Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>54383745

Raven Guard Stormravens edition

>>54383745
First for renegade heretics being the worst army in all 40k editions

When using same total number of Vanguard Vets, would it be better to go 2x units of 5 or 1x units of 10? Carrying Shield+X.

If Grey knights get the Primaris treatment expect giant Grey knight walkers. Think about it.

Carcharodons are Raven Guard right?

>>54383771
Does this mean the Knightmare will be canon?

Speaking of Carcharodons, can geen-seeds be 'mixed' while generations go down?

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Is this thing still a thing? It's a bit of a hike to the nearest GW sadly

cadian heavy weapons teams no longer avaliable through gw. new imperial guard soon?

>>54383754
Stormraven Guard

Storm Raven Guard

Stormravenguard

Whats the most obnoxious amount of usable IG i can field for 500 points ?

I'm playing Either my orks or Space Marines depending on what I guess he will field

>>54383854
>he doesn't know
a...anon...

>>54383854
Lol no

It's just the single box. The box of 3 is still available. GW is reducing product redundancy opting for the larger boxes. Like the single Carnifex is gone but the box of 2 is still around

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>>54383859
Phoneposting...
I meant Im playing against a Waacfag IG saturday, I just know he likes conscript a LOT and we have a 500 points mini tournament

>>54383850
$5 in china.
Dont know why you want a marinelet tho

2k Ynnari 7CP
Battalion Detachment
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Autarch Skyrunner, x2 avenger shuriken catapults
Yvraine
Yncarne
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x5 Corsair Skyreavers, shardcarbines
x5 Corsair Skyreavers, shardcarbines
x5 Corsair Skyreavers, shardcarbines
x5 Corsair Skyreavers, shardcarbines
_
x5 Scourges, dark lances
x5 Scourges, dark lances

Vanguard Detachment

Farseer
Skyrunner Warlock, singing spear
_
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
x6 Shadow Spectres, exarch

SS get -2 to hit with conceal, get two phases of shooting with soulburst from Corsair screen, farseer with 24" range casts fortune on a unit of 10 rerolling misses to hit on prism rifles that generate an extra attack per hit up to 3. Autarch gives rerolls of 1 to hit for the other units. Yvraine gives free soulburst in psyker phase allowing a unit of dark Lance scourges to attack again.

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>>54383893

>>54383889
>9th edition
>primaris gene used on all marines
>all marines use primaris stats
>doesn't matter what models you use anymore

Salamanders Chapter Tactic will be
>Add 1 to Wound rolls made in the shooting phase against targets within 6"

It's a boost that would be great for Flamers and Meltas but isn't actually specific to Flamers and Meltas

Screencap it.

>>54383913
Doesn't change the fact that the marinelets have incredibly odd proportions and going back to them after working with Primarines is really awkward.

>>54383876
Well, they're roughly 50 points for ten, so 100 of them. Bring lots and lots of bolters or lots and lots of ork goys

>>54383859
>>54383876
If he's being a scumbag and spams Conscripts, just spam Ork Boyz. Da Jump one squad of Sluggas in front of him, advance another big unit with Shootas. And then add some Tankbustas to deal with any tank he might bring. Season to take with Doks and shiet.

>>54383977
If he's being a retard and spams a meme he's going to lose hard. The armies you actually need to worry about are someone bringing three+ vehicles at 500 points and tabling everyone who didn't bring anti-armor

>>54383941
Just like playing a rogue trader era model along modern models would look odd but would still be considered acceptable.

>>54383772

Yes.

>>54383992
Not seeing too much of a problem with that. The only vehicles I would worry about at those sizes are Land Raiders and if you bring a Land Raider, you'll likely bring a Patrol with a bare-bones Troops and HQ choice, so yeah, the other 150 points can cower inside the Land Raider and hope you don't get screwed on objectives.

Whereas at 500 points someone can just bring three blobs of Conscripts with Commisar babysitters, sit them down on one objective each and have nothing more to worry about.

Most vehicles however simply don't have the raw firepower to table anything, just look at the poor poor Leman Russ.

>>54384004
True that.

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BASED RH

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>>54384042

THAT FEEL WHEN EVEN SoB TERRAIN GETS BETTER MODELS THAN SoBFAGS

>>54384039
Again and a again the Primari fluff is just pointless
We do not need explanation for thing getting bigger.

>>54384042
Looks like you could recreate a part of Terra with this stuff

>>54384029
Alright. Have fun :)

>>54383941

Eh, primaris have far too human proportions. They look weird next to normal marines and there's no overlap between primaris models and any of the old units beyond that Intercessors are basically Tacs.

I've only got a few deathwatch models at the moment, but if I moved into normal marines I don't think I'd buy any primaris stuff, it clashes too much with the main range.

>>54384055
what would have happened if they just released truscale without a lore transition would be autists setting fire to their armies again.

>>54384053
What?
SoB haven't got new models in decades.
Vyredian and Celestine hardly count.
One no longer has rules and the other is slot to fill for HQ in other imperial armies.

What is a 'tactic?' Is it kind of a passive skill for more narrowly-keywarded army, or an active skill used with CP?

>>54384085
>SoB haven't got new models in decades.
>that's the point

>>54384083
Nothing of value was lost also this >>54384004
Size creep is nothing new in 40k

>>54384083

Eh, most people ignore truescale autists because it's really obvious marines are to scale with most armies already.

Wanting them to tower over everyone like Custodes or Stormcasts means you don't even care about the actual lore and want to feel bigger and more important than other people.

>>54384096
But anon that is just generic gothic terrain, not SoB terrain.
Hence my confusion of your comment

>>54384093

Chapter Tactics are unique rules for marine subfactions.

>>54384083

Deathwatch and cult Chaos are already larger than old marines.

>>54383893
Boring minmax, but at least it's not space marines

>>54383893
Every thread for 3 days

>>54383754
Wait, so what would orks do against raven guard storm raven spam ?

>>54384093
It's something 40k doesn't have

>>54384107
So, Chapter-wide passive rule than?

>>54384100
That is why my not! SoB are towering Amazonian in power armour.
The bitching and moaning I got from the marine player that just got Primaris due to how big they are was delicious.

Not my original intention but, just something to have a a side project, but good god the
>buu...t Primaris a bit teller!
Make me smile more than it should.

>>54384119
Same as any other cus Chapter Tactics doesn't apply to them.

>>54383943
>ork goys

i don't think that list would be kosher

>>54384137
Yes. Other armies will get them. IE: Legion, Clan, Hive Fleet, Kabal, Regiment, etc.

>>54383745
>>54379607
>stop adding stuff
>just purity seals and some shrines for decoration
Uwhatm8

>>54384139

Fluff them as being from a world that only barely avoided being classed as abhumans.

>Okay, near as we can tell you're just really tall... But we're watching you.

Am I understanding this correctly that:

My marine in 6" of CM shooting an enemy with -1 to Hit rule; If I roll 3, it's technically a failure but I can't reroll?

>>54384186

Correct

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Thoughts?

>>54384258
Seems pretty crazy good
380ish points is a lot though.

>>54384258
Bit too expensive IMO, in terms of both pts and $.

>>54384258
Needs more Ork

>>54384258
It's cool, but given how much it costs on points you may get more out of the Marauder Destroyer even at BS4+.

>>54384283
It's a lot of points, but it's pumping out what, 36 shots a turn with it's various guns? And given it can fly, it can't be tied up in melee, either.

>>54384258
P2W FW bullshit.

>>54384258
>roll a dice
>a
>dice

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>>54384307
>t. sand sphinctered poorfag

>>54384317
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/dice

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>>54384317

One singular dice, yes. A dice is what he will roll. He'll roll one dice. Anon's dice. For rolling.

>>54384317
Hello, you seem to be new. Yes, both GW and FW have been using that expression for years. If you open any contemporary dictionary, you will find that this expression is perfectly acceptable these days.

>>54384258
>>54384278
>>54384283
>>54384299
>>54384303

>418 pts
36" Heavy 10 6 -2 2
36" Heavy 24 5 -1 1
72" Heavy 4 8 -3 3

>54384330
(You)

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The state of /40kg/

>>54384334
>dice is the plural of die

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/die
>die
>NOUN
>singular form of dice

>>54384317
> he should die
> she should die
> you should die
> roll a die

SM: July 29th
CSM+GK: August 19th
DG: September 23rd

>>54384340
>contemporary dictionary,

Contemporary dictionaries are a disgrace and actively detrimental to language and culture by normalizing misuse in the name of "descriptivism".

Linguistic descriptivism is the left's soft power method of normalizing cultural erosion and ignorance as desirable - which suits its agenda of supplanting cultures with external sources.

>>54384354
Getting back into 40k after a long hiatus, but honestly the toxicity of these generals is kinda putting me off again

>>54384357
>muh Burgercuck English is the real English
>y-you fuckin limeys have no idea how the language you invented works

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X MEN!

ROLL A DIE!

>>54384258

It's pretty much a thunderhawk more effective vs medium/heavy infantry but without the transport capacity

It's good

>>54384369
what cultures would they be anon?

>>54384370
> the toxicity of these generals is kinda putting me off again
keep out of the generals, just join in on the wip threads.

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>>54384357
Linguistic prescriptivism is literally the worst

>>54384354
this level of annihilation is a thing of beauty

>>54384369

>Waaaaaaa languages aren't allowed to change

God people are retards about this. The only thing that matters about language is if it's communicating your point.

>>54384369
I don't even know what kind of retard standpoint you are pushing. Speak to any Professor of English Linguistics and they'll tell you that a dictionary should always record language the way it is currently spoken and written.

That is not to say the language as it once was should be forgotten, though. I think people who translate Shakespeare into Contemporary English deserve to be bludeoned to death, for example.

>>54383902
16 dark lance shots from one unit of scourge using yvraine, suffice to say the mecharius won't live
>>54384115
Except it hasn't been every thread it hasn't even been every day and I'm trying different timezones

>>54384388
yeah man, that cheetah poster was so autistic it hurts

>>54384354

I still don't get what happened here that was worth screencapping.

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>>54383932
Sure thing bro.

>>54384042
>doesn't block LOS at ground level
Useless.

>>54384343
So 6.66 hits, 16 hits and 2.66 hits respectively.

For an extra 42 points, a Marauder Destroyer gets you:
>+4 wounds
>6 S6 AP-1 D1 hits
>6 S7 AP -1 D2 hits
>3 S5 AP -1 D1 hits
>4 S8 AP-2 D(2D6 pick highest) hits
>12-cap bombing run.

So less good against light infantry due to less Heavy Boltering and AP, but superior AT capabilities, tougher and can drop a pile of Mortals on something annoying. Probably comparable, at the very least.

>>54384400
I'm not sure either. Reddit-tier unboxing? Eldars BTFOd? Shitposting? Autism?

>>54384053
>>54384042

>Based RH

no. I'm french and I'm actually ashamed of that shit being french.
Also, literraly none of those building make sense in an actual city, thats what happen when you design wargaming pieces instead of actual ruins on 28mm scale

>>54384392

>people who translate Shakespeare into Contemporary English deserve to be bludeoned to death, for example.

Whoever made that Leo DiCaprio Romeo and Juliet adaptation set in modern times and -didn't- translate it to contemporary English deserves to be bludgeoned to death.

See the Lion King for recontextualised Shakespeare done right.

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>>54384258

>>54384422
You mean Disney's Hamlet in the bush?

>>54384354
>The secret of autism eldarfags don't want you to know

>>54384378
English and American.

Consider how "literally" now holds a precisely antonymic definition. It is normal, now, for a word to mean its opposite - as if truth or precision of expression no longer matter. This suits a politics of untruth - that criminals are victims, that those who have not and will never work are more valuable citizens deserving of wealth than those who work, and so on.

Doublethink. The ability to believe two opposing theses. Can you see how we slide toward it if we let words lose their meaning?

>>54384354
>look mom! i posted it again!

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>>54384414

Nothing worth screncapping, just an autistic anon trying to force a meme

>>54384400
An Eldar player getting fucking REKT

>>54384330
Not him and not a poorfag, but unless we're actual friends playing a friendly / narrative game, you can go fuck yourself with your FW rules ttoo

>>54384414
The anon who describes all races aside from Space Marines as NPCs took it upon himself to shitpost another anon getting unusually excited about having bought a book most people here have already seen the pdf of, then he screencapped his "decisive victory". And then he has been posting said screencap for threads on end and now other people are using the same screencap to show what a caustic shithole this general has become, as if any proof was needed.

>>54384448

Rekt implies that some amusing comments were made at his expense, not just some half-hearted negativity.

>>54384436
Words change their meaning all the time, it's not the same as doublethink.

Besides, we're moving towards a Brave New World, not Big Brother.

>>54384454
King autist was probably the guy that posted the content of OP's pic literraly 50 times straight yesterday

>>54384453
>I-i-i swear im not a filthy poorfag, im just a giant faggot

K
E
K

>>54384422
Yes, recontextualization is great, and not just for Shakespeare. I'm talking about the books where you have Shakespeare's text on one side and a "translation" into modern English on the other side, for drooling retards who cannot get into a language richer than your typical WhatsApp message.

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>>54384385
Enjoy it.

>>54384454
Ah so now we are in the state in which we don't even know if the screencap is being posted by the npc side or the sm side.

>>54384471
enjoy your nogames

Fantasy player here.
What is the equivalent of the Wood Elves in 40k ?
By this, I mean an army who emphasis on speed and special snowflake, Rambo-like, character (like shapeshifter).

Space clown ?

>>54384466
What do you mean reposted the content of OP's pic? that "fucking idiot" thing?

>>54384474
I actually would, send me a copy pls.

You get that that book is satire, right?

>>54384483

Eldar by what i remember of Wood elves

Harlequins going by your description

>>54384464
A group that seeks to call ideologies that challenge its preconceptions "fake news" and peddles myth and pseudoscience is trying to tell you words mean their opposite.

Literally means Figuratively
Warlike killers are Peaceful

Wait a minute...

WAR is PEACE?

That REALLY activates my almonds...

>>54384483
Harlequins

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So if you like fliers(mechanical) but don't want to play marinemarineimperiumimperiummarine you've got what options,

DEldar?

>>54384400
wew what a community
But seriously, this unboxing fad needs to end. It's not like forgeworld puts this much attention into providing fancy boxes for their stuff

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>>54384354
KEK MYSIDES!
NPC FAGGOTS BTFO!

>>54384484
There was a guy that posted like 60+ comment that were just :

Fucking Idiot

>>54384506
That pic is perfect for a "delet this"

>>54384497

IG for non-marine imperium
DE for xenos

>>54383893

So is this like a new meme or something?

>>54384436
>now
dude, you're like two hundred years late on that one

>>54384497
>Every single race can spam decent flyer except Deldar
>he post Deldar as an example

Kek

>>54384408
Not SM tho.
But yeah, looking at it now and seems pretty neat, might bring with the allies but might seem a bit unfluffy

>>54384466
Eh, that was the same autist who always finds something else to copy-paste spam. One thread he spent telling everyone to "Go back to 1d4ddit", presumably after having been told that once, then one thread he spent telling everyone to "Read the fucking rules" presumably after getting that reply for asking a retarded question and last thread was the "Fucking Idiot" thing, although I do kind of understand the last one.
I mean, a bunch of idiots getting all excited about theorycrafting a gamebreak where the article that teased the rule already said it doesn't work the way they thought it did, truly deserved to be spammed with "Fucking Idiot".

>54384471
(You)

My buddy fields a FLYRANT and it DESOLATED my infinite grots, how many multimeltas should I field to kill it?

>>54384354
God that was some top tier shitposting. And all those autists taking the bait...

>>54384531
Your comment looks like a poor Ad for penis pills

>>54384523

>Have two of the pest cheap flyers in the game
>Not able to spam flyers

>>54384471
>im just a giant faggot

Says the one relying on broken rules to win

>>54384436
To be fair, even if this complicated edifice of conspiracy isn't outright bullshit, ignoring facts in favour of feelings is at the very least bi-partisan. There's a lot of "crime is risky, people feel unsafe, etcetera" when in fact the numbers say the opposite from the Right during all the asssorted elections, and pseudoscience is again a tool for whoever wants to try and use it and should be attacked wherever found. There's plenty from idiots on both sides of things again, not even counting the fact that languages have changed and people screech about it since at least Ancient Greece. The same complaints of societal degeneracy, too, and yet it's fairly obvious humanity is far stronger and probably more moral than back then.

>>54384369
oh yah right I forgot about those "external sources" and their "agenda" guess I better keep my language "pure" then wouldn't want "one drop" of the external "influence" would we?

>>54384540
>all those
It was literally just >>54384506 this guy samefagging.

>>54384544
Keyword here is <DECENT>

>>54384549

Cause there are no broken rules in GW's indexes

>>54384506
>Takes a picture of himself to show off how he associates to show his pride
>Masks his identity to hide his shame
Literally a pointless photo.
Needs better lighting, a plain White back drop and camera put down on a surface to steady the picture. Thin your body. Colours do not compliment.

>>54384527
Yeah, I'm probably going to make a Mechanicus one because I want me some air support. It's sexy as hell, and would make a nice change from literally everyone running a Knight or Guilliman or both as their centerpieces.

How's the storm eagle this edition? I want some flying transport but, i think the storm even looks like ass.

>>54384558
You know, quotation marks on fucking any expression always just remind me of poorly done Japanese-to-English translations. You're not sounding """"clever""" doing that, you just seem like a retarded weeb.

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>>54384583
>""""clever"""

>4 marks on the left
>3 on the right

>>54384560
Mate I think >>54384506 was just posted for satier

How the FUCK am I supposed to counter Magnus, besides trying to shoot him off table before he chews through half of my army?

>>54384544
Why not take hemlock and spam SMITE ?

>>54384601
satire*

>>54384570
This picture is reposted retard

>>54384602
kill him

>>54384563
You just keep on spamming your Leviathan Dreads with their Anti-Everything cannon and then in a few weeks you can come back and whine how even seasoned cheesemongers won't play you despite their lists being "just as broken"

>>54384602

Met him only once, exploded him turn 1 with 450pt of SoB

Did not even get to act.

>>54384616

>Meanwhile, 5 stormravens win tournaments.

Anyone got the recently released trilogy of Eisenhorn audiobooks and wanna hook us all up? $150.00 for us aussies, GW must be on some good crack.

>>54384570
it is a satirical post, poking fun at the Gentleman who continuously re-posts the collage and his replies to it along the lines of

>kek
>top kek
>all my kek
>my sides

>>54384602
Spam hordes. Mortal Wounds are good because they go through 2+/3++ like butter. If he has to waste his mortal wounds killing Ork Boyz he won't be making his points back anytime soon. Also remember that Smite must always target the closest enemy units, so throw roadblocks in his path.

Man CSM codex is taking a long fucking time to release. The worst part is that it's already out so there won't be any changes in it based on anything we discover between then and now.

Loyalists can fuck off, I don't care about your shit coming out this month.

>>54383772
i thought they where unknown founding, suggested world eaters.

or am i mixing them up with some other chapter

>>54384645
Loyalists this month, DG next month I'd wager, and they have a lot of shit coming out for them. CSM and GK also coming out this year, and I'd expect plenty to change between the stopgap (index book) and the full CSM codex, otherwise people wouldn't buy it.

>>54384658
Yeah based on the shit in the loyalist codex I'm sure we'll see plenty of cool stuff in our codex too. Just mad about the take forever and there's nothing to do but bitch.

>>54384634
But they're not FW so people are less likely to complain.
It doesn't matter if there is GW stuff that is better than FW stuff, the FW stuff always has a stigma to it. If said FW stuff also happens to be good, then the stigma is even worse.
Personally I wouldn't mind my opponent fielding FW, but I think tournament-fags can all go die in a fire, so I guess I'm not the correct measuring stick here.

Can I move a unit with FLY straight up into the air?

>>54384658
They said CSM and GK are coming out before DG though...
I assume the new DG models will be released with the CSM codex and the DG codex will just give them some more specialized rules and maybe another wave of releases, but that might all be wishlisting.

>>54384497
Orks

>>54384686
Sure, but you've got to put the model down at some point

>>54384686
If you find a way to place it onto thin air, sure.

>>54384704
>>54384711
So a model must end a turn on the table? Wobbly Model Syndrome only applies to climbing ruins or whatever?

>>54384453
Nothing from fw comes close to brimstones and razorwing flocks and flyer spam in terms of brokenness, it's not 5th edition any more, fw is objecticely not more unbalanced than standard gw

>>54384489
Yes. Just like using plural for singular. But some jokes tend to go too far.

>>54384641
What do you mean he reposts his replies?

>>54384616
Top kek if you think your leviathan can even touch my 700 brimstones

>>54384168
With the fanfiction tire lore of Dark Imperium and I can simply Mery Sue things so hard it would not matter.

Right now my lore is either Magos is butthurt the Cannones beat him in a game of tarot. So the salty sore loser gives SoB bulkier armour.
Resulting in inquisition visit due to rumors about "men at arms"
Or they simply are an Inquisitor battle harem.

>>54384734
>freeze peach
>goobergrape
>drumpf
>braise gek
I love how you people are so terrified of the truth that you won't even refer to truth-centric movements or principals by name

>>54384563
"It's already broken so why don't you allow me to shit it up even more huuur ? XD"
kys

>>54383770
Split, 2 5s mean 2 sergeants so thats a bonus attack right there and not to mention lower odds for battle shock to mess with you

>>54384729
>Just like using plural for singular
Ironically, I'm not sure if you know what the word satire means

>But some jokes tend to go too far.
Agreed, time to leave this and get back to talking about toy soldiers

>>54384721
I mean, if you can convince your opponent then sure I guess. Good luck with that though.

>>54384723
With the exception of the Grav-Flux Bombard. I'll stand by that. It's almost the only thing that scales with unit size *without* an upwards limit and yet it also scales with the survivability of whatever you're shooting. It's the perfect anti-everything cannon and no army in no game should have a perfect anti-everything cannon.

>>54384756

>My broken stuff is totally ok, yours is not

>Nyahh Nyahh Nyahh

>>54384771
Sure, sure, anything that'll make you feel better sweetie. :^)

>>54384721
You're gonna look pretty stupid holding your flyer in the air for 20+ minutes but I won't stop you. Just don't dare moving it while reaching for dice or models when you shoot and charge after the movement phase though

>>54384755
>the truth
The truth is that the alt-right is a fucking disgrace for everyone and you don't need to be a lefty to understand it. No self-respecting rightist would even associate with such a retarded movement of neckbeards fighting for stuff they don't even care about that was put in their heads by /pol/ and The_Donald.

>>54384464
You have not read either of those novels.

>>54384788
Sure, sure, anything that'll make you feel better sweetie. :^)

>>54384785
fag

>>54384766
>I mean, if you can convince your opponent then sure I guess.

I'd give him a roll-off

1-3 he cannot do it
4-6 i punch him in the face

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>>54384755
inorite

>>54384800
>>54384785
Lmao look at how desperate the alt-retard already is

>>54384813
Sure, sure, anything that'll make you feel better sweetie. :^)

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How did Cawl solve the Thousand Sons geneseed/flesh change problem? Was their even a problem with their geneseed or was Tzeentch just fucking with them?

This general used to be about plastic army men.

>>54384766
>Ironically, I'm not sure if you know what the word satire means

It's about eating the poor, right?

>>54384784

>My broken stuff is totally ok, yours is not
You're the one who wants to bring something extra to the table, not me, again, kys

Salamanders up!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/17/chapter-focus-salamanders-july18gw-homepage-post-1/

>>54384743
Go ahead, I'll fucking wait. A box of 10 Blue and 10 Brimstone Horrors is 35 burgerbucks. So, for 700 Brimstones, you'd need to pay 2450 burgerbucks. And don't think you can cheat via Ebay, because all the tournamentfags will want them, so they'll be next to impossible to get any cheaper.
And for those 2450 bucks you'll get 1400 points, so you'll still have 600 more points to fill with other units.

Go the fuck ahead, I'll wait here until you've bought them all.

>>54384558
Language is the backbone of culture and its erasure by colonizing powers is the quickest way to suppress a people. See Gaelic, see indiginous languages, see the USSR exporting Russian.

If a language dies, a culture dies.

>>54384832
nice try faggot

>>54384768
I'll agree that it's a bit too powerful, but that's just one unit with one specific layout, and it's still really expensive

>>54384832

After plastic SoB, maybe.

>>54384841

>what are recasters?

>>54384841
Did you not see Nick Nanavati's cereal pieces glued to bases as brimstones? It's tzeentch, god of change, I'll just use cut up sprue pieces and say "lol chaos, my man". Sprues are even GW pieces so I can do it at my GW store.

>>54384771
>Project Chanology
you mean when people took a stand against elrond husband's xeno worshippers?

>>54384817
Aaand we've triggered the copy-paste retard again. How've you been mate? Always wanted to ask, do you ctrl+v or do you actually type your autism out everytime?

Any webstore with better prices than triplehelix (eu based)?

>>54384822
Bad writing!
Ain't gotta explain shit!

>>54384880
I wonder if we're being graced with the presence of the DAfaggot chink again?

>>54384822
>Was their even a problem with their geneseed or was Tzeentch just fucking with them?
Both. There was the Fleshchange, but it got much worse after Tzeentch got involved.

How Cawl solved it, I have no idea, but it's apparently stable for now. Maybe Cawl is just a better bioengineer than the best the Imperium had to offer back then.

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What the fuck was the point behind primaris lieutenants? I am just going to remove the helm off this dudes hip, put a more fitting one on his head then put an iron halo on him and bam a new Primaris Captain™ that looks alright

>>54384847
>If a language dies, a culture dies
I'm half from a people whose language has been erased but we still have a strong folklore (by european standards)

>>54384832
Chapter Tactics look good

HOL UP YOU MEAN WE WUZ CHAPTER MASTERS: Once per battle, all <SALAMANDERS> gain the CHARACTER type

shame about the vulnerability to tasers, but at least admech dragoons might be used now

>>54384873
>Why won't anybody play against me?!

>>54384918
40 keks

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>>54384602
You know what to do

>>54384880
Sure, sure, anything that'll make you feel better sweetie. :^)

>>54384908
To be fair the Emperor made Primarchs, Custodes, Thunder Warriors and Space marines, in a cave with a box of scraps.
In less time than Cawl added turbo autism to marines.

On a side note did they ever said if the obvious Xeno tech is actually Xeno tech with imperium seal of approval? (Is not like the AdMech haven't done it before)

>>54384914

I thought captains rerolled 1s to hit and lieutenants rerolled 1s to wound, no?
The idea is to combo them together l.

>>54384908
he may not be better, he's just had the advantage of working on it for 10000 years.

also where's this stuff about him fixing thousand sons geneseed from?

>>54384521
Nobody else posts their armies so I guess list building is a meme nowadays

>>54384908
>but it got much worse after Tzeentch got involved.
What do you mean? There were only 1000 left by the time Magnus was found so it seemed pretty bad by that point. And that was with the Emperor right there so I doubt it was Tzeentch.

>Maybe Cawl is just a better bioengineer than the best the Imperium had to offer back then.
Doubt.jpg

>>54384914
Because Captains make you reroll Hit rolls of 1. Lieutenants make you reroll Wound rolls of 1.

Also, keep the helmet on his hip, scratch it up and paint it in a different colour scheme. That way you can claim it's a trophy and you don't have to explain why there's a giant ragged scratch over his leg because you can't cut that off neatly.

Also, Lieutenants were a thing back in the day and GW simply brought back an old concept, they're not some Nu-GW invention.

>>54384917
Wendish?

>>54384947
I'm an Idiot and didn't even realize that, guess I'll stick the sword dude with my new captain as a personal bodyguard or something.

>>54384965
wot?
GK got a bunch of new plastics not to long ago and its pretty easy to do them 100% plastic.

>>54384917
South America here. Our culture was not only stolen, burned and raped, but also converted.
Some how there still some nice cultural things sprinkle all over the place.
Rather cool mix of old native things with Christian stuff.

The basically pull an Imperium, said there is a proper God, but your gods are actually just helpers or saints and that is pretty cool too.

>>54384965
>Only problem is that their models are outdated as FUCK
Well, now that primaris are out, yes, but they had fairly recent plastic models, no ?

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Ork question; The Tellyporta Blasta says you need to roll over the enemies' wound characteristics to immediately kill them.
The word that boggles me is the word characteristics as I'm not certain if it refers to their printed max-wounds or their current wounds.

Anyone here have any opinions on this? Feel free to berate me for being an ork.

NOVA and IVO rumored to restrict flyers to 0-3

>>54384973
>Wendish?
Walloon, got replaced by french

>>54384930
If you concede that's a victory to me. I don't like playing fluff players anyways. "oh I flunked my rolls, but because my ultramarines are awesome in the fluff we'll just say that 2/3 of them hit, right? Don't be waac!"

>>54384948
There was a blurb about Cawl having made Primaris Marines out of *every* Primarch's Geneseed, including the Traitor Primarch's and all of those were described as being stable. So TS were not explicitly mentioned, but they were clearly included. Maybe some kind anon can even post the image.

>>54384992
neat. inb4 200 birds shitting over all the tables though

>>54384995
Thats not a fluff player, that there is a hidden waacfag

>>54384989
It's in the FAQ, read it.

>>54384965
>gay nights
>outdated
Oh boiiiii! When your stuff has more than decade let alone two, and that is not just. SoB thing only. Even bloody Eldar the waacfag army that constantly buys shit, has models from 2 decades ago. Looking at you warp spiders.

>>54384973
>Also, Lieutenants were a thing back in the day and GW simply brought back an old concept

Buy why no non-primaris Liutenent then?

I'm kinda mad that if i want wound rerolls in my non-primaris armies i have to include a chadmarine just because.

>>54385022
Fair complaint desu

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How are Lightning/Avenger/Thunderbolt fighters performing, this edition ?

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*Blacks your path*

What did you do?

>>54384992
Tourney fags playtested the game? I think not
Already houserules

>>54385022
It is almost like GW wants you to buy your marine army again.
Did you notice Primaris can't ride marine vehicles?
Wonder why? Oh is that a new tank? It can transport Primaris!

The cash grab is so blunt that I'm disgusted by the consumer not bitching at GW for this shit. Not sure if it is anti-consumer but it is rather asshole.

It reminded me of the Carnifex incident.

>>54384914
replace his helmet on the hip with his head and put the helmet in place of head

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>>54385037
So when will the fully phase out cuckmarines?

>>54385037
Presumably ordered in the bloody tarmac, that road's been fucked for a year and the shire's been taking too long to get their heads out of their asses.

I thank the Salamanders for their assistance, and offer them a stay in the best hotel in the hive. They deserve the comfort we can provide.

>Primaris topic
Finally! I am pretty new and was wondering at what point level would it be acceptable to bring an ADL? My primaris wont have proper transports for some time so I'd like to be able to give them some cover at least and the thing comes with an AA gun so it seems legit. Is ADL a good choice for my situation or should I just make my boys take the shoelace express and hope for the best?

>>54384992

>new list: 3 sormraven 2 landraiders

Or just 3 LoW flyers

>>54385063
You try hard as fuck in every single thread. Keep trying :^)

>>54385063
>It reminded me of the Carnifex incident
What was it ?
>>54385068
I don't get the joke here

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>>54385044
what does it mean?

>>54385031
Look at the A-10 (Avenger) and compared to the Apache (Vulture)
They do basically the same job, but the Vulture is way better at it.

>>54384985
>>54384965

Latest update is 2011... I don't think we'll see another update this year or the next tbqh

>>54384989
The characteristic refers to the maximum number of wounds. If it were to take the current number into account, it would state it.

>>54384995
> "oh I flunked my rolls, but because my ultramarines are awesome in the fluff we'll just say that 2/3 of them hit, right? Don't be waac!"
Fifty bucks on "Things That Never Happened".

>If you concede that's a victory to me.
It would, if not for the fact that this sort of proxying wouldn't be allowed at tournaments and if you get disqualified before the first game, you aren't winning a single game.
And outside of tournaments, well, congrats, you win every game you ever play because nobody plays you, congrats, have the "I'm a fucking lonely loser and proud of it" badge
>inb4 hurr ad hominem

>>54385064
top kek, thats perfect

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This thing is complete arse.
It needs to be fed 1CP reroll when it fires.
There's a possibility that it may end up never firing in a game.
Should I rebuild mine as a Manticore?

>>54385068
hi Ivan

>>54385068
>So when will the fully phase out cuckmarines?

Never

9th edition will reveal chadmarines were a chaos plot all along

All marine player will either have to buy more primarines to shore up their chaos list or more oldmaines to have a playable loyalist side.

Starter box: ultramarines VS chaos primaries ultramarines.

>>54384992
That would be retarded. All they'd have to do is set a cap on maximum number of detachments.

>>54385024
Play a normal Marine, count him as Primaris Lieutenant until GW feels arsed to release rules for normal Lieautenants. Just like how I play Intercessors with Power Weapons as Honour Guard until they feel arsed to give me Primaris Honour Guard.

>>54385085
Nerfed the fuck out of Carnifex to the point of unsusable just to sell the replacement model.

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>>54385013
I did.
>It's not. Hence the question.
Screencaps to prove me wrong would be lovely though.

>>54385089
Okay.

What about Lightning and Thunderbolt. Loaded with Hellstrike missiles, do they make good vehicle hunter ?

>>54385125
READ THE ENTIRE THING YOU FUCKING MORON

IF YOU CANNOT READ A RULEBOOK GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOBBY YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>>54385119
>set a cap on maximum number of detachments

5 flyers is 1 detachment

>>54385068
just a (you) because I got the joke

>>54385107
>>54384424

>>54385140
>And still you fail to point out anything relevant.
>Your IQ is showing.

>>54385085
>What was it ?
The Carnifex used to be 85 points plus wargear and was allowed to buy himself a 2+ save. Then a new codex was released, the Carnifex was now 150 points with base wargear and could no longer buy that 2+ save. This gutted the Carnifex so much that Tyranid players were forced to buy the newly released (and much more expensive) Trygon.

>captcha showing me streetsigns from the city I live in
>it fucking knows

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Legion rules better give Iron Warriors their Basilisks back officially, that way I don't have to be a faggot and pull out FW rules...

>>54385158
Not really, those IQ are so badly implemented that is retarded.
Want to test the IQ from let's say English speaking country, give them an IQ test from the 90's in Italian.
Why? The fuck if I know IQ test are so worthless today because they lack modern standardization and we are still using test made for decades ago.

>>54385107
It's just a victim of "playtesting" or the lack thereof

Doing 5 mortal wounds on average is pretty fucking awful, even if you don't account for needing a 6 to fire on turn 2. If the missile had +2 BS then maybe, as it would get more initial hits, but in truth it should just be 5d6 hits with d6 on all surrounding units

>>54385144
Yep. And then you'd have nothing else. Lots of Flyers have a minimum move, so they can't ever hold objectives. So by bringing that detachment, you auto-concede the game to your opponent. Seems alright to me.

>>54385176
You'll take your obliterator rerolls and you'll like it.

Does anyone have a link to the Dark Vengeance 8th edition booklet PDF? I never got a chance to grab a physical copy.

>>54385107
>a fucking supernuke hits on a 6+

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>>54383745
When are they releasing the customizable Primaris Marine squads?

Also in early interviews regarding the new marines, some GW person stated Chaos would be following suit and advancing their tech, any idea what that implies? Chaos Primaris Marines or some equivalent?

Or are they revamping the tech that we do have and adding more randomization to it?

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>>54385201
I like you

>>54385165
>1970
Using test that old, no wonder that happen.

>>54385176
As IW player I'd just play loyalists and have done. The only thing you really lose are Obliterators (which are shit now) and the Daemon Prince.
These new Aggressors make for fantastic models for the idea of "using Possessed to power big guns" as well.

>>54384392
>I think people who translate Shakespeare into Contemporary English deserve to be bludeoned to death, for example.
As long as they preserve every dick joke and pun, I'm okay with it.
Like, half the lines would be "And also I got a huuuge dick. Just so we're clear."

>>54385237
First two non-snapfit squads (rievers and aggressors) are up for preorder this saturday, but we don't know how customisable they'll actually be. Rievers might be alright, aggressors I suspect may be pretty monopose.

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>>54385180
>>54385140

>>54385237
>Chaos Primaris Marines or some equivalent?
Well, the new Plague Marines are precisely the size of the new Primaris Marines, but a bit bulkier. I suppose that's what they meant: Our Marines get bigger without any contrived plot reason.

>>54384370
Yeah, they're pretty bad. Just try to remember that you'll never have to play against most of the retards here, and even if you did they wouldn't act like this in real life.

>see Rieverbox
>all that monopose
Why is GW intent on killing off the hobbyist? Didn't they learn from the last time they tried to buttfuck the core players and modellers in favour of new players?

>>54385180
Yeah. Too bad adults require proof for in order to believe what is stated on the internet.

I know interacting with others is hard, but you're doing a piss-poor job even if you might try your hardest. I'm sorry for you and your parents. Must be hard when their offspring is both delusional and autistic.
>You nigger.

>>54385282
>read it for me mommy or I'll start crying

>>54385201
What is this in reference to?

>>54384436
Look at any decent dictionary and they all hold that the alternate usage is using it figuratively as an intensifier, not using it to mean figuratively. Some explain this better than others.

>>54385286
You have no idea how those test are apply do you?

If anything IQ test only serve to show high end and low end of the spectrum at best. Anything between 80 and 120 is basically worthless information

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>too much of a Jew to buy pic related when I found one on eBay for $40
>it was in metal even
>GW will never ever have it back in stock
end me life fellow warbosses

Anyone have a picture of the reivers stats/costs? also someone said something about them getting deep strike for an extra cost?

>>54385338
>fellow warbosses
>does not convert his boyz

Fake ork player!

>>54385297
Yeah repeat yourself. That'll show me.
You're still wrong though. The FAQ doesn't mention my question in the slightest.
But I guess it was wrong on my account to assume you had the reading comprehension above that of a 5 year old, my bad.

Good luck out there, I hope you parents don't kick you out anytime soon.

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>>54385344
It's 18 points a dude.

>>54385355
I love conversions but this model is just perfect, with his cybork arm and kustom shoota, and I am autistic enough that I will not field a waaagh banner until I can make a decent shoota for him

>>54385357
I like this meme.

>>54385306
Iron cage

>>54385357
BRB, paying Felix Baumgartner to deliver my jump pack marines directly from low orbit to the FLGS.

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>>54385357
>gametard is mad that he can't win a single game

>>54385338
Link to ebay page?

>>54385127
Anybody ?

>>54385410
>Africa
>worth something
Why do you keep bringing that up.
We are talking about western nations, not the retards.
Are you too stupid to notice that?

Silly burger

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>>54383943
>Ork goys

>>54385413
It wasn't the exact model in my pic, I just remember there was a listing for $40 plus shipping for that model in metal, and I thought I could be a jude and get it cheaper

>>54384993
Eyy waloon diaspora in Sweden here

Did missiles lose one-use only restriction in 8th or am I missing something?

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>iron warriors originally founded in Auro Plateau of Sek-Armek

Where is this in old Terra? I heard from someone that it was actually the North American plains

>>54385459

Some did, some did not.

>>54385338
chinaman hook u up

>>54385363
>read the whole thing for me mommy or I'll keep crying

Jesus fucking Christ, I thought the repulsor was like rhino/predator sized but its as big as a land raider. I hope the transport capacity is 10+

>>54385521
Just you wait so you get the Primaris LandRaider...
this is merely a Chad Razorback, the transport cap will be 5 or 6

>>54385521
Primaris love ride
Buy your marines again!
Super fun

Would a Space Marine Company Commander hold on to his Deathwatch Veteran shoulder pad or would he ditch it for Chapter Heraldry/Crux Terminatus upon taking command?

Or does it matter?

>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/17/draigo-returns-grey-knights-revealed-july18gw-homepage-post-2/
IT'S HAPPENING!!!

>>54385560
I fucking hope so.
My two chinese porphyrion wont be alone then

>>54385564
Is making these fucking stupid meme links the new summerfag hobby or something? Why don't you instead paint some of your fucking miniatures

>>54385564
>i cant even be bothered to change the date
0/10 apply yourself

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/18/chapter-focus-white-scars-july18gw-homepage-post-2/

>ooh some more movement
What a useless tactic.

>>54385521
Do we have size comparison pic somewhere? Somehow I missed it

>>54385229
In close combat. Essentially, when the crew try to run people over with its treads.

>>54385564
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/17/4chan-faggot-literraly-cannot-stop-sucking-dick-july18gw-homepage-post-5/
IT'S HAPPENING!!!

>>54385565
Just because you like anime figures, means it is a good idea for a miniature game.

Look at Inqusitor. Good game, but it was stupid to have huge as balls "miniatures" to play it

>>54385579
>Surely ppl will click haha I've only dome it 40 times a day for 5 days like a clockwork autist haha

>>54385574
>new
No it's been around for years, but used to be mostly contained to /v/ and /vg/.

>>54385579
>Bikes still useless
Move on, nothing to see here

>>54385564
>>54385579
Can this be reported? Can they get banned for this? It's just fucking tiresome

>>54385614
IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO

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>>54385564
>>54385579
>>54385586
>>54385609
>90 seconds between each post

>>54385364
More lelith posting. I demand it.

>>54385614
>>54385627
Mods don't give a fuck about the site in general, much less /tg/ which has always been an afterthought board.

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>>54385624
LOL get fucked frogposter

>>54385642
so you posted none? neat

>>54385647
>being autistic AND retarded

Pottery

>>54385637
While I got ban for checking some triple dubs. The fuck is up with that

>>54385642
>Apple phone
>3G signal, meaning he's outside in public
Christ

>>54385614
well I mean other than for trolling or shit posting I don't think there's specific rules against it. I'd rather not set the precedent because it can occasionally be funny.... when used in moderation.... like it isn't being right now

>>54385637
>>54385671
rule 8 guys

>>54385674
It being a ban worthy thing is what KEEPS it in moderation and funny. As it is it is just fucking annoying

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So I was going through some neat Chapter colour schemes to repaint some old marines I found laying about in and ran across the Disciples of Caliban, which in turn brought me to this question

When running a Dark Angels successor, do they normally run the Dark Angels rulesets or the generic Space Marine ones? I understand the Blood Angels successors would normally run their rules because of the Thirst, but I didn't know if there were really many changes the Dark Angels would have ruleswise aside from the Deathwing and Ravenwing.

>>54385673
Not all of us are NEETs anon. Some of us have jobs to shitpost from.

>>54385716
This. I shitpost all day while at work

>>54385685
> ask about rule to make sure you dont violate a rule by false reporting
> DAT IS AGAINST DA RULES
You are fucking retarded

>>54385716
>Being on 4chan in public
>Being on 4chan at work

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Hey friends! I'd like to start a new army and I've been considering some TSons since they released. I love the aesthetic a lot (I like birds a lot, I like their lore, I love how they're basically animated armor). My questions are

-Is Magnus a must-have on the tabletop? I'm not a huge fan of the model and I'm not ready for the investment
-What are some units that are worth taking for the army? What's a very general, basic list gonna look like (no need to actually construct a list, don't wanna waste your time, but I'd like to know the general army structure)?
-Are they really that difficult to paint? I think I'm a pretty decent painter (definitely still improving) but people talk about them like they're impossible to paint and it's very intimidating. I don't want to fuck up.

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>>54385745
>he still has a sense of shame

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>>54385633

>>54385745
Not like normies know what 4chan is anyway

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>>54385745
> not being on 4chan in public
> not being on 4chan at work

>>54385745
>not shitposting during my 3 mandatory union shitter breaks

>>54385716
>>54385735
I'm not a NEET either. I don't know why you'd default to that accusation when you get called out. Maybe you're full of shit? Hmm. In any case I'm not socially retarded enough to browse 4chan at my place of work, or anywhere in public for that matter.
>>54385747
Magnus is retarded amounts of rape, anon. They aren't impossible to paint. You should spray them gold as Duncan did, not blue. If you paint them blue then add the gold later, that's when they become a huge bitch to paint.

Real chapter focus when?
Codex leak when?

>>54385769
>not taking 4 20 minute shitter breaks throughout the day
Gotta love my boss for not giving a single fuck about it.

>>54385747
look for thousand sons here yto seen what a list looks like.

http://bloodofkittens.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ETC-2017-Complete-Team-Lists.pdf

>>54385716
Whoever is a NEET to play hobby, he must be a tremendous wealthy NEET.
But let be honest, if I fucking rich i'd be a NEET too.