll be using for my Carchardons since they can actually use their better movement.

>>54450999

It sucks. I can't even use my Dreadclaw anymore because 200pts is waaay too steep for what it does. However, I AM glad I haven't gotten to paint my normal drop pods yet. I'll be using them for the 'Dons even though they're kinda meh, too. I'll be podding in assmarines because I can't give my Tacs Chainswords anymore.

>>54450820
That is not a flattering angle

>>54450711
No, not in a million years, since they are lobotomized and twisted horrors that are in horrific agony every moment of their lives aside from slightly after killing something.
However, the Malagra exist, Heretek and Renegade hunters with some pretty stupid duelling tech and Mad Skillz that make them basically Archmagos Paula Myo. They scare the FUCK out of every other type of Magos bar the Reductor, so one of them augmenting him or herself with a Rage Mode button wouldn't be out of place.
What's your character idea, anon?

>>54450647
>>54450633
Part of me wishes the Warhammer 40k setting would become more nobledark, it bugs me that very few factions like Space Marines and T'au actually give a damn about unnecessary casualties. Even fewer factions are allowed to enjoy anything, it's all but canon that only Orks can have a good time. I don't want a Star Trek noblebright fiction but please GW tone down the grimdark 5-10%.

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Anyone know of anywhere there's a download of the new Farsight novel?

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>>54451091
Ugh no thanks.

>>54451099

Just buy it at this point, you've begged too much

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>>54449879

>>54450966
Being retarded is a lifestyle

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I want to be a defensive asshole and I have one more Basilisk ordered from my FLGS. What should I add next to my force?

>>54451087

Was just the idea of a tech priest arising from the Ursarax through shows of piety and interest in secrets of the machine cult, opting to keep the body then augmenting from there. Eventually she ends up practically a four-armed Thanatar draped in a tent-sized robe from piling layers of killing augmentations onto her robotic frame housing only a brain and spinal cord.

>>54450863

Does that include all their guns?

If so you can get two of them for the cost of a single leviathan and its 23 points less than an index contemptor.

>>54450988
I can confirm that Irene is legit. It took well over a month to ship but the quality is there

Will new Indomitus models be ever released?

>>54451135
A sign that says no fun allowed

>>54451135
That tank with the Quad Mortar and a bunch of Mortar HWTs.

>>54451135
anon, I have multiple questions:
Do you have Parkinson's?
Do you live in a cave/had your electricity turned off?
Is your phone built from 2 potatoes and some copper wire?

>>54451162
200ish with guns.

>>54451189

Pretty reasonable, puts it in the same range as other fancy dreads.

>>54451161
Could probably be done with a Sicarian Infiltrator Princeps? Have one that ACTUALLY believes the holy broadcasts they transmit, rather than the killing machines the rest of them are.
Cyborg Leah Cohen with extra arms seems like a reasonable end point for a Malagra, some of them are duellists of the highest caliber with the best possible kit, some are hyper-detectives with assassination gear and some just MAGOS SMASH stuff.

>>54451120
If I pull those 2 eyeplugs out will you die?

>>54451187
Dyspraxia
2AM with minimal lights to not piss off roommate one door down
Ever hear of a "Huawei Pronto". Neither did I

>Orbital Bombardment (3cp): This Strategem can be used once per battle in the shooting phase. If you have an Adeptus Astartes Warlord that did not move during the Moment phase. Instead of shooting with your Warlord's weapons, select a visible point of the battlefield and roll a D6 for every unit within D6" of that point. Subtract 1 from the result if the unit is a Character. On a 4+, the unit being rolled for suffers D3 mortal wounds.


chads invite a big 20 man crusader squad out to play
use them to get a big melee going and bring a bunch of enemy units together

>>54449881
Aetaos'Rau'Keres

>>54451051
Green if the dude who's in it was from a battle company, bone if the dude was a member of the deathwing

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>>54451163
>>54450988

Will also confirm Irene.

Pic related is MI, though the head might actually be legion forge.

>>54451223

Save a reroll for it and you'll have slightly over 50% chance of landing that on a character.

>>54449881
Creed

>>54451223
Trust me on this, this ability is shit. In AoS there's a Sigmarine Hero that can do pretty much this with limited range every turn and in effect it's barely worth the trouble. The only way to use this is when facing an opponent who bought into MSU spam. But against several big units, you're better off using a different Stratagem.

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Preorders are up on Miniature Market if anyone cares. Shits probably going to sell out quick.

>>54449453
>At least theyre not calling legit GW sourced info as the BS for once.

>>54451262
>he doesn't take body guards

It's like you enjoy having your characters get sniped.

>>54451195
Seems like it'll be a better dakka platform than the Contemptor or box Dreads, but I wonder how it'll hold up vs Mortis Dread variants and Deredeos. Leviathans will still turn it into scrap in a single turn despite the obnoxious size of the thing.

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Reivers are hella sexy, man. Love this look.

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I think I bit off too much for my introduction to models

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>>54451135
I love I SPY
Lemme know how I scored.

>>54451291

I'm so glad they came with actual helmets. The uncapped ones are fucking retarded

>>54451299

You could have bought a SC box...

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>>54451091
GW needs to balance the GrimDark™ with humour, instead of just going all in with the ridiculous torture-fanfics that recent codices have been.

Read the Tempestus """codex""" if you want an example in addition to the terrible Skitarii fluff, you've got shit like every potential commissar-cadets being forced to execute their best friend on the last day of training, or being killed themselves, entire classes being cemented into walls to starve to death for disobedience and their skeletons left sticking out of the walls to warn the other orphans.

Because 'Nids eating your parents and being turned into a weaponised orphan in a harsh state-orphanage set up purely to produce soldiers and agents for an oppressive regime wasn't GrimDark™ enough apparantly.

Skitarii shit was dumb as hell too, from the perpetual-motion ostriches that literally never stop running (seriously, they can't even remember how to take them out of gear and let them idle, they have to stick them on a treadmill when not in use or have them running round in circles, with the rider lowered on by a crane as it runs), the Onager pilots being human-batteries that last about a week. Vanguards could have been volunteers who chose to martyr themselves for their faith, but nope, they're essentially just servitors bred for the role who have their personalities surgically removed so they don't care about anything but following the instructions the Magos tweets them via the noosphere.

>>54451299
Anon no. Do you have the receipt? Bring back everything but the robots and grab a Start Collecting box instead.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Start-Collecting-Skitarii-2017?_requestid=6101596

>>54451321
Haha he wasted so much money.

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>>54450438
Get the FW Sorc. I like most of the plastic DG but that guy sucks.

>>54451331
Why don't they just grab the ostrich walker thing and flip it upside down quickly and hold it there?

>>54451333
This please! The money you save would pay for the Robots!

>>54451124
You don't ask, you don't get. If I could afford it, I wouldn't be wasting time trying to find it for free obviously.

>>54451331

Admech gets to be super grimderp to contrast with the settings Nobledark factions. Like what happened in the newest Farsight book

I do not have the rulebook near me right now and currently on my phone. Tomorrow I want to bring GM Voldus and 5-10 paladins in a small match - is that possible? What detachment do I choose? Is unbound available in 8th?

>>54451299
>>54451333
do this if you can you'd save enough money to buy another kit like kataphrons

but if youre just starting the hobby i strongly recommend returning that and just getting the start collecting box

if you simply cant return it start working on one kit at a time to make sure you like the hobby because otherwise thats a good selection of models for a new army

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Dat foregrip.

>>54451387
Not MY tinmen. Their Magos loves them and cares for both their physical and spiritual health.

>>54451277
It doesn't seem all that powerful, but I just like that you can drop an orbital bombardment on your "battle brothers" now.

>>54451291
where'd you find that image? The pre orders arent showing on GW's website yet

>>54451433
>TACTICOOL GUISE AMIRITE?

>>54451387
Haven't read it but lemme guess...they tinkered/unearther something that was clearly evil/dangerous as shit, but still turned it on?

>>54451428
money isn't a huge concern, I'm glad i didn't choose poorly for units though

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>>54450472

I tried to put together a campaign that was kind of like this. The Imperial players had both 40k and BFG regulars on their team, likewise with Chaos.

One room of the store was for the ground war, each table representing a sector of the planet under contention, and the other room was the Void around the system and all its planets.

The ground players started with some forces on the ground - mostly IG - fighting against a Chaos and Daemon insurgency. Daemons got more numerous and reinforcements became important, but they had to "land" on the system to enter any of the tables. To do that, the reinforcements had to arrive in system and land their craft unmolested, which took coordination with the fleet. Support bombardments were also a thing.

The big trick was figuring out how best to simulate time. The ships take days or weeks even at interstellar speeds to get to the system, and ground battles go faster than that obviously. I had to make a rough judgment call on how fast ships could travel in the Void room without speeding them up too much faster than the ground room.

My estimate was pretty off, and the fleets were way too fast to really simulate an extended campaign. Ships warped in, flew all the way to the planet, and dropped off legions before even single pitched battles were resolved on the surface.

The only way to fix this would be to slow the warships down and draw their campaign out reaaaaally long - like, just looking at their ships moving through the system maybe a foot per hour in a room that was 40 by 40. It would make the BFG side of the equation comparatively boring.

>harvest spider just crawled across my fucking foot

T..th..thats ok, I wasn't planning to sleep tonight anyway.

Anyone recommend any good recent 40k books?

>>54451404
It's legal, just.
>Vanguard detachment
>HQ: voldus
>Elites: 4 paladins
>Elites: 3 paladins
>Elites: 3 paladins
If you want to run the paladins as 2x5 then that's not legal, incidentally. You need 3 elites choices for that detachment.

>>54451277

Celestant prime is worth bringing for his ability to do this alone, although granted his lands automatically and just straight up does D3 mortal wounds to everything within D6".

>>54451290

Its the premier anti single wound MEQ not-leviathan dread, above any of the mortis or deredeos.

Comparing it to a leviathan is interesting. A double storm cannon/grav leviathan will clearly outshoot it but if they each have one melee arm its a *lot* closer than I would have thought.

Against MEQs a redemptor kill 4 MEQ per turn from its Onslaughts plus about 1-ish extra from its other guns depending if its in rapid fire range or not.

A single storm array will kill 3.7, heavy flamers will add 2.33 to that but they have their own limitations.

A single grav cannon will do 4.17 wounds to a 10 man MEQ squad, pretty good.

Redemptor will do 1.85 wounds in melee, leviathan will do 2.69

So in all a 1 gun + melee leviathan ranges from about 0-30% more MEQ kills than a redemptor for costing 50% more. Obviously you get a large increase in survivability too with the leviathan, so I don't think Redemptors will be replacing them but they are very viable choices for a 200 point dread.

>>54451468
But dude, what you chose its LITERALLY the contents of a Start Collecting! Skitarri box. Youre throwing away money getting them separately. At least exchange them and use the savings on a nice paint or tool set.

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>>54451433
Dose cutoffs.

>>54451476
WAT

Still no intercessor?

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>>54449453
your digits betray your meme

>>54451489
This will also score you 4CP for the match.

>>54451447

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Space-Marines-Primaris-Reivers-2017

right here? one of the last images

pre-order shows up just fine for me

>>54451034
They lost five.

>>54450951
All the BA legions got Devastated. They were down to hundreds of marines between all of them pooled together. So feel free. That said, keep in mind that most of the BA power is in character auras that are on non-primaris characters. We hopefully will get Primaris versions of sanguinary priests and such with a codex, but in the meantime going Primaris exclusive is pretty awkward.

>>54451468
Did you get this at a GW? Did they not suggest the start collecting box?

>>54451454

There was a small population planet in a tug-of-war between tau and imps. Admech comes back to take back the colony. Marched Tau civilians to into volcanoes, and enslaved/servitorized humans.
Then some shit happens and Skitarii died by the billions to lava.

Ethereals were douchebags and tried to get Farsight killed off but Farsight is now pure noble goodness unlike the rest of the destined for misfortune Tau empire

So Nobledark protagonists and grimdark antagonists

>>54449881
THREADUS DERAILUS

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>>54451497
Too autistic to return them, I'll just live with it and be more careful in the future.

Thank you though for your advice anon

>>54451503

They can get auto bolt rifles instead of the normal ones, assault 2 S4 AP 0 rng 24". Kinda meh. We're still waiting to see if they can come with Stalker bolt rifles.

>>54449881
Marbo

>>54451523
I don't have a GW store in my town, I just ordered what looked nice online

>>54451454
IIRC the literal billions of Skitarii walk into a magma storm that kills them all because "they had no transports". Why the fuck a quantity of lava hot enough to kill about half the Earth's population would care if the Skitarii were in Chimeras rather than just slagging their tracks and crushing them was not explained.

Also, the Admech reconquered a planet from the Tau and threw all the sympathizers into volcanoes or horrible slavery, which I'm fairly certain is standard Imperial doctrine for smaller populations but was presented as a particularly horrific act. I don't think Phil Kelly likes us, bloopbros.

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Anyone know which chinaman recasts pic related?
All I can find are ones with the helmet, torso and backpack i one piece when I really just want the helmets.

>>54451028

There is mention in the Skitarii Codex of Skitarii getting promoted to Magos and above positions. These Skitarii are usually those take from more independent human stock and allowed to maintain most of their authority. They usually become Princeps and get promoted beyond; the Codex itself specifically mentions that those that come from the Rangers become paranoid and those from the Vanguard continue to need constant rad-treatments or they'll melt into black goo. Usually they'd become Magos dedicated to studying war, acting as more generals to an AdMech force.

Of course, most of them end up dead long before they reach the level of Princeps, though. Fewer still survive even that.

>>54451447
u have to switch the country selector to New Zealand as its timezone-dependant

>>54451331
cool opinion, blog about it

>>54451570
>I don't think Phil Kelly likes us

Definitely not.
The Inquisitor and some Marines too IIRC got monologues where they shit talked the admech.

To be fair, most factions get thrown under the bus, even marines based off colours. Ultras got wanked while Fists successors died like idiots.

>>54451591
>Of course, most of them end up dead long before they reach the level of Princeps, though. Fewer still survive even that.

And not a single fuck was given that day, because the Skits are fanatics or lobotomized and the Techpriests are not short of fodder and can always clone more if needed. Also, if you DO make it to Princeps you can go full General Grevious on your enemies with four arms wielding spinning Arc Mauls or Arc Pistols.

How that is not objectively fuckawesome is beyond me.

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>>54451570
>I don't think Phil Kelly likes us, bloopbros

What's not to like!?

>>54451490
That's pretty darn impressive then. Looking at the weapons load out I'm surprised the Onslaught Gatling Cannon is so strong. It basically defeats running a Contemptor-Mortis. A C-M costs what now, 160pts? So for 40ish points more you get the full guns of a C-M plus a whole extra array of weapons without losing the option to fist someone. I think we're going to see a lot of these fielded.

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I'm hammered drunk

Someone tell me what the minimum cost for each of the new spanking units is please

Funny images in return

>>54451623
>>>54451570
>>while Fists successors died like idiots.
Which ones?

>>54451618
I just did.

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>>54450820
Looking at the pictures on the store its obvious that whoever built the display models we initially saw built the legs swayed back akwardly which made the redemptor look like it skipped leg day harder than in /fit/s worst nightmare

Not saying that its perfect but it doesn't look that bad compared to the other primaris stuff like the agressors
Need to figure out how I'm going to modify and greenstuff this thing for my army. Definetely going to kitbash in a new missile rack from some hunter killer missiles instead of that little rocket pod

>>54451626

>Priceps are general greivouses

Why do we have no model