Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>54339349
First for the Drukhari!

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Second for SoB rape.

>>54339366
Buy a BoP box, trade characters and talons for more marines, use the rest to buy some tanks and dreads.

If I start Death Guard, am I bandwagon jumping?

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>>54337896
This turned out surprisingly well.

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I have 250 burger bucks and I'm starting Iron Hands, WAT DO

>>54339366
The Space Marine SC! Is unironically a good place to start any nonsnowflake marine chapter.

>>54339410
Reconsider.

>>54339276
Having started running my mostly craftworld force as Ynnari, I'm going to say you're only half right.

3-4 man units of cannon bikes, 2 three man squads of dark reapers in the pack line. 2 5 man Howling banshee squads in a wave serpent.
I'm going to try out shinning spears soon too.

The ten man guardian squad hopping out of WS and getting 2 turns of shooting under guide, then probably dying because T3 5+.

I'm mainly running it because battle focus is now quite meh, but CW have been getting some pretty good bonuses from Ynnari, it's just not for heavy wraith lists.

>>54339410
See >>54339391

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>>54339376
>>54339276
76 anons can you please help me build a list around massed shadow spectres? Like 3 units of 10?

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>need to paint a lord of contagion, malignant plaguecaster and bloat drone
>need to finish painting my noxious blightbringer
>need to assemble and paint 20 poxwalkers, 10 plague marines, 3 characters and a bloat drone

So much work.

And I've told myself I won't start on new cool stuff till I've finished this.

>>54339425
Fuck you Fulgrim

>>54339410
First: Don't play Iron Hands
Second: Don't play Space Marines
Third: Don't play 40k.
Forth: Don't play miniature war game.

>>54339410
I feel bad that everyone else gets special characters and Primarchs while the Iron Father hasn't existed since 3rd.

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>>54339410
Consider getting an airbrush so you can have a crack at the more interesting smoke-y metal scheme.

>>54339398
All the bandwagoners will jump off in a couple of weeks. Just stay with them and nobody will complain.

>>54339427
Yeah, okay, if you're not going crazy with the Wraith stuff, then yeah. I'd still say a couple suicide squads of DE can't hurt.

>>54339465
That looks olive to me...

>>54339447
>>54339410
I would honestly recommend waiting until the Codex is out.
Grab a box of Tacs and the Iron Hands upgrade sprue (think you'll need to hit ebay now).
>>54339456
They *had* Masters of the Forge in the 6e 'dex.

>>54339410
What kind of Iron Hands are you thinking?

Mechanicum/Space Marines mixed army, terminator spam?

For the former take Onagers with Neutron Lasers for heavies.

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>>54339377
2nd for the dark city!!

>>54339440
I'd say start by not using forge world.
Then continue by not using forge world.
Then finish with no forge world.

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>>54339504
HEY I CLAIMED SECOND!

>>54339513
Yeah, nah fuck off, m8

>>54339441
I feel you. My Poxwalkers are going to be minimalistic as fuck, just Rakarth Flesh skin with half a dozen shades and then either brown or grey for the clothing and then metallics for the weapons. Done. Not going to do anything actually challenging for fucking chaff.

>>54339453
Fifth: Don't even live.

Also have a Rhino lying around here from eight years ago that's dusty all over and I swore I'll Nurgle it up.

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>>54339514
Nuh uh! Now I get 3rd too

Do you have to prime colored plastic?

>>54339479
Isn't the codex out in like a week, if they turn out to be THAT bad I'll use another chapter

>>54339482
Mostly fluffy, like Dreadnoughts, tanks, lots of bbrrrrttt. Eventually I'll get some mechanicum

>>54339562
Yes. It's about getting the other layers of paint to stick to the mini, Anon.

>>54339415
Friend, what do you think primer does?

>>54339562
Nah just chew on them a bit so the paint sinks into the tooth marks

>>54339575
>>54339584

I figured but like if you still have to prime them then why are they colored plastic? What's the point?

Y'Vahra+ATS attacks Lemon Rust

5.83+1
6.83 wounds after saves

Apply Nova reactor to both guns and light up with full MLs

8.75+9.6+2M
18.35 plus 2 mortals after saves

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Can I use the Aerial Drop ability on Cyclops and Tarantulas to make deep-strikes? I'm planning to use a squadron of Cyclops to act as a distraction and force the enemy to run away from the objectives

>>54339599
So that people don't feel the need to paint them.

>>54339420
Holy hell yes. Never paint directly onto plastic and most definitely don't count the plastic as a paint. The coats you apply directly over it have a bad habit of flaking off when you start dry-brushing.

They coloured them so that you can play straight out of the box. There's a bit of colour, which makes them look like models for a board game, but if you actually want to paint them, treat them like you would treat any other plastic.

>>54339599
It's for kids mate

>>54339441
>Have a Chaos Predator, 5 Raptors, 5 Terminators, and 6 CSM needing assembly and paints

What do?

>>54339562
see >>54339614

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So what codexes, aside from the four known ones, are we expecting to be out this year?

Ultramarines are going to be really good when the codex drops.

Being able to fall back and shoot is going to make them very slippery.

>>54339624
Predator if it were me.

What loadout you giving it?

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>>54339557
STOP IT

>>54339604
Check the FAQ from today, otherwise, looks like lmao

>>54339604
I'm fairly certain the Aerial Drop rule has restriction on what it works on through KEYWORDS OF GAYNESS right? As long as it doesn't violate them, it's fine.

>>54339637
Probably 5 flavors of Spess Muhreen, then some eldar and tau

>>54339571
The thing is, mechanicum tanks are fluffy for you and way better than SM tanks.

Dreadnoughts are great as well.

>>54339601

R'Varna with ATS and full MLs
versus TEQs no invul
4.18 kills each each receiving 3 damage

versus Lemon
7.84 wounds post save

>>54339637
>>54339669
Exodite Eldar. Screencap this.

>>54339673
What Dreads would be best

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>>54339349
>Numbers of Imperial Guard
>Weapons of the Astartes
>Faith of the Sororitas
>Knowledge of the Inquisition
>The Imperium could not function without us
>Made the Primaris marines, and their tech


Techlets, when will they learn that the Ad Mech is the true power behind the Imperium? Everyone should just convert to the Cult Mechanicus, and make our lives easier. Imagine:

>Every Marine is a Techmarine
>Sisters of battle get acts of faith as well as Canticles
>Imperial Guard all have assault 3, bs 3+

>>54339690
Ironclads.
Possibly some Forge World variants.

>>54339638
Bah, it's not that good an effect. -1 To Hit means they sure as fuck won't be shooting overcharged Plasma at you so the scariest thing you can reasonably expect is Veterans with Combi-Flamers shooting, charging, punching, punching, falling back and shooting.

I mean sure it's nice but I assume the other Chapters will get something else just as decent.
If Iron Hands get their FnP back and it doesn't get translated into a 6++ Invuln like all other Bionics, their Primaris Marines are going to be hardy as fuck.

>>54339704
I want IH to get +1 T

>>54339698
Do you by chance know which FW Dreads? I'm definitely going to be trying to make the Iron Council

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>>54339694
Ad Mech waifus are mechanically superior as well

>>54339690
Totally best would be a Leviathan woth double grav flux bombards, but it is expensive and probably want people to play with you.

Go for lascannon and fist first, they are great anti-vehicle and monstrous creatures. Try some games like that, then look at rifling up more as you get a feel for the meta.

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>>54339390

>>54339734
See >>54339739

>>54339694
If the Mechanicus had led the crusade instead of the dumb Emperor, humanity wouldn't be in the mess it's in. Servitors don't rebel.

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What color should I paint her hair? I wanted to do something different and deviate from the normal red hair they show on the box/website. I was thinking white+ Coelia greenshade, white+ Druchii violet, or even some sort of blue.

How come they never made an all grots army like Night Goblins in fantasy?

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>>54339737
That is true

>>54339757
Purple with black highlights

>>54339725
Hell, if each Chapter gets its own Psychic Discipline, the Iron Hands might just get Warpmetal Armour from the Technomancy discipline, which would be a Toughness buff power, which would be damn fine.

>>54339725
I want the same so they made cibernetic +1 T, i want to have a generic mini yarrick as HQ

>>54339681
You're not my real dad, you can't tell me what to do.

So I'm confused about chaos marines. Does the geneseed cause corruption of the marines?

I thought that they are individuals. If it's not the seed, does that mean there are still pockets of loyal marines with geneseed of corrupt primarchs? Do they just join the Deathwatch or something?

>>54339513
Why do you say that? So far only restrictions for ITC are 30 PL or lower and 3 maximum detachments

>>54339599
For kids who don't want to paint or just don't know the steps to painting minis.

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>>54339743
Just stretching, lad. Nothing sexual at all.

>>54339737
Pic related. There's no nipples on it, add them if you want.

Chaos Decimators with dual Soulburner Petards still look decent even at 210 points now.

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What's a good varnish?

>>54339808
The Individual causes the corruption, most chaos marines in the Horus heresy were results of the marines being more loyal to their
traitor Primarchs than the emperor.

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>>54339795
WELL MAYBE IF YOUR REAL DAD HUNG AROUND YOU WOULDN'T BE STEALING PEOPLE'S POSTS!

What is ITC anyway? Im new and I see the term thrown around here.

>>54339390
Damn, that's hot

>>54339677

R'Varna is best for spanking heavy infantry, especially does work again Tyranids, makes sense fluff-wise.

Markerlights+ATS against Tyranid warriors

6.3 warriors killed, at 25 ppm it removes 158 points per volley

>>54339681

>A second new Eldar faction within the recent while

god no

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>>54339820
I bet the sex would be shocking

>>54339752
Exactly. Imagine the moment Horus rebelled, his brain shut off. Emps should have just become the Fabricator General.

>>54339694
Truth. Not to mention their ships Navy better than the actual Navy and every single midranked officer has a sodding Power Fist and Meltagun sometimes. They like to think we're subordinate, though.

I've been reading Binary Succession and it looks like the Admech utterly owned their alliance negotiations. They're now utterly indispensable to the Imperium and are even more coordinated than before, and the fear of the Imps muscling in on their shit never really happened.

>>54339833
So what happened to those who stayed loyal?

>>54339879
They got scooped up by Malcador and formed the basis for the Inquisition, Grey Knights, etc.

>>54339879
Excellent question, Private! Please report to your Commissar for more information!

Kind of annoying that Kriegs can't take mars patherns or annihilators Leman Russ Commanders well at least they added all the artllery for their army list

>>54339879
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Severian_(The_Wolf)

>>54339646
Twin lascannons + side lascannons

My list needs more long range AT.

>>54339879
>>54339894
Also it's implied a rogue loyalist cult of the Thousand sons went on to form the Blood Ravens

>>54339898
I don't like it. Less reason to play Vanilla Guard now that they have all my best toys.

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>>54339390
this dude keeps drawing the same face over and over... zzz

>>54339440
Having something putting up conceal is going to be huge deal for you. Without the -2 to hit those expensive guys are going to die fast. You're going to want a farseer and/or an autarch to let those prisms get the multiple hits.

You'll want something with more range, as 30" threat is nice but not enough to hit the vehicles.

Prism rifles do seem to make you want blasters from DE a little less.

If you want 10 man shadowspecter units, I'd say give them cheaper screens or something to trigger soulburst of if you're going ynnari.

>>54339952
What is artstyle? He also did >>54339743 and that isn't the same.

>>54339921
That loadout is great, but 202 points, 100 of them for the guns is fucking expensive.

>>54339810
is ITC keeping the stupid 'finishing deploying first only give you a +1 on the roll to go fist'?

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>>54339952
Yeah. Fucking Simpsons. Same face over and over. Fucking Family Guy. Fucking Scooby Doo!

>>54339935
I just fucking want the an Annihilator Commander for my codex Guard,

>>54339441
I have three leman ruses, two heavy weapons squads of three teams each, three squads of guardsmen, a command squad, a few chimeras, two squads of skitarii, two onager dunecrawlers, a tech priest dominus, and cawl to build. Don't get me started on painting.

>>54339894
>>54339917
That's cool. So presumably some became Deathwatch. I'm guessing they don't display the shoulder though as it's embarrassing.

>>54339898
They can't even take the Stormblade, i fucking love that tank and most of the books that it appear are in Krieg colors.

>>54340029
I would assume they're dead at this point, it has been 10,000 years after all.

>>54340051
Well, Space Marines can't die of old age, so if one of them got particularly lucky (or unlucky, maybe) he may still be alive. It would sure as fuck be a great backstory/explanation of how your Watch Master earned his Guardian Spear.

Intercessor squad.
5 models
100 points.
Can have up to 25 more models for 10ppm.
As long as the unit has 10 or more men it can shoot after advancing without penalty.
For every 10 men in the unit one can replace his bolt rifle for a special weapon.

>>54340051
>>54340091
for some chaos marine, the siege of terra was ten minutes ago.
the warp, bro

>>54340091
>>54340127
Muh Dante

>>54340091
It definitely would, but the only (loyalist) muhreen that's alive to even remember the Emperor being not beefy jerky is that space wolf dreadnaught

>>54339984

Simpsons, Family Guy, and Scooby Doo have far more facial variation than that artist. He LITERALLY does sameface for even different species like Eldar.

Meanwhile, Simpsons have people with realistic faces, people with Homer style faces, Family Guy has different face shapes like Joe's chin, Scooby Doo the people look completely different (other than same eyes).

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>>54340091
According to Graham McNeil, space marines are immortal but their minds are. After ten thousand years a Space Marine will probably be bugfuck insane.

>>54340091
Thousand sons guy living for 10k years. Kicking ass and living it large.

>>54339922
>>54339879
Not just that, but the first Grand Master of the Grey Knights was a loyalist Thousand Sons sergeant and one of the 4 founding members of the Inquisition was Ahriman's own apprentice.

>>54339848
ITC is a tournament community that tries to be important and succeeds among WAAC players. They made house rules for 6th and 7th edition and tried to pass them off as gods gift to 40k, when in reality all it did was make things more confusing.
Basically a bunch of tourney fags under a banner where they say the game should work the way they thing it should work, so their playstyles can continue.

>>54340159

Bullshit, there's no recorded non-dread lasting more than 900 years, and he was a blood Angel.

Anyone else is going completely grey and leathery well before that.

>>54340180
>Basically a bunch of tourney fags under a banner
and now that banner is official gw

>>54340186

There's some story (from BL so not canon :^)) of a Salamanders from 30k who couldn't be put in a Dreadnought in time due to a ship fight or something, so they put his wounded body in the control chair of a warship so he could help pilot the ship and stay alive, and then they just forgot about him and when the 40k Salamanders found the ship's drifting wreck, he was still alive 10,000 years later using that coma technique marines know, but he was fused to the chair and all shriveled. They just mercy killed him.

>>54340180
>ITC rules are confusing
>uses the phrase "more" confusing, so he admits 7E is already a confusing mess
>implying ITC wasn't attempting to fix that problem

Anti-ITC scrubs are so hilarious. They even out themselves with how bad they are at the game, you don't even need to do anything except mention FLG, Reecius, or ITC and they'll start sperging out about blogs or homerules.

>>54340186
>no recorded non-dread lasting more than 900 years
Muh Dante
Also the BT High Marshal that was some 2000 years old.

>>54339808
>Does the geneseed cause corruption of the marines?
No

>does that mean there are still pockets of loyal marines with geneseed of corrupt primarchs? Do they just join the Deathwatch or something?
After 10k years it would be highly unlikely, but during the HH and shortly afterwards there were lots of warbands doing their own thing. Loyalist IW and EC, rogue Wolves and RG etc.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blackshields

>>54340199
So it's officially GW ruleset too now?

>>54340029
Nah, deathwatch wasn't founded until the war of the beast

>>54339637
I'm hoping for orks, but I don't assume anything except more Space Marines and variants of Chaos.

>>54340253
yes its called 8ed

>>54340236
Hadn't even heard of that community until ten minutes ago and I already hate those people because you're getting all defensive and lashing out at the mere mention that they might not be perfect.

>>54340282
Oooooooooh

>>54340091

Nigga, being a marine already has a mortality rate of 99.99%. Deathwatch is EVEN MORE dangerous.

>>54340291
>I haven't even heard of them but I already hate them

See? Outing themselves.

>getting all defensive and lashing out

Just like you. See? Dumbass hypocrites can't even stop from outing themselves with every word they type.

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so I did the math and the each of the new box sets that GW just put out are about $2.50 per model, even the easy build kits. That's breddy gud.

>>54340328
Intelligent frogposter

>>54340091
They can die of old age, its unheard of but GK librarians retire when they are too old to fight.

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>>54340319

>>54340337
I'd want to retire too if my entire job relied around the Dewey decimal system.

>>54340337
Those guys are probably from the heresy, wouldn't surprise me if you could find an old Janus somewhere on titan pouring over old tomes and shit.

>>54340220

Did they talk to him first?

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>54340319

>>54340091
in horus rising in a conversation the spess muhreens had they heavily implied that space marines live forever.

>>54340387

He's so old, even for a marine that he walks with a cane, is somewhat hunched and needs reading glasses.

>>54340303
>Nigga, being a marine already has a mortality rate of 99.99%

Living has a mortality rate of 100%
In any case, duh, you serve till you die.

>>54340186
Except for a ten thousand year old Dark Angel, Grey Knight, and Salamander.

>>54340091
>Well, Space Marines can't die of old age

Is this actually confirmed? Remember that 30k era CSM have lived in the warp/Eye, they haven't lived the same linear time as the rest of the galaxy has. To some of them the Heresy just ended.

>>54340243

Dante is the 900 year old man anon.

>>54340430

Cypher is a chaos marine anon.

can admech ally with chaos?

>>54340434
Are you retarded anon? Dante has been Chapter Master for 1,100 years, and is probably around 1,500 years old.

>>54340447
>Keywords: [...], Imperium

>>54340447
Not talking about Cypher. And Cypher isn't a Chaos Marine, he's been doubly confirmed to be a loyalist and fulfilling the dying wishes of Lion'el Jonson. Plus after his time travel stint he should actually be 20,000 years old.

>>54340220
In Eye of Terror there's a DA who got ejected into space during the Heresy and he drifted in a coma till M41.

The SM coma thing seems to work to preserve the body quite well. Don't know if a Marine could live for 10,000 as is, without external factors.

>>54339650
Alliralli go home

>>54340462

Yeah that's why he's in index imperium.

If he lives in the eye, his butt ain't shy.

>>54340455
Not until the next Imperial Armour which is supposed to introduce Dark Mechanicus

>>54340455
Not yet.

What are the best builds for Tau Commanders?

Torn between just loading mine up with 4 weapons, or 3 and a ATS. I think im going with the CIB at this point for all weapons, being the closest I can get to true plasma.

>>54340481
>>54340478
thanks freinds

>>54340465
Has he lived 20,000 years relative time or has there been warp fuckery and shit going on?

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Are there Gnostics in the Adeptus Ministorum? Who see Chaos as the Demiurge and see the Emperor as an Aeon, an emanation of the superior God.

>>54340478

FoC?

>>54340418

>Old man marines
back in my day, when we wanted hover tanks we all had to grab a corner and heave ho

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>>54340497
When it comes to Cypher, Bridgend fic Ges the warp with a dcurdx lived.

>>54340434
You're an idiot.
I also enjoy how you failed to address the High Marshall.

>>54340497
Well he's been traveling all across the galaxy, then flew through a portal and went back to the destruction of Caliban 10,000 years ago and has presumably lived through the past ten millennia. He's at least several thousand years old biologically now.

>>54340520

Yeah the high marshal older than Dante the repeatedly stated to be the oldest marine who ever lived.

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What's the best way to fight Necrons as SM's? My bolters don't do shit and wraiths are fucking invincible.

>>54340513
>FoC?
Yes. IF that ever comes out.

>>54340548
Incorrect, Dante is the oldest living, not oldest ever.

Get your shit straight, dumbfuck.

I'm confused about Typhus's destroyer hive: does he always hits on 5+s with it instead of his own 2+ BS, or does it's rule only means that it can't be reduced below 5+ even on overwatch?

>>54340537
>Well he's been traveling all across the galaxy

Travelling how? I mean, does he just appear in places via portals or does he take a ship or what?

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>>54340513
I mean they did actually have grav tanks back then.

>>54340576
Hitching rides with the Dark Angels

>>54340576
He's a space hobo.

>>54340576

He hitches a ride in Draigo's codpiece.

>>54340537
>lions sword is keeping him alive
>doesnt want to leave it with just anyone
>cant even give it to the Emperor because gullimam spazzed the fuck out
>he just wants to die but must carry on

>>54340563

I knew about some new admech stuff, tau stuff, but not about a new faction
Well, there was a new Tau flier previewed by FW, and it is likely coming out with the IA. So IA sometime this year...?

>>54340552
You don't. Always refuse games with Necron/Tau/Eldar fags.

>>54340552
Kill whole squads, no survivors.

Necrons are bad at melee, get some terminators or centurions to punch them.

Scouts snipe their crypteks and lords.

Ignore their vehicles, they are indestructible but have shitty guns.

>>54340573
Second

>>54340612
From a space marine player. This is fucking hilarious.

>>54340603

If he could sneak out of a Custodes guarded jail cell why couldn't he sneak into the throne room? He's in the palace already by that point, that's 99.9999% of the job done.

>>54340552
Focus everything on a single unit until it's dead. Completely deleted units can't respawn. Toss something tough or tarpitty at the Wraiths.

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>>54340612
So just play HH?

>>54340612
Don't you have a 30k circlejerk army to paint?

>>54340573
I want to say yes because, why else does he have a 2+. At the same time I haven't seen any batreps online actually use it that way. Then again MWG are idiots.

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>>54340666
Yes, Satan.

>>54340646
What's so funny about it? If GW doesn't want to acknowledge how OP some races are then we should just confine the people who play them to their own kind.

>>54340647

>gets through door
>Yo gramps delivery
>DO I HAVE TO SIGN FOR IT

So why exactly can't Deathwatch take primaris?
What's the logic behind this?

>>54340697
They aren't OP.

>>54340612

>I don't play anything I can't beat
>>>r/30k

>>54340690
Is "always hits on 5+" really this hard to understand or will you grasp at any straw to get one over your opponents?

>>54340710
>Basic troops can be taken in massive 20 man squads and recover d3 models a turn
>Not OP
Pick one, faggot.

>>54340703
Because Primaris aren't specialized in anything.

>>54340504
Probably? The imperial creed is not a coherent religion, and the specifics change from plant to plant. The only thing that matters is worship of the god emperor, in whatever form that ends up as for your culture.

Also keep in mind that relatively few people know of chaos' existence.

>>54340703
*yet.
They can already take Reivers, the others are just a matter of time.
Primaris Bolt Rifles with Kraken rounds will be funny as fuck.

>>54340720
Then explain the 2+BS you buttface. What else could he use it for? He can't use any powers that requires it and emplacement guns are just on/off automated now.

>>54340729
>M-muh 20 man Bolter Squads can't do it so it's Ohh Pee.

>>54340729
Not OP. Only seems it on paper.

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>>54339349
tfw proper plastic sisters models will never come out

>>54340729
You forgot
>HQ's that buff your units BS or survivability
>Only thing SM's get is rerolling 1's to hit.
GW is playing favorites.

>>54340729

Warriors are high end, the faction as a whole isn't all that.

>>54340772
>What are Chapter Tactics

>>54340760
How come basic troops for SM are shit compared to every other basic troop? Bolters even have trouble taking down guardsmen.

>>54340747
>Why do Poxwalkers have BS6+?
>Why do Khorne Berzerkers not lose their BS when they switch out their Pistols?
>Why do Wracks and Grotesques have a BS value?

>>54340772
>SM
>Anything but GW's favourites

>>54340783
>What are things we don't have yet

>>54340743
Can they not take either of the new heroes?

>>54340797
Berserkers - grenades anon.. You need bs to throw them

>>54340603
Does he actually want to die?

So I'm pretty much a complete newfag when it comes to 40k. I bought Dark Vengeance last year and split it with a friend. I ended up with the Chaos side, and it seems pretty fun. Now I'm planning on buying Dark Imperium and splitting it as well.

What are some other ways I can improve my army?

>>54340647
Did you even read it anon? He didn't sneak out. Somebody opened the cell door for him.

That's Cypher's secret. He has never actually escaped something. Every time he has been released because his help was needed with something.

>>54340743
What the fuck do reivers even do?

>>54340772
>What is Bobby G

>>54340837
Suck ass and be useless.

>>54340856
That bad?

>>54340856
t manlet

>>54340747
You're legitimately retarded.

Do the Iron Hands have a primaris sucessor chapter yet?

>>54340795
>Yeah holy shit Guard are Ohh Pee too, jesus fuck GW why is my favorite army scraping the bottom of the tier barrel?! And damn have you looked at those Wyches lately? Ohh Pee shit like that should be banned. Banned I say. Just like those fucking Skitarii, fuck those guys, prancing around with their guns that are ever so slightly better than Bolters.

>Clearly my Bolters should be Rapid Fire 2, S6, AP-3 and D:D3. And Tacs clearly deserve a massive fucking points drop.

>And what do you mean the Movie Marines Codex was a joke?!

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So my Warpsmiths have set forth to produce something useable from the scraps we recovered from fighitng the false god's forces..

A whirlwind has been reborn as a predator.

(ok i'm a poorfag atm and i have no idea how i ended up with a whirlwind .. so i decided to kitbash the fuck out of it with parts i had laying arround.

r8t h8t. (i might pull the launcher off the top)

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Alright, here's some list I just put together. None of it is even bought yet, so any input is welcome.

>>54340883
Bolters should be rapidfire 2 though and AP-1 at least. They are worse than lasguns since lasguns at least get a fuckload of shots.

>>54340827
Oh right, Typhus has Blight Grenades too right? Why would you ever throw them over using the Hive though? Either way that answers my question and I thank you for being the only Anon with a sensible answer.

>>54340837
18 points for a Marine with 2 Wounds, 2 Attacks, a counts-as-Chainsword, an AP-1 Bolt Pistol and Grenades that make enemies -1 To Hit and they lower enemy LD. They also had a Grav Chute deployment rule teased but that isn't implemented yet. Basically, they're footslogging Assault Marines with decent gear.

>>54340881
Yes, once you get off your arse and make one.

>>54340909
I think im going to be sick

>>54340921
It shouldn't even have been a discussion. You're retarded and can't comprehend things.

>>54340918
But this is objectively wrong

>>54340944
: ^ )

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How are pure daemons in the new ed? I looked at the rules and like the 40k rules for them more than the AOS.
What's a good way to get started with a daemons army? Never done 40k before.

>>54340729
>20 man
>massive
I miss Fantasy, now those were some proppa mobs.

>>54340940

>I think im going to be sick

Then working as intended (it's being put into my death guard army.)

Should 3 lascannon centurions be enough anti tank for a 1500pt game?

>>54340710
Neither are marines

>>54340944
Oh Anon your dick is so biiiiig
Say something MANLY again on this Mongolian fingerpainting community center artboard

>>54340772

>Space Marines literally complaining about not being favoured more
Try playing SoBs you shitter
Who do they fondle if not Marines?

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>young kid at LGS
>collects IG, specifically Scions
>has no talent for painting at all, just paints huge blobs on them directly from pot

Feel bad for him, he wants his guys to look good but doesn't seem to have the skill. Paint starting to look meme level of thick after repeatedly changing their colour.

Does anyone have any idea for a Nurgle Warband?

>tfw Bullgryns Valk'd in a beat my Captain and Pysker to death
>tfw Bullgryns then proceeded to smash up several Tanks

nerf when

>>54340993
Then start trying to teach him you fuckwit.

>>54341006
Are you trying to discriminate against them due to their mental inability? They can't tell right from wrong Anon, they're not responsible for their actions and you have to learn to be more tolerant by placing even more high point targets in their retard stampede.

>>54340994
What do you want to focus on?

Start with your ideas on the tabletop, then go from there. Also you talking about fluff or looks?

>>54341013
I'm a beginner too. I don't paint like that though but its not really my place.

>>54340983
Never said they were?

>>54340958
Slaanesh always attack first.

>>54341031
Post

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It might be a stupid question but I will try my chance. Does it really matter which clan I will pick for my Orks? I know that now it only matters as long as my orks are sharing the same clan keyword but were there any extra rules in 7e for canon clans like Bad Moons or Blood Axes?

>>54340881
Thanks to the warp and any other crazy bullshit you want, everyone has primaris and new successor chapters. Just go with it.

>>54340912
You can't take Combi-Weapon + Power Weapon on Sergeants, check the Sergeant Equipment list. Only HQs can do that.
Don't take a Plasma Pistol, take a Combi-Plasma instead.
Where's the normal Flamer in the Flamer squad?
Leave one of the Twin Lascannons out for now, they're expensive as fuck and you should still have enough anti-tank.
The pair of lightning claws looks like a great idea on the Sergeant, but they're too expensive. Save them for a Captain or something, who can use them better.
Finally, consider tweaking your list a bit. You now have 1 too few Troops for the Battalion detachment and 1 too few Elites for the 3 Elites detachment, so you're effectively throwing Command Points away.

>>54340883
>he thinks basic marines haven't been trash for the entire history of the game except to unlock free rhinos

Lol so fuckin bad at this game. Scouts are the best troop right now due to low cost and pre deep strike blocking deployment

>>54341031

Fluff. I kinda want them to be a newly traitor chapter. So why would a loyalist chapter fall to Nurgle?

>>54340985
>projecting
Try not to be so cool my man

>>54341048
Ok? So I'm guessing daemonettes are the best melee. I know plaguebearers are good for holding points. What about horrors? And a loc for a general?

>>54341062
Nothing too major yet, but wait for the codex to be sure. I'm hoping the Snakebites get some sorta unit again, instead of just being runtherds. Most of my boyz are clearly Bloodaxe, but I have a lot of mobs that are other clans as well (lootas are Deathskulls, a bunch of Goff boyz, etc.). I'd hate to have to get everything too specific though, since mixed clan armies are how it's always been since at least the 2nd ed days when I started.

>>54341070
That's the problem. They shouldn't be trash.

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>>54341070
>Scouts
>Best troop
>Me fucking gob when

>>54341074
It could be against their will?

A version of the plague virus/daemon infestation or some other parasite could be controlling them. An idea I had was that some cultists were rewarded for corrupting a planet and serving Nurgle by being turned into a horrible long and thin parasite which gets implanted into a space marine, gifting the cultist a marine body to control.

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>>54341111
>6+ save
>5" movement
Go home boy, you iz drunk.

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>>54341074
Maybe they suffered a major setback and in their desperation invoked something they shouldn't have? Maybe they're a BA successor that suffered a quirk where their lamentation over Sanguinius' death made them really depressed and somber. Maybe some Nurgle daemon or a daemon prince appeared to them as the manifestation of Sanguinius, which brought them joy, and they followed their "primarch" to heresy?

>>54341133
>30 Boyz + Nob jumping in
>Not absolutely fucking everything and their mother
Also
>6 ppm
>S4
>T4
>A2 + 1 for Choppas + 1 for hordes

>>54341067
Thanks for the input, I'll take that in account and rethink my list.

Also, maybe I'll try giving up the Jump Packs on the Death Company Squad. They're in a flying transport anyway, so they should have enough mobility as is.

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>>54341062
i think now it does not matter, but eventually when the ork codex get out, maybe we will get differents rules for differents ork klans ( sorry for my bad english, its not my primary lengugage) also im making mexican mekanics orcs, but i just brought the orks starter set and scratch built a big mek, how shoud my ork mek army grow eventually? ps: the image is an early stage of my big mecanico, i haven´t take any new photo but will do when i get home

>>54341062
Once Orks get a Codex, expect bonuses for certain Clans. For now, it doesn't matter at all.

>>54340994
As in paint scheme or as in list?

Paint scheme, do the Glooming Lords (Black Armour, Metallic Green trim). Both easy as fuck to do and a stark contrast to all the drones who just copy the box art colour scheme.

List? Take 2 Easy to Build Plague Marines boxes, then add a Helbrute. Gives you 5 Plague Marines with 2 Blight Launchers, a big distraction that gives you fire support and a second Plague Champion to count as a Chaos Lord. There, legal army from which to build.

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>>54340332
are you trying to invoke some sort of magic with that post?

>>54341062
not right now

>>54341138
Do you have a similar sort of image for the other gods?

>>54341159
>melee
Nice meme.
>t4 vs str 5 guns
Also please do da jump, free shooting is always fun.

Any nurgle Legions that use purple in their scheme? It's my Bros favorite color but he can't stand EC

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>>54341198
I've actually used Boyz to great effect, I usually run 150-ish in my lists.

>>54341067
However, you absolutely can take both a Power Sword and a Combi-weapon for a sergeant. Also, You can only take a heavy weapon OR a special weapon in a 5-man tactical squad, hence why the flamer squad doesn't have a normal flamer.

>>54341074
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Abyssal_Crusade
There you go. There's your reason and your fluff, all there for the taking.

>>54341207

>I need a canon Warband to hold my hand

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>>54341183

>>54341217
Never post this again
You should be ashamed

>>54341207
Make your own
your dudes

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>>54341217
PAINT
YOUR
MODELS

>>54341234
Why's that?

>>54340865
They are a melee unit that has to walk to battle and cannot take any transport of any sort that has no AP on their melee weapon. They're armed with bolt pistols so they can't shoot anything farther than a foot away, and they don't have any special rules like camo cloaks so not only are they walking into melee, they're walking into melee with a 3+ and a measly 2 wounds.

The only reason why Reivers won't be shot off the board is because they're such a shitty unit that shooting at them is a bad idea, as they'll just gum themselves up in your guardsmen and fail to accomplish anything.

Reivers are just another Primaris unit that nobody needed or wanted. They fill a non-existent niche.

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>>54341231

>>54341067
>You can't take Combi-Weapon + Power Weapon on Sergeants, check the Sergeant Equipment list. Only HQs can do that.
I disagree. I think the restriction means you can't take a combiplasma and a combimelta on the same model (for example), not that if you take a combiweapon then that's your sergeant's one and only choice.

>>54341217
i hope you fucked that knight

How do you thin your paints? Applying a few drops of water to the paint on the pallet?

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>>54341230
>wanting to be fluff accurate is bad
>being sonic ocs is good

>>54341241
I am literally going to my GW, getting paint and brushes, and having my friends help me batch paint all of them, right at this very moment
>>54341258
Sure did anon!

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>>54341245
his squatlets cant compete wiv DA BOYZ so hes trying to shame you

its a humie thing

>>54341241
At least they're primed. That's farther than most people at my local store ever get.

>>54341102
they aren't trash.
People say they are, but those are assholes who reduce everything to a simple "absolute best strat/utter trash" dicotomy, or who don't understand what basic marines are supposed to do.

They are supposed to be there, be tough, have decent enough shooting they can contribute, be able to add some specialized fire.

They are not specialized answers to problems presented by your opponents list, and they aren't supposed to be. But thinking that is the only thing something can contribute is reductivist to the point of blindness.

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>>54341074

They were poisoned by an Inquisitor for (whatever) reason hoping they would be wiped out. The ploy failed and they now seek vengeance against the Inquisition and the wider Imperium.

>>54340982
Yes and no. In terms of firepower, it's probably enough, but it means you'll have all your anti-tank eggs in one basket. If that unit dies, you'd have nothing.

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>>54341265
>using gw paint

>>54341289
I use Beil-Tan green to make the skintone really, really fast. Just a wash over yellow makes it go lighting quick.

>>54341254
>>54341221
I think if that were true they wouldn't have made such a big deal out of Sergeants getting this specific, limited equipment list. I read it so that you can exchange both your weapons for stuff on the list and the Combi-Weapons cost you both items at once, so you're out of options then.

>>54341265
>having my friends help me batch paint all of them
Do you help your friends batch paint their armies as well, or are you just an exploitative little shit?

>>54341289
oh fuck off, leave the guy alone.

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>>54341193
There's a second part about Nurgle daemons, mostly to illustrate that while Nurgle, GUOs, nurglings, etc. are often a lively and happy bunch, plaguebearers are as jolly as Nurgle's mortal followers, since they're made from mortals.

I mostly made these because there was a lot of talk about Nurgle and why would someone worship him, etc. So I felt like making an image or two of some snippets I've come across that gives some idea.

There is one about Khorne and how he's not entirely anti-sorcery. And I think there's one about Slaanesh and what empowers him, though I might have to see if I can find it. I'm not on my main computer, which houses all my material.

>>54341100
>>54341177
>>54341178
>>54341184
Well, that makes me concerned desu. I was thinking about bad moons because I like black/yellow paint scheme or snakebites for all these sweet orruks on boars conversions

>>54341309
They just got into the game, I bought them both a Start Collecting set as thanks, figure this would be an easy way to help them learn how to paint

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>>54341317
Khorne one.

How come plague marines in the starter have such a shit wargear? 5 bolters, one plasma and Champion with plague sword and power fist?

>>54341301
I don't read it like that. You can take two weapons from the list, but only one of them can be a two-handed weapon. All the items on that part of the list are two-handed weapons. I take as an anti-retardation measure, prventing someone from fielding two combi weapons at once.

The minis in the BA tactical squad kit are made so a Sergeant can be equipped with both a combi-weapon and a power weapon. They wouldn't write an Index in a way that contradicts their own minis.

>>54341301
Yeah but, the rules don't say anything about it costing both options at once if you take a combi-weapon. We can't just come up with interpretations from what the rules don't actually say, that way lies madness.

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>>54341335
Slaanesh one.

No Tzeentch one, though.

>>54339440
30 with bike/wings autarch and bike warlock

Optional:
(bike) Farseer, Yncarne, Yvrain
Cheapish deepstriking unit for charge screen (swooping hawks work decently)

>>54341264

>The fluff isn't already sonic oc tier

>>54341289
Citadel is always my fallback paint if I can't get a shade or result in Tamiya or Vallejo. Shame they are pricey but you really can't beat how versatile they are

>>54340837

RIEEEEEEEEEEEEEVERS

>>54341376
>Cheapish deepstriking unit for charge screen (swooping hawks work decently)
carbine scourges would be better.
cheaper, better gun, 6+ invuln.
Only disadvantage is not getting the rerolling 1's from the autarch, but you wan them to be forward not next to the autarch.

Best config for Skitarii?
Musketta men look fun, but don't wanna rec my buddy a suboptimal kit

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>>54341269
Fair enough, I know that all too well.

>>54341311
NO BULLY

What's better for a squad of ten drop podding sternguard? Combi-plas or Stormbolters?

>>54341448
Stormbolters.

>>54341426
REEEEEvers

REEE so loud enemy gets negative modifiers

>>54341447
Boy you guys here have some ancient, ancient, ancient images from 4chan 9 years ago and keep using them like nothing's wrong.

Nothing's wrong.

>>54341448
Stormbolters. 40 shots at half range. Take 9 and a captain with a SB in the same pod for rerolling them 1's.

>>54341092
It depends. Slaanesh units have a higher chance of getting the charge off first with their high movement. Also, fiends of slaanesh prevent the enemy from falling back, so that's awesome.

Pink horrors, while needed in their psychic ability, have a shooting attack now. So they have dakka in addition to durability.

Nurgle daemons aren't as hard to kill as they were in 7th, but you can still get some good combos off if you know where to ally.

Finally, Bloodletters will still outperform daemonettes in more scenarios. While daemonettes will take out more infantry over the course of continuous rounds, all Khorne daemons are fantastic if you can get that charge off, what with the bonus strength and attack. Bloodcrushers in particular are fucking scary.

>>54341217

Typical WAAC Orks players

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>>54341488

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I already posted this in /wip/ for painting advice, but this is my new chapter, the Void Knights

What do you think?

Best loadout for Scarab Occult Termies?

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>>54341505

>>54341508

Did you just straight copy ajuntapaul's paint scheme on instagram? Looks good though but the red could use more brightness

>>54341508
>Void Knights
What a creative name!


Model looks decent though.

>>54341520
Reaper AC

>>54341508
Woulddragtodarkcityarena/10

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>>54340837
>>54341426
>>54341465
So when is the imperium going to blow up in Cawl and Gilliman's face for mixing eldar technology in to their stuff?

>>54340927
Isn't that technically still more efficient then taking their points in assault marines?

>>54341488
I miss desu, we should start shitposting with antiquated memes.

>>54341528
Who the fuck is ajuntapaul

Thoughts on my list.

>Supreme Command
3 Commanders with CIB and ATS
>Supreme Command
3 Commanders with CIB and ATS
>Vanguard
2 Commanders with Plasma Rifle and ATS
6 Stealthsuits squads with Early Warning Override
2 Pathfinder Teams with Recon drone and Team leader.

There isn't a great deal of marker lights in the list, but im hoping its enough to focus down the priority targets each turn.

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>>54341465
well supposedly they got some shit built in into their mask that does exactly that

pretty FUNNY all in all

>>54341547
Right in the Relife feels, damn you!

>>54341528
Silver with a bit of red isn't that unique, I guarantee 100% someone has already made an OC chapter with those colours.

What are some BL books that write Sphess Muhreens well?

>>54341508
Me like.

>>54341547
I miss old 4chan. Old /m/, /a/ and /v/ the most.
Everything is wrong.

>>54341508
Looks nice to me. I like the scheme. Drill your barrel, consider doing a fine edge on all the most sharp steel or gold color with stormhost silver.

I know not everyone paints the inner suit, but I personally find it pretty easy on the primaris compared to older marines due to their size. If you do, skavenblight and a nuln wash is all you need.

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>>54341573
The red tithe.

>>54341508
how do you make that cool base, anon?

>>54341612
W-what's going on here?

>>54341628
Lamenters are being fuckups, as usual.

>>54341628
Carcharadons killing some traitors on Badab.

>>54341625
It's literally just Astrogranite Debris and some Tyrant Skull drybrush. Couldn't even be fucked to wash it.

>>54341652
That's the Mantis Warriors my guy.

>>54341652
That's a mantis warrior.

>>54341666
>>54341673
Lamenters are really good at not being in the picture.

>>54341695
My sides.

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>>54341488
This may be more up your alley

>>54341695
>>54341699
The Lamenters are such failures that they all tripped and fell before the holo-pict could be taken.

>>54341695
>"ceremonial mural depicting valiant last stand of the honored Lamenters chapter, as transcribed by Remembrancer Artemius IV"
>there's no Lamenters in the picture

>>54341573
>BL books
>write well


>>54341555
Sure hope the Tau Codex fixes that internal balance

>>54341612
Genestealers can rip through that like wet tissue paper. Made me think.

>>54341708
Except is not. Stop projecting.

>>54341732
Genestealers are Star Trek redshirts with lightsaber fingers

>>54341695
You were waiting for this weren't you?