lift one of your irl ability scores to 25

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Intelligence, so maybe I can discover a cure for my crippling depression.

>>54445056
25 into Charisma because that has the only appreciable effect in our modern society.

High physical stats are pointless outside of a circus, Int is a waste because we already have all human knowledge accessible at our finger tips and Wis is only good for making me realize the futility of my own existence in a morally subjective universe.

>>54445149
This tbcaehwyf

>>54445056
>25 is a demigod.
In what edition? In 4/5 sure. In 3/2 it's more like giant strength.
>24 is 19/00

>>54445123

Either that or you will gain an even deeper understanding of how futile and pointless life is.

>>54445149
Part 2: What would you do with your 25 charisma?

>>54445056
Honestly I'd rather buy some skills than raise my base stats.

>>54445056
With 25 con, how long would that extend my natural life, and would it make me look younger then normal?

>>54445056
>14 is prodigy
bullshit nigger

18 is prodigy. 20 is absolute human maximum except in .0001% of cases such as anomalies like The Mountain or that one dude who can sprint for miles without breaking a sweat

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>>54445194
I think that is the most likely outcome

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>>54445123
But intelligence will only amplify your sorrow, anon.

I choose charisma. As the ultimate chad, I can lead humanity into the future while you wallow in schizophrenic despair.

>>54445218
It's largely accepted that the max human lifespan is 120 years. Even with insane con, aging catches up to everyone eventually

>>54445197
Same thing we do every night Pinkie.

>>54445056
Charisma. 25 Charisma, do you even know how fucking high that is by "Gandalf was a 5th level magic user" standards? That's at least 5 points higher than Napoleon "amma use the army that was sent to arrest me to reconquer Paris" Bonaparte. That's enough to book a flight to the white house, walk in and convince the entire American people to accept me as President for life.

D&D and real life have one thing in common: if your charisma is high enough, your other stats do not matter.

>>54445056
Constitution would be neat.

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>>54445149
This. Extremely attractive people, physically or thanks to their words, can get everything they want.

>>54445197
First become the president of my country, then the leader of the Glorious European Federation, and lead us towards an age of internal peace and prosperity as we crush any and all resistance apart from the Big 3, US, China and Russia. We get back to dominating the world, don't give a shit about others, and are finally free from the 3's influence.

>>54445224
This. 14 is good, but nothing uncommon.

>>54445056
Constitution, because I've got a really annoying chronic health condition putting me down to something like 7.

ITT:
>the only reason my life sucks is because I'm ugly ;_;

>>54445056

25 wisdom, achieve nirvana and write philosophical scripts that will become posthumously one of the miliary stone of modern philosophy

Live life in relative obscurity but content with my life

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>>54445123
>>54445194
>>54445228
>You now have 25 Int, but still only 8 Wis, so you're a clinically depressed nihilist, trapped in your own inescapable rationalizations with no hope of deriving personal meaning or joy in an indifferent universe
>tfw too smart to live

>>54445386
It litteraly is the case though.
I don't think I'm ugly, and I doubt many anons are, but we're just average, in the 90%. I'm white, shit beard, average face, average height, brown eyes and brown hair. I'm litteraly the average man.

Give me a better apperance any time my dude. That means a better job and a better social life. In our society, that's the be all end all of a good life. My life doesn't suck, far from it, but one's life can always be improved. You just have to learn how to take it, as an objective to achieve rather than an ideal you'll never get. Anyhoo.

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>>54445149
>implying 25 Wis leads to this

>>54445451
Nah. If you rationalize, you'll understand that thinking nihilism-way is counter-effective in most of situations. Nihilistic thinking is useful as one of approaches to consider, it's crucial step to thinking more objectively, but if anyone had 25 Int, they'd introspect and understand that rationalization is joy itself.
And as long as we are universe itself too, the only option to change indifferentness of universe toward ourselves is to take care about yourself and everyone who you consider worthy of caring. It's shit and nothing compared to vast amount of "you change nothing, bruh" given by cosmos to us, but it's the biggest impact and biggest importance we can get anyway in given time.

t. Man who would choose wis or int, because he lacks those

>>54445532
Well being very wise would have you reamise you know fuck all compared to the grand scheme of things, even more so if you widen the scale to an international, galactic or even universal one. Hard not to feel insignificant and useless when you consider that.

>>54445273
Magic is much better than charisma in DnD

>>54445691
With 25 charisma, you can convince the wizard to do the magic the way you want him to.

>>54445218
Constitution has no effect on aging, but you'd be able to eat anything, no matter how moldy.

>>54445652
16 WIS is thinking your place in the universe is insignificant, because you are so small and the world is so big.

25 WIS is realizing there is no such thing as a "place" or "significance". Things simply are. And that is alright.

>>54445691
>>54445737
Alternatively with 25 charisma you can cast quite some impressive spells yourself as a sorcerer.

>>54445056
Dexterity. You can build plethora of characters based on Dex, without any other vital main stats. A lot of interesting skills are based on Dex. Dex is just a king of physical stats.

Yeah, godlike accuracy, combat skills, reflexes, flexibility, sneakiness. All good shit and I can't really gain all that with training, unlike strength.

Wisdom, because I have a decent Int and really lack in it. Then I'll use the boost to Willpower to actually do something with my life.

>>54445645
Anon, that's wisdom. Intelligence is the cold rationality and facts as we know them; but ironically, perfectly intelligent people are also exceedingly proficient at twisting facts, spinning elaborate narratives and rationalizations that can be deceptive. That's because plenty of perfectly intelligent people lack sense. You see these people all the time; they're very smart but they just can't seem to get their lives together, or they're smart and miserable. That's because raw intelligence isn't so useful when it comes to discerning between the things that will help or harm you, and more intelligence isn't going to fix that.

That's wisdom; your senses, your intuition, your discrimination, and your honesty. If Wisdom as a stat serves any role, it's that. Wisdom is the ability to perceive clearly, to read people and the environment, distinguish friends from manipulators, and see through deception, including the most insidious kind of deception, which is self-deception. The smartest people you know who aren't also miserable probably aren't just brainiacs, they would have the Wisdom to match.

>>54446323
>Intelligence is the cold rationality and facts as we know them
>That's wisdom; [...] your discrimination

>/tg/ and /his/ are intelligence personified
>/pol/ and /int/ are wisdom personified
deepest lore!

>>54445056
>which ability score will you choose and why?
Wisdom for loners, Charisma for socialites.
Maybe Constitution if I wanted to just have fun.

>>54445386
>charisma is only physical appearance

>>54446464
ITT:
>the only reason my life sucks is because I'm ugly and drop spaghetti ;_;

>>54446527
More like
>the only reason my life sucks is because I can't make thousands worship me by just coughing

>>54446527
>charisma is only physical appearance and diplomacy checks
In about 3-4 more posts you will reach what charisma actually means

I'd choose dex, and then i'd use my powers for doing cool parkour stunts

>Take INT
>Devise a means to immortality with my newfound intelligence
>Once that's done with, devise a way to boost other stats up to 25 (STR and CON probably being easiest, followed by DEX and WIS, hardest being CHA)

It might take a hundred or more years but if you're immortal that's no big deal.

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>>54445056
Str=15. I weigh over 300lbs and I can easily crush all who stand in my path. If I went to the gym it could easily be higher.

Dex = 10. I am not clumsy and I can easily do a combat roll on the ground if I wanted to.

Con=15. I am over 300 pounds so hardly any amount of blows to my body will move me. Plenty of natural padding and shock absorbtion in a fight.

Int = 16. I know all the D&D rules across multiple editions verbatim. I can easily recall the most obscure rule or spell to apply to any situation. It could easily be higher if I ever felt the need to re-attend and finish university.

Wis = 16. I am an atheist. Given how small an amount of the world populace is also atheist, percentage wise, I believe this rightfully puts me at the better end of the bell curve.

Cha = 15. I regularly seduce many different women over many different online games through just words alone. And it could easily be higher if I ever felt like going on a date in real life.

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>>54445874
wow anon shower me in more fruits of your WISdom

>>54446774
Continuing: with an excellent stat block like this I only need to maximize Dexterity to become an ideal human being.

Wisdom. I need my will save buffed immensely

>>54445056
Constituton.

Because my families' genetics ensure me dying around 50 years old by either heart attack or cancer.

>>54446798
>When you're fat like Smough but roll like Ornstien

>>54446707
Intelligent people aren't gods, anon. Sometimes intelligence merely leads you to bump into the limitations of human ability. Sometimes the answer is "we can't".

>>54445287
You are probably a Czechshit

constitution

>>54446707
Intelligence is the the retention and accumulation of knowledge.

Unless you have an extensive education, a large grant, several hard-working peers, the savy to navigate a skeptical university board of directors and literally decades of research, followed by actual empirical experimentation. You still don't have shit going for you.

The "In a cave, with a box of scraps" meme is real and all the smarts in the world doesn't overcome scarcity.

25 Con is an interesting one. Do we assume the average person has about 6 HP? If so, 25 Con more than doubles your "health".

>>54445056
>25 is a demigod.
Pfffhahahahahaha
Dude, my barb had 46 Str W/O magic items at 12th level, he still neded 8 levels to reach demigod tier

My current 8th level monk has 24 Dex without magic items too

Cha

>>54447085
>My current 8th level monk has 24 Dex without magic items too

So what does he do with this dexterity?
Suck his dick?

>Normal person has AC 10
>25 Dex turns your AC into 17 almost doubling your chances of dodging anything
Might be a good idea

>>54446788
This anon gets it.

The only difference between the wise man and a fool is that a wise man knows he knows nothing.

Its probably the biggest downer ever to be that wise especially when you realize the truth that wisdom can't be taught or shared.

>>54447119
Punch pretty hard
>Feat that makes you use Dex to attack and damage

>>54445123
Get Charisma to 25 and you radiate that shit like a black sun of apathy. Drag everyone down to your level and be a king.

>>54447068
2 bullets instead of 1 and a 40% greater chance to overcome disease.

AMAZING!

>>54447140
Buddha shared wisdom fine.

>>54447138
Actually is a great idea, your average dude has a bonus to hit of +0. With AC 17 he only hits you 20% of the time

>>54445056
Probably Charisma.
Time to sell snake oil, become a youtube star, or maybe a televangelist.

>>54447191
Buddha was a hack.

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>>54445224
really gets the noggin joggin

>>54445287
>Not teaming up with team USA and the rest of the West.
Doomed to fail eurocuck.

>>54445056
Inteligence, just for all the free bonus languages.

>>54447377
That sounds about right. a 14 in another stat is equivalent to a 120 IQ for int.

>>54446174
Or a bard. They're full casters now and give wizards a run for their money.

>>54445056
Wisdom.
Skill is nothing without the will to use it.

>>54447377
I wouldn't call someone barely in the top 10% a prodigy

Wisdom. Mainly because Wisdom relates to willpower, and with a 25 maybe I'll actually have the motivation to do something.

>>54446851
People aren't, no, but someone with 25 INT would be.
That is smarter than Liches, Dragons (who are claimed to be significantly smarter than humans), Aboleths, timeless brain slugs that have psychic rape powers, and Illithids. In fact, thats 4 higher than a fucking Illithid Elder Brain. You would be on par with a particularly slow Mind from The Culture.

>>54447066
This is d&d intelligence, so as long as you have enough WIS to have common sense you'd be fine. In fact, just having that much INT would make increasing WIS easier.

>>54447595
I always felt like charisma should relate to willpower but whatever.

>>54447591
...and who would? What are you responding to?

>>54445149
Access to information and the ability to process it are two different things. Int, Cha, and Con all have their benefits.

>>54447644
DnD mental stats honestly don't make that much sense

>>54447659
Wasn't the point of the post I responded to that 14 int was actually an incredible feat?

>>54447659
>if you think you've got a score at 14, you're either a prodigy or delusional

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Only good answers are INT and CHA.

INT: Best shot wt living forever.

CHA: Won't live forever, but what a ride!

Rest are fun but vastly inferior:

STR: Ultra strong but unattractive just comes off as try hard. Enjoy career as a bricklayer.

WIS: Solomon was the wisest of men, and it only brought him suffering.

DEX: Congrats you're a juggler. Maybe give really good blowjobs.

CON: Oh wow I can eat moldy bread! As long as your con is average+ your lifespan has more to do with lifestyle, money, and habits ie CHA / INT / WIS.

>>54447696
No, it was just to give data that actually maps the ability values to their respective IQ scores, so a fruitless debate can finally be grounded on something and settled. I agree with you.

>>54447681
Ya, not really.
Trying to cram them in a box is bullshit
also, not giving martials some kind of advantages on mental saves and fortitude by default is also bullshit.
They should be a lot harder to disturb and falter due to the immense amount of punishment they have to deal with on almost a daily basis.

>>54447681
After 20 they basically only mean "really good at casting certain types of spells" anyway. It's not like having a high int has ever been free reign to invent whatever you want in character

>>54447713
>STR: Ultra strong but unattractive just comes off as try hard. Enjoy career as a bricklayer.
I dunno, 25 STR with at least a little bit of DEX would give you a pretty good career as a boxer/Muy Thai fighter/wrestler.

>>54447936
Not to mention being the greatest strongman of all time.
25 str is probably the tipping point where you start to be able to wrestle cars, much less people.

>>54447936
If you can't imagine a well paying career from every one of the stats being 25 you're probably just not really trying hard enough, though wisdom would probably be a bit more tricky.

>>54447713
>CON: Oh wow I can eat moldy bread!
And never get drunk, or overdose.

And have sex all night long.

>>54448113
And hold your breath longer. I imagine the biggest perk is you could be one of those rare people that lives to be 100+ while chain smoking and drinking every day

>>54447969
A 5e human with 25 STR and no class abilities or Feats can carry, as in carry around all day long with no side effects, 375 lbs and can push, lift, or drag without a strength check (as in, trivially) 750 lbs, and can make an Athletics check to lift more.

The feat Brawny doubles both numbers, and would presumably be fitting for someone with 25 STR.

The Racial "Powerful Build" doubles that again. Races with Powerful Build are 7-8 feet tall, so if you'd have it or not depends on if your apothesis includes getting hueg.

The Bear Totem doubles this a third time, though requires spiritual attunement to a bear spirit.

A Bear Barbarian Golaith with 25 STR can carry without effort 3000 lbs, and can push, drag, or lift without needing a check 1500 lbs.

>>54448080
Wisdom covers medicine in 5e so yeah. I bet someone with 25 WIS would make a great therapist too.

>>54445056
25 Con.
>infinite stamina lets me build Str and Dex the old fashioned way without my existing physical problems
>11-13 Int already and I think better innawoods or innadesert
>Cha rises as a function of Cha-dness
>Wis rises with life experience

>>54448210
All I can think about in terms of modern 25 wisdom guy is some sort of celebrity guru

>>54448080
Wisdom is also the perception and sense motive stat. You'd probably make a pretty good detective.

>>54448336
Or a super good poker player

>>54445149
>Int is a waste because we already have all human knowledge accessible at our finger tips
That's not why it's a waste. Plenty of people are still ignorant fools despite this.

Getting int higher than mid-teens is a waste because it doesn't guarantee anyone will do anything for you. You can have all the brains in the world, but unless you have a PhD or piles of grant-money, you might as well not exist as far as the scientific community is concerned.

>>54447644
Charisma is external willpower - that is, your ability to influence other people and your environment. But wisdom is what gets you out of bed in the morning.

>>54448080
>wisdom would probably be a bit more tricky.
Consultant, therapist, guru, detective, anything that relies on perception(photographer, maybe?)...

>>54445056
constitution, I can hit the gym for strength and keep going for my masters, maybe even get a bachelors in education after military service.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5cVumvzY5c

>>54445123
>he doesn't know about the positive correlation between being intelligent and being depressed
Ignorance really IS bliss.

>>54448657
I thought depression has nothing to do with intellect and is just the brain going "FUCK YOU OWNER, I'M GONNA FLOOD YOUR HEAD WITH SAD JUICE AND KEEP ALL THE HAPPY JUICE FOR ME!"?

>>54448803
You'd think so, but intelligent people are more likely to be depressed.

>>54448841
Correlation ain't causation, while I'm not going to completely disregard it I'm willing to chalk up a good part of that is smart people would be more willing to accept they have depression while a dumb person has a higher chance of being stubborn and going "nah man, I don't have depression, I'll get over it" and just not report it on a survey or whatever they used to get the data.

>>54445123
>a cure for my crippling depression
you could've just upped your wisdom/willpower instead and skipped the middle step

>>54448803
It can certainly be due to a chemical inbalance or something, but depression can also stem from being intelligent enough to see that the world's often not a very nice place and that you're probably not going to have any lasting impact on it.

>>54448885
If he thinks up a physical cure for depression not only does he get rid of it, but he also gets rich forever by curing a wide-spread issue that affects lots of people who'd be willing to pay big bucks to not have to deal with it.

>>54448978
Well from my understanding capital D "the doctor is giving you meds" Depression is the chemical stuff, and the lower case d "Life sucks man" depression is just a bastardization of the medical term for popular use, no?

>>54445123
cal .45 aspirin is a thing you know

>>54448882
Dumb people with mental issues are also likely to self medicate with booze or drugs.

>>54449004
It's not so clear cut. I'm pretty sure whether you get meds depends on how severe it is/how viable treating it via therapy is, NOT on what caused it - if indeed it can be said to have a single cause. There's a lot of factors that go into depression because brain chemistry is amazingly complicated. You can't just say "this guy is depressed because his brain is just messed up, this guy is depressed because he spends too much time alone in the dark thinking about unhealthy things", etc. People have tendencies towards depression to various degrees, but whether it manifests often depends on the environmental factors.

>>54445056
CHA. It's one of my lowest, it's also something that gives you inherent value because balls, nobody cares if you're strong or smart anymore; plus I can apply my hidden circle bonuses for social checks as long as I'm with my own people. I already do quite well once people get to know me well, it's just the first hurdle that makes it difficult, if I had that solved I'd be godly to my friends and probably start a business pulling capital from everyone I know and recruiting a guy that I know would suceed at making me lods e money no matter what.

I'd basically aim for power after that, anyone with 25 CHA could rule the world in 10 years in theory. Jumpstart the development of AI to apply in pollitics waifu applied pollitics, we don't want a basilisk event yet; energy production and geneticc engineering.

I'd be known as a great leader for doing basically nothing except inviting the world's leaders to sit down and feel safe enough to dump their bullshit act while taking them out to party in low budget genuine experiences.

I'd also be humping mad ammounts of female scientists' pussy cause I'm sapiosexual AF.

>>54445056
>14 in a stat
>difficult

lol literally just go to the gym

>>54445149
Spoken like a true weakling, physically, mentally, and spiritually

>>54450749
>he didn't even understood what he read

>>54451048
>he didn't even understood
>understood

Okay, brainlet.

>>54451077
>brainlet

stop looking at the mirror anon

>>54445197
Honestly, probably manipulate people into doing what I want. I could start a cult, but I won't go into my magical realm here. Anyone who says they wouldn't use mad charisma to pick up bitches first and foremost is lying.

>>54451107
faggot

Up my wisdom to 25 obviously.

Now I have godly willpower I can

>Study all there is to know to raise my int to 25
> Workout daily to raise my strength, con and Dex to 25 and charisma to 20
> Further boost my charisma to 25 with acting, elocution and public speaking lessons as well as forcing myself through my insane willpower to talk to people daily.

>Be a demigod in all things.

>>54451151
Wasn't charisma the stat tied with willpower?

>>54451134
Hey, I also like vaginas.

>>54451192
it's mixed. it was originally wisdom, but charisma was extended to cover "force of personality" when they introduced CHA casters. whether that's the same as willpower is anyone's guess.

>>54451250
I see, thanks

>>54448422
Motherfucker, have you seen limitless? You have no idea what max int could do. Mabye you would be smart enough to re write the human genome. Give yourself superhuman str, con, a godly physique, solve aging? Nobody would do anything for you? I guarantee if you make a portable laser rifle for the military they will set you up on an island for the rest of your life off the legal radar with anything you want as long as you keep innovating for them. Hundreds of slaves, wives to bear your super intelligent children. Or hell just clone yourself (potential usurper careful)

You have no imagination at all.

>>54447619
Pretty much this. Gain 25 INT, blaze through scientific career fast, become immortal somehow or at least extend lifespan to the point you CAN before you die, gain tech, gain bitches, gain drugs, gain ULTIMATE COSMIC POWER, invent cool sentient ships with snarky names, Sublime and chill.

If you get bored have a study of some board games and spend a couple decades as Jernau Morat Gurgeh. That book was surprisingly good for what's basically a massive board game tourney.

>>54451313
>>54451485
If 25 INT was capable of that, then how come all the 25 INT D&D people don't automatically rule the world in uncontested luxury? How come they haven't single-handedly developed their surroundings into flawless utopias?

>>54451313
maybe, but probably not. there are already thousands of scientists working on the human genome. even if your mind works 100x faster than the average human, you're not doing anything that a team of 100 scientists wouldn't be doing already. and there's only so much a single person can physically do. you need to perform experiments and shit. science involves a lot of repetition and testing and resources. these things take time.

besides, if 25 INT gives you the kind of intelligence you're talking about, then 25 CHA could just dominate the entire world and pour enormous amounts of money and manpower into the same projects without having to do any of the work themselves.

>>54451485

This implies having high intelligence is coupled with the willpower to use this high intelligence rather than fall into a deep depression and drown yourself in liquor and other comforts. You know like most people with huge I.Q's

>Cucked by wisdom again intfags

>>54451609
Last I checked, because they were competing against the equally OP monsters and gods and such. Also, there are considerably more ways to get stats up there, plus you can gain such goals then sod off into your own personal demiplane for weeks on end fairly easily.

>>54451653

I mean, there's certainly a correlation in there, but why is the ultimate result of knowing a lot of stuff about the universe and processing it quickly a depressive breakdown? There are philosophies that posit the universe is inherently valueless but we just make our own (in very simplified terms, anyway) e.g. Nietzsche.

>>54451313
>>54451485
>unironically believing in the superscientist meme

>>54446774
Nice bait, I'd change CON to "I can sit for 18 hours at my computer without standing" or something though.

Unless the implication that fat=con was part of the meme.

"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief."

- Ecclesiastes 1:18

25 int so I might stop freezing up at tests and forgetting everything I studied in the past few weeks. I certainly would need it to pass next year

>>54445056
Intelligence. Money, here I come.