Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1621: Fresh From The Bakery Edition

>>54407213
None of the Companion-related scenarios will grant CP, however I will be adding "forfeit reward for CP" to a few I have now and to all future ones. The ones I have done so far are:

>Hellscream's Future (do a thing about Garrosh)
>After The End (BAD FUTURE IS BAD)
>Linken's Quest (Old quest chain turned up to 11)
>Arena Champion (Gurgthock's arena questlines: Ring of Blood -> Amphitheater of Anguish -> Crucible of Carnage ->Arena of Annihilation -> Gorian Proving Grounds)
>You Awaken In Razor Hill (let's see how many people get THIS old thing)
>Her Tallest (help Boss Mida Silvertongue come to rulership of The Bilgewater Cartel over Jastor Gallywix)
>Sons of Barov (help Alexi or Weldon kill the other remaining Barovian Brother to become the sole inheritor of Barov Industries - or rather, the remnants of it)

got a few more in the works besides that.

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Reminder that fun is banned by fiat.

>>54408185
You can't force me not to have fun, Superman! I'll have fun even if I shouldn't be able to. You'll never comprehend my genius. Also why are you holding a gun and wearing bunny ears? Are you high or something? Am I high? How can our eyes be real if mirrors aren't real?

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I want to be the Holiest being, what perks/races/items do we have that would let me accomplish this?

>>54408217
Jumpchain is inherently sinful.

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Is the Dragonlance or World of Warcraft Death Knight better?

>>54408217
If you want to make sure that you're truly holy, INSIDE and out, use Helena's nail from Hellsing alongside an Angel alt-form.

>>54408185
Why should I trust someone from the dominion tank police to tell me the truth?

>>54408260
Just take both and be a Double Death Knight

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I did a thing.

Comments, criticism, etc... welcome. I'm not sure if the balance works.

>>54408217
First off, get any and all Angel options you can. Then grab all the White Mage/Cleric type options, and all the Paladin ones.

Find some way to absorb holy energies into your blood or even be made of them.

Don't forget to use perks to slowly rewrite yourself into a being of pure Good!

>>54408045
You know, there's something funnily ironic when you're the last person to post on a thread before it gets archived; if only I'd waited a couple minutes more...

So anyway, how do my improvements to the jump look?

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>>54407168
>Re: Valkyrie Cores
Can you import something like a Kamen Rider transformation item with Armor Import? And could you import magic armor just so long as it is power armorish enough?

>>54408150
>You Awaken In Razor Hill
Will we get a bunch of voices in our heads telling us to do stupid shit?

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>>54408374
Sorry, I forgot to attach the jump!

>>54408150
>You Awaken In Razor Hill

>Pyramid Hogger

Nope. Nope.

Fuck that. Nope. NOPE.

>>54408132
Bread-chan did nothing wrong

Gas the tsun, dere war now

>>54408217
depends on what you count as holy. do all angles/gods/heavens count, even in settings where heaven is a dick, like in spawn/shimi gami tensai?

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>>54408150
>Sons of Barov
>no option to kill both and forcefully take over Barov Industries

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>>54408407
I feel this gif describes what you want to say.

>>54408352
Ho boy. Expect REEing.

>>54408352
Could we get a 0CP drawback to make the series be done with Charlton Comics characters like the initial proposal had it, before DC decided they'd rather integrate those characters into the main universe? Like Captain Atom instead of Dr. Manhatten, Thunderbolt instead of Ozymandias, Peacemaker instead of Comedian, etc.

>>54405891
That's pleb-tier desu

You erased the bigoted pureblood identity that would've had a problem sleeping with Muggle men. What you should have done is persuaded her to indulge in such activities while fully in control of her faculties, then she'd feel horribly ashamed and debased every time she walked on set.

>>54408418
Dere war you say? Who are our generals?

>>54408150
>You Awaken In Razor Hill (let's see how many people get THIS old thing)
I get it. That was a good...not sure what I'd call it. Quest, I guess, but it had more in common with stuff like MSPA than typical forum games. I liked it. It was far more funny, awesome, and heartwarming than anything that began as a dumb Silent Hill in Warcraft parody should ever have been.

>>54408374
>>54408397
It looks good to me, but I don't really know anything about the setting.

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So Marvel Jumps, I feel sorry for those who have Modern era. The Maker (Ultimate Reed Richards) just merged the Multiverse together. So there's now multiple earths/milky way galaxies in same universe.

What did /JC/ do in the Marvel Jumps?

>>54408471
Sure, though they obviously won't be integrated into the DCU. More drawback ideas are always welcome.

>>54408459
It's /jc/, I know what to expect.

>>54407934
>looking at the audience reaction omakes
>Bread-chan can kill Servants. Discuss.
>mfw Anna would probably end up a Heroic Spirit

>>54408555
>Sure, though they obviously won't be integrated into the DCU. More drawback ideas are always welcome.
Wasn't expecting them to be. The idea would be that it would still be a separate Charlton Comics universe. But thanks for accepting the idea.

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If Val is out there, for the NieR: Automata jump, can you build more YoRHa units with the scenario reward and add them to the mass companion slot?

>>54408545
Did the extra sections in the Notes help at all? I'm trying to clarify things for people confused about the setting, but since I'm already familiar with it I sometimes miss what puzzles other people.

>>54408435
That's the joke tho, anon.

Barov Industries is defunct, destroyed, worse-than-bankrupt.
Nobody would want it aside from these two.

>>54408393
Yes.

>>54408407
Yeeeeeeeees

>>54408515
In full agreement, the entire thing was amazing.

For people unaware of wtf we're talking about: http://thelittlestmurloc.tumblr.com/post/39069990648/part-1 it's been archived

>>54408551
>merged the Multiverse together
Wasn't this literally the plot of the Secret Wars event they JUST had?

>>54408594

Val is a aussie with a Aussie computer and Aussie internet, Check back later

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What are some of the best jumps to learn how to build a civilization? an empire?

Honestly im just in it for the innovation perks on a large scale, but I can do whatever has some neat stuff.

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>>54408640
Yes. However in the end status quo was back for most part. Doctor Doom became Iron Man after Tony died/fell into a coma/became an AI. Also he's the future Sorcerer Supreme or a future or current Sorcerer Supreme of another Earth. Its very confusing now.

>>54408610
>Did the extra sections in the Notes help at all?
Yep, I think the jump does a good job at explaining what's what. I just meant that I'm not an expert on Bone.

>>54408319
Why would she lie when Bonaparte is in the picture?

>>54408594
Val was up extra late and only went to bed a couple hours ago, she'll likely be on later this evening.

>>54408352
Some of the limitations to powers, like only being able to manipulate non living matter with I Have become Death and only having four bodies with Self-Willed Prescence are arbritrary and non-canon. Which makes them unattractive compared to the powers that aren't nerfed. Is there a reason for that?

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Tell me about times when the common man turned against your jumper, and why.

>>54408729
Not him but considering you need to buy the powers he demonstrates, probably not.

>>54408680
Civilization, surprise I know. That's basically what you're incentivized to do there though and you get in a lot of practice if you opt to pay for the earliest possible time.

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>>54408728
>Val was up extra late and only went to bed a couple hours ago

Oh Nubee you stallion you

>>54408680
Light of Terra is surprisingly good for it, the second part has a ton of civilization-building perks. Civilization is also a good place to go, obviously.

>>54408150
What's not done yet in scenarios?

>>54408352
All those anti-precognition and anti-destiny perks I have are going to mess with Osterman something fierce.

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>>54408352
Oh! Awesome! I always loved Watchmen. Let's see. I'll type as I read.

>Intro:
Your intro could use a little work. The second and third paragraphs are basically long run-on sentences. Maybe a little more about the other major players of the time. Like the Nixon Act declaring superheroes illegal or Ozymandias as a titan of industry. We don't need a complete history lesson, but there are a few details people really should know before hopping in.

>Timeline:
This is not a bad way to handle locations for a Jump that mainly takes place in one spot. I would suggest stating more specifically where you start though. Or at least add in a note that says you always begin in New York.

>Background:
>In addition to choosing...
That should really read:
>You may choose your gender for free.
The rest of the line is unnecessary.

I would also suggest adding a little bit more flair to the Backgrounds. They don't have a lot of tone or flavor to them, and there's a lot you could do with each.

>Perks:
There's a couple of spelling and grammar errors that are scattered around this section. Not too bad, but you might want to run through them again.

Can't Change Human Nature seems oddly worded to me, but I can't put my finger on just what I find wrong with it.

Thermodynamic Miracles is really well done.

Legacy might cause a few issues with it referencing other Jumps. It doesn't really seem worthy of a capstone as it stands anyways.

I Am Paggliacci doesn't really need the references to Jumps at the beginning of the second sentence. It works fine without that needing to be pointed out.

Gordian Knot - I really feel there's a better way to word this without it sounding so meta.

You're Just a Man - Same complaint as above.

>Companions
Could we get a bulk purchase price for Companion Imports? Spending 800 CP to import everybody is a bit much. Mostly anymore it's 50 or 100 CP each and 300 or 400 CP for all eight.

[1/2]

>>54408729
You'd need more CP than the Jump allows to get to his level.

>>54408753
>Is there a reason for that?
Balance.

The "non-living matter" thing isn't entirely arbitrary, it's mentioned by Veidt that teleportation just makes the object explode without Jon's mind to guide how things go. I extrapolated from here, taking the idea that Watchmaker is for precision and I Have Become Death for raw power. You can blast people apart with just the second one, though maybe the text isn't clear enough.

The four bodies thing is an arbitrary limit. I can remove it if people won't assume it's too broken.

>>54408352
>In addition to choosing for no CP with gender you enter this world as, you also has to choose which kind of superhero you happen to be:
*which gender?
*also have?

>Fearful Symmetry
Can other people notice how the world changes around me, with the post-jump function?

>insights into just what his wrong with them, conceptually and maybe
even psychologically.
*what is wrong?

>without causing too much unfortunate consequences in the process.
*too many?

>Edge
>The fans will post on internet forums about how you're so much better than these goody-two-shoes and a mature hero for mature people.
Thank you for making this part of the perk. THANK YOU.

>You're Just A Man
Hmm. Would this apply to SMT humanity's poorly explained ability to "observe" beings of faith and reduce their powers?

The fact that Post-Humans can not actually purchase all of their powers bothers me. The "misaligned floor tiles" type of bother, not the "I think the jump should be changed" bother, mind you.

Saga Frontier Jump
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L0zJ6bmnVpwpjFZbwr7MGE5daA_-CJjRGENh3W19Ve8/edit?usp=sharing

This time with more kicking and screaming from patients!!

>>54408759
Danny Phantom was one, due to me being a Ghost. Seriously, even when I helped I still had people screaming and panicking. At least Danny and his friends were cool. Stranger Things was another, seeing as people freaked out about me having weird powers, though I ended up becoming friends with Eleven and her new friends, seeing as she also had 'freaky' powers.

In general, there were a lot of worlds were normal people were scared or freaked out by me, causing them to turn on me, but in those same worlds I could usually count on the protagonists having my back when I needed it. Which is why I went out of my way to help them and make their lives easier, because they were willing to help me out, and they deserved it.

>>54408928
make it a pdf and post it to thread.

>>54408928
Oh, I remember these games. They were fun. Had a lot of variation in each character's scenario, this is a world that can do pretty much any genre. Should make for a fun world to adventure through.

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>>54408680

This is my last list for today since I made to many lists for lazy anons

Act Raiser
Anno2077
Alpha centari
Civiliization
City skyline(Gauntlet just released it last night)
Light of Terra
Neptuinia (has perks that allow you to be a leader of your nation)
Stellaris

There are more but I don't want to go through all that trouble right now anon

>>54408352
>Post-Human
Wew, lad. You an SBer?

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>>54409014
It's really funny to me how we've got people in this thread complaining about how it's not strong enough, and people in this thread complaining about how it's too strong.

>>54408352.
>>54408908
>This is not a bad way to handle locations for a Jump that mainly takes place in one spot.
I have to disagree. Normally, you start in a location you don't want, to just go somewhere else. Or if there is more than one location you want to be, go to both. Timeline locations are bad because they are mutually exclusive unless the setting is about time travel.

>>54409034
He does that "You an SBer?" shit for every jump, powerful or not. Pay his shitposting no mind.

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Holy shit, we went through 10 threads in 4? days.

What did i miss? I've been on a mountain for the past week.

>>54408924
So you could eliminate that 'non-living' bit by taking both Watchmaker and I Have Become Death? You might want to mention that and the blastyness. And having more bodies doesn't seem seem like it would be broken.

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>>54409080
Some anons went delving for the pastebins with that It's Always Sunny jump, and I put it together into a PDF.
I hope the jumpmaker comes back and gives permission for it to get imaged, because it's a fine jump, and the mock-up imaged page looked damn good.

>>54409080
Jumpers started coming back to Earth to tell us about their adventures while filling us in on the journey. As a result, the Jumpchain thread has become the international center of negotiations with the new hyper lords. This perfectly explains why we're going through new threads so quickly. Don't let the deceptive number of posters mislead you, one of the Jumpers once set it to "applesauce" for an entire hour before someone took action.

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>>54408352
>>54408908
>Items:
Rorschach Test - Not really sure this should come with a guarantee that you know the other person is lying.

Drop-In Items are pretty overpriced in general. Comics are really only worth 100 CP and the Journal 200 CP, especially given the randomness of Journal.

Tell-All Book - Okay, this shit is hilarious.

Arsenal - Take out that second bit about being able to find improvised weapons. It has turned into a perk with that addition.

Mask - Holy shit what?! This thing is nuts. Tone it down a little.

>Powers
Considering the price tag for all of this, I can't really complain about the amount of power you're handing out. I feel like I should, but I won't.

>Drawbacks:
No real complaints here. Pretty well done and thematic too.

>>54409024
Oh boy. Don't really know anything about the setting or else I'd comment on it, but it looks... interesting.

>>54409053
It says you can freely pick the one you want. That's literally the first line of the section.

>>54408928
I think the way Affinity is laid out is pretty pointlessly meta desu. Just letting you choose an affinity for an in-setting race every jump should be fine, instead of having a perk that makes you do well with certain beings suddenly apply to things like teachers, or wizards, or spies, or- you get the idea.

I'm not sure why Cannibalize lifts the acquisition limit post-jump. Or has it in-jump, if you want to think of it the other way. Does this give stuff like "hunting" and "the newest GPU drivers", or would it apply to the various spells and natural abilities JRPG monsters so often have.

...I understand limiting Free Jump System so you can't just postpone the entire plot to powerlevel, but what the hell is up with a 1d10 ending up with Jump-Chan empowering your enemies?

>>54409053
I think it's fine, since you can choose when you arrive without actually paying anything.

>>54408908
>writing tips
I have a pretty awkward way of writing and I'm not a native English speaker, but I'll see what I can do.

>Location
Sure. Didn't think it was necessary to precise it.

>Legacy
Not sure what you mean by "issues", it's really about going from fanboy to successor, and developing the abilities to match.

>Companions
Sure. How about 100 for one or 400 for eight?

>Can other people notice how the world changes around me, with the post-jump function?
It's not intended to work that way, but you do you.

>Thank you for making this part of the perk. THANK YOU.
I aim to please.

>The fact that Post-Humans can not actually purchase all of their powers bothers me.
I don't really see how the Jump could be balanced the other way.

>>54409034
It's Watchmen, the gap in power is between a tentative "god" and people with a good training regimen. The balance was always going to be delicate unless you just don't allow people to be Discount Manhattan.

>>54409053
I just figured some people would want to hang around the Minutemen. though I can probably make this a +0 CP drawback.

>>54409104
If you say so.

>>54409165
>Items
Yeah, they're pretty unbalanced for now. It's hard not to go too meta for the sake of balance.

Thanks for the review.

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ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO JOIN THE BROFORCE!?!

All these jumps dropping at once, we in this boys

>>54408352
The 600 CP you pay for being post-human doesn't seem to actually do anything.
Id drop the Post-Human CP cost to 400 CP, and make the first pick in the powers section free.

>>54408686
There's a reason why I have no plans of jumping comic jumps.

>>54409260
>I just figured some people would want to hang around the Minutemen.
No, it's my fault. I didn't see you could choose time period freely. It's fine.

>>54408863
>Depth Charge (Pacific Rim-ripoff with teams of goblin, gnome, and dwarf steam warriors vs sea giants and naga abominations)
>Alemental Havoc (Stormstout Brewery isn't the only place these booze-borne elementals have spawned and caused chaos)
>Primeval (Oh look a giant fucking kaiju hydra stomping out of Zul'farrak and it's getting stronger the more damage it takes)
>Master Fisherman (win the Stranglethorn and Kalu'ak Fishing Tournaments, culminates in massive fuck-off kraken)

These are the ones planned, at least. Have ideas for a few others but nothing concrete as of yet.

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>>54409315
Yeah, no kidding. It's crazy town in here. I just wish Night in the Woods was complete enough to drop a WIP of. But I've still got a lot of tone to fill in.

The skeleton is pretty much complete, except a few holes, the intro is fully written, and I'm almost done writing the Backgrounds. The Drop-In Tree is giving me trouble, but it usually does.

>>54409260
Glad I could help.

Okay, doing some rough calculations for a scheme of mine. Start with a Tyranid swarm that ate the entire galaxy during the scenario and converted all mass into more Tyranid flesh. Its mass is therefore 2.983e43 kilograms.

The Unicorn Gundam is one of the few full-psychoframe mobile suits in the Universal Century setting. It masses at 23.7 metric tons, unloaded. Assuming that I could maintain the same ratio by mass of biological psychoframe analogue in my Tyranids (built into them through the use of The Flesh Is Strong from Hive Queen Quest), that would make the psychic amplification of my swarm 1.25e38 times higher than that of the Unicorn.

Now, here's where I'm having trouble figuring out what that means. Because Banagher wasn't a very strong Newtype, but with the Unicorn he was able to pull off some impressive feats. Under his command the Unicorn was able to block 1/3 of the Gryps II Laser (with the other 2/3s being blocked by the Unicorn's psychoframe-enhanced shield pods and the Banshee Gundam). The Gryps II Laser was meant to be strong enough to destroy a space colony, so it should be pretty powerful. Let's say for the sake of easy calculations that it was exactly a megaton of energy release, 4.184e15 joules.

So that would mean a psychic with Banagher's level of power would be able to handle an energy load of (1/3)(4.184e15)(1.25e38) Joules with my swarm's enhancement, or about 1.75e58 joules. The gravitational binding energy of the Earth is 2.487e32 joules. Thus, Banagher would be able to shatter seven hundred million trillion Earths at once with this level of augmentation.

A jumper doing this would certainly be even stronger. For one thing, they'd be able to access the non-psychoframe psychic power the Tyranids are passively generating, too. For another, they'd likely start out much stronger than Banagher would. Ultimately it doesn't matter. I think this is well into the region of OMG HAX levels of biggatons. I think I'm good.

>>54409371
>>Depth Charge (Pacific Rim-ripoff with teams of goblin, gnome, and dwarf steam warriors vs sea giants and naga abominations)

This sounds hilarious.

>>54409318
It gives you an alt-form with no biological needs, and allows access to the section.

>>54409199
I was thinking more natural abilities. In Saga Frontiers spells work slightly differently as they aren't necessarily inherent unless you got a gift for it...and few feral monster enemy do. as for me limiting it in jump and giving you more post jump is because in game you are limited to only one monster skill and you can lose it if you take on another. But the goal is to become a god(Planeswalkers are god+) why not release the reigns a bit.

as for the 1d10 nothing just should be without cost or it isn't fun...if their is a chance my power could strengthen my enemies people would (at least I would be relucant to use it all the time)

>>54409379
Are you still working on Divinity - Original Sin?

>>54409318
Post-Human by itself gives eternal youth and removes your bodily needs. It's part of the background, not one of its perks. I kinda agree the background isn't terribly riveting for its price, but it's also the only way to get actual superpowers. Considering Watchmen actually tries to stick to real life with its peak humans instead of having people throw shields hard enough to cut through tanks, or kick down steel doors, I can accept it.

>>54408032
>the Booty Wizard!

Maybe I should also take that CYOA as a jump supplement. I love anal

>>54409024
The formatting in this jump is not good, and even after reading through the whole thing I still don't what's supposed to be happening even though there are supposed organizations and people everywhere. You have even more meta things in here than a SJ-chan jump, and mentioning jumpchan every several paragraphs is just awkward.

>>54409379
Make Drop-In the Lovecraft perk line. Do it.

>>54408925
>Hmm. Would this apply to SMT humanity's poorly explained ability to "observe" beings of faith and reduce their powers?
SMT humanity is pretty damn magical in its relationship to Demons and the Collective Unconscious, so I'd say no. That's assuming you're yourself a "being of faith".

>>54409318
>The 600 CP you pay for being post-human doesn't seem to actually do anything.
It's supposed to be prohibitively expensive to get to the good stuff later. Also >>54409415

>make the first pick in the powers section free.
Maybe telekinesis for free? The boost to other powers is almost worth 400 CP by itself, and flavor-wise it works better as a precision boost.

>>54409379
Why is it giving you trouble when this should be a gauntlet and being one is irrelevant?

>>54408352
I was under the impression that Manhattan didn't have telekinesis, he instead manipulated the four universal forces?

>>54409481
Yes, which means he has better than telekinesis.

>>54409396
>It gives you an alt-form with no biological needs
>>54409415
>Post-Human by itself gives eternal youth and removes your bodily needs. It's part of the background, not one of its perks.
Ok, that is worth 100-200 CP, but the 600 CP cost to unlock a powers section is not, since the powers have their own CP costs.

>>54409297
>Citizen of the Flag

>Combat Experience (100)
>Sabotage (300)
>Bag of Tricks (700)
>Brass Balls (free)
>Mundane Skills (800)
>Improvisation (1000)
>Plus all the free stuff
Is this any good? Sort of a "can do a lot of stuff" build.

>>54409516
>that is worth 100-200 CP
Uh, no, eternal youth alone is worth 600 CP in a setting where just about everyone is a mundane human.

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>>54409409
Yeah, I'm just giving it a bit of a break. The last time I posted it to see if people liked the way I was doing the magic system, I got literally no responses. So I lost some of my motivation to push through the massive amount of writing I was doing for it.

Night in the Woods is basically me fanboying over an atmospheric, charming little game to get my creative juices flowing.

>>54409451
Like there was any other choice for the Drop-In line. I'm just trying to dig up tidbits to turn into perks. We /really/ don't get a lot of the spooky stuff. Except that one guy who can walk through walls. And you /know/ that's in there already.

I've almost got enough for double perk lines.

>>54409465
I'm sorry, I'm a little deaf in this ear. Maybe try speaking a little louder and making some sense?

>>54409517
I'd theme that build as an inventor, like Q but able to go into combat. Pretty awesome! You could give Macbrover a run for his money like this!

>>54409500
Yeah? I was just wondering if the buyable powers were like that or what.

>>54409516
You clearly haven't read the series.

>>54409545
>The last time I posted it to see if people liked the way I was doing the magic system, I got literally no responses
Why don't you try pitching it over on [/spoiler]SB[/spoiler]? If you don't get that much feedback on the jump here there's probably people there that'll still give you feedback.

>>54409545
>I got literally no responses
Had to be because I wasn't there. Mind posting that WIP?~

>>54409593
Clearly from SB, not knowing how to spoiler that suggestion.

>>54408352
So Watchmaker + Self-Willed Presence lets you survive complete atomisation like Manhattan without it counting as death and ending you chain unless someone attacks your mind/soul or uses some esoteric or magical effect?

>>54409260
I'd really appreciate another 300CP drawback and/or a way to actually buy all powers. I've got really hard autism about not getting "everything" of something, so having to leave out one power hurts my soul. Besides, to get enough CP for all them them you'd have a really fucking shitty time anyway.

>>54409567
>Feedback from the author
I feel so validated!
That's pretty much the kind of theme I was going for, yeah. I'm half tempted to take the Scrawny and/or Weak Voice drawbacks too and maybe go with a "nerd" theme.

>>54409573
>You clearly haven't read the series.
Doesn't matter how powerful Manhattan man is. Paying 600 CP doesn't make you him. Doing nothing is not 400 CP, it is 0 CP.

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>>54409604
Yeah, sure, I don't mind. I've got Aeromancy completed and Geomancy all but. Literally just the last spell to write up.

Magic starts on Page 27.

>>54409593
[unenthusiastically] Help. Police. Murder.

>>54409661
It's a setting with vanilla-humans only (besides Doctor Manhatten) so biological immortality + no physical needs is worth a few hundred CP for sure. I'd drop it to 400 though, 600 seems a bit much.

>>54409664
I mean, it's not like they're useful for anything else. At least you can patch some loopholes before they become an issue.

>>54409661
>>54409677
Eh, gotta agree 400 is probably better.

>>54409540
>Uh, no, eternal youth alone is worth 600 CP
Well, If we are doing it like that, being a glowing blue freak is worth -400 CP.

'Eternal Youth' might be worth 600 CP if it could be applied to others like the fountain of youth or philosophers stone. Otherwise you are just some variety of Sfi-Fi elf.

>>54409664
Huh. I must have missed you asking that question, and I'm sorry for doing so, because I very much like the way you're handling the magic system. It's good stuff. I like how you've got sub-paths focusing on different interpretations of each magic's theme, makes for good customization. Is your air magic embody the freedom of the wandering breeze or the fury of the storm? You decide. That's cool.

>>54408352
Do you have to be in glowing blue dong man form to use the powers you buy?

>>54409643
Well I'm here and I Saw your post so why shouldn't I?

And that would be awesome dude! Go ahead! Heck, if you're not planning on taking many of the larger drawbacks why not take both?

>>54409481
>>54409500
I don't remember this being explicitly stated. Maybe with training, you can wank that you get to that level. Telekinesis is a simpler concept to explain and balance.

>>54409540
To be honest, eternal youth isn't that big of a prize when you keep reincarnating every 10 years and when there are dozens of vampire options in the chain.

>>54409626
Yes. Is that too powerful?

>>54409628
>>54409677
I'm not opposed to the ideas on principle, just very cautious about making Post-Human even more attractive than it already is.

>>54409750
No. Altform-only powers are shit.

>>54409664
We get to be Sourcerers? Cool.

How long will the Magic section be when fully written up?

>>54409664
>no way to be the protagonists
Seems like a fairly pointless jump, if I'm being honest.

>>54409774
>Yes. Is that too powerful?
With the recent jumps, not anymore. Ignore the haters.

>>54409664
I'm reading through this and liking the way you handled it.

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>>54409774
>I'm not opposed to the ideas on principle, just very cautious about making Post-Human even more attractive than it already is.

No need to worry, Post-Human's my third or fourth choice. Cowl is clearly the best origin, I'd need to be incentivised further before I considered taking PH.

>>54409297
Wewhewheeeeew, lad. Fucking savage.

>>54409774
>Yes. Is that too powerful?
Nah, there's already more than a few ways to get that from other jumps.

>I'm not opposed to the ideas on principle, just very cautious about making Post-Human even more attractive than it already is.
Let's be honest, Post-Human will always be the most attractive option for jumpers looking for power, which are a lot. And I think that's fine, it's a gimmick of the setting and canon. I guess you could slap on a mandatory drawback, like getting detached from humanity, but that would probably just lure some shitopsters. But what I really don't like is limiting canon abilities. I don't mind having to deal with some drawbacks that will make my stay in the setting hell to get Manhatten's powers, but not even having the ability to get them feels kinda shitty.

>>54409664
...Could you go over how the prices for the Adept/Master tier spells work again? Are they getting discounted to 50 and 25 or what?

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>>54409789

What does the space ship fleet look like in Nier automata?, I tried googling them but nothing came up

>>54409774
Sounds good. Thanks for making it.

>>54409774
>Yes. Is that too powerful?

Not since the efforts from two, now three, different jumpmakers.

>>54409777
The Plotbound drawback brings you pretty close to being one of them. You could be the third Source Hunter

>>54409894
>two jumpmakers
SJ-Chan, Val, or Cracker_Jack?

>>54409774
>Yes. Is that too powerful?
Come to think of it, it makes You're Just A Man pretty redundant.

>>54409936
Don't underestimate humanity-wank. Pretty sure there are more than enough "merely human" characters that could shit on Dr. Manhatten.

>>54409925
SJ-Chan didn't do much for the power creep. It's mostly Val and maybe Tamerai

>>54409774
>too powerful?
I just don't like how you cannot even take all the powers to be mini Manhattan. If one of the powers was included in the post-human background, than the entire set could be gotten for 1,600 CP. But it look like Surface of the Sun is also a necessary power thing to be like him. That's the 1,800 CP jump limit (If posthuman was 400 CP and gave a free power) Not even room for companion imports.

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>>54409739
Don't be sorry. I don't expect everybody to live on the thread or anything. It's just hard to get motivated when you're staring down writing so much and nobody seems excited about your work.

So thank you. I'm glad you like it.

>>54409776
Yeah, Sourcerers play too big a part of the world for me not to offer a path for them. Besides, Death Knights and Blood Stones are awesome inspirations for perks.

I'm going to finish Night in the Woods first, since I'm on a roll with it, and it shouldn't take me too long to finish now that I've got the tone that I want in the intro. I'll go back to Divinity after that and start working on it again.

Sorry I can't be more specific. I don't like giving myself hard deadlines when I never know how my work schedule is going to be from one week to the next.

>>54409777
[unenthusiastic] Stop. Don't. Come back.

Seriously though, I had considered a "Replace the Protagonists" Background/Drawback, but it proved too hard to balance between requiring the Reincarnated Drawback and a few others without making it seem like the only real choice.

Taking Plot Bound and Reincarnated while being a Source Hunter will basically make you a third Protagonist though.

>>54409821
Thank you. Where were all you guys the first time around?

>>54409877
Okay, so it works like this.

An Enchanter gets a discount buying Aerotheurge spells. So you decide to buy up the whole Wandering Breeze tree because Invisibility and Teleportation spells tickle your fancy.

Novice (50 CP), Adept (50 CP), Master (25 CP) = Total 125 CP.

I know the 25 CP at Master is a little clunky, but that's because you're only getting one spell while Novice and Adept both give you two. It's also to allow people to max out both their Magic Discounts for a round 250 CP.

>>54409882
Why would I know that?

>>54409882
We have no idea. The war is mainly fought on the surface.

>>54409978
Heavens and Cracker_Jack certainly helped.

>>54409936
It costs more than twice as much as You're Just a Man, and doesn't let you survived contrived bullshit.

>>54409978
>Tamerai
Is this that Generic Videogame Developer Omnipotence thing again?

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>>54409996
>Not even room for companion imports.
Sad, but fitting.

>>54410000
Nice Quads!

>Where were all you guys the first time around?
I would have been shitposting.

>>54409297
>Super bright red and teal background
My eyes are evaporating

>>54410060
>My eyes are evaporating
OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH!

>>54409996
What do you think of Val's work?

>>54409297
Fuck off

>>54410000
>Sourcerers play too big a part of the world for me not to offer a path for them
The only Sourcerers I know about (with that spelling) is in Discworld.

What are they like in this setting (which I know nothing about)?

>>54410011
>We have no idea. The war is mainly fought on the surface.

Thanks for the answer anon

>>54410128
WHAT'S WRONG COMMIE SCUM?
IS YOUR DEAD, COLD HEART MELTING FROM SUCH CONCENTRATED FREEDOM?

>>54409297
I don't know what this is, but it's now my favorite thing ever.

>>54409664
Let's see...

Any reason for why Classes are in that specific order? Wanderer's place seems awkward, just there in the middle.

>All Magic is split in three branches each
Ooooh, me like. Perk-esque, innit? That said, what is the extent of possibilities for learning things you don't buy into? Learning Master spells from buying Adept, or learning Geomancy from scratch?

Remind me, doesn't magic require a focus there?

Can one speed up the cooldowns somehow?

>Blood Stones
Might want to have some sort of copy protection on those, if the intent is there, of course.

~~~

Really makes me want to finally finish that game. If only my friend wasn't an asshole.

This is a good thing there, Yoro. Thank you much.

>>54409882
Pretty sure it's a marine fleet.

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Do we have anything that we can wear and it counts as us training while it is on?

>>54408551
>What did /JC/ do in the Marvel Jumps?
Probably high tailed it off to some Alien Space Civilization. Marvel has those, right? The whole COSMIC CRISIS every other year, with Earth at ground zero gets real old real fast. Also, fuck the Scarlet Witch, and anything vaguely similar to the Scarlet Witch.

>>54410221
There's a coat in Rurouni Kenshin, training armor in World's Mightiest Disciple Kenichi, and I think that's it for now.

>>54410040
I only thought of it because his latest jump has that free item that can make anything from any world as long as the jumper has seen it before.

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>>54410261

>>54410217
>Pretty sure it's a marine fleet.

That's what I meant to ask but made a mistake

>>54410040
Well, DBAF certainly didn't help.

>>54408150
>You Awaken In Razor Hill

Tednug companion?

>>54410221
There's a thing for that in one of the Dragon Balls.

>>54410120
>What do you think of Val's work?
My regard for her work is slightly tarnished by the fact that she is a Raging Butt Monkey who cannot even put 'CP' at the end of perk and item costs. And who is a Raging Butt Monkey, cannot remember if I mentioned that yet.

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What would I need to bargain with Galactus to give me a Silver Surfer sized chunk of the Power Cosmic?

>>54410331
Take Deadpool's place when he's looking for more heralds.

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>>54410161
Page 18 has the summary of them that I wrote up which does a good job of giving the basics.

The TLDR version is that they're mages who don't live by the rules of THE MAN (Source Hunters) and use their magic whatever way they damn well please.

>>54410195
>Classes
They're alphabetical.

>Magic
I'm so grateful everyone is enjoying the way I was handling Magic. I worried over it for so long you have no idea.

You can buy into any magic that you want, even if you don't have the discount. You can learn it on your own, but if you don't have a talent for it (I.E. Discount) you're looking at a couple decades worth of work to get the Adept level.

You always have to buy the trees in order though. You can't buy Novice in Wandering Breeze then skip over and pick up Adept for Winter Winds. Unless people like that way better. It wasn't how I planned it, but I guess it would let people customize their magic even more.

Magic doesn't require a focus. Most mages use staffs or wands, but they're not required or even helpful for the process.

You can't really speed up the cooldowns on spells anymore than they already are. I was actually more generous than the game was on the lengths of those cooldowns, so using in universe stuff to shorten them further isn't going to happen. Out of universe stuff though... Well, I'm not going to rule on that but there's a ton of ways I'm sure.

As for the Blood Stones, there's already going to be a little bit of copy protection built in. You won't be able to leave them behind when your time in a Jump ends. They'll hop right back into your Warehouse when you leave. But people being able to pick up and use your Blood Stones is actually a weakness in-universe, so I'm leaving it in.

I'm just happy people are hyped enough to ask these kinds of questions. Definitely have the motivation to finish the Jump now.

>>54410248
>>54410310

Thats all then? A shame, I was hoping we had many more. Thank you for these I will get to adding them to my builds.

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What are some jump settings that would be interesting if a Gate (a'la Thus the JSDF Fought There) opened to?

>>54409120
>because it's a fine jump
Yes, it is.

>the mock-up imaged page looked damn good.
There is a mock up image page?

>>54410372
Is that a boy or a girl in the picture?

>>54410285
Why is it bait? That's literally what the label says it does.

Is the Chosen of Mystra a valid template to purchase in the Forgotten Realms jump?

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>>54410440
Yes.

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>>54410372
>I'm just happy people are hyped enough to ask these kinds of questions. Definitely have the motivation to finish the Jump now.

Gimme gimme

>>54410429
I think it was Cool Cats?
It was done in black and yellow, and looked pretty great.

>>54410372
Is there an actual in-setting justification for "cooldown times"? Like, why do you cast one spell and suddenly become unable to cast it again, while for some reason your other spells are unaffected?

>>54410372
>Unless people like that way better.
It's fine. Not what I meant anyway. Heh.

>As for the Blood Stones, there's already going to be a little bit of copy protection built in.
I meant, some jumpers will be tempted to use... Untoward, means to duplicate the stones for obvious reasons.

>I'm just happy people are hyped enough to ask these kinds of questions. Definitely have the motivation to finish the Jump now.
I know how motivation is. Consider yourself hugged!~

>>54410552
>Untoward
Wow, that's pretty badwrongfun of you, anon.

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So should I try to use the Games of Divinity to bribe the Forgotten Realms gods into being less shit? Or is that more likely to just turn them into crack addicts and make them even MORE shit?

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>>54410481
Soon, soon. I'm dedicated to finishing Night in the Woods first, then I'll work on Divinity again.

>>54410511
I did address that in the explanation of Magic at the beginning of the section. There's not much info in the game, but the tidbits I could scrape together talk about mages passively accumulating magic to cast their spells and that after casting one they need a moment to re-accumulate the magic to cast that spell again.

While I'm not entirely sure if it's just a justification for the game's mechanics or the actual way the world's magic works in that era, it's the answer I'm going with.

>>54410552
>It's fine...
I added a note down at the bottom of the document just to clarify it for certain.

>Blood Stones
Considering how evil Sourcerers are... this is how it was intended to be. I'm pretty sure it's going to turn into FMA's philosopher's stone for some Jumpers.

>Hugs!~
I LOVE HUGS!

>>54410616
Guess what else is badwrongfun.

Calling me anon.

Grumblegrumble

>>54410640
Most probably the latter, considering how shit the FR gods are and what effect the Games had on every single person who played them.

>>54409297
Mal, you madman. You absolute madman. I love it.

Holy hell, I should start running an America chain. It would be great.

>>54410659
>they need a moment to re-accumulate the magic to cast that spell again.
So, what they "accumulate" magical energy... and then a portion of it is automatically aspected towards a certain spell, unable to be used on anything else? Because, their other spells don't need to be "accumulated". So they set aside energy specifically for each spell? Are there cutscenes which reflect this?

>>54410708
Are you going to make Jumping great again?

>>54410696
Yeah, was afraid of that. So I guess I either need some way of redirecting all of the worship that gods would normally receive and holding it hostage... or to just come back post-spark and boop Ao on the snoot for not dealing with his shitty kids.

>>54410474
The version I know (from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting book) doesn't have any listed CR increase/decrease... So, no, it wouldn't be.

Otherwise, it probably would be, since the template is FR-specific?

Hey OAA I found the official WoW timeline released last May!
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Timeline_(Ultimate_Visual_Guide)

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>>54410717
>So, what they "accumulate" magical energy... and then a portion of it is automatically aspected towards a certain spell, unable to be used on anything else?
Yeah, basically. You discharge a spell and start passively drawing mana into yourself to charge the spell up again. It's almost like each spell has their own mana pool that needs to be filled.

It's weird, I know.

>Are there cutscenes which reflect this?
There's not much in the way of cut scenes in Divinity: Original Sin. It's a classic RPG like Baulder's Gate. Lots of reading text boxes. There are mentions of accumulating magical energy in pieces as an actual piece of the lore, but like I said I'm unsure if it's just them explaining away the game mechanics or what.

So I'm doing my best to balance the sense of it with the lore and the game mechanics. I played with it A LOT before I decided on using something that closely resembles the property. Believe me, I was tempted to deviate a long way away from the time based magic.

>>54410781
>doesn't have any listed CR increase/decrease
Huh. No idea how I missed that.

Ah well, too bad. Has some neat perks.

>>54410696
>every single person who played them
The only things to have played the Games of Divinity and not become addicts are the Primordials. And they were already uncaring asshats.

That said...
>>54410640
>make them even MORE shit?
Nope, they won't be more shit. They'll be too busy playing the Games to spend time dealing with mortals. This would be the kind of dick move you pull on gods like Cyric.

>>54410720
He's going to build a wall to block out SB jumps and make SB pay for it, then he's going to deport all of the SB jumps that snuck into the drive illegally.

>>54410659
Why do you keep trying to push your jumps over here when you guys have your own drive?

>>54410876
No other Jumpmaker in the world mixes their Jumps by waterfall.
But it's the only way if you want it... just... right.

>>54410876
Why are you accusing one of ours for being an SBer?

>>54410855
>Nope, they won't be more shit. They'll be too busy playing the Games to spend time dealing with mortals. This would be the kind of dick move you pull on gods like Cyric.
Well the idea was they would have limited access and would have to earn the privilege.

>>54410864
Tell me, /jc/.

In which jump is the strongest wall?

>>54410923
Because it is an SBer.

>>54410928
Nah. Just leave them all playing the Games.

This gives Faerun a chance to get it's shit together.

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>>54410935
Well, there's the Hydro-Wall in GUNNM. That's some pretty secure stuff considering it's keeping out an entire desert planet worth of bandits.

http://battleangel.wikia.com/wiki/Hydro-Wall

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Okay...okay 3rd times the charm....I hope

>>54409545
Latelatelate but. Could draw on the janitor guy who may or may not be the Forest God too. Being able to just... appear at the right place, at the right time. And the opposite, drawing others towards you when you wish to interact with them. Being cryptic as fuck and getting into places you shouldn't, without anyone looking too much into you doing these things. If you're cool with explicit cosmic bullshit, giving others dream visions could be a fun power.

>>54410935
You can invoke the power of Kek in Percy Jackson and create the strongest wall alive. Become the chosen one, destined to make Jumpchain great again.

>>54410928
You don't make them earn the privilege of playing the Games... You demonstrate the addictive nature by using Cyric as an example, then THREATEN the other gods with addiction.

>>54409774
>I don't remember this being explicitly stated. Maybe with training, you can wank that you get to that level. Telekinesis is a simpler concept to explain and balance.
Either put that in the notes or the perk itself. I shouldn't have to wank something that is seemingly canon.

Anyone have the latest Love is a Battlefield?

>>54410922
No, but seriously. You guys have a perfectly serviceable drive, I don't know why you care so much about popularity in a rather obscure internet community.

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So I've discovered I'm still really bad at gacha and RNG-generated chains, because my ability to write that just seems to take a sharp nosedive anytime I make the attempt. I think Erased might have Pavlov'd me on that.

Will be hand-picking the next chain. Apologies to anyone who wanted to see more of that. Still have no idea if the new one will even have any gimmicks.

Slightly related, has anyone had a side chain that came to a sudden and screeching halt, whether from boredom or a sudden case of Jumper is dead?

>>54410958
Don't they still have actual jobs to do, though?

>>54411016
I doubt I can really force them to play it.

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>>54410935
DC has the source wall,which, depending on your interpretation and which particular timeline You are in is strong enough to separate reality from fiction and Assimilate any God who tries to tamper with it

>>54411105
Do you really care about this community, or are you just trolling?

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>>54411007
The Drop-In tree is going to be all about the WEIRDNESS. The Janitor's "passive camouflage" is a great idea for a perk though. There's a cryptic perk already in the Adult /Cultist tree. "I dreamed I met God." is one of the Drop-In capstones and it's exactly what you think it should be. I'll think about the drawing others towards you Perk, but I'm not sure it really fits the Janitor very well.

>>54411069
Now, don't get excited. Don't lose your head, Anon. We don't want anybody to lose that.

>>54411069
You're not welcome here. Go back to tumblr, you Liechtensteinan faggot.

>>54411105
I really do care so I answered anon's question

>>54410986
Formatting looks slightly better, but now you've decided to do a massive exposition dump which still doesn't really say much other than "here are factions, they all have a goal each. they may not matter, you can do whatever you want". Your drawbacks don't help in terms of this, because they're all just "here's one thing that happened to you, live with it." Is there supposed to be no overarching conflict or no interaction between any of the characters and factions? Is this setting just about people sitting in a place and doing things that don't make a difference?

Your choice of perk design is peculiar. Like how Mage has a double tree, and yet the Vagabond's capstone specifically mentions it needs the Mage Capstone as well. Are you trying to do some sort of perk synergy like other jumpmakers have? Because it isn't working very well here.

You basically have no unique items outside of the 600 CP item because so many of your items lock out backgrounds. Is this intentional?

>>54411081
I have been trying so hard to pick a choice for pokemon for Aria's next jump and it hasn't been doing so well. I'm half tempted to just pick another jump and keep going and just forget about pokemon.

>>54411084
>Don't they still have actual jobs to do, though?
Meh, so do the gods in Exalted. Doesn't stop them from completely ignoring their duties to instead play the Games.

>I doubt I can really force them to play it.
All they need to do is see it played. Seriously, it's that addictive.

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>>54411081
>Slightly related, has anyone had a side chain that came to a sudden and screeching halt, whether from boredom or a sudden case of Jumper is dead?

What are you talking about, that never happens. It happens extremely frequently.

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>>54411081
Too many to count.

>>54411148
Then don't you think it'd be in its best interests, if you transferred to SB? Also, Val isn't there. And you still get everything important.

>>54411081
My side chains usually don't make it off the ground because I have difficulties getting the initial premise off the ground. For example, I wanted to do a Chain where I as myself die and go to Disgaea and become a Prinny, taking the Scenario to become a Prinny Overlord, and then only going to Jumps with demons and proper versions of Hell, annexing parts of them into my Netherworld, but I couldn't justify Prinny Overlord being able to take Priere in a fight.

Or, I had another one where I wanted to take Saint's Row as first Jump and take the Drawback that traps you in hell and prolongs your stay every time you die, but I couldn't get myself into the right mindset for the sort of person that suffering that sort of Scenario would create.

>>54411184
Unless he's going to make jumps over on SB we don't care for him to come over, he can stay here.

>>54411081
My third rollchain was Dragonball Multiverse.....my jumper came down with a sudden case of dead.

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>>54411050
I've got ya covered.

>>54411130
Why do you keep dodging the question, Yoro? Does it really hurt that much to acknowledge the truth?

>>54411210
Why won't Anon listen to Mr. Wonka?
Because, Charlie, he's a nitwit.

>>54411081
>Side chains coming to a sudden and screeching halt
That describes literally ALL of my side chains. Honestly, if I try to focus on doing more than one at once, it never works out creatively.

>>54410935
Well... Forgotten Realms has the Wall of the Faithless, which is probably the most pointlessly evil one. Not sure how strong it is though.

Exalted doesn't actually have it (yet), but during a large chunk of the 1st Age, the Magnus argued to turn the Neverborn into a giant Neverborn-Soulsteel tomb-wall around Creation. Which seems like it would be pretty stronk.

>>54411164
>Meh, so do the gods in Exalted. Doesn't stop them from completely ignoring their duties to instead play the Games.
Yeah... but the Sun's duty is protecting Creation and ruling Heaven (ignore both means both are currently fucked), Luna mostly fullfills her duties simply by existing, and the Maidens foisted pretty much all of their duties on the Sidereals and Pattern Spiders.

The gods in FR would probably need to actually get off their asses more than the Incarnae.

>All they need to do is see it played. Seriously, it's that addictive.
For which you still need to force them into the Warehouse?

>>54411206
You deserve each other, though.

>>54411209
Thanks,comrade.

>>54411210
Why are you so obsessed with SB anon? It's just a silly nerd site.

>>54411154
Formatting looks slightly better, but now you've decided to do a massive exposition dump which still doesn't really say much other than "here are factions, they all have a goal each. they may not matter, you can do whatever you want". Your drawbacks don't help in terms of this, because they're all just "here's one thing that happened to you, live with it." Is there supposed to be no overarching conflict or no interaction between any of the characters and factions? Is this setting just about people sitting in a place and doing things that don't make a difference?

in the game itself there is no overarching story.. it is just hey there are 5 maybe 6 general storylines with each organization or power but there no Big Bad that everyone must fight....

Your choice of perk design is peculiar. Like how Mage has a double tree, and yet the Vagabond's capstone specifically mentions it needs the Mage Capstone as well. Are you trying to do some sort of perk synergy like other jumpmakers have? Because it isn't working very well here.

Mages don't have a double tree they have more options that lock the other option out...like Time magic and Space magic you can't have both you have to choose or the other.

You basically have no unique items outside of the 600 CP item because so many of your items lock out backgrounds. Is this intentional?
Yes things like Mec or technology are heretical to the mystics and mages though I did forget to make a region map for the mages... heroes wouldn't take a servant or slave or have a business they are supposed to be selfless and heroic. they aren't batman

I don't supposes we could report the shitposting fucker for trying to start a “raid” of SB?

>>54411282
Because he's an SBer himself. Don't ask his reasons beyond that, they are mindnumbingly stupid.
Eitehr, 1, he's butthurt the most active community is here not there.
Or, 2, he thinks that starting fights here somehow helps them over there.
Again, stupid reasons.

>>54411235
>Why won't Anon listen to Mr. Wonka?
>Because, Charlie, he's a nitwit.
Lets be real here, there are only three ways a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory jump could end:

>Jumper burns down the factory
>Jumper breaks off from the tour so they can hunt the Oompa-Loompas
>Jumper murders the other children to ensure they win the contest

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>>54411330
I mean, if you want to be honest, I'm sure some Jumpers would see those three as the only viable options.

Personally I'd just tag along and watch the other kids be idiots without touching anything. Then Wonka would just give you the factory. Just an afternoon's worth of patience is all it would take. It isn't even like you wouldn't have some sweets along the way with the candy room being basically the first real stop on the tour.

Burning the place down just seems like a waste.

>>54411330
You forgot forgot:
>Jumper makes and fucks a chocolate waifu
>Jumper does all of the above

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>>54411330
>not sitting there, quietly doing exactly as Wonka asks while clearly giving off signs of "you should not be here you should not exist" that only he can perceive

>not leaving him to beg you to do whatever it is you're planning because you are not a child and you are not a human and you are clearly up to something

>not explaining that seeing the look on his face at that moment was the plan

>>54411305
You're going to be ignored because neither side's janitors care enough about the hissy fits of a marginal population

>>54411301
Even if you're from reddit, learn to use > tags for quoting.
>in the game itself there is no overarching story.. it is just hey there are 5 maybe 6 general storylines with each organization or power but there no Big Bad that everyone must fight....

It's not about having a primary antagonist, it's the way you use language that makes it seem like nothing actually happens in this universe because you basically give a list of people and things then have the readers try to build a story. You're basically giving cliff notes and expecting people to know what happens from the points you decided to mention. There's no frame of reference in terms of time or history, there's no appeal other than your very blunt line saying you can do anything you want in the Region.

>Mages don't have a double tree they have more options that lock the other option out...like Time magic and Space magic you can't have both you have to choose or the other.
It's a double tree in terms of available choices. Mages effectively have more than a single path that they can go off of within their own options, but your other backgrounds only have one. Even if choosing one locks out the other, there's still a wider range of choice available. This doesn't begin to go into a background to background comparison of the perks, which has other problems in it.

>Yes things like Mec or technology are heretical to the mystics and mages though I did forget to make a region map for the mages... heroes wouldn't take a servant or slave or have a business they are supposed to be selfless and heroic. they aren't batman
If people are supposed to act in a certain way once they take a background, this should be mentioned, instead of hinted at by placing item blocks.

>>54411016
Didn't Cyric basically do that to HIMSELF with the Cyrinishad or whatever?

>>54411406
Honestly? Given the choice between the two of you Wonka is pretty much always going to choose Charlie over a Jumper. It varies depending on the version, but Wonka usually says he wants an heir who will do things the way he tells them to, not someone who will do things their own way. Putting aside Jumper stereotypes, just having an adult's mind would probably discourage Wonka from picking you.

And yes, this is kind of stupid. That's why some adaptations give Charlie something more substantial to show he deserved to win.

>>54411416
Wonka is nuts, man. He probably would figure out you're not a "normal" child, and he probably wouldn't give a shit until you actually started breaking things.

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>>54411504
I guess you'll just have to make the Jump and see how the various Jumpers react, won't you? Joking. Not Joking.

>>54409664
Ok. Looking at the jump...
>Magic in Rivellon is a bit different from what you will find in other realms. For one, commonly used magic is almost exclusively focused on what can be used in and around combat situations. This is due, in part, to the tight reign magical colleges and Source Hunters have placed on the practice of magic. While there are undoubtedly more ways Magic can be used, much of the world doesn’t seem keen on experimenting when it could result in a Source Hunter kicking down your door and murdering half your family.
This sounds like terrible. Above it sounded like Sourcers were standard mad cultists. This makes it sound differently, like anyone trying to find non killey uses of magic gets killed even if they aren't kidnapping the local virgins. Do the Source Hunters ever get slapped down?
>He was a Sourcerer!
>He was a Geomancer working on a Wall of Stone spell for construction purposes. And paid his taxes. Have fun being a fugitive murderer on the run from the law.

The problem I have with the magic is how it is structured differently from the skills, but classes don't have the same numbers of each (3 skills & 2 magics, 4 skills & 1 magic, 5 skills) since it makes the discounts uneven.

For the Skill, I think a 100CP novice/ 200 adept would be better, with no prerequisites and discounts as normal (lowest discounted being free) would be easier. Someone with a skill discounted would have novice level free, and could be adept for 100 CP, others could have novice for 100 CP, or adept for 200 CP. Have magic go 50, 100, 200, with discounts being free,50 CP, 100 CP. Again, just take the level you want.

>>54411504
To be honest, I'd probably follow along until the TV Kid gets the axe, then I'd intentionally take a dive. Charlie's a pretty poor kid, so I don't really mind letting him take the factory. I'd probably come up to him at a later date and offer him my services in some way.

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>>54408150
Sounds fun.

>>54408624
Thank you for the link.

>>54408680
>All of that, or 10+ Deathclaws at level 1
Sunny was right.

>>54411081
It's alright Heavens, these things happen.
And yes. I've had three side chains I've attempted that either didn't work out, or I finished the character's story very suddenly due to running out of steam.

Only Justice and Tiger remain.

And part of the reason I'm waiting so long to continue Tiger is because of just how bad some of his rolls have been, and some of his possible rolls still are. Incredibly complicated settings I know fucking NOTHING about, so I can't feel comfortable writefagging. Or settings that are nothing, so there is nothing worth writefagging.

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>>54411504
my jumper would probably give charlie a nice old sum of money to live comfortably for the rest of his life and then they would probably fool wonka into coming off as normal. They have enough perks as to where they can do that. With the way my chain works, making me a kid actually gives me a kid's mind (I HATE going through puberty multiple times because it's always hell, and I need to have an adult companion guide me)

Kid me would then quietly assassinate Wonka to have the factory all on their own.

Hey OAA if you import a skull as the The Skull of the Man’ari does it gain any abilities from the being who used to use it? I've got that beings soul around somewhere in my dungeon, If that is an issue. I think I made him the fifth floor boss.

>>54411687
Would you do anything new to the Oompa Loompas now that you are in charge?

>>54408352
This is cool and all, but I feel like offering even a facsimile of Dr. Manhattan's powers is a bad move considering the rest of the setting is pretty much mundane, even if it is much more expensive than the other options.

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>>54411756
I'd have to research into their situation exactly (Plus reread the book) and try to see if they're treated right or not and ask them how they feel about it.

I'd probably give them weapons to kill their natural predators on the island they came from if they want to go back home. If they liked working at the factory I'd let them work but I'd always have to make sure they'd be treated right.

>>54411752
Why would an imported skull get powers unrelated to the import, when it didn't have those before? The Skull of the Man'ari works because of Thal'kiel's spirit trapped in it, not anything specific about his skull.

>>54411462
>It's not about having a primary antagonist, it's the way you use language that makes it seem like nothing actually happens in this universe because you basically give a list of people and things then have the readers try to build a story. You're basically giving cliff notes and expecting people to know what happens from the points you decided to mention.

Saga Frontier at least the first released in america didn't give you much...here is Allesus she got hit by the Charm Lord's carriage while he was looking for his missing bitch...now she is a half mystic oh she wants to go home...she find out that she is being chased by Charm Lord's men for taking one of his princesses with her oh princess gets captured time to go back and kill him...the game itself just drops you in and says have fun do the main quest don't do the main quest I don't give a shit...

>It's a double tree in terms of available choices. Mages effectively have more than a single path that they can go off of within their own options, but your other backgrounds only have one. Even if choosing one lock out the other, there's still a wider range of choice available. This doesn't begin to go into a background to background comparison of the perks, which has other problems in it.

That is how magic works there is only two specialized magic locked out for everyone that is realm magic because in game only the mages have it and mystic magic because only have it. Mages are actively trying to learn it to everyone magic is an afterthought. They don't have a double tree they have a more customizable one

>If people are supposed to act in a certain way once they take a background, this should be mentioned, instead of hinted at by placing item blocks.

act however you want. but according to the game and its lore mystics dont like tech and that how I made it is your jump jump how you like if you want to be a dick hero be a dick hero

>>54411578
I actually do kind of want to make it, I just procrastinate really badly and haven't typed up anything yet.

Current idea is that origins are Good kid (based on Charlie and doing the right thing), Bad kid (the other kids and getting away with being a spoiled brat), and Drop-in (stumped, maybe being a responsible adult or finding a half-way point between growing up and keeping the good qualities of childhood). Some kind of creative origin, based on Wonka, is a possible fourth, but I'm scared it would overshadow the other origins. There would be a Pure Imagination perk, which would either be the fourth origin's capstone or an expensive non-discounted perk, that's based around creating Wonka-style wonders. Also, a "choose your adaptation" 0 CP drawback that will explicitly mention the Tom and Jerry version, just in case you didn't know that existed. And a "so much time and so little to do" 0 CP that ends the jump something like a day after the tour, because the name is just perfect.

Also, a 0 CP, mandatory drawback that gives you a personalized temptation on the tour. It doesn't come with any kind of compulsion, so all you have to do to avoid it is not touch anything, but it's a fun hook and you get a song about your personal failings if you bite the bait. It'd probably also explicitly come right after Mike's, so that you won't even miss anything if you do decide to go through with it.

>>54411757
Well you're at least guaranteed to have Red and Konata take the unpopular stuff be hipsters.

>>54411504
What if you bought the factory and just hired Charlie as the de-facto controller and manager? Charlie (and Wonka) gets his dream, jumper gets his candy flavored mega bucks. Win-win.

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>>54411914
Please give us a +0 Tom And Jerry drawback

>>54408680
The entire Paradox Grand Strategy series has some in each of them.

>>54411942
What if you go on the tour, conduct some corporate espionage, then found your own candy factory and drive Wonka out of business?

That way, you get a bunch of money and no one else wins!

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>>54411603
>Source Hunters are terrible people.
For the most part, the few Source Hunters we see aren't really all that bad. But the organization as a whole has a bad reputation given to it by the zealots among their ranks. A few of the higher ups seem to specifically order the rank-and-file to take an extreme hard-line view of unusual, strange, or new magic because, in the past, these have been the hallmarks of "corrupted" magic.

But out in the field, Source Hunters are pretty independent and apply their own experience and world view to the missions they are sent out to investigate. So your Geomancer twisting Wall of Stone for construction purposes will probably have an eye kept on him for quite a while, but only really bothered if one of those zealots get sent out. And even then, murdering someone who was obviously not harming anyone and even using their magic to help out would be frowned upon even by the zealot higher-ups.

>Classes
Every class has five discounts. One Magic, one Weapon, one Defense, and the final two placed as appropriate for the class's flavor. Enchanter slips around this due to none of the weapon choices really fitting and I didn't want to make up something to cram in there.

So while yes, the Discounts are not perfectly even, they do suit the flavor of each class.

>Skills
Ah, I see the issue. Skills are discounted, but you do not get the 100 CP one for free. So buying Novice and Adept is 200 CP if you're buying on Discount. That's why it's priced that way.

I know it's hard to see with the Jump half-finished, but I agonized over the "budget" of the build for a while and came up with the prices I did due to wanting people to get the basics of their class without dipping into Drawbacks.

Perks (Full Line on Discount) - 600 CP
Weapon (Adept) - 50
Defense (Adept) - 50
Magic (Adept) - 50 (Adept of three trees with Stipend)
Skill (Adept) - 50
Total: 800 CP

This gives any builder 200 CP to buy Companion Imports, Items, or improve Skills.

>>54411982
That post explicitly mentions an adaptation-choosing drawback. Tom and Jerry: Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is mentioned too.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that that's getting in.

>>54411914
>personalized temptation

How would that work with native jumpers who started out as robots or zombies?

>>54412082
What about it? You don't need to have emotion to be tempted, just faulty cost/benefit analysis.

>>54411940
Except that's always been the latter's schtick, and nobody gives a shit about the former's chain.

>>54412082
>robots

>Whatever you do, do not fuck this experimental candy machine
>Jumper tries to fuck the machine
>Jumper gets crushed into a tin-can
That's exactly what would happen.

>>54411905
Take this however you want, but a part of the problem I'm seeing is in your writing. Your new opening exposition basically makes the original location descriptions come off as bland, where each location basically describes a trope that the area is supposed to follow + some namedrops, which don't work if people don't know what the significance of the namedrop is supposed to be. Why do I care about this Mondo? Is BlackX supposed to be significant if it gets a paragraph and nothing else? Your pitch for this setting is that it's full of wondrous and dangerous things, but then you just end up running off a list of names with no frame of reference for any of it. What part of this setting is supposed to be wondrous or dangerous? Is it just because I have the flexibility to do anything I want? This problem gets worse when you point out that there is apparently no plot or action that takes place. The hints that you're dropping probably make sense in your head, but a reader can't read your mind, the only thing they can do is focus on where you place emphasis, and you don't use emphasis very well anywhere in your document.

Even the blandest of games will still have a world to portray. It doesn't have to be original, it doesn't have to be unique, but if there isn't a setting, there can't be any action.

The choices that you make for locking out perks, locking out items, or telling the reader that they explicitly can't learn certain things needs to be explained inside the document, not explained as a response to commentary. If you don't add it in, anyone who doesn't know the setting won't know why you put it in.

>>54412017
>Perks (Full Line on Discount) - 600 CP
>Weapon (Adept) - 50
>Defense (Adept) - 50
>Magic (Adept) - 50 (Adept of three trees with Stipend)
>Skill (Adept) - 50
>Total: 800 CP
Your math doesn't look right to me. Because those totals are for novice level, not adept. Currently Novice is 50 CP (total), and Adept 200 total (for skills) or 100 total (for one of the branched of magic) if they are discounted.

I'm operating on the assumption someone trained in a class should have novice level in all that classes stuff as a minimum. That is background memories level stuff. And seasoned or talented members of the class would be looking at some adept levels.

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>>54412412
Yes, sorry, my brain swapped Novice for Adept. I'm bouncing between things.

I'll think about it, but I rather like the pricing scale I have now.

>>54409664
Hey, I was bingereading a webcomic but I'm always glad to see this. Reading it now and will offer feedback afterward. Thanks for doing this!

>>54408352
>making a build, getting the good shit
>figuring out what I want as I go, thinking I'll go with Drop-In or World's Smartest
>then see the Self-Willed Presence+Watchmaker lets you be in multiple places at once
>1400cp
FUCK

Well, I guess I throw out most of my build.

...What could you do with the telekinesis gained by Watchmaker without I Have Become Death? Just change individual molecules' structure, or would it also work on larger (but still small) objects?

Could you do some of the Watchmaker+I Have Become Death feats, if you just had Watchmaker and sufficiently stronk telekinesis from somewhere else?

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I'm thinking about doing a monster run, /jc/. So what are your favorite werewolves in the chain? Why are they your favorite? What would you change about them if you could?

tl;dr - Werewolf discussion pls

>>54408352
>>54412570
Oh wait, Watchmaker isn't needed for the multiple bodies trick... Hm. Ditching it would help the rest of my build recover a bit.

Though, depending on the answers to my questions, might still take it when I'm going Post-Human anyway.

Oh, also, can we pick what color we glow as a post-human?

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>>54412643
Are Variant species acceptable? because I am ore of a Whywolf kinda guy.

>>54412690
What's the difference? Where are they from and what are they about?

>>54412704
>What's the difference?

werewolves are generally just possessed by the spirit of bloodlust, why wolves are possessed by the spirits of both bloodlust and inquiry.

Where are they from and what are they about?

Adventure time, more specifically the land of Ooo and they are about the fine line between The Emotional disconnect required for Scientific objectivity to perform cruel experiments and the savage fury of a hungry animal.

>>54412690
Whenwolves are the worst, time travel means it's always a full moon for them.

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Jump # 170 Metal Gear
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Background: Intel Unit (200)
Era: 1984 Afghanistan
Perks:
*Survival Viewer (50)
*Legendary Soldier (300)
*Lay of the land (0)
*Trained Eye (0)
*Jumping Spider (200)
*Fairy Disguise (200, Discount)
Companions
*Import X 17 (450)
Drawbacks:
*Pacifist Run (+ 400)

(I know very little here)

Afghanistan was a hell hole. A nasty war zone. I didn’t really want to get involved in this one with my companions. Some group that it turns out were backed by Cypher kept trying to recruit us which led the big boss to us.

I had found out about Big Boss’ return and his crusade against Cypher. I didn’t trust Cypher so I decided to join up with him and his diamond dogs.

There was some weird plot involving a parasite that killed people who spoke English. I was able to figure out the plot and make a cure for the parasite before any of the devil dogs died. There was more stuff that went on. The big Boss that I was working for wasn’t the real big boss. I was able to remove the shrapnel from his head. I also gave him Aura and a Stand which he put to good use.

I also was able to control Metal Gear with Technopathy which turned out very helpful.

Is whoever made
Maoyuu & Demon King here?
It looks like the Hero gets the mage 100 CP perk free as well as its own perk line. Is the Demon King supposed to get a Demon Race choice free to compensate?

>>54408150
>>54408624
So, it's an enjoyable read. But how the heck is this going to make a scenario besides us replacing Tednug?

>>54412751
>Whenwolves are the worst, time travel means it's always a full moon for them

>suddenly remember my Jumper is a God of time/living corruption with Hella magic and Extensive knowledge of the soul,Mastery of Dalek Science and One of the "Technology into biology" perks.

you've just given me a new project, Thanks.

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>>54412751
also , given their time traveling nature. You may have just Completed the stable time-like loop that causes the Whenwolves you despise to exist so Thank that causality you love so much for that.

So in World Seed in your Grove once you make it to its maximum size is there anyway to make another or a workaround to get it bigger?

>>54412920
God damn it, what you just said is so stupid I can't even see straight. I'm not joking, my vision is blurring as some sort of reflexive defense from my body to keep me from reading your nonsense. Bancho. Whenwolves...are not real. There is no closed timelike loop going on here. Because of that, I obviously do not actually despise them, and so it's clear (to everyone with properly functioning brains) that I was just making a dumb joke. Also, if they're time traveling, they're very explicitly not following causality. That's acausal behavior. Literally everything you said just now is fundamentally wrong on every possible level. Now if you'll excuse me, I think I need to go have a lie-down and rest my eyes. Because that vision blurring thing wasn't a joke. It really wasn't.

>>54412364
>The choices that you make for locking out perks, locking out items, or telling the reader that they explicitly can't learn certain things needs to be explained inside the document, not explained as a response to commentary. If you don't add it in, anyone who doesn't know the setting won't know why you put it in.

I did explain in the jump document why things are locked....example: if you read the magic say Time Magic and Space Magic they oppose each other. IN GAME you aren't give more than that...maybe time fucked space's sister so they are beefing...I don't know. So I can't say more then I am given. And yes I took some creative licenses but I wanted to say faithful to the source. That is one of the reasons I loved Saga Frontier. Not as much as Saga Frontier 2 as they finally instead focused on two very world changing events and repercussions felt throughout that time period.

In Game you are give your choice of scenarios...Blue or Red or Emelia or T2605 or Allesus while you meet these characters if you don't choose them at the start you don't do their storylines or their missions. You don't go and fight Black X as Allesus her focus is the Charm Lord. You don't deal with Joker as Blue your mission is getting life magic. It is like me and you exist on the same planet but our lives don't intersect...we talk but I am not trying to save your sister and you aren't trying to revive my dead cat...

however, thank you for feedback..

do creatures you turn into monster girls with that ss13 perk have intelligence?

>>54413070
>turn into monster girls with that ss13 perk

Tell me more, where is this from.

>>54413141
...Space Station 13? It's one of the Librarian capstones.

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>>54412643
Evolving Mutant Werething was a chain idea I was toying around with. Go to jumps like Gunnm and Resident Evil to become a non-magicial constantly evolving monstrosity. If you just want to be a regular werewolf Hellsing and Overlord are probably the best, but literally every fantasy jump seems to have a werewolf option.

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The Adventures of an Aspiring Archmage Chapter 1: Morroblivion

Origin: Mage [100]
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Race: Dunmer
Location: Cyrodil
Birthsign: The Mage
Perks:
Fortify Magicka [100]
Resist Magicka [100]
Ancestor Guardian [0]
Conjurer [150]
Alchemist [150]
Enchanter [200]
Necromancer [200]
Spellmaker [300]

Drawbacks:
Adoring Fan [+200]
Outlander [+100]

In Tales of God And Devil Cultivation:
What level do you thing you will become bulletproof, I mean I can see the tons lift strength but I dont know the durability

>>54413015

You are really overreacting

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>>54413233
It's not easy. No matter how much you've fantasized about it, waking up in another world in another's body – an inhuman one at that – is something you simply can't be prepared for by living a normal life. But at the same time, there was a sense of excitement, almost giddiness.

I was in a world where magic was REAL. Not only that, but I already had knowledge in my mind of how to use it. After I acclimated to the situation somewhat, I spent nearly a whole day simply using magic. For no particular purpose, just because I could. It was amazing, something beyond anything I'd ever experienced. To shape the world with my will… I felt like a god.
And then, he showed up. How he found me, I have no idea, but that fucking elf simply came waddling out of the treeline with that stupid smile on his face, practically tripping over himself to praise me even though I hadn't really done anything. It was… bemusing at first. But then it quickly became apparent that he was not going to leave me alone. I tried everything I could think of, racking my mind for knowledge of spells implanted in it. I tried an invisibility spell and simply sneaking away, but he stepped from behind a tree and nearly scared me shitless. I tried charming Jim and convincing him to leave, but he seemingly didn't even notice the spell. I even tried having a skeleton hold him in place while I ran away, but surely enough he simply appeared a few minutes after he was out of site.

Resolving myself to his presence, I went to find some food and drink. Only to remember that I had no way to actually pay for anything. Luckily it’s easy enough to find food with magic. Of course, a stolen apple and a rabbit charred by magic aren't exactly a grand supper, but it did keep me alive.

>>54413056
I think by now you should realize that not everyone who reads your document is going to be on the same page as you. No one knows that you put in one line fiats because that's all you have to go by. Realistically, no one knows what creative licenses you may have taken, or whether you're faithful to the source or not.

You can't seem to separate between the game's mechanics and the world that's within it, but that's your choice since you're the jumpmaker. If you feel that what you've made is good and reflects what you want to see in the setting, upload it to the drive, I don't see anybody else raising any problems in any case.

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>>54413284
I also managed to find the local Mage's Guild hall and asked about admission. But… no one seemed particularly keen on my presence. They told me what I'd need to do for membership, but other than that I was mostly met with disinterest at best and scowls at worst. Honestly I couldn't blame them with the annoying elf following me around every step I took.

Still, I managed to gain admission and over the course of months, I worked my way up, earning respect and even friendship, all the while increasing my skill with the arcane. I even grew accustomed to the presence of my… fan. And then, just as things were going well, it all had to go to shit. A literal hellhole opened up and spewed forth demons. The guards mounted what resistance they could, but the city was quickly being met with the threat of being overrun. I helped out as much as I could, summoning, throwing destruction magic, and healing the wounded.

>>54413015
Tryhard,

Terashitting is a long, time-honored tradition within the snowflake walls of our containment thread. However, flipping shit at everything he says is retarded and it lessens the impact of legitimate witch-hunting after he steps on his fetish-infested dick or casually says something staggeringly immoral and or dangerous. I know there's the impetus to be part of the cool kids, even here, gods know why, but restrain yourself unless or until he says something worth rhetorical flaying.

Thank you.

>>54413314
But it looked like all we could do was stem the tide. Until a stranger ran into the midst and cut down several daedra. He yelled something about knowing how to close the gate from the inside and started cutting a path straight through the demonic hordes. Despite how terrible of an idea it was, I found myself following after him – my fan right behind me, of course.

We fought – or rather the superhuman cleaving daedroth in twain did, I mostly offered support – our way through a hellish landscape and up the tallest tower. We tore out a glowing orb from the summit and found ourselves standing in the mundane world once again. We were met with shock from those who were still there; not that I could blame them, I hardly beloved we were still alive either. The shock quickly turned to cheers as they rushed forth to greet us, but the stranger muttered something about having a mission and slipped away, leaving the crowd to greet me… and the elf, as heroes. We were given a heroes feast even though we hadn't particularly done much and the city actually started celebrating our presence instead of barely tolerating us.
I returned to my studies after this but soon grew restless and set out to find adventure. Before I knew it, my anniversary of 10 years in this world slipped up on me and I felt all fade to black.

>>54413195
The only werewolf I remember in Overlord was that maid and she doesn't really do anything, does she?

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>>54413361
I know nothing about Overlord but im 90% sure being a cute wolf girl alone is worth something

>>54413329
>legitimate witch-hunting
That's fucking hilarious.

>>54413410
I didn't think anyone would catch that

>>54412643
The Elder Scrolls is good to werewolves in general. Hircine is a bro who grants the transformation into a werewolf as a blessing of the hunt. He'd probably love to meet a transdimensional werewolf disciple.

>>54413329
>>54413410
seriously, I get Ragging on me but you have to drag my mom into this?

>>54412643
>favorite werewolves
Skyrim/Elder Scrolls

>Why
I really like the lore behind them, and the werewolf form was fun to use in-game despite some of the drawbacks.

>What would you change about them if you could?
I would make some of the mods I use to improve their design canon.

>>54410986
Mage capstone picks need to be discounted.
>Because (X) Magic opposes (Y)
Magic, it is impossible to have both. If you take the Gift: (X) Magic you can't have Gift: (Y) Magic or learn any of those spells
This in inaccurate. You can have the gift for one magic and buy common spells for its opposite. And relearn the spells you have a gift for through the gift.

>>54413467
Dude, stop. I don't have enough restraint for this.

>>54413467
You realize that it's an oxymoron right?

>>54413252
Maybe, but it's an honest overreaction. My vision really did go blurry, I know that sounds like a dumb joke but it actually happened. I'm not trying too hard like >>54413329 suggests. Maybe this is a sign of some looming health problem, I don't know. But I've taken some time away from the thread to eat dinner, and I'm feeling better now.

>>54413457
To be fair, most werewolves aren't like the Companions. Their transformation is only as controllable as it is because they made a pact with witches to get their powers. Most werewolves are unwilling people with no control over their transformation who become blood crazed monsters.

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Jumper needs an army of dragons, where can jumper get dragons to breed an army with?

>>54413233
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>>54413314
>>54413334
Good stuff. Hope to see more of this chain.

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>>54413361
Short of Hellsing, Overlord probably has the most powerful werewolf form by virtue of just the setting's powerlevel in general. The ability to be a fluffy wolfguy/girl when you aren't a monstrous killing machine is just a bonus. Hellsing is good because it has the most utility with on the fly form change and the mist ability, being mute for the jump's duration sucks though.

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>>54413584

Fire Emblem Awakening or go to the shadow realm jump and get the perk that allows you to transform people into blue eyes and then go to a jump that gives you followers like Val's Warhammer Bretton jump and turn your follower arm from there into Dragons

>>54413457
>>54413468
Can they only change once a day canonically or is that just a game mechanic thing?

>>54413584
Is them being dragon-like acceptable? Because if you've got a Tyranid Swarm you could make some pretty draconic bioforms.

>>54413553
If you take an anon with a nametag pretending to have a fantasy mary sue lifestyle this seriously, then you're already paying far too much attention to him. You might as well be subscribing to his twitter account and retweeting his posts.

>>54413584
How to Train Your Dragon.

Duel Monsters: The Shadow Realm has spells that can grant Blue Eyes White Dragon or Red Eyes Black Dragon Alt-forms.

Overlord, and I think maybe the D&D jumps have spells to summon dragons but they're temporary.

>>54413468
Which mods do you use?

>>54413584
I hate to be a shill once more, but the Dragon capstone in Fire Emblem Elibe is perfect for your needs.

>>54412643
I like Wolfir from Innistrad. As I understand it, they were originally ordinary cursed Werewolves, who then became purified by Avacyn, and became sort of Spirit Werewolves. I was disappointment when the Innistrad Jump didn't offer a fiat-backed Perk for being one.

>>54413617
Oh wow, someone actually read that? Thanks! I'll post some more in a little while.

>>54413636
I think it's a game mechanic thing, but they canonically are left really tired after shifting back, and the shift is not exactly a pleasant experience. Not as bad as some werewolves, but still not very fun. They seem a bit ecstatic once in werewolf form however, and the first time you do it you might go a little crazy due to instincts.

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>>54412643
Hellsing Werewolves are one of my favorites, though the loss of voice is a big downside.

Honestly though, my favorite Were-creature has always been Moonrats from Dungeons and Dragons. The neatest thing is, instead of getting stronger and bigger when the moon is full, they get smarter depending on the phase of the moon. When it's full and there were a bunch of them gathered together, they're smarter than some wizards!

It always struck me as a really creative idea and I've always been sad I wasn't able to incorporate them into a campaign in a meaningful way.

>>54413584
Well, if I can shill for a moment, Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen has a Dragon racial option so /you/ can be a dragon. It also has the side effect of allowing you to recruit MORE DRAGONS into your army. It even gives you a boost for trying to convince the especially powerful three to join in as well.

>>54413233
>>54413284
>>54413314
>>54413334
Pretty good start to an adventure. Are you bringing your annoying fan with you?

>>54413680
The Wolfir are pretty cool. Maybe if Innistrad ever gets an update?