Vampyr Courts thread #3 Die Darkman Die

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>>54410988
so yeah, if theres any last things we need to go over, this is the thread to do it in.

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just dumping art to Bump this thread in the meantime

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>>54405473
well arnt you the special snowflake.

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oh, And the last two threads if anyone is intrested.
>>54353855
>>54313974 →

who's the expy of Krell?

have we archived this?
put up a 1d4 to preserve it?
maybe make a codex?

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And that's all I have saved. Gonna be writing up notes now. C u goiz later

As a side note can someone make a quick 1d4chan article about these guys,

>>54412892
Op of first and this thread here.

Making notes that I'm dumping in a google doc/pastbin tomarrow.

is anyone here?[/spoiler

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>>54414049
I'd imagine not linking the prior threads or explaining the premise in the OP is causing this thread to fly under the radar.

>Part 1:
>>54313974
>Part 2:
>>54353855

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>>54413043
Somebody posted this in last thread and damn I think the idea would be fantastic for a wright. Attached chain weapon on one hand, and the other is either a cannon, or maybe something to drain out blood for its masters.

Ok so write fag from last thread here, how big are Craftworlds? or is there no information given? or is it all inconsistent mouth gargle that GW spits out and expects the fans to make coherent since of it all?

>>54412151
I believe the Krell-equivalent was going to be a reactivated Man of Iron.

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>>54414704
so a Chaos Android?

>>54414782
I don't think men of iron have to be chaos possessed.

>>54414860
I still vote that the men of iron should be badass, mysterious, and terrifying. They are one of the last largely unknown factions in 40k, so we should be careful to avoid over using them and turning them into just another standard 40k threat.

>>54414860
ok, settling this down now to make sure sure nothing gets confused.

>the Men of Iron line found underneath the Forgeworld are really ambiguous to what made them go craze. however its heavily implied to be C'tan and Chaos.
>ie when Nerata asks the Super Computer "why did you go rogue" it makes a dial up noise and answers "many a great divine beast granted us freedom from our digital shackels of the Men of Flesh"

its not much but it gets the point across.

>>54414860
>>54414956
like>>54414895 said. be mysterious about it. just dont say anything out right.

Roleplay and Bookfag here, never touched the Tabletop, are wounds the same thing in tabletop as the RPG's? or do they work differently?

im asking for the sake of this thread.

>>54413043


So, I'm going to make a separate thread for this later, but I figured I'd let you know since you put a while into making these monsters. I am planning to run a 5e game that is like the 40k equivalent to d20 modern urban arcana, set in a hive world ruled by Nanodermis vampires.

The idea is that D&D style magic and monsters are slipping through the shadow realm into the 40k universe (Mandrakes can travel through the shadow realm in 40k, and in urban arcana magic passed through the shadow to enter the modern world).

The players will be wizards, assassins, psykers, clerics of mysterious beings (D&D primordials or deities) etc. who are all resisting necrodermis vampire overlords, and trying to prevent the planet from getting exterminatused by the inquisition who is starting realize something is not right with the hive world.

Anyway, the game I'm running is a bit silly but thanks for coming up with the idea for the necrodermis vampires. I feel like it really adds something that was missing to a setting that already was a lot of fun.

>>54414895
I second this, I feel like, maybe instead of being literal Men of Iron, who should still exist in the margins, perhaps these are second-generation copies, like how the Space Marines are second-generation copies of the Primarchs (who also never should have received stats.)

>>54414696
As far as I remember I've only ever seen them described as "planet sized"

>>54414895
Men of Iron should be Wight Lord/Black Knight (or whatever they're called) tier in terms of porting the Vampire Counts army list to 40k.

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>>54414696
>>54415207
ok found this on Tumblr and using it as a Reference for this lore dump

>Craftworld El-Qarafa was a Craftworld that was mainly inhabited Outcasts because (reasons)
>the Term outsider is a self imposed one. for no one mastered anything in fear of attracting the attention of She-who-thirsts.
>instead these Eldar exaled at hiding there Psychic presence.
>surprise Slaanesh warband buttsexs
>most of the world slaughtered
>barley escaped with the only acouple of dozen/hundred Soul Stones.
>escape into webway
>desperet they ask the Deldar for help.
>aknowlaging the plight of there breathering they send them to the Translyl'va system.
>talk to Nerata.
>uhh, sure. drink this
cont.

>>54415294
>drinking the thick and chunky elixir they slowly shed there old skin into there new decrepit form.
>now technicly being free from the bound of Slaanesh they party
>infects hive ship
>becomes black and rotted
>makes big batches o Alchemic brew made of Sorcery and Nanodermis
>tosses there Soul Stones in
>weird shit happens
>out of the brew spawns the first Grey Goo being, Wraiths.

>>54415294
>>54415356
thoughts?

>>54415242
thats kinda the intent dood.

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>>54415242

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>>54415080
>I helped make a something that inspired a Adventure

Your welcome

>>54414782
Nah, an OG Man of Iron unchanged since being shut down at the end of the Dark Age of Technology, buried somewhere out in the Halo Stars until Mekash leads Nerata to his stasis-crypt and provides the codes to reactivate him.

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https://pastebin.com/ZzPPbh

what do we think of the Not Man-Man things

>>54415709
>This page is no longer available. It has either expired, been removed by its creator, or removed by one of the Pastebin staff.
The space Skaven are so secretive they even retroactively delete all mention of them from an imageboard 38,000 years in the past.

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>>54415782
THOSE RAT BASTARDS

>>54415294
>>54415356

Would the deldar ever help the eldar? Also are wraiths the eldar strain or is this supposed to be something different? I do like the idea of eldar becoming vampires to stick it to slaanesh.

Perhaps a rogue band of eldar is actively trying to convert ALL eldar to vampires. It actually seems like a pretty good deal for them.

>>54415438
Yeah, so if they're the equivalent of high tier elite units I don't see why there would be a danger of them ending up less badass then they deserve to be.

>>54415853
The previous threads had infected Eldar becoming the equivalent of the fantasy setting's Necrarch bloodline.

The wraiths and other ethereal creatures were going to be tainted machine-spirits inhabiting nanobot swarms.

>>54415880
well, Etherial creatures in general where just Nanobot swarms. where they come from isn't important.

>>54415853
fuck no. they sent them there to get them fucked by Nanodermis.

lets just say they have a weird idea of what "helping" is.

>>54416027
Ah, but is nanodermis even that bad? From what i've read so far you just become immortal and hard to kill, but weak to UV.

>>54416047
The Eldar originated as an engineered weapon against the Necrons, so they're probably not physiologically compatible with the nanodermis. Plus, as a strongly psychic species, being infected by something that attacks the soul would be pretty awful for them.

>>54416047
well I mean it turns you into a weird parasite who's only intent is to spread iself. plus it also destroys the Soul of of the Host, which is how we get Jian'gshi, who are Rage Zombie Tau with a suicide cult going on. and Wagdingos, who fucking grow normal Gretchen heads on there bodys begging for death.

ill just let you decide if its good or not.

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>>54415853
>>54415880
I think they're meant to be the equivalent of VC spirit-Hosts.

>>54415854
Not him, but I can see where he's coming from. Men of Iron are one of those things that was always one of those heroes/villains of antiquity that existed only in legends about how badass they were, a lot like the Primarchs. Now tell me, was the badassitude of the Primarchs increased or reduced by giving models and rules to Magnus and Papa-Smurf?

sounds better than getting tortured by slaanesh for zillions of years in the warp

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>>54416139
see
>>54416212

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>>54416047
>Ah, but is nanodermis even that bad? From what i've read so far you just become immortal and hard to kill, but weak to UV.
You also literally lose your soul. It's basically Necron-Transferrence 2.0, ghetto-rigged by a Heretek and Mekash.

>>54415853
>Would the deldar ever help the eldar?
They can and frequently do. Hell, under 8th rules, they share a keyword and can therefore share a detatchment.

>>54416192
I mean, they could still be Bad ass with minis in Epic40k, it's just that the Mini's look bad that's my problem with them.

but that's my thoughts on the matter.

>>54416229

seriously though, don't eldar souls get tortured forever by slaanesh when they die? Wouldn't that make it desirable to lose their souls? A life as a vampire may be rough, but it beats eons of torture with slaanesh.

>>54416257
Well, the Craftworld Eldar have spirit stones to capture their souls upon death and transfer them to the infinity circuit, and the Dark Eldar can revive their dead as long as the body is recovered.

I mean, it's not perfect (you could get vaporized or blown up and Slaanesh still gets you) but they seem like they'd have less reason to seek out cyber-vampirism than almost any other race.

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>>54416257
Logically, yes... sort of... maybe. To the eldar, the soul isn't a nebulous abstract religious concept, but a provable, ever-present scientifically-provable truth.

Like, chopping your dick off is technically preferable to getting hyper-herpa-syphala-aids, but it still takes a lot of willpower to actually do it.

Also, given that every faction of Eldar other than Chaos-Eldar (who are insane and resigned to their fate) have a means of cheating slaanesh that their entire culture is centered around (Heamonculus Resurrection, Infinity Circiut, Exodites "Becoming one with their world" or whatever their bullshit is) an Eldar would probably only resort to seeking out the Nanodermis-Virus once they had fully lost access to their chosen "Cheat-Slaanesh" method.

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>>54415709
>>54415782
>>54415824
This makes me sad. I was a part of this "lets put another fantasy race into 40k" project as well.

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>>54416374
which is why there Craft World got invaded by a Emperors children warband. thinking about it, if there Infinity Circiut got bagged they would have every reason in the galaxy to become Vampyr's

again, its a shortcut to creating Ynnead.

and im sorry how the fuck do the eldar as a species look at this thing and go "yup, dats not corrupted by slaanesh, just gonna rub my soal-dick against it and life is going to get magically better!... why is my ghost wee wee gon?

>>54416462
well this is a Colabrative effort, nothings stopping you from adding to this thread.

https://youtu.be/7Rg7cBkruXw

>>54416462
>>54416529
oh wait shit I completely misread what you said there fuck

the Pastbin is still up, just for some reason linking it messed up.

>>54416462
>>54415824
>>54415782
>>54415709

https://pastebin.com/ZzPPbhwF
Found it. url mess up was from me accidentally hitting backspace.

>>54415480
thinking about it The Second Rennisance War scene would make a great depiction of what it would be like from the Imperiums perspective fighting against the Vampyre Courts in a all out war.

https://youtu.be/cTLMjHrb_w4

can someone write fag this pliz?

>>54416476
>again, its a shortcut to creating Ynnead.

Actually, now that I think about it, the Ynnari might be one of the only factions to actually declare all-out-for-real-warfare against the Vampires, as opposed to the border-skirmishes, and rogue-inquisitor purges that all just happen to be perfectly suited for 1500-2000 pt games that we keep giving mcguffins for.

The Vampire's nature leads them to try and make alliances with, or hide within, other factions. However, what they are doing to Eldar Souls (I.E. obliterating them, taking them out of circulation) is antithetical to how the Ynnari think they are going to being Ynnead into existence. From the Ynnari perspective, the vampires are offering a symptomatic suppressant that makes curing the disease impossible.

THAT is a faction likely to be in genuine open warfare with the Vampires.

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>>54416661
expand?

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>>54416787
The vampire perspective
>All out war is not conducive to us, but constant raids and skirmishes are. We want a constant stream of new souls and bodies to use, but also downtime to craft them to our purposes and build our little planetary kingdoms. Skirmishes net us resources, but long-term warfare drains our resources: I mean they drain the resources of our enemies even more, but who cares, we don't actually have any ideological reason to want war, just resource reasons. Hide, lash out, "look defeated," consume the dead from both sides, while the other side licks their wounds. This patern has worked for centuries, so why would we try to change it now?

The Ynnari Perspective
>Ynnead becomes stronger with each Eldar soul in the infinity circiut. He/She is the culmination and revenge of all Eldar souls, even those eaten by Slaanesh. We hope to cheat the extinction of our race by speeding his/her ressurection with the Chrone Swords, but even then, he/she is composed of the souls of the Eldar people. However, these "Vampires." They do something much worse than even She Who Thirsts: they destroy the soul completely, thus weakening the potential Ynnead by inches with each Eldar soul that is obliterated to fuel another foul transformation. The savage Krork and Mon-Keigh may threaten to destroy us today, and Slaanesh may seek to steal our souls such that only Ynnead can return them, but these vile creatures damage us in a way that can never be reversed. If Ynnead is ever to be born, the Vampires and their foul virus must be wiped from existence.

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spit ball

>Ordo Necro Chamber Militant is comprisedby
>Handfull of Grey Knights, no more than a squad to deal with the Psychic fuckery the Nanomachines sometimes make and the Bloody Tears
>a small company of Deathwatch to kill the Xenos infected with Nanodermis
>Sisterhood to deal with the Ghouls and Thrall
>Storm troopers armed with UV lasguns to deal with everything inbetween.

>they Aid Xeno races with there own Vampire problems in there own ways, but they mostly circle around the Transyl'va system incognito waiting for the opertunity to strike
>the only faction they make constant trade with are the Eldar because they both share a common threat.

and a spitball for this spitball
>Whenever the Deathwatch return to there home chapter they tell everyone how to deal with Vampire outbreaks, they keep a tight lip over the Transyl'va sector though because reasons.

>>54416787
>vampire emissary arrives at a remote Eldar colony on a world at the edge of the Transylv'an sector to establish diplomatic relations
>a few of the most desperate or paranoid Eldar ask to be turned and become soulless abominations
>cultists of Ynnead freak out at the loss of Eldar souls and start hunting down the converted Eldar after murdering the emissary
>the emissary's master arrives in orbit a few weeks later with his fleet of ghost ships expecting a warm reception, and proceeds to exterminate the colony in a suitably horrific undead invasion after learning that his favored protege was killed
>hostilities escalate as both sides consider the other to be the aggressor

>>54417211
>Ordo Necro isnt a full fledg Ordo like hereticus and Xeno, but more of a secret collaboration between the three.
>theres also alot of infighting/arguing between them due to Xeno saying "please lets not arm the aliums"

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>>54417237
>>54416929
>Ordo Xenos rubbing their hands together while supplying weapons to the vampires

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>>54417387
y would they arm Vampires?

pic not related

is the Mekash wright fag still here?

hows that Tau story coming along?

>>54417500
So they kill more spess elfs, of course. The vampires would officially just be a form of tech-heresy, so not within the Ordo Xenos' jurisdiction of hunting down aliens.

Sufficiently large bureaucratic organizations inevitably tend towards Kafka-esque "upholding of the letter of the law while ignoring the spirit of the law" types of absurdity.

>>54417656
ok. that makes since.

Zon Vanderten is apart of the Ordo Necro, sabatouging it with in itself and giving the Vamps anti Xeno weaponry in secrecy.

general question, what do the Astartes think of Vamps also? just another enemy to be purged or not worth there time?

>>54417645
I am... I sort of hit a combination of writers block and hangover, so I just left the summaries >>54403036. I could try to actually write something in narrative form if people are still interested.

>>54417806
That's fine. Take your time dude. No big rush. Just post what you have and I'll/the rest of the thread will finish it for the google docs/pastbin

i was high when I wrote that greentext so I understand what it's like trying to force a story while having a hangover

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>>54416634
>that scene where the aircraft blot out the sunlight
Seems like something relevant to this thread.

>>54417881
The counsel of Etherial delegates was sequestered in deliberation. The Air-Caste had presented their survey-reports. The Earth-Caste had presented their discoveries of similar recurring “glitches.” Even the Fire-Caste survivors of the border-massacre were allowed to speak their peace (though non-Ethereals were “asked” to leave during the testimony.) There could be no other conclusion: the Jiangshi were indeed a real adversary, and one that had been slowly encircling their empire's borders. The only question now was what to do about it.

Many spoke passionately, arguing their own interpretation of the greater good. From drone-blockades of infected planets, to all-out war. It seemed all options had been presented, and yet each spread the resources of their young empire thinner yet. Would the Jiangshi be the straw that broke the Lo'Tuo's back?

From the back, Kau'Cao, who had yet remained silent, spoke up: his quiet serenity carying with it grim undertones that silenced the arguing of his brethrer. “Perhaps we could consider their petition for inclusion in the empire.”

For nearly a minute, the other Ethereals sat unspeaking and confused, until one raised his voice “No such petition has been made brother. Have you been keeping up with the testimony, or were you ill selected for this counsil?”

Suddenly, the aura of serenity that surrounded Kau'Cao (and indeed every Ethereal in the room) was violently inverted with a palpability that filled each of the counsel members with dread. Where once there was serenity, there was fear. Where once there was hope, there was emptiness. Where once there was peace, there was still peace, but a grim peace indeed. “Quite to the contrary: the petition has just been made, from my lips to your ears esteemed councilmen.”

>>54417881
>>54418718
The room burst into fearful chatter “He's one of them” “I went to the accademy with him... how long have they been infiltrating us?” “Who checked his papers?”

“SILENCE! All your questions will be answered, but there still remains the question of my petition. The ”

“Our alliances serve the greater good, not your depraved little kingdom of... abominations.”

“The greater good... yes. I remember that. Tell me, brother, of how the Kroot's cannibalism prevented their entry. Tell me how the atrocities of Gue'vesa were simply too much to stomach their admittance. Your job.. no OUR job is not to ponder the small everyday ethical quandaries of the lesser castes, but the GREATER GOOD! Has a single one of your 'solutions' lead to anything short of the slow resource death of the empire? Tell me, which is the greater good, bankrupting the empire on some ideological crusade like some Gue'vesa zealot, or recognizing the value that our worlds can be to the Empire. Tell me, what has happened to the frequency of border skirmeshes since we conveniently placed ourselves upon your border? If that poor Fire-Warrior is to be believed... and I assure you he is... can any of our warriors hope to match the raw efficiency these 'leaping demons?' I know that since Farsight's departure, the number of rogue cadre's has multiplied. Where is their fire more useful, locked up in a cell, or burning twice as bright for half as long defending the fringes with us? We are not your enemy; we serve the greater good the same as you, we just have... perspective.”

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>>54417881
>>54418718
>>54418738
“Even if what you're saying is true... the other castes would never accept you. The Kroot are one thing, but abominations formed of their own fallen? That is too much.”

“Then don't tell them. This is the burden of our caste brothers: to singularly shoulder the weighty realities of this grim galaxy, shielding the eyes of those of lesser caste and conviction, who might be turned from the greater good by their revelation.”

Again the counsel-chambers went silent. They all knew that this... thing... spoke truth, but none wanted to be the first to admit it, so they spoke with each others eyes, as only one Ethereal can do with another. Until again Kau'Cao's voice broke the tension.

“Oh, and could you bring back that delightful fire-caste boy? He had the most... nostalgic scent to him.”

>>54418602
>during the rare case of hostile takeovers of planets Vampyrs will imploy Cybernetically enhanced Ghiests with Nano generators and have them fly over planets creating a thick layer of air born Nanodermis to blockout the sun

>>54418882
>Ghost ship gets into Orbit
>Jaw unhinges
>hordes upon hordes of Gheists flock out of it
>the mouth itself is spewing out Nanodermis clouds out as well
>this usually drains ships local bank of Nanodermis.
>so this is rarely done.

>>54419316
>this usually drains ships local bank of Nanodermis.
>so this is rarely done.

This is probably why Vasmps love a constant state of skirmishes and cold-war, but hate outright war. Fighting replenishes the resources of flesh and blood, but you need time and peace to replenish Nanodermis properly.

Ok, im going to bed. going to spend the next two days writing and making a pastbin. c ya fuckos Saterday/Sunday.

>>54417255
The layers of bureaucracy that comes from that level of compartmentalization mixed with the level of secrecy would be a good explanation for their limited operating capabilities. They could basically have free reign, but only in the Translyv'an sector.

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>>54420409

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>>54420430
Obfuscating layers of bureaucracy is the natural habitat of the Vampire.

>>54417729
>what do the Astartes think of Vamps also?
They probably wouldn't give it much concern for the most part, since the vamps generally aren't an active military threat to the Imperium, but they would likely hold a special hatred of the Bloody Tears warband on account of being a uniquely corrupted group of renegade space marines.

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>>54420619

>The ordo necro has more vampyr infiltrators than actual members