Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

>>54343394
Source on pic?

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Multi-pose Reivers sub edition.

>>54343394
I was just wondering when they would release primaris terminators.

>>54343413
That one on the left trying to be batman

Seriously though, that model must be impossible to transport.

>>54343394
something looks off about those fists

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>Half of your army (by number of units) HAS to start deployed on the board

Well fuck genestealer cult and terminator armies i guess

>>54343394
>>54343413
muh dick

>not only is calgar not spiritual liege
>primaris have an entire unit that takes his place.

>>54343445
At an odd angle picture wise. Still, we knew they were coming. They're described in the Dark Imperium novel.

>>54343445
The guns are coming out at an angle for some reason, rather than flat against the side or back of the hand. It makes the fists look wide.

>>54343429
I think those are supposed to be the Centurion equivalent.

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Do games workshop still sell the black reach bundle?

>>54343429
I think these are devastators actually

>>54343413
I AM THE NIGHT EDIT WHEN? If nobody converts a Not!Batman model with that chain gun guy...

>>54343413
>None of them have full helmets

Fuck.

3+ T5 W3
2x Heavy Bolter
1x Missiles
2x Fist

Gonna be default wargear either 120 ppm or 50

Either way high or way low

>>54343468
Nope.jpg. Thats the new terminator armour.

>>54343468
>>54343471
Dark Imperium has them as vanguard units to soak fire. They're not Devestators. They're closer to Terminators since there is a Captain in the armour they're wearing.

>An Aggressor Squad is a Primaris Space Marine unit, that is equipped with shoulder mounted missle racks, that are reloaded from internal armour stores located within the Agressors’ Gravis power armour. They also wield Flame Gauntlets, that billow forth burning promethium.

Seem like Centurion replacements, to me.

>>54343458
put two goliaths or chimeras with 2 five-man genestealer squads each in them. Bam, you can have six units in reserve and your deployment takes all of 2 seconds, meaning you get to go first and deploy your entire infantry horde at once.

Why did FW see it necessary to prevent master of machinations from healing hellforged models

>>54343469
kind of, search around for battle for vedros, it is the black reach box split into different boxes to get younger audiences into the game.

>>54343475
it's not so much the heads that annoy me it's those goofy fucking face masks. I'll be getting some resin heads separately I think

>>54343486
Theyre literally mobile infantry suits from starship troopers

>>54343480
It's not, it's Gravis armour.
Primaris Termis aren't a thing yet.

>>54343486

...Flame Gauntlets? Damn, my SOB would kill for that.

I wonder if they are Flamers or Heavy Flamers. Twin Flamers seems more likely on infantry.

>>54343505
Gravis armour IS the terminator equivalent. It even has design features of teriminator armour such as waist guards and the positioning of the head in an enclosure.

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>>54343413
Ok that grappling hook is the only thing I like about the entire primaris line so far.

>>54343492
What about something like Deathwing terminator armies?

>>54343475
My guess is there'll be helmeted options in the box as well, apply head protection as you wish

>>54343511
Maybe they're shorter ranged Heavy Flamers? Like what the inceptors have? Maybe d3 shots each.

So I heard some doom and gloom about the upcoming SM codex apparently breaking some shit. Do you guys know something about it?

Also I know some people complaining that Ultramarines already are breaking the core rule with both fallback and +1ld.

How many additional attacks does a cadre fire blade add to a normal strike team with pulse rifle.

My mate says he shoots 4 times per model since he was granted an additional shot, meaning he fires his rapid fire 1 weapon twice.

>>54343394
why is the skitarii start collecting in the new releases on the gw site

>>54343519
Primaris grew on me. Bar the jetpack fat fucks.

These seem like a goofy in-between from Centurion and Terminator.
Dual-wielding ranged weapons in hand, while still having assault weapons in hand (assuming those are Power Fists), while also sporting a back-mounted weapon feels Centurion-y, but they don't look as huge and tanky, which feels more Terminator-y.
Unless there's ever been a time where Terminators had two guns, then it's pretty close to that, but I can't think of any time.

>>54343529

That would also work. 2d3 would get across the idea that each one isn't a match for a heavy flamer while also making them a very nice paired weapon.

>>54343520
... Do the same thing with Rhinos and Assault Marines? Idunno man, don't play them.

>>54343526
I don't think so, they'd have shown more head variety if it was there.

>>54343538
Centurion were a mistake. Shittiest neo marine design next to potato copters.
Thanks the Emperor for,Primaris to wash away the fail.

>>54343475
Should be enough spares in other boxes to fix it.

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For my npcrace snakebiteorkbros in the other thread.

I still hold this concept art close.

>>54343530
Ultramarine chapter tactics are OK but hardly game breaking. Plus one leadership on small units that can re-roll morale tests already, what a game breaker lol.
Falling back and being able to shoot is nice, but they do suffer a -1 to hit. Anything with the Fly keyword (and like all Harlequins for example) already do that better.

>>54343515
>Gravis armour IS the terminator equivalent.

Do you really believe that? Do you actually think they're not going to make Primaris Terminators?

>>54343552
Eh, Centurions are ok. The front armor is too clean, but it's basically Hulkbuster and long as you treat it as such, it's fine.

want to start a BA army but all the successors are so cool so I was thinking of doing a mix BA with Flesh Tearers, Knights of Blood and Lamenters and maybe some Ultramarines primaris guys to be a defence of Ba'al force. Is it even worth doing any marines at this point or should I wait for primaris ba models?

these niggas could work well for flesh tearers desu >>54343413

>>54343552
One of my mates had an autistic screech over the Gravis armour. But he likes Centurion armour. So he's kinda not worth listening to, desu.

>>54343538
Marneus Calgar had twin powerfist/bolter terminator amour right?

>>54343565
>nocaps
Neck yourself

>>54343394
>then the chadmarine totally penetrated my bunker!
>would you say he was... the aggressor?

>>54343552
With beergutted marines ROFLMAO

GW really is trying to be more PC, they already made obese marines to appeal to the pro-fat crowd. Fem marines are basically guaranteed now.

>>54343565
You can just paint the Primaris as BA. The only changes from BA/SW/DA will be special bling and shit. I'm waiting on BA Primaris kits. I'm in no rush.

>>54343555
But none of them will have the skull masks which is a noted feature of Reivers.

>>54343538
>Unless there's ever been a time where Terminators had two guns, then it's pretty close to that, but I can't think of any time.
CML+Storm Bolter or CML+TH/SS

>>54343576
Marines were always gorilla mode.

>>54343580
If you're hardcore, cut the skull off the heads and stick them onto another half of a full helmeted one.

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>>54343576
>this post

>>54343413

Remember your CQC training

>tfw first strike is actually good
>read rules
>you choose the warlord trait now, you choose the psychic powers now
What the fuck I love 8th now.
I love how they describe the tau empire as a place where everyone foregoes pleasures to better the tau, when by joining the tau your ability to engage in said frivolities increases greatly.

>>54343560
Stop pretending that falling back and shooting isn't a hige buff. No, it's not ultra game breaking, but it's also EXTREMELY powerful. No one cares about the leadership thing.

>>54343394
There's just something about this that I don't like and I can't put my finger on it.

>>54343562

Could be that they are. Could also be that hunch-backed terminators are getting redesigned into this.

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Finished up painting with the leader of my Nob mob, Boss Facesmasha.

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>>54343576

>pro-fat crowd

you mean your average 40k player?

>>54343630
ThIN YOu ARE pAinTZ

>>54343563
>>54343568
Centurions are waddling babystroller marines its just shit marines don't need to ear armour in their armour just give them a new MK of armour.
It was the period of flying shoeboxes and potatoes that lost me because they were just tarnishing the marine brand to milk it.

Primaris are the right way forward.

Link on the reiver and agressor boxes?

I want to shoot whoever at FW thought it was a good idea to make Hellforged vehicles unrepairable.

>>54343618
I wonder why the missile launchers are so tiny. Even a terminator mounted Cyclone missile launcher looks more impressive.

What is it with chad marines and their vehicles having tiny missile pods ? Is it because they are tiny in another place and Cawl didn't want them to feel intimidated by huge ass missiles ?

>>54343394
I didn't think I'd like the inceptors until I got my mitts on them, I'll probably like these.

>>54343394
>>54343413
Have we even seen an Intercessor box yet? I thought they would have surely come first.

>>54343641
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

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What do you guys do for terrain? How much do you like playing with? Built any lately?
Pic related, some scatter terrain I've been working on.

Azkaellon is The Sanguinor

Prove me wrong.

>>54343654
They're marines for a new, more egalitarian age. Now everybody gets missiles instead of one guy hoarding them all like a greedy jew.

>>54343688
No, because Sanguinius is the Sanguinor. When Sanguinius died, his hate and darkside was killed, not his goodness. Goodness survived to protect his sons due to psychic link. So it's obviously him. It's all irrelevant anyway, Sigmisund is SUPER AWESOME UNBEATABLE DUELLIST.

I need some heavy support/anti-vehicle for my Thousand Sons army that are at least somewhat fluffy. Anybody have some suggestions?

>>54343705
>his hate and darkside was killed
He didn't have this.

>>54343711
Pretty sure after he got fugged by Ka'bandtha his personality changed and everybody noticed it but didn't notice their change, which Sanguinius did, which made him sad.

>>54343394
Just found out about the roster builder, damn shame.
Anyone else know a good list builder?

>>54343576
You do realize that having a convex shape to one's abdominal armor is a way of strengthening it with minimal addition of weight? The armor would deflect incoming fire and absorb hits more reliably. They did this shit when platemail was big. The Marine underneath isnt any fatter, just better protected. Personally, I dig it. As >>54343596
said, gorilla-mode works for marines. Sit down, shut up, drink your fucking milk

When are we going to get Primaris Sisters with athletic Kingdom Death style bodies.
By the Emperor we need this!

>>54343706

Dreads and preds.

>>54343725
SoB taller than manlet marines would be in-fucking-credible

>>54343676
at home, I've got a bunch of packaging foam and cardboard from work make up terrain from.
It's enough to give me multiple levels, LoS blocking, etc.
Doesn't look good, but it works.

>>54343704
wtf i love communism now

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>>54343676
>terrain
Unlike yuropoors us Americans actually have enough money to get more models and offset shooting casualties.

>>54343531
You get three shots, its an extra shot not shoot twice.

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So a friend of mine recently just gave me 2 Vendetta Gunships for free, and since I got a bunch of scions I was fucking around in battlescribe and came up with this 1850 list.

Any thoughts?

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New TS player here. How do I run rubrics?

5 man unit? 10 man unit in rhino? 20 man unit foot stompers?

>>54343753
Post non-worst girl and maybe we'll answer you.

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>>54343676
Working on volcanic ash tree bases, going to be my table's primary LOS blocking terrain.

>>54343753
>run
It's called Advancing now.

>>54343753
10 dudes in a Rhino, less if you want an Exalted wizard to ride alongside them.

>>54343394
I want to like gravis armor.

I really do.

BUT THAT FUCKING HOOD LOOKS GOD DAMN RETARDED, WHO PUT THAT THERE?

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>>54343771

>>54343753
10 man so you can use a heavy weapon. Rhino is not a bad way to get them into rapid-fire/warp flamer range.

>>54343742
breddy gud

>>54343742
I love vendettas but they almost doubled in price this edition, but we do get double the shots so its a pretty good trade.
Looks better than my list lmao, at least you have infantry that can actually kill stuff, I just went for like as many fliers as I could fit in and I've picked it up again after stopping work on it back in 5th ed

>>54343773
Is all flamer the way to go or are bolters fine due to range? Also, soul reaper cannon, worth or no?

>>54343789
>soul reaper cannon, worth or no?
Mandatory

What troop choice should I run in Ynnari?

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>>54343783
>>54343787
Thanks for the input I just realized I did mess up and meant to have a Plasma Executioner instead of a regular demolisher and with that I was able to add an astroapth.

>>54343740
>American
>doesn't make trash terrain
It's like you're spitting on the American flag every time you put a model on the table.

>>54343789
Soul Reaper Cannons are great and there's nearly never going to be a situation where you don't want one unless you are tight on points. Flamer versus bolter depends on how aggressively you want to use them, but generally you should ideally want your bolter guys to be in rapid fire range anyways. 4 or 5 flamers can make a nice screen for characters and deter enemy charges with the auto-hit overwatch.

>>54343394
the sarge looks like he has to pee haha

>>54343789
Soulreaper cannon is really nice if you can spare the points.

Never take more than a single unit with Warpflamers, they're fucking ridiculous if you use them wel but cost a ton of points. The combo is disembark from transport for 3'' Advance for 5+D6'' and have a sorcerer cast Warptime on them so they can move 5+D6'' again. Them really needing Warptime cast on them to shine is another reason you only take one unit with flamers.

>>54343827
I wonder what it smells like haha

As a joke, haha!

Wonder if it taste nice,haha!

What's the best way to utilize Sternguard now? Is it worth throwing them in a transport of some kind, or just plop them on an objective and pelt things with their special issue bolters?

>>54343779
You don't need 10 to take a soulreaper cannon.

>>54343843
9x in a Pod with Stormbolters
Add a Captain/Pedro with a stormbolter as well.

>>54343835

Assblasted bitch haha

Why is Typhus so much better than a Lord of Contagion for 20 points less? Also, I split a Dark Imperium Box with a guy so I have 2 sets of Nurgle. Is it worth it to use a Lord of Contagion and Typhus? If so, what's a good way to convert one LoC to Typhus?

>>54343847
>For every ten models in the unit, one model may replace his Inferno boltgun with a Soulreaper cannon
>every ten models

???

>>54343775
My friend said the same and got really mad at them. I dunno why, it's not that bad. I suspect that it's there so they can look about easier.

>>54343632

>Average marine player

>>54343869

named character advantage

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>>54343632
>>54343676

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Sup fellow Archons. Advice on this list? Going to have my first 8E match soon

Drukhari 2000 Pts – Outrider Detachment (1998 pts)
HQ:
>Archon (71) – Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Phantasm Grenade Launcher
>Succubus (76) – Agoniser, Archite Glaive
ELITES:
>5 Incubi (90)
>>Dedicated Transport: Raider (126) – Disintegrator Cannon, Shock Prow
>5 Trueborn (118) – 4x Blaster, Dracon with Phantasm Grenade Launcher and Splinter Rifle
>>Dedicated Transport: Venom (95) – 2x Splinter Cannon
TROOPS:
>10 Warriors (96) – 7x Splinter Rifle, 1x Splinter Cannon, 1x Shredder, Sybarite with Phantasm Grenade Launcher and Splinter rifle
>>Dedicated Transport: Raider (116) – Dark Lance, Shock Prow
>5 Warriors (46) – 3x Splinter Rifle, 1x Shredder, Sybarite with Phantasm Grenade Launcher and Splinter Rifle
>>Dedicated Transport: Venom (95) – 2x Splinter Cannon
FA:
>6 Reavers (224) – 2x Blaster, 2x Grav Talon, Arena Champion with Agoniser
>5 Scourges (170) – 4x Heat Lance, Solarite with Shardcarbine
>5 Scourges (130) – 4x Blaster, Solarite with Shardcarbine
>5 Scourges (118) – 4x Haywire Blaster, Solarite with Shardcarbine
>5 Scourges (85) – 3x Shardcarbine, 1x Splinter Cannon, Solarite with Shardcarbine

HS:
>Ravager (156) – 3x Dark Lance, Shock Prow
>Ravager (186) – 3x Disintegrator Cannon, Shock Prow

Thanks dudes

>>54343835
I wonder what space marine pee would be like.
Would it have little waste product in it or would it be some toxic waste acid shit?

>>54343867
You're a butt buccaneer two afraid to walk the plank haha!

>>54343869

Have to sell Typhus models for all the autismo's who can't run the LoC model as Typhus

>>54343875
It doesn't look like a space marine, it doesn't look like it belongs. The bevor is fine, but that ginormous hood hanging over the head serves no purpose and just looks incredibly goofy.

christ these look like pure shit alongside the batman marines.

>>54343869
Even they're really trying to push Typhus sales, or it's an oversight and he'll get an increased cost in the codex.

>>54343883
>Agoniser
kek

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>>54343884
A marine could probably cum acid. Like, if you asked them to.

>>54343894
This is what i love about the dark imp sets. You can finally run official LotD as intended from the old Cadia campaign.
And you get truscale marines. Who did they hire(fire) to start making such quality decisions.

>>54343896
>It doesn't look like a space marine

It looks like a more reasonably shaped Terminator.

>>54343896
Wait, can you circle the bit you mean? I dunno if I'm talking bout the same shit.

>>54343884
Isn't it recycled in combat and is just regular piss and shit outside of it?

>>54343914
Canon wise they can have sex but don't want to. They are all sterile as well. One of the reasons they fall to Slaanesh is getting to do shit they've not been allowed to do. Could be a good story, a guy goes renegade because he wants to have kids and joins Chaos in the hopes of getting it. Slaanesh could offer it, Nurgle could offer it and Tzeentch could offer lore to do it. Khorne just yells BLOOD and is ignored.

>>54343924
Since when has anything about 40k been reasonable?

>>54343560
the falling back thing is great on vehicles, if it applies to them.

>>54343896
So you are not ok with hoods on terminators, librarians and GKs etc

>>54343883
S or Move on the succubus?
I assume the Reavers are taking the +1T.

>>54343800
anyone

>>54343942
Chapter Tactics apply to Infantry, Bikers and Dreadnoughts only.

>>54343950

Yeah, Reavers get the T. Succubus takes S and hitches a ride on the combat bus.

>>54343913

u wot m8

>>54343413

I know it's not a reasonable universe, but isnt leaving the top of your god damn skull exposed really stupid? Or do they have future grim-dark space wizard muscle warrior plating im not aware of.

>>54343940
Plenty really.
All Terminators have a "hood" it's just that the top of it is about level with the shoulders and the Marine's head juts from his chest.

>>54343894
I'm going to try to chop one up and run it as Typhus. Typhus' model will be small and look like shit compared to the rest otherwise.
>>54343921
What do you mean official LotD as intended? Because of the mutants being basically poxwalkers and shit?
>>54343907
I hope he gets a points increase of the LoC gets a point decrease. Either way I want a reason to take a normal one. Same with Pask and Tank Commanders. Either someone needs to be more or someone needs to be less.

>>54343985
They are commandos when do guerrila fighters wear enclosed helmets.
Its better to have your senses unhindered. They sit in the bushes sharpening their knives waiting for enemies to turn their backs

>>54343800
Wyches!

>>54343800
non-troop detachments.
that or Kabalite Warrior or guardian defenders. For low cost bodies.

>>54343985
They're not meant to be frontline troops but autistic screechers who blow up supply depots and shit. So the masks are needed for that. Why it's not thrown into a helmet like chaplain, dunno. 40k!

Why do SoS have exposed heads and long hair which is totally inappropriate for combat? Rule of cool.

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>>54343947
That makes sense because it's some bollocks about the psychic hood boosting their powers/defenses. There's at least an explanation. And on terminator there's not so much of a hole where a head pops out of like a dog sticking its head through a cat-door.

>>54343934

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>>54343985
The easy to build versions have full helms, so I have no idea why they've excluded them.

>>54343985

GW runs it as a joke it seems. One of the recent BL books was using it as a gag of sorts.

>>54343775
His gut looks stupid too. Gravis armor captain dude literally looks like a retired alcoholic space marine that got a rekindled fire to serve the emperor again.

>>54344009
Back during i forget when there was the EoT* supplement. LotD were an army with no official models. Comprised of things like Tychus and zombies.

>>54344019
Ah. Hmmm. Dunno, really. Other than projection from shrapnel? Is that where there's something important?

>>54344027
Might be alternate options?

>>54344039
Typhus*

>>54344027

I really doubt they neglected to give them other helmet options considering scions get like 13 heads per 5 guys

I'm more curious as to whether any of those reivers look like they've got power weapons

I'm looking through the Genestealer Cults section of Xenos 2 index, and I'm not finding shit for the cost of a Cult Icon. Battlescribe claims it is 20 points, is there a page I'm glossing over that confirms this?

>>54344039
Ah yeah, I still have that book and my old Cadians I made into shitty mutants. I loved it. I'll probably run my Death Guard with my normal Guard and call them Renegades. Lazy, but I want to play both.

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>>54344027

Where does it say they have? If you're judging a kit by its box cover then you'd think the Tempestus Scions don't have beret heads because all the models have full helms. Just wait for the release, idiot. Box will probably have 20 heads.

>>54344019
they make as much sense as the giant pauldrons.

Makin' a dead kunnin ork warband of stealthy-scare tactics Nobz for my first time painting an army.
Gonna make them all have white face paints and call 'em "Da Spooks".

>>54344051
Maybe the gravis armour hoods are meant to contain the mess when an explosive headshot happens, because everybody got fed up with cleaning up the mess it leaves behind.

>>54344051
If it's protection it should be more comprehensive. As of right now it's a shot trap that should scoop non-explosive munitions into the wearer's neck.

75% of the necron stock is out of stock. Can they please update their stock, jesus christ.

>>54344027
Maybe they just not show it on the box ?
If the ETB kit has it then it would be ridiculous if the multi-pose kit doesnt get one.

>>54343519
I'm going to use that grappling hook on an Ork.

>>54343676
>What do you guys do for terrain?
Beer bottles and cereal boxes

>>54343896

Hoods on power armor make more sense than helmets desu (like Starcraft marine hoods) since it protects against explosions from above and the sides but doesn't leave the users neck vulnerable to kinetic snapping when the helmet is struck.

>>54344079
This is the logic used for everything people don't like. It also implies projectiles speed up when they hit something.

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Pretty sure old terminator armour had the 'hood'. Like this.

>>54344106
Starcraft marine hoods are inspired by astronaut suits. Then used as protection against radiation.

>>54344141
And just like Pickles, these belong in a garbage can.

>>54344140
Did this artist use an actual scene of dead people as the base...

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>>54344162
Yeah. All his art is real life stuff edited. This one? is... (fucking 1 image limit)

>>54343985
Well, lots of models go around helmetless, but since the scarehorn is built into the front of their helmets, they need to have at least that part so they can toot it. That's why they are half masks.

>>54344162
probably, though likely just took a small part of a picture with those bodies on a street.

And before someone give him shit for this, using parts of other pieces for larger complex compositions is techniques going back to the masters painters like Rembrandt.

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>>54344181
>>54344162
Is an edit of this.

>>54344181
>is real life stuff edited

Its called references anon, all artists use references..

>>54344189
Thats not the point. Its a bit on the nose to use dead bodies in your art pieces.

>>54344181

And this is one of the goodest 40k art pieces in a while.

>>54344195
>Eldar terrorists

>>54344204
it's an art piece of war. And they're out of focus enough to be anonymous.

>>54344215

Aren't those just Rangers? Or Harlequins? Or Dark Eldar? Well, now I know why the Imperium just shoots them all on sight.

>>54344141
>WELL I HATE XENOS SO DAMN MUCH,
>THEY WON'T GET OUT, THEY WON'T GET OUT

>>54344201
I never said otherwise. Was just saying the guy uses real life photos to give it more 'life'.

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Interested in Thousand Sons, how bad are they and how likely are they to be among this year's codices?
Also, good paint schemes for them?

So what the hell does the grappling noodle do then?

>>54344215

Redundant

>>54344220
Nope.jpg its fantasy art exploiting a real persons corpse. Its disrespectful to the dead. Its not out of focus enough to not find the original.
Lets be honest its pretty morbid and amoral.

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>>54344236
glossy pre-heresy red is the only acceptable answer

>>54344195
>edit
I mean, it looks a lot more like using a poses as a reference.
but I'm being pedantic probably.

>>54344012
>>54344013
I'm at 1777 out of 2k with this, what would you do with it aside from trash it?


Supreme Command Detachment
Yncarne
Skyrunner Warlock
Farseer

Vanguard Detachment: Ynnari
_
Autarch Skyrunner, x2 avenger shuriken catapults
Yvraine
_
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
_
x10 Scourges
x10 Scourges

>>54344255
If you wanna look like a piece of cherry candy maybe ...

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>>54344236
Their pre-Heresy scheme, while hard to pull off for a new painter, is patrician.

>>54344255

Candy Apple red is the best 1kSons color scheme. Although would shiny, pure white also make a good scheme as well? Perhaps if you gave it a marble texture...

>>54344225
They are the fanatical Eldar known as Al-Aspects

>>54344261
Definitely the wyches you lacking SOVIET MELEE POWER!! Maybe even just upgrade them to bloodbrides.

So, since Orks and Necrons will be getting sub-faction buffs when they get new books.

Anyone have any idea what they might be? The Orks at least have some fluff behind them to guess what the klans will get. But for Necrons dynasties? Will be new fluff.

>>54344261
Wyches with +1A combat drug bonus. Allows them to dish shit out. Leliath with +1S is pretty tasty too. Bikes with +1M to piss people off is pretty cool too.

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>>54344300
Sautekh
Mephrit
Novokh
Thokt

>>54344298
Wyches are 9ppm.. That's REALLY expensive, in a list where I don't really have the points..

>>54344300
Dunno. Hard to really apply anything to them. Each dynasty does different shit so I guess you could make shit up. Nihiliahk or w/e Trayzns is could have All That Glitters: -1 to target if there is more than 2 units within 6"? I dunno.

>>54344122
They don't need to speed up. A ricochet into soft armor is a very bad thing.

>>54344300
Xenos as a whole

Tau <Septs>, and there are also <Hive Fleets>
Of the xenos, what Tau and Necrons had themselves a subfaction in 7th?

>>54344334
Fucking hell, I don't remember this bit. Must have missed it. Somebodies OCDONUTSTEEL faction. Trayzn is the best guy, shame Sautekh is outright the best faction. Isn't Trayzn Nihilikh or whatever? Or is he Mephrit? What's the FW one?

>>54343914
Holy shit I didn't even think anybody saw this pic, let alone saved it.

>>54344363
Maynarkh is the FW one.

>>54344250
>Lets be honest its pretty morbid and amoral.
>>>/co/mblr

>>54344380
I have waited a very long time to use it. I am very thankful to whoever made it.

>>54344340
Marines arent wearing soft armour under those hoods anon. Theres another helmet and collar.

>>54344334
Based TSK

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>>54343394

>SoB not even mentioned in the start 40k book

fug

>>54344412
The collar doesn't protect a shell impacting the hood, above the head, and bouncing/gliding downwards into the soft neck armor.

>>54344271
Preheresy guy who was going to play 30k and jumped ship to 8th ed here with SM proxies here.

The metalic red is super simple.

>Base coat with Retributor armor (gold of some kind)
>Get Tamiya X-27 clear red and paint on the model.
>Don't worry about being neat, because it dries very rigidly, you are more likely to fuck it up trying to fidget around with it. If it looks like shit, just let it dry and do another layer
>Shade the red with carroburg crimson lightly to kill the ridiculous gloss.

>>54344411
Well, you're welcome, bud.

>>54344461
>soft neck armor
Retard

So then

<Dynasties>
Sautekh
Mephrit-Flayed Ones as troops
Novokh
Thokt-Praet buffs?

<Fleets>
Leviathan-hatred(marines)
Hydra-hatred(Tyranids) lel
Kraken
Behemoth

<Septs>
Tau'n
Vior'la-fire warriors buffed
Dal'yth
Ke'lshan-something to do with upgrades and support gear

Enclaves is more standalone dunno where to place that one

>>54343492
>go first
This is a maybe. Remember that when deep striking a unit you still need to 'deploy' them in reserve

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Ok I just got this for £120 did I do good?

anybody got SM dex leaks? it's already been delivered to VIP bloggers/podcasters

>>54344453
>start 40k book

Which one is that?
Did a new book come out with the Primaris stuff?

>>54344461
Theres already armour underneath that...you autists always rest on this magical occurance where projectiles don't lose speed and heatseek for a vulnerable point just because you think something looks silly.

>>54344282
Too white scars

>>54344495
>two Ahrimans
?

>>54344495
Bitch how,

>>54344495
Why two Ahrimans?

>>54344488
Bork'an sept, please

>>54344507
Sounds like you know more than us, leaks wont happen until store copies are delivered, so next weekend.

>>54344495
Yes

Best config for Skitarii?
Musketta men look fun, but don't wanna rec my buddy a suboptimal kit

>>54344541
eBay

>>54344488
I am sure Nihilakh Dynasty will get a <rule> since they have a special character. blahblah the infinite?

>>54343502
>aggressors don't shoot tactical nukes
DROPPPED. Is the Imperium even trying?

>>54344563
Trazyn?

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>>54344495
> 2 Ahriman

>>54344576
That guy, tho his rules sorta blow.

>>54344544

Dunno much about that one, lets look at a wiki
>The Poctroon were a xenos species that are notable for being the first sentient race to join the Tau Empire in 893.M37. However, within a few generations, disease destroyed the indigenous population. The Tau, who were immune to the plague, inherited the Poctroons' homeworld, renaming it Bork'an and turning it into a prime world.[1]

ayyy what the fuck

>>54344487
I think you're the retard anon, as the gaps in space marine armor is expressly covered by "soft armor". Such as their necks, armpits, elbows, hips, etc.

>>54344588
>>54344543
>>54344535
It was a lot on eBay I'm probably just gonna sell one

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Aside from a couple layers in certain places to fix blemishes, this bro I got today is complete.

>>54344563
Trazyn is part of no Dynasty.

>>54343460
>You know Calgar, this 'power fists with heavy bolters attached' thing you do isn't a bad idea.
>w- thank you my lord!
>I'm going to do that with like a hundred guys and put Cato Sicarus in charge of them
>...oh

>>54344605
The Gravis Captain has an Iron Halo. The armor is entirely irrelevant.

With the new DG models on green sprues, do I need to still basecoat if I plan on painting them DG green?

Is the typhus model metal or plastic?

>>54344624
You most certainly need to prime.

>>54344615
THIN
H
I
N

>>54344616
Bet he has a dynasty hidden in a cube somewhere

>>54344591
At least he's somewhat cheap.

>>54344616
Yes he is, he has Nihilakh as his faction.

>>54344625
Finecast

>>54344624
Yes.

>>54344625
Resin.

>>54344625
Resin. Moron, just check the GW site.

>>54344616
bruh..

> Faction Keywords NECRONS, NIHILAKH

>>54344605
Its a bullet proof layer.

>>54344594
uhh "oops"

>>54344010
>>54343985 #
>They are commandos when do guerrila fighters wear enclosed helmets. Its better to have your senses unhindered.
Space Marine helmets are stated to increase the wearer's senses far beyond the baseline. They're hindering their own awareness by not using them.

>>54344594
They have a fairly brutal history. IIRC the Sept is now renowned for its scholars and the tactical acumen of its soldiers.

>>54344631
>>54344639
What exactly is the point of colored plastic?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSxQnZ3TM8
4 years later m8s. Is Rountree our savior?

Good Raptors list?
Is sneakybeaking Grav-Cannons acceptable?

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Sorry for stupid questions, still pretty new and trying to figure stuff out. Any help is appreciated

What does Ghazghkull Thraka's Kustom Klaw cost? I can't find the point values for it in the book. I can find the stats for it just fine but not its cost.

What is the best 1 in 10 weapon that I can take for each set of boyz? Rokkit dudes seem pretty good but maybe the big shoota or flama would be better.

Should I give my nobs power klaws or big choppas? Does having a big choppa prevent the nob from firing his gun (since he is wielding a two handed weapon)? I really like the idea of having a weirdboy teleport a bunch of nobz into the enemies rear.

I'm just building my first army right now. I have 2 start collecting boxes + a box of boyz and Ghazghkull. Someone I know is planning on selling me some old boyz that he has so I don't think im going to lacking numbers. Should I be looking at something like a Gorkanaut as a center piece?

Lastly, any tips for painting? I'm pretty happy with how he turned out. My friend told me I should dry brush some rust onto the armour so i'm going to try that.

>>54344606
I'd keep em - do one on the disk and one on foot.

>>54344620
Interceptors and Aggressors don't, and Iron Halos fail eventually.

>>54344668
Bruh, just keep reading the index til u find ghazzy's wargear
Klaws

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>>54344615

Phoneposting closeup phone pictures make paint look thicker than it is. I just cant win with this thing.

>>54344662
So the two sides look different if you don't paint them.

>>54344685
>Interceptors
Fuck off, idiot.

>>54344668
We might be able to see him if you didn't have that fucking backlight

>>54344662
So kiddies can tell teams apart easily.

>>54344649
It can be pierced by knives or spear thrusts, it's not bulletproof.

>>54344698
>>54344702
Fair enough

>>54344668
Ghaz's wargear is included in his cost.

>>54344363
Trazyn belongs to no dynasty. He is an exile.

>>54344668
>Points per Model
>(includes wargear)
What is it like living with down syndrome?

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>>54344707
>knives
>spears
>bullets

>>54344707
The defence against knives and projectiles are two different things do you not understand this?

>>54344707
You can get through power armor gaps with a knife? Shit, how are Space Marines even alive?

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>>54343485
They have the devastator squad mark.

Actually a pain, my hs slots are premium in space.

Also is it just me or are primaris appearing to be designed from the ground up as ground war troops? Longer range weapons, no teleporters or boarders.

Terminators being the key example here. Mini marines still seem to be built better for doing actual space marine shit line storming the bridge of an enemy vessel or dropping hot lupercal style at the tip of the spear behind enemy lines.

New guys seem ideal for reinforcing ground wars, which is what they're for I guess

>>54344723
You do have to fight a marine in melee to do it.

>>54344668
Characters come with their wargear

Save Rokkits for tankbustas, they get good buffs

Big choppas are amazing. And no, they don't stop you from shooting. All models are assumed to switch weapons when they need to.

For Orks, just get the centerpiece model you think is coolest.

We can't really see your painting enough to give any feedback.

>>54344711
Thanks a bunch, did not see the fine print.

>>54344701
I'll try to take a better picture but I only really have my phone camera right now.

>>54344715
It's alright. You should probably talk to your therapist about the proper ways to start conversations with people.

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>>54343486
In getting pic related add as a vibe from aggressors. There's even a twin flamer firebat version.

>>intercessors more like long rifle wielding terran marines. Inceptors ate armored jet pack dudes with twin pistols.

If we're imitating imitations now, can cawl make me a space marine Viking?

>>54344769
Phone is fine, but the model needs to be lit so we can actually see him.

>>54344636
>>54344647

Then it's an issue of rules not representing the lore. Trazyn serves no dynasty as he is an exile.

>>54344811
It's been a century, who knows WHAT he's been up to.

>>54344668
love the "STOMP" on his boot. Is there anything on his other boot?

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>>54344782
>Viking
No but we have Goliath Dreadnoughts

Now that you mention it, the new infantry models do look quite a bit like Starcraft units in one way or another.

I don't mind.

>>54344824
Thats more a thor dreadnaught

>>54344782
>scout ghosts
>dread goliath
>knight thor
>wraith stormtalon
>land speeder hellion
>predator siege tank
cbf thinking more but all of these could work

>>54344851
I reckon the Goliath could be a Primaris Centurion

>>54344851
>Rip-off-ception

If GW and Blizzard continue this trend the universe is gonna implode soon, it can handle only so much rip-offs of rip-offs

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>>54344797
I tried to get him with a better background/better light.

>>54344823
Thanks! Yes there is. He has "Crush" written on his other boot. I want to put some more writing on his armour but I'm not entirely sure what to put. I'm open for any suggestions if you have any.

>>54344869
>goliath could be a primaris centurion
what is the marauder and the firebat, they are exactly what a centurion is

>>54344851
Buy a thunderhawk and go battlecruiser.

Space brick vs Space hammer

>>54344870
Ironic because blizzard is even more blatant about this then ever. A reaction to them having their own ip pilfrered by half a dozen companies.

2k 5CP
Supreme Command Detachment
Yvraine
Warlock Skyrunner, singing spear
Warlock

Vanguard Detachment: Ynnari
_
Autarch Skyrunner, x2 avenger shuriken catapults
Yncarne
_
x5 Wyches, agonizer, hydra gauntlet
Venom
x5 Wyches, agonizer, hydra gauntlet
Venom
_
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
x10 Shadow Spectres, exarch
_
x10 Scourges
x10 Scourges

I'm not sure if the wyches are optimal at all. Should I just drop the venoms and make them horded?

>>54344875
Do a "Ork goes 'ere" with an arrow pointing to where his arm goes into the powerclaw on his powerclaw

>>54344889
>thunderhawk battlecruiser
feel like it would be closer to a hercules, an armed one at that
also would a raven be tech heresy?
>Odin pattern siege titan
yay or nay?
>Banshee vulture

Any leaks on the Primaris flyer or points/rules from the new book?

Dying to see the new stuff like the Repulsor and the other Chapter Tactics.

>>54344916
Nope foot slogging is not your friend. Looks good to me now.

>>54344699
What the fuck do you think Interceptors are wearing? They have gravis armor dumbass.

>>54344879
>the firebat,
Literally OP >>54343394
Even has a twin heavy flamer variant

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So on a scale of marinelets to chadmarines, where do these guys fit in?

>>54344945
manlets that wear platform shoes.

>>54344717
>>54344720
Tier 3 body armor, which is capable of stopping rifle rounds, can stop a knife thrust.

Tier 2 body armor and lower, often "soft" armor like kevlar, is only good against small caliber rounds and can be pierced by a knife thrust.

>>54344945
Just let them die. They are vomit inducing

>>54344932
>Interceptors
Jesus, guy.

>>54344921
Sc1 had scout bikers complete with mines

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What should I get next for starting a 40k daemon army? I was thinking of having a bloodthirster and a loc for the main HQ. I hear blood crushers and bloodletters are both good. Is it worth paying the points for blue and brimstone horrors, or should I let them die pink? All I own now is nurgle shit from AOS, but I bought some horrors today

>>54344063
Its in the FAQ

>>54344970
you might want to invest in natural male enhancement pills

>>54344945
but they have +2 armor

>>54344977
What?

>>54344930
Hopefully it doesnt get shit on by my ultra competitive group that's jizzing all over the IG vulture

>>54344950
Space Marine Soft armor is the equivalent of carapace armor. And their skeletons are literally bullet proof. And their flesh, aside from being dense, is self knitting.

You aren't injuring a space marine with a knife, unless that knife is laced with some Deldar or Nurgle tier poison/flesh eating bacteria

>>54344950
You dont get it knife vs bullets requires two different solutions you can layer both solutions but not having one doesn't invalidate the other
>trying to use a real life tier system for 40k

>>54344769
>ask retarded question because can't read
>gets mad when people point it out

Why are you even here faggot? Stop being a hypersensitive loser and go with the flow or fuck off

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>>54343394
>Lame tiny missiles
>No cool shoulder cannons

Can't say I'm surprised. Primaris can't look cool to save their lives.

>>54343394
>they all have a stupid thing tied around their guts in the exact same spot
not really selling me on gravid armour, dudes

How many marine variants are we up to now?

>scouts
>marinelets
>assault marines
>termies
>centurions
>chadmarines
>inceptors
>dreads
>primaris dreads
>contemptor dreads

>>54344948
So they're RDJmarines?

>>54344954
Are they even covered in the new books? I don't play marines.

>>54344950
>manleapingfrompipeontoarmoredsoldierdies.gif

>>54345037
>not wanting a bone to cover your bone

>>54344990
Have those scourges all over that damn vulture.

>>54343559
I would seriously want at least a full unit, however big that ends up. That looks badass as fuck.

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>>54345043
He calls them marinelets

thinking about making a loyalist red thousand sons primaris army and using the 30k ahriman helmet on the primaris librarian..anybody wanna convince me this is a retarded idea? inb4 blood ravens because I'm not playing a vidya game chapter.

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>>54343413

>>54343394
I feel like I'd hate these less if their missile launchers were bigger and they didn't have retard level ammunition belts hanging in what is a mobility constricting way, honestly those belts are fucking hideous and make me want break these if I ever see some in person

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Fight my meme list faggots. What could you possibly bring to win against this?

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>>54344334
Here's hoping mephrit isn't total broken shit that gets nerfed or I get accused of being a waacfag for

>>54344950
You should be comparing Lvl 3 Armour with Lvl 3A armour you idiot, no one wears Lvl 2 anymore outside of limited small amounts of very very low profile undercover vests, and even then, IIIA is the standard for sub-rifle calibre threats.

New to 40k. Should I build a list based on points or power?

>>54345043
Why not dreadlets and chadnaughts

>>54345053
You're implying vulture as in singular

regardless thank you for your help, I'm clueless and new so making this list wasn't an easy feat.

>>54345073
>not 60 Multi-Meltas/10

>>54345035
Actually that is a good idea, i am going to convert their missiles to be Aggressors Cannons.

>>54345080
Points.

>>54345080
use points, makes the game more balanced as some units are terribly balanced power levels wise as either being too cheap or expensive, while points work out for a closer game

>>54345080
Depends on what your lgs uses. Points are more accurate if you can help it.

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>>54343676

>>54345087
But still, how do you deal with 3 50 girl blobs, buffed and loaded to the gills with heavy and special weapons?

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>>54343502
>They're literally mobile infantry suits from starship troopers

Not really. They don't have enough dakka, And no shoulder cannons. Clearly their suits aren't worth more then them.

>>54344668
Boyz can't take burnas
For some reason

>>54343394
So what is the point of the hood in the Gravis armor? I like them in the Inceptors because they close for Atmospheric entries, but what is even the point of the Gravis armor?

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>>54343676
Right now I have a lot of basic stuff, mostly a decent set of MDF buildings and a few can based industrial pieces I slapped together. I want to go about building 2x2 tiles for a full table at some point, probably with options for a bridge over a gulf like >>54343879 has. I'd want to make something that feels like my GSC's mining world, 1/3 very industrial, reaching out to an expanse of rocky terrain, likely with the option I mentioned for a radioactive river through it. Build one wide metal bridge, allows for traditional hills along with industrial fortifications and ruins, and fits the look of one of my armies. Who knows if I'll actually get around to making it though, I haven't even detailed the stuff I have now in preparation to paint it.

I fucking hate power points, which is all cunts at my local place do because they play elite armies so get all that extra free shit. Fucking bullshit.

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Would you recommend running a lord of change with the wand thing alongside a bloodthirster (btw, which is best?)

>>54345112
nice

>>54344668
>>54345120
As far as silly looking human mounted missile batteries are, I would have thought we'd see them on Orks first.

>>54345077
I run Nihiakh necrons. I have the same worry, or the opposite, that its total aids and have to run another faction with the wrong paint scheme.

>>54345141
Technically not free: Power Points are generally priced assuming you'll kit out the unit for maximum effectiveness

>>54344080
People want and army they can paint tonight and field tomorrow. Of course they're out of stock.

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>>54345158