Yabba dabba doo

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Adam Westvers

>>54343191
Could be worse

>>54343193
WHY ARE THEY ALL UNHELMETED

>>54343191
Not terrible

>>54343193
please tell me that grappling hook is a shop

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>>54343193

Battle Brother Tyrone Lashawnda

>>54343193
>Grappling hook
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAhahahahahhahahahaahahhaahahahaAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAaahhhhhhhhhhAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
We full saturday morning cartoons now.

Also I feel like those aggressors were made because centurions sell like shit so they took the same general idea and slapped it together.

>>54343213

There's a unfired one in the front row, far left, so that'd be a pretty intricate and well thought out shop.

So these are the finest miniatures in the world. Wow. Though you have to concede that the Aggressors look better than Centurions.

I like them though Im not sold on them, waiting for the Dreadnought to arrive.

>>54343193
Bruh, look at this dude... LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD

>>54343193
>that fucking grappling gun

>>54343193

>That grappling hook
LOL
O
L

>Fire the noodle Brother xxOneShotxx

>>54343213

Yes it's a shop. The gun isn't but the chain and hook are.

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>>54343193

>>54343191
Fleenstones?

>>54343290
>the gun isn't

The gun has a grappling line reel-in wheel.

>>54343291

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enMReCEcHiM

Just give me my new Death Guard you fucking jews

>>54343191
Finally, a primaris marine box I might get outside the basic NOT!Tacticals

>>54343193
These look a lot better than the easy-to-assemble too.

>>54343193
I can not get over how retarded those masks look.

Gravis Armor, Powerfist, Cyclone Missile Launcher, two heavy bolters. 100+ points a model, no thanks.

>>54343360

Centurions didn't have PFs

>>54343191
Why do those bolters have a drum mag AND a belt feed?
Do they get multiple ammo types?

>>54343382
The drums are just a loading hopper between the belt and the chamber

>An Aggressor Squad is a Primaris Space Marine unit, that is equipped with shoulder mounted missle racks, that are reloaded from internal armour stores located within the Agressors’ Gravis power armour. They also wield Flame Gauntlets, that billow forth burning promethium.

>>54343456

>beltfed flamers

>>54343456
Lel. They give poor Haley the wrong memo? Even if there's optional flamers, those missile racks definitely don't reload

>>54343193
Reivers are just initiates right? Perhaps that could explain why their not wearing helmets.

>>54343456
>even GW doesn't know what the fuck they're doing
can't make this shit up

>>54343507
there are probably optional wargear options.

>>54343373
Maybe, they look like deliberate powerfist to me. It also looks like they have Intercessor helmets and jet packs as well to me. These dudes might be 400 points for 3.

>>54343382

It's 40k, don't read too far into the physics because in the end it's just rule of cool space fantasy

>>54343512
How does that make any fucking sense? Are they on some sort of helmet ration?

>>54343860
budget cuts

Is there a link on these or?

aggressors and reivers, holy edge core. these are derp models with derp names.

>>54343243
Anon, the Primaris dread has already been out for atleast a couple of weeks.

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>>54343211

so they can wear sick CoD masks, duh

>>54344885
The ten-man squad has been that expensive for years fucktard.

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>>54343191
so how do I convert them to this?

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>>54345784

GW has been shit for years m8, when I got out $35 for ten muhreenz was considered outrageous

>>54346089
What the fuck is that monster? i want to hit it with a powerfist

>>54346229
It's a cosplay of the Elfe (Kerillian the waywatcher) in Vermintide I think.

>>54343231
>Also I feel like those aggressors were made because centurions sell like shit so they took the same general idea and slapped it together.

Maybe Centurions would sell better if they weren't 20 bucks a fucking model.

>>54343191
when are this things to be released, i want to know what the fac is the Gravis armor and the function of that fucking hood.

>>54343231
>centurions sell like shit
I thought a good number of people used a lot of Centurions Devastator with Grav cannons, when they were released

>>54343191
How many redundant units do spacemarines actually need to play this game?

What possible niche is missing?

>>54346294
The niche that hasn't gotten your money yet, naturally.

I'm with >>54343324
Just make with the Death Guard already. I was happy with the pre-existing Space Marine range, which already outpaced every other game faction into phasing out resin and metal.

Update the guys using 20 year old metal models instead of more Marine redundancy.

>>54346294
100% sure they actually ran out of ideas for SM and introduced primaris to resell us the same army with a slightly altered aesthetic.

We are gonna see a lot of their kit get phased out over time to minimize negative publicity.

>>54346294
The "give us more money" niche.

Sort of like the Stormsurge and Ghostkeel. And Riptide, arguably.

>>54343193
SNAKE TRY TO REMEMBER THE BASICS OF CQC

>>54343193
That grappling hook guy is gonna be a bitch to store.

>>54346294
plastic techmarines

of course now we'll never get them since everything's going to be a primeme

>>54346375
Fuck store, imagine getting it TO a store.

Imagine fucking playing it!

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>>54343193
Marvel predicted this

>>54346398

First Tau ships in Venom and now bolt pistols in Spider-Man. What the fuck Mravel

>>54346552
They want to buy 40k and add it to their empire.

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>>54343191
Is that Primaris in Primaris marines?
>>54343193
Sons, I'am...

>>54343193

Fuck man I wanted to paint Blood Ravens but these dudes would make perfect Carcharadons

>>54346552
Ask /co about marvels artists, if they arn't Islamic activists they trace the first thing they find off of google.

>>54343231
>centurions sell like shit
People didn't buy them actually?

>>54346350
>Knocking the keel
Nah, get out

>>54343191
I kinda like these. When they out?

>>54343193
at first I thought the grappling hook was shopped

oh boy

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>>54346876

My first thought.

>>54346350
I genuinely hate the look of the Tau, and I still think the Ghostkeel looks cool.

>>54346398
Mike McKone, you're better than this.

>>54343193
The guy without the mask actually looks cool.

>>54343191
We firebats now.

>>54343191
BWAHAHAHA, they really looks like cartton show

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>>54343417
This. It's like pic related, just with a slot on it to see the belt.

>>54343193
>not all of them have identical equipment
>large unit size

And people were adamant that Primaris were gonna be small elite units with Legion style "one type of equipment for the whole unit."

>>54347329
So wasn't the only one? I had tought somebody scribbled in a line in paint to point this guy out.

>>54343191
So, there's probably no chance of getting to use a gravis armour without the fist and bolt weapon...

I had plans on converting the DI one into a gravis armoured librarian (once we got rules for them) with the sword arm and a pistol arm from another model, and using the fist on a different model as a power fist and pistol combo.

>>54343193
The grappling hooks are for pulling big things down, not them up, r-right?
>>54346552
Marvel is owned by disney, don't you forget. And good fucking luck trying to sue disney. Not even the devil himself wants to get involved in the mouse's shit.

>>54343191
Pretty good. The ammo feed loos great and the launcher on top the hood of the Gravis looks a lot less stupid.
Gameplay wise I could also see use for them. Twin boltstorm gauntlets make them fairly nasty up close and with the missiles (I assume) they have something to do while getting there. The big question will be: Two or three wounds? The Gravis-Captain does not have more wounds than a Terminator-Captain, despite being primaris, so I assume these will also have W2?
>>54343193
>no helmets
Nope. Not interested unless there are ten full helmets in the box as well. Otherwise they would be reasonable.
Also, thet grapple looks silly and shooped in.

>>54347508
>Nope. Not interested unless there are ten full helmets in the box as well.
well don't you have leftover helmets to give them? sure isn't going to kill you to do a bit of a personalization.

...well, that was a brief interlude of believing gw could do space marines who weren't covered in bling well. truly, it makes you sad to realise just how sensible terminator and centurion armours look by comparison to these knock-kneed, top-heavy fuckups.

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>>54343193
TACTICAL NUKE INCOMING

>>54347529
Well, no, I don't have ten mkX-pattern skull-faced helmets lying around.

>>54346574
>Disney owns a fucking STAR WARS
>for some reason want to add such dwarf as 40k

>>54347478
>The grappling hooks are for pulling big things down, not them up, r-right?

They're so they can aim them up at large things like a Carnifex, then zip up right in its face and blast it with their REEEEEEEEEEEE masks.

>>54347561
i am pretty sure even if they aren't skull faced the helmet will slot into the miniature

>>54347478
>The grappling hooks are for pulling big things down, not them up, r-right?

HAHA.
No. That's what they get to do double duty as NuScouts and NuAssualts.
Besides, they need to go Rooftop to Rooftop, they're too big for indoors fighting.

>>54347592
Sure, but I doubt it will look any good. I've tried to fit a mkVII helmet on a Intercessor and it looked like garbage.

>>54347614

You're missing the big picture. Marines now have a way to bypass stairs.

>>54343191
Still prefer actual terminators
>>54343193
Now this is something I love.

>>54347640
>thinking anyone would abandon terminators for gravis

>>54347640
>Still prefer actual terminators
Those are the Primaris devastator famalam.

Terminators are still comming.

>>54347640
the top backpack can be either missiles, a big lascan, plasma or melta.
Its a devastator squad, not terminator

>>54347650
Hellblasters are the Primaris Devastators.

Not even joking I thought they were command squads/special weapon squads but GW's text describes them as heavy weapons support like Devastators. Aggressors seem to be Centurions.

>>54347685
>Centurions
Yeah can't unsee now. Thats it.

>>54347634
They always have.
Jump Packs. Teleporters. Land Speeders. Depending on edition/timeframe/Sammael, Jetbikes.

Hell, they could even conceivably be Fastball Specialed by a Dreadnought.

>>54347640
>>54347645
I'm curious what their niche will be. With two powerfists and six boltpistol shots per guy they are obviously not bad in melee, but against things which I need fists I doubt the pistols will do much and vice versa. Plus the missile launcher implies range, but everything else is up close.
Jack of all trades is never a good niche to be in outside of Lord of War options.

>>54347650
Well I thought since captain in Dark Imperium had this armor, and now this, that this wil be new termis. Guess I was wrong.

>>54343191
Wait, I thought that the aggressors would have heavy flame gauntlets, like vulkan from the salamanders

>>54347783
the imperium captain as a gravis because as oppose to Marinelets Artificier.

>>54347794
Multi. Part. Plastic. Kit

>>54343291
Inspired by Kevin Smith.

Reivers look so tacticool.
If I remember there will be bolters for them.

>>54343193
Are those some sort of butchers nails thingys that they have?

>>54343191

Ok any drawfag here? Please paint Primaris Aggressors as Angry Marine.

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>>54343191
I never thought GW would make the Centurion Armor look cool in comparison to something. Joke's on me I guess.

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>>54343191
>>54343193
I'm way out of the loop since Guilliman became Emperor or whatever. What are these guys?

>>54347945
Super space marines.

>>54347939
Don't kid yourself, they look much better than the centurions

>>54347945
Very briefly; before he was injured badly and spent 10,000 years in stasis, Guilliman charged a tech-magos named Cawl with improving space marines.

Cawl has laboured for 10 millennia to produce Primaris Marines; essentially Astartes 2.0. They are slightly bigger, slightly stronger and he has made similar incremental improvements to their armour (Mk X power armour) and their bolters (now Cawl-pattern bolt rifles).

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>new badass chaplain
>apothecary character
>Buzz lightyears with plasma and new helmets

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Christ, I don't even collect Marines but whilst the Reivers don't look bad, I'm worried for the future of the Adeptus Astartes.

I sincerely hope they don't phase out the current range, and leave us with a load of rather plain but bizzare "big Marines for kidz™". I grew up with chapters of Terminators, Predators, Tactical Marines etc., not some weird mix of mech suits that generally come armed with the most ridiculous shit. I guess it appeases the autists that buy units for rules not aesthetics, they get the instant satisfaction of rolling 20 dice each shooting phase with their new £40 plastic pieces.

And I don't think they have enough experienced staff in the Design Studio to even make a decent go at it. Lot of interns and newer people on lower wages now, compared to the days where they actually competed with places like Blizzard Studios to keep Andy Chambers for a bit longer.

>>54348010
GW has been on point with the characters but floundered with all the troops that aren't Intercissors. However, those new helmets for the flying fucks are cool.

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>>54347959
I'll take decent looking missile tits over whatever pea shooter missiles those are on their shoulders. Or just old school Cyclones because they still look rad and not completely anemic.

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daily reminder that games workshop has lost its fucking mind and there are better games out there

>>54346398
why the fuck does a grappling hook gun have a magazine

>>54348010

I never hated the Aggressors other than their dumb super wide power fists, but that sergeant looks super badass from that angle.

>>54348060

Can't you just make a Terminator with dual power fists, glue dreadnought flamers to them, and put a CML on his back and have an Aggressor.

>>54348010
If the Primaris are such cool capable guys, why did they tactically let those daemon infected turds get that close to their apparently worthless firing line?

>>54347508
I'm positive that the box has bare and helmeted heads in it. GW would not just give two snapfit models the helmets.

This would also means I don't need to buy the snapfit box to get some some of those skull helmets. I needs them, man!

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FUCK YOU GW MAKING BADASS CHAPLAIN MODEL RIGHT AFTER I FORK OUT MONEY ON EBAY FOR YOUR STUPID RETARDED EXCLUSIVE SUPER JEW MONEY GRAB TERMINATOR CHAPLAIN

>>54348095
there were a billion of them

I have always disliked Imperial models but the last few months worth make me want to puke. Do you actually like them /tg/ or are you just memeing?

>>54348063
>better games out there
>pic unrelated

A game needs players to be an actual good game.

>>54343231
I thought they looked a bit like the original terminators.

>>54348095
If you don't let them get close how are you ever going to show off your cool new chapter tactic?

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>>54348094
I'd rather slice off those crap dispensers and replace them like people do with Cyclone wips

Looks like the Interceptors have their closed visors.

>>54348010
>marinelets
>at the back
>where they belong

Is the DI Gravis captain an anomaly, or will we actually see Gravis as an option for characters? I've wanted to turn the DI model into a librarian. Or should I just get some spare Aggressor bits and turn him into a sergeant for the unit?

>>54348010
Marinelets sitting in the back of the bus, WHERE THEY BELONG

>>54348010
>nasa dropmen with closed helmet
neat

the apothecary looks underrated there

>40kkids now unironically using "badass" word
top kek

>>54346294
Space Marines with vaginas and boobs.

>>54348010
Chaplain joins the the Libby as pretty much the only Primaris models I like so far.

That statue is the Truest Scale Marine of them all, despite his glaring mold line.

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>>54348114

It is sad, isn't it. Stockholm syndrome I think, people can't play anything other than 40k, especially Americans who live 200 miles from the nearest LGS and can't get a game of anything else.

Even going back to Adeptus Mechanicus, that release was pretty fucking disappointing really, after years of hype. They just don't have the creative staff any more, and the directives always come from above, no more "cool side project gets turned into a game".

>>54348108
>Pimp cane instead of crozius.

>>54348143
Sorry, the last 2 uses were both me.

>>54343213
You're now feeling what I felt, as a near thirty year player, the first time I saw a box with motion/gunfire shooped in to the box art.

>>54348114
I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot barge pole myself but know those who do.

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>Those Primaris proudly stand in gallant unison to fire their missile battery
>This guy saunters up to take a piss, then leaves

>>54348114
There's some that i don't really mind like the standard Primaris, their new grav tank if they drop some of the clutter, and the Command units barring Guilliman.

>>54348114
>>54348167
>stop liking what I objectively don't like

Now they're just getting silly.

>>54348114
>>54348167
>two ugly fat dyke SJWs talking about how sad fit and attractive people are for liking the opposite gender

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>>54343221
Thats war paint...

You know, one of the reasons I overall like the new primaris, despite the design flaws, is that they offer size variability between the space marines

no more "space marines are THIS tall", I can have both huge marines and rogue trader era aesthetic slimarines.

>>54348167
I have decided to make a John Blanche army to pay hommage to a time before nudubs.

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>>54348124
be the change you want to see in the world

>>54346294
Just you wait, the Primaris will get specialized, not totally redundant but slightly larger fast attack dirt bikes.

>>54348204
He needs to thin his warpaint because it's rising off the back of his head.

>>54348209
The size is good but they look bland and poorly posed or balanced.

>>54348220
>dirt

only marinelets have their bikes touch the filth
true marines will have grav bikes

>>54348199
>anon asks "do you guys really like it?"
>hurrr stop talking bad about brilliant miniatures

>>54348201
>>54348199

Aha, have fun playing 40k with little kids and weird middle-aged men that haven't found the local wargaming club for some reason.

NuGW is fundamentally flawed, there's no real creative impetus like there was even 20 years ago.

>>54348240
True chad-marines have their lesser brethren hauling their bikes over their shoulders, palanquin style.

>Primaris Ancients
How is this a thing?

>>54348063
Daily reminder CriticalHit the TAG Remover Cheerleader edition is not good game either

>>54348240
>true marines will have grav bikes
>generic sci-fi supersoldiers
>true marines

>>54348260
I asked this to a GW manager and he asked me to leave.

>>54348204
Those are head tubes

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>>54348228
>bland
I'm not sure I agree with that adjective, because I find the most plain primarines to be also the best ones

but I see what you're saying looking at the jump primaris and the fistguys

>>54343191
Kinda like them, they didn't needed a schlong protector but seems easily removable. Could look good with a Silver Skulls paint.
>>54343193
No helmet for all, no buy.

>>54348260
Ancient means banner holder.

Primaris Anicents are basically guys outside a car wash flipping a sign that says "Big Bob Big Blue Boltriflers"

>>54348260
>>54348276
Ancient is a title for a dude that hold the flag, not an actual designation of age...

>>54348255
>weird middle-aged men
>20 years ago

What did he mean by this?

Why put the power fists on the ground infantry? wouldnt it make more sense to give the Inceptors the PF's and the Agressors the plasma cannon pistols? Like, they are already walking missile platforms. Why not cement their role as a fire support squad with more long ranged firepower? Some decisions are just goofy in my opinion.

>>54348010
Chad marines in front, bitchboys in the back

>>54348260
what's wrong with it

I didn't keep up with the fluff but I thought it was supposed to be an uplifted marinelet hero with the job of keeping traditions and banners.
is he not?

>>54348248
Where did he say they were brilliant?

>>54348287
Sorry, I should have made it more clear that I believe all imperial space marines are bland but more so for the new ones for lack of converting capabilities. Personally I bought them for my true-scale world eaters but haven't found a proper primarus army I like.

>>54348248
>strawmanning this hard

>>54348255
>GW has been shit for decades
>but NOW they're REALLY shit
>honest

Yes, I've had fun playing with kids and weird middle-aged men for two decades now, and they're all at the club. I don't need to be an elitist prick when choosing my opponent.

>>54348330
>not knowing about brilliant miniatures
Well, nu-GW audience, you should keep them in your general guys

I think IG are boring and the Primaris Dreadnought is ugly as fuck but I don't make dumb posts asking why people like them. What drives these faggots to shitpost so hard? Their own insecurity due to knowing they have shit tastes unlike the vast majority of sensible people?

>>54348337
fair enough

good luck with your army

>>54348338
>having standarts now means elitism

>>54348357
>he's so mad his Infinishit never ever has more than a single deserted thread at a time that he just keeps sperging out about nu- people and muh FLGS

>>54346229
>silly lumberfoot

>>54348362
Thank you and best of luck with yours.

>>54348371
>standarts

Pretty low ones, apparently.'

>>54348337
>loyalists are bland as fuck it's just aquila aquila aquila blank spaces
>replacing the aquila with horns and filling all the blank spaces with the same arrows and spiky trim is much more sophisticated

>>54348373
>his Infinishit
Nigger please, I'am X-wing player.
>has more than a single deserted thread
>implying popularity means anything good by default
Yeah whatever, enjoy your 8+ game

>>54348406
>says the person who paints with pre-painted toys and trading cards

>>54348406

Then stay in your X-Wing thread fuckboy, why do you even wander into random threads unrelated to any of your interests? Just to shitpost or because you're that mentally retarded? Oh wait it's the same shit.

Oh wait, you have even less threads and posts than the Infinity crowd. Go back to your 2 post count general, faggot.

>>54348427
>40kkid talking about toys
>meanwhile >>54348010

>>54348443

Meanwhile what? Models you have to put together and assemble? You literally take X-Wing figures out of plastic trays like a toddler's toy.

>>54348443
>>54348406
>X-fag thinks people only play 40k because they "don't know about" or "nobody plays" other games

Nigger X-Wing is the highest selling and most popular game behind 40K. The people that choose to play 40K or something even less popular like AoS or Warmahordes probably choose NOT to play X-Wing despite it likely outnumbering their game at the local store.

>>54348438
>Go back to your 2 post count general, faggot.
Make me, kid.
>Oh wait, you have even less threads and posts
Still better than most of Warhammer generals filled with shitposts

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POO POO
PEE PEE
GIVE ME MY DEATH GUARD PLEASE

>>54348010
So does this mean no multi-part tac squad? They keep showing the guys from the starter set...

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>>54348394
I'm not sure if you want to engage in a proper conversation or not but if you do then I shall.

Personally I prefer chaos over imperium because the chaos have less restrictions fluff wise and have more variation with modeling. An example is a chosen of mine which I think is more interesting than a standard devastator because I had more freedom in designing it.

>>54348371
>discriminates against groups rather than individual people

>>54348468
>>X-fag thinks people only play 40k because they "don't know about" or "nobody plays" other games
COuld you please, show me the post where I said anything like it?
>behind 40K.
Do you realise how cheap X-wing comparing to 40k right?

>>54348497
That's what standarts means

>>54348338

>not wanting to play trash games is elitism

Aha

>>54348478
Presumably because they have those already lying around. There's no way we won't get a seperate kit for those.

>>54348513
That has nothing to do with what was said, but thanks for playing.

>>54348453
>Meanwhile what?
Meanwhile GW releasing only toys (since they don't fit 32-scale), who looks like cartoon super-heroes vs. mutants.

>>54348503
Do give an example of this definition.

>>54348406
>X-wing
>the game that cucks you into buying models from other factions just to get the upgrade card

FFG fanboys make GW fanboys seem frugal and responsible.

Is there stats out there for the reivers yet?

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>>54343193
>in 40k
>grappling hook still exist

>>54348551
>>the game that cucks you into buying models from other factions just to get the Trrops Infantry
So perfect definition of Eldar army for 40k?
>>54348567
Hey, all popular superheroes and supersoldiers use them.

>>54348567
>in 40k
>tanks with treads still exist
woah...

>>54348541
>since they don't fit 32-scale
thats probably because they're 28mm scale.

>>54348582
>So perfect definition of Eldar army for 40k?
no. eldar armies didn't and now can't do that.

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>>54348567
if giant alien squidfaces can use them, why not the primarch's finest?

>>54343360
Those look more like Boltstorm gauntlets.

>people actually buy into the cycle of new big kits, getting bored and selling cheap before buying new kits at full RRP

See it at our club too, man people are easily parted from their money.

>>54348148
>what are sister of battle and silence ?

>>54348667
Don't know why hoppers like that would even waste money on new releases if they know for a fact it's just going to happen again the next time they hop. Only reason I even buy this shit is because I know it's permanent and I will be keeping them forever and painting/playing with them for years.

Otherwise if you hop that easily it's no different than paying hundreds for pixels on an online game, that you're going to quit eventually too.

>>54348645
>no. eldar armies didn't and now can't do that.
You mean they cannot convert aspect warriors (who will never get plastic update) from Dark Eldar units anymore?

>>54348683
not space marines

>>54343373
But the Gravis captain has, and he has that same fist with a small bolter attached to it setup.

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>>54348552
Yeah, but they are nothing special. Maybe the grapples will enable them to overcome their biggest issue, i.e. actually getting close.

>>54348757
Didn't some rumour say they'd be getting something like grav-chute insertion, where they deep strike onto the table or something?

>>54348219
Infiniti is shit - it's done by stupid spaniard and his gay painter lover. Sure minis look great if you can paint them that good. GW makes minis that a non proffesional can paint in decent way - infiniti is for cooks and involves 10 time more terrain then 40K - take your pedotendencies elswhere bich

>>54348780
Well, yes. But they don't actually get that. The GW facebook also said that if you want them to get close you'll need to invest in a Repulsor.

>>54348063
Why do infinityfags think their models look good. That looks like over-detailed generic sci fi garbage.

>>54348063
>daily reminder that games workshop has lost its fucking mind and there are better games out there

chubby plastic robot-toys with cheesy missile racks

vs

Generic skinny weebshit scifi soldiers.

>>54348804
>Sure minis look great if you can paint them that good
As someone who painted a lot of different models (from Dust to Knight models, shit I even paint my Talisman and Doom models) Infinity is pretty easy to paint for game, because models doesn't have a lot of empty space where you should imitate light effects (like with Space Marines pauldrons, as example) and there is much more ways to improve how they looking through different painting techniques, unlike NMM for 40k.

>>54348858
>imitate light effects

I'm going to tell you this right now, 99.9% of 40k painters don't do blends, and the 0.1% that do, just do it with an airbrush.

>>54348757

Kinda unimpressed. The Shock Grenades are rather shiny (But I tend to overvalue stuff like that due to being a SOB player. Flamers make you love overwatch) but they look kinda...eh? otherwise. Seraphim can at least get into pistol range reliably.

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>>54348856
>Generic skinny weebshit scifi soldiers.
Looks who is talking about generic sci-fi

>>54348863
>99.9% of 40k painters don't do blends
But then most of 40k models will look much uglier than a lot of models (not only Infinity, but also Knight and Malifaux).

>>54348871
>complains about 40k generic
>posts super unique looking supersoldier seen no-where else in sci fi except franchises that have ripped off GW.

>>54348871
>purity seal
>retarded ass kneepad trim
>knight visor grille
>generic sci-fi

What did he mean by this.

>>54348804
>infiniti is for cooks and involves 10 time more terrain then 40K

I love making fun of Infinity but playing 40k on open tables is most of what makes 40k an exercise in placing models on the table in densely packed formations then removing them from the table, only now in 8th (since cover is meaningless) you can just remove your army more quickly, or watch the other guy remove his army more quickly and go home, rather than drag out the experience.

>>54348871
>Looks who is talking about generic sci-fi

Makes fun of the guy making fun of both 40k and Infinity for not making fun of 40k

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>>54348884
>unique looking supersoldier
top kek
>sci-fi franchises
>ripping off GW
You mean who?
>>54348885
>implying it doesn't look like new Doomguy

>>54348871
RIP AND TEAR

>>54348911

It looks nothing like Doom 4 Doomguy. He looks more like Metroid Zero Mission Marines or Warframe.

>>54348869
That's kinda the main complaint leveled at them. Their melee is meh, their pistols are semi-decent and the shock grenades are pretty good. But with very short range, mediocre movement and no deployment options there is just no way to get them where they could disrupt enemy lines in a meaningful manner before the rest of your forces arrive.
Inceptors make better harassers, hellblasters are a better choice for a transport and Intercessors are at least a troops slot and can contribute from turn one. And I'm damn sure Agressors will be way better fighters.

>>54348928
>It looks nothing like Doom 4 Doomguy.
>>54348914

>>54348937
>>54348911

The helmet was modified.

>>54348933

Yeah, they feel like they need jump packs or infiltration or something with that weapon loadout. Something to actually get them to the fight. I was really expecting to see them be infiltrators.

I know it's unlikely but I'd love to see Seraphim get Heavy Bolt Pistols. It would be a minor improvement in power but a serious improvement in adding some flair to the unit/making it more interesting. I doubt we'll see these new bolt weapons outside of Primarines though.

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>>54348911
You're mentally retarded if you think any iteration of power armor looks like Mjolner or Doomguy's suit.

40K power armor is directly inspired by medieval plate armor, which isn't surprising as GW is a Euro company within a hop skip and a jump of the Tower of London. Power armor is mostly just a suit of medieval armor, bloated in size with some unique forms of helms or decorations.

In the realm of science fiction this is incredibly unique, because most writers don't even have a fucking clue what a couter or poleyn is.

>>54348995
The heavy bolt pistol looks like a cut down bolter, so I doubt even a regular marine can effectively dual-wield them.

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>>54349020
>40K power armor is directly inspired by medieval plate armor,
Then where is any medieval elements on your picture (notice, unlike my picture, your picture is official art)?
>, which isn't surprising as GW is a Euro company within a hop skip and a jump of the Tower of London.
Actually, nope, it's very surprising for UK and something near London especially.
>this is incredibly unique
Except anime

>>54349041

Yeah, I was honestly expecting them to be 'Bolt Carbine' or something when I saw the model initially. It looks more like an SMG than a pistol.

As I said, I wasn't really expecting to see it. I rather love SMGs/Machine Pistols in fiction.

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>>54349020
Mjölnir is also inspired by medieval armour mixed with modern battle tanks.

I read somewhere that the original inspiration for the SM backpack was the Roman legion backpack. The exhaust on top being the rolled up bedroll, etc.

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>>54349020
Nowhere is this more notable with the original warhammer space marine, the beakie, who wears a hounskull helmet pretty much unseen in all sci fi.

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>>54349054
>big pauldrons
>tassets (MkVIII and X, some custom suits)
>couters
>ventilated helmet (MkII, III, IV and X)
>gauntlets (MkII and CSM)

>>54349072
That came out of the Chapterhouse Studios depositions, when Games Workshop was trying to claim that their shit was totally unique and in no way derivative of anybody else's prior art. I don't believe that they said it was a Roman backpack, specifically, because tying bedrolls to the top of a soldier's pack has been a thing for pretty much ever.

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>>54349078
Not to forget the Great Helm style of the MkII and III.

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>>54349054
>Then where is any medieval elements on your picture (notice, unlike my picture, your picture is official art)?
Plate armor is quite literally my bread and butter. Well butter, because it's pleasure and not business. Regardless power armor generally bears close similarity with medieval armor besides the helmets (of which Aquila looks the worst, beaky4life) whereas most sci fi opts for... some really fucking stupid looking shit.

>Except anime
That looks nothing like medieval armor besides the legs. Nevermind GW predates gundam.

>>54349132
GW really gets me going with how they have such an attention to detail that they actually put the vox grille (breathes) on MK III breaches on one side of the helmet, which in medieval helmets was done to strengthen the side you expected to get hit. So the left side of your bascinet or armet may not have any breathes on it because you expected that to be the spot where you would tank land blows or crossbow bolts.

>>54349054
>>54349020

just a brief interjection, London and Nottingham arne't exactly "near" one another
It does have its own museum, castle and armoury etc though
Also H&K UK were based there (now NSAF Ltd) I went to one of their open days years ago, I'd be shocked if no one at GW went too

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>>54349072
>Mjölnir is also inspired by medieval armour

Pretty sure it was BMX protective gear.

>>54349152
I live in California. The distance between Nottingham and London is pitiful compared to the distances here, especially with non-shitty public transportation. Your trains are actually nice, BART meanwhile smells like piss and has drug addicts shooting up in the tail cars.

>>54349156
I remember reading a developer interview way back in the day, where they said they wanted to make master chief a medieval knight dressed in a modern MBT.

>>54348114
I'm 50/50. I like a bunch of the Primaris stuff and I think that a bunch of it looks like overdesigned garbage. It's typical for a GW release.

>>54349195

The Primaris stuff looks decent in a lot of cases. My only real issues are that 'Some units feel like another unit+' (The Reivers look nice because they are not really an assault marine replacement for example, even if I'm not a huge fan of the masks) and a bit of 'While working on this, they are not working on stuff for armies with much smaller ranges'.

But that's the nature of the iconic faction, they get the most shinies.

>>54349170
oh sure, my point really was that it's the best part of a three hour drive. Not something you put yourself through when you can literally walk to an actual castle full of weapons and armour in 20 minutes.

>>54348694
I thought you were talking rules wise.

yes of course conversions are fine, thats a core part of 40k. But its not required for eldar troops.

>>54349178
wasn't that the earlier, unreleased halo, where spartans had swords and stuff?

>>54349116
>>54349141
>>big pauldrons
>medieval
Pick one
>>ventilated helmet
Was scifi/space opera thing since stormtroopers
>pipboy
>More of a polish XVI style lower canon
Top kek
>That looks nothing like medieval armor besides the legs.
But looks exactly like Space Marines, except head
>Nevermind GW predates gundam.
Wrong, google it
Meanwhike is there any real medieval armor which looks like 40k power armor?

>>54349214
I like their basic infantry stuff. It's slick and makes for easy kitbashing opportunities.

>>54349284

They look nice, they just run into that first issue of mine. I don't really like units that just feel like they are another unit scaled up to primaris size. I'd have liked a basic weapon a bit more distinctive than a -1 AP bolter for them. Like if they'd gotten shorter range, more shots SMGs or something I'd have been all behind them.

>>54349276
Also, medieval and antiquity inspiration was a thing since Dune and Darth Vader
Sorry for my phoneposting

>>54349195
Most of the characters sans the gravis captain look good and the Intercessors and Hellblasters look quite good too.

Reivers are on the border of being good, marred by their helmets (an lack thereof) and those dorky shin guards.

Agressors, Inceptors and the new tank just look awkward and the gravis captain and Dreadnought look like utter shite.

>>54349020
Actually, the Space Marine armour design was inspired by Warhammer Fantasy Battles Chaos Warriors.

>>54349276
>Wrong, google it

GW: 1975
Gundam: 1979

>>54349252
>literally walk to an actual castle full of weapons and armour in 20 minutes.
....fuck you brits

>>54349337
And Warhammer 40k?

>>54346552
Are you seriously bitching?
This has me tickled pink, someone on the spidey team likes 40k and enjoys sneaking in references.
Back in the day, it would have been lauded as a stealth homage. Now, nofunallowed cunts like >>54346930 exist.

>>54349337
Rogue Trader is from 1987 though.

>>54349352
Nobody said 40k.

>>54345972
This is Primach Pauldronius' legion anon
They are scouts btw

>>54349310
I don't mind them. I prefer their proportions over the regular Space Marines that has the proportions of monkeys. I kind regret buying all those plastic 30k Marines now.

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>>54349276
>Meanwhike is there any real medieval armor which looks like 40k power armor?

Are you deliberately retarded?

Can you not think of any armor that inspired this?

>>54346089
This girl is infected with Colonist oil, burn her!

>>54349337
GW wasn't really doing their own IP's until the 80's.

>>54347939
Centurions are still stupid and only worth shit to waac fags and TTS watchers

>>54349374

Yeah, to each their own. I don't hate them, my personal feelings on the design space just keep me from properly enjoying rather decent models.

>>54346089
>GW has been shit for years m8, when I got out $35 for ten muhreenz was considered outrageous

Scifi minis have always been expensive.
When I started 40k, $7.50 for 3 metal marines was considered outrageous.

>>54349178
then i guess they went to far with the MBT stuff.

Mjolnir armour doesn't look like medieval plate at all. >>54349195

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>>54349406
>Mjolnir armour doesn't look like medieval plate at all.

On the other hand we all know the Mjolnir helmet is a clone of a GM head.

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>>54349276
>big pauldrons
>medieval
>Pick one
No? I might advise you that trying to challenge an armor fag on what armor is, is probably not a good idea. But yeah sure, Milanese armor totally didn't exist by the 1430's-1440's.

>Was scifi/space opera thing since stormtroopers
What is even your point here? Claiming ventilation makes something generic is idiotic as every single form of armor needs some form of oxygen intake/expulsion. The MK IV helmet is fairly unique as helmets in Sci Fi go and, while I'm not a fan of it as it isn't based in history, I haven't seen anything similar to it.

>More of a polish XVI style lower canon
>Top kek
The lower canon on MK X power armor seems to extend further over the elbow joint than is normal for most plate armor, which makes it more similar for canons/vambraces found on Polish Hussar armor from the early modern era than usual plate armor.

>But looks exactly like Space Marines, except head
>Meanwhike is there any real medieval armor which looks like 40k power armor?
It has no discernible plate pieces, especially on the torso. Space Marine armor meanwhile looks like white armor, only bloated in size and burger-fied.

>>54349170

>Let me tell you about your country

The UK has more cultural variety in 600 miles than the US does in 3000

>>54349375
Stormtroopers and Starshiptroopers cover of book and gundam pauldrons.
There is literally nothing medieval

>>54349443
>Milanese armor
Doesn't have oversized pauldrons
>What is even your point here?
That your argument about bentilation is invalid
>which makes it more similar for canons/vambraces found on Polish Hussar armor from the early modern era than usual plate armor.
Or with fallout armor, shit they even have a pipboy
>It has no discernible plate pieces, especially on the torso.
Just like SM

>>54349509
>The UK has more cultural variety in 600 miles than the US does in 3000

This is just such a stupid remark on every level from every viewpoint.

>>54349509
>Nottingham to London is about 2 hours on the train, it's not really all that far all things considered
>REEEEE stop talking about my country, we have more culture than you
Fuck off retard.

>>54349509
Well yes, in UK you should pass few mosques if you want to travel.

>>54349589
>>54349614
>>54349645
I think he's more pointing out that despite the short distances between areas in the UK, it's cities are so old and have so much history that places only an hour apart can be completely different to one another

Lots of towns and cities are ancient and have their own ingrained culture and stuff which is something a lot of Americans forget I think. It's not an ethnicity or religion thing, it's a literal case of amount of time these places existed

>>54349711
>I think he's more pointing out that despite the short distances between areas in the UK, it's cities are so old and have so much history that places only an hour apart can be completely different to one another

This is true of Europe in general.
I imagine of the Old World in general but I know only Europe well.

>>54349732
Pretty much all across the Old Word for sure

Americans really have a failure to comprehend how old the rest of the world is I think

>>54343193

God damn they look shit.

Their only hope is beakies and boltguns to look like rogue trader marines.

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>>54349560
>Doesn't have oversized pauldrons
WAT

Milanese "white armor" is literally DEFINED by having oversized asymmetrical pauldrons for cavalry armor along with smooth body contours. What in gods name are you even talking about, see pic related.

>Or with fallout armor, shit they even have a pipboy
I see you do not even comprehend the subject, or are willfully refusing to do so. What matter is the length of the upper canon, not this "pipboy" nonsense on it.

>It has no discernible plate pieces, especially on the torso.
>Just like SM
Are you fucking blind?

>>54349746
>Americans really have a failure to comprehend how old the rest of the world is I think

When did the already off-topic subject turn from diversity (which the US has tons of) to the age of cities? Moving the goal posts?

>>54349786
>beakies

turning reivers into a plague doctor themed unit doesn't sound so bad

>>54349353
This isn't sneaking in the references, they're lazily tracing over whatever they find on the internet. It's not one guy on the spider man team, there was half a crisis suit in iron man, devilfish and hammerheads in space venom, now there's a bolter in spiderman. GW would sue if they could but Disney can cuck them for their IP as hard as they want as GW can do nothing because Disney literally cannot lose in the courtroom.
It's sad to see, really. If they were sneaky on-jokes and references, that'd be cool, but it's not, it's just stealing designs because the artists are too lazy to care, and know that daddy disney will protect them.

>>54349791
>Are you fucking blind?
You're discussing with a slav class shitposter, clownon

>>54349803
Because that diversity stems from the age of the country, which is different from where America's diversity comes from, that's all.

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>>54349791
>Are you fucking blind?
Elaborating on this, power armor is ridiculously exaggerated in 40k, making it so easy to tell which piece is which that you would have you shove hobby knives in your eyeballs to not know your plackarts from your breastplates (which is often totally forgotten in sci fi, breastplates are small and do not cover the entire torso).

Also I apologize, in my previous picture I was referring to the lower canon as an upper canon. I was mixing my canons up.

>>54349855
I'm not the clown. I do not nearly possess the knowledge he has, but I like to think I've got a good knowledge base.

This is also what I mean by the lower canon of primaris marines looking a bit like in the style of a polish lower canon from the early modern era. The elbow protection is a bit more extensive and it makes the counter feel almost redundant.

>>54348871
>GW invents their own OC donut steel weird supersoldiers
>companies copy GW
>GW no longer unique
>Autists call them unoriginal
You are the reason AoS gets Orruks and Ogors, and 40K has the T'au and Aeldari, because you seem incapable of understanding that popular franchises that have been staples of their genres since the 80's tend to affect the genre as a whole. Or do you think GW just copied Warcraft's orcs?

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>>54349954
Fug, forgot image.

>>54349966

You must be idiotic - we accuse Infinity of copying anime, not GW.

>>54350025
oh yeah, and we 40k fans make fun the cancer that is Tau for the same reason.

>>54343360
>52 points per model
>3 wounds toughness 5
>3+ 5++

>Tfw i get the new Chaplain, Apothecary an Captain for my old Templar army
>tfw all my heroes are like twice the height of their generic brethren

WE WARCRAFT NOW

>>54349902
Canon, eh?
In the novels, the lower canons are called vambraces. I'm just wondering, is this accurate?

>>54349791
>oversized
How the fuck they are oversized comparing to 40k pauldrons?
>Are you fucking blind?
I can ask you the same question, because even Infinity weebshit is much closer to medieval armor, at least the have almost the same silhouette and proportions. 40k power armor looks more like
>>54349966
>>companies copy GW
Any examples?
>Or do you think GW just copied Warcraft's orcs?
I think GW loves to copy Blizzard (and shitton of other franchises) since zergs and hands proportions on the OP-pic reminds me Marauders from Starcraft 2.

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The reason why I'm not a fan of Spartans (not counting them being based on motorcross gear) is because their armor just looks nonfunctional by and large and not really historically inspired. Outside of Halo CE the armor becomes incredibly skimpy, and has this STUPID trend with "realistic" (read, not at all) armor aesthetic of breaking up solid plates into small pieces on areas that do not move. This is absolutely pointless, weakens structural integrity, adds shot traps for bullets, and just looks bad. There's no need for segmentation/breaking up plates on static areas. Or the huge gaps in protection on the inner thighs, neck, belly, and lack of good joint protection. The only positive thing I can really say about it objectively is that at least the designers knew that you can't bend over in a memetic full torso breastplate, so MK6 MJOLNIR acts closer to a real breastplate and the shit hawked on LARP sites.

>>54350107
Yes, it's an accurate name. I tend to go by upper/lower canon reflexively though. There's a couple parts of plate armor with interchangeable words.

>>54345972
I dont care what anybody says, top-turret aside this is a great design.

>>54350069
More like we ork now

>>54346229
It's a girl with colored contacts.

>>54350112
>40k power armor looks more like armoured spacesuit separated helmet

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>>54343191
They look kind of like Centurions that went on a diet.

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>>54350122
>This is absolutely pointless, weakens structural integrity, adds shot traps for bullets
>what Dragon skin is

>>54348477
Never gonna happen. IG will get jump-scions. Mark my words. You're getting the Primaris treatment.

>>54350122
It's BMX padding plus some extra padding.

>>54350184
They don't look alike but sure, go ahead and accuse GW of ripping off starcrap

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>>54350222
>go ahead and accuse GW of ripping off starcrap

>>54350209
>Guard
>getting anything Marine associated

They couldn't even give 30k Army Rhinos and Land Raiders. Not unless they put on power armour and pretend to be Marines.

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>>54350112
>How the fuck they are oversized comparing to 40k pauldrons?
Why do you think literally? They are not literally 40k pauldrons, they are inspired by them. The only problem with power armor in 40k is that only one pauldron should be ginormous, on the side you expect to get hit. Otherwise it's a fair continuation of the method of thinking that went into the design of white plate.

>at least the have almost the same silhouette and proportions.
That means shit. Mughal and Sindh armor has the exact same silhouette and proportions of gothic plate. They are absolutely nothing alike and share none of ideology behind the armor's creation and use. "Silhouette and proportions" is the single WORST means to judge armor similarity because said values have no similarity besides an outline. Power armor in 40k is just medieval armor bloated, burger-fied into ginormous plate aimed to be a children's toy. It is still clearly european styled armor with a minor passing glance.

Infinity's armor is some shit an artist vomited onto a page, attempting to copy the aesthetic of a certain harness while learning nothing about it in the process. Broken up shards of armor on a glorified nanosuit does not make good looking historically inspired armor. it just looks like a nanosuit knockoff.

>tl;dr

40K space marines are still clearly identifiably wearing plate, infinity's knights are wearing something that looks like it came out of crysis, covered in glue, and rolled in a scrap heap.

>>54343191
>Aggressors

Why are all these names so shit?

>>54350107
There's various ontological reasons to refer to them as cannons to make discussion easier, such as whether they are connected and in what way. Its easier to just say "we're talking about canons" then use the terms upper and lower.

>>54350196
Dragon Skin was abandoned by the US military on account of being overhyped shit that utterly failed to live up to any of their hopes. It's actually punishable for a soldier now to try to bring dragonskin into battle on account of it fucking melting.

Nevermind that a solid slab of tempered steel is objectively superior to ceramic shit. Only problem is weight.

>>54350279
Because you haven't opened a thesaurus ever.

At least they're actual words with meaning and not some perversion of a real word or Bloodskull Hellmurder.

>>54348063
Holy fuck that's a tremendous level of detail for a model of that scale.

>>54350307
>Only problem is weight.

And lack of any flex. Seeing that 99% of the time a soldier is not being shot at, weight does become a major issue.

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>>54350229
Here we go again.

>>54350366
Lack of flex isn't much of issue for a ballistic insert that is actually smaller than historical breastplates which are already very easy to flex in. It's the weight more than anything that is a problem.

>>54348063
But I don't like them as much.

>>54350277
>they are inspired by them.
Source please, please provide a fuckinbg source, because they doesn't look simillar except of their role (to protect shoulders).
>Power armor in 40k is just medieval armor
Because..?
>40K space marines are still clearly identifiably wearing plate,
Not Primarix marines, who looks exactly like generic sci-fi guys, pribably wings on chest plate and purity seals makes them closer to 40k.
>like it came out of crysis,
So just like Reivers?
>>54350307
>. Only problem is weight.
And weapon.

>>54350391
>ballistic insert

I thought you were saying a solid steel breastplate is better than dragon skin.

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>>54350222
Actually I meant the actual GW centurions, I just didn't have a picture on file and was too lazy to look for one.

Figured the Marauder illustrated my point well enough.

>>54350383
>loook it uses giant claws too!

>>54350444
Same can be applied to >>54350229, you know.

>>54350325
Yeah, AoS names are worse, but Aggressors is such a fucking nonspecific, bland name. What does the word Aggressor really tell you about something other than that it's attacking stuff? FUCKING EVERYTHING IN 40K IS ATTACKING STUFF.

Tactical Marines are called Tactical Marines because they're versatile, they have multiple battlefield roles. Terminators are called Terminators because they have extremely powerful weapons and armor that allows them to destroy the toughest foes - they are called in when you want something terminated. Devastators are called Devastators because the world implies wide-scale and complete destruction, especially of buildings and armored targets, like the kind their heavy weapons are capable of.

'Aggressor' is lackluster as fuck in comparison. Everything in 40K is a fucking aggressor.

>>54349791
>that armour on the left
my, i never knew piece of metal can be this sexy

>>54350498
>Same can be applied to >>54350229
No, since we can see here total redesign, from lizard-humanoids to zerg-like, while your picture shows only two giant claws, while the rest parts (head, body and legs) look very different

>>54348850
Gonna be honest, I don't think I've seen much sci-fi stuff that looks like that.

I can't speak for all of Infinity, but that armor specifically has about as much in common with the generic sci-fi of today as Space Marine armor.

Sci-fi power armor these days generally leans toward a Halo or Mass Effect sort of look.

>>54343193
>>54343231
>We full saturday morning cartoons now.
If you consider that the aesthetic is very 90's, you could almost consider it appropriate for the 'new era' of the Imperium that they represent. Since 40K has always been about 80's aesthetics.

I'm still getting a box of Reivers to turn into Alpha Legionaires.

>>54343191
AHAHAHAHAHAH HOW CAN MARINELETS EVEN COMPETE?

>>54350612
>the aesthetic is very 90's
>>54346768

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>>54350112
Nids were both franchises trying to do Alien, Starship Troopers, Enders game, and so much more, it's really not surprising both 40K and Starcraft took that idea, and zerg look a lot more like old nid models to me than new nid models look like zerg. Pic related, it looks a LOT more to me that GW tried to distinguish itself and make the tyranids NOT look like zerg. Old 'fex, ultralisk, new 'fex

>>54350632
>spotted the 18 year old
The 90's were putting skulls on shit before the faggots who play that CoD game were even born.

>>54350500
Aggressor suggests a very in your face attitude.
Aggressive usage rather than defensive or reactive.

>>54350682
>Pic related,
Pic is totally unrelated
>while your picture shows only two giant claws, while the rest parts (head, body and legs) look very different

>>54350690
>The 90's were putting skulls on shit
But not on their faces

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>>54350581
>zerg-like

In that they have big bladed claws?

You can probably make some argument for the head, though the earlier tyranids had big heads (though not as big) as well. The Starcraft 1 Hydralisk has a very round head with a series or ridges going along the middle, like old tyranid warriors. Starcraft 2 Hydralisks then adopt a more carapace like structure with a spiky crown at the back, like new tyranid warriors.