Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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Repostan from last night

Hows this "IG" list sound?
It was a vraks renegades army until the fucking forgeworld index made that into an unplayably bad army
(Using power cause the listbuilder website is gone and finding point values for every little thing is too much of a pain at this point in planning, I'm also not gonna note the special weapons)

Platoon 1 (+3 command points)
>Company Commander
>Primaris Psyker (x2)
>Platoon Commander
>Command Squad (standard)
>Veteran squad
>Infantry Squad (x4)
>20-man Conscript blob (x2)

Platoon 2 (+3 command points)
>Company Commander
>Primaris Psyker
>Platoon Commander
>Command Squad (mortar team+standard)
>Veteran squad
>Infantry Squad (x3)
>20-man Conscript blob (x2)
>Heavy wep squad (3 lascannons)

Vanguard 1 (+1 command point)
>Uriah Jacobus
>Ministorum Priest (x4)

Vanguard 2 (+1 command point)
>Lord commissar
>Commissar (x4)

Total Power: 99
Total Command Points: 8
Total # of dudes: 191

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>>54354519
Don't save thumbnails.

First for Orks

Reposting

The new starter boxes apparently come with lore for factions. Anyone got it or know it?

>>54354519
>Not "Slaanesh's box edition"

So close anon ... so close

Tell me about your custom HQ. post background story and pics if possible.

>>54354550
> Initiative 2

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Elon Musk was wrong about AI.

>>54354537

Too many detachments / 10

>>54354590

ITT, edgy anon trying to force his crap screencap as a meme

>>54354590

For what purpose would you save and compile the worst content of /tg/?

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>>54354570
>initiative

>>54354577
AI is our friend.

>>54354590
Stop posting this dumbass screencap.
It's not funny, it's just a bunch of shitposting. Fuck off

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>T-The overlord in plastic would be way too big and not even worth it!!

See you in 2 years dorks

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>>54354556
Heavily tempted to make Geth-Crons.

>>54354519
tell me more of slaanesh's box

im doing research for the inquisition

How are yall running Death company these days?

Im temtped to try a razorback and a squad just to have something up the table while I drop a big squad in the back with lemartes and a priest

Throw a thunderhammer in a squad of 5? or better to go axes/chainswords?

>>54354602
>>54354612
>>54354639
>implying i posted this more than once
?

>>54354649

GIVE ME THOSE

I would pay out the butt for 28mm Geth miniatures. Or at least headswaps.

>>54354602
>npshitter upset again

>>54354612
Xenosfags will always be a cancer sadly.

>>54354639
Stay irrelevant.

>>54354666
I don't believe you, Slaanesh.

Don't worry, I'll buy one.

>>54354649
To expand on this, I'm planning to use the tip of a banana with some green stuff on top for the sideburns.

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>>54354556
>Lord High Commander Verant Ortys, chapter master of the Red Scorpions (center)
>Commander Ainea, captain of the Red Scorpions 3rd company (left)
>Codicier Yaec (right)

These three were the HQ for the Red Scorpions from Vraks

They never got official models or character rules but in the original IA vraks books there were historical fights in the back of the book that included unit lists and gear

So they are all kitted out in the gear they would have had during the siege of vraks.

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>>54354590
Are all eldarfags this retarded?

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>>54354556
Chaos Lord who's actually a loyalist but got caught in a warp storm, got the attention of a Lord of Change and him as well as his entire chapter that got caught along with him have gone insane and had their perception warped to the point that they think daemons are just funky abhumans and the chaos gods are different aspects of the emperor. Khorne being the Emperor's fury, Tzeentch his cunning, etc.

Heavy Quixote vibes.

>>54354708
Patrician choice anon. Drill those barrels!

>>54354590
This deserves an award for most mediocre shitposting that's for some reason constantly resposted.

>>54354640
For GW it is. Limited run productions for companies which are online only and don't have to maintain shit around the world can do shit like this.

54354640
Yeah because that model is obviously made for a miniature wargame and not for a patrician modeler. 0/10 made me reply

>>54354640
>box clearly says PREMIUM EDITION
I'm sure people won't bitch if the Overlord is a limited edition model.

>>54354685
Hey man, they were in the wrong and you (assuming you were disagreeing with the Eldar guy) were right.

That said, let's drop it and not derail the thread.

>>54354685

Bets on the shitposters shitting up things and randomly bullying Eldar?
Gotta be either guard or admech, they are the most numerous here and it sure as hell isn't the borderline non-existant cron posters

>>54354738
Why couldnt it be MADE TO ORDER like the Warlord ?

>>54354763
It will be, FW made of course. But honestly i don't understand why people want to play with things like that.

To break even more the wrong miniature scale of Warhammer? Titans are kind of fine because they barely move half the table, but for a flyer?

>>54354640
I'd rather get a model for something like the Dora than spend the money on a flyer for some random Marine microfaction honestly. Two of those massive fucking guns, a bunch of tracks and Servohaulers, Mechanicus emblems everywhere and general industry would be a hell of a display board. I think you can still buy some of those in varying scale.

>>54354681
My friend was actively working on a Mass Effect module for 40k, so we'd be playing 40k style rules, but set in Mass Effect. Of course, this was in 7th, so those rules are out the fucking window.

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>mfw exposed boner

>>54354790
It could. Means I could spot the Chinashitters as they'd just buy from China.

>>54354810
Works for the Manta.

>>54354790
Made to order does not exist in plastic moulding

If you put a mould in, you might as well make a couple hundred models at least.

>>54354556

Dark Eldar Archon, it's in the process of being built.

Blackark fleet master head (with the long hair) heated and repositioned flowing back, husk blade arm pointing forward and the harlequin sword that's held behind its back, Wych running legs with extra armour and an archon torso with trophy rack.

Back story he doesn't have much, he is very aggressive and wants to show off his swordsmanship at the expense of his soul, which he barters off to my other haemonculi HQ. His retinue is all Lhameans (currently working on 4 individual looking ones). He has a brother archon who's more of a pussy (armed with a blaster) with 4 sslyth bodyguards. Sword one rules the kabal as he's the most feared, blaster one is trying to usurp leadership but struggles due to haemonculi protection.

That's as far as I've got.

54354827
Was pretty close.

>>54354820
That model looks so fucking weird.

I can't tell if they're meant to be an assault unit or a long ranged support unit.

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Really want to start 40k, but o can't decide between Mechanicus and Daemons. On the one hand, I just love to Mechanicus models (I'm an engineer :P), and the Ryza colours look awesome.
On the other hand, the lord of change model is gorgeous, and I absolutely love the idea of horrors splitting exponentially (plus I like brightly colored, many armed dudes). Khorne stuff is cool too. Slaanesh is too monotone and nurgle is ugly and slow looking.

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>>54354833
>Barters soul off to Haemonculus

>>54354831
No.
Loterraly wrong.
Pic related is made very limited run ans is full plastic.
You do NOT Stock and move around 1000$+ models as the market is very limited.

Give a reason why they couldnt fire the mold on demand only

>>54354556
Chapter Master of a DA successor chapter, he was interred into a dreadnought after battling his closest-battle brother when half the chapter fell to chaos.
He leads his battle-brothers in a penitent crusade to atone for their sins and hunt down his once-friend and finally give him the Emperor's Mercy.

>tfw everytime you order from Forgeworld your bank cancels your card for fraud even though you've called ahead to alert them of the purchase a day before so you don't have a leviathan dreadnought to make your chapter master
Feels Bad Man

>>54354820
>>54354839
Also all that strong armor for those micropenis missile stumps

>>54354874
Something something economies of scale something something plastic molds cost thousands of dollars etc.

>>54354686
i was actually refering to its vagina(s)

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>>54354820

What the fuck is Gravis armor even supposed to be?

Cheaper Terminator armor with slightly less protection and none of the crazy esoteric sub-systems?

>>54354854
>is engineer
>picks nerd armies

Choose orks like a man!

>>54354839
If i am not wrong they are used as the vanguard (that would explain why they have a flammer option) so at least in fluff they will used as kind normal Cents/Termis mix.

Devastator are still going to be the infantry long range support unit, unless the special weapon squad gets heavy weapons.

>>54354820
I must say, except for the Inetrcessors, Primaris have been a let down for now.

>>54354854
Daemons suffer from overspecialization which is a pro and a con depending on what you play against, but as a bonus you can play 40k and Age of Sigmar with the same models.

Admech can be pretty flexible and get a ton of options with imperial allies.

I'd say Admech is probably a bit more forgiving to play as a beginner althought daemons have better start collecting bundles.

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>>54354519
>FW FAQ (Part 1 and Part 2)
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/09/forge-world-faq-july9gw-homepage-post-4/
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

Just a note for future OPs, There's no reason to include the "part one" FAQ from July 9th. While it has Adeptus Astartes and Chaos FAQs version 1.0, the "Part 2" includes the 1.1 versions, which is the same shit, just clearer and more correct.

"Part 1" FAQs from July 9 are obsolete.

>>54354893
Pseudo-centurion armor I assume. It's nothing like terminator armor at all really.

>>54354839
Close range support.

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Carrying this over from the last thread:

Hey anons, I'm looking for some advice. I'm wrapping up my Tau project and I'm looking to restart my Marines for the new codex, but here's the issue:

Back in 5th era I ran a 2000pt Blood Ravens army. It was a great army that won me plenty of local tournaments and best in show for painting, and I was proud of them. During my last move, however, something happened with their case and everything spilled out. Pretty much every model was damaged or ended up missing parts. I fixed what I could, but I just don't think I can use them anymore. I'd rather let them retire with my first IG army for display purposes.

I still have some unpainted and unassembled figures (I had about a five year hiatus from 5th through 7th due to school and work), so I do have a baseline to start with.

Is there anything wrong with just shelving them and starting anew, or am I inviting bad juju on myself and wasting money?

Pic related is where I am keeping my "retired" armies.

>>54354893
>>54354910

It's apparently in-between Terminator and Artificer.

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>>54354519
So I was thinking about building an Iron Hands army, but without any of the fancy new Mega Marines. However it seems like every tool and unit regular Marines have are being Super Sized and made better. Is there even a point to building a non-Primaris army anymore?

>>54354854
>:P

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>>54354820
I'm with >>54354877, those launchers are tiny. What is it with GW and tiny missile pods these days? Missile pods are suppose to be big. I want CML, not little Tau rocket pods taped to a Marine's backpack.

Hope there's an easy way to mount a CML on there, because I'm not against having a unit.

>>54354918
You need to do what you feel is right - if you want to start frsh ad won't, not only you'll end up with half new models and half old models (also painted with obsolete skill i'm guessing), but you'll regret not choosing to start fresh in my opinion. You can just sell the old models! Yu bought them so many years ago so I don't think it's wasted money at all at this point. It would have been a whole different thing if you started an army and changed your mind after buying two boxes because you don't like them anymore instead.

>>54354854
Pick Admech, they are about to double their lineup with Fires of Cyruxus which will make them amazing.

>>54354584
Detachment limits are an optional rule for organized play

>>54354875
>tfw in the next imperial armor my chapter master is getting interred in a leviathan too

Feels sad man
he had a hard life...

Also unless you live in brittania just order from the chinese. its way easier, faster, and cheaper. Also forgeworld quality control sucks and has moldlines everywhere/sends the wrong kit in my expirience. Chinamen never did me wrong tho

>>54354939
Did I mention I also have a vagina?

>>54354928
Honestly primaris is probably worse than regular marines because they have almost no wargear options. They're good baseline but can't be customized at all to work with the rest of your army.

>>54354891
So was I.

>>54354952
What's that?

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>>54354839
Ever seen a broadside?
Same thing but not as cool.

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>>54354854
Personally I think Mechanicus a best, and we're about to get a fuckload of new stuff. Go to the Forge World Horus Heresy bit, select the "Mechanicum" army and wonder at all the fuckawesome models. Paint some Scyllax in metallic colours, there's your multiarm monsters. Also, the Mechanicus has way more varied fluff to base an army on, I managed to find an army based around biological sciences to convert the hell out of and I didn't even look hard. What kind of engineering do you do/prefer?

(On a side note, me and my colleagues were taking survey samples in Scotland for the last few days and we found pic related. Tzeench has been corrupting my beasties apparently, although it's still soft and friendly because seafloor worms are too thick to be scared of humans. Rainbow Fur Sea Mouse a cute.)

>>54354957
Thanks for the tip, after the 3rd time of it happening I've completely given up on getting anything from Forgeworld ever.
I've got a buddy who buys recasts, I'll have him connect me with someone

>>54354973
I didn't know it was possible for me to loathe Tau designs even more.

>>54354817

Well, you have kind of an easier system to work with now. I'm thinking of making a Hinterlands-level skirmish game for 8e, though it's tempting to set it in Shadow War as well. I'll have to weigh the pros and cons of each system. Certainly Shadow War gets you more unit customization, a huge plus for the Inq28 crowd, but 8e has a great simplicity that seems to scale very well both high and low. Loosen up the wargear options and you have something to work off of.

>>54354918
I feel like dioramas would be more fitting than a simple display case, but either way they are your models and you can retire them if you want to move on to other projects.

>>54354966
Give examples.
It's literraly false for anything in power armor.
Vehicules you may have a point but thats only because primaris have 1 and SM 60+, but wait 2 years amd Primaris will be better at everything.

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Does anyone have a Squiggoth(smaller one) and an Araknarok they'd be willing to photograph next to each other

Also a Mawcrusha and Orkanaut

P-please

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>>54354820

>>54354973
>Weaponized tictac launcher

>>54354981
surely this is a bank issue and not FW's fault
what the fuck did they have to say for themselves when they cancelled it after you called in advance ?

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How the FUCK is this not an open topped vehicle?

>>54354649

The issue here is that the cool Geth-sthetic doesn't make up for the Necrons being the most boring and irrelevant faction in 40k.

>>54354987
But anon they are the perfect weaboo aesthetic i bet you are a normie that never saw a glorious gunpla

>>54354971
Fires of Cyraxus is a new book put out by Forge World, will give us rules for all the Horus Heresy Mechanicum models in 40k, and they're somehow EVEN BETTER than the GW Mechanicus.

Coming Soon (tm) and has been for a while, but since there's some stuff they didn't bother giving Index rules it must be really rather close. I wouldn't imagine more than a couple months.

>>54354874
>Loterraly wrong.

Dude I fucking work in plastic moulding

Getting a mould in: 1-3 hours of time form a technician
Processing out the defects and fine-tuning machine setting: 20-60 minutes from a technician. All parts made during this time are trashed.
Moulding: 15-120 seconds each part, fully automated.

A large kit probably will consist of 4-12 separate moulds.

Once you get the mould in, you might as well keep it running for a couple hours at least.

>>54354854
>:P
Typically admech player

>>54354952
>about to
lol
good one

>>54354977
>til sea mice are a thing

>>54354981
I got some off ebay which were pretty good
They sent a businesscard with it for wartablegames.com

I aint trying to shill them tho
Thats just the only lead i got besides searching ebay

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>>54354971
Forgeworld upgrade which will bring a bunch of 30k models into 40k. Lots of giant robots, new tanks, etc.

Looks like this.

>>54355029
Gunpla are flimsy eggshell shit that are neither fun to build nor display. Fuck Bandai.

>>54354977
Is keeping a sea mouse anything like keeping nudibranches? I had some fun with them during their 3-6 month lifespans in my saltwater.

>Your wallet's face when you are a salt water aquarium enthusiast and own 3 different 40k armies and have a wife

>>54355032
Doesn't that also have tau?

>>54355036
He is just starting the army, by the time he builds and paints a start collecting and some Kastelans it will be out.

>>54354997
Intercessors, interceptors, hellblasters.

None of those have wargear options.

Unless they changed the index under my nose anyway.

>>54354893
I don't know, but I'm buying some just to paint up Black Templar Beakies as the most adorable Penguin-Marines ever.

>>54355016
>open topped
but it isn't
it is open everywhere

>>54355060
ya
dunno what aside from the new flier

>>54355065
Did you not see the image of the Inceptors with weird plasma guns?

>>54355025
>Played a major part in the last Storm book
>irrelevant

>>54355071
i will rape your gamehole you piece of shit

>>54355065
And why do you need wargear ?
Like give a specific example of something that squalets can do the primaris cant do better.
if you say hording them then you dont take wargear anyway

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>>54355046
Another of them close up.

Also here: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-JP/The-Horus-Heresy?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102772+4063051076&qty=8&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat2210033

>>54355013
They said that I should have let them know in advance. In response to me saying that I did, they said I didn't and to let them know in advance next time. Also I had to wait two weeks for a new card each time. One time I even got the funds withdrawn from my account but it didn't go anywhere, they just put a month long hold on it to "investigate fraud".

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>>54355065

>>54354820
How much do you think that will cost?

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>>54355046
>>54355093
You had me at giant robots

>>54354973
Is it even possible for an uglier model line to exist?

>>54355065
Well of course they don't have rules for options because there's no models for options. They're literally rules for the models GW has given us, the DI ones. The new captain's rules include rules for all the bits he has. Interceptor rules don't include the plasma pistols. Reiver rules don't include anything relate to the grappling hooks. Those get added once the models are released. Once Intercessors and Hellblasters get proper model kits, then they'll get options as well.

>>54355098
Can't really compare the two yet if we're going by the unreleased codex though.

>>54354820
Not as awful as they could have been, certainly better than Centurions, but I've really not been impressed with most of the Primaris.

>>54355099
I'm betting at least 70€. Retarded price tags that is.

>>54355041
To be fair, so did I. Normally I do plankton and such, this was just a "Look what I found, lads" from the dredging team, normally they're either washed up dead or stay on the seafloor. That's the underside, the top half is really furry and soft and the bristles are just harmless chitin. It's like my favourite microorganisms but properly sized and I love it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodita

>>54355052

No clue, but given where they normally live I can't imagine they'd be too hard to keep. I know a friend keeps some similar worms and just feeds them Daphnia. I kind of want to get me some Sea Mice myself now.

What's the best anti tank for dark eldar in 8th?

>>54355098

>Intercessors with dual plasma pistols
>Also with the space helmet enclosure down

Well, they're Primaris Seraphim alright.

>>54355117
my phaeharika

>>54355025
>irrelevant faction

I'm not sure who the most irrelevant faction is. Probably Tyranids, given they don't have any characterization. The Newcrons let GW stick Necron characters into the storyline but you can't do the same with how Nids are set up. They exist as a faceless baddie.

>>54355123

Railsides are pretty sick
Missilesides, are universally considered the less aesthetic option

>>54355089
Veterans, Devastators, more balanced transports options and heavy weapons for everyone.

Right now, normal marines are better at everything.

>>54354973
>building models out of legos

>>54355089
>give a specific example of something that squalets can do the primaris cant do better.

Have more than 5 bolter marines in a unit? Have special and heavy weapons without having to buy a whole new unit stacked with them? Give sergeant close combat weapons?

>>54355152
To me, the Tau line is to 40k in the same way as a neon pink chair is to a earth-tone themed room.

They're out of place, they look bad, and they make no sense in context with the rest of the furniture.

>>54354953
And battle-forged armies and points are an optional rule, too.

Fact is most people go by the 3 detachment limits at 2k points and if you go over they will tell you to either fix the list or go play power points with the kiddies.

>>54355089
be smashfucker

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KoS plus Start Collecting Slaanesh box bare is 500 points, how do I expand that?

>>54355178
You forgot: and edgy post-modernist marxists like them exactly for that.

>>54355153
>Right now, normal marines are better at everything

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>54355185
>play power points with the kiddies
>implying playing power points isn't superior
>implying that it's more fun to play competitively and worry about list building and being a WAACfag
>Not wrecking your wife in a pickup game after dinner

Why even live?

>>54355178

Give me some Tau that exemplify the Blanche illustrations of their concept art and I'll take it. Contrast those flat panels with exposed pipes underneath, the curves with bent-back antennae, ports, sockets, and the occasional nodule.

>>54355199
Another start collecting.

>>54355170
>Have more than 5 bolter marines in a unit? Have special and heavy weapons without having to buy a whole new unit stacked with them? Give sergeant close combat weapons?
all those are statistically worse than just spamming hellblasters.
10man unit is steicly worse than 2 4-man unit, and even then, reinver and intercessor are 10man both in the MPP box and in the codex.

What would a looted Chimera be, a Battlewagon or a Trukk? Comparing the Chimera w/ram side-by-side with my GW Battlewagon, they're roughly the same dimensions, but everyone seems to run the Chimera as a trukk.

>>54355199
More SC boxes.

>>54355203
Yes, that's true. Tau players frequently talk politics at my game store and it's always some DRUMPF type shit.

Isn't the point of this shit to escape from the shitty real world? People who talk politics at the game store should be drawn and quartered by LARPers

>>54355199
More slaanesh daemons, go multigod or mix in emperor's children although I'd recommend a Daemon Prince if you go that route.

>>54355098
The Primaris Chaplain looks boss!

Also Inceptors look a lot better with those lowered blast helmets, but still have some parts of the model I can't stand.

Aggressors look kind of like ass.

>>54355197
>7th
Why are you literraly talking about a completely different game ?
Smashfucker is non existant anymore and even then a couple biovore would btfo him thanks to mortal wounds.

54355206
(You)

>>54354649
Who is selling those!

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>>54355254
Sorry I couldn't hear you over how awesome the best chaplain model in the world looks

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>>54354973

Compared to the superior loadout

>>54355278
I honestly think the WW exclusive looks better and has the benefit of being plastic. But it's a fucking exclusive so...

>>54355254
The hood make me mad.

>>54355046
Wrong Diorama. That's 30k vs 30k. The FoC is Ad Mech + Red Scorpions vs Tau.

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>>54355215
>having a wife

>>54355278

>Not the one covered in skulls

>>54355222
>>54355242

No Fiends?

But okay, then.

>>54355250
Probably will get some EC if they ever release plastic noise marines.

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>>54355227
I don't care about "muh competitiveness," I don't want paint by the numbers units, I want units I can equip and model how I want. Even in 30k a tactical squad has a plethora of options compared to primarines.

>intercessor are 10man

You must have a different codex.

>>54355304
My wife plays Deldar and Craftworlders and the only units in her army that can't fly are Warwalkers and Wraithknights if that makes you feel better

>>54355153
normal marines with jetpack can put out 8 plasma pistol shots EACH even in close combat ?

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>>54354973

ugh

I really want to like the Tau models because I'm unabashedly a mecha fan but christ these are terrible.

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>>54355317
>if they ever release plastic noise marines.

I too had a dream

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>>54355301
Yeah but the FoC one is zoomed out too far due to shilling the warlord titan.

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>>54355277
Pssst, its photoshop. Done as a concept for the idea and how it'd translate onto a model.

>>54355334
I said right now anon.

>>54355324

They're becoming 5-10 in the codex along with reivers and hellblasters

>>54355326
It doesn't but thanks for trying
>does she have atleast 4 wave serpents?

>>54355339
>dead god of an NPC race having new plastic models

sure thing

>>54355185
Battleforged armies and points are requirements of Matched Play. Detachment limits are not.

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>>54355350
Yeah I guess.

>>54355353
>HunHun I'm right until next week haha btfo

>>54355215
>Not wrecking her body after dinner

>>54355324
Why are you posting the index ? Its not the codex.

>>54354874
>Give a reason why they couldnt fire the mold on demand only
Because getting the moulds swapped out and setup, running off half a dozen and then swapping back to whatever you were making would make time that could have been used for 1000-1500 production cycles.

GW is short of machine time as it is - made to order plastic kits would be incredibly wasteful.

>>54355335
>I really want to like the Tau models because I'm unabashedly a mecha fan but christ these are terrible.

XD anon real weaboos love Tau there is no such thing a someone that love mecha to hate Tau battlesuits.

>>54355335
Western mechs are literally my favorite thing in the world and I totally agree. Tau are fucking ugly and exist only to grab the Weeb dollar.

The thing is, Tau were flavor of the month for so long that people kind of forgot that nobody actually likes the Tau, they're just a WAACfag army (at least they were in 7th).

Hopefully 8th will see the death of the Tau playerbase and they can be squatted for 9th.

>inb4 muh faction with 3 planets is relevant to the galaxy

>>54355366
>Dead god

Nope.

>NPC race

Chaos is NPC now?

>>54355390
>replying to the resident shitposter

>>54355366
>dead god of an NPC race
>Slaanesh an eldar god or chaos being an npc race

What?

>>54355390
He means Eldar.

>>54355390
>Now
If you dont have a Warlord titan Model you're an NPC

>>54355389
>Tau are fucking ugly and exist only to grab the Weeb dollar.
I always thought Eldar were the designated weeb faction?

>>54355365
Working on it, my brother just bought her $200 worth of war walkers for her birthday that should arrive at the store next weekend.

The thing is, no matter how much shit she gets, she finishes her new shit by the end of the week. And I'm over here sitting with over 80 unassembled tacticals and like 60 other terminator/centurion/dreadnoughts/etc as well. I don't know how she does it.

>>54355409
But Slaanesh isn't an Eldar god, nor is he dead.

>>54355277
>>54354681
see >>54354689

>>54355389
Casual T'au player here, got into the game about a year ago. I picked T'au because I liked their aesthetic, the sleek tech, and the mechanical focus around customization and teamwork. 8th is looking good.

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>>54355376
Hey I found an okay one.

>>54355389
>waaaah
Lel, you're so whiny.

>>54355428
You're taking far too seriously a throw away shit post

54355378 (you)
>Missing the point
Anon, until the Codex there was no point of using Primaris metawise.

I want them to be much better so my Primaris only army can defeat marinelets.

>>54355440
That's a big gun.

>>54355426
yeah I'm the same way here. still have some flyers and landspeeders to put together

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>>54355389
>"Waah, stop liking what I don't like": The Post

It's okay to not like things, just don't be a dick about the things you don't like.

>>54355381
When you can get laid literally whenever you want it becomes less exciting.
It's more fun to spend time and share hobbies with each other. She got into 40k, I got into Guinea Pig breeding.

>>54355468
>Guinea Pig breeding.

How's that going?

>>54355468
>I got into Guinea Pig breeding.
Alright slow down fucker, we're not just rolling past that like it's normal.

>>54355383
What about a scheduled cast time every two months, where all orders made between cycles would be completed and shipped out?

>>54355389
>Weeb dollar
You mean pseudo weebs that think they are the W40k trolls?

Asian people love Marines and Eldars, GW tried to sell them to the japs and nobody liked them.

>>54355468

>rodent fucking hobby
ok

>>54355418
they both were in some sense, tau overtook them in weebness and weeb dollars

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>>54355465
>defends tau by posting animeme face and whining passively
enjoy rerolling your ones

>>54355497
Dude, the Japs fucking love Guard because it's some prime JSDF wank for them.

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>>54354973
>tfw finished this right when the new broadsides were released.
>have never used a broadside since.

>>54355477
Have a solid all white abyssinian line going, started with the best tempered guinea pig we ever owned and went from there. 3 generations in and they're all very similar to the progenitor in disposition.

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>>54355389
Sorry mang, the good guys only got stronger.
Coming to a planet near you to wreck your shit and there's no riptide wing anymore so stop bitching about it.

>>54355389
I liked it better when auxiliaries were relavent

>>54355536
Where are you from?

And that sounds cool, if unusual.

>>54355523
>Tau being a Waacfag modeling for advantage
haha wow so surprising. I bet your commander are xv8 size instead of the new one bigger than a dread

Just finished the exclusive story "in the Grim Darkness".

Cawl enjoys listening to music as he works. His favourite music comes ancient Terran composer from thousands of years ago. His name was "Mozrt Artues". Any idea who that be?

>>54355558
>>Tau being a Waacfag modeling for advantage
Fuck off, newfag.

>>54355559
Mozart, Anon. Amadeus Mozart.

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Anyone else feel that necron warriors are the most OP unit in the game?
>Put out as much dakka as firewarriors
>Harder to kill than space marines
>Cheaper than space marines
>Regain lost models every turn
Wtf was GW thinking when they made basic troops this good?

>>54355544
>>54355547
I'd like Tau if people used their troops and shit. The four tau dudes at my store just stopped playing 40k when 8th came out so my opinions are based on anecdotal experience.

>>54355558
>actually being this new
Haha!

How are Wraithblades in 8th? Are you better off running them with swords since the axes and shields are so expensive?

@54355558
0/10
doesn't even deserve a (you)

>>54355544
funny thing, strategems seem to be bringing back some formation-esque stuff back
can't wait to see some broken shit that armies with double digit command points will bring

>>54355554
Northern United States.

Guinea [pigs are funny animals, they always run away from you when you approach their run, even if they were crying for food or attention. Plus if you get enough of them, they make really long trains in order of their herd hierarchy.

>>54354861

Read the fluff, the archon give part of their souls over to the haemonculi as "insurance", and they can "barter" part of their souls for upgrades (like scourges) and such.

>>54355578
>that pic
I remember that thread. Good times.

>>54355582
>>54355567
>Samefagging ""Oldfag""
Ive played this game way before you. Purposefully making excuses for not updating your model IS modelling for advantage.
Good thing i dont see poo waacfags people like you in tournament

>>54355516
Most Japs that are huge mecha otakus and want to play with something that have WAR in the name are around that ideologies and tastes.

Japs don't even call them Wargames, they call them simulations or minitures games.

>>54355578
Why does GW keep advertising SM's when tacticals are the worst troops in the game?

>>54355578
So, here's how you counter them. Take a fast vehicle and charge them. Forget about them for the rest of the game. I play Harlequins and if my opponent puts down 20-40 Necron warriors as his front line I can ensure that they will never get to fire anything but overwatch the entire game while I kill the rest of his army.

>>54355622
>YFW we're actually an American Guinea Pig Breeding forum

>>54355644
Troops are irelevant

>>54355655
Problem is that their overwatch obliterates anything.

>>54355661
the memes are real...

>>54355605
>>54355460
>>54355269
>>54354834
>>54354743

Shitposting Burgers.
Pottery

>>54355098
That primaris chaplain looks amazing, but I'm an edgelord Dark Angels player, so am probably its target audience.

Whose decision was it at Games Workshop was it to launch the Konor campaign, Ultramarines vs Death Guard without any Deathguard releases save the Starter set?

>>54354649
Some company needs to make proper heads to do this. It is exactly what I want for Necrons. I'm too shit with greenstuff to do it myself.

>>54355673
>Necrons have good troops
>Tau have good troops
>Eldar have good troops
Why can't Space Marines have good troops?

>>54354820
On the one hand, they fill the role of centurions, by putting out loads of dakka while still being maneuverable
On the other hand, they look only marginally better than them.

>>54355640
>Ive played this game way before you
Clearly not.
Also, learn to use proper grammatical conventions, ESL-kun.

It isn't modelling for advantage, never has been.

Furthermore, the Anon in question said he didn't even run Broadsides.

You're an embarrassment to other trolls. Improve your lifestyle.

>>54354711
You seem like someone who understands the screencap
what's the fuss about
eldarfag unboxes and shitposters shitpost
I don't believe it's everything

54355681 (You)

> Used to play Tau til I switched over to DE due to all the tournyfags ruining it for me at LGS
> Now it's 8e and it seems like they're draining out to other armies
> Tempted to rebuild my Tau army since I mainly used tanks, drones, and firewarriors with carbines

Do carbines still cause something like pinning?
What are some advantages of carbines over rifles for Fire Warriors?

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>>54355699
Left box is my leviathan dread. Deal with it . I can hide it behind a Gravis Capitain

>>54355701
Some people get angry when others treat 4chan like a blog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOeKidp-iWo

>>54355697
Troops are irrelevant for space marines

>>54355688
To give the imperium a fighting chance against the numbers of chaos/xenos. before dropping morty half way through and giving them all space gonnasyphaherpaA.I.D.S.

54355709 (You)

>>54355697
Because GW is too afraid to change a single SM profile. They think that bolters with S4 AP- Rapidfire1 is good. They think that 3+armor is "good"

>>54355724
>I can hide it behind a Gravis Capitain
So?
It's not modelling for effect.

So only just got round to looking at the new edition rules.

Have they gotten rid of all the base psychic powers in favour of smite?

>>54355697
scouts are good

>>54355751
>It's not modelling for effect.
What did Ivan mean by this ?

>>54355734
Then what's the point of having them?

>>54355769
he meant he wanted (you)s

>>54355774
Because you like to have fun and aren't a WAACfag

>>54355688

Shocking, unforeseeable case of favourtism,

>>54355711

No pinning.
Assault instead of RF type, and... yeah

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Why does the lore always become better when Mechanicus is involved?

>>54355701
On that screencap, Eldarfags seem to be particularly butthurt and adamant about falling for obvious trolling baits (i.e., replyin to "faggot" replies etc) and reasoning in such terms as "everyone is a faggot so it doesn't matter if i'm a faggot"

>>54355071
Post pics once they're done plz

First thing I thought of when seeing Agressors was pinguins waddling around

>>54355791
Im a fluffy player, so I never use SM troops.
They are supposed to be an elite army and the Vanguard or outrider detachement is much more fluffy

>>54355675
40 shots hitting on 6s and wounding on 5s against a 3+ save vehicle (with a -1 rend to a 4+ save) causes 1.1111 unsaved wounds. Stop exaggerating. They're good, but they have such a huge footprint that they're really easy to tie up.

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>>54355762
Yes.

I want to build a massive force of grot tanks. I've got four maxmini ones already (the three from the kickstarter and one of their 'tankette' assault guns). Apart from forge world, who else makes some?

Also suggestions for kits to bash into grot tanks? Going to pick up pic related for sure and maybe their chinky mbt (might be a bit big for a grot tank though).

>>54355688
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/01/the-fate-of-konor-the-muster-begins-now-july1gw-homepage-post-4/

So I've read through the free rules online, but still had a question: can I bring multiple chapters of Space Marines to a game? My main group is Blood Angels, but I also have some Ultramarines from when I started, and some Salamanders from a friend who was selling them for pennies on the dollar. I'd like to play with all my models, but at the same not be seen as trying to pull of cheese or break the rules for that matter. I know there used to be some sort of allies mechanic, but I didn't see that anywhere in the rules for 8th. From the best I can figure out my captains just won't buff all my non-BA, but am I missing anything?

>>54354556
It's seven lords of sincerity, three of them represent Hope, Despair and Balance between the former .
Other four are simply warmasters dedicated to strategy and planning.
I finished only one of them so far and second is /wip/, focusing on non-strategy dudes.

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750 pts tourney in a week, any advice on my list?

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I guess these guys are probably stationed right beside the throne these days.

>>54354820
These make me feel glad I stopped with 40k. But it makes me sad to see GW slowly killing themselves. I want them alive so they can make more plastic HH models.

>>54355818
So why do you care if troops are relevant or not in terms of rules? Tactical heavy detachments are as relevant as first company or strike force armies

>>54355818
What about the 8 other companies?

>>54355825
>40 shots
Bolters are only rapidfire 1 retard. And tacs can only be taken in squads of ten.

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>>54355497
>>54355516
>>54355641
Japan loves Marines. GW even gave Japan some exclusive Marine models. There's even 40k doujins. So, you know...

>>54355856
I can't wait to see how much primaris boxes cost.

>>54355830
I think the smasha gun variants make for great models to kit bash into grot tanks.

Just add another set of wheels and they're good to go.

>>54355655
Your opponent doesn't remove them from the front to get then out of combat to shoot your ass?

>>54355840
They all share the SPACE MARINE keyword, I assume, so they can probably be in the same detachment together no problem. The only thing that'll slow you down in that some will be able to use special rules from characters and such, and those will only work on guys from their specific chapter. So I think you can do it, it just won't be optimal for a lot of things. You might be able to make it work or find an interesting combination though, so tell us how it goes. Obviously we can't tell you exactly what it'll be like without the codexes out yet.

>>54355868

Read what you're replying to first

>>54355766
>>54355697
Scouts kick ass.

>>54355922
And now they cost more than tac marines.

>>54355840
>From the best I can figure out my captains just won't buff all my non-BA, but am I missing anything?

This is correct although the codex is bringing chapter tactics and other rules which probably won't change them being able to ally but will probably change how they interact.

>>54355868
We're talking about Necron Warriors in squads of 20...

>>54355641
Well the danish word for wargames is figure-games.

>>54355935
>?
Scouts are 11ppm
Tacs are 13ppm

With cloaks they cost 1 point more, but they have a 2+ in cover, and don't need a transport.

>>54355854

The golden throne has never been depicted flanked by Telemon Dreadnoughts, but that's what retcons are for.

I like the idea, according to the fluff on the product page, there were never as many Telemons in the galaxy as Primarchs.

>>54355961
Figures ...

>>54355748
>They think that 3+armor is "good"
It is. It's even better now that cover gives you a bonus to saving throws.
>But I can still be killed by anti-tank weapons!
Cry me a fucking river.
>Plasma and grav spam makes armour irrelevant!
The reason that plasma and grav spam is a thing is because 3+ saves are so fucking good everyone plays 3+ armies and you need to spam weapons that can kill them. Badly armoured armies only seem good because everyone has concentrated on killing the fucking 3+ stuff and neglected anti-horde.
>They think that bolters with S4 AP- Rapidfire1 is good.
Oh look, an anti-horde weapon. You think it's shit because it can't kill marines, but marines are shit despite being virtually immune to bolter fire.

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>>54355250
Why can't GW release an updated Daemon Prince model with customisable parts for the four gods and undivided?

>>54355578
Necrons aren't even a tier army faggot. Since I know you are a SM player I will put this in terms you can understand.

Necrons make up for a lack of powerful and various special units by having good infantry. Necrons cannot compete based on spamming warriors, they are bad at killing vehicles and heavy infantry. Necron specialist units suck, and so Necrons are mediocre despite having warriors and ghost arks.

SMs have amazing specialist units, but bad troops. They also have access to leas fluffy but amazing troops from other codexes. A WAAC SM army is always better than a WAAC Necron player, and a fluffy SM player is roughly equivalent to a fluffy Necron player. Either start arguing that Necrons should get plasma spam or shut the fuck up.

>>54355734
It's rather ironic that tacticals are the poster boys and the very soul of the setting and supposedly they suck on the table

>>54355982
This pic reminds me that I wish GW would sell a sprue or bag of heads/skulls from various races, just for basing purposes. Figure they could do one sprue with a few heads from every race, some skulls, some with cracks in them, and people would buy a shitton of them.

>>54354556
An Archon who left the main city due to wanting to be a pirate and later met Creg while sailing through the webway. Now he is insane, and believes he's on a quest sent by the Eldar gods and muses to gather legendary artifacts and that the Harlequins are basically angels possessing meat sacks. He also communes with them via drugs. He also acts more or less like Thanqoul complete with a Groteques made from Tyranid parts that constantly dies.

His Haemonculus wants to merge Tyranid and Eldar DNA to overcome death and create an Eldar version of the hive mind and may or may not be mind controlled by the Hive Mind.

The Succubus onboard his armada is actually working for the Harlequins who wants to steer him at Chaos or anyone that pisses them off and watch the hilarity arise due his ineptness ruining things for anyone around him.

His crew of various Eldar units are in it for the loot, adventure, and glory.

>>54355873
Madhouse or David Production picking up one of the many 40k books/series when?

>>54355982
Maybe after all the other daemon shit is out of the way, they'll indulge us with some Furies and a new DP (with heavy AoS aesthetics). Or a prince for each god, because of money.

>and undivided

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>54356047
>Implying we wouldn't get the adventures of Chapter Master Junichiro Tanaka and a tsundere SoB

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>>54355880
That would look neat but holy fuck that's an expensive way to do it.

>>54355873
Now I want to see the rage of an imperium otaku reading tau fluff.

>>54355461
For you.

>>54356019
That's because on the table they have to fight multiple of those scary things that are beating the living fuck out of them in the fluff.
And recently in the fluff Chaos marines have the same quality armour as Orks : a bolt round hitting a loyalist in the chest just staggers him, a bolt round hitting a traitor in the chest always punches straight through the power armour and pulps both hearts.

>>54356051
>Or a prince for each god
Think they'd update the nurgle one? It looks so bad, reminds me of those gross kid stickers they used to sell at super markets and laundromats.

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>>54356047
>>54356074
>>54356081
Sadly I've never found full downloads for his books.

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>>54355515

>>54356080
So knock out some teef you git

>>54356093
>"recently"
>reading Storm of Iron
>guardsman throws a hasty snapshot at some CSM
>punches through the breastplate and wounds the marine
>later
>loyalists storm traitor lines
>shots just bounce off their armour

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>>54355622
>if you get enough of them, they make really long trains in order of their herd hierarchy.

Neat! You don't happen to have any pictures of this do you?

Also, this thread is now a guinea pig-thread.

Me and my sister each had a guinea pig when we were young. Mine looked like the one in my pic but completely brown. Really chill pets too. Loved hearing their excited screams whenever you went into the kitchen.

>>54355766
>>54355922
Scouts getting a WS/BS bump midway through last edition to have the same stat line as an actual marine still fucks me off, both from a fluff perspective and because it makes the humble tac marine even more redundant/obsolete.

I mean, scouts being great value is cool, but it highlights how garbage manlet marines are for their cost.

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>>54355852

whats the best guardsman colour scheme you ever did see?

>>54356107
That reminds me, is multi tracker on stealth suits a good option?
It's cheap, they only have one gun anyways, and gives them freedom from markerlights.

>>54355873
Yeah that is what i said, Japs don't like Tau stuff. It is a shame they did shitty job selling W40k to the Japs, If only they had a little but fanatical Otaku group we could have more based doujins and that kind of stuff.

>>54354820
They have ammunition feed and drum magazines for the same single-barrelled gun? Are they meant to have separate projectile and propellant, or are those black and copper bits not actually magazines (maybe a revolver feed system or some kind of cooling system)?

Gravis armour just seems to look terrible in every variant. The captain was almost OK, except for the wrist-gun and the groin-shrine. The kindest thing I can say about these is they aren't as bad as the inceptors.

>>54356151
I don't know about you guys, but to me guinea pigs are food.

>>54356186
>More proof that only the worst type of weebs like Tau

top kek

>>54356105
I remember a guy asking if someone could buy them he could translate them.

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>>54356181

>>54356159
Why does this keep getting posted? We worked out the mathammer. With a Trojan Support Vehicle and it being stationary, it kills 10 marines a turn. That's nothing. Completely nullified by Combat Squads.

>>54356101
No, they'll just make a whole new one, if they do make god specific princes.

Probably same way all the greater daemons, with a few options for different variants (flying, footslogging and a named character). So a Nurgle one might have one with wings and some gross fly head, one with a horned head and a big pole weapons (with an option for it to be a wizard staff) and some special character with maybe Mortarion style hooded head and shit. And all bits can be combine to make /yourdude/.

>>54356214

Neat, works great if you don't have to work for a living

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>>54356208
I posted them around originally and I wanted somebody to buy them, didn't see the guy offering to translate. Fuck knows how to get them.

>>54356214
why did you post a pic of some boots and floating grenades?

>>54355961
Why they call them like that? Japs call them like that because: War is bad and something serious, no nuke, army a waste of money.

>>54356214
I'm not a fan of armour and fatigues blending together like that. I like there to be some separation to show they're different materials and maybe even made by different people with a different pattern or even colour.

All my dudes, while they have camo fatigues, have OD armour and helmet.

>>54356229
>this meme again
What third-world slavery conditions do you work under that you don't even have time for hobbies when you get home?

>>54356215
>Muh Astartes Retardates Math
Its a tyranid list.
It's a meme.

>>54356214
>not glorious Praetorian Red

>>54356194
>The kindest thing I can say about these is they aren't as bad as the inceptors.
Well put

>>54356093
>a bolt round hitting a traitor in the chest always punches straight through the power armour and pulps both hearts

I think it's just a case of the vast majority of books being bolter porn from a loyalist perspective. In their own fluff, traitor armour is just as good as loyalist's.

>>54356257
The Vulcan is also 350 points. You'd be better off taking an Infernus.

>>54355982
That'd take too much effort. Also it feels like they're just putting undivided on the backburner lately.

>>54356144
lol

>>54356182
an ats might be nicer

>>54356270
There's one book about GSC vs SoB... and then Chaos arrives. SoB bolters do fuck all to the CSM and the CSM bolters penetrate the SoB every single shot. It's plot, lad.

>>54356274
Ill be better of taking a squad of 6 Primaris Turbofucker shooting 8 plasma shot each even in closecombat.

>>54356274
>Range16
>Relevant
Choose 1

>>54356234
I think the guy sell them online, i don't remember his name his twitter was full of wargames related links.

>>54356284
Which unit is that? I don't know.

>>54356215
The list he posted has nothing to kill it.
killing 10 primaris a turn is still verygood

>>54356284
It are just gonna be plasma pistols with AP -4 anon

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>>54356297
bottom pic

>>54356301
I thought it was just regular Marines?

>>54356292
Really? I know his name is R-Worcus or something, I can't read Moon so I have no idea how or where to buy them.

>>54356311
They those fucking flying fucks just with Plasma Pistols?

>>54356283
>SoB armour worse and more vulnerable than CSMs
that atleast makes sense

>>54356330
>They those fucking flying fucks just with Plasma Pistols?
inceptors

>>54356270
>storm of iron
>loyalists make a glorious stand and wade into enemy fire, unless they're some retard commanders who go chasing obvious bait
>traitors get fucked in every turn, when everything should have been on their side

>daemon world
>everyone dies

>pawns of chaos
>chaos forces betrayed to save some imperials so that the war can continue

>>54356311
>Chaplain has a pimp cane instead of a Crozius Arcanum

Chap marines being nigger marines confirmed.

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So, what are some cool, lesser used Chapters of Space Marines?

I was going to go Space Sharks with the Primaris I was going to get into, but people keep saying Drop Pods suck ass now, and that was a big part of the Space Shark fluff tactics. I want to find a chapter, even one without visual reference so far, that has an interesting tactical gimmick, that would compliment some of the Primaris stuff we're getting. Any suggestions?

At the very least, a chapter that is interesting that has a few good successor options, so I can make my own chapter.

>>54356284
Why even in close combat? i am pretty sure these things will be like the mini heavy bolters, assault plasma rifles.

Or they leaked those new inceptors?

>company commander, plasma pistol, powerfist
>Platoon commander, plasma pistol, powerfist
>2x command squad with 4x plasma gun
>Chimera, heavy bolter, heavy bolter

Yes or no? Seems fun and can be run in it's own detachment. Worked well when I did it with flamers. Maybe add in a ministorum priest with plasma pistol/eviscerator for when I have to charge in?

>Unload, bust your rapid fire plasma nut on the enemy re rolling 1s thanks to orders
>charge in, do some damage with powerfists.
>If it's still alive next turn take your lumps
>Next turn pull everyone out, orders to allow both squads to rapid fire plasma again

Is there any conceivable situation where a Tau player would want to take Longstrike, Hammerheads, or Broadsides over fusion Commanders for armor cracking?

Those other options are more expensive, less accurate with less shots, and can't deep strike, so what's the point?

Longstrike is the only comparable piece, and even he is 20 points more expensive with his base loadout while still putting out less high AP shots.

>>54356337
Power Armour is power armour. Penetrating the armour should happen on both. Space Marine are more resilient due to the shit they have under the armour. SoB and CSM bolters are pretty similar. But it turned into MY MAGICAL REALM with the SoB getting raped by genestealers.

>>54355979
It's a model word for it, doncha think?

>>54356242
I have no idea. Maybe because actual 'wars' are not necessarily part of every wargame (not every conflict is classified as a war), but all wargames use miniatures.

But I doubt that much thought was put into it, it was probably just randomly chosen / evolved like that.

>>54356350

Field Raptors. Surround your enemies in deep strikes and die like Boreale.

>>54356330
>I thought it was just regular Marines?
each shot is Damage 2. so it can kill a standard marine or primaris as excessive damage dont spill on other troops like AoS

>>54356364
A genecult themed after corrupted sisters axtually sounds like a pretty cool idea, all that reverence directed to the hivemind and the patriarch as its will, emphasis on sacred motherhood for the gene sisters, ample chances for monstergirls

>>54356330
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