Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1616: Marvel Comics Edition

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>>54361444

...Explain

>>54361418
>is it a make your own item option?
Yes.

>What kind of effects could we see from it?

Up to you. But something like summon a storm is valid.
Ironically, +15% speed bonus is not. Since is mostly powered by flavor text

>>54361582
If you brought in items from other game worlds would their flavor text slowly start to become real as well?

>>54361566
>Capeshit
Ugh, no. We're overdosed on that shit right now.

Do we have anything that allows fusing or tying Super-Modes and shit to a single trigger? e.g. tying Bankai and Blood Devastation to a word.

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>>54361604

Yes, to an extent

>>54361604
>other game worlds
...Like what? In which worlds based on games can you get weapons that aren't already as they are in lore?

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Jumpers, what do you value?

>>54361474
Please be gentle
https://pastebin.com/8W99bdcs

>>54361642
Pizza.

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What Jumpchain Supplements do you use /JC?

I've been looking over the Light of Terra jump and have been having trouble finding it's exact size
All I can find is that it is supposed to be large even by 40k standards
Does anyone have a more concrete number

>>54361582
You might want to make a note about just how important "flavor text" is to how the setting's changed from Elder Tales.

So that people know that a demonically possessed axe that devours things and hates you is a colossally bad idea.

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>>54361608

>>54361627
Any of the MMO jumps and some of the higher end non-MMO vidya jumps. To my knowledge WoW is going to be the only one that flat out says it's lore and not game mechanics that it's copying.

>>54361626
Awesome

>>54361647
16 to 36km, specific size is up to you.

Worth noting that the size range of canon Glorianas is from 12km (Sanguinus') to 32km (Angron's.)

>>54361647
Gloriana-class battleships, of which the LoT is one, are between 16-km and 32-km.

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>>54361643
Nice

>>54361658
>So that people know that a demonically possessed axe that devours things and hates you is a colossally bad idea.

I think jumper is wise enough to know that.

>>54361678
Your later number is wrong and your former is wrong from a canon perspective.

>>54361674
Not him, but that doesn't make any sense. You should assume lore unless stated otherwise. Game mechanics are often just highly-limited abstractions of a given world. Most of the time they're not an actual thing in-setting.

>>54361689
Gonna need to back that accusation up broham.

>>54361688
>I think jumper is wise enough to know that.
You would think so, but I'm not so sure about some of those Jumpers.
My point was that it should be noted that "flavor text" is more important in LH than the game stats were in Elder Tales.

>>54361626
That seems extremely ill advised given other settings may have very very different limits.

>>54361688
>I think jumper is wise enough to know that.

Bruh.

have you seen even half these mofos.

>>54361676
>>54361678
32km it is then
Thanks

>>54361364
>Alright, what about this?
Server was fine if other jumps counted as a server. city narrows it down a lot. Server implied wider are coverage. does the servers cover the whole world? If so, make it world wide.

>No public places.
You just made it so the perk based on teleporting back to cathedrals cannot teleport to any cathedrals anymore unless you buy one now. Good Job!

>Cathedral/Guilds Center (600)
This is just bad. you are charging 600 CP for small properties that don't seem to do anything in later jumps.
The Cathederal and 1-Up stuff needs to be combined. The Guilds Center needs to do something in later jumps, which don't have a guilds system.

>>54361704
I was actually wrong too.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Tear

Sanguinus' Gloriana is only 10km.

>>54361702
In Log Horizon it's a Big Discovery that lore starts to become true. Not just on items, but on critters and how they act, invade, and so on.

This is made worse by some of the lore on items adventurers collect, but also affects People of the Land... To turn someone into a mass murderer, for example.

What cool stuff can the 2nd true magic be used for?

>>54361758
Combining your power with the power of several of your alternate universe counterparts so as to create a magic beam capable of killing a Type.

>>54361786
That might blow out your magic circuits though

>>54361727

Alright, at this point you are cherry-picking my comments.
No public places means no appearing in middle of the road, not no appearing in the cathedral.
Server was a country, basically. I'm not changing it from city to world wide. Thar would cost way more than 100.
I already told you I'm not combining it.

>>54361718
In LH lore slowly becomes true, In other settings lore IS already true and reality.

>>54361722
>mofos

Some of them are kind of cute.

>>54361801
Get soul regen.

>>54361688
So if we go in as veterans does that mean we start at 90?

>>54361827
>No public places means no appearing in middle of the road, not no appearing in the cathedral.
Could we select a given City and end up somewhere in said city? I'm asking because I am the anon who gets stuck in the warehouse and I am still looking for more ways of escaping whenever that happens.

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>>54361843

Yes.

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>>54361642
Sleep.

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>>54361860

You appear in the Cathedral of said city or in one of your properties if you have one.

>>54361642
Got one of those for Void?

>>54361864
If we take the perk that makes us a lvl 100 raid boss as a non NPC origin does that mean we found an exploit that let us level up to the new cap before the cataclysm and have a really BS build?

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>>54361900

No, but you got the stats of a level 100 and the really BS build

>>54361860
>I am still looking for more ways of escaping whenever that happens.
Check out the Shack from Kairos. Also, PPC has something as a Warehouse Attachment. Something about "Plot Holes".

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>>54361894
Course I do. got one for all of em'.

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>>54361642
Friendship above all else.

>>54361900
>>54361924
Is that the Precursor perk?

>>54361941
Infernals has a perk that lets you go from anywhere to anywhere... It only takes five days of walking through a desert.

Do Orcs, Orks, and similar of their kind all have the same North-England accent?

>>54361958
No, Lord of the Dungeon.

>>54361973
Well, there is that one Australian guy.

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So we talked about how great a waifu Hinata is last thread but what about Tayuya or Anko?

>>54361642
Not sure. But there are certainly things I value more than friendship.

>>54362003
Who?

>>54362003
They've got like two major scenes each and neither appears in more then one big fight.

>>54361973
Cockney accents and shit are tied to lower-classes, and Orks / Orcs are basically as low-class as possible.

Also, Warcraft Orcs are angry Americans.

>>54362003
>Tayuya
Dead

>Anko
Gets fat.

Do we have any abilities or items that can control portals, especially those made by others?
I need to disrupt a gate.

>>54362056
There's some portal thing in Spyro (not the Legend one the other one) that lets you hijack portals with study.

>>54362003
No, and no.

However there is a very cute fish-girl from one of the filler arcs.

>>54362067
post pics

>>54362067
Who was that one with the absurd skill in seals?

>>54362067
Why is it that some of the best waifus are from filler?
Or are Tenten, who's a 10/10.

>>54361924
The Plan.

Be a summoner with Overskill and Scribe to ditch the mook nerfs/limits.
Take Lord of the Dungeon to buff my mooks and mook buffs.
Let loose 12 raid heavily buffed bosses in the middle of Plant Hwyaden's city.

Laugh incessantly at the havoc this causes before running away, rinse and repeat as needed.

>>54362056
One of the Fire Emblem jumps has an ability to force portals closed, I believe.

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>>54362052
>Warcraft Orcs are angry Americans.
I'm going to get memed on, but angry Shamanistic savages with a warrior culture who are also alien invaders and demon worshipers aren't even remotely close to Americans.

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>>54362075
Here she is pre-transformation.

>>54362102
Accent-wise, they're angry americans.

So in Stellaris to import an empire does it have to be a space faring one or would they be boosted up to such if you ruled over a entire planet but not gotten to space exploration yet?

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>>54362075
and post-transformation.

Is one of those that really needs a hug, due to being a survivor of Orochimaru's experiments.

>>54362108
Decently cute. Does she go all zora or is it monstrous?

>>54362118
>>54362108
Oh, she's still decently cute. So does she go all edgelord like Sasuke or what?

>>54362130
Nope! She's relatively stable, just in desperate need of a hug due to being rejected by the fishing village.

Are there any good jumps for politics?

>>54362139
I wonder if Kisame would want to adopt her.

How do you handle your crossovers jumpers?

>>54362130
Nah, she's just a nice girl being led on with the false promise of a cure for her monstrousness. She kinda has to fight at some points since the guy promising that leverages it all the time. She'd really rather like to not be like the village outcast/freak and just have a pleasant life.

>>54362080
Fuck, there've been a few. I... want to say Amaru?

She was a red-head, I remember that much.

>>54362150

west wing

>>54362150
West Wing

>>54362161
Nah, she had blue hair, I'm pretty sure. Like, she split a lake with them, I remember that much.

Are there any good jumps?

>>54362174
She loves only Pain

>>54361642
My adorable, hungry girlfriend mostly.

How does Coil's power from Worm work exactly?

>>54361827
>Server was a country, basically. I'm not changing it from city to world wide.
So say a nation wide region, it's not that hard.

What makes the cathedral worth 600 CP if it doesn't work as a 1-up? In other jumps I mean. Having control on one in this jump sounds like one of those background things if you are a royal landian or something.

I'm saying you are not conveying how those are 600 CP properties. A cathedral that could respawn people once per jump sounds like 600 CP. A cathedral that is just a fancy building that looks like a place of worship sounds more like 200 CP to take to other jumps, not 600 CP

>>54362174
Oh, Kanon. Yeah she's only got eyes for Pein.

This talk of filler characters makes me want to play a Jumper who only takes filler characters as companions.

>>54361924
Food Fighter (the one that lets you taste non chef food like it is actual food) would be a Title subclass since it is earned by completing a challenge right?

>>54362192
I think you're placing way too much weight on inter jump balance here mate.

In the Log Horizon jump, what does buying the Cathedral Guild Center get you post-jump?

>>54362067
Does anyone have a list of all the intreasting Movie/Filler stuff that Naruto has?

I mean I remember someone talking about Time Travel, Not-Chakra rocks, a bunch of filler weapons from a filler village that were epic to hear about, and more.

>>54361582
So, what exactly are "skills"? Can they be learned or modified? Is there a per-day limit, or do they run on stamina? Can you at least mention them somewhere in the jump?

>>54362191
It's either quantum timeline splitting bullshit as he seems to think...

Or the WoG is that it's actually a simulation/precog that only lets him perceive the less desirable simulation in real-time with the actual path he took.

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>>54362181
No

>>54362191
Coils shard is constantly running a simulation of the world as is (might turn off out of use). When he uses it, that simulation diverges according to the changes he makes. That is to say, the only differences are what ripple out from him. On use it predicts his current actions, and the divergent 'timeline' at the same time, up until he would decide which set of actions he wants to do. It then autopilots him through his chosen course of action, while the other prediction is fed into his head at the same time. From his perspective he lives two timelines simultaneously. The 'reality' is he gets fed a vision of a prediction in 'real time'.

Why yes, that is needlessly complicated. Thank you for noticing.

>>54362191
You know how in VNs, you'll hit a point where you can make a binary decision? Coil's power is to make both choices and decide which he was the real outcome retroactively.

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>>54362192
>>54362221

Alright, just stop this shit.
I will buff the fucking thing to satisfy your inter jump balance.
But I will put that shit later. For now it will stay like it is right now. Alright ?

>>54362213
Yes.

>>54362283
>So, what exactly are "skills"?

Skills are abilities or "moves" you see in videogames. Some run on mana, other in stamina, all have different cooldowns, cast time and so.

>>54362191
On activation his power basically simulates two different "realities", predicts which one he would choose, then automatically moves his body through the one he chooses while feeding him information on the other one as well until he chooses which one to keep.

>>54362320
Not those anons, and I think the LH jump is largely solid, but wanting to know what the Cathedral does post-jump is a legit question.

>>54362284
>>54362308
>>54362322
Is there a functional difference between how it actually works and Timesplitting? Why invent such a roundabout explanation for this kind of power and not just let him do the thing his power emulates doing AKA Timesplitting?

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>>54362339

Is another of your properties. And you can respawn there if you have the 1-up.
Outside that nothing much.
The guild thingy is better since comes as both a bank, a source of free rooms and a seemingly endless storage space.

>>54362350
Because Wildbow realised that if it worked like that, the reason for the entire plot (The entities lacking energy production or something) makes no sense because Coil is creating entire timelines/universes every time he uses his power.

>>54362350
>>54362372

Author wrote himself into a corner and WoGd his way out basically.

>>54362363
>Wanting to fuck Kiyohime

Enjoy getting your dick burned off

>>54362350
Worm has this thing about how much energy things use up. Precognition takes a fair amount. It would be a hell of a lot more if you could create and destroy entire universes on a whim.

It's important, because burning energy reduces the lifespan of the Entities or their shards.

Coil's power is from the corpse garden of the dead Entity, and thus has a much more limited power supply.

>>54362372
>>54362376
The Entities already have a bunch of ways to apparently violate conservation of matter and energy though.

>>54362385
>not being fireproof

Jesus how new are you?

>>54362385
What kinda Jumper can't even handle his yandere waifus?

>>54362350
Because from the actual Shard's point of view this is a simple set-up that performs the end result without expending tons of energy.

Legit splitting universes is beyond what we've seen of the Entity's capabilities.

It's like saying that your car's engine is needlessly complex and why doesn't it just skip all the complex fiddly bits and just push the car forward.

Coil's just the guy with the keys, how it looks like it works from his perspective doesn't accurately reflect the actual mechanics behind the power.

>>54362350
Yes. He gets hilariously fucked by power blockers or powerful enough counter-precog, because at a 'split' he simulates two realities, then upon one being discarded he BLINDLY FOLLOWS THE PRE-PROGRAMMED INSTRUCTIONS.

If you can't figure out how to use an out of context power that his power won't accurately simulate, then you don't deserve to beat him.

>>54362363
You should be explaining that either in the jump or when someone asks, not this >>54362320

>>54362363
You need to spell that out then. I've seen parts of the show, so I know what features those buildings have, but permissions, storage and the like aren't explained at all in the in jump text. I honestly don't give a shit about the power one way or another; I'm not jumping it for real estate, but you need to write the doc so that someone unfamiliar with the series knows what they're getting

>>54362350
>Is there a functional difference between how it actually works and Timesplitting? Why invent such a roundabout explanation for this kind of power and not just let him do the thing his power emulates doing AKA Timesplitting?
Because calculative/physics engine precog is something we already know powers can do from many other precogs like Contessa, Dinah, Number man, etc, so it why give entities time splitting powers?

>>54362418
Doesn't Coil's power circumvent precog blockers anyway though?

>>54362410
Yeah plot holes are kind a problem with this stuff.

Just nuke BB, it's better off a cratter anyway

>>54362410
>apparently violate
This is the key part of your statement.
They do a lot of multidimensional shenanigans. They do them casually, because they're multidimensional themselves.

From the perspective of a 2d person, we can do similar tricks, simply by changing the dimensions that they can't sense.

>>54362410
Wildbro would just say they don't even though literally everything they do horribly rapes the laws of physics.

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>>54362468
Just because her title is Mooncancer doesnt mean she is cancer.... probably

>>54362215
You are misunderstanding inter jump balance here anon. Saying this this should cost so and so because it could be used with this perk from another jump is inter jump balance, and a bad idea. Making sure 600 CP stuff is actually worth 600 CP is just 'balance'

>>54362385
>Lying to your waifu
Scum.

>>54362410
Most of that comes from them just syphoning ludicrous amounts of energy/matter from other dimensions that the power's users aren't aware of.

Of course, that raises the question of how good their multidimensional biology really is.

>>54362322
Is Coil's Shard the Simulation Shard?

>>54362496
She's based on Sakura though, who IS cancer.

>>54362508
Except your basing all your arguments on how good it is in other jumps and saying that things need to be just as good in other jumps as they are in their own jumps, which is laughable at best.

>>54362529
No, she's worms

>>54362538
Worm cancer.

>>54362535
Yes anon, things which cost more than half your starting budget for a jump should do something outside of it. It's not inter jump balance to say that an item or perk shouldn't do literally nothing in jumps other than where you buy it.

So if Arcane magic in WoW cab basically do all the stuff Arcane magic in D&D can, is the same true for Druid magic in WoW?

>>54362003

Personally I made an OC companion who looks and acts like Hinata rather than get in the way of the original and Naruto.

It'd be hilariously easy with charisma perks and the fact that Naruto doesn't pay attention to her at all until after the war ends, but it just seems wrong y'know?

Naruto's an idiot but he isn't a bad husband as far as we know.

For non-Hinata waifus from Naruto? ... I admit to having a soft spot for Sakura. It's hilarious how much she chases a guy who doesn't give even half a shit about her, but it's also sad.

>>54362524
Probably.

>>54362563
Well, WoW Druids never get to Wildshape into Elementals, so technically no.

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>>54362529
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>She's based on Sakura though, who IS cancer.
No that's the guy who looked at Zouken's work and then applied it to fucking bacteria.

>>54362572
Well, technically there are the Druids of the Flame. Even if that's just Elemental-inspired.

>>54362563
>So if Arcane magic in WoW cab basically do all the stuff Arcane magic in D&D can
I get what you're asking but you should be careful here: arcane is a school in WoW and it isn't in D&D

>>54362561
Then keep to saying that because you've said plenty of other things that are silly in your attempts to convince Ricrod. Compare it to the other items instead of repeating your arguments over and over.

>>54362575
You're not changing his mind, anon. This guy's ranted before - it doesn't matter if 90% of Sakura's issues stem from painful circumstance out of her control. Victim-blaming at it's finest.

>>54362590
First off, not the guy you're arguing with, new poster. Second, stop being a vindictive asshole, I can't legitimately see any reason behind your post other than that you want to get the last word in. You don't have a point, you don't have a valid argument, so fuck off.

>>54362350
Because Wildbow is a hack

>>54362535
But he's not. If he really wanted to do that, he could have easily brought up the large number of free castles in various jumps, including the one that comes with a massive boatload of abilities and free companion slots if you're willing to do the jump for it.

>>54362677
>including the one that comes with a massive boatload of abilities and free companion slots if you're willing to do the jump for it.

Explain.

>>54362575
Who applied his work to bacteria now? That sounds horrifying.

>>54362597
Piss off, straw farmer.

>>54362703
The only thing that comes to mind for that is in Dies Irae but that's not out yet.

>>54362677
>free companion slots

Who the fuck would allow that in?

>>54362535
>saying that things need to be just as good in other jumps as they are in their own jumps, which is laughable at best
No. It is basic Jumpchain. Not everything has to be CP. If the benifit is in the jump only, that is background stuff. If a 200 CP property is charged 600 CP for the in jump benefit (like de fact control of city), that means something is wrong in the pricing. Because a premium noble/royal origin, where you are paying extra for in jump power, is a 100 CP surcharge at most if you are being fair.

The problem is here.
>>54362363
>Is another of your properties. And you can respawn there if you have the 1-up.
>Outside that nothing much.
>The guild thingy is better since comes as both a bank, a source of free rooms and a seemingly endless storage space
The guild thingy sounds like it might be 600 CP, but then he made the Cathedral the same 600 CP, even though is just a regular building by his own admission. If the cathederal functions (people being able to teleport to it once a day, respawning function, including once a jump 1-up for jumper) you are not buying the cathedral functions, just a building. So you should be charged just for a building.

New jumpmakers make mistakes, and this is one. Having a 600 CP guild building and also having a 400 cp guild headquarters (with discount available) also strikes me as a problem, because it seems redundant, and the jumpmaker isn't really bothering to tell you the difference, or why you need both in the jump.

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Alright. Explained better while buffing Guilds Center and deleted cathedral

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>>54362709
This little one's http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Tsubaki_Kuruoka parents

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Jump # 168 Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest Gauntlet
Drawbacks:
*Pixelated (+50)
*Cheesy Dialogue (+50)
*Can you spare 2 GP for a cup of Coffee? (+ 50)
*Extra Encounter (+ 50)
*Deeper Battlefield (+100)
*Stoic Monsters (+ 100)
*More Battlefields (+ 200)
*The Video Game Atlas was wrong (+ 200)
*Artificial Semi-Intelligence (+ 400)
*Status Effect Lure (+ 400)
Perks:
*Basic Moveset (0)
*Trauma Inn (0)
*Mysterious Dungeon Janitor (0)
*Inventory (0)
*Bit of Safety (150)
*No Ceilings (400)
*Strength of Fire (200)
*Resilience of Earth (200)
*Sword Expertise (200)
*Swiftness of Wind (200)
Equipment
*Steel Sword (0)
*Excalibur (100)
*Steel Armor (0)
*Cupid Locket (150)


(I have no clue what I am doing)

I was once again stripped of my powers but honestly I don’t think it’s as bad as it could have been. There was an advantage to training myself up to being useful over my first few jumps where I was less than awesome.

It was a journey through many lands to defeat the 4 vile evils as we went we fought through armies of monsters in each land. Finally after we defeated the 4th we were told there was a main bad guy behind some prophecy and we had to go beat him.

We went to Doom Castle (Kind of glad Doom-chan wasn’t there, she doesn’t like it when other people use doom to name stuff she feels only she has that right) anyways we confronted the guy managed to defeat him and the old man revealed himself to be the orb of light in human form… because why not?

By the end I was tired and missing my companions. I wished everyone well but sensed my time was drawing to an end.

>>54362741
Post-jump, can I still use the game UI to manage the Guilds Center?

>>54362703
FF12, the jump that people claim is an invalid jump.

>>54362572
Okay, but other than that?

>>54362585
Okay, I meant does Druidic match up in the same way Mage=Wizard magic?

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>>54362733
>Having a 600 CP guild building and also having a 400 cp guild headquarters (with discount available) also strikes me as a problem, because it seems redundant, and the jumpmaker isn't really bothering to tell you the difference, or why you need both in the jump.

the 400cp one gives you a building for your guild, like the Log Horizon guild has.
the 600 is the Guilds Center, is a massive place with lots of storage room, a bank and some kind of apartments that are rented to guilds without a proper building

Something else?

>>54362779
Sure.

>>54362797
>does Druidic match up in the same way Mage=Wizard magic?
Yes for shapeshifting, kinda for healing, no for elemental

>>54362767
Magi sure are worthless human beings.

>>54362486
To be fair, "Laws of Physics" are just things as we think they work through observation and theories. Stuff we do casually now would rape the laws of physics as understood millenia ago.

>>54362820
Okay, so no Elemental stuff at all? They can't control fire or wind or trees or anything?

>>54362853
On that part, he's kinda wrong. WoW Druids can manipulate plantlife to a degree, can control weather effects and manipulate small-scale elements like lightning, sunlight, and moonlight. However, they aren't BIG into Elemental Control - that'd be Shaman's forte.

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>>54362767
Wow that's pretty fucked up, not as bad as Zouken, but her parents are definitely not getting any world's best parent mugs anytime soon.

>>54362837
>Magi sure are worthless human beings.
Well, yes. Now, please lie down on the table. I want to know how your powers interact with this artificial circuit I've been developing.
Try not to scream too loudly, it makes it hard to concentrate on taking notes.

So, would one of those "canon railroading" perks keep things fine and dandy in NieR: Automata? I've heard there are a shit-ton of endings (I have no idea how "canon" each of them are), and I'm trying to decide when I can be reasonably sure the world won't explode... again. And how much I would need to interfere to keep everything intact.

>>54362964
Uh, the Canon path isn't really great for everyone. Only the final two endings could be counted as the canon ending so be careful.

>>54362741
>deleted cathedral
What what the problem with just throwing it in with the 1-up perk called named cathedral? So you had both the building and it's effect. No pre existing political power in this jump, just a warehouse attachment companions could respawn at (since they already respawn for free), and where jumper would spawn at with the 1-up.

What other functions does the cathederal have?
The teleportation is a skill you learn in setting it seems, the ability to forbid entrance is standard force wall stuff, what else does it have?

>>54362741
Are Precursors better than Level 100s, or are they roughly equal?

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>>54363055
>No pre existing political power in this jump, just a warehouse attachment companions could respawn at (since they already respawn for free), and where jumper would spawn at with the 1-up.

It's not a pre existing power. Whoever controls the cathedral also controls the adventurers from that city. Because is possible to ban them from resurrecting. Is a HUGE plot point in the series.

>What other functions does the cathedral have?

Look, you had problems with the cathedral. I get it, it's difficult to balance something that will give so much power inside the jump and so little outside.

Now is no more. I'm not changing that again, shut up.

>>54363084

Roughly equal, if anything Precursor is more useful since Landers look up to you.

>>54362741
Are there any rules for what happens if a unique CP-purchased item is lost or destroyed? Other relevant rules for items?

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>>54363117
>Are there any rules for what happens if a unique CP-purchased item is lost or destroyed?

You find it in your warehouse within a day.

>Other relevant rules for items?

I don't think so, but I'm forgetful

>>54363113
>Precursor is more useful since Landers look up to you.
Is that really the difference between a capstone and lower-tier perk? A moderate respect boost that only applies in the jump it's purchased in? Actually, now that I look at it, Lord of the Dungeon seems like it's worth a bit more than the other things at its level.

>>54363132
Please mention that either in the notes or beginning of the item section, as it's not necessarily standard (though it's often assumed).

>>54363117
>>54363132
CP-Purchased Items don't necessarily have any special rules across the chain as a whole. While many Jumps include recovery options for such things, it's important to remember that it's basically a transcended home rule that's commonly used by most everyone instead of a concrete factual thing. Not everything you buy with CP has insurance basically.

I'm having a hard time writing what my jumper does because it's been a while since I saw Nanoha and I'm fishing for ideas.
What would a self-styled wizard jumper with little morality and only a few jumps under his belt do in the Lyrical Nanoha setting to gain a huge amount of power fast and with as little effort as possible? The wizard will also be willing to put in lots of effort as long as the reward is equally large.

>>54362741
Does any equipment retain modifications?

>>54362964
Canon railroading would probably keep canon on track, but if you are looking for world unexplosion, you either want to take the scenario, or patch the backdoor in the bunker that allows the Logic virus to get through. In cannon, all of the YoRHa (save for three, possibly) are dead by the end kf the game.

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[Gonzo Journalism]

Drawbacks: We Can't Stop Here, Reefer Madness, Presidential Nemesis (1600)

Mr. Duke

I Can Write! (Free)
One of God's Own Prototypes (Free)
No Sympathy For The Devil (1500)
The Final Sin is Stupidity (1200)
Worth Knowing (1100)
A Revolver and a Knife (Free)
White Rabbit Radio (900)
A Beat-Up Typewriter (700)
Bootleg Rum Still and Ingredients (600)
Journalism is a Gun (0)

What /are/ all of the fearmongering drug claims, anyway? They can't be any weirder than MKULTRA. Which doesn't even give you psychic powers. When I get in on the secret government drug experiment market, the least I can do is provide actual psychic powers (which, incidentally, fix the drug problem). Also a low key memetic to prevent the hippy movement from ever taking off. I'll tame the bats that keep following me to use as tiny, flying smugglers to my more discerning customers.

It's still pretty hard to be a seedy journalist when you own a few nations, corporations and people in high office. The other gonzo journalists just see this trust fund kid sneaking out of his penthouse suite and ditching his mink coat to go scribble in an alley somewhere.

Also wait so-the President is eventually going to come kill me? As in, by himself? Because I left my presidential power armour back in the America that Michael Wilson believes in.

It's weird how quickly the Cold War grinds to a halt, once supernaturally informative papers circulate most of America.

Also, I'm going to print stories ahead of schedule! Starting with the winning lottery numbers, followed by Martin Luther King's assassination-and an interview with Neil Armstrong on the moon! The irony is the gonzo part only kicks in when certain readers figure out what's going on, and take pains to change their fate.

Shame Watergate takes place so late.The American psychic reformed hobo society and it's secret bat network's probably going to have butterfly'd it away.

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>>54363144
>Is that really the difference between a capstone and lower-tier perk?

Some more things, but everything in Travelers perk tree is better than their counterparts.

>>54363179
>>54363160
Alright

>>54363189

Sure, I don't see why not.

>>54363185
>What would a self-styled wizard jumper with little morality and only a few jumps under his belt do in the Lyrical Nanoha setting to gain a huge amount of power fast and with as little effort as possible?

Eat children, absorb their linker cores into his body and become super magically powerful, other than that I have no idea, Train for it?

>>54362003
Meh.
Konan, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow

Or Karin, who deserves better than Sasuke.

>>54362741
What is a "set" as it relates to equipment? Is it just a "tier" of items, or does purchasing a "set" actually give you more than one? If the latter, how many? Enough to fill out your "slots"? Because each of the "set" descriptions reference single items, but are listed under "sets". It's especially confusing because you specifically can buy a Phantasmal Class Item, not a set. But, again, each of the sets seem to reference a single item, so it initially seems like a meaningless distinction.

>>54363113
>It's not a pre existing power.
I am saying YOU are the one worried about all the power a cathedral gives you in the jump.

I just wanted the cathedral 1-up to let you respawn at a cathederal warehouse attachment, that would have NONE of whatever in setting issues you are so worried about. Like banning adventurers from using it, since they don't use it anyway.

>Look, you had problems with the cathedral. I get it, it's difficult to balance something that will give so much power inside the jump and so little outside.
I had no problems with the cathederal, except the price. I just wanted the perk you based on the in setting system to be similar to the in system one, where it is an item you respawn it instead of a perk.

I realize at this point that you don't really care about making it about the setting, the perk was just another power grab to you. I'd still like my cathedral.

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Previous Jump: >>54355704
Before going to the next jump, me and Coop realised that the Megazord XLR combination was too unefficient. So, we used his Hybridization Theory perks to fuse Dragonzord and Megas permanently. The end result was pretty much a humanoid Dragonzord with oversized arms and legs. Also, we decided that its old name was far too long (plus, it's a semi-sentient being now) and so we renamed it to Burai.
But now, on to the jump! Gundam Fight, begin!

Jump 4: Gundam- Future Century
Starting CP: 1000
Country: Neo Germany
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Drawback: - Followed by Death (1100)
- Old Master (1300)
- Country Rivalry x3 (Rivals are always fun) (1900)
Identity: - Gundam Fighter (1800)
Perks: - Country's Finest
- YES I DO HAVE TO YELL THE NAME (1600)
- Hand calm, mind serene (1300)
- It's all in the mind (900)
Companions: - The Help (Coop)
Items: - Absurd, Recognisable Costume (Modelled after a dragon)
- Memento ( A group picture of the Power Rangers taken after we defeadted the Alliance of Evil for good)
Mobile Fighter: - Importing Burai (I'm passing him off as "Fafnir Gundam") (850)
Customization: - Core Lander
- Mobile Trace System
- Head Vulcans
- Beam Sabre
- Powered Melee Weapon ( A gun/sword hybrid modeled after my energy weapon from the Power Rangers jump) (700)
- DG Cell Infusion (400)
- Emotion Energy System (0)

In this jump, me and Coop (we're passing of his zoid as a mobile support unit) join Domon in his quest against the Devil Gundam and mainly enjoys the adventure while driving off the horde of the Death Army, meeting the challenges of our rivals and mourning my master, a wise ninja master by the name of Kluger Meister. After that, we take part in the following Gundam Fights and mainly enjoy our time here.

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Working on my Fallout 4 build - does the Mechanist make a good assistant for my team's resident mad scientist?

>>54363132
>You find it in your warehouse within a day.
Might want to put that in the jump.

>>54363357
>I realize at this point that you don't really care about making it about the setting, the perk was just another power grab to you
Okay dude. Whatever argument you may have had, you cannot be so salty as to seriously say this when your entire argument has been about how pricing things to fit the setting rather then the chain is wrong.

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>>54363185
Maybe infiltrate Belka to try swiping their Book of Darkness? Or join the TSAB since they're looking for it too, and use that as a pretense to get dibs.

That, and getting befriended by Nanoha.

>>54361758
Playing around with the observer effect? Making magical girl transformation wands, or bags of holding that distort time and space? Tap into the elemental mana plane? Cut swallows (and dragons, apparently) really quickly?

>>54361786
>>54361801
>>54361830
Also, the Tohsakas eventually reverse engineered a blade to do smaller versions of that attack safely; Zelretch's own was apparently made from alien technology. And Rin's is still powerful enough to obliterate familiars powered by a Servant-eating entity with a Counter Guardian's worth of prana, and effectively endless regeneration.

>>54361642
Well, according to the Void one spirals apparently.

>>54363389
Probably not, unless you want someone (Relatively) sane to keep the mad scientist in check.

She's good with robots but not much else.

Unless your forming an inter dimensional superhero team, in which case go for it.

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>>54363336
>What is a "set" as it relates to equipment?
Group of items from the same tier.

>purchasing a "set" actually give you more than one? If the latter, how many? Enough to fill out your "slots"?
Yes, 9 of them, for the 9 slots of the character.

The only different is the Phantasmal Class item, that only give you one. It's in notes at the end.

>>54363357

You know what? Fine, you win. I wanted to shit all over the setting, that's why I made the jump and I'm not ignoring a plot point of the series. I'm not giving you the Cathedral because I'm a cunt and totally not because it would unbalanced.
Happy now?

>>54363431
>Group of items from the same tier.
>Yes, 9 of them, for the 9 slots of the character.
This would be good to be put in the jump. You say how PI works, but nowhere do you explain what a set is or how many you gain. In fact, all of this:

>>54363113
(precursors)
>>54363132
>>54363230
(items)

...would be good things to include somewhere in the document. And sorry if it feels like I'm nitpicking or whatever, but that's not my intent. Just want to clear some things up.

>>54361646
BodyMod, Warehouse, Alt-Chain Builder.

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>>54363518

No prob. I will include those thing in notes.

The perks are written to be as balance as possible. There are some differences still.

>>54362741
Okay, another thing. Do you choose which items you receive, do they "match your needs", or are they randomized?

>>54361801
Would it be okay to use if you've also done the Third Magic ritual?

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>>54363541

They're supposed to match your build, but feel free to choose them.

>>54361646
All of them why?

>>54363431
Saaaaaaaalty.

>>54363431
You're inexperienced as a jumpmaker, but you should still know better than to let yourself get affected by individual feedback.

>>54363425
>Okay dude. Whatever argument you may have had, you cannot be so salty as to seriously say this when your entire argument has been about how pricing things to fit the setting rather then the chain is wrong.
He took an in setting resurrection feature, took away all the trappings of it, and made it into a bland, generic 'you can some back once per jump, lol.'

Saying "Hey, this should be a cathedral that you can respawn at once per jump" gets you brushed off.

He just wanted a 1-up without all those pesky fiddly bits, when those were the reason offering a 1-up in the jump made sense at all.

>>54363431
>I'm not giving you the Cathedral because I'm a cunt and totally not because it would unbalanced.
how would a cathedral in the warehouse be unbalanced anon? You would be able to stop adventurers from coming back to life if they died in your warehouse pocket dimension. Big freaking whoop.
>Happy now?
Not really.

>>54363431
Speaking as a Jumpmaker who got shitposted into making changes I later regretted...

Stick to your guns, Ricrod. Shit all over shitposting anon.

>>54363556
Again, all stuff that would be good to include.The Phantasmal-Class Items, do you create your own? If so, there should be some guidelines as to what sort of abilities are actually appropriate. Also, it might be worth mentioning somewhere that racial Skills are a thing.

>>54360978
Maybe we could get marvel_anon to add a +0cp drawback to the Firefly jump that puts you in the Castle-verse? /half-jk

>>54362741
>One of the races of beast-men, this race does not exhibit physical enhancement
but instead excels in Magic.
Can they learn magic if they choose a non-mage class?

>>54363629
Much as I love Firefly, the best part of the occasional callbacks to Firefly is that they're occasional. Seeing Filion/Castle walk out in Mal's costume and call himself a space cowboy is a great moment. But if you've got an entire episode or more about it, it'd just fall flat.

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>>54363580
>>54363581

You're right. Sorry you had to see that.

>>54363583
>Not really.

I don't care anymore.

>>54363595

Some of his complains had some basis. I will repeat what I said before. I want to make good jumps for you guys, this version is a lot better than the first one I posted and I'm happy for that.

>>54363622

Will put some examples on notes.

>>54363632

Up to you.

>>54363595
>changes I later regretted
Oh?

>>54363629
>get marvel_anon
Marvel_Anon is currently inside a bear's stomach, which is inside a whale's stomach, having Mecha style robot duels with Genius anon, who is also inside a (different) bears stomach inside the whale. Except instead of piloting robots, they are piloting their bears.

We won't be seeing either one of them until something breaks the stalemate.

Then, we might get an update to Genius the Transgression and/or Honorverse and WitWiCD?

>>54363643
Would it count as a possible setting for the generic Investigation or Sitcom jumps?

>>54363696
I guess it'd count for Investigation if you assume they can be used to go to individual settings. Don't think it'd be a sitcom though. It is a crime drama after all, even if it's got a focus on funny.

>>54363658
It was literal years ago, and I'm reluctant to try and revise stuff 'cause grandfathering and memories of anons being assholes. All it really takes is one anon aggressively going after you to ruin your enthusiasm.

But part of me is also tempted to say fuck it and update it.

The final part of me now knows more about the setting both because it has progressed and because I engaged it more in depth, and also become more educated on the real world material it is riffing off of, and has as such developed a contempt for the creative team for their sheer fucking ignorance on both the subject matter and basic goddamn storytelling that I'm worried wouldn't be healthy to any revisions I made.

>>54363692
That's rad.

>>54363645
You make it painfully apparent that you don't read a lot of jumps or take notes from other jumpmakers. A lot of the things in your jump have been done before, and you could have easily brushed away arguments by using the same arguments as in past jumps, but instead you chose to argue back and forth over very specific points like the Cathedral. It's the same thing when it comes to a lot of the other details that people have pointed out like details you keep omitting and your formatting, which really is not your strength.

>>54363722
Oh shit please do it. I'm not sure what Jump you're talking about, but now I'm filled with morbid curiosity.

>>54363185
>>54363427
To add to anon's suggestion, you could take the Blood of Kings: Darkness perk. Then you don't even need to go for the Book of Darkness - You get to have it's abilities outright.

>>54363722
Go for it, mang. The Symbiote update was fairly well-received, after all. With the exception of anons who were salty about something /not/ changing.

Jump #378: DC JumpChain
>Page of Swords, reversed: Voyeurism, espionage, and misguided witch hunts. The use of clever argument and eloquent speech to mask the truth.
Quite frankly I blame Lex Luthor.
>Age: 24
>Location: Gotham
As this is locked to DC, but not a given continuity, we're going to Gods And Monsters. It's an interesting take on things.
>Identity: Mortal
>Drawbacks: (+300) Nemesis, A Game Of You
So not only do I probably have to deal with some Red Lantern running around, I've also gotten the attention of the Endless. Hoo boy.
>Peak Human Fitness (Free, Mortal)
Well, that's a convenient way to stay in shape.
>Scientist (1200)
I might as well have something good to occupy my time. CruxCorp is good and, fuck it, the name is good enough to work in DC.
>Grandmaster of Combat (1050, Mortal)
It's always good to have a hobby. Not like the local Batman is doing this, he's got vampire strength and whatnot.
>Mental Resistance (900, Mortal)
Well, being able to deal with the nonsense that DC can throw at you is useful. I'll need this later.
>Master Planner (700, Mortal)
Again, local Batman isn't one for this, so someone has to be. Looks like I've been elected.
>Genius (500, Mortal)
If I'm going to be a scientist, I need to push all of my chips in. Which means I need to be smart. And with this... well, I'm not quite Lex Luthor, but I'm not too far away, I suspect.
>Membership (450)
Oh hey, check that out. Bekka, Kirk, and Hernan are super friends. Maybe they'll let me join.
>Kryptonite (400)
A little bit of the green stuff never hurt. I've been wanting to study this for a long time. Just... not anywhere near Superman.
>Lair (350, Mortal)
Underground lairs are so passe. I'd rather have an underwater one! It works nicely.

>>54363779
>Mother Box (150)
A mother box is a very useful thing. I think I'll be satisfied with a normal box, though, as opposed to Bekka's sword-box combo.
>Fortune (0, Mortal)
One would assume that this would be just a bit of an extra perk of bringing my company into this world. A little extra cash up front, and having an estate to add as an annex to the rest doesn't hurt anything either.

So, there are an awful lot of things one can do in a jump once they get settled in. Something went very off-kilter at some point in this world, though, and it's no version of DC that I recognize. Superman is DEFINITELY not who I remember him being, Batman is a nanotech vampire, and Wonder Woman is a New God.

Meanwhile I've got a company that's bringing in out-of-setting goodness. Granted, a lot of what I'm doing with the item imports is testing the limits of a setting - bringing in things that are decades ahead of their time, but recognizable and not CENTURIES ahead of their time, or so advanced as to be indistinguishable from magic. (Or actually being magic.) But when the order I introduce things is typically medical, then energy storage, then energy generation, and material science breakthroughs as well... quite abruptly people are going to live longer lives with more quality to them. This is the sort of thing that gives people hope.

And since I'm a blue lantern, I'm all about the hope. Which is probably part of why Despair poked at me so much. She even tried to get Death in on the whole thing. She was kind enough to try to sway my point of view without skewing the primary plot when it came about, but that was more because the powers that be would have frowned mightily upon her if she had - though she did ensure I was sidelined for quite nearly all of the entire affair. After all, I was one of the ones roped into Project Fair Play (as they didn't know I was the Blue Lantern), and when it hit the fan a couple of years in, it looked like I was killed by the Metal Men.

>>54363722
Well now you've got me curious and full of potential schadenfreude at how people might explode.

>>54363645
Just to clarify something, since other-anon keeps harping on the Cathedral: In-jump, does Jumper benefit from the setting's own "Adventurers resurrect at the Cathedral for the price of memory" bit?

>>54363722
You know, from your description, there are likely only a few settings that could be, but (un)fortunately I'm not familiar enough with any of them to know what exactly you're talking about.

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>>54363736

You're kind of right. I will ignore anon from now on.

>>54363793
Yes.

>>54363722

FoZ?

>>54363789
I survived only because I had a lantern ring, but when I was about to tell the others that I'd made it out, Despair worked her magic. She did try to affect the others as well, but things... didn't actually change very much. It should have gone better than canon, people should have been more willing to work together, but with one of their own struck down they were more hostile and perfectly willing to engage the government instead of talking to them.

And I had to deal with a gauntlet of bullshit from Despair that lasted two years subjectively and spanned the universe from start to end, and that turned out in the real world to have only been two days. She wasn't pleased that I found value even in the senseless destruction, because free will is a beautiful thing and she does not understand.

Still, in the end, everything worked out well enough. Victor Stone survived the assassination attempt, and ended up getting cybernetic modifications, joining the nascent Justice League there, as did others. Some of them were the same as the usual DC canon, others were drastically different. Gods and Monsters was a very different 'verse than usual. And Sinestro being a Red Lantern hellbent on destroying me for so much as existing didn't help. (Especially while screaming "you could have saved them!" and not being satisfied with "I can't live everyone's lives for them!" as a response.)

Lesson learned: consult the damn Canon Console before I go too far in a jump. Things were weird. But... still, neat.

Oh. Other lesson learned: Without Clark Kent's influence to moderate her attitude, Lois Lane is a total and complete bitch. That actually hit me by surprise, I'm too used to her being nice.

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>>54363430
>interdimensional superhero team

You know what, now I have to.

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>>54363830

Hey Heavens, van you buy multiple Bloodlines in Nanoha?

>>54363789
Just note that the Mother Box you buy with CP in that jump is basically a more advanced tricorder with an inbuilt trauma kit, not the kind that opens portals across universes.

Which jumps have the best defensive magic?

>>54363964
Oh, I know, but it can connect to the local net and scan it, which is my interest. I don't need boom tubes to step across, or indeed between, worlds.

I thank you for that, though. I know this particular one is more limited than some. I was actually hoping to integrate it into the scanning suite I built out of my tricorder and the scanner from Iji. I can't imagine that doesn't have its uses, and could probably work passively, unlike my lantern ring. Plus it's probably more user friendly.

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>>54363929
Survey says no, just because I have no idea what possible circumstances would lead to the horrific mishmash of bloodlines in-universe, especially since at least two are effectively extinct. So yeah, it's a one-and-done purchase.

>>54364037
Same thing that brings those effectively extinct bloodlines back at points? Gene magic/technology?

>>54364015
Exalted. Perfect Defenses.
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Mist Shield or whatever it got called.
Castlevania can make your soul flat out invulnerable and inviolable except for what you permit. NGE can make your body and mind expressions of your soul.

>>54364015
Hero BBS

>>54364047
>Castlevania, NGE
Jumpmaker nixed that combo, and later made a series of absurd rulings.

>>54364015
Persona, SMT, Exalted, and SDS are strong contenders. Not available for purchase, but I'm sure you could do some crazy shit with the magic in Marvel and DC Occult.

>>54364082
What, really? Can you give me the gist?

>>54361642
Absolutely nothing. I'm contemplating offing myself desu

>>54364082
Both jumpmakers nixed it actually. The guy who made NGE clarified that if the perk would result in you becoming invincible, you instead just get a lot of resistance.

>>54362741
You forgot to put the drawback limit

Speaking of NGE, what do AT Fields interact with? Is it just physical matter, or do they also affect radiation and similar? Esoteric energies?

>>54364102
He also said that it would in turn retroactively revoke any invulnerability that you already had, making it an anti-combo, and one of the dumbest rulings in /jc/ history.

>>54364151
>physical matter
Yes.

>radiation
They protect from nukes at higher levels, so yes.

Maybe even gravity, I'm not sure if they're used for propulsion or if that's something else.

>esoteric energies
At the very least, they interact with each other, so spiritual energies are likely a go. Probably magical, too, if they don't have innate defense-bypassing properties.

How can I crystalize my feelings? This is really bizarre, but I want to crystallize any feelings I have so that I can always keep them on me as a necklace.

>>54364273
No idea, but have you also considered what you'll do when that necklace fills up?

>>54364273
>How can I crystalize my feelings?
Sorry for not having an answer, but questions like this make me laugh about the things Jumpers worry about.

You've got third world problems: "I don't have any food."
You've got first world problems: "My cellphone doesn't have service."
Then you've got Jumper problems: "Where did I put my crystallized anger?"

>>54364151

One of the two most powerful beings in NGE raises its AT field and the bridge crew remarks that it's blocking out 'Light, magnetism, sub-atomic particles, everything.'

>>54364297
Oh boo, I forgot to lace my spaceship with dark matter plating. Now I'll have to make a metal infecting mutagen to do it or take it apart and restart.

>>54364297
No, I want to crystalize my feelings of love for my friends and wives so I can keep them close to my heart.
>>54364288
I'll make a new necklace, then.

>>54364399
Powered By Love (8-Bit) and Crystal Magic (Card Captor Sakura) might be able to do it with some minor editing.

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>>54364273
Dissidia's got you covered-Memory of Light and Waves lets you convert memories into crystals.

Emotional Storms from Infernals can let you infuse emotions into things you make, so if you have any other way of making crystals you can also invest them into those.

>>54364151
In theory anything, if it's strong enough. AT Fields are the manifestation of isolation, a region of space in which a being dictates "this is my world, let nothing else but my will affect it". If you've got the power to enforce that edict, nothing external can get through.

In practice, most AT Fields don't get that strong, and just affect matter and radiation. Possibly not even electromagnetic radiation, just particulate, since they're usually transparent. They never tried shooting the Angels with lasers, though, so maybe the field would reactively polarize itself or something like that.

>>54364453
If I wanted a giant ki/chi/chakra/etc avatar kind of like a mech I could summon what would you, and /JC, suggest?

>>54361642
friends, family, community.

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>>54361642
Happy endings, my love for my friends, family, and spouses, my own free will, and prosperity for all

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>>54364636
>Happy endings

>>54364114
Or it doesn't have one? They aren't mandatory.

>>54364588
Hero BBS

>>54363964
>Just note that the Mother Box you buy with CP in that jump is basically a more advanced tricorder with an inbuilt trauma kit, not the kind that opens portals across universes.
Do you have a quote for that? Because that is the standard Mother Box power, and their main on screen use. These are COMIC mother boxes even.

>>54364588
1.go air raider in EDF And pick up Walking Fortress Balam
2.Import Walking Fortress Balam into super robot wars OG and replace its Power source along with giving it more upgrades.

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>>54364588
Chi mech? I think Naruto has one of those, in the anime. I know Super Robot Wars has one of those, but neither's the being summoned kind.

Other than a Stand, Noble Phantasm or artifact related Shintai Charm, my best guess would be using the magic/King In Your Head from Gunnerkrigg Court to combine regular mech parts with your own life energy and the Ether, then rig it up into an AI like Kat's mom's program-shaped spell.

>>54364588
Exalted? That one rwby weapon?

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>>54364114

No, there is no limit

>>54361646
Warehouse, Body Mod, purchase the Biosphere supplement in The Fountain, Servant supplement in Fate, Nobody and Keyblade in KH. I use the Creepypasta combos supplement, and some of the Marvel combos as a basis for a custom power.

I think that's all of them.

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Going with Animal Mimicry in Hero Academia. I know I want an extendable tongue, but should I just be a Tsuyu clone or go with my first choice of chameleon?

>>54364908
>I think that's all of them.
All that you use? Because there are definitely more supplements than that.

>>54364933
Go octopus, they change color and sometimes apparent texture, chameleons are basically just living mood rings.

I don't know how that perk works, or if you can grab from different species, since octopus doesn't really help with the tongue thing... could make you really flexible though.

>>54364933
I'd say go with the palm salamander, instead. Its tongue is, proportionately, the strongest fast-twitch muscle in the animal kingdom. We're talking eighteen kilowatts of power in its tongue. By comparison, the strongest muscles in the human body, the thigh muscles, produce around a hundred watts. Its tongue is a hundred and eighty times stronger than your legs. Proportionately, anyway.

>>54364842
>You can purchase more than one by adding 100cp to their cost after the first one.
So would a new Title cost 100 or 200 CP for a Veteran, considering they are free for them?
Additional Roleplay/Production subclasses cost 100 CP I assume, considering there's no price listed for them?
If I take Race of Ritual + Sorceror I'm a complete glass canon, but if I add Lord of the Dungeon on top of that, that would be completely mitigated, right?

>>54364842
If you take No XP for You but have Lord of the Dungeon, is it basically free CP? I mean, you'd be at the max level already.

>>54362741
Are the "cooldown times" actually based on linked factors like "mana accumulation" or "fatigue", or are they just an arbitrary part of how this world works?

>>54362741
How much does a single zone generally cost, and is there any building/zone besides the Guild Meeting Hall that would be beneficial to purchase? I guess the Cathedral would be neat, but there' s no price listed on the wiki.

>>54364701
Yes, and yes it is.

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/37922078/#37932139

>The Motherbox I wanted to post in the jump was always going to be a very bare bones version of what the wiki said it could do. The powers it had were merely going to be the ones the jump itself stated, what I felt were always kinda the core of the Motherboxes powers. Most people seemed to be completely ok with this, after all the Motherbox in jump is still a hell of a buy.

>>54362741
What does Hidden Lore of the Land actually do?
>alter all the tricks of dungeons, raids and general secrets of this world’s backstory
I can guess that you would be able to change the world by altering its "flavour text" but without an explanation of the actual mechanics and limits behind it, the perk is basically useless.

I've spent a week in fearful, agonised dread about my exam results. I haven't dared to look at them for seven days. I just did, and it turns out I passed. Mere words cannot express how relieved I am.

I'm sorry, I know this isn't my blog. So Jumpers, when was the last time you were a coward? When were you so paralysed with indecision, you were your own worst enemy?

>>54365266
For the first half-dozen jumps or so, every tenth year was the worst.

>Hey anon, it's time to spend another 1000cp...

>>54365266
>So Jumpers, when was the last time you were a coward? When were you so paralysed with indecision, you were your own worst enemy?
In Jumpchain? Never. I have taken perks specifically to counter this tendency of mine.

In real life? Every waking moment. It's funny because I hate myself.

>>54364216
>>54364310
>>54364503
So AT Fields are crazy. What are the factors determining the strength of a field, and how can I maximize the strength of mine? Soul push-ups in an Xianxi setting? Lots of practice with AT Fields? Eating all of my vegetables?

>>54362741
If you take Lord of the Dungeon as a Player, is there actually much risk of death? One raid party pounding on one player is bound to be pretty rare, and it doesn't look like there'd be much risk from other sources.

>>54365366
I think it all depends on how buff your soul is. Zeruel, Angel of Might, had an insanely strong AT Field, enough to no sell Not Nukes casually, where as Tabris, as the bearer of ADAM's soul, was able to pull off that 'blocking out light, magnetism etc.' thing. That being said, even though Tabris had ADAM's soul, he wasn't ADAM, and it's implied the First Angel was even stronger (his death was an apocalyptic event that crippled the world and drove all life on the planet to the edge of extinction, and this was after he had been in a coma for God knows how long).

As for making your AT field stronger? Train your soul. I recommend grabbing the Meister capstone from Soul Eater, since that makes any physical training make your soul stronger as well, and the other way around as well.

>>54365366
>What are the factors determining the strength of a field, and how can I maximize the strength of mine?
Stronger soul, yeah. The AT Field is a part of the soul, the part that allows it to be an individual existence instead of part of the wider universe. Stronger souls make for stronger fields. Rei turns out to actually contain the soul of Lilith, one of the Seeds of Life, and as a result has an incredibly powerful AT Field. Weird Angelic metabiology can also influence it, apparently, since it's possible to bioengineer tools that interface with the AT Field to strengthen or focus or direct it. So when Lilith's soul got put back inside her alien biotech-constructed body (and fused with Adam's soul inside his alien biotech-constructed boy, to boot), it made for an AT Field so strong it overwhelmed the individual AT Fields of all life on the planet, battering down the barriers to their egos and consuming the souls of the entire human species. End of Evangelion was trippy.

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>>54365077
100
More or less yeah
>>54365126
You can still die and lose exp / levels
>>54365410
Other raid monsters , travelers and the guilds that like fighting

Im on phone now , so expect me to ignore a couple of posts until I go back to my computer

>>54365410
>>54365565
The Travelers are the big threat, even if they're not the ones facing you directly. They want the energies from your memories. They get them when you die...

Hell, those memories and the energy from them is the whole reason everything's happening.

>>54365715
Can they steal my memories without killing me or doing it while I revive? And is there any way in-setting to protect against it? I took the "no powers" drawback, but if I've got no way to fight back against people stealing my memories, I might have to rethink that choice.

>>54365744
Especially if they've got any way to sense who has the juiciest memories? Because jumper memories...

Hey, what are some perks for real Faustian bargain type things? Like, I want to make a literal contract for someone's soul.

>>54365854
Ghost Rider has a perk literally called Deal with the Devil.

>>54365744
So far there has been no indication that they can do anything with memories unless you die/revive, nor has there been any method shown to protect against it other than not dying.

So far nobody's managed the "not dying" part.

That said, the memories taken generally aren't large chunks, but most often the details. The name of your favorite cafe. Your mother's face, and so on.

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>New NieR Jump
>You can take all of Yorha just by genociding some dumb machines

Oh boy. Can't way to take all of them to any generic jump Japan.

>>54365854
There's a great one in Ravenloft.

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>>54365854
>Ghost Rider
>Ravenloft
>Marvel Magic

I think Exalted, Fate/Zero and Once Upon a Time also have some pretty conceptual contracts.

Things people would like to see in A Night In The Woods Jump?

>>54365898
Operators are for bullying.

>>54365875
Even then those are given willingly in order to revive.

>>54366014
Maefu

>>54366014
The ability to die anywhere else.

>>54365898
>Oh boy. Can't way to take all of them to any generic jump Japan.
I would take them to Slice of Life or Generic Hentai Modern. Probably the later.

A question, in regards to the Indiana Jones jump; it sounds to me like the Chimu Taya Arms of Cuzco basically make you an earthbender while you wear them. Is that right?

>>54366284
http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Chimu_Taya_Arms_of_Cuzco

Just looked them up, and-pretty much. Apparently it's how they built their cities.

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>>54365153
>arbitrary part of how this world works

This.

>>54365251

Great deal of information about theldesia. Including parts not know to the players or landers (secret dungeons or so)

>>54365185
No buying whole zones dear.

>>54365715
>>54365744
>>54365875

They transform the memories adventurers give up (in order to revive in the cathedral), into Emphatium. They are harvesting that.
Shiroe forgets the name of a shop near his house after dying once.
Krusty forgot various details of his childhood pet, but he died various times.

>>54366026
>Operators are for waifuing.

Fixed that for you.

I've got a question about the Prey jump, Is the first part a simulation like the game or should I assume things are actually happening and will have consequences?

>>54366350
It looks like it's real unless you take the drawbacks.

But I'm just an anon who recently did a build, so I may be wrong.

>>54366340
>No buying whole zones dear.
The wiki says it's possible, and the protag did it, albeit he transferred them to someone else for safekeeping moments later, though it was to prevent them form being bought. So I'm pretty sure it is possible.

>Great deal of information about theldesia. Including parts not know to the players or landers (secret dungeons or so)
If it's just information you should probably remove the "alter" part of the perk, considering you can't actually alter anything.

>>54366340
>operators are for bullying
>operators are for waifuing
I'm not seeing a contradiction here.

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>>54366366
>the protag did it

With the gold of the kunie. buying the whole zone and important thing in Akiba costed trillions. But sure, I will give you thumbs up if you can manage to get the money.

>>54366382
>I'm not seeing a contradiction here.

I like the way you think.

>>54366401
>How much does a zone cost
>trillions
You could have just answered that question the first time instead of giving a non-answer. And you should still update Hidden Lore of the Land, in case you didn't see it.

>>54366046
>>54366081
Very funny. I'm being serious.

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>>54366366
>>54366457

Here, first chapter, part 3. of vol7 (also appear in the anime second season, forgot what episode)

80 trillion gold for the whole zone and other important buildings in Akiba

>And you should still update Hidden Lore of the Land, in case you didn't see it.

I already said I would change that. You don't get to make me faster.

>>54366494
me too.

>>54366014
>>54366494
I thought that NikaMoth (I think) was already making a NitW Jump (eventually). If he's given up, and you're still set on it, add all my shit pls fampai.
https://pastebin.com/931S7Msn

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>Nier: Automata gimmick build
>1000
>YoRHa-Attack (800)

>Automata (Free)
>You're Not So Bad (Free)
>Not Outdated Yet (600)
>The Metal Demon (300)
>Just Be Happy (200)
>Glittering Gold (-200)
>No Mere Machine (-800)
>All the free items

>Robnoxious (-700)
>Flesh against Steel (-600)
>Nothing Is As It Seems (-500)
>What Was Sacrificed (-300)
>THIS DOES NOT COMPUTE (0)
The theme of this build is "everything wants to kill jumper. Jumper doesn't know what's going on and decides to reciprocate." The Attack perks means jumper is both good at fighting and able to keep themselves going, Gold means they're hard to put down, and No Mere Machine means they'll be evolving due to constant conflict. Most importantly, the Happy perk means they'll probably be perfectly content during the whole ordeal. Jumper will either die early on, or emerge from the jump crazy-strong.

>>54366535
>Jumper will either die early on, or emerge from the jump crazy-strong.

so are you going to roll for that or what?

>>54366504
I would like to make a build please, can we get a pdf of the most recent jump version?

And A question about the 400 cp item that landers get, what exactly can we do with it? I dont know what the flavor text actually does or what we could make with it? Is it possible to import an Item we have into this slot?

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Tempest anon are you ever returning to us?

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>>54366583
>I would like to make a build please, can we get a pdf of the most recent jump version?

Sure. See >>54362741


>And A question about the 400 cp item that landers get, what exactly can we do with it?

It's a item with shit stats but some cool power. Maybe can summon storms or it's immune to fire, something like that. I will put that in notes.

>Is it possible to import an Item we have into this slot?

Sure, but only because you asked me nicely.

In regards to the Sabbat Jump, I'm in need of another origin. I have the Drop-In Shovelhead, the Eastern European Count and a High standing religious figure (i.e Archbishop).

>>54366528
I didn't think it was claimed. I can't access 4plebs from my phone or I'd check myself. I'll double check later. But than you for your notes. You went a different direction than I was thinking, but that's a lot of useful ideas.

>>54366401
>thumbs up

Is it bad that i spent nearly half an hour figuring out how to make enough money to do so?

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>>54366636
No problem, daddy.

>>54366618
Thank you ricrod. I think I will be going lander in this one. But I like vet perks too. Its a tough one.

>>54366631
What are you basing your Sabbat jump on? The limited information on the Sabbat provided in V:tM-B?

>>54366494
>Very funny. I'm being serious.
So am I, even if I said it rather flippantly. Sorry about that. But some perk that empowers you to be able to get out of depressing and soul-sucking situations, to not just die in the same awful little town you were born in, would be pretty thematically appropriate.

>>54366693
And whatever's provided in the TTRPG books, ideally. I'm currently reading up on their philosophy and clan demographics

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>>54366631
>>54366732
Anon, considering the fact that our jump is only for BLOODLINES and not the splat as a whole, what's stopping you from making it a whole VTM jump, Cammy, Sabbat, Anarch, every little independent no-name bloodline? Cats has said he's cool with that before iirc.

>>54366716
Ah. That makes much more sense. I had already planned to make a perk like that based on Angus and his backstory.

>>54366741
Sounds like it would be a much larger job and there's easily enough content for the factions to get their own jumps.

>>54366741
For the same reason I'd like to see the Imperium Jump broken down considerably. I hope there's enough content for the Sabbat alone to make a worthwhile Jump. Other jumps for those two factions would make a nice trichotomy for the setting.

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>>54366592
I'm sure TempestAnon is merely searching his Rift for delicious content to haul back.
I hope.

>>54366782
I don't agree with faction jumps as a concept.

>>54366812
Nobody cares.

>>54366785
>>54366782
>>54366741
>>54366732
In that case, I'd go for origins based on recruiting pools: Ghoul families, occultists, investigators, criminals, nobility. Drop-in could be tossed in as an option for criminal (because it's not out of place for a criminal to have their history erased.)

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Well, while I finish to write the notes to finish Log Horizon.
Tell what do you want to see in Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu or Pandora Hearts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyAsIFsh9mg

>>54366883
>Baka to test
I want to keep my mini-me.
>Pandora Hearts
Waifuing Alice

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>>54366883
Is Pandora Hearts that game where you're stuck in this tower and there's this cute waifu who loves and depends on you but you need to keep her fed on monsters or she'll transform into a super monster? Or was that another game? 'cause I want one of those.

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So my fine anon compatriots, I've heard Nier Automata came out. I suppose it's time for 2Bear and PigS.

>>54366883
I want to save the abyss girl and maybe be able to replace B-Rabbit as an option.