Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

First for something

SALAMANDERS

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BLACK TEMPLARS INTO THE FIGHT!

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Second for posting the same pictures every time you contribute.

Is the ADL with quad-gun good? am I a cunt for wanting to use it @1000pts?

7th for why do I still play Black Templar when they only get worse with each edition.

Chapter Tactics:

Top Tier: Raven Guard, Salamanders

High Tier: Ultramarines, White Scars

Mid Tier: Iron Hands

Low Tier: Imperial Fists, Black Templars

>>54387445
we won't know until the codex is released

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>>54387437
Multiple small units inside one of these bad boys

>>54387445
Any* as CT don't affect vehicles**

>* Iron Hands probably get a sweet vehicle stratagem
>** If the Ultramarine CT article is to be believed.

>>54387459
BS 5+ isn't great IMO (a lot of fliers have a -1 to hit which will even out the +1 bonus it gets against stuff with FLY). Might be good for gunning down what used to be jump units and skimmers as they have the FLY keyword too, but that very much depends on your local meta.

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So with no word from FW on when or even if they'll do their tactics, what codex tactics would you recommend for the FW chapters?

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FOR THE DARK CITY!!!

>>54387495
>what codex tactics would you recommend for the FW chapters?

1. Find Parent Chapter, and use theirs
Or.
A. Find Chapter Tactic that is a similar strategy and use theirs

>>54387470
If being able to ignore cover art-wide is low tier, then I fear playing the space marines between now and when my codex arrives

>>54387517
>DORK
FTFY

>>54387466
This.
We Orks now

>>54387495
Just give sharks Templar tactics and call it a day.

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>>54387470

>>54387495

the Raven Guard CT fits Raptors even better than it does Raven Guard. Space Sharks take re-roll charges.

Every other chapter is lame so who gives a fuck.

>>54387524
Cover is shit this edition.

Hard to get and bonus is mostly negligible.

>>54387495
Id say raven guard for Mantis Warriors

>>54387495
Just use their progenitor's chapter for now, Raven Guard is pretty good for Sharks as you wont get shot as much and the stratagem can easily help you place an assaulting unit close enough so that you can move them and then charge. An anon was always bitching about Red Brethren being super clunky to use, now he can use the stratagem to simply place a 10 man terminator unit on the board, move them and charge on turn 1.

So, are ork armies crap again now that marines can be impossible to hit with shooting (raven guard), impossible to outmanouver (white scars) or impossible to tie up in melee (ultramarines)?

>>54387466
>when they only get worse with each edition.

I find reroll charges better than Rage / Counter-Attack for 1 turn after losing dudes.

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>>54387454
Oldie but a goodie : ^ )

>>54387558
All you need is to stick all your guys in a building or forest or behind a barracade. Not that hard at all. I mean, if your a tankguard at maximum spam then sure you got a problem but then, you already had a problem not fielding infantry in 8th.

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>>54387554

>>54387602
All your guys.

Cover is all or nothing, which makes it hard to get.

>>54387611
You need to play with more terrain.

>>54387558
You just have to be touching terrain and it makes the most common unit in the game twice as durable.

>>54387611
Cover is applied to remaining models if you remove models out of cover when getting casualties.

>>54387412
>The image you post is used for the General OP
That aside, trying to decide which Chapter Tactic to go for my gunline Marine army after Bolter drill got the shaft.

Raven Guard seem the most defensive with fun deep strike stratagems, and IH is chunky as usual, but the UM one is now pretty in line with standing defiantly against a tide of enemies.

Hopefully the old stuff like Flamecraft and Adamantium will Templar come back at strats.

>>54387640
No you don't. Fucking Christ the rules are 12 pages just read them.

Should I paint my marines (mostly primaris) as Raptors or Mantis Warriors?

>>54387611
Most people are going to be running five man marine squads, which are pretty easy to get a cover bonus with.

Yeah, it's useless if you are running orks, but most people aren't.

>>54387611
I guess that's a problem with bigger units

>>54387663
lamenters

>>54387524
It's situational, certain armies it's great. Others it's a waste

>Anecdotal I know, but my meta we got Orks, Space Marines, Daemons, AdMech, Guard, Tau, and Tyranids.

>And since we play with Advanced Rules(?) Where non-infantry need obscurity to get a cover... really only the Space Marine player plays cover. Most others either use non-infantry (AdMech and Tau), use transports (Orkz), is impractical to get entire units in cover (Guardsmen and Tyranids) or don't benefit from it (Daemons)

>Line of Sight blockers tho. Are great.

>>54387493
So I can just ditch the gun and save some points, not too bad I guess. Do you know if it would be dickish to use at 1kpts? I dont wanna roll up in my shop with primaris and be a dick on top of that.

>Iron Hands get virtually useless and flavorless chapter tactics
Oh boy I am laffin, I hope the cucks have their whole expose in a half paragraph between pages of ultras and fists

>>54387675
Dude im going to use an Aquila Strongpoint at 60PL. Don't feel bad about an aegis, even at 500

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>Wear flashy color
>Insane fixation with pain
>Ignore cover

>>54387681
6+ to save a wound is bland, but okay.

>>54387412
>Salamamders' tactic is absolutely amazing
>two free re-rolls for a Salamanders unit with this tactic - this means multiple units benefit from this every turn
>EVERY TIME they shoot or fight, so actually it's up to 4 rerolls per unit
>that's an equivalent of multiple command points each turn every turn for every unit for free
>holy fucking shit

VULKAN LIVES!
VULKAN LIVES!

BT tactic is good, what the fuck are y'all talking about?

I only play against BT, i'm gonna get my cornhole waxed with ultracoarse grit sandpaper.

>>54387681
>Flavorless
Nice B8 m8

>>54387681
>W-we'll get Gorgon's chain back as our Relic, just you wait and see!
Bandwagoners btfo again

>>54387717

Even better don dreddys

>>54387586
>raven guard
Da jump a blob less than 12" away

>white scars
bring shoota boys, overwatch

>ultramarines
they can't fall back if they're all dead

>>54387717
Yeah but you have to paint all your guys black, it's like they are cucking your miniatures.

>>54387681
6+ fnp cybernetics have been a thing since 4th you mong

>>54387726
>Bandwagoners btfo again
Considering how NuGW is jumping on the memetrain, we'll probably see a canon cataphractii terminator captain riding on a modified bike.

Wait I just read the White Scars article and it mentioned the rules applied to Dreadnauts.

WHEN DID WHITE SCARS START BEING OKAY WITH DREADS?

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>>54387663
Mantis

>>54387770
Just because they dont like them doesnt mean they dont have them.

>>54387663
>Raptors or Mantis Warriors?

Definitely Mantistors although Rap Warriors could be okay.

>>54387657
models don't need to be entirely within terrain, just units. As long as the tip of your base is in terrain, the model counts as in terrain

>>54387657

Toe in is perfectly legal you fucking moron.

>>54387698
Thank god, I am terrified of being seen as waacfag and playing primaris as my first army will already brand me a noob.

>>54387788
>DeathGuardBikersCoughingInTheDistance.sic

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>hey bro you don't mind if I use my custom model do you?

New World Eater and Emperor's Children models when?

>>54387796
>Rap Warriors
Oh does Ancient Dreadnaught Shakur still have PE Orks or is Warboss Biggie Smallz no longer Canon?

>>54387726
They'll probably just refluff as Salamander descendants or whatever else ends up overpowered.

>>54387521
Great with Raven Guard CTs!

One relic per chapter, with generic relics shared between chapters.

>>54387818
I've also seen this on normie book and that thing is ass fucking ugly.

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>Codexes only getting released in English.
>Jap 40k community is going bonkers on twitter and 2ch because they can't read shit.
>TFW I'm fluent in 5 languages.

sure feels goot

>>54387822
Not soon enough

>>54387861
>>Codexes only getting released in English.
Source?

>>54387822
After plastic aspect warriors but before plastic sisters. So probably never.

>>54387861
Too bad your yiff start collecting is gone :^)

>>54387657
"within" and "completely within" are two different things in the rules.

"Within" just means some part of the model is in, like with terrain or most buffs from Captains and the like.

"Completely within" means every part of the model must be in range and no parts out of range. Like Kustom Force Fields.

>>54387758
>having marines modeled without helmets.

>>54387861
Don't worry, Japs, spacemarineheroes.com is launching any day now! :^)

What chapter tactics should I use for a Chapter that just focuses on getting shit done. Basically just; whatever is most effective for the mission, no matter how dirty or how dishonorable. (With a medieval theme)

Last edition I just used to switch around for whatever I felt like; but the Smurf chapter tactics actually look mildly in line with my chapter ethos.

Though I should probably use the Black Templars ones; as I copied the whole "knight and squire" theme for my recruitment and training structure.

>>54387919
Black Templars

>>54387914
its in september m8

and like $8 a model lol.

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>>54387818
Okay, but here's my stormsurge.

>>54387919
>getting shit done, most effective for the mission
Iron Hands
>no matter how dirty or how dishonorable
Carcharodons
>medieval theme
Black templars

>>54387919
If they work in any way similar to how they did in 6/7th then Red Hunters are your bois

>>54387717
They will love lascannons and multimeltas in ther tacsquads.

>>54387861
Does Japs even have a decent size community ? 40k seems not quite popular there.

>>54387919
>What chapter tactics should I use for a Chapter that just focuses on getting shit done.

I'd say Salamanders is the most flexible, no match you'll ever not benefit from extra rerolls

>>54387719

Talk me down from the ledge. How is a reroll for charges even near the same level as giving all infantry fly, -1 to hit rolls targeting them, ignoring cover, a boatload of command point rerolls for hits and wounds, etc.?

>>54387919
Sounds like ultra tactics would fit the best. Ultramarines also have the most amount of successor chapters and very few are that close to the ultras themselves, the fluff would support an ultramarine successor more.

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T'au, Nids or Orks - which one is the most poorfag friendly? Not for waac games - just want to run something casual
>inb4 ebay
Not a thing here so I have to buy from LGSs with ~20% discount on GW prices

>>54387919
Depends honestly.

Tho with the line:
>no matter how dirty or how dishonorable.

Imp Fists feels okay as they ignore cover.
Maybe using more "questonable" ammo.

Or just IH of 6+ to ignore Wounds, being
>can't die, got a mission to complete first.

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>>54387950
its just 3 guys

>>54387861
Lies. Seen the price for the French version.

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>>54387861
>nipponese ever indulging in inferior westernpiggu hobbies over their own home industries

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>>54387454
No Shame!

>>54387986
>ywn play with any three of the japanese 40k nerds

>>54387953

Because rerolling charges means you reroll both dice, using a command point only lets you reroll 1 of them. When you're charging 7 units in one phase its super worth it.

>>54387986
>just 3

>>54387975
Tau.
SC for then is great as buying either the suits or fire warriors alone is retarded.

>>54387976
>>54387955
>>54387952
>>54387942
>>54387941
>>54387936

I think I'll just switch it around between Iron hands, Black Templars, Imp fists and Ultras.

Raven guard doesn't fit with the knightly theme, no hiding like cowards.

I've already worked info the lore that they just knick all the geneseed available after a battle; so I imagine they must have some Marines that are decent at everything.

>>54387986
Hey, I remember those Tau. And btw
> Just 3

>>54387837
Doesn't work.

>>54387975
Of those 3 T'au just because the others generally run massive swarms to be any good which add up price wise.

Though if you don't mind playing elite versions of ork and nids that side step that I'd say Ork if you like the look of Dred Mobs, nids otherwise.

>>54387953
Re-roll charge is miles better than ignoring cover, IF are the ones that got cucked the most

>>54387986
> All those FW shit
They must be rich as fuck.

>>54388051
>neighbouring China
Uuuhhhh

>>54387702
You. I like you.

>>54388068
>japanese
>buying chinese things

>>54388037
What doesn't work anon? Running a stormeagle alongside marines with Raven Guard chapter tactics?

>>54387919
>most effective for the mission
Smerfs
>no matter how dirty or how dishonorable
Fists
>With a medieval theme
Templars, but they don't do dishonorable but effective things.

>>54388068
where to buy recast manta?

>>54387412
Guess that means I'll be going Raptor's instead of Warbringers.

>>54387986
Lies, I see a fourth guy in the background.

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>>54388049
I think the interns mixed up the Imperial Fist and Iron Warriors notes, as the bonuses are entirely about destroying fortifications rather than holding them. Oops.

>>54387986
They have several GW stores in Tokyo alone and GW has featured player armies from Japan before. One of the Citadel sculptors is Japanese too, he worked on the Genestealers among other things.

Salamanders tanks are going to be fucking brutal

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>>54387986
Battle brother spotted.

>>54387986
Are you the guy that took the pic ? Make it 5 then.

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>>54388093
Your local styrofoam supplier.

>>54387412
I still think the Ultramarines have the most generally useful trait.

Being able to take fewer losses from morale and being able to fall back and light your ass up is damned useful.

>>54388096
>memeing with Iron Cage

It was retconned in the BRB if you bothered to read.

It was just a great battle where Dorn disappeared. Nothing more. Fists lost lots but ultimately repelled the Iron Warriors, Perturabo with his tail between his legs.

Can someone explain charging flying units?

Say, chaos daemon flying unit. Can my non-flying great unclean one charge a flying kairos fateweaver? How does this work

>>54388123

Having to lose 4 guys before even taking a morale test is pretty significant and even then you only lose a guy on a roll of 6, rerollable too.

>>54388123
>Being able to take fewer losses from morale and being able to fall back and light your ass up is damned useful.
When the shift to Primaris is complete morale will have little impact on Marines because the units will be small.

>>54388086
The vehicle doesn't get it. So there isn't much a combo. If anything, Black Templar to charge out of.

>>54387681
As a deldar player I gotta say it comes in handy but then again I bring more wounds to the table.

If Carcharodons don't get their own chapter tactics I won't even be mad. Raven Guard tactics suits them perfectly.
>oh, you want to get up close and cancel out the -1 to hit?
>be my guest, and do enjoy the terminator rape inflicted upon you in the subsequent turn

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>kills you if you attack it
Would you consider this to be waac?

>>54388123
Raven Guard are better truth be told. Would you rather lose less models to morale, or just not lose models in the first place? And you can run sneaky Rifledreads in your backline, going "shh, I'm being sneaky" as they snipe your mech and Bikers with mass Autocannons.

>>54388142

The only thing fly does is let a unit fall back and shoot in the same turn.

Some flying vehicles have a different rule called Airborne, which says they cannot be attacked in the fight phase by anything that doesn't have fly.

So you can fight Kairos fine, you just cant charge a non-hovering valkyrie.

>>54388123
The +1 Ld is okay. With Ld8 (Sergeants) you need to lose 3/5 models before you can even LOSE models to morale (and you can reroll due to ATSKNF) getting Ld9 is overkill.

>>54387818
I actually kinda like it as a Greater Daemon of Slaanesh

>>54388139
...why the fuck would they retcon that? Oh wait, nuhammer.

>>54388123
Morale matters so little to marines anyway, there's like a 1/9 chance of the last man standing from a 5 man squad fleeing. Fall back+shoot is useful though.

>>54387818
If it's height appropriate, I don't see why not. That thing looks potentially awesome.

>>54388177
Leadership doesn't just matter for Morale though, it's used in lots of different ways, such as when a psychic power forces a leadership test or you take a mortal wound.

>>54387950
https://twitter com/hashtag/%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8F%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC?src=hash

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>>54388168

>>54388168
Only if you're list tailoring against zerkers or something

>>54387919
MARINES MALEVOLENT

>>54388168
Yes

>>54388139
Nothing is ever retconned in 40k anon, everything is canon. Iron Cage was a disaster for the Fists

Them Templar tactics are OK, you need the characters to Make it werf imo. Any idea what guard doctrine will look like? I have my kriegers now and I'm pretty happy with the index so far, but I might have the opportunity to pick up a couple platoons of vostroyans for cheap.

PLAGUE DOODS CODEX AND NEW UNITS WHEN

>>54388171
Alright. And question about pistols. You can use them when locked in combat, but does that replace a "melee" attack? Or can you fire the pistol in addition to making attacks in close combat?

>>54388168
Anything with more than AP0 is going to deny your mortal wounds on 6+. The Tidewall is a pretty decent way to keep your infantry alive, but nothing more. It's probably overcosted for what it does.

>>54388229
????

>>54388264
NO GREY KNIGHTS FIRST

>>54388271
In addition.

>>54388230
The terror of Anor Londo lives

>>54388264
9/22

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>>54387454
I should have new pictures soon from a game I'll be playing Thursday. I also want to get an army updated picture with better lighting. I just painted a few special weapons, some heavy weapons and I'm almost done with 4 of my Bullgryn.

I'm just stuck on what colors to paint these models.

>>54388280
hashtag warhammer in the Japs twitter, just put the dot before the com.

>>54388043
I actually like killa kans and deff dreads desu but will it be cheaper than Tau?

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>>54388288
A SHIT

>>54388271

You just flat out shoot them in the shooting phase like a normal gun, they just have to target the unit you're in melee with. They do not subtract anything from the fight phase.

>>54387593
They really do look like a band picture. Mon'Keigh Business is too good.

>>54388212
>leadership test or you take a mortal wound.
>leadership test
those dont exist anymore?

At best there stuff like purge soul which compares leadership + d6 to the caster and you take wounds if you roll lower?

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>>54387454
OK

>>54388264
August maybe? They really should have dedicated the 7th month of the year to Grandpa Nurgle though.

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>>54388255
>Nothing is ever retconned in 40k anon, everything is canon
ELFED
ELFED
ELFED
ELFED
make sure you said that to the beat of rasputin by boney M.

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>>54388296
Oldmeme but Goodmeme

>>54388335
Preaching to the choir, the waste an opportunity .

I wonder if the Fists' stratagem is crazy stupid to compensate for a mediocre, if situationally a little useful, chapter tactic.

>>54388304
What's a good conversion for bloodreavers? I was thinking khorne cultists.

>>54388317
Seiba says that like it's a bad thing.

>>54388316
Don't fall for the Dred Mob meme, it's fucking boring to only be able to use 10% of all units in your codex.

>>54388345
>tfw ultras have a long, proud history of boning xenos
Ooga booga where da eldar women at, we were spiritual lieges n shit.

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>>54388229
How american.

>>54388410
Dread Mob as a formation isn't a thing anymore.

>>54388306
Ah, I didn't notice that. I put it into search and didn't know what was going on.

>>54388296
kek

>>54388428
I mean the army as a general concept, it sucks to pigeonhole yourself like that

>>54388421
It's the other way around anon.

>>54387975
Orkz, because kitbashing is piss easy, and it's easier to spend 30$ a month then 60$ every two months.

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>>54388421
So should I stick with T'au? Sorry for asking so many times. I tried to brew up few lists for all these factions by myself but I'm just a newbie and I don't really know how to build some units properly

>>54388345
So wait, Space Marines were regular humans way back when?

>>54388255
>Space Marine by Ian Watson is now canon

Space Marines literally feast on their own shit. I'm okay with this

>>54388479
Not really, but servants of them like navigators and astropaths also wore power armour for some reason.
Horus and Leman Russ also started as regular human commanders rather than primarchs.

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>>54388379
Are you asking what's a good use for the Blood Reaver models in 40k? Because if so, I think your idea is solid. I've wanted to use their models too, but I don't really have a good use for them.

However I did use Tzeentch acolytes as a base for religious tribal warriors recruited to be Crusaders.

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>>54388421

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>>54388505
>being beholden to canon when changeling writes all the in universe lore

>>54388536
How large are those compared to marines ? I've been looking at those to use them as Tzeentch Cultists, but all AoS models are so grossly oversized. Even Tzaangors are taller than terminators, which is why I don't like their models and won't be getting them. Unless somebody knows a quick and easy way to make smaller copies of a sprue ...

>>54388477
Just stick with tau for now. After you have built up over half a year or so 2000 points of painted blue people you can start thinking about a new army.
Just remember to magnetize fucking everything.

>>54388577
They are pretty big. I can take a quick picture of them vs Marines vs Guardsmen. They are pretty big and buff for T3 and S3, but oh well.

>>54388596
That's a shame. Guess I'll have to keep looking around for something.

>>54388536
It's not like I'm gonna use them for AoS, and they're too nice to let them go to waste.
Even if they're just bigger marauders.

>>54388555
What exactly is the changeling?

What is the lore behind it

>>54388577
Pft manlets when will they learn? Don't let them hold you back anon

>>54387986
Got my Jap gf into 40k.
She plays ultrasmurfs.

She states that 40k is rare in Japan for three reasons.
1. People don't have friends
2. People don't have space for tables/storage
3. People don't have free time

>>54388640
Tzeentch Daemon, a special horror that can shapeshift.

>>54388255
>Nothing is ever retconned in 40k anon, everything is canon.

Nope. Read Laurie Goulding's forum post about the lore.

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>>54388640
Basically this with grimdark eyes

>>54388440
With how list building is now there is nothing stopping you from starting with a Dread Mob sort of theme and later deciding to pick up some boyz, mek guns, or whatever.

>sell models to a friend because he's broke and needed some cheep stuff and I deal in used warhammer
>He insults the painting, saying "It looks like someone painted this hellbrute with his feet"
>I painted it myself.
;_;

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>>54388656
> 4. Japs have shit taste.

>>54388139
>Thinking you can retcon the Iron Cage in a way that has it end as a Fists victory

Everyone, including YOU, knows that's bullshit. Just accept that Fists lost for once. They bounced back afterwards, but the Iron Cage was a fucking massacre for them.

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>>54388674
>Laurie "The Sisters of Silence died out in M34" Golding

>>54387861
Ahahaha. Get recked nips.

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>>54388685
So did you painted the helbrute with your feet ?

>>54388685
Get better at painting then.

>>54388673
He is not a horror. He changed his form so much that he forgot his original form and name. Only Tzeentch knows his name and he uses it as a form of control over the Changeling.

The Changeling under his robes look like mini-shifting galaxy with millions of stars and shiz.

>>54388704
Still cannon, so they came back somehow

>>54388726
>japs
> chinks

>>54388716
They were hiding on Terra, Anon. It's in Gathering Storm.

Laurie was wrong, face it.

GW lore>BL Lore

>>54388704
That was before GW decided to being them back. Also he was the lead editor of FW's and BL's HH and the guy of ensuring their canon integrity. He rubbed shoulders constantly with the IP manager Alan Merret and they plotted together the changes of the HH series. So he knows more about the canon process than most.

And he basically said it himself. GW's canon is controlled by IP/Market appeal. The very reason they brought back the SoS.

>>54388656
>race mixing

My friend just posted the new chapter tactics in our what'sapp group but cut off the imp fists and tried to say they reroll all wounds and he will be playing them.

Why do people have to cheat anon...

>>54388688
> Just accept that Fists lost for once.
to be fair whenever writers need an important chapter to get pummeled to show how serious it is this time it's the fists getting pummeled

>>54388760
>everyone online is white

>>54388744
>GW lore>BL Lore

There is no BL lore that says that they didn't exist anymore. In fact, they returned first in BL in the Beast series.

>>54387412
Guys if I paint my marines in some non codex colours like red and green helmets or something will I be able to play different chapter traits from time to time ? Like one torunemant with one trait and another with different one ?

>>54388763
Because you let them.

>>54388744
it's mentioned in dark imperium that their ordos had gotten scattered and that the few remaining ones mostly kept busy by escorting the black ships
so no they didn't hide on terra either

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>>54388772
>it's the fists getting pummeled

Wiped out, actually.

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Would a Hellforged Contemptor be enough to take out Cawl? Planning to expand my Chaos army and I want something that can fight big stuff like him. Chainfist and Butcher cannon/Multi Melta maybe?
As well, just how strong can the thing be in general? Looking at one, I think I'd only feel comfortable bringing one against stuff like Cawl or Guilliman. And that's coming from someone who's never won.

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>be dornfag
>3 chapters of your lineage are getting GW love
>1 gets ignored and the other 2 get the shittiest tactics of a bunch
Life is an Iron Cage.

>>54388775
Your post wouldn't make sense if you were Jap.

>>54388788
>non codex colours
if you are not codex adherent the codex chaos space marines is for you friend

Alright faggots, now that we know Chapter Tactics, what can we expect from Legions?

>World Eaters: +1S on charge
>Thousand Sons: +1 to psychic tests
>Iron Warriors: Reroll (1?) against Vehicles
>Death Guard: Count as in cover if enemy shoots at them from more than 18" away
>Emperor's Children: Always attack first
>Word Bearers: No one gives a shit
>Meme Legion: Units get to infiltrate
>Night Lords: Enemies get -ld and to hit in melee

>>54387412
Well i guess we should not have expected for balance to last past the first few codexes eh?

>>54388763
Some fucker at my FLGS told me that the cp rerolls couldn't be used for seize the initiative because it was "Faq'd". I didn't call him on it and I regret it.

>>54387524
Cover doesn't really exist in this edition due to it being a steaming pile.of shit.

>>54388617
I think it's okay. For me I use the fluff that they are from a low gravity planet so they are taller and bigger, but not necessarily stronger.

>>54388628
Yeah AoS has some neat models. I don't personally play it yet, but I use quite a few AoS and fantasy models. I have the Inquisitor in terminator armor that I showed up there, I have the Tzeentch acolytes as Crusaders, Witch Elves as Death Cult Assassins and Sisters of Thorne as Rough Riders.

>>54388744
>They were hiding on Terra,

No, they weren't. They were disbanded for a time with many sisters going into citizen life and becoming literal housewives bumping out babies despite the fact that no dick should be erect in their presence. There were some groups of sisters that maintained the vigil against the witch and daemon but they were disorganised and few. The Sisters of Silence became a myth in the Imperium until the High Lords decided to being them back and unite them on Terra.

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>>54388750
where they fuck do you think you are?

>>54388788
Yes you can do that. You could even run your doors as space wolves 1 game then dark angels the next or whatever. That being said
>heresy

Do characters apply the re-roll aura on themselves? or just friendly units around?

>>54388798

I don't, but it doesn't stop them trying.

I played one of my death guard playing friends and he was taking disgustingly resilient on an allied renegade knight, on his rhinos and said that his pox walkers got +1 attack for every 10 bodies in the squad (he was running them 30 strong). Called him out on that shit after I tabled him turn 4 and now everyone is suspect and demands he shows any rules he's concocted up before being allowed to roll

>>54388760
Japanese are Honorary Aryans

>>54388857
End of Wrath of Magnus.

It says they are under the Imperial Palace.

>>54388896
>Do characters apply the re-roll aura on themselves?

Yes.

>>54388656
I can get number 3 because Jap culture is strongly in favour of working your balls off, but friends? I'd imagine anyone not a NEET (who wouldn't play 40k anyway) would have at least a few friends. I'm fairly antisocial and live in Malta, we don't even have GW stores and a grand total of 2 clubs and I still have a few friends who plays.

>>54388760
Don't worry anon, we don't want kids.

>>54388750
>>54388769
Did I trigger someone? Jesus, go outside.

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So I want to make some Combat Servitors for my Admech by cyberneticing up some muscled dudes, they're going to Counts-As Electropriests. Do I use Chaos Marauders or Kairic Acolytes? Planning on giving some Kataphron claws, some Dual Chordclaws, that kind of stuff, replacing heads with Admech ones and generally going full haphazard cybernetic horde.
Are the armour plates on the Kairics easy to remove or modular? I just want bulked-up cybernetic dudes, not armoured ones.

What is with the actual racist crap going on? Like not even the satirical, ironic racism, but actual racism.

>>54388947
Hello newfriend

>>54388947
greetings, reddit

>>54388947
/pol/'s leaking again

>>54388947
Where do you think racists go to find like-minded people? If this troubles you, you should probably leave and let them to their echo chamber.

>>54388916
They were gathered there by the High Lords. We know what happened to the Sisterhood across the 10K years thanks to the Beast series and their codex.

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>>54388139
>Perty literally becomes a Daemon Primarch because of how many fists got killed
>Lmao guys he totally ran away crying

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>>54388818
Good

>>54388836
The Chaos Aligned legions, at the very least DG and TSons, won't be in the book. Also, no Alpha Legion?

>>54387412
Why is the OP missing the links to the older megas and the damage calculations? Did something happen to them?

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>>54387818
only if i can use this as a warhound or a riptide

>>54388836
>Thousand Sons: Spell familiar
>re-roll failed psychic tests

>>54387799
That only counts for infantry

>>54388872
I would make fulminators or some primaris variant of Raven Guard but raven guard one is FFS WHITE - I hate white marines - to much fuss to paint. Would you object to Fulminators using Raven Guard chapter tactics instead of Ultramarines one ?

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>>54388901
>>54388924
>>54388942
Insecure virgin detected.

>>54388947
Hey they're allowed to say what they want. It's just /pol/tard shit. Enjoy, it provides flavour and discussion.

>captcha: educating Detroit

>>54388999
>Meme legion
They're right there, not surprising that you didn't see them though

>>54387818
Can I have a name for the kit?

>>54388961
>>54388977
>>54388980
I don't know guys, I'm pretty sure it didn't get this bad through my several years of browsing /tg/.

>>54388971
For some reason /pol/ seems to be leaking much more than usual recently.

>>54389026
What the fuck is kekistan anw ?

Thread's over folks
@54389026 is here

>>54388836
>>54388836
well on the one hand , some of the chapter tactics simply break the game
on the other hand gw does like to dick CSM

>World Eaters: run and charge, special strategem that gives a unit +1 strength
>Thousand Sons: may cast the same power multiple times, but a unit can only be affected by the same power once
>Iron Warriors: do not suffer the penalty for moving with heavy weapons
special strategem : fury of the legion, a unit of infantry may fire their weapons twice
>Death Guard: disgustingly resilient, models that already have it gain a +1 to their rolls
>Emperor's Children: Always attack first (i would think this is horribly overpowered but then i look at the RG , UM and WS and think meh) a more balanced option would be always attack first after all chargers Strategem : enemies suffer a -1 to hit in close combat
>Word Bearers: +1 leadership an can still shoot after falling back with a -1 to hit for pure pottery
>Meme Legion: same as RG
>Night Lords: Enemies get -ld and must reroll successful battle shock rolls

>>54388750
All humans look the same.
Western smell like rotten milk while Asian smell like rotten curry

>>54388818
Iron cage never happen now. Thank Nu lore

>>54389050
>I'm pretty sure it didn't get this bad through my several years of browsing /tg/.
There's no need to lie. It's been this bad or worse just this month, let alone the pat couple of years

>>54388709
he's got no hands, frankly the friend should be impressed he can both play and paint.

>>54388818
Hey, I'm holding out that you'll get a sweet stratagem. Sucks that the chapter tactic is mediocre at best though.

t. Ultramarine player

>>54389087
They all serve the Emperor.
How they are shapped does not matter.

>>54389087
What the hell is wrong with Australians?!

>>54388853
I was thinking of using them as "kroot" if I ever got all the chaos shaved off, or just turning them into the aforementioned cultists to go with the deathguard.

>>54389065
Hey, you're allowed to shit on nonwhites, I'm allowed to shit on your virgin butthole.

It's the beauty of 4chan.

>>54389145
Not this shit again

>>54388836
>>Thousand Sons: +1 to psychic tests

This is actually really good. That means that they get smite on 4+ and super smite on 9+.

What that means is for them to fail to cast Smite, they have to get a 1 and then either a 1 or a 2. That means that chance to fail is 1 in 18, which is pretty bullshit,

On the other hand, instead of just getting super-smite on combination of 5s and 6s, you can add 4s and 3s is, making that roll much more likely.

To say nothing of Magnus getting +3 total, allowing him to do 2d6 Gaze on a 7+.

>>54389153
>, I'm allowed to shit on your virgin butthole

joke's on YOU, faggot, that's my fetish

>>54387470
Fix'd:
Raven Guard > Ultramarines > Iron Hands > Black Templars > Imperial Fists > White Scars > Salamaners

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>>54389172

>>54389172
Damn, got me there.
Fuckin homo subhumans always pulling a fast one on my racemixing face.

>>54389145
>who can't into basic biology
That's not true, he knew enough to say women can't be super soldiers
________________:^)_____________

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>its another "I have to shoe horn my American political narrative into literally every facet of my life" episode

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>>54389176
>White Scars
>not top 3

>>54389195
Good thing the Emperor doesn't allow feminist bullshit in his Imperium :^)

>>54389128
It wasn't retconned, IW mopped up the floor with the IF and the IF failed miserably at breaking the fortifications. Not only that but were it not for Guilleman, the IF would have been completely annihilated. However it was never Perturabos goal to completely destroy the Fists, he just wanted to prove a point and he did so flawlessly.

>>54388212
True, but those are few and far between. Psychic Shriek isn't handed out like candy anymore.

>>54388324
: 3
The established memery pleases my ego

>>54389199
>it's another yuropoors are obsessed about amerisharts

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>>54389222
t. assmad pertuabo

>>54389222
Nice headcannon.
Iron Cage was always descibed as a meatgrinder in which both Dorn and Perty would have died if not for the smurfs intervention.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ

There is no such thing as race mixing, there are no races. We're all just humans.

They just look a little different to you, that's all. You people need to stop being racist.

/tg/ - Politically Incorrect

>>54389176
Salamanders get a huge bonus to their killyness with the bonus.

It's great for a simple squad with a melta or lascannon, making them quite powerful tank killers.

>>54389264
Don't feed /pol/tards, especially with bullshti claims like that.

All you do is give them a reason to post their infographics

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>>54389254
No, the greater good will only spread.

>>54389058

DG and tsons won't be included, buy their codexes
No other legion will be getting the DG treatment soon so they'll be in the one book

>>54389285

I just want to talk about plastic toy soldiers

>>54389051
something some youtube concocted.
don't know why he was on about /pol/ and posting it, I thought /pol/ hated that shit because
1. e-celebs
2. cringe
3. libcuck bullshit

>>54389298
>No, the greater good will only spread.
...his asshole wide open in order to accept the humongous imperium dick

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>>54389222
>tfw the perturabo couldn't break the fists in the one siege that mattered

>>54389087
>European Caucasian is the most aesthetic of all skulls.
I'm so glad I have an aryan skellington living inside me.

So my Iron Hands still only get a shitty 6+ FnP?
Selling my army, Fuck GW.

@54389264
Sorry sir, the (You) supplies ran out months ago with the food. Such is life in communist egalitarian utopia.

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>>54389287
>marry woman
>have children with said woman
>stay in stable and pretty happy relationship with her
>cuck
???

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Looking for some feedback on my chapter's color scheme.

>>54389348
Why?

>>54389373
What chapter is xir from?

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>>54387495
Late reply but yeah, use their progenitors

>>54388686
I wanna pull at one of those tables

>>54388947
/tg/ ain't that bad compared to other boards, welcome

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>67% "white" American tries to talk about the dangers of race mixing

Wait, Imperial Fists just ignore cover? Isn't that a bit powerful? Or even if it isn't powerful, it is kinda unfun. Cover terrain wouldn't mean a thing to your opponent.

>>54389017
yeah, and non infantry ALSO need to be 50% obscured

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>>54389373
furry art/10

>>54389387
I got into Iron Hands because they were a vehicle army. 6+ FnP doesn't help me at all.

>>54389348
lel

>>54389391
The Space Flamingos.

>>54389306
they're still gonna get a bonus for having a whole detachment with the same <legion> keyword , no need to austicially reply to everyone making up rules that they won't be in the same book

>>54389399
It is 61% as for 2016. I've seen the data like 3 days ago.

>>54389399
>dumb phoneposter tries to call other people burgers

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>>54389373
>filename

anon you slay me

>>54389400

Only infantry, dreads and bikes get it. So its strong but its not like his predator is going to start mowing down guys in cover.

His leviathan sure as fuck will though.

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>>54389373
terrible but we all know who's the most fabulous out of all the 40k armies

>>54389399
>knowing the danger for yourself and trying to end degeneracy before committing sudoku.

>>54389400
Well if you wanna get anal about it, it doesn't affect every Imp Fist unit.

So it might still be worth it against tanks or something.

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>>54388591
>Just stick with tau for now
Yeah, I will probably try my best with blueberries. Will SC box, Optimised Pathfinder Team and Cadre Fireblade - all maxed out to reach 1000pts - be a good start or maybe I should approach to the matter other way?

>>54389396
Just when I posted that, I noticed this
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/18/choosing-the-right-chapter-tactic-for-your-successors/

>>54389176
I'd place White Scars and Black Templars aside in a Situational Rank
>If you want Bikers or Melee they rank up in good, otherwise they're pretty mediocre.

>>54387412
>Iron Hands
Never in my entire time playing Iron Hands have i ever made a 6+ fnp. Thanks GW.

>>54389458
>all the chapter tactics just got revealed then and there
GW confirmed for browsing /tg/?

>>54389415
Chapter tactics don't affect most vehicles anyway. You may get a stratagem or relic that boosts them, though.

>>54389501
How else do they get leaked?

>>54389457
>all maxed out
I'd suggest picking up a unit of stealth suits or something instead of loading up on upgrades.

But yes, SC+transport box is pretty much the best way to start any army. The only downside is there's no SMS in the devilfish kit.

>>54389507
They still couldn't have made it a 5+? When has anyone rolled a 6+ fnp?

>>54389501
Considering the leaks started in B&C its not surprising that someone at geedubs browses community sites.

>>54389457
Should do you just fine, the ethereal and fireblade boost your gunline, the pulse accelerator drone does the same, and you have suits to place on reserves to manta strike in.
If you want to go the suit way then stealth suits go well with xv8s thanks to homing beacon, and something like a hammerhead will aid you if you decided to go footsloggers instead.

>>54389401
any you can define what the boarders of terrain are.
spend a bit of time defining your terrain to have the amount of coverage you want.

So define touching the exterior of a building to be 'in' the ruin/building. Bunch of barrels defining a battlescape or rubble extends to a half inch past the barrel.

You get to define what the terrain means. Cover has been very doable for all the tables I've been using. The only time it gets hard is if you are trying to approach quickly to another unit or objective.

>>54389486
Don't dreads get it too? That'll be handy at least.

>>54389458
>blood ravens, whose entire combat doctrine is using libbys to study the enemy, create a detailed plan for every scenario which they stick to religiously, should use imperial fist chapter tactics
Some lore master she is, any good blood ravens player knows the only fluffy choice is to choose the chapter tactics that best complement a given list

>>54389458
So space sharks being of raven guard make. I guess minus to shooting melee guys helps them get in the fight right?

>>54389011
It would be so delicious if literally the most basic psyker in my army would be as good at casting as the chief librarian of the ultramarines.

Give Magnus, Ahriman and Exalted Sorcerers back their 5th, 4th and 3rd "mastery levels" and throw in some Corvidae, Pyrae, Pavoni, Raptora and Athenean psychic disciplines each with 6 powers and a full Tzeentch discipline and I will forgive all of GW's sins and buy all the models they want me to.

So of course they wouldn't do that.

>>54389458
>>54389501
>>54389522
also they added some random characters on the new images lol

Sooo, my Loyalist Thousand Sons successors, I guess I should run them as Salamanders and fluff their rerolls as prescience.

What will you be running your snowflake chapters as?

>>54389533
6+ FnPs are a thing in 8e. The Tau Stimulant Injector support system, which takes a hardpoint, only gives a 6+ FnP. Taking 1/6th less damage from all sources is still nice, just not great.

>>54389461
>white scars and black templar
>if you want bikers or melee
>IF
>white scars and black templar
If you don't want those things, why are you playing white scars or black templar.

>>54388923
It ties into no free time.
The social life there is awful.

>>54389068
It's more like a pungent cheese smell to be honest, it's not as sharp as rotten milk.

>>54388258
>couple platoons of Vostroyans for cheap
How anon how

>>54389551
Yeah and protects versus falling back

>>54389549

I thought blood ravens were supposed to use Deathskull tactics

>>54389572
GSC trucks get it to. It's relatively common.

>>54389533
all of non-vehicle Dark Eldar. Stim injectors. The warlord trait everyone takes. Eldar Spirit stone vehicles.

>>54389523
>>54389541
What about infantry? I will end up with a single unit of warriors and pathfinders. Maybe it would be a good idea to pick a box of pathfinders for more markers and drones?

>>54388989
In nu-lore he just sold his soul to Nurgle.

>>54388923
In Japan your only friends are your coworkers. And since you don't get to choose your coworkers, you'll probably wind up hating a few of them.

>>54389634
When did this happen?

>>54389058
What about, for the meme legion, something like 'first turn, cannot be shot at, charged, or have psyker powers used on them. Can't shoot, charge, or use psyker powers on the enemy in their first turn'
First turn is maneuvering only.

>>54389579
Exactly.

Which is why to rank those two with the others I find it too situational.

White Scars / Black Templars would be in low tier if you aren't running "their" playstyle.

While a 6+++ or -1 To Hit (outside of 12") is something that helps any playstyle.