MTG Modern General

1st for storm is balanced

2nd for ban storm.

3rd for Wurmcoil Engine.

4th for Utron when?

Reposting here since it's a new thread.

I want to build Sun & Moon but Chalice is too expensive.

Is it really core to the deck or can I just replace it with more interaction and still do fine ? I'm aiming at FNM level so it doesn't have to be perfect.

5th for Delver when?

>>54324606
Why would I play a 1 mana 3/2 when I could play a 1 mana 5/5?

>>54324622
3/2 with evasion friend.

>>54324629
Why evade when you can just beat through? Delver is also much easier to remove.

>>54324622
I don't know my dude, I just have a soft spot for it. It's such an elegant card.

>>54324692
It's an actual mistake though just like you

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>>54324629
I wonder why noone even considers playing this guy, is it because of the double black?

>>54324692
>Delver
>elegant
What the fuck? That little shit is the opposite of elegant.

>>54324768
Yeah. Also the flying doesn't help that much, all things considered.

>>54324768
The flying doesn't really matter.

>>54324796
>>54324810
It's a shame, I like tombstalkers art.

>>54324796
Some of my favorite games I've played of Modern and Legacy have been games where Delver flips turn two and the rest of my hand guarantees that nothing the opponent does will matter for the rest of the game.

It's just a good feeling, man

>>54325008
Yeah, it's a great card and really efficient but not elegant.

>tfw you want to play 5 colour allies but you know its janky trash
Not sure if I should go with Rally the Ancestors or CoCo, Both seem really good in the deck

Is there a newer burn primer? One that deals with shadow variants and such?

>>54325385
How can you not know how to deal with it? Just hold up your spells as long as possible and blow him out in one go. Hell he's only running 4 Death's Shadow, you can probably win by just playing a normal game most of the time.

>>54325375
Why 5C instead of like... Naya?

>>54324595

bump

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>>54325436
Tribal flames
No uh, actually its for Brigand and Shapeshifter. The only Ally from BFZ I'm using is the goblin that gives haste.
Brigand is a strictly worse survivalist, but he grows at the same rate and I'm more concerned about getting big guys than giving them vigilance or something. I'm also memeing it up with hardened scales so allies that get +1/+1 counters are kinda nuts.
Also considering running pic related considering every Ally in the deck save for 1 of them is a human

>>54325593
Well, don't let your memes be dreams, I guess.

Allies/Humans feat Scales has actually done well on occasion, but usually it's GW/Naya.

I wouldn't recommend that card btw. Just saying.

I hear people talking about some "kira lite" merfolk from the Ixalan leaks. Where is it ? I can't be assed to find it.

>>54325771
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/ixa/cards/kopalawardenofwaves.html
Look harder next time, dingus.

>>54325791
Damn Ixalan actually looks like it'll be a good set. Probably void of character and flavour once again, but the cards will be good.

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when will wizards unban mental misstep? i know everyone would run it, but having an answer, and then having that answer countered is better then having no answer at all.

>>54325888
God nailing a Goblin Guide with this thing would feel good.

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>bite the bullet and try out MTGO
>spending new player points on the New to Magic events
>four events so far, have won 3 of my 7 games to AFKs

>>54325909
In response to that they just misstep your misstep. :^)

>>54325937
But I had 7 cards remaining in hand whereas they had 5. It's more likely that I have a Misstep than them. And please, run Misstep in Burn. PLEASE. The card is like Jace at this point; only autists think it should be banned.

>>54325950
I did not play back then but did jace and stoneforge even get a chance to be played in modern or were they just banned from the start?

>When is blue going to be good again so I can run Choke and Boil in my sideboards?

>>54326011
You know you could answer this by looking up a timeline of DCI bans and restrictions, right?

It's public information, made as readily available as possible to inform every single player of all intelligence levels.

>>54325915
>choosing to play on mtgo
You did this to yourself

>>54326069
>hating MTGO based on hearsay instead of doing your own testing

It's like you don't know how charge-backs work.

>>54326040
Yeah I see, sorry.

>>54326096
All good. Not enough people are in the habit of stopping to google anything they don't understand.
I blame public education teaching children to "use context clues" instead of just reaching for the dictionary when they see a new word.

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is Magic too expensive?

>>54326116
No. I like my purchases to hold their value so I can resell them as necessary.

t. Wendy's Chef

>>54326116
God I miss when her face wasn't all fucked up from the lip work.

Looks like Wizards might have just broken Modern by accident again.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/against-the-odds-solemnity-modern

>>54326455
We've had Solemnity as a creature since 2011, newfag.

>>54326482
Except we literally didn't. The closest effect we've seen is Vizier and that wasn't too long ago.

>>54326518
He's talking about Melira but he's a baka

>>54325909
>shocking yourself to avoid two damage
Genius

>>54326560
>Goblin Guide only does two damage
Also you only have to shock if you're on the draw

>>54326518
>Vizier
Goddamn you're dumb.

These are the people who post in the Modern General.

>>54326618
Not an argument

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>>54326618
>why can't every cardboard slinger be as superior as me

/r/ing trav telling me about those stairs bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkxLsQ7sxM

>>54326033
Do you play Spreading Algae to shit on black decks? It's fun when Shadow players read it.

>>54327473
I play that shit alongside Urborg for max fun

>>54327468
What's his name again?

>>54327644
>>54327473
men of class

>>54327725
JIBUN WOO

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>tfw you're playing a complete fucking pile of shit
Its fun sometimes

>>54327468
>TedX
>Travis Woo
I respect the man for bringing us Living End but you seriously cannot expect me to watch something that combines two fucking horrible things and expect it to be good.

>>54326482
Melira doesn't hose Affinity, just Infect. She's also a Creature, so she dies to much more removal than Solemnity does, and since she's Legendary, you can't have multiple copies of her out.

>>54325854
Good, but not good enough in this case

>>54326116
No, standard is a sub $100 investment until rotation. Modern can be a sub $300 investment and still be competitive. Commander can obviously be done sub $100 and still produce a decent result. The only people magic is too expensive for is the people who buy how wizards wants you to, in packs.

>>54326455
How many times are you going to post this with people telling you its shit? Coco deck - coco is not as good every time

>>54327878
then dont cry when you get knee arthritis from stairing wrong
He tried to warn you about those stairs bro

>>54327865
I love allies, preferred route being Excavator mill with Rally/Ranks etc

Keep up the good fight!

>titanshift player bolts himself to counter his opponents timely reinforcements
L e l

>>54328570

In some cases that would be a good play.

>>54326081
Don't need to spend money on something just to charge-back when I could just play for free on xmage, friendo

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I'm not sure what this nigger was trying to do, but I fucking sat there with only one land for like 5 turns

>>54328033
300$ is expensive to me at least.

>>54328924
Get a job.

>>54328924
t. Wendy's chef

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>>54328033
>standard is a sub $100 investment until rotation
Since when?

I agree with you but let's not give people false hope.

>>54328924
You probably own a phone worth more than that.

>>54328924
God damn whats it like being 17

>>54329136
>Impliying a phone isn't more useful or fun than mtg

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>>54327473
God daaaaaaaaaamn

This is going in my BUG Loam Pox pile of jank so fast

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>>54328924
Chinamen fakes are the solution to your problems

>>54328881
I think we just played lol. I was the Skred guy you got flooded against.

How does your deck win?

>>54329183
A tiered modern deck(barring a ban)will last you just as long as a phone.

>>54326011
Very briefly, stonegorge I think had two months, and was banned just because they were scared of what it did in standard.

>>54328924
Original anon, i could flame you like everyone else did but seriously. If you can't scrape together $300 in a couple months of savings you should find a better job desu. Try pauper, i hear tell its cheap

I played a guy on xmage whos room said "fast play plz", he proceeded to ensnaring bridge me two out of three games. The irony amazes me

>>54329226
i've had the same phone for like 15 years or something. old samsung flip made out of the same shit they made brick gameboys out of.

>>54329217
It wins by actually drawing creatures, something that didn't happen that game. >>54327865 The general plan is to go insane with +1/+1 counters on your guys. Now that I think about it, it might be good to run a metalic mimic or two in the list...

>>54329412

That's not ironic. You know what he means.

>>54329413
Never played beatdown allies, but Mimic is a really underrated card, could be sweet to test it. One game I drew running Mimics and just curved them out, game was won solely by Kaladesh jank.

That card bumped illusion tribal all the way up to tier 6

alright you kekolds time for another stupid fucking blogpost

3-0-1 FNM tonight playing RG Titanshift

>Round 1 vs. Titan-breach (2-0)
>he's on the play but I drew more ramp than he did and scapeshift the win, nice and easy
>game 2 I start with leyline of sanctity and fuck his plans up
>he breaches a titan to hit me for 6 and nuke the fuck out of my courser of kruphix, then dies to scapeshift the next turn

>Round 2 vs. jeskai control (2-0)
>I throw a titan into a counterspell
>summoner's pact another titan he has to bolt-snap-bolt, hinting the lack of counterspell?
>untap, pay for pact, top deck scapeshift and he scoops
>game 2 I know he's bringing in more counters so I play conservatively
>throw chandra and scapeshift into counterspells, resolve a titan, it eats helix and bolt breakfast
>top deck another titan and slam it
>end up with most of my mountains and 3 valakuts in play, scapeshift for 3 lands just to finish him off

>Round 3 vs. bant humans (2-0)
>G1 I keep a hand of 5 lands and 2 ramp spells
>he goes on the champion of the parish beat down
>I get fucked up and dropped to ~5 life
>keep drawing lands, flooding out
>top deck scapeshift at the last possible turn and slap it down
>go to game 2
>keep a hand with 2 bolts, which keeps him from facefucking me
>find a prime time and get it down, send valakut triggers at his dudes fearing a critical mass/group blocks
>swing and he cocos into double mirran crusader to block prime time
>we argue for a moment about if prime time can trample over them (he can)
>prime time dies, summoner's pact and slap another one down sending valakut triggers to the crusaders to clear his board again
>he draws a card then packs his stuff up without saying a word

>Round 4 vs. affinity
>Opponent says he has to leave, asks very nicely for ID
>don't mind being friendly, take ID even though I kind of wanted to try the match.

>>54330355
Matches aren't really blogpost desu. They're pretty informative as to how matchups can play out.

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hooo boy

>>54324595
your chalice is gonna be in the side anyway

at fnm level just replace chalice with sideboard targeted matchups, dragons claw for storm and burn etc

>>54330552
>falling for the meme
The absolute madman

>>54329193
Chinaman fakes arent cheap either, that chink would probably charge me 200 dollars for all the important pieces of E tron

>>54330552
>yes

>>54330355
Damn titanshift sounds easy

If I wanna play tokens on a semi budget,should I buy the precon and upgrade as I go or just toss together a budget list?

>>54330552

What happened here?

>>54330940
i wouldn't say it's 'easy' so much as it is consistent. the jund of combo decks, if you will.

never a bad choice and completely punishes loose play by the opponent.

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>>54331020
i said something to the effect of 'you know you're dead to flickerwisp hitting unlife, right?' while i drawstep thoughtknot displacer him with an untapped aether vial on 3. he conceded G2 and the match on partial information from my bluff.

the joke is that mike long once bluffed a pro tour in a similar fashion, threatening pros-bloom drain life while having sideboarded out his only copy of drain life. he begins the combo, goes through it and the opponent concedes without ever actually having SEEN the win condition.

>>54331080
>lying just to win when nothing is on the line
Sad!

>>54331167
Its mindgames anon. One time i got a 5/5 flier past an 18/18 hydra with reach because I didnt activate a trigger. He already drew his card after upkeep before he even realized what he did.

Huh, the newish budget vehicles deck on goldfish actually looks kinda fun. Would it be worth building if I've no black staples other than Inquisitions so far?

>>54331262
>activate a trigger
rrrrreeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54331167
I sometimes try to casr cards throught calice
It worked once, and won me the game

>>54331437
Well it it had a may clause.

>>54331326
How in the shit should we know? Just go make it.

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Does Teferi shut off Bring to Light? Casting a spell mid-resolution isn't sorcery speed.

>>54330574
Chalice is a 4 of mainboard in R/W prison my dude

>>54331686
"no"

>>54331326
Let me tell you something about the MTGGoldfish budget decks.

They are not worth Tier 3 and most of the time, their "upgraded" version isn't either. They also make you buy non staple cards that you won't be able to resell after. Also, the few demo games Seth is playing to showcase the decks are tailored to make the decks look good : he either pick the games where he did good or games against other garbage tier decks.

Tldr : if you want a true budget deck, pick an existing tier deck with replacements for the expensive parts and upgrade them later.

>>54331326
A good semi budget deck would be some kind of UBx delve shell. Get 4 Thought Scours, 4 Anglers, hell 4 Tasigurs for now just because they're actually pretty cheap. You won't have the fetchlands though which is sort of a thing.

>>54331743
Doesn't he play in leagues usually meaning he can't cherry pick the games?

>>54331890

He does, but not for Budget decks. Notice how the event number is never the same from one video to another for videos of the same deck.

>>54331979
No, he doesn't play leagues for any of the videos on the main channel. On his steam, and videos of his steam, he does leagues. You can skip to the end of any game on the main channel and see him getting either 30 or 5 play points, the rewards for win/loss in the match queues on MTGO.

I don't understand, why does Counter Company not run more sac outlets instead of stuff like Scooze or Dusckwatch ?

Sure, you can tutor for your Seer with Chord but wouldn't it be nicer to have more of them in your deck so you can combo of more easily ?

>>54332009
Chances are of your opponent isn't interacting with your combo pieces, your combo is either too slow anyway, or you'll be able to find your pieces and win easily enough
if they are interacting, you don't want to be stuck with a bunch of sac outlets which are useless on their own

>>54329136
>buying a phone

>>54332041
I don't see how a Scooze is better than a Cartel Aristocrat in most situations.

>>54332220
Well for one you can chord for it against dredge

I think I've decided to build Turns. It's been a blast to play, and I think I'll play mono blue and mess around with other colors to see what I like best. Any advice on sideboard materials?

>>54328050
This isn't a CoCo deck, dude. There's far too many spells in it for that. Coco is a creature deck, while this is focused on control and combo; it literally consists entirely of removal and combo pieces.

>>54327865
Cavern of Souls

>>54326116
Varies from format to format.

One 'format' I heard of is the MTGO format "penny dreadful". Card legality is literally based off the price of the cards.

>>54325593
do you live in australia? because i'm all but certain you're doing something my friend is doing

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Thoughts on my S&M shitbrew ? No CotV because fuck paying 100 bucks for a piece of cardboard. Also, looking for possible replacements for Aven Mindcensors.

>>54333511
How worthwhile are the Spirit Guides without the CotVs? I assume CotV is at least half the reason people would run the spirit guides

>>54333617
For turn 2 Blood Moon but yhea, they are loosing value without chalice. I was thinking maybe run Ensnaring Bridge too.

Did that new curse make mill more viable?

Hey i know its the modern thread, but i want fnm promo fatal pushes and renegade ralliers. And apparently its only through standard now.

The format looks so agonizingly slow, why is no one running burn?? I mean shock is in standard and no one uses it.
I want to build a shell around t1 bloodlust inciter, t2 honored crop captain, t3 combat celebrant or haneweir garrison.

Ideas?

>>54327926

Melira can be insta tutored

As can anafeza

>>54332460

exactly, it is a shitty version of coco that instadies to gv hate, can't tutor its combopiece effectively, has no ramp and has no secondary game plan

>>54331326

Look, a cheap version of living end will still get you wins.

>>54333734
You mean Fraying Sanity? I hope so.

>>54332220
>I don't see how a growing creature with life gain and graveyard hate stapled on is better than a 2/2 sometimes unlockable sometimes combo piece

>>54333734
Mill will never be anything resembling viable.
It is and forever will be a newbie's trap.

>>54333940
You mean a sometimes growing, sometimes lifegain creature, and you have to pay for it as well.

>>54331686
I think yes because Sorcery speed is "main phase on your turn while the stack is empty" and the stack isn't empty because it has Bring to Light on it.

>>54333777
Yes, play a real fucking deck or find an FNM that gives participation prizes and bring a pile of draft chaff. Making a shitty, neutered rdw in midrange the format is a fucking retarded idea.

>>54333964
It's got more use cases than cartel fucking aristocrat

>>54334044
Not in a combo deck that relies on a sac outlet to go off. Unless you are going to argue that Devoted Company wins by beatdown ?

>>54333962
>patrician's burn
>newbie trap
Yeah right.

>>54334063
A sac outlet you can tutor for

>Do I think a deck that runs hierarch and township and is a slightly altered Abzan Coco list wins by beatdown sometimes?

Yes

>>54334142
As long as eldrazi titans exist, my dude, mill will be tier 16 where it belongs.

>>54330596
Fakes cost literal pennies you retard.

>>54333511
mindcensor can be oblivion ring

lightning helix can be runed halo

>>54333511
I would just change nahiri for baneslayer angel. Death shadow never expects best waifu to break their shits

Also at least 1 Wrath of God instead of 1 anger.
4 chandras, 2 baneslayers, 2 ajani and change the emrakul for a outpost siege.
and if you are not playing fucking chalice why aren't you packing 4 fucing bolts? also no ghostly prison wtf?

>>54331743
you are 100% correct, and I've told that to many people at my LGS, but let me say one thing

the BW aristocrat deck he did that one time is actually pretty sweet and has solid game against many tiered decks. the non-budget version I mean.

>>54334747
The BW aristocrat deck has a much better version in Abzan colors that died off a while ago.

>>54334512
They cost approximately a dollar a card if bought in sets of 50; $3/card as singles. You're both wrong.

And I'd sooner pay $1-3 for an almost indistinguishable Liliana of the Veil than $100 for a real one.

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>>54333342
No I'm a Maple syrup sucking, poutine eating moose fucker

>>54332937
I don't wanna run cavern because I've got 16 non ally cards already
And frankly Encampment's flicker is probably more relevant than being uncounterable.

>>54334142
>none of the spells double as removal
>every spell is less efficient
>its a fucking blue deck
>somehow it is "patrician's burn"
You are fucking gay

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>>54326116
yes, unless you're already neck deep in childrens card game investments and now vehemently defend the inflated card prices, because the game becoming cheaper would devalue your cardboard that you bought with your hard earned autismbux

Which version of Jeskai control is superior? Spell quellers or planeswalkers?

>>54335968
As someone who owns chinamen Lillies, they are far from indistinguishable.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lmyeXJyyfRTO14gUEs0Cob22MFFfliGNuECO08wmrPw

Trying to sell this lot. How do I value it? Some guy is offering like $100.

>>54336598
Take your shit to your LGS
They'll probably give you about 60% of what it is actually worth, but that is essentially your only real option. Maybe try selling to highschool kids who are playing? Unless you've got playsets of most of your trash on't EDH players are gonna be interested.

>>54336598
are you in a hurry to make the money? are you quitting mtg completely?

i mean selling all your stuff in bulk is always going to make less money than slowly trading/selling it away a few cards at a time

>>54336794
Yeah I'm getting out of it, other hobbies and life stuff have been taking up my time and money.

I'd rather just sell it all in a short manner than take a month or two to sell it for an extra $100-$200

>>54336831
if you don't care about money that much then i'd go over to some lgs kids and giving them the cards for free to play with, rather than let some neckbear keep them in a binder somewhere

>>54335968
>indistinguishable
>implying

>>54336517
The superior version is whichever version is more fun anon ;>)
But I would say jeskai flash is better, as jeskai wants to be more draw-go than wu right now, which is more tap out control with spreading seas and planeswalkers.

Playing: RUW the thing ascension and sun and moon, does anyone know any other fun decks sporting red?
Hating: tron, T1 thoughtseizes hitting critical pieces

Does anyone actually enjoy playing u/w control? It's such a painstakingly boring having to wait on them to draw something to actually go on the offense with

>>54337957
>does anyone know any other fun decks sporting red?
burn

>>54337986
I have mono red burn deck, is it worth it to make it multi colored?

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>>54337957
Herd u talkin shit lik i woodnt find out

>>54336884

He didn't say he didn't care about money, he just said he wanted the extra $100-$200, and that's it.

Also
>Kids
>playing magic

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>>54338011
Don't be silly anon, mountains don't win games

>>54338078
it do wen u use it to rev fo 15 mufugga

>>54338007
Not that anon, but yes it is

>>54338007
Yes
Red White Pride world-wide my dude.

>Join Casual queues on Xmage so I can fuck around and play bad decks
>7 games in a row I'm stuck playing against T1 decks
Do these niggers not know what casual means?

>>54337957
>Thing Ascension

people are still playing that? I'm curious what your list is like

>>54338282
people think it means "i will play a t1 deck, but will play it so badly that it might as well be t3" as far as i can tell from my time of playing edh on xmage

>UW monument in modern

do you guys think the deck has legs? I wanted to build UW dorks with looter scooter but the monument deck seems legit to me

>>54325375
how about Tazri?

>>54338289
It's not the best deck around but really fun. If you manage to get an ascension going you're gonna close the game out soon
4x bolt
4x lightning helix
4x thing in the ice
4x thought scour
4x serum visions
4x sleight of hand
4x manamorphose
3x visions from beyond
4x faithless looting (testing)
3x bedlam reveler
4x pyromancer's ascension

I don't know the lands off the top of my head

all of your cards have dissappeared, but you get the choice of one fat pack and a deck builder's toolkit, or a deckbuilder's toolkit and a planeswalker pack. Anything goes.

>>54338026
Children aged 13-18 are the primary market for this game.

>>54338740
This is the modern thread buddy, if you want to buy shitty WotC product make a new thread.

>>54338781
Ha, how fucking long is that going to last.

Wizards will steal their $100 from intro pack shit, they'll show up to FNM, realize that their shit is getting pushed in with $300+ so they or their parents go, "Fuck this, here's an XBox instead."

>>54339088
>>54338781
This is exactly why i tell my students not to bother with FNM. They can play their precons and shitbrews without feeling like they need to beg their heroin addict parents for a modern deck. I'll let adulthood crush their spirit later

>>54339088
>>54339212
they could always make mtg cheaper to play

>>54333734
Mill will never be viable.
Any archetype that dies simply to having a single copy of Emrakul in your opponents deck is a shit one.
Of course I'm talking about a version of mill that doesn't make sure to exile.

>>54339337
Wendy's Chef here, Magic is perfectly affordable.
Get a job, poorerfag.

>>54339337
When has any company ever taken the steps to put long-term sustainability and a satisfied customer base who appreciates stability and quality over short-term fast growth that sells to retards with too much money and no self-control.

In 10 years the amount of things that have gotten worse or just removed from the game grossly outweighs the amount of things that have gotten better.

In fact, I can't name anything that has gotten better; because any positives steps made in the past decade have since been removed from the game. Whatever good thing you attempt to name I can name a mountain of things that negate its value.

>>54339337
Arguably magic is as expensive or only slightly too expensive to play competitively as it should be. You can invest $300 and be end boss FNM level. You can also invest $100 and go 2-2 every night.

If you can't afford the deck you want then buy pieces and save money over time. If you have the money to drop you can buy into multiple decks at $300 which would open up more decks to play later.

Realistically though, what could wizards do to cheapen the game? More reprints?

>>54339442
>what could wizards do to cheapen the game? More reprints?
yes? just put a staple or two as incidental reprints in every single supplemental product.

>but then the spikes would buy them all and timmy couldn't get one to use at his kitchen table!
HOW ABOUT FUCKING PRINT MORE? SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TAKE OUR GOD DAMN MONEY WE'RE LITERALLY FUCKING TRIPPING OVER OURSELVES TO SHOVE IN YOUR POCKETS??????

>>54339442
>If you can't afford the deck you want then buy pieces and save money over time.
You know the expression, "he's not playing with a full deck?"; in the current state of Magic it applies. Pretty much never is there a functional substitute for most cards unless you're playing Burn or Affinity where redundancy is king.

>Realistically though, what could wizards do to cheapen the game? More reprints?
Yes. And control distribution such that only brick and mortar stores have access. So many reprints that all the small online stores die.

That's the fucking problem here. That prices are so outrageous that any dipshit can start up their own little online market. That means the entire distribution of cards is spread throughout all these tiny stores undercutting each other who don't give back to communities by offering play spaces. You restrict product to LGSs and online stores with a brick and mortar store front and you'll put the control of this game back into the hands of the people who put in the majority of the work to promote the fucking game.

By that same reasoning you stop Gamestop, Target, and Walmart from getting product too.

Will the game be better for it? Yes. Will Wizards lose truckloads of money? Yes and that why they'll never do it.

>>54324458
Gone for a week, anything interesting happen?
i was at vacation and got some jank stuffs from a friend. humans, a full set of everflowing chalices, stuff from SoI.

>>54339442
Reprints would cause panic and increased hording.
See: Fetchlands. The Khans reprint was new and scared the market. Prices fell. Investors lost money, and many began hording Khans boxes for that sweet, sweet EV when the new supply dries up.
More importantly, they learned to adapt. Note that the MM3 Enemy fetch reprints have done little if anything to the price.

Simply put, reprints at Rare is not actually a reprint. There are new cards on the market, yes, but for each new card, there's a new Timmy who wants to buy the four fetches he didn't pull for this EDH deck.

I can point to the recent reprint of Cryptic Command as an Invocation, which actually caused other printings of Cryptic to increase in price.

Reprints do not work unless Wizards makes a focused effort to print cards into the ground.
Rare are not real reprints.

>>54326179
Who?

>>54339473
Are you advocating for reprints in standard sets? I think wizards stock excuse is that those cards would warp the format. Beyond that i think that type of policy would have even less of an impact on prices than the MM sets do

>>54339526
This post reeks of salty grognard who thinks the internet is ruining everything.

>>54339428
magic is perfectly affordable if you're a wendy's chef whose only desire in life is to play a childrens card game

magic is a lot less affordable to a person who is only interested in playing, but not committed. i remember being a small child and being interested in wh40k because damn those orks were cool, but then i read the first price tag and was like nah. the same thing is happening to mtg. i have a friend who likes playing card games and is definitely the kind of person who would love mtg, but he's lived in close proximity to people who actually play mtg and he thinks the time/money commitment involved is scary, especially when he can just play shadowverse or eternal or something to get similar kicks.

afaik, MTG is bleeding players on most fronts. commander and limited are supposedly the most played formats, and i would attribute about 80% of that to the much lower price tag, and in commander's case, the decreased pressure to have a competitively viable deck

>>54339436
yeah, i'd imagine the bubble has to burst at some point. i'm reading a lot of stories about people quitting mtg, and not that many stories about people being excited to buy 500 dollars for a childrens card game

>>54339442
>Realistically though, what could wizards do to cheapen the game? More reprints?

yeah? sadly wotc has already bent its knee to the sweaty collector crew, and now it's going to be hard for them to actually go back and reprint goyf at a rare rarity in a set with 2-3 dollar boosters.

wotc has decided that they want to milk the dedicated players at the cost of gaining new players, so any action they take towards making the game cheaper is going to actively annoy the already milked whales whose collections will devalue

even with the hundreds of dollars i've spent on silly cardboard, i'd still take the deal of making all my cards worth next to nothing, because i just love building and playing new decks in mtg more than having sick cardboard investments

>>54339526
I know the expression but its also not exactly what i meant. Lower decks like BW tokens give you pieces like inquisition, path, push, and some useful cards in other shells. If you bought into something like that you could expand it to a higher tier deck and have some of the pieces already.

And I'm not sure what kind of stores you're complaining about. Are you complaining because timmy sells his cards online at the same price the LGS sells at? I don't think thats necessarily true. There are facebook groups full of people selling their stock at below trading price, but that doesn't disprove your observation. I think this anon>>54339543
is ultimately right about reprints

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>>54339549
did you actually fucking read my post? I didn't mention standard anywhere

KEY WORDS

"SUPPLEMENTAL"
AND
"PRODUCT"

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I went from 5 colour to 4, and now I'm down to 3
Bant seems to be giving me the best results. Red has some nice explosive stuff, but Bant seems to let me avoid Mana-screwing best. Not sure If I should also run a Sea Gate Wreckage or not.

>>54339661
What sort of stuffs are you doin dood

>>54339644
So they should reprint one or two cards in the few supplemental products that they make, which have limited printing runs? No, I was giving you the benefit of not being that retarded.

Oy vey goyems we put goyf in archenemy now only $160 shekels

>>54339689
how about put goyf and lotv and maelstrom pulse and bob and a few fetch lands in duel deck "JUND VS GARBAGE PILE" $19.99 msrp reprinted 1,000,000 copies per day until people use goyfs for fucking kindling?

>>54339701
You have no idea how much sealed product SCG, CardKingdom, etc., all purchase from Wizards, do you?

I'm willing to bet they make up more of the sealed purchases than most flyover states.

>>54339728
what does that have to do with my post?

>>54339701
because if they did that, then i would go to maro's tumblr blog and call him a fucking asshole dickhead for devaluing my 5 playsets of goyfs that i bought as investments because i'm too retarded to buy blue chip stocks

>>54339701
And then when your LGS goes out of business you'll be shocked. Thats not how shit works man, if they made that DD it'd sell for $200 aftermarket and you wouldn't find any left in stores. If they did 1000000 printings then stores would lose thousands of dollars overnight. You can bitch about dipshits hoarding cards, but thats how your LGS survives not from the $10 you spend there once a week to play and eat

>>54339745
Online retailers don't cater to the casual audience like an LGS making money off FNM does.
They've very much more focused on competitive players. SCG hosts tournaments for a reason.

Killing the value of staple cards like that kills SCG, CardKingdom, etc., business. It kills multiple massive buyers from Wizards.

>>54339749
then le wolf of mtg street can just get fucking FUCKED for being stupid enough to invest in product whose supply can decuple overnight by one business's whim.

should have invested in something not retarded, bucko.

>>54339761
my LGS is going to make a fucking killing by unloading 4x duel decks per modern player who wants those sweet fucking staples. they'll more than make up what they lost on their devalued inventory

>>54339804
You don't economics do you. In what world does $80 (20x4) come out to the price of those cards individually. So yes, they might sell a shit ton of them, but they'll still lose a ton of value on their total inventory

>>54339823
not really. they're just going to sell a shit load more.

>>54339849
Every player could walk in and buy eight fucking duel decks and they'd STILL lose money. Dont even open a business anon

>>54339862
if every player bought 8 duel decks then that would already be a larger profit than my stores entire inventory is even worth. not including the reserve list counter.

>>54339634
Let's say that in a community there are 20 copies of a card available for circulation. These are not cards in the hands of players, these are cards in the hands of stores and online stores.

If a single store had all 20 copies, they could sell the card for whatever it would take to move it. But because those cards are divided between lets say 5 stores (one brick and mortar and four online basement shops), then each store only has a playset. And so because the card is so "rare" they all charge a stupid bloated inflated price and because the online stores are selling on the online market as well, those cards leave the community, leaving a drought of product available locally.

This is only possible because the price of cards are high enough for these online stores to make it a profitable use of time to acquire, package, and ship these few high-value singles they acquire.

If the price of cards was rock-bottom, then only the most efficient stores could survive due to the volume they move, namely the brick and mortars and the Starcity Games companies. There is too much goddamn money and value in this game and it's being spread throughout too many stores, which negatively impacts the ability for stores that provide play space to operate. Brick and mortars have to deal with selling everything - the bullshit no-profit: FNM, prereleases, junk singles and the online stores can survive just by selling the primo singles content. The brick and mortars are hurt because they have to put up with rules and bullshit and they don't even have access to all the sweet kickback from the high value singles.

If prices went down, then players would have the incentive to sell their cards to the store out of sheer convenience. If a card was $5 retail and the store gives you $2.50 for it, then they'll do that because it's just more convenient. But cards are fucking $100 and the store will only give you $50 and you look at yourself and say, "I can sell that on the Internet.

>>54339875
Eight duel decks is $160. What kind of shit hole LGS do you go to anon?

>>54339661

Sea gate is a shit card the just barely works as a 1-of in eldrazi tron because of how much mana they can make

>Get back from work
>Load up Twitch
>SCG is on
>Oh boy time to watch some Moder-
>It's standard
>Turn on EVO instead

>>54340113
Do you know what id give to have modern events streaming? I might sound like a faggot, but if you gave me smash bros level hype at events i'd stream them all weekend long. I know its a lot harder to do with a card game but anything is better than the hushed quit of watching two asspies pass priority for an hour

>>54339442
>You can invest $300 and be end boss FNM level.

what a laugh. Everyone at my FNM is using copy-pasted tier-one decks. $300 decks earn you the privilege of going 1-4 (your sole win coming from some poor noob who decided to wander in from Standard with their zombie deck they thought was "super sweet").

>>54326179
WHO?!

>>54340241
I know we're in the Modern thread but he's obviously talking about Standard where $300 makes you boss level.

$300 in Modern gets you a pat on the butt and a "nice try champ".

>>54339442
You can invest 300$ with fakes and have an actual deck

They could print lands at commons(or uncommon if they care about pauper)
They could print removal at common(or uncommon blabla, and not the not!rare rarity of push)
They could print staples every month for fnm prices
Duels decks or intro pack with meaningfull cards could help too

>>54340241
Slightly pedantic but I went 2-2 with Utron at FNM
>>54340411
Yes standard is more in line with my budget. But I don't want either of you to talk like $300 is something to laugh at in modern. http://sales.starcitygames.com/deckdatabase/deckshow.php?event_ID=36&t[T2]=28&start_date=2017-07-02&end_date=2017-07-02&state=VA&city=Roanoke&order_1=finish&limit=8&t_num=1&action=Show+Decks

>>54340411

For standard, $300 buys you the privilege of showing up, seeing four other people, then the LGS canceling the event and handing out pity prizes to everyone who showed up.

>>54340460
Fakes can't beat a jeweler's lens you fag.
If your location does deck checks (mine does) you'll get fucked eventually.

>>54340460
The fact you fell for the not!rare meme about push is all the argument i need

>>54340492
The usually don't even need to go under a loupe because most of them are really shitty desu

>>54340492
If your store owner and judges hate their lives and time enough to deck check with a fucking lens, then things are exceptionally even shittier than I had thought.

My Vintage decks are all proxied. My store owner is cool with it - it's fucking better than having ZERO people to play with.

>>54340492
Mine does not and player assume you have the cards because they want to play

And again, if someone look at your fakes closely, he will catch you
I'm just saying it's the only way to have a competitive modern deck for 300$
>Imb4 mono red burn and mono green stompy
So not!burn and not a deck ?

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>at fnm last night
>sit down across from overweight fellow wearing a MAGA t-shirt with a huge picture of trump's face on it
>pls no
>his turn one is seachrome coast into sleight of hand, suspend lotus bloom
>oh god please fucking no
>playing elves
>try my fucking hardest but phyrexian unlife fogs me on my lethal swing and he goes off next turn
>board in thoughtseize and duress
>first 7 is no lands
>6 is one forest and all 3 drops + duress
>5 is 3 lands and 2 nettle sentinels
>lose horribly
>go home and drink until I pass out to forget the pain
>just woke up at 5pm, don't feel like living anymore
they don't make water hot enough to scrub away that trauma

>>54340512
How an uncommon was almost as expensive as a fetchland reprint is beyond me if it's not for that then

>>54340565
Vintage is a different situation senpai

>>54340736
No it fucking isn't.

Just because Vintage and Legacy are dead and strangled by the Reserve List doesn't mean the price situation and pseudo-strangulation of supply in Modern won't kill it dead eventually as new players refuse to pay whatever the fuck it costs for a land base.

We're all in this together. If any part of the game suffers then it's a fucking problem for all of us.

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>>54340614

>>54340779
did you JUST fucking make that to respond to me?

10/10

>>54337957
I do enjoy playing against UW control because it isn't just some slight permutation of a deck I have been playing against for the last three years. It also requires me to play differently than against most other decks.

>>54340706
Jews duh

>>54339634
>if you spend $400 making bw tokens you only need to spend $600 to make another deck because you have push and inquisition already

This is a stupid argument.

>>54339761
>devaluing singles will kill all LGSs!

This is what retards who have never managed a store actually believe

>>54340565
>MY LGS LETS ME PROXY THIS $32000 DECK! SO IF YOURS DOESN'T LET YOU PROXY THAT $600 DECK THEY'RE SHIT

or you're a retard

>>54340614
>>board in thoughtseize and duress
>not boarding in Rec Sage
you deserved to lose desu

Alright bois, the idea came from playing draft and trying to make a super annoying mill deck and at the same event pulling a masterpiece avater of woe. Base idea is me discarding my own returnable creatures and some of my opponents too. This lets me charge up for the avatar of woe combo with thornbite and get some sweet sweet board clear. will this work and if not how retarded am i deck. tk/1vdt1zIT

>>54341450
i play rec sage main. 3 robot players at my lgs

>>54341603
Boards in Modern aren't worth sweeping.

t. UWx player

>>54341603
Why not just reanimate a grislebrand and win?

>>54341802
I'm retarded, care to explain in detail?

>>54341622
This conflicts with information that UWx running Supreme Verdict can have some fun against GDS.

>>54342070

>implying they haven't thought-seized it out of your hand

>>54342107
Ban Thoughtseize. Vintage level cards shouldn't be in this format

>>54342260
Burnfag here
I don't want thoughtsize banned because it hurts the user
IoK is the real problem, it hits 90% of everything with no drawback

Anybody planning on putting any HoD cards in their deck?

>>54342295

Wow, no. Nobody cares what the burn player thinks.

>>54342297
I'm putting one, maybe two, copies of that Burn Desert land in Burn.

That's it.

I was hoping for more Living End upgrades but there are none. No, I'm not playing that Golem.

Problem with decks like Jund or Delver is that they're so fucking tuned for power that it would take only the printing of the most broken shit to update them.

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>>54342297
nothing stands out to me, HoD very much seems like a band-aid to fix standard after all the bans

lots of cool EDH stuff I suppose

>>54342355

Yeah same.

I'm hoping Solemnity finds some modern use. Even fringe decks, so long as they're viable.

>>54342297
If there was a card with persist outside of finks that was actually playable I would unironically play The Scorpion God

>>54342297
I'm trying claim/fame as a 2 of in affinity

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>>54342295
you're a FUCKING BURN PLAYER, who cares what you think?

>>54342333
>I'm putting one, maybe two, copies of that Burn Desert land in Burn.

don't you ever leave /tg/ to stop shitposting

I swear I've seen you here every day talking about that awful land and getting into arguments with people about it.

>>54342333

Wait, you're going to use five lands to shock somebody?

You're just as likely to take 7 damage from that land from being forced to use it.

>>54342487
You got the wrong guy. I guess it's shitposting regardless.

>>54342516
One copy isn't going to kill you any more than one copy is going to win you a game. Biggest reason why I want it is because it's more interesting than a Mountain.

>>54342575

That's true. The most boring part of burn is the lands.

>>54342297
Djeru's Renounciation is okay, but Feeling of Dread and Send to sleep do what it does better. Cycle for W isn't enough.

None of these are good cards anyway.

>>54342575
Personally I would much rather play Keldon Megaliths. I'd much rather have it be repeatable if I'm stuck in a topdeck war.
But really they should just reprint Barbarian ring

How do people feel about claim to fame?

>>54342380
I would rather see ever card fail to make it into Modern, just as a testament to how weak the set is.
>Unsummon is unironically in the top 5 removal picks

>>54342632
I highly doubt it will make it into GDS lists like everyone thinks.
What would they cut? Some Anglers since it doesn't hit those?

>>54342659

Yeah idk, the whole selling point is 1 mana return a thing to the battlefield, but deaths shadow is already 1 mana so the card may just be outclassed by kolaghans command and not be worth a slot

>>54342632
overhyped

>>54342659

It definitely doesn't make sense in GDS because anglers and tasigurs

Makes more sense in Jund with death shadow and goyfs and maybe grim flayers

If the Fame half of Claim To Fame was instant, would you consider it more?

>>54342740

Idk, does giving haste at instant speed actually help?

>>54342740
>//Fame as Instant
Since it would be strictly better, it would be foolish not to consider it more.
The problem is that there's still no acknowledged home for Fame//. At least one face of the Aftermath cards need to be worthwhile to justify bringing the other half along.

Pass.

>>54342816
>no acknowledged home for Fame//
No acknowledged home for Claim//, excuse me.

>>54342632
I'm going to try it in some sort of grixis pile list with snaps and JVP to see what sort of stupid shit it can do but I have my doubts that it will be as good as people are hyping it up to be

>>54342816

>at least one face of the aftermath need to be worthwhile

Did you mean to say both faces? It's obviously claim that people are somewhat interested in, not fame

>>54342830
>>54342843

Oh gotcha

>>54342807

Might buff goyf more, can buff a chump blocker to be threatening, can buff Grim Flayer so he can trample over a 4/5 goyf (can also debuff enemy gofy because a card is leaving graveyard) in some situations.

I got no real reason for the change, just asking cause people might think of something I won't.

>if you possibility storm into an aftermath card MTGO bugs out and the match restarts
not something I expected to see in modern but still

>>54343162
MTGO is a joke.
A minimally viable product, for a major franchise, with an expected time to fix all of their issues standing at 60-90 days to a year to forever.

Shit like this is why Eternal was actually able to get off the ground.

>>54343204
This is the 3rd MTGO bug I've encounter ever, stop over reacting

>>54339442
Reprints that do not come in packs that cost $10 and are super limited.

Like how limited was the print run of mm17? My lgs was sold out four days after release.

>>54343229
Well, you can't change Wizards because they ain't fucking listening.

So the question is, are you shaming the fuck out of the people who bought this useless overpriced dogshit?

>>54343229

MM17 doesn't seem limited at all. All of its cards lowered in price a good amount.

>>54343229
>My lgs was sold out four days after release.
weird, all the stores around were I'm at still have cases upon cases of the stuff.
Hell they were doing drafts of it for $30 CAD, way less than what people would normally pay for the packs.

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>>54343258
I have sold Chinamen fakes as real
Does that count?

>>54341878
There are quite a few ways to win after reanimating griselbrand(Google the deck "grishoalbrand" for one) but what I meant is that generally, it's much easier to play a bunch of spells like faithless looting, cathartic reunion, and goryos vengance (or maybe gifts ungiven and unburial rights) in order to reanimate a good card like griselbrand or emrakul than to to mill in hopes of casting a creature that doesn't win on the spot. If you like putting a bunch of stuff in your graveyard and winning, I'd recommend looking at the deck living end.

>>54343306
Ethically I think that's disgusting and it's something I would never do.

That being said, I'm glad you're doing it Only fucking way it's going to fix anything.

>>54343331
Yeah, but ethically I'm in a board with a bunch of fags that still think (unironically) that pol shit is true. Also if someone is willing to pay 100$ for Cardboard, it does not really matter who painted qte grills on said cardboard

>>54343260
>>54343303
Huh, maybe the demand was just particularly high at mine then.

>>54343347
>Yeah, but ethically I'm in a board with a bunch of fags that still think (unironically) that pol shit is true

Never before have I been so confused by something so stupid

>>54343523
Ignore that baizuo

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is he right about tron?

>>54344239
yes

>>54324458
Is there a viablemodern deck that doesn't run black, white or colorless mana? Is storm literally it?

>>54339442
>Realistically though, what could wizards do to cheapen the game? More reprints?

Discontinue modern and make Frontier the new hotness

Do like they did with legacy and encourage card shops to drop modern tournaments.

By killing off modern faster for sanctioned tournaments, the majority of modern staples will be banned if people want to compete. So then with Frontier any staples people need can be reprinted in later sets without making collectors salty.

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>>54344332
>running bad colors
It's like you're not here to win.

>>54344341
Frontier is already dead dude.
Like, 100% dead.
Even the store that started it in Japan doesn't run events anymore.

Turns out, the cards that Wizards has been printing for the last two years have been some godawful trash.

>>54344332
Temur Delver
Blue Moon with Breach as a wincon
Mono Green Elves
Affinty
Titanshift
Skred
There is lots my dude

>>54344332
Merfolk, unless you count mutavault

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>>54342516
>>54342487

Daily reminder that if you don't run 1+ Ramunap Ruins in burn you are playing the wrong deck and that your valued opinion, while welcome, is utterly wrong.

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>>54344389
He said no colorless mana and you bring up Affinity

>>54344381
Oh well, my point still stands. A new modern like format that uses some of the later sets, maybe scars of mirrodin onward needs to emerge and kill the old modern.

>>54344464
Affinity is generic mana. Do you even play this game?

>>54344464
Affinity doesn't actually care about colourless mana though I'm also drunk and very sleepy

>>54344381
>Turns out, the cards that Wizards has been printing for the last two years have been some godawful trash.
What, are you saying that going to value-town with an ETB trigger with a creature is not the most fucking boring thing on the planet? Or getting a Green-level discount or bonus on mana-to-P/T ratio on every fucking color?

Who would've known.

It's like they pretended to learn their lesson from the Titans and realized that the best way to show they unfucked themselves was keep the absurd efficiency but drop the numbers; except that the result is still batshit insane creatures.

>>54344483
Enjoy the format being origins+ :^)

>>54344464

Affinity does not require colorless mana.

It, in fact, requires more than one color to function. Colorless mana sources aren't valuable to it.

>>54344525
If the goal is to attract new players and lower costs then yeah it has to be like that. The fact that the majority of modern staples are $10+ wards people off.

>>54344621
Why didn't it ward you off, poorerfag?

t. Wendy's Chef

>>54344634
I'm not a poorfag. Try again.

>>54344634

This post seems so sad.

>>54344650
Why are you complaining about $10 cards then?
>>54344669
Can't be sad when you're busy being autistic :^))))

>>54344674

I'm not being autistic. I'm pointing out how sad it is to make a callout like that.

I don't even think there's anything wrong with working at Wendy's. That post was so unironically naive I don't know what to say. Were you trying to be an example to him or something?

>>54344369

Yeah that's kind of the point . I'm trying to prove to a friend that RUG is shit.

>>54344669
It's because he seemed to miss the question in the reply chain and is trying to play it off like I'm complaining.

>>54344674
I'm not. But I'm not a retard who thinks that people want to get into a game where you have to buy cards worth $10 or more. I personally am willing to spend the money on this because I play competitively.

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Spicy tech Vs GBx and Eldrazi, mostly eldrazi though.
Free spells never felt so good.

>>54326116
Modern is, definitely.
Wizards needs to step up with reprinting the fetches and other staples like Thoughtseize.

Of course, I'm not advocating for reprinting those in Standard, but in other supplementary products.

>>54345244
Thoughtseize isn't even all that expensive my dude. We need Arcbound Ravager and Mox Opal reprints.

>>54345150
I can see this working against Reality Smasher, but it's too bad it doesn't work on thought knot as it exiles

>>54345150

What deck are you using this in?

>>54345273
Also extremely true, but those cards don't really see play outside of Affinity, so I don't consider them staples of the format.

>>54345337
Opal sees play in Eggs and Cherrios

If you wanted to talk about staples to reprint you should have said Goyf

>>54345363
Well, Goyf is also a given, I was just giving an example.

>>54345363
>>54345273

The real reprints we need are Chalice and Aether Vial.

>$100 rare
>$45 uncommon

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>>54345391
Both got Masterwork reprints.
>Vial saw an initial decline, but has since recovered
>Chalice saw price jumps some time after AER

>>5434551

>reprinting at what is essentially super - mythic rarity
Fuck you Maro.

>>54345542
Shhhh.

A reprint is a reprint. You should be thanking us for even bothering.

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>>54344389
Cranial plating my dude. There's also white in the sb. Affinity is every color but green.

>>54345566
pic related

>>54345616
>There's also white in the sb
no there isn't, Affinity's SB is red and Blue

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Does this work with the Vizier/Druid combo?

When you activate the ability aren't you technically still putting a counter onto the druid?

>>54345655
Nope. No counters are put on the Druid due to the Vizier's replacement effect.

>>54345676
Ah, I thought it might be like when you have Rest in Peace out and use Wasteland Strangler's ETB ability where it still works even though the processed card never hits the actual graveyard

>>54345655
No, but it works with the anafenza/finks/seer combo. IMO it's a better finisher than redcap, since you can hit it off CoCo. Also blocks lingering souls, inkmoth and goblin guide quite nicely. Worth testing.

>people playing Solemnity on Xmage
Can someone gas Saffron Olive? Seriously His memebrews are annoying as shit and genuinely bad in most cases.

>>54345794
Does metalic mimic do the finks/seer combo? Or does that not work?

>>54345322
I'd imagine burn. My problem with it is that unless that's the only thing they can discard they won't bother taking it and it's just an over glorified shock. Especially if they thought seize after shock fetch meaning that half of their health is already gone. There might be a great hand where you have all 4 and 3 lands but it just seems unlikely. Alternatively it's played in some combo maybe scapeshift as it increases the likelihood that they can only discard tactics. Idk seems like it's jank. Maybe against Lilly or kcommand where you can choose what to discard

>>54345825
He is an ok dude, but as always fanbases ruin everything

>>54345836
Yes .

>>54345825
To be fair, the memebrews are literally labeled as "against the odds", they're not intentionally good.

>>54345649
>What is dispatch?
>What is rest in peace?
>What is thoughtseize?
Also forgot about ancient grudge when I said affinity was greenless.
Those are just the most commonly played non UR spells in affinity's sb. It's almost like you don't know what you're talking about.

>>54346462
>>54346462
>>54346462
we dead new bread