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CYOA - Suicide Edition

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>>54397907
Maybe in this thread people will actually post CYOAs instead of shit posting.
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CYOA - Actually interesting CYOAs instead of waifu fecesposting Edition
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Just read pic related

What's a cyoa that lets me manage a small group of super heroes, improving their stats, start an organization, enslave mooks, build, research things, manage resources, and slowly rise to the top of a city-state run by a super villain?
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>>54397938
That would be nice. I would join you, but the sedatives are starting to kick in.
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>>54397999
The one you make yourself
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Why don't we have more urban fantasy cyoas?
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>>54397999
My project that was supposed to be right after CATastrophe that I postponed because I want to move Apocalypse up the list and get working on that right after I'm done with this one.
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>>54398018
Well, I'll join anyways. But if I fuck up, that's because the letters are all dancing around.
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>>54397999
No clue, but if you find one post that shit. We need more super hero related cyoas.
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>>54398018
I'm fairly sure we have already posted more in this thread then the entire previous thread. Good job everyone.
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Was there ever an update for this?
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>>54398094
Not sure exactly what you mean by urban fantasy, can you elaborate?
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>>54398113
Page
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>>54398082
Really? Thats freat!

>>54398096
Onward!
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>>54398046
I know you're bullshitting me sda, but you're use of tomboy forces my hand to respond.

>>54398049
Well that book reads like a super hero cyoa. At times it's borders on blatant wish fulfillment, but hey, isn't that what cyoa is all about?
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>>54398113
Not sure, I don't think so?
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>>54398124
You know what urban fantasy is when you get common fantasy elements/supernatural ones mixed in with a modern setting
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>>54398135
Big fan of royal revival, probably one of my top 3 favorites at this point. So much depth in just 9 pages.
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>>54397938
Why not do both?
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>>54398186
Does the gifted CYOA II'm posting count as urban fantasy?
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>>54398151
It's one of the few I have. Honestly I usually see a ton of overlap with the content of quest threads and CYOAs, except for a curious lack of superhero CYOAs compared to quest.
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>>54398196
Great idea, friend. (:
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>>54398187
I get where you are coming from, man.
Getting to wiggly to keep going though, so good nicght.

>>54398210
Love you all, faggots. G'night.
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>>54398276
Gnight man, sleep well and have a wonderful morning tomorrow.
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>>54397938
i've yet to see that ever happen here.
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posting best CYOA
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>>54398124
>Power Source
Experimental

>Changes
Emotional- None
Physical- None
Mental- None
Life- Leech
Memory- Fresh Start (40)
Spiritual- Magnet (45)

>Gifts
Healing (43)
Teleportation, Quick Step (35)
Vitality, Immunity (29)
Empathy, Influence (26)
Athleticism, Peak Human (19)
Tongues (17)
Friend of Nature (14)
Charm (11)
Mind Control (-9)
Mechanics (-12)

>Curses
Emotional Link (-5)
Cycles, Monthly (0)

>Guardian
Nobody

>Home
Withermouth

>Allies
Leah Dawson, Kate Fox, Liam Black
Julie Slater, Isaac Bowman

>Perks
Boarding School
Inheritance
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>>54397907
>kind hearted generous girl who likes bondage
Alira! We'll be philanthropist rulers and make lots of laws to alleviate poverty! m-maybe she'll discover she likes doing the tying sometimes too.
They're all nice though, especially Betty and Lenora.

>>54398285
The Sister. I'll s-show her my army and see if she likes it. It's little versions of her!
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>>54398354
I always found it kind of bland. It's pretty but shallow.
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>>54398464
unnecessary depth will drown the fun
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>>54398018

Ravyn Mallor: Witchy Princess

>Princess
Obvious choice.
>Study Room
Good for studying magic.
>Diana
Teach me to be inspiring and work on looks.
>Vinian Toast
Yummy!

>Spirit Dye
Great for witches.
>Midnight Sarcophagus
Good for witches.
>Alchemy Starter Kit
Good for witches.

>Stone King Dessian
Can teach me ancient secrets that might be helpful for magic and stuff and is good husband for me.

>Pouf
Seems nice and can teach me about alchemy.
>Suice
Fellow witch and forbidden love interest.

>Dark Magic
Good for witches.
>Charisma
Not exactly my thing, but as Princess might be good to be able to give good speeches when I must.
>Fashion
Do magic and look spectacular while doing it!
>Regal Hobbies
So I can be a better Princess.

>Reaper Witch
What I've been preparing for all this time!

>Help Test New Magic
Want to learn all the newest spells.
>Destroy a Dark Spirit
That's like literally my job!
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>>54398496
But not enough depth simply leads to boredom as in this case.
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>>54398354

Vyora Arfaris

Class
>Sorceress
Attributes
>Str +++
>Def +++++
>Agi ++++ (+++)
>Int ++++++++++ (+++)
>Ski ++++
Blessing
>+1 Skill Point

Skills
Magical
>Catalysts
>Finesse
>Arcane
>Combine
>Barriers
Spiritual
>One With Nature
>Poisons
>Bloodlust
>Bindings
>Soul Spirit
Ethereal
>Indomitable
>Recall
>Pocketing
>Blessed
>Unleash
>Healing
>Wings

Monsters
>Arachnid 20
>Wolf 40
>Cerberus 70

Persona
>Age 5 (22yo)
>Beauty 10
Resources
>Library 20
>Alchemy 30
>Training 35
>Scavenging 40
>Map 45
>Bounty 50
>Low 70

Adventure with group more than alone. I can use Healing, Barriers, and Bindings to help the party. For fighting I mostly spam arcane bolt type stuff from the air. I can also make potions at the alchemy to help party out or to sell and trade.
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>>54398339
My computer just took a shit and died. Stay away from windows 10.
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>>54398341
Yet here we are, finally achieving my dream of people posting cyoas and generally enjoying themselves in a CYOAg thread.
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>>54398151
>I know you're bullshitting me
No, that's genuinely one of my projects. It's gonna be more of a post-apocalypse thing in a city though (with lots of /k/-levels of gun autism), but I probably won't get to it until next year.

If you like power armour and mechs, you might like the other project, and it still kind of fits the bill of what you described. You'll be forming a crew of 4 supersoldiers-in-power armour.

My WIPs are a convoluted mess right now.
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>>54398496
There's a balance, I don't think monster hunter achieved it.
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>>54398496
Shallowness was always my problem with the CYOA. Everything is basically "because God says so." The setting is virtually non-existent, no mention of even things like politics or social norms.

Still doesn't mean it's not a decent CYOA but there's not much to it, really.
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>>54398285
The Emperor. Only real choice really
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>>54398605
Oh damn.

Well, please accept my apology and this tomo.
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>>54398738
I'm a big fan of the khornate zerker.
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>>54398804
>>54398819
Here's the PDF version
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>>54398771
Tomo graciously accepted.

Don't get your hopes up, though. I'm a slow worker with no free time.
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>>54398354
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/52974892/#52977666
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You damn kids and your newfangled image formats.
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>>54398833
Don't worry about it. We'll all forget about it in a thread or two, and maybe in a few months you'll pop it out of nowhere to much fanfare and surprise.

I believe in you.
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>>54398954
Welp I seem to be the only one posting anymore. Goodnight yall.
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>>54397999
Any good waifu CYOA?
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>>54398771
You're so lucky that senpai noticed you.
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>>54399011
seconding this, I want the author waifu CYOAs
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>>54399011
>Tfw you wrote the most reasonable waifu but nobdy picked her
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>>54397999
Sounds more like a super complex CYOA that turns out to be a VN.
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>Prince Venor
>Bodyguard
>Strength 3, Lifeforce 3, Durability 3, Agility 2
>Intellect 1, Aura of Intimidation, Aura of Attraction
>Spy Network 1, Uncanny Senses 2, Operational Leeway 1, Seductive Form 1
>Religious Ed, Magical Ed, Historic Ed, Combat Veteran, Personal Steed, Inspiring Presence
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Updates since last posting:

* Critical: Figure of Legend reincarnates as long as their legend lives on, losing Fate Points each time. So, now all the first three options reincarnate. Figure of Legend has more points to start, but is the only one that loses points with each death.

* Fate Modifiers altered, more added. (Soldier split into "Metahuman" and "General". Wizard made less costly, but also more limited)

* Can revoke companion status from anyone (so that you don't feel compelled to kill them to revoke their status).

* Nearly Mortal reduced in points for Fates which reincarnate without penalty.
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>>54399215
Which one did you make?
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>>54399215
Was it jeanne?
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>>54399265
Samantha
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>>54399283
I would have guessed Jeanne.
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>>54399215
tay is EASILY best girl here. Immacia is the second best choice
hell, I was already in love with tay
;_;

>>54399240
Vampiric immortality (duh)
Genesis paper
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>>54393795
>Necromancer's not that long
My immaculately perfect ass it isn't!
I started this build near the middle of last thread and I only just finished it.
Though to be fair, It is going to take somewhere around five posts to dump the whole thing, so it's partially my fault.
Regardless, a promise is a promise.
>>54392622
>>54392888
Hope you're still here, Anon.
I did this for you.
[Race]
>Elf
Partly because I like being pretty and lithe.
Partly because I like the idea of being an elf that rejects the tree hugging, “holier than thou” bullshit they’re know.
Partly because I couldn't find any good pictures of attractive, blonde tieflings.
“Why yes, I do have my spear. I’ve used it to stab a great many things over the years. It’s long and powerful and I keep it in my pants. Want to see it?”
[God]
>The Child
If I'm going to worship anything, it's going to be something that loves me.
The Mother’s appealing because I’m strangely drawn to sun worship, but the Child’s mysterious duality speaks to me much more.
[Grimoire]
>Kroveri Hæma
I’ve always been a sucker for blood magic and any kind of ability that heals me based on the damage I do.
[Tier 4 Spells]
>Pulse of Calm
Being able to control the emotions of others is one of the most powerful and alluring abilities imaginable, in my opinion anyway.
>Blood Boil
Being able to cause this much pain that easily will definitely come in handy…
>Lift Blood Stain
Can never have enough blood!
[Tier 3 Spells]
>Bloodthirsty Weapon
Yes. Just yes. Everything about this is awesome.
I’ll need to make sure not to use the weapon too often though if I want to avoid becoming a murderous psychopath.
>Blood Memories
Blood Tracking is arguably more practical, but being able to read the thoughts of anyone, dead or living, is not something to scoff at.

Cont'd next post.
Strap in, this may take a while.
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>>54398004
I like this one, but 25 points is just too restricted for me to be able to enjoy it. Too many top tier options that utterly cripple and destroy your point pool for just trying to take one.
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>>54399283
She was one of my higher priority picks, but I'd honestly go with Blue (minus the edge).
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>>54399376
>Create Nosteratu
One can never have enough slaves…
Originally picked Create Thrall instead, but when I was the minions I realized that apparently Nosferatu were the less grotesque of the two. I have no need for ugly servants…
[Tier 2 Spells]
>Hæmohïlia
This is exactly why I choose to specialize in the Kroveri Hæma. Feeling from consuming blood is an awesome idea.
>Empower Bloodline (-μ15)
I’m going to empower myself to be fucking gorgeous.
>Blood Pact (-μ15)
Being able to force those to serve me over penalty of death with words alone is almost seductively appealing to me.
Forcing others to do the same thing just sounds like a fun thing to do to pass the time.
>Blood Runs Dark
This spell is vital to my survival and needed if I am to continue walking in the Mother’s light, whether she approves of me or not.
[Tier 1 Spells]
>Vampirism
Is there really any need for the other choices?
Vampirism is why I choose the Kroveri Hæma to begin with.
They’re a bit cliche, but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t love to be one.
I wish I still had a group to play World of Darkness with…
[Companions]
>Kaija
What can I say? I like the idea of saving damsels in distress and making them undyingly loyal to me.
>Seir Ejisa
Okay, she just sounds fun.
Plus, a little extra muscle never hurt anyone.
>Shanina (-μ10)
I’m a Vampire, not a fucking monster! She didn’t ask to be made an abomination, she deserves just as much as anyone else!
I just want to hold her and keep her safe.
>Sasha & Sir Henry (-μ10)
I want to protect her smile and help her grow. I hope I can make her father proud.
>Rauha the Reaper (-μ10)
I can’t see any downside in endearing myself to death and I’d love to keep her company.
I’m sure I’ll understand what it’s like to be hated just because of who you are or what you do.
>Ivana (-μ10)
Acquire cute daughteru and get free bone golems. What’s not to like?

Not even CLOSE to done!
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>>54398306
>Golem
>Shield & Sword
>Heavy Melee (15)
>Flight Armour (35)
>Regen Armour (51)
>Launched Explosives (66)
>Medium Gun (73)
>Restored Explosives (95)
>Magic Ammo (110)

I'm a giant golem that can fly. I've got a heavy melee to smack people, launched explosives for ranged attacks and a built-in assault rifle for anything explosives would be too much for.
>Extra Special
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>>54399411
>Ela (-μ10)
Do I get a bonus for collecting all the daughterus?
>Vereena (-μ10)
I have no issue making a habit out of taking in strays and outcasts. All are welcome in my layer, so long as they remain loyal solely to me.
>Nerrti (-μ10)
Might be a tad bit difficult to keep her around after she realizes I’m a vampire and not a pharaoh, but I do so love being worshiped so I’ll work around it.
>Melanya (-μ10)
Seems like she could afford to to loosen up a little, but she’ll make an excellent commander for my forces when I can’t be on the field and she’s cute.
>Valeriya (-μ10)
...Witch harem get?
[Minions]
>Vampire Bride (-μ3)
Men can serve me… But I don’t trust them nearly as much as nice, devoted female minion.
And two for the price of one, so fuck yeah!
>Vampire Guardian x2 (-μ24)
I’ve always been a fan of having two loyal, almost unkillable servants that live to protect me.
Hopefully I can get a couple that look something like pic related.
>Slaves x2 (-μ2)
I can make plenty Vampires, Dhampirs, and Vampire Knights whenever I found someone worthy of my embrace.
For now, a good 20 slaves should take care of things around the Lair while I bolster my forces.
I’ll make sure to treat them kindly and, should any of them impress or endear themselves to me, I may offer them the reward of my embrace.
[Perks]
>Bloodcrafter
FUCK YEAH! EUGENICS MASTERY FOR FREE!
>Silver Tongue
>Gold Tongue
Violence is all well and good, but I’ve always prefered to solve my problems through words.
I will still makes fuckers suffer if they piss me off enough, of course.

Next post, yada yada.
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>>54399476
>ZBG was actually Endeavor all along
who knew?
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>>54399476
[Enemies]
>Angry Mob (μ+2)
Why is my food supply listed under the Enemies section?
>Watchers (μ+3)
Fuck these guys. I’ll eat them too.
>Psychotic Count (μ+4)
Killing nobles is fun.
Killing inbred nobles is even better.
>Death-Fearing Duke (μ+7)
I get another noble to snack on AND his lands will be mine to take after I’m done?
Fuck yeah! Sign me up!
>Solaris Paladin (μ+8)
Oh hey! Vampire Knight ingredients!
>Vampire Hunter (μ+10)
Psh, I can take her. Probably...
>Fair One Huntress (μ+12)
Ohoho… I do so love turning the tables on those hunting me…
She’ll make a wonderful slave once I’m done with her.
>Solaris Crusader (μ+18)
Okay, this guy’s going to be tricky to take on, but eternal life without a bit of challenge isn’t really any fun.
>Murderhobos (μ+30)
My master will be avenged! Assuming I have enough time to prepare and followers to take them on!
[Drawbacks]
>Single-Minded (+μ3)
I only chose spells from the Kroveri Hæma anyway.
>Bounty (+μ10)
Come at me, ya bunch of Van Helsing wannabes!
[Nation]
>The Untamed Lands - Lorekhmu
Far away from the most powerful civilizations?
Check.
Sweet deserts I can rule over?
Double Check.
Close to the resting place of my chosen deity?
Tripple Check.
Yes, this nation will do perfectly...
[Lair]
>Grand Palace
All I ever wanted was to rule over a desert from an awe-inspiring palace…
Having lovely sounding woman to manipulate, dominate, and/or usurp just makes the whole place even more perfect!
[Faction]
>Rose Sanguine
Now these are my kind of people!

HOLY SHIT I FIT IT INTO FOUR POSTS!
Alright, that's all done, now tell me why my build sucks!
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>>54399508
>why your build sucks
You're the one that picked vampire.
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>>54399376
>>54399411
>>54399476
>>54399508
It is I, the anon from earlier! Your build is not only valid and cool, but you put much effort into it!
for the record, I never said necromancer wasn't long, just that it wasn't very complicated
but seriously, good fucking job. I actually had fun reading it
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>>54399251

It's going to be impossible to get every kind of magic with Figure of Legend now;_;
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>>54398113
Bride:
Shaylee - she's a cute shortstack who's dtf. Why would I pick anyone else?

I'm just gonna skip the hypno-love potion crap.

>Horns, Antlers, Tongue, Large, Luminous
She wanted to marry a big feller. Don't come much bigger (or stronger or tougher) than me. On top of this I doubt I'm gonna have much trouble surviving as king, I'm nigh indestructible and very likable.
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>>54399251
Do things like Mage Eye or Godslayer have any use in solo?
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>>54399555
There, there, angel-anon. It was going to be impossible with the new schools I'm adding anyway. To be frank it's not as interesting if your answer to the question: "Which magic do you buy?" is "ALL OF THEM"

World of Myth and Wonder DLC will make it possible, though! Assuming you don't mind a high magic world.
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>>54399574
Godslayer is useful if you have a Nemesis. Mage Eye is useful if you have imbued magic throughout the population.

But, in general, they are much less useful. Low cost, though.
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>>54388391
Yellow: 6
Green: 3
Blue: 6
Purple: 5
Pink: 3
Red: 6
Black: 0

Blue Primary, Yellow Secondary

Ley Line Magic

Yellow:
Normalify+
Charm+
Libido
Sensitivity

Yellow Corruption:
Slut
Urges

Blue:
Spatial+
Summon
Time+
Mind Sculpt

Blue Corruption:
Magomaniac
Magic Feedback

Planeswalker (15)

I think I have two spare points but I do not want extra corruption
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>>54398124
>Psychic Energy
>Emotional No change (30)
>Physical Sickly (37)
>Mental Enhanced (31)
>Life Leech (31)
>Memory No Change (31)
>Spiritual Magnet (36)

Gifts
Telekinesis (32)
>Precision (30)
>Power (27)
Pyrokinesis (24)
>Control (21)
>Catalyst (19)
>Source (14)
Future Sight (12)
>Relevant (11)
Mind Reading (7)
>Deep Dive (4)
Mind Control (-6)
>Functional (-11)
Healing (-13)
>Self Service (-18)
>Miracle (-21)
Psychometry (-22)
Levitation (-24)
>Flight (-29)
Apporation (-31)
Teleportation (-35)
>Quick Step (-39)
Invisibility (-44)
Vitality (-47)
>Immunity (-50)
>Painless (-47)
Athleticism (-51)
>Peak Human (-54)
>Raw Power (-60)
Barrier (-63)
>Permanent (-66)
>Wide (-68)
Tongues (-70)
>Non-verbal (-71)
Blessing (-75)
Curse (-79)
Pain (-84)
Weather Control (-87)
>Precision (-90)
Mechanics (-93)
>Inner Focus (-97)

Curses
>Unsettling (-92)
>Emotional Link (-85)
>Empathy (-78)
>Inhuman (-73)
>Asexual (-68)
>Neutered (-66)
>Animal Foes (-58)
>Sadism (-50)
>Insomnia (-41)
>Addiction (Caffeine) (-35)
>Sacrifice (-25)
Extra points from overcome perks (8)
Extra powers
Possession (2)
>Subtlety (0)

Guardian: Nobody.
Home: Yarrow Falls
Allies
>Leah Dawson
>Derek Wright
>Mia Cross
>Loise Webb
>Joseph Harrison.
Perks: Overcome (2)
Running out of space here, will think of a story later.
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>>54399582

I just wanted to be the most powerful sorceress like in the last RP. But we'll see.
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>>54399670
>I just wanted to be the most powerful sorceress like in the last RP.

sounds boring
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>>54399670
I actually think you should be able to buy just as many magics as in the last RP, or more. It's just that there will be more magics now.

120 points + 30 drawbacks + 10 shared worlds -35 wizard = 125 to spend. For the seven schools you choose for wizard, you can master them with 35 points. 40 if you want to be able to imbue one. That leaves another 85 points to spend normally. So, you could buy another, say, seven schools at 10 points each. get even more with sorcerer supreme. You can still get pretty ridiculous with it.
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>>54399251
Figure of legend retains memories or no?
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>>54399251
Figure of Legend definitely seems like a trap.
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>>54398004
EzPz

Blindness for +6 pt

>Kitchen + Dining 7 pt
>Add Oven/microwave/toaster/fridge 3pt
>buy lbs and lbs of rice that won't spoil to "save" budget for future weeks

>Hygeine equipment 1pt
>High quality 2pt

>Toilet Sink Upgrade 2pt

>Jumpsuit 1pt

>Shower 1pt
>Hot Water 2pt

>Med Machine 3pt

>Music 1pt
>Downloads 2pt
>Guitar 2pt
>Guitar/Music Lessons (as broad as I can get away with) 4pt

Yeah having social contact is nice but not 2/5ths of my budget nice. Having your own kitchen is top tier, especially since it doubles as room space expansion. Instrument + Lessons seems like the most cost effective way to entertain myself, and music is cheap enough/important enough to me personally to be worth splurging on.

Blindness is basically free given that the default cell arrangement is so small and constant. Why would you ever pick the night terrors or whispering options those sound terrible.
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>>54399751
It does; I'll clarify that next time.

>>54399768
It's a risk, no doubt. But it's *less* of a risk than the last edition, since before it was just "if you die, you're dead".
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>>54388328
I don't even have that many fetishes and I spent a fun 2~3 hours making my build, probably my favorite sexcentric CYOA.
Thanks, Tok.
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>>54399717

It wasn't boring. There was another character who was stronger than me, just not in magic stuff. And I was in a "battle" of sorts with a trickster God who wasn't making things easy for me.

>>54399724

Sounds good. I'm sure it'll be lots of fun with lots of magic:)
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>>54397938
Posin my old build

>Captain of the Guard
>Sorolona
>Princess Sira
>Personal Powers
Superhuman Intellect III
Superhuman Agility I
Master of the Wilds
>Intrigue Powers
Arts of Alchemy II
Uncanny Sense
Unnatural Stealth
Visions of the Present
>Leadership Powers
Combat Veteran
Engineering Degree
Environmental Degree
Historic Education
Magical Education
Religious Education
Inspiring Presence
Escape Charm
The Age of Empires "Sorolona & Bleuria"
Eric Keirstrat
Alana Hesberg
Willhelm Delthak
Earl Jorn Blackbay
Admiral Han Makai

Sorolona & Bleuria are both kingdoms with both unique resources and military strength. with the help of princess sira we'll travel to Bleuria to set up an alliance should they accept we shall unify both nation to usher in a new era of both technological and industrial change with the help of Alana Hesberg and Willhelm Delthak. Admiral Han Makai will be in charge of making sure the nations fleet is up to or above the standard required to maintain, hold, and protect our shipping lanes. knowing that the rise in our power a lot of nations shall be gunning for us so ill have Eric Keirstrat and his network ensure there is no cloak and daggers going on within or about the nation.
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>>54399958
Is there more to this one? Looks neat.

I love wizardly CYOAs.
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>>54399495
>tfw you still haven't watched BnHA
Should I be insulted or proud of this?
>>54399549
>doesn't want to live forever feasting of the life of lesser beings and being otherworldly attractive monarch of a kingdom full of your progeny and thralls
>pic related
>>54399550
I'm glad I was able to deliver for you!
I don't always post builds, but when I do, they're filled with me explaining why I picked what I did and/or flowery, autistic RP nonsense.
Now off to make an even lewder and more autistic build for Eronomicon!
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Here's a very, very early draft of a lewd CYOA I'm working on, just to gauge interest. Should I continue, or work on one of the other projects i have on the burner?

Planned content, besides what's hinted at, include clothing and room selections, a companion section, and the ending selection post-stock-show.

The astute may guess the old CYOA I stole the core mechanic from...
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>>54400230
Oh, please direct all comments to the post I'll be making in the /trash/ thread.
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>>54400240
>>54400230
Why? No reason people can't post and talk about it here.
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>>54400304
Fair enough. I've got both tabs open anyway.
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>>54400134
I'm afraid that's all.
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>>54397938
Dran Alabaster, The Undaunted

>Captain of the Guard

>Serves:
Princess Esther of Bleuria

>Powers:

-Superhuman Strength 2, Superhuman Agility 2, Superhuman durability 2, Enduring Life-force 2

-Uncanny Senses 2, Operational Leeway 2, Spy Network 2, Foreign Informant 2 (Informants in Torvalli, Yaserla, Sorolona, and The Holy Realm W/ a radical cell in The Holy Realm.)

-The Age of Empires (Unite Blueria with Delvaria), Inspiring Presence, Combat Veteran, History Education, Environmental Degree, Engineering Degree, Magical Education, Secret Hideout, Chest of Gold, Sandra Tennean, Captain Ali Ornsten, Admiral Han Makai, Alana Hesberg

>Drawbacks:
Unpopular opinion (+1 Personal)
Dark Accusation (+1 Intrigue)
Bones of the Earth (+2 Intrigue)
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>>54388328
So is it true that you need to turn into a girl in this CYOA?
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>>54400357
No, that's just a common theme in the drawback section. I believe...
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>>54400371
Then what alternatives are there?
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>>54400400
shit ones, generally. Nice digits though
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>>54400409
Well hopefully people convince him to change his mind? He seems scarce today.
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>>54400400
I don't understand your question. Alternatives to what? Turning into a girl? If you need to pick a drawback, just don't pick those.
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>>54400418
Well I'm reading the page right now, and it seems like there are only three options in general:

1. Turn into a girl.

2. Mind rape until personality death

3. Get raped

And because your drawback choices are dictated by your spell colors, it seems like you're basically going to be forced to dabble in all 3, since you can only pick one 'become a girl' option and there's only 3 choices per option.

So yeah, becoming a woman seems almost mandatory, since the alternatives are to be turned into someone else entirely or spend all your time being raped. It's too restrictive.
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>>54400437
Ah. That seems to be a common complaint with Tokhaar Gol's latest offering. Mandatory drawbacks are always a risky design choice.
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>>54400416
Don't expect much. Tokhaar is proud of being perverted to such a degree he can't actually be considered a sexual being as much as a parody of one.
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>>54400230
I want to sell corn. Corn porn.
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>>54400230
I can dig it. Will there be more in depth options for roles you're trained to fill, like cow girls doubling as nursemaids and the equivalent of a kindergarten teacher?
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>>54400457
Not like anyone's telling him to make it less perverted or anything.
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>>54388328
>Normalization
...I've only finished the yellow list and I've already encountered a fetish I've never heard of and can't find through google.
Can anyone that's less vanilla than I am tell me what the fuck that is?
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>>54400503
It's when anything you do seems normal to everyone else. Sexually.
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>>54400455
It'd be fine if you actually GAINED something from them, but what powers you can have are already pretty damn restricted without unavoidable and generally shit drawbacks.
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>>54400503
I don't even have to look to know it's probably either reverse gyaru (making girls pure) or literally normalization (making a fetish common).
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>>54400503
When people think that someone being a sex-addled mutant is perfectly normal
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>>54400480
I... uh... what? I don't think I'll be able to help you there...

Damn it. You just gave me an idea for a time slot option where you sell corn on the side of the road in return for an indulgence point. Stupid sexy imagination.

>>54400485
Wasn't planning on it. In fact, One of the options I was planning on was a bimbofication option that could be upgraded into near-total insensibility. The theme is farm life on a perverted ranch. you'll sped most leisure time with either other livestock or the ranch hands.
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>>54400522
>>54400532
>>54400535
Alrighty, so basically I don't get the point because I'm into none of those!
Thanks, guys!
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>>54400542
I wanna use my sociopathy and genius cow-level intellect to take over the farm and turn all the other livestock and farmhands into my slaves as I dominate the farming business.
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>>54400580
> genius cow-level intellect
See, there's your problem right there...
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>>54400542
Baka senpai, corn porn means he wants to be painted yellow and then inflated under high heat.
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>>54400596
Exactly, they won't know what hit them. Before they know it, THEY'LL be the ones in the milking machines.
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>>54400230
Personality, I like it the most when I retain my memory, intellect, and personality while I get forced into these degrading roles. Makes it more enjoyable than being instantly into it.
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>>54400602
>>54400618

... This is why I wanted to take this to the /trash/ thread.
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>>54400637
Which is why I built the options around three-month-long regimens rooted in the assumption that deep-down the victim wanted it all along.

Maybe I need to stress that a little more, it's easy to lose that thread in the text walls I tend to write.
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>>54400400
Hardly any as Tokharr has issues with trying to actually balance any of his cyoas. Take almost no drawbacks and barely be able to cast anything, thus wasting a huge amount of points and keeping you pretty weak, or take all 6 of the drawbacks and not be able to be functional.

Really each section should have had twice the number of corruption choices so there was actually a choice in said corruption if you wanted to delve deeper into the magic.
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>>54400649
I'm in both threads, if I want to play around I'm going to play around. Not sure what the problem is?
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>>54400707
I'm pretty sure the correct choice was to take the Planeswalker option and maybe one or two basic spells you can actually use outside of sex, then learn real magic elsewhere.
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>>54400761
I saw someone in the other thread suggest planeswalking to another dimension with a better eronomicon.
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>>54388328
Is it okay if I have the same amount of spell points in both my primary and secondary school?
Do I have to just ignore a point in my secondary to even it out or is it okay to have them split perfectly evenly?
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>>54398200
It kind of counts, but it doesn't really go around with any enemies or themes to do. Only thing you can do is make a character and pic a location with a loose idea of what you can fight, without actually getting into it. If we could get an enemies page that lets us get boons would be cool, but otherwise yes. I think it does count as a Urban cyoa.
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>>54400799
It's probably still shit but I decided to make up my own rules for the CYOA (Sartre and all that jazz), posted a build in the Trash thread with them.
Changes from CYOA
1) Spell Points aren't determined by fetishes. Instead you gain 6 spell points for your primary school and 4 spell points for your secondary.
2) You start with 20 points for Boons.
3) Corruption points aren't gained from spells and the Embrace Corruption boon isn't an option. Instead Corruptions can either give spell points equal to their 'cost' for the appropriate color (I.e. Slut gives 1 Yellow Spell Point while Mental Changes gives 2 Green Spell Points) or points for boons equal to their 'cost' times fives. Power of Corruption gives mana equal to the total 'cost' of all corruptions you take.
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>>54400963
Probably more fair that way.
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>>54401041
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>>54400963
>(Sartre and all that jazz)
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>>54397938
>treating the thread like an image dump
>not posting cyoas and making builds and talking about them
Try again lad !
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>>54401041
>>54401052

I'm loving the vibe of this one
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>>54399215
Astrid. I don't judge and accept her for who she is. I'll help her shop for big robes and hats that cover her up from the sunlight.
I don't know how sex would work but I'm fine with just doing cute things. I'm just interested in making her happy either way.
Videojuegos will probably be our main hobby together, which sounds wonderful.
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>>54391800
Took forever to find. Source is [D.P] EVILIVE
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>tfw CYOAs commonly offer Waifus, superpowers, and fantastical worlds to explore
>tfw all you ever wanted from them was a clean bill of mental health
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>>54401115
You're a good guy and the kind of lover/roommate she deserves, Anon.
I approve.
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>>54401232
>a clean bill of mental health
Anon, I can definitely relate to that.
But most CYOAs offer immunity to diseases and/or perfect immortality. I always just assumed mental illnesses were included in that.
So why not celebrate not being a head case by going to a fantastical world with a loving waifu and some kickass superpowers?
It's what I dream of every night.
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>>54401085
Saved it a few threads back. Here's hoping the author keeps working on it or at least gives us something playable in the near future.
>>
Has Guardian been finished and posted yet?
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>>54401232
>tfw your favorite cyoa author disappeared and probably kidnapped by the Yakuza
>tfw you will never have the waifus, superpowers, and fantastical worlds to explore they made ever again.

F
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>>54401314
No.
You'll know when it's done, trust me.
I'll probably dump it every other thread for the first week after it's finished.
I'm taking my time with this one because it is way fucking bigger and has way more fucking options than any other CYOA I've made so far. I know I'm taking forever, but I'm really trying to make something that'll be worth the wait.
So just try to be patient with me a little longer, okay Anon?
I'm doing my best, but I also do other things besides make CYOAs and those have been eating up my time lately.
It's still coming, I promise!
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>>54401362
I've just been gone for several weeks, was still going through the last threads to see if you were done. I assume by your exhasperation you get asked this question every day.
Good.
Can't wait.
Faggot.
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>>54397907
I am not a robot, but I am a Hivemind.
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>>54401376
To suicide would only a fraction of oneself.
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>>54401232
if you had that, anon, you wouldn't be in these threads to begin with
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>>54401383
Page 3/3
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>>54398004
Food
-Big Mac: 3

Health+Hygene
-Toothbrush: 1
-Proper Toilet: 2
-Shower: 1
-Pool: 3
-Health-Bed: 3

Entertainment+Company
-Reader w/ One Books Every Week: 3
-Cat: 3

Room+Misc
-Teacher (Law): 4

Bonus/Penalties
-No Aging: 9
-Only 1 Second: 9
-10 Extra Years: -10
-Struck Blind 4 hours per week: -6


Oh no, I spent 20 years swimming, reading, playing with a kitty, and being taught the skills necessary to speed-run one of the most versatile second-degrees (would have chosen CompSci but didn't have point room for a computer,) while not having to spend any years of my actual lifespan to do so.... oh no.
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>>54388328
[Magical Essence]
>Yellow
4
>Green
3
>Blue
1
>Purple
0
>Pink
0
>Red
4
>Black
1
And today we learned for certain that ZBG is more vanilla than a fucking Nilla Wafer.
[Mana Regeneration]
>Power of Dominance
I’m okay with this.
[Maximum Mana Limit]
>18
Honestly higher than I was expecting.
[Primary School]
>Red Eromancy
This is where my most desired spells are, so it makes sense to make it my main.
[Secondary School]
>Yellow Eromancy
Not as many spells that fit my fetishes, but the ones that do fit them to a fucking T.
[Spells]
~{Primary Spells}
>Enslave (Upgraded)
Once you add the upgrade, this here’s my bread and butter in terms of kinks.
Plus, being called “Master” is one of the biggest turn ons I’ve ever encountered right behind “Daddy” and if I can ever get a girl to call me “Goushujin-Sama” I may just cum on the spot. And before you ask, yes I’m aware I have a problem and, yes, I have accepted that I am King Weebington, Lord of Weebshire. The dick wants what the dick wants.
I wonder how large my harem of slaves will grow before I’m satisfied…
>Summon Succubus (Upgraded)
Six succubi to add to my harem and help break the new girls in!
Perfect.
~{Secondary Spells}
>Charm (Upgraded)
Oh how I fucking wish I had this power in real life…
It also perfectly synergizes with my slave harem because, even though this is still basically brainwashing and forcing girls to love me, despite Red being my primary, I really can’t get off to rape.
I want my slaves to love their master and want to serve and please him because it makes them happy when I’m happy.
Contradictory, I know but, again, the dick (and to some degree the heart) wants what it wants.
>Add Flavor (Upgraded)
Aaaaaaaaaaand one of my deepest fantasies is realized.
Making girls addicted to my cum is quite possibly the hottest thing I can imagine.
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>>54401241
If you want a waifu or husbando, you must first make sure that you are a good waifu or husbando too.

Your waifu's happiness should be the most important thing to you. It is not just about how you gain from them, but what they can gain from you.

Speaking of waifus, can Astrid be my waifu for the eronomicon cyoa from last thread? Part of the pink route is someone being your waifu/deity
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>>54401424
[Boons]
>Discrete Spellcasting
Literally the only thing that I want that I can afford!
Fuck immortality. If I’m going to outlive all my loving slaves, what’s the point?
Even if I got new ones to replace them, I’d still be left with an eternity of grief over all the perfect slaves I’d lost over the years.

[Corruption]
>Urges
I’m already fucking horny all the time, this is totally manageable. Even more so when you take into account the army of infatuated, cumaddicted slaves who’ll be following me around everywhere I go.
>Sadist
Wait, but I… Okay, I guess. Gonna need to find the bare minimum for humiliation I suppose…
And even if I can’t get over my inability to hurt my precious slaves, I’m on a fuckton of antidepressants anyway so it’s not like I’m not used to dealing with it.
>Kinky Wardrobe
...Do they make sexy leather outfits for men? Because otherwise I might be in trouble.

Overall excellent job, Tok!
The Corruptions, especially those for Red, kind of ruin it for me, but I’m also a bit too boring to be considered your target audience.
Feel free to laugh at how vanilla I am instead.
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>>54401424
Buddy you have a single black tier fetish, and that's more than me. Still, you are pretty fucking vanilla in some ways I'll give you that
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>>54398661
>Teacher: Harlen x2
>Skills: Crafting 3 (-3), Tradecraft 3 (-3), Arcana 3 (-6), Charisma 2 (-3), Combat Skill 2 (-3), Command 1 (-1), Governance 1 (-1)
>Magic: Earth 5 (Arcana Bonus) (-12), Lore of Water 1 (Arcana Bonus) (-1), Lore of Air 3 (Arcana Bonus) (-6), Lore of the Abyss 1 (Arcana Bonus) (-1)
>Inventory: Artificer Plate (-1150), Spellweave Clothing (Free), Bloodthorn (-3150), Specialized Tools (-140), Books (-115), Potions (-157)
>Rights and Properties: Knighthood, Trading License (-250), Academic Pass (Free)
>Hirelings: Hireling (Free), Knight Bodyguard (Free), Golem (-140)
>Mount: Warhorse (Free)
>Vessels: Sky Frigate (-4900)
>Companions: Lady Salversil Sonaria, Lulu Lansvard LeLanden, Alice, Phara Nagash, Nelwen
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>>54401456
>inability to hurt my precious slaves
excellent fucking taste

T. Anon from earlier
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>>54401454
I have never respected anyone in these threads that I respect you, Anon.
I must go to bed, but have another great waifu CYOA as a thank you.
>>54401464
The only black tier one I have is incest.
That's so fucking normalized at this point I don't think it really even fits in with the other black ones.
>>54401490
You get me, Anon.
I like you.
I think I'll kill you last.
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>>54401511
>more than*
fuck I need to sleep
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>>54401511
demon a cute
alien colour skin and black sclera are my fetish
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>>54399791
I like it, but what bothers me is the loss of 10 years of your life + time. I think the outside option is probably the best choice for entertainment, and can provide a lot of what you need or want anyway.

I'd do blindness, migraines + 10 years to start with 47 points.
Then take no aging and return to same time for -18, starting with 29 then.
Kitchen + upgrades -10
Quality hiegene - 3
Toilet sink -2
Shower - 1
Lights -1
Medbay -3
Clothes -1
Outside -8
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>ZGB says his shitpost image was 'ironic'
>trying to play it off instead of admitting he made it because he was upset

it's the gift that keeps giving
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>>54401545
yeah but
>scented candles
ew
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>>54401636
Why can't it be a joke I made to cope with the fact that I was upset?
I can do good things for the wrong reasons and bad things for the right reasons, just like anyone.
We are all flawed and imperfect, Anon.
I'm no exception.
I'm a complex man, I've got layers.
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>>54401671
nigger scented candles can smell like fucking anything from apple pie to steak to freshly baked cookies
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>>54401691
they always smell like burning candles no matter what shitty perfume they put in to disguise it it NEVER smells good
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>>54401718
suit yourself senpai
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>>54401718
That means the wick is too long, dummy. You've got to keep it trimmed.
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>>54401636
what shitpost image
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>>54401456
>...Do they make sexy leather outfits for men? Because otherwise I might be in trouble.
Well, there are gimp suits and stuff. Alternately, you can just wear leather coats/pants/hats everywhere like a retarded reddit fedora.
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>>54401636
>He says, weeks later
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>>54401766
to be honest I don't like most scents that people seem to enjoy

8/10 chances any perfume will repel me instead

I do like the smells of fragrant plants, like actual flowers or fruit that haven't been set on fire by some maniac yet
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>>54399215
I want to light up the night with Blues
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>>54401454
>If you want a waifu or husbando, you must first make sure that you are a good waifu or husbando too.
>Your waifu's happiness should be the most important thing to you. It is not just about how you gain from them, but what they can gain from you.
Great. Waifus are forever ruined for me now.
Thanks.
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>>54392855
Anon is saying that because Griffith loved Guts. But the thing is, Griffith wasn't upset at Guts for fucking Casca despite his romantic feelings, because Griffith himself was already planning on keeping that suppressed for the sake of marrying the princess and realizing his dream. The 'betrayal' that Griffith couldn't handle and that pissed him off at Guts was that Guts decided to leave on his own adventures.
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>>54398124
>Identity
Age: 16. Going max on it
Gender: Male
Power Source: Genetic
>Changes
Emotional: Strengthened+7
Physical: Deformed+10. A big as scar going down my face from a shard of glass, and friction burns on my side from a car crash.
Mental: Enhanced-6. Glass shard nicked something bad in my head.
Life: Reset-5
Memory: No change. I can claim amnesia and no one could say differently. I get my cake and can eat it too.
Spiritual: Magnet+5.
>>54398152
>Gifts
Telekinesis(Precision), Pyrokinesis(Control, Source), Healing(Self Service, Miracle), Teleportation(Quick Step), Vitality(Immunity).
Total points left: 0
Total points with Curses:22
Athleticism(Raw Power), Tongues(Non-Verbal), Mechanics(Inner Focus), Empathy.
>>54398187
>Curses
Unsettling+5, Insomnia+9, Lust+8
>>54398200
>Guardian
Ally: Danny Glass. Time to go on an adventure with my new step bro.
>Home
Purity Point
>Student Allies
Leah Dawson, Kate Fox, Adam Wiley.
Two smart people in the right ways to help convince Leah not to do something insane. Also Waifu option of getting Conspiracy girl to use me as a standard for weird boyfriends...oh the fun we will have...I certainly wont call her over for some comfy cuddling sex, nope.
>>54398230
>Adult Allies
Henry Morris so he can help Leah not get herself killed, and Eric Strickland to get our asses out of the fire whenever we find some weird shit out there.
Perks: Overcome(plus 3 points) Future Sight(Relevant), Apprentice to Eric Strickland. Gonna be the best cop ever, and I can cause accidents to corrupt cops with no repercussions at all on my part. Also gives him an excuse to drive me and my friends away from the escaped alien animal chasing our asses across the desert.
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>>54401511
Ah yes, this one. This one is really tough for me. The robot is really cute and watching battletech and stuff sounds like a great time, but I'm supposed to be getting sleep and just ingesting a ton of caffeine to stay up is unhealthy. I don't even really drink coffee much.

But I suppose if coffee is something she likes I'll develop the taste for it, and I'll just be tired at work and we'll have a real night's sleep together later.

>>54401424
>because it makes them happy when I’m happy
This isn't weird at all, don't worry friendo. I'm on the other end of that. All I really want is to make them happy, and the whole d/s thing just fits into that.

I mean, getting slapped around is fun too, I just mean the real reason.

I appreciate the extra explanations you added. It's fun to read, Goushujin-Sama.

>>54402043
It's not about the details of your life, those are unimportant. The things that matter are being true to her, and loving her, and being the sort of person she wants you to be. These sorts of things aren't determined by your lot in life, but by what attitudes and choices you make in regards to him or her. Be a good person with love to give, and you'll be a good waifu or husbando with love in return.
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Good afternoon /cyoag/. Any tutorials on how to make the formatting and all for a cyoa?
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>>54388328
I'm assuming an upgraded spell costs 2 total, not 1 + 2.

3yellow 6green 9blue 5purple 3pink 3red 3black

Blue Primary, Green Secondary
Internal Ley Lines
Spatial Manipulation Upgrade
Summon Person Upgrade
Time Stop Upgrade
Electrolyze Upgrade

Shrink
Transform
Invigorate Upgrade

Immortality
Signature Spell (spacial manipulation)
Discrete spellcasting

Elf Girl
Magic Feedback
Magomaniac
fairy rapists
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>>54402279
Overall not really that great. I got a few really powerful spells, but no particularly interesting or sexy combos, as those tend to require too many cross-class investments to make work. I'm an elf girl with unlimited portal magic, some basic shapeshifting/transformation abilities, and time stop, who occasionally gets raped by fairies. Oddly I don't actually have any mana for them to drain since I use casts per day instead, so it's not clear how long they will stay or whether I'll be able to cast afterward.

Just for shits I think I'll use portals to start a penis collection.
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>>54402043
Ah you want a sexslave and not a romantic partner.
>>54402195
Check the pastebin.
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>>54402434
Oh gross, this general has a discord. Thanks though.
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>>54402450
I'd avoid it if I were you. You lose any shred of respect you may have had of authors.
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>>54402450
>Oh gross, this general has a discord.
Yeah. I try to think of its a containment zone for attention whoring, but it doesn't always do its job.
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>>54402473
Most authors that actually have names kind of seem like attention whores to me, but I haven't been around for a long while so maybe I'm wrong.
>>54399215
Like this schmuck. And I remember seeing some dude trying to exert dominance over another in the thr3ad by bragging that he's been included in "every single author CYOA".
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>>54398004
Didn't the dude who made this say they had ideas for more options but couldn't add them because they fucked up the GIMP file or something like that? Do you think someone could like, I don't know, extend the pic or something and send it to them so they can add whatever it is they wanted?
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>>54401767
I think pic related
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>>54402493
>maybe I'm wrong
you're not, on any of those points

Best you can do is ignore them when they're begging for attention, they feed on (You)s.
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>>54402493
>And I remember seeing some dude trying to exert dominance over another in the thr3ad by bragging that he's been included in "every single author CYOA".
That's SDA. He's made a couple good cyoas in the past but now he's a grade A shitposter.
I'd avoid him too. Think of him like a war veteran with PTSD, that makes him less sad.
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>Your favorite cyoas will never become video games or novels with the creators on the writing team of the project.
>Currently video games and novels are terrible.
How does one survive this suffering?
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>>54402528
Anon please the thread isn't quiet you don't need to rile people up. We know you're lonely but relax.
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>>54402523
This is such a strange place to shitpost though. I always thought it was just a nice place to share CYOAs, not that there was a whole community behind it.
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>>54402528
>How does one survive this suffering?
by working on CYOAs
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>>54400230
>Should I continue, or work on one of the other projects i have on the burner?
Seems neat enough, but as always, work on whichever project you like (or like working on) the most.
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>>54402518
that is fucking hilarious. we do not deserve ZBG
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>>54402600
>we do not deserve ZBG
I know, right? Whatever we did in our past lives couldn't have been that bad.
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>>54402600
zbg, sucking your own dick is poor form
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>>54402683
I dunno, the fact that we can only dream about these CYOA worlds is pretty compelling evidence for this being a sort of teasing hell.

Speaking of ZBG, has anyone got fortune's cookies? I can't find it in dropbox or drive
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What's the easiest way to make a CYOA?
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>>54397907
I want the queen instead.
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>>54402915
Take a picture of 4 girls and put them on a blank canvas. Then add words next to them describing them as waifus also put a title above them to name the cyoa then post it.

You will then watch /cyoag go nuclear as anons debate each other about fictional women.
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>>54402915
Make a really short one that doesn't require extensive searching for pictures or a highly detailed layout. Minimal amount of text you can spend some time on perfecting. This has the lowest chance of dropped due to a loss of motivation. A short one will get the most enjoyment from a short ammont of time but won't be frequently posted.
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>>54401353
Who were they?
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>>54402949
No, I know what I want to do as the CYOA. Aesthetics just seem difficult. I'm no graphic designer. No clue how to use the program I'm using. I can just fuck around until something looks nice I suppose, but I figured I may as well ask.
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>>54402915
>>54402963
Heres a simple template I made for myself, you can take some inspiration from it if this helps, you should look at what other authors did for their work and copy it too. Doesn't have to look amazing just easy on the eyes.
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>>54402963
look in the pastebin. there are some source files and guides
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>>54403006
Isn't it pretty basic though? Looks like everyone else's.
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>>54402959
Italics got kidnapped by the Yakuza, Anon.
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>>54403062
So?
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>>54403103
So I have an idea that I like, I'd rather it look neat.
>>54397938
See what this man does? Now that looks amazing.
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>>54403107
Then you have to put work into it. You asked for the easiest way, and the easiest way is definitely to use a template, even if it only gives you a pretty generic result.
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>>54403107
>So I have an idea that I like, I'd rather it look neat
then get to work
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>>54388328
Will someone fucking tell me why Hypnosis is a blue fetish, but Mind Control is separate and also a Red fetish instead of Blue? Mind Sculpt is absolute trash (rewriting them is NOT controlling them), but I do like the other Blue spells, and I really want Yellow for Normalize and Heighten Libido...but my REAL fetish is mind control, and of course that's in Red with a bunch of other spells I don't like.
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>>54401376
>>54401383
>>54401388
This looks really interesting, anon. Multiple Man always seemed like an underused villain to me
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>>54403234
>mfw I forgot to read the Boons section
>mfw I realize I'm too vanilla to benefit from it
Why are all of them so fucking expensive?
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>>54403270
It's just a way to balance the whole thing so both normies (probably 10 points or so) and degenerates (>70 points) can play it.
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>>54403234
Enslave on red makes sense since red is all about domination. Mind sculpt doesn't really make much sense to me at all though. Then again one of the blue fetishes is identity death
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>>54403304
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>>54403311
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>>54403234
I think it's because Red is all about domination, as where Blue seems to be the miscellaneous category for fucking with reality.
>>54403270
>Why are all of them so fucking expensive?
Because Tokhaar Gol is a perversion elitist clearly. Though I have 88 points and I spent most of that to remove the mana costs, which for some reason also gives me immortality, and grab proper planswalker powers.
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>>54402528
>Gol ignores all the criticism on both /tg/ and /trash/ to repost the CYOA.
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>>54403328
What would be a good universe for planeswalker? There's no way I can get the upgrade. I guess I'm looking for one where I could get something I can't from the CYOA normally.
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>>54403347
D&D.
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>>54403006
>tfw you won't finish that author cyoa or make another one
Bright stars burn out so quick ...
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>>54399215
What's the source for Jeanne's pic?
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>>54402434
>Ah you want a sexslave and not a romantic partner.
It's pretty obvious what anon was talking about, so this looks like you're projecting.
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>>54403352
>author cyoa
It seems dull ones do as well.
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>>54403352
I saw the error of my ways trying to make an Author cyoa. You either die a hero or become SDA.
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>>54399251
Here's an updated version of my "cuck humanity" build, now with no more pesky cock-blocking spirits. The goal is about what you'd expect from the name. Upgrade the human species by fucking it a whole lot.

Time: 20,000 BC
Fate: Immortal Wanderer (+90)

Mental
- Genius 3 (-10)
- Memory of the Ages 2 (-5)
- Wellspring of Harmony (-5)
Mental Total: -20

Running Total: 70

Physical
- Strength & Speed 0 (Free)
- Reflexes & Reaction 0 (Free)
- Impervious 0 (Free)
- Regeneration 1 (-3)
- Pain Control (-2)
- Endurance 0 (Free)
- Super Senses 0 (Free)
- Diet 0 (Free)
- Sanitary Convenience (-2)
Physical Total: -7

Running Total: 63

Magical
- Divination, Major (-10)
- Telepathy, Major (-10)
- Master of Motion, Major (-10)
- Shapeshifting, Major (-10)
Supernatural Total: -40

Running Total: 23

Company
Inheritable, All
- Super Senses 0 (-2)
- Strength & Speed 0 (-3)
- Reflexes & Reaction 0 (-3)
- Regeneration 0 (-3)
- Diet 0 (-3)
- Impervious 0 (-3)
- Disease Resistance, Limited (-2)
- Extended Lifespan (-4)
- Genius, Limited (-4)
Company Total: -27

Running Total: -4

Items
- Book of Culture (-5)
- Book of Knowledge (-5)
Item Total: -10

Running Total: -14

Drawbacks
- Temporally Lost (+15)
Drawback Total: +15

End Total: 1

Quests
- An Empire Eternal
- Singularity
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>>54403340
>Blue seems to be the miscellaneous category for fucking with reality
Then why isn't Normalization Blue?

Here's my big problem: Mind Sculpt is fucking trash. If it were in green to facilitate mental reshaping to go with the physical reshaping, that'd make sense. However, it's (nonsensically) in blue, and locks blue out of having any proper hypno-spell.
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>>54399215
Am I the only one who likes Christina?
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>>54401052
I may be blind, but how many points do you get?
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>>54403416
Sure
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>>54403344
I have answered the criticism, some people just didn't like the answers and keep regurgitating what they don't like.
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>>54403342

Being generous with my points here.
Yellow: 3
Green: 9
Blue: 3
Purple: 8
Pink: 4
Red: 1
Black: 1

>Schools: Green (Main) and Purple (Have you taken your daily dose anons?)

>Mana Regeneration: Shapeshifter
>Green: Normal Shrink, Upgraded Enlarge, Upgraded Alter Age, Upgraded Transform, Upgraded Invigorate
>Purple: Upgraded Tentacles, Normal Incubate, Upgraded Banish, Upgraded Parasite (Random Transformation), Normal Abyssal Girl Summon

>Leftover Point Total: 12

>Boons: Embrace Corruption, Signature Spell: Transform
>Required Green Corruptions: Mental Change, Random Transformations, Nature Spirits, Fairy Rapists (Extra point from Embrace Corruption used for Fairy Rapists so I don't die a horrible death)
>Required Purple Corruptions: Eldritch Girl, Summon, Corruption
>Extra Corruptions: Urges, Mana Tanks

Being a Eldritch Girl is surprisingly synergetic with Alter Age. And with Transform as a Signature Spell I don't exactly need to worry about my Mana if I haven't transformed in a while. If I can still use the upgraded version's perks without a cost alongside it... ho boy. I probably do have to add a mana cost for that though.
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>>54403411
Normalize seems to fit in fine in the super slut category.
>and locks blue out of having any proper hypno-spell.
There isn't a proper hypno spell in there though. Even Enslave just forces them to do what you say after you collar them, Yellow's upgraded charm is just as good for that. None of the spells seem to let you make people do things unconsciously, or plant triggers in people.
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>>54403435
It looks more like new people voiced similar complaints, indicating that people generally perceive a problem.

Better to be honest and say you don't feel like changing things rather than be defensive over something clearly disliked.
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>>54398728
>things like politics or social norms
Boring unimportant chaff beloved by Redditors who mistake such things for depth. I hate this kind of worldbuilding so much, and I hate you too!
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>>54403475
>Better to be honest and say you don't feel like changing things rather than be defensive over something clearly disliked.
I have said that I dont want to change anything multiple times now. Also none of the complaints I see on /tg/ and /trash/ is on reddit. I don't know why this is, but it suspect this either has to do with none of the redditors having expectations for Eronomicon and being hyped up for it or there are some people who keep whining on 4chan, like some of the criticism I received is pretty retarded. I don't mean to dissmiss all the criticism as retarded, I do think some of it is valid and that is the criticism I have addressed and even changed things in the CYOA for (note that the latest version is 1.3).
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>>54403527
What kind of worldbuilding do you like, anon?
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>>54403462
Yeah, I'd like a proper mind control/hypnosis spell too. One were you actually control their mind and not just force them to obey your orders.
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>>54403554
>there are some people who keep whining on 4chan, like some of the criticism I received is pretty retarded
This senpai
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>>54403554
>none of the complaints I see on /tg/ and /trash/ is on reddit
>Trying to use reddit to defend your design choices from 4chan
Holy shit. Ignoring the problem with that premise, you think people saying "I don't want to be a girl." are somehow trolling you or something?

Seriously though, I just can't get over this. You're placing more weight on reddit's opinions, while treating them as a bastion of good criticism. What in the hell is wrong with you?
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>>54403460
>>54403342

Hold the fuck up
>Mental Change is cost 2 now
Guess I don't need to waste my extra corruption into Green anymore. Taking out Fairy Rapists.
>Extra Corruptions: Urges, Mana Tanks, Embrace Madness
I'm still using all 5 extra corruption points though.
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>>54403554
I only read your CYOA at like 4-5am this morning, well after you were gone, and voiced my complaints then. Don't try and paint me as some samefagging shitposter for pointing out how narrow the drawbacks are and how I don't like personality death.
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>>54403560
Worldbuilding which serves its purpose. For example, having a wild hunt and a god who curates it; this serves the centre of the CYOA. But, on the other hand, the town section is mostly irrelevant, removing any stakes it might have for the player and generally ensuring its impact is purely intellectual -- which means it can never stand up, because you CANNOT simulate anything even approaching realism.

Sometimes worldbuilding IS the purpose, true, but in such situations it is certainly not the customs or politics which are interesting. It's the central, underlying tensions.
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>>54403554
. Also none of the complaints I see on /tg/ and /trash/ is on reddit. >
That's because redditors are neutered cucks who are afraid to speak their true opinion for fear of being ostracized from their shitty site. You want any sort of worthwhile criticism, you'll find it here, unfiltered and truthful.
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>>54403581
Wait, you have to be a girl? I didn't sign up for that
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>>54403581
namefags get along with reddit, more news at 11
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>>54403342
>>54403594
What, he changed things? Post a changelog, Tok.
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>>54403568
Elaborate. There's too much stuff that all is lumped into mindcontrol.
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>>54403604
It's just how many corruption points you pile up and how restricted your drawback choices are, it feels almost mandatory at times.
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>>54403304
>Yellow: 1
>Green: 8
>Blue: 0
>Purple: 0
>Pink: 2
>Red: 5
>Black: 0
>Main: Green
>Secondary: Red

>Mana Regeneration: One With Nature
Get a house in the woods, regenerate while sleeping

>Shrink
>Enlarge + +upgrade
>Gender Swap
>Alter Age + Upgrade
>Transform + Upgrade

>Enslave
>Hex + Upgrade
>Enforce Law + Upgrade

>4 green corruption points
>3 red corruption points

>Mental Change
>Fairy Rapists
>Vampire Girl
>Role Reversal
>Kinky Wardrobe

In total have 23 mana. Better use my spells to gain some earthly power because these corruptions are seriously tripping me up. I can use the law spell to get my own vampire castle or something like that.
I want to use my transform powers to make the world a more attractive place, but I fear others will use their deviancy powers against me. Truce?
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>>54403581
>You're placing more weight on reddit's opinions, while treating them as a bastion of good criticism. What in the hell is wrong with you?
You fool! Redditors and 4chaners, I don't make CYOAs for either! I make CYOAs for deviants and I have always done so. It does not matter to me which site a deviant is using, a deviant is a deviant and I respect my fellow deviants. I do not place more weight on the deviants of reddits then I do with the deviants of 4chan. I simply stated a fact and 2 possible factors which could contribute to why some people didn't like Eronomicon on 4chan.

>>54403570
Feel noticed fellow deviant.
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>>54403615
Like putting someone in a trance where you are their master and they obey all of your commands without question. The ability to place triggers would be cool too.
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>>54403652
Memeing it up doesn't change what you said. Your counter to criticism was to say "Well Reddit likes it so all of you must be trolls."

>2 possible factors
You accused everyone of shitposting.
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>>54402523
Does earlier this year really seem that far off to you people? Not to mention that I'm still making OC. Slowly, but surely, I'm not rushing myself to make these.

After I release my next project, you idiots are gonna put me in the "past" again to make yourselves seem like you're morally above me.

>>54402493
>Exerting dominance
I'm against blatant Author CYOAs, as amusing as they are. But that doesn't mean what I said isn't true; I am in all of them so far, at least to my knowledge.

If you actually actively feel so autistic enough that you want yourself to be in one of these, then you're going about it the wrong way.
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>>54403304
Changelog?
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>>54403654
As for how this differentiates from Enslave in the cyoa, Enslave is just body control, not mind control. It's not taking over a mind and making them a slave, It's taking over their body and making them do what you say.
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>>54403623
Really depends on your schools and how much you spend. Like Blue you can pretty easily get away with Magomaniac and Magic Feedback. That's enough for 6 spell choices right there and it's only even a problem if you expect to be using spells in stressed situations.
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>>54403554
To be honest my only complaint about the CYOA is that you can't give your deity more than two spells so it kinda feels weird to have a deity that is in theory ''weaker'' than you
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>>54403706
Personality changes are a really huge problem for a lot of people.
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>>54403668
>Strawman
>All 4chaners are troll
>Strawman
I can't tell if your trolling or not....

>>54403675
>Spawn Parasite and Monster: Changed the requirement Oviposition to Incubate. Since oviposition was its WIP name.
>Green Corruption: Mental Changes cost increased from 1 to 2.
Green corruption was harder to manage since it had 2 girl options and by increasing the cost of mental changes it is now easier:
>Enslave: before all you had to do was equip a collar to make somone a slave, now they must keep wearing the collar to remain a slave.
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>>54403725
>I can't tell if your trolling or not
That does seem to be the problem.
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>>54403725
4channers, by God, not 4chaners.
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>>54403673
>Does earlier this year really seem that far off to you people?
in cyoa time, it's basically the middle ages.
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>>54403738
What... what if we're all trolling and just doesn't know it?
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>>54403725
>Strawman
It's literally in your post.
>>54403554
>Also none of the complaints I see on /tg/ and /trash/ is on reddit. I don't know why this is, but it suspect this either has to do with none of the redditors having expectations for Eronomicon and being hyped up for it or there are some people who keep whining on 4chan, like some of the criticism I received is pretty retarded.
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Gosh, I hate all these whiners everywhere, ruining everything with their whining. Won't somebody think of the poor authors?
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>>54403722
It's not really a personality change though, it's the sexual equivalent of changing tastebuds, you just can't feel good without magic.

That COULD be an issue if you picked like time stop, mind sculpt, and possession, since there's a good chance you might want to have sex without involving those, but you probably should have spells that work for your everyday fetishes anyway.
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>>54403768
The part you quoted says "some people had high expectations, some people are whiners" not "all criticism was shitposting."
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>>54403789
Those 'some people' are redditors. It's like telling someone their opinion is wrong because the liberal arts major at McDonald's disagrees.
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>>54403789
Calling someone a whiner is no different than calling someone a shitposter, both are methods of dismissing their opinions as invalid.
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>>54403768
>Your counter to criticism was to say "Well Reddit likes it so all of you must be trolls."
>but it suspect this either has to do with none of the redditors having expectations for Eronomicon and being hyped up for it OR there are some people who keep whining on 4chan, like some of the criticism.
Notice the OR? OR I guess you see that, did you?
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>>54403781
>Won't somebody think of the poor authors?
Ok, fine, I'll think of Tokhaar Gol as a girl, bound by ropes, that I am applying various lotions to, which have ingredients including capsaicin, menthol, and benzocaine. With the intention of then whipping them.
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>>54403599
>For example, having a wild hunt and a god who curates it; this serves the centre of the CYOA.
Except this is my biggest criticism about Monster Hunter, because this is anti-world building. This isn't a real setting when you mock everything by hand-waving it all as an act of God. At best, Monster Hunter serves as a blank backdrop for you to insert yourself into, but as far as I'm concerned, there is no reason behind anything you do. It's just an excuse for you to go out and kill monsters, and that's fine for the CYOA. But to praise Monster Hunter for its world-building is preposterous.

You want decent fantasy world building? Look at Hero Academy. I'll bow out to that one any day, props to Box. Could use an editor, though.

>>54403764
Fair enough, but that's why I don't complain about new OC.
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>>54403798
While that might be your opinion, it isn't what is actually written in his post, because those "some people" were in reference to complaints made on /tg/ and /trash/.
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>>54403673
I'd be flattered to be in one, but I don't particularly care. Hell, I'm not even an author yet, still working on mine. You kind of seem like a douche though, calling people idiots. Maybe I am wrong again in this,but I doubt people care enough about you to try to feel morally superior to you.

What have you made?
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>>54403798
>Those 'some people' are redditors
Now that's just putting words in his mouth.
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>>54403807
I notice your 'or'. Are you really going to be so pedantic that your defense is 'well I said maybe you're not shitposters and just expected to much' when the rest is the accusation of shitposting?
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>>54403819
SDA is kind of an asshole, but I'm starting to think any author that lasts for more than a few releases kind of has to be to tolerate some of the anons in the thread.
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>>54403807
>>54403832
I mean nevermind the fact that your point of comparison is STILL reddit.
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>>54403789
>The part you quoted says "some people had high expectations, some people are whiners" not "all criticism was shitposting."
This, exactly this. What I don't get is why this anon >>54403804 can't fucking read.
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>>54403814
>But to praise Monster Hunter for its world-building
I didn't do that you mongoose I'm just keeping the points directly relevant. This is the BEST part of its worldbuilding; it's an example of worldbuilding in the right direction rather than an example of good worldbuilding.
To be good, it would have to be more developed.

Certainly "a god did it" is NOT bad worldbuilding. That is the kind of Reddit memery that ends with you cringing away from "tropes"/cliches as if subversion is something to be lauded all on its own (it's not). This is seeing some people misuse it and then assuming it can NEVER be good, without understanding what made them bad in those situations and what can make them good in others.

Hero Academy's okay. It manages to sneak in a lot of decent worldbuilding despite the neat little boxes it would otherwise reduce its world into with its various academies. Incidentally, this neat-box thing is one of Monster Hunter's worst failings -- regarding the monsters.
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>>54403832
So your defense against being told you were strawmanning his argument is to ignore half his argument and misrepresent the other half?
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>>54399495
>>54399549
>>54400150
>doesn't grasp a elementary school level vampire pun
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>>54403878

Er, should be
>>54399508
>>54399549 (You)
>>54400150
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>>54403862
Dismissing all criticism as whining is the same as calling it shitposting. I don't care how pedantic you get about the terminology, it's still saying they're wrong and invalid.

>>54403874
>Ignore half
"Your expectations are too high" is a lazy dismissal of basic criticism. Expecting more spell schools might be too high of an expectation, but wanting a better point balance or more drawback freedom is hardly entitled.

>Misrepresent
It's blatantly what he said. How else are you supposed to take "Well Reddit says its fine so you're just a whiner", anon?

Cocksucking is on your build for this CYOA I'm guessing.
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>>54403874
That's not what he's doing at all.
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>>54403852
That's why I say maybe I'm wrong, I don't know the full business. Really I shouldn't be sticking my nose in when I don't know the situation, my bad.
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>>54403892
>(You)
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>>54403819
Hey, if you don't like him, filter him.
:^)
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Isn't it fun when they're both wrong?
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>>54403915
No it's just annoying to read.
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>>54403898
>Dismissing all criticism as whining is the same as calling it shitposting. I don't care how pedantic you get about the terminology, it's still saying they're wrong and invalid.
Read nigger, read! >>54403652
>I don't mean to dissmiss all the criticism as retarded, I do think some of it is valid and that is the criticism I have addressed and even changed things in the CYOA for (note that the latest version is 1.3).
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>>54403915
>>54403920
It's kinda like watching football between two teams you don't really care about. You end up supporting one side just because they look cooler.
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>>54403404
Well, I can't say humanity won't be better off in the long run!
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>>54403819
I'm currently making a CATastrophe-based CYOA and a power armour-type CYOA after that, both with aims of number crunchy mechanics.

And yes, I am a douche and heavily opinionated, and I'm not afraid to let people know they're stupid from my perspective. Which is fine, because I find joy in triggering autists.

>>54403852
This place has taught me how to survive in a cesspool.

>>54403872
>Certainly "a god did it" is NOT bad worldbuilding
No, but hand-waving everything as an act of this God is, unless the tone of the setting is about oppression.

Fundamental things like social norms, culture, practices and politics because God said so? You realize that having it so means that denying these things would be as preposterous as denying your right to breathe air? Having your setting's fundamentals and physics be defined by "divinity" is no better than a deus ex machina. If you're serious about world building, you best be prepared to give a reasonable explanation for everything.
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>>54403673
Man you're really losing it.
I almost want to feel sorry for you... but then I remember the superiority complex and the shitposting.
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>>54403924
>I do think some of it is valid
Judging by your changes you think very few things were valid, then. You changed some typos, added a collar requirement, and very slightly buffed green drawbacks. What about all the people talking about how restrictive the drawbacks in general are, which is also where most of the complaints of forced mental changes and genderswapping is from? Oddly sorted spells/corruption? Options being too expensive or the point balance being off in general? You don't even dignify any of this with being replied to, you just dismiss it as whining. And before you say anything else, your post said point blank you addressed what you considered valid. The obvious take away is that unaddressed complaints are invalid.
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>>54403852
>>54403941
>This place has taught me how to survive in a cesspool.
I'm not sure I would say cesspool, exactly; more like a regular pool with some turds floating in it that you have to avoid to enjoy the pool.

It really *has* done a lot to give me at thicker skin, though. I don't think I'm an asshole, per se, but that's not really for me to judge.
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>>54403953
I don't know what happened, Before Tokhaar seemed excited to work on Eronomicon, even planning an extra page with a multiplayer aspect. But now it seems like his energy is drained and he want's nothing more to do with it.
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>>54403943
>Man you're really losing it.
Boy, you sure showed me by making this post.

>>54403967
I'm not denying that I'm not an asshole.
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>>54403814
Except this is my biggest criticism about Battle Mage, because this is anti-world building. This isn't a real setting when you mock everything by hand-waving it all as an act of the Detritus. At best, Battle Mage serves as a blank backdrop for you to insert yourself into, but as far as I'm concerned, there is no reason behind anything you do. It's just an excuse for you to go out and kill monsters, and that's fine for the CYOA. But to praise Battle Mage for its world-building is preposterous.
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>>54403967
Hol up... I'm not denying that I'm an asshole.

Worded that wrong.
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>>54403975
I don't think he likes criticism in general. Reception is hardly harsh, I'm the only person getting irritated at him even though plenty of others had a complaint.
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>>54403941
But which CYOAs have you done? Maybe I know one of them.
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>>54403993
Man you copy-catting him doesn't do anything but make you look more wrong.
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>>54403941
>This place has taught me how to survive in a cesspool.
One of the biggest benefits of 4chan in general there. Spend a year or two here on pretty much any board and you'll get used to a lot of bullshit such that it just won't bother you in daily life.
>>54403943
I want to make SDA lose it, but due to sexy things.
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>>54403975
> But now it seems like his energy is drained and he want's nothing more to do with it.
Can you blame him? I'm always impressed by authors.
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>>54403673
>Does earlier this year really seem that far off to you people?

For the amount of time it took you to make that, yeah, its not much.
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>>54404016
Yes.
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>>54403996
Technically speaking, both statements are true, as you denied neither.

Only thing that's ended up working here for me is further developing the ability to not give a shit about a given poster's opinion. Which can be part of being an asshole to be sure, but is not necessarily so.

Though, I've never gotten anything like the amount of shit that you have, just some hassle for being a namefag outside of posting CYOAs, and some grumpiness when the last iteration took over too much of the thread.
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>>54403953
>What about all the people talking about how restrictive the drawbacks in general are, which is also where most of the complaints of forced mental changes and genderswapping is from?
I have addressed that, I said I can't come up with a solution for that unless I make a 5th page and I don't feel like doing that. I might or might not come up with a solution for it later.
>Oddly sorted spells/corruption?
>Options being too expensive or the point balance being off in general?
These I don't want to change, I feel everything is as it should be.
>You don't even dignify any of this with being replied to, you just dismiss it as whining. And before you say anything else, your post said point blank you addressed what you considered valid. The obvious take away is that unaddressed complaints are invalid.
I have answered these criticisms several time and some of it might have slipped through the cracks, I get shit tons of questions, builds, replies and criticism every time I post a CYOA and I don't read every single reply anon.
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>>54404002
Star Dust, Battlemage and ArchDemon/ArchAngel Roommate are my most known ones.

Also made this incomplete one that I'm gonna update this week. It kinda sucks as a CYOA for now, but I think the character descriptions contain some of by best writing since I never really focused on the writing aspect before. I always considered it to be one of my weaker points so it's a nice personal milestone for me.
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>>54404002
Stardust
Battlemage v 0.7
That thing that inspired Bliss to write Domain Master (?)
Archdemon roommate
Archangel roommate
One about making a weapon
Battlemage v 1.0
His magnum opus, Depression quest
The photoshop part of an author waifu cyoa
One about being a teacher at a magic school with waifu pupils
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>>54403941
>This place has taught me how to survive in a cesspool.

When you're a contributing factor to making it a cesspool you'd pretty much have to.
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>>54404037
>It kinda sucks as a CYOA for now
I'm just not into it because I'm not playing me. I don't want to create a character with a random backstory and imagine how that character would interact with the world. How they would be a teacher for the waifu.
I want to be me.
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>>54404037
I actually never read Battlemage, looked a little boring (but still very impressive).

Not a fan of waifu stuff, but I thought the Archwaifus were pretty well written, good stuff. What do you use to make them?
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>>54404029
>I have addressed that
But then you turn around and say new people sharing those views are whiners? Do you think that's fair to them, like they're somehow to blame for you getting a lot of those complaints?
>These I don't want to change, I feel everything is as it should be.
Then dignify them with a reply. Nobody sees inside your mind, they all equally consider their own views valid and would benefit from you explaining why you placed those spells/corruptions there if they're confused. You ignoring them makes it feel like a snub, like you're intentionally ignoring what they have to say (which is basically true.)
>I don't read every single reply.
This is bad form, you get like two dozen replies, how are you expecting to have a comprehensive view of how it's received or notice all the problems/confusion if you ignore most of the discussion?
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>>54403554
>Also none of the complaints I see on /tg/ and /trash/ is on reddit.
Great example of how to entirely destroy your credibility with 1 sentence.
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>>54404037
Also, consider having the
>lol i'm so drunk lamo
waifu have something more to her than being drunk.
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>>54404029
>I have answered these criticisms several time and some of it might have slipped through the cracks, I get shit tons of questions, builds, replies and criticism every time I post a CYOA and I don't read every single reply anon.

poor namefag. wasn't the exact reason you need to post and let everyone know who you are was so you could be around for feedback?
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>>54403814
I think it's just a matter of taste. I personally think monster hunter is easily the most overrated cyoa, simply because it doesn't offer anything beyond a nice presentation and some generic, vague descriptions. Attribute points don't have any specific meaning, abilities don't clearly determine what they can do, there's no way to estimate how strong the monsters are in relation to yourself. For a 'monster hunter' cyoa, the monster hunting offers nothing substantial beyond 'pick a monster from this collection of images that have one cliche ability'.
But, obviously there are enough people who like it. Some people like that it's so vague, generic and that most of the choices don't have much effect, because that allows them to build their character however they want. The story of doom (2016) is still a story that people can enjoy, if only because it completely gets out of the way. In the same way, people can enjoy that a setting is bare bones and leaves everything open.
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>>54404112
>But, obviously there are enough people who like it. Some people like that it's so vague,
Yes. Because it allows you to imagine and think. Because the cyoa acts as a stepping stone for your imagination rather than telling you
>This is how things are, this is only how they are, this is only how things can work
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>>54404112
I'm agree. I usually skip most "attribute point" CYOAs, because it just doesn't contribute to the imagination. Lots of meaninglessness numbers.
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>>54404119
Some people like a more structured CYOA for their imagination because they enjoy imagining the specifics without having to wank it all.
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>>54404112
>I think it's just a matter of taste. I personally think monster hunter is easily the most overrated cyoa, simply because it doesn't offer anything beyond a nice presentation and some generic, vague descriptions. Attribute points don't have any specific meaning, abilities don't clearly determine what they can do, there's no way to estimate how strong the monsters are in relation to yourself. For a 'monster hunter' cyoa, the monster hunting offers nothing substantial beyond 'pick a monster from this collection of images that have one cliche ability'.

Ditto.

>>54404119
>Yes. Because it allows you to imagine and think. Because the cyoa acts as a stepping stone for your imagination rather than telling you

I prefer having something to bounce my imagination off; characters, places, things more detailed than just a world of faceless blanks.
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>>54404025
>developing the ability to not give a shit about a given poster's opinion
A better way to put it is to be the judge of what opinions/criticism to take seriously or not. A lot of shit gets thrown here but there are people who genuinely want to give constructive feedback.

I may be an asshole, but when it comes to criticism of my CYOAs, I always try to listen and treat anything given to me as a different perspective. Whether or not I reject it is up to how well their arguments hold up to my challenges, but sometimes people are very persistent in ideas I've already rejected.

>>54404059
You don't have to play the CYOA.

I'm the opposite where I prefer CYOAs that let me be a different character. For Monster Hunter, I just ignored the isekai element and built characters different from myself.

>>54404065
Battlemage is my most fleshed out setting, so I'm happy for what I made. I'm using it as an anchor for other projects.

>>54404074
Already discussed this. I'm doing a slight rewrite of some of their descriptions.

Marie-Claude is gonna mention the papers she's already published and other achievements before going on her depressing roundabout.
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>>54404037
> Vedic
> The Aurarian Order
Prominence: Discovering new ways of applying healing magic
> Ruby Godspeed
The goal here is to experiment and discover new ways to combine magic and science for revolutionizing the healing field. Ruby and I are going to heal the world.
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>>54404065
>What do you use to make them?
Photoshop. I have some basic image tutorials in a folder on my MEGA drive if you want to give them a look, though there is a lot of material out there that can teach you other Photoshop basics.
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>>54404154
>You don't have to play the CYOA.
I didn't.
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>>54404082
Releasing a new CYOA and being flooded with replies is not the same as being casually available to answer random questions anon.
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>>54404207
That's fine by me, anon. I'm making CYOAs now purely because I want to apply ideas I like.
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>>54404217
So you're not free to answer those questions anons had now?

Why is it so hard for you lot to admit its an attention thing?
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>>54404217
Most other authors seem to be able to respond to the majority of criticism/builds.
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>>54404201
Thanks, I'll check it out. You're not such a big douche as I once thought. Sorry for judging, keep up the good work.
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>>54404119
Options like 'poison knowledge', 'blunt weapon knowledge', 'wings', 'healing' don't inspire me one bit, because they're just things I already know. I'm already capable of imagining generic fantasy characters, I don't need a (nice looking) list of buzzwords.
Also, tighter rules/more crunch are in no way limiting imagination. In contrast, restrictiveness tends to promote creativity, because if everything works, there is no incentive for thinking outside the box.
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>>54404263
>>54397954
Look here, at alchemy. It gives a nice description, and you can see how it ties into being a bodyguard, and it inspires.
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>>54404261
>You're not such a big douche as I once thought. Sorry for judging, keep up the good work.
In a week's time, you're going to be convinced to hate me whether by myself or other anons, but thanks.
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>>54404122
I'm definitely not a fan, especially because it often is a hassle to keep track while having barely if any impact. Sometimes it's okay though, if the numbers actually denote something concrete. Monster hunter really is the worst way though, because it's never even in any way hinted at how much 1 one attribute point is worth.
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>>54404122
There was that Wilds Outside CYOA where I stopped counting the stats and ignored the stat requirements. There were too many to track and that shit.
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>>54404290
If I need to write stuff down just to build a character in your CYOA, you either need to make it more interesting and memorable, or less complex.
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>>54404242
>Most other authors seem to be able to respond to the majority of criticism/builds.
I get a lot of questions and I respond to the majority of rule question. I prioritize Rules>Criticism>Builds, I rarely respond to builds in other ways then fapping to them. Rules are the most important thing and someimes I mess up rules and that is the most important thing to fix in updates. Criticism is second because of that and builds are just fapping material, if I start reading builds I start to fap and then when Im done, I dont feel like commenting. Also takes alot of time to fap to builds.
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>>54404154
>Marie-Claude is gonna mention the papers she's already published and other achievements
While mentioning that would definitely improve her, in my opinion you should also include something more about her private side, as the whole 'really into academia' is already done by another character, so something to differentiate them (besides one of them being drunk) would probably what I would recommend.

oh, by the way
>before going on her depressing roundabout
I'm going to find out where you live, get shitfaced and piss in your mailbox if you make the drunk rant longer.
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>>54404299
Yeah. I shouldn't need a calculator or a spreadsheet because changing one choice fucks up what I can get.
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>>54404065
>>54404201
>>54404261
I've got a lot of respect for SDA's CYOAs, and the painstaking beauty with which they are put together. Bliss' CYOAs are another good example of that level of artistic precision.

That being said, I personally found that photoshop had way too steep of a learning curve to learn *just* to make CYOAs. And, while my CYOAs are not even comparable to those that I mentioned in terms of physical presentation, I've nonetheless managed to make several well received ones without touching photoshop or any other advanced software.

So, I am *not* saying don't do photoshop, but I *am* saying that if you find photoshop too daunting, then it's better to have a good CYOA, than an visually amazing CYOA that you don't finish because it's too hard to do. The route I go is google docs > save as pdf > convert to png > merge with an online tool.
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>>54404328
Well fix the situation with transformation being so hideously expensive that getting 100% effective mind control and mind reprogramming is FIVE TIMES cheaper
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>>54404261
His biggest problem really is that, when someone is being an ass towards him, he responds like an ass. That by itself is fine, but because of the anonymous nature, when other people also respond to his stuff, he tends to also be an ass to them.
When the thread is not in a state of conflict/there is not much shitposting going on, he actually tends to be pretty chill.
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>>54404365
Google docs like the word program? Isn't that incredibly limited in terms of image manipulation?
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>>54404374
>there is not much shitposting going on, he actually tends to be pretty chill

his presence normally precludes a lack of shitposting. Take his pride in derailing the thread with high school philosophy a couple of days back.
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>>54404233
>I'm making CYOAs now purely because I want to apply ideas I like.
What did he mean by this?
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Strawpool for new rules for Eronomicons Corruption section! Will do a minor update to Eronomicon and among other things I will make Empower purchasable a second time.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13477051
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>>54404437
Yup. I mean, I use Paint to just crop images, but only to crop images. For example, for the Altering History Fates selection, I found the four images I wanted, cropped them all to the same image ratio, and then let google docs resize them to fit in the table. Not elegant, but easy, and it does the job.
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>>54404368
How would you make a shapshifter school anon? If I make Shapshift 1 spell, then I have 4 other spells I need to create, what other spells should I fill those slots with?
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>>54404365
i'm guessing you don't have a copy of ms office then
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>>54404334
I'll keeonthat in mind. Other than her academic prosperity, she's a bit of a shut-in. I'll have to think of something for this.

And no, I'm gonna try and not make her (or any description) any longer. I'm just gonna try to consolidate it a bit more so I can fit in other things.

>>54404365
Everyone has their own way of making CYOAs, but I believe the best workflow is to familiarize yourself with Photoshop or another design program since it's just a handy tool to have. InDesign is also excellent for more text-based stuff.

Alternatives to Adobe/Photoshop is GIMP, paint.NET and Krita, but those have obvious pitfalls.

>>54404448
I'm not making these for the satisfaction of getting approval from anyone. Lots of people hate numbers and stats but I'm going all out with them in my next projects cause I like working with numbers. People hardly care about the settings I create, but I like them and building them is one if my main motivators.
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>>54404495
I do, but I find it easier to work on several different computers using the google docs. I'm sure I could do some cloud bullshit with ms office, but I don't see any real advantage to doing so.
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>>54404463
I have Google docs, paint.net, and Photoshop all, so I'll give each a whirl. Thanks for the advice.
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>>54404460
>and among other things I will make Empower purchasable a second time.
And with that my complaints are gone thank you tok
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>>54404499
>best workflow is to familiarize yourself with Photoshop ... it's just a handy tool to have.
I agree with you absolutely *if* you think you might use Photoshop for things other than CYOAs. For me, I knew that I would not.
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>>54404508
ms publisher would allow you to do everything you would do in google docs, paint and the online tool but in one piece of software
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>>54403304

23 Points Total, 9 in Pink:

Regen: Power of Worship

Spells: Summon Diety (U), Empower (U), Divine Portal (U), Divine Blessing, Power Word: Stop

Empower Spell: Bind (U)

Boons: Discrete Spellcasting; Signature Spell (Portal)

Corrption: Yandere, Sadist, Nympho

Build: Gotta minimize the corruption, the key is to have strong defensive abilities, lest some idiot that competes with you try to fuck up your shit. Making portal my trademark spell is a real trick, presuming the dimension has necessities (food, water, a bathroom) I wouldn't have to leave. The 3 MP/Min mana cost is extremely steep, so making it a person skill might break the system.

Discrete casting would allow me to cast divine blessing to set peoples age to 3 years. I presume I can undo it so they age normally from that date. I can use this in self defense if some dickwad mage tries anything funny near me.

Lastly, I gave my diety Bind (U) for funstuff and in case she needs to fight. Putting ballgags and handcuffs on mages would be effective.

Overall: It's a well designed CYOA from a skill system perspective. The accounting is a pain, but whatever. I really like how you assign yourself a school based on your fetishes. I also appreciate how you pick new pics for the censored version. That's an underrated detail.
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Photoshop vs Photoshop express?
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>>54404527
I'll consider giving it a look for my next CYOA (not going to "convert over" existing ones). Thanks, anon.
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>>54404480
Change Enlarge and Shrink so they deal with only full-body shrinking. Say the basic level enlarges and/or shrinks the target by a factor of three, while making the more extreme changes upgrade only.

Doing this, you are now able to remove the biggest (and weirdest) restriction on the transform spell. At this point, the only things transform can't do without combining other spells is gender change and age change. If you include age change in upgraded transform at this point, it would be fine.

Now this isn't an ideal solution, TF is still very expensive compared to other fetishes this way, but it did cut out about half of the insane cost, making it far more livable.

So although it isn't perfect, you don't need to make any new spells for this solution.
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>>54404460
Tok, if I may propose an alternative ruleset. I posted it earlier but want your take on it. I mainly propose it because forced drawbacks are not well received and I think it does alleviate some problems.

Changes
1) Spells Points aren't determined by fetishes but instead you start with 6 Points for your Primary School and 4 Points for your Secondary School. This means to max out your primary school you would need to take all but 2 points of drawbacks available in that color and maxing out your secondary would require all of them.

2) You start with 20 Points for Boons, Embrace Corruption isn't a Boon Option anymore.

3) Corruption Points aren't automatically gained from spells. Instead of costs Corruptions are optional drawbacks that either give you Spell Points the same color as the Drawback (Slut gives Yellow, Mental Changes gives Green, etc.) equal to their cost or may instead give you Boon Points equal to their cost times 5.
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>>54404460
>>54403304
>>54403311
>>54403328
>>54403342
I should probably have linked the strawpool to Eronomicon. >>54404460 Vote if you want the rules for Corruption changed or not.
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>>54404480
Not him but you could split Shapeshifting into different spells
>Spell 1: Genderbending
Turns men into women and women into men
>Spell 2: Futa
Gives men tits and women dicks
>Spell 3: Youth
Makes people younger or older
>Spell 4: Beautification
General stuff like removing scars and making people more attractive
>Spell 5: Sex stuff
Change dick and tit size, give a woman her virginity back and so on
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>>54404562
>Spells Points aren't determined by fetishes
>proposing the removal of the most unique thing about the CYOA
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>>54404460
>>54404572
I for one LIKE that corruption is tied to schools. I suppose that possibility didn't occur to you?
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>>54404553
I like it and will make it so.

>>54404562
I don't like it, since it messes with the whole identity of the CYOA.
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>>54404536
Hey Ros, are you getting closer to finishing the Be a Lesbian and get an Author Waifu CYOA?
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>>54404572
A much better solution would be to introduce a 5 point boon which allows you to spend a single color's corruption on any corruption options.

Like, if you have 5 red corruption and 3 blue corruption, and then buy the corruption spreading boon for red, you can spend those 5 red corruption points on any corruption choices, while blue is still limited to blue.
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>>>54404553
Fair enough
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>>54404523
But that doesn't mean you should dismiss Photoshop simply because you don't plan on using it for other things. It's easily one of the best, if not the best program, to make image/graphic-heavy CYOAs in. Especially with the amount of photomanipulation you'd do in a standard CYOA.

It just offers some of the best tools, hands down.

>>54404537
I assume you mean Elements.

There's really no point to it unfortunately. AFAIK it isn't intended for more manual/detailed work, it's just for touching up photos via the clock of a few buttons. If you're concerned with formatting a CYOA, go with CC.
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>>54404650
>clock
Click
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>>54404650
Didn't dismiss photoshop. I very explicitly said that I wasn't suggesting not to use photoshop. Rather, I said that if anon found photoshop too daunting to use, that there were perfectly acceptable ways to make CYOAs with other programs, if the alternative was no CYOA at all.

There's no question the most beautiful CYOAs require photoshop, though.
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>>54404650
No it says express. I don't own the real Photoshop but Windows 10 came prepackaged with this I guess.
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>>54404499
>but I like them and building them is one if my main motivators.
I just don't see a need to turn them into a cyoa then. There's a super niche cyoa I'd love to play but I don't enjoy writing one the same way I do playing one.
I can't play my own so what's really the point in writing a cyoa only I could enjoy - and I can't enjoy it because I wrote it?
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>>54403304
>be into pink and red
>red is useless if you just want to be with your deity

Also, would be cool to have more cheap (2-5 points) boons to buy
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>>54404738
Red is useless in general and you should never take it. And I say this as someone with 14 points in red.
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hmm... has anyone done a waifu CYOA where you are dropped in a fantasy world with nothing but the clothes on your back, and you have to learn to survive, but luckily <insert waifu> has decided to protect you until you figure things out? Where the waifus would be based on classic fantasy RPGs tropes, of course.
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>>54404775
Hehehe/10
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>>54404760
This, yellow and blue can do practically everything red can do and more.
Though the law ability does sound really cool.
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>>54404775
Pokemon Personified
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>>54404760
>And I say this as someone with 14 points in red.
As another person with 14 points in red, I tend to agree, the only one I want is Enforce Law, while Normalify would get me most of what I want from that anyway, and I grabbed Charm which is just better as far as I am concerned at doing what Enslave does anyway. and I can't stand any of the red corruption options.
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>>54404796
The law thing is sort of unique but it doesn't really have much bite in the end.

The only worthwhile spell red has is summon succubus.
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Could someone please post horseman cyoa? Kingdom of horseman
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>>54404805
hmm... a good reference to start, but not quite what I mean. That one has you competent from the get-go. In the CYOA I'm envisioning you'd be pretty hopeless at the start, though with the potential to grow in whatever direction you wanted.
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>>54404822
Even then you just use advanced summon from blue to do the same thing and mind sculpt from blue to make them your servants.
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>>54404858
Or charm from yellow to make them your servants, or summon an abyssal girl instead of a succubus, and so on
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>>54403304
Yellow:11
Green:7
Blue:11
Purple:11
Pink:14
Red:14
Black:5

Total Points:74

First School:Pink Eromancy
Mana Regen:Power of Worship

Spells:
Empower Mastery
Summon Deity Mastery
Divine Portal Mastery
Divine Blessing Mastery
Divine Gift Mastery

Corruption:
Orgasm Denial
Sadist
Slave

Second School: Red Eromancy

Spells:
Enslave
Hex
Enforce Law Mastery
Summon Succubus Mastery

Corruption:
Vampire Girl
Role Reversal
Kinky Wardrobe

Tertiary School: Blue Eromancy
Mana Regen: Internal Ley Lines

Spells:
Time Stop
Spatial Manipulation Mastery
Electrolyze
Summon Person Mastery

Corruption:
Magomaniac
Manatanks

Boons:
Tertiary School
Mana Conduit
Hidden Power (Summon tentacles)
Apprentice
Embrace Corruption

Extra Corruption:
Flasher
Slut
Elf Girl
Summon
Spirited Away

Deity-Calidite: Goddess of Love, Sex, Beauty, Art, Architecture, and Slavery
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>>54404775
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>>54404905
ah, yes! Something like that. I might still do one (somewhat less sexual, because I'm prudish by the standards of this board), but I'll have to make it distinct from that in some way.

Thanks, anon.
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>>54398004
>Penalties
Stench(29)
Blindness(35)
Mute(37)
+10 Years(47)

>Food
Sweet Cube(46)
Coffefee/Gween Tea+ Additional Brands(41)
---English Breakfast, Jasmine, Masala Chai, Amaretto, Old Blue Eyes

>Health&Hygiene
Basic Toiletries(40)
Proper Toilet(38)
Shower+Hot Water+High Tech(33)
Medbay+Cure Ailments+Prolong life(19)
>Entertainment
Surround walls(18) (Full of albums in single flacs for maximum jewery)
Kindle+Library(14)

>Room
Enviromental Controls+Self Cleaning(12)

>Extras
No time passed(3)
1.5m dosh(0)

At last, I have all the time to catch up on my backlog...
wait a minute, I must catch up on my backlog...Then, I must be in the Other Place!
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>>54404905
Also, cultist is best girl, obviously.
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>>54404499
>(or any description) any longer
that makes me actually pretty sad desu
would have been nice
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>>54404775
I know of two CYOAs that are kind of like that: Stranded Harem and Monster Girl Survival Island. I think the latter might say you don't even arrive with clothes.

It's an interesting idea. If you're interested in doing something with it, I think you should try.
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>>54404895
Though to be fair to red, it seems like it's made for people who are complete sadists, not good for much else other than sadism but if you like sadism more power to you.
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>>54404760
>>54404796
>I don't like being a dom. Therefore red eromancy sucks.
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>>54403941
>Fundamental things like social norms, culture, practices and politics because God said so?
The source for many such things, according to ancient cultures. Worldbuilding is, after all, founded on the recreation of ancient myths. So long as it's not mishandled, there's nothing wrong with this.

Honestly, this is pretty much what I meant by Reddit. An obsession with ASoIaF-style "serious" worldbuilding with grounded details all about shit nobody in their right mind would care for. A kind of reduction of anything vague and mysterious because everything has to have a clinical, neat little explanation which will absolutely fail to be satisfying, because how could it be otherwise.
Besides, think of it this way: what ARE those things based upon? Environment and luck, unless you're a literal (LITERAL) racist. And the God is the environment, or at least a massive part of it.
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>>54405003
The criticism is that anything that red can do the other schools can do just as well if not better.
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>>54399251
>>54403404
And here's an update of my shared support build, AKA the Great Zardoz.

Time: 20,000 BC
Fate: Immortal Wanderer (+90)
Modifiers
- Quester, Sorcerer Supreme (-10)
- Wizard (-30)
- Multiplayer (+10)

Mental
- Genius 3 (-10)
- Memory of the Ages 2 (-5)
- Wellspring of Harmony (-5)
Mental Total: -20

Running Total: 40

Supernatural
- Mage Eye (Free)

Physical
- Strength & Speed 0 (Free)
- Reflexes & Reaction 0 (Free)
- Impervious 0 (Free)
- Regeneration 0 (Free)
- Pain Control (-2)
- Endurance 0 (Free)
- Super Senses 0 (Free)
- Diet 0 (Free)
- Sanitary Convenience (-2)
Physical Total: -4

Running Total: 36

Magical
- Divination, Major (-5)
- Telepathy, Major & Imbue Minor (-7.5)
- Stormsage, Major & Imbue Minor (-7.5)
- Blessed One, Major & Imbue Major (-10)
- Master of Motion, Major & Imbue Major (-10)
- Spirit Singer, Major & Imbue Major (-10)
- Binding, Major & Imbue Major (-10)
Magical Total: -60

Running Total: -24

Items
- Book of Culture (-5)
- Book of Knowledge (-5)
Item Total: -10

Running Total: -34

Drawbacks
- Skin of the Outsider (+15)
- Nearly Mortal (+10)
- Unpleasant Visage (+5)
- Clouded Vision (+5)
Drawback Total: +35

End Total: 1

Quests
- Sorcerer Supreme
- An Empire Eternal

Changes:
The Great Zardoz now appears to people as whatever ethnicity they most hate. In a way, he has become like an old fable about a wandering stranger and not judging a book by its cover. You should be polite to those you meet, even if you don’t like their kind, because you might actually be talking to the Great Zardoz without realizing it.

I've also used the wizard fate modifier to make room for Spirit Singer and Binding, so now I can also befriend spirits and summon elementals and the like. Maybe I can use one as a service elemental to help deal with the fact that I can't see worth a damn.
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>>54403872
>Certainly "a god did it" is NOT bad worldbuilding. That is the kind of Reddit memery that ends with you cringing away from "tropes"/cliches as if subversion is something to be lauded all on its own (it's not). This is seeing some people misuse it and then assuming it can NEVER be good, without understanding what made them bad in those situations and what can make them good in others.
Nah, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. "god did it" isn't just some cliches, it's literally hand waving it, unless the gods are actual characters with depth like the greek gods.
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>>54405087
>unless
Woah really
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>>54405087
Also, handwaving is also not inherently bad. I know a lot of people don't like hearing that, but the sheer fact is that good writers know when to excuse something unimportant to focus on the stuff which matters.
And we're talking Shakespeare when we say "good writers".
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>>54404460
Went ahead and informed people in the other thread about it: >>>/trash/10533059
Also, that other guy posted the edited first page you were asking about: >>>/trash/10533139
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>>54405184
toothpaste
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>>54404037
I DID like this, and a lot. I think it's my favourite of the ones you've made, but I don't like your style of CYOAs so that should tell you something.
The concept's GOAT. Unlike that other anon, I love being able to place myself in this situation -- being a teacher, and figuring out how I'd interact with students. The huge flattery helps, too. But, like anon, I do want to be me (but I exercise my radical freedom and do that anyway).
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>>54405184
Trypophobia, and an instant need to close that image.
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>>54405062
Love the theme of the fable :). With any luck, you'll actually encourage a bit less xenophobia in the world.
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>>54405184
Custard with hundreds and thousands.
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>>54405072
You do know, the spells in the red tree do no necessarily mean you must force them to do what you desire...
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>>54404978
>>54405003
Except you can do domination and sadism better with other colors
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>>54404688
looks like it's still the same deal though
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>>54405184
Something dirty
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>>54405022
>So long as it's not mishandled
how is 'because god' not mishandling it. If there was some story or something to accompany it, some motivation for the god or anything really, sure. But as it stands it's calling it 'worldbuilding' is ridiculous.
>Honestly, this is pretty much what I meant by Reddit
No, you're just using reddit as 'thing I don't like'. What you're saying actually fits way better into the mindset common on reddit.
Highly narrativist games with low amounts of crunch are way more favored on reddit as opposed to /tg/ where crunchy systems have a decent following. Fate is basically reddit: the pnp rpg, getting constantly recommended on there, while it basically never gets mentioned here.
>with grounded details all about shit nobody in their right mind would care for
"caring about things I don't like means you're stupid/autistic/insane", nice point
>A kind of reduction of anything vague and mysterious because everything has to have a clinical, neat little explanation
false dichotomy, you dolt. There's a middle ground between defining everything and not having any rules at all. There are enough rpg systems that are both capable of being mysterious and having rules, like world of darkness.

>Besides, think of it this way: what ARE those things based upon? Environment and luck, unless you're a literal (LITERAL) racist. And the God is the environment, or at least a massive part of it.
The problem is not that the laws or stuff like that is influenced by god(s), which is a pretty common element and definitely not inherently bad or anything. If there is nothing to it beyond that, it's shit though.
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>>54405184
a negative of an enhanced color astronomical photo
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>>54405184
an arm that got dunked in a container of weird blue fluid
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>>54405289
DING DING DING, except there's no enhanced color that I know of. This cyoa making stuff is difficult and annoying when you don't know the software but it's kind of fun seeing what you can do. Lot's of issues but lot's of fun too.
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>>54405184

Think someone just cast either a time stop or world destruction spell.
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>>54405260
I would not call being picked up by a god of the hunt driven by a need to glut on hunting "because god".
>you're just using reddit as 'thing I don't like'
Believe me, I'm not. Because it's much more active than the general thread I used to go on the /r/worldbuilding subreddit quite a lot, but eventually I couldn't take it any more. They're (mostly) very, very bad, and in the ways I've said. They're the kind of people who expect an evolutionary explanation for your elves, and who think magic being science by another name is the most genius idea of all.
So, I'm not just blindly insulting everything I disagree with.
>Highly narrativist games with low amounts of crunch are way more favored on reddit
This is true.
By the way, my favourite system is Song of Swords. I also dislike narrativist systems and campaigns, although I don't have anything against people who do like them. But everything I've said is disconnected from systems.
>There's a middle ground
I didn't say "everything should be vague", I said that reducing vagueness was a bad idea. Also WoD is shit, what's wrong with you unless it changed recently or something.

Bluntly, if you want to focus on characters hunting, you should do so. You shouldn't waste time on anything else. Everything should feed into the hunt, from the food to motivations to pasts to myths.
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>>54404714
What's the point in writing them in the form of a story, or drawing a picture of it? World building is excellent for these things.

>>54405022
Except there is a huge difference between creating the foundations of society with ties to religious beliefs versus an actual God applying all of his bullshitery because the author was too lazy to rationalize why things are the way they are.

By your logic, every piece of fiction would be better off without proper world building and when authors dismiss all forms of rationality with deus-ex machinas. And world building doesn't mean putting all the little details in the medium you are presenting the setting in. I'm not going to tell you that two-button blazers are currently in style unless it has a point in the plot, or if it adds to the atmosphere of the narrative.

You are literally dismissing every piece of fiction by hand-waving it as Reddit ettiquette.
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>>54405414
I think you're missing the key point here. I don't think Bliss' handling of the god was GOOD. I think it was the right kind of thing to do, as opposed to the town section, which I think was conceptually bad.

No, I mean that it's not inherently bad for a god to act as a character in a world and be the cause of things. Like, on their own. Not just as some religious shenanigans (not "we worship Hermes so we do THIS", but "Hermes cursed every third child so we do THIS").

And by and large, yeah, worldbuilding's a bit pointless. It's fun but outside of RPGs it's really not necessary. You think the Homer worked out the trade patterns of the Phaiakians?
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>>54405414
>versus an actual God applying all of his bullshitery because the author was too lazy to rationalize why things are the way they are.
I don't think this is really a problem, as long as the God has characteristics and reasons for why they do things. Motivations. Because then, really, what you have isn't a handwave so much as an explanation that happens to focus on one specific character rather than many of them.
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>>54398124
Sex: Male
Age: 16

Power source: genetics

Changes

Emotional: dulled (+5)
Physical: no changes
Mental: Sharpened (-3)
Life: no change (+10)
Memory: Dissonance
Spiritual: magnet (+5)


Gifts
Telekinesis (43)
Precision (41)
Remote viewing (39)
Healing (37)
Self service (32)
Tongues (30)
Teleportation (28)
Indirect sight (26)
Interference (24)
Targeted (22)
Invisibility(17)
Vitality (14)
Immunity (11)
Athleticism ( 7)
Peak human (4)
Pyrokinesis (1)
Dowsing (0)

Curses
Cycle; powers wax and wane with the moon


Guardian: nobody
Home: Yarrow falls

Allies: Kate Fox, Peter Blake, Danny Glass, Louise Webb and Charlie Hedden

Perks: inheritance and Emancipation
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>>54405387
This is how they make color photos in astronomy, at least in general
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>>54405509
>And by and large, yeah, worldbuilding's a bit pointless
For the health of a setting, it is. A setting that people actually care about needs substance. Establishing fundamentals helps you build cultures and characters which have an impact on the story.

A story about hunters hunting monsters may not have to present its foundations and cultures and politics, but to say that it's bad when such a setting has these things (or worse, calling it Reddit behaviour) is preposterous. In fact, most people would agree the opposite is true, that to create something people really care about involves good world building practices.

The only excuse for stripping world building from such a thing is just so you can insert your own forms of world-building.

>>54405599
It's fine when done well, but I want to emphasize that doing it out of laziness or a lack of creativity is inexcusable. Doing that is literally the definition behind deus ex machina.
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>>54405289
Makes sense. The picture inspired a sort of Mayan mysticism/astrology/astronomy, from my point of view.
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Could someone please post the Cowboy CYOA?
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>>54403304
what is fannypacking?
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>>54405809
Strap a small girl to your chest, with spread legs, insert dick, fuck her while walking.
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>>54405003
>Only spell not done vastly better by blue or yellow is Enforce Law
>Red corruption options either represent a serious loss of control or basically rewrite your entire personality.
>Most of them are untenable for any dom

If you like being a dom, go Blue/Yellow and enjoy not being forced to choose between turning into a sociopath or burning to death when you go outside during the day.
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>>54405405
>I would not call being picked up by a god of the hunt driven by a need to glut on hunting "because god".
I mean, it's literally 'god of x wants you to x'. It strikes me as the epitome of being lazy, uncreative and boring. I would rather take no explanation rather than something like 'the bloodthirsty god of war wanted war, so the humans warred'. That just feels like an insult to my intelligence.
>people on reddit being autists
If we're talking about a community focused on worldbuilding, I guess so, though that's what I would kind of expect. If we're talking about creative works that involve worldbuilding I'm pretty sure this isn't true anymore though. At least, I've seen way more pedantic discussions about the mechanics of world x on /tg/ (though admittedly I'm not a huge reddit guy).
>But everything I've said is disconnected from systems
I don't see how. If you define mechanics you're also defining the world in terms of rigid rules. Vagueness of a world is in direct contrast to the precise definition of its rules.
>Also WoD is shit, what's wrong with you unless it changed recently or something
I can't say anything about the system, because I've never really played it, but the setting(s) always struck me as good examples of worlds that aren't vague, but at the same time retain a decent amount of mystery and openness to it.

>Bluntly, if you want to focus on characters hunting, you should do so.
>You shouldn't waste time on anything else.
Mentioning some irrelevant goddess is just literally that though. It's unnecessary world building, that is neither meaningful nor interesting.
>Everything should feed into the hunt, from the food to motivations to pasts to myths.
I don't think that's a hard rule, but it's definitely something that works. That's not an excuse for shit myths, pasts or whatever.
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>>54405696
Settings as a whole are unnecessary. Again, look to Homer -- the Odyssey takes place either in the "real" world or in a string of fantastical encounters with no cohesive, out-of-story rhyme or reason beyond "gods did it". Any "worldbuilding" is related to the story (for example, the cyclopes are shepherds, drawing parallels with the real world and making their boundless perversion of hospitality more shocking).
Obviously, the poem has substance, and the poem is cared for.

Settings themselves are best thought of as made out of stories. Really, to make a good setting (again, only necessary in RPGs), you need to make good stories. Hence why Eddison's Witchland and Demonland and Goblinland are still GOAT despite their hugely dumb names.

So, you are right when you say "a story doesn't need two-button blazers". But that means the WORLD doesn't need them, either. And less is more.
>but I want to emphasize that doing it out of laziness or a lack of creativity is inexcusable
Why? Do you think people would defend laziness and lack of creativity? But I will myself emphasise that handwaving to ensure your effort goes somewhere important (instead of being wasted on something not important) is a good thing.
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requesting the combat maid cyoa

because my dream in life is a harem of combat maidos
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>>54405851
>burning to death when you go outside during the day.
you also get the vampire strenghts though
>>54405881
Not being allowed to keep the meido has always been the dealbreaker for me.
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>>54405881

Kukukuku, what a perverted dream, truly you are the pinnacle of what it means to be a master.

Very well! I, Kogarashi the maid guy, shall join your combat maid harem!
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>>54405881
>modern looking sniper rifle
>rounds that look like they're from the 1850s
>holding round in mouth for no reason
>panty shot
???
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>>54405921
it's a combat maid ya dingus, they're not intended for actual combat
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>>54405876
>beyond "gods did it"
I like that they're given reasons to do so, though. Posidon acts because his son has been hurt, Athena acts because Odysseus is her favorite mortal, and Zeus acts because Athena is his favorite child. These details seem minor but I think they're actually crucial in making the story not just a series of "because Gods."
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>>54405855
It is an explanation -- it is a driving force. It has a human cause, even if in-universe it's inhuman. Your hatred of divinity doesn't take that away.
>Vagueness of a world is in direct contrast to the precise definition of its rules
Somebody better tell the guys who made Song of Swords that, then. You can have certain things be specific (how you swing your sword) and others be vague (who the G-D is).
>the setting(s)
The old setting's good because it's full of contradictions. They don't let something stupid like unification get in the way of good stories, like all the various apocalypses. This would be unacceptable, even I admit, were it not that the setting had the kind of mysterious tone that allowed two things to contradict but both to be right.
I don't know about the new setting. I heard they did away with the contradictions, so probably I wouldn't like it.

I don't know what your distinction is between vague and mystery.

>some irrelevant goddess
huh?
>I don't think that's a hard rule
Hard rules don't exist.

I'm saying that a god who wanders the world bringing wild hunting wherever he goes, for his own mad amusement, is not an insult on your intelligence.
>>54405949
They're a nice paste to cover any unseemly cracks, but it's to direct your attention AWAY from them and onto the struggles of Odysseus and his son.

In any case, consider why Odysseus is Athene's favourite mortal. It is because he is crafty, and she, she is crafty too. She is the goddess of craftiness. It is what and who she is. It is similar to the hunting god of monster hunter, see?
Even the whole Trojan Cycle can be attributed to this kind of thing: Eris sowed discord because she IS discord.
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>>54405900
Wow, I get to turn into a small bat, get a shitty knockoff of charm/mind-sculpt to hypnotise random sluts, and super-strength that I'll almost never need to use since most of the spells are much better at subduing people.

I only need to accept that churches, sunlight, Italian food, and silver can all instakill me, never sleep in an actual bed again, and bleed out people in order to survive (because exanguinated corpses are totally subtle and not likely to cause problems).
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>>54405219

Working on completely new character, both because of the updates and because I didn't just want to piggy-back off my last character Sitmut-Nefert. Will post in the next thread when finished.
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>>54405876
But the Odyssey has a setting and the entire poem builds up motives and narratives behind everything. It isn't just "Orestes killed his mom because the Gods made the world in a way that sons have to kill their mothers", he had clear motives to do so. Politics and relationships are shown to us through this, and that's a part of world building. Furthermore the Gods here have personalities, and it can be argued that they have their motives for doing these things. It's shown to us that they have the power to stir shit up and that they abuse their power. This is part of world building. This is the setting of the Odyssey, and a lot of its shortcomings are forgivable because of how foundational it was for western literature. But to think deus ex machina for important matters is acceptable by today's standards of writing is wrong. A break in immersion is a break in immersion.
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>>54406127
Look forward to it!

I'm working on a different CYOA now cause inspiration struck, so I will probably let more input for Alternate History accumulate for another thread or two before I try to make a "final" v2.
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>>54403304
>>54403311
>>54403328
>>54403342
Last Update!

Changelog
Green
>Enlarge: New description
>Shrink: New description
>Transform: New Description
>Gender Swap: New Description
>Invigorate: New Description
Pink
>Empower: Can be purchased a second time.

Uncensored version:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1CwO4KqTglodHhsOUVqNTFzeWc?usp=sharing
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>>54405945

Nah that pic is just lazy
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>>54406216
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>>54406262
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>>54406278
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>>54406016
>It is an explanation -- it is a driving force. It has a human cause, even if in-universe it's inhuman
Not denying that, I'm just saying that it's not a good driving force.
>Your hatred of divinity doesn't take that away.
I don't have any inherent problem with divine beings.
>Somebody better tell the guys who made Song of Swords that, then. You can have certain things be specific (how you swing your sword) and others be vague (who the G-D is).
Never said anything to the contrary

And I was just talking about old world of darkness.

Mystery is something that evokes a feeling, while vagueness is just things not being defined.

>huh?
for some reason, I associate 'the master of the hunt' with being female.

>Hard rules don't exist.
that's a hard rule

>I'm saying that a god who wanders the world bringing wild hunting wherever he goes, for his own mad amusement, is not an insult on your intelligence.
Inherently? No. If it's just a cheap setup for a cyoa? It definitely feels like one. (also, you just keep on adding parts onto it)
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>>54405876
>Settings as a whole are unnecessary
what, no, that only works for stories, not for cyoas/anything that is about roleplaying in some kind of world.
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>>54406216
are you considering making any changes in the red school?
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>>54406321
That's what I said you dongle.
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>>54406386
From /trash/

>last update for Eronomicon

He doesn't plan on changing anything else for the time being. Hopefully, that changes later, after enough time passes that he can stop taking criticism on the subject as a personal slight.
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>the sperg in this thread
holy shit some of you fuckers need to be culled
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>>54406408
>Recives criticism.
>Make 2 updates to Eronomicon
>Recives criticism.
>Makes 1 last update for Eronomicon
>Anon says: "He doesn't plan on changing anything else for the time being. Hopefully, that changes later, after enough time passes that he can stop taking criticism on the subject as a personal slight."

Also I said this on /trash/ and this is why I won't change the corruption system:

>TokHaar here, I said I diden't want to change the Corruption system because it ruins the lore, integrity and artistic vision for Eronomicon. The corruption is a vital part of Eronomicons uniqueness and flavor. Changing it would make Eronomicon more generic and something it was not intended to be. If you don't want to take the drawbacks for a certain school, then don't take too many spells. Making the CYOA easier and catering to people who want to take more powers for less penalties is a slippery slope. If I back down now, this will only embolden the people who wants minimum drawbacks and maximum powers to whine at every CYOA I make. Eronomicons artistic integrity and core mechanics will not be changed to make the CYOA easier.
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>>54406541
I don't want to blow too much smoke up your ass here because flattering namefags is generally a bad idea, but good on you for sticking to your guns where needed while also taking criticism into account.
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>>54406501
By virtue of browsing this thread, you're one of us and thus deserving of the same fate.

>>54406541
>Eronomicon
>Lore
That being said, good on you for not backing down on your design choices.

You could seriously use an editor or at least some spell check use though, despite my guilt at not using either.
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>>54406501
There's a CYOA for that.
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>>54403234
>(rewriting them is NOT controlling them)
Sure, if you have no imagination.

Just write a rule that they have to follow your orders while everything else goes on the same in their heads. Or write a rule that makes them feel wonderful when they obey and terrible when they resist. Or something like that.

Mind Sculpt is all you need. The fact that it can be used for overkill doesn't mean you have to use it that way.
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>>54406652
>You could seriously use an editor or at least some spell check use though, despite my guilt at not using either.
I would really improve his preformance.
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>>54406652
>You could seriously use an editor or at least some spell check use though, despite my guilt at not using either.
tfw you are too lazy to learn a new program, but desperately want some program which is easier do changes in. Also having 2 versions, 1 censored and unscensored version does not help.
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Any news about times of troubles v2?
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>>54406751
even basic shit like paint.net supports layers
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>>54406541
I don't think >>54404619 would ruin the corruption system. It would be a nice way to ameliorate some of the bad parts of the system while keeping the good.
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>>54406216
>"It's weird that you can't make people's breasts larger without spending tons of points on unrelated things."
>"Done! Now you can't make people's breasts larger at all!"
Did you forget to change Transformation or something?
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>>54406751
Quick question/suggestion to clarify the Empower update. Can you take the upgraded version on the second buy of the spell, and if you do, can you then take a third buy? The former seems fine, but the latter is a bit op, imo.
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>>54406966
The first is correct
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>>54397907
>when you don't want to start the new thread with your medium-quality waifushit but the current OP has this garbage

conflicted
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>>54407101
>you don't want to start the new thread with your medium-quality waifushit
Do it. Go hog wild.
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>>54407116
not today, people would know I'm the one who calls other authors trash
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>>54407135
>I don't want people to know I'm shittalking them
Even SDA has more spine than you.
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>>54407065
So two empowers only right?
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>>54407101
Better take a toaster bath.
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I thought it'd be easier to write for CYOAs but this is actually difficult, to think of things. Who knew? I keep erasing and starting over.
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>>54407190
>>54407065
>>54406966
Wow, Empower's description really is completely retarded, now that I look at it. I think it's trying to restate something which was already obvious (you can, in fact, get upgrades for spells!) by saying something which is completely wrong (you can buy empower as many times as you like)
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>>54407226
the hardest part is sourcing images
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>>54407252
Not even that hard, just time consuming.
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>>54407273
It's boring you mean.

>>54407252
Nah, putting everything together after you've written the text and found the images is far worse. That's just a mindless slog.
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>>54407301
that's why i format as i go
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>>54407301
Ah, writing in a notepad or something before actually trying to transition it to an image is probably a good idea.
>>54407252
What do you mean by sourcing images?
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I know were real deep into this, but can i have a 1 page cyoa?
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>>54407329
That doesn't help, since making text bubbles is very fast. Getting everything into position and editing the images is what takes a long time.
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New bread - >>54407370
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>>54407356
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>>54405184
Zyklon B residue on a gas chamber wall
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>>54407356
Knock yourself out

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/subject/CYOA/type/op/

>>54407380
Man holy fuck, I've never found a new thread in a fucking offsite archive before I noticed it here on actual /tg/ before.
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