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Space Marine Edition

>FAQ:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/02/warhammer-40000-faq-now-available-july2gw-homepage-post-1/

>FW FAQ
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/09/forge-world-faq-july9gw-homepage-post-4/

>Designer's Commentary (FAQ 0.1)
https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Warhammer_40000_Designers_Commentary-ENG.pdf

>Latest news :
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>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:

>Everything 8th edition in pdf(and epub), SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>other MEGAs
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>WIP Math-hammer doc (chart anon doing god's work)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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Primaris marines are cute.
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First for best legion
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>>54319088
Buddy, you've painted your Sky Sentinels all wrong.

They look like this.
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>>54319068
3rd for da Goffs
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please guys I would like some more input on Pic Related.What do you think ?
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>>54319088
>mfw GW give them [Imperium]
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>>54319086
Good luck mang, keep us posted on how it worked out.
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>>54319115
I always loved the THICC butt of the Praetor.
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>>54319115
It looks like it can seriously BTFO flyers. but its not astounding by any means.
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>>54319079
>talking about marine stuff
>interjects with gaurdshit
Also 200 hb shots is not more BRRRRRT.
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As SM/IG, how important are flamers in 8E? Are combi-flamers, flamers on razorbacks etc worth it? How many would you generally need?
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>>54319160
200 HB shit for only 800points, Gue'la.
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Forgot to ask, how are Vendettas in 8E?

>>54318678
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Everyone rides into the Valkyrie. Opponent automatically defeated by Broforce.

HQ
Inquisitor Coteaz [4 PL, 100pts]
Inquisitor Greyfax [5 PL, 85pts]
Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken [5 PL, 90pts]
Commissar Yarrick [7 PL, 130pts]
Lord Castellan Creed [4 PL, 70pts]
Uriah Jacobus [5 PL, 100pts]

Elites
Colour Sergeant Kell [3 PL, 50pts]
Nork Deddog [4 PL, 80pts]
Sergeant Harker [3 PL, 50pts]

Flyer
Valkyries [10 PL, 178pts]
2x Multiple Rocket Pods, Multi-laser, 2x Heavy Bolters
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>>54319161
Overpriced for what they do. Maybe if they were half points they could work.
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>>54319115

Its essentially two weak basilisks and a space marine hunter taped together.
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>>54319126
Praetor curves are the best
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Best way to transport infantry using magnets?

Thinking either magnets on the bases with a steel bottom container or washers on the bases with some kind of magnetic bottom container.

Not sure what I would use to get a magnetic container though...
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Alright, hows this look for 1000 of Dark Eldar?

Archon: Blaster, Agonizer, Phantasm Grenades
Sslyth x 2
Medusae x 2

Kabalite Warrior x 5 w/Blaster
Kabalite Warrior x 5 w/Blaster
Kabalite Warrior x 10 w/Blaster and Shredder Cannon

Raider with Dark Lance x 2

Venom with Splinter Cannon x 2

Scourge x 5 Shardcarbines

Reavers x 6 with Heat Lance x 2 and Grav-talon x 2 and Painbringer

Comes to an even 1000 points.

The idea is 10 warriors in one Raider, 5 warriors and the Archon and pals in the other, last 5 in the Venom. Scourges find a good spot to mow down infantry and the Reavers go around back to hunt tanks and characters.

I'm not sure of the best way to use the Reavers though, and wondering if maybe they're better as a screen; maybe switch out the Grav-talons for caltrops.

Also thinking of dropping some or all of the Reavers and/or Scourges to turn one of the 5 man warrior teams into Trueborn with 2 blasters and 2 splinter cannons and have them drive about in the Venom unleashing hell on likely targets.

Trying to not go too deep into Wych or Coven stuff for now, but I'll probably pick up some eventually, I'm aware I'm light on melee right now.
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>>54319261
>npc race
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>>54319261
>edge eldar
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>>54319244
Magnets on the bases. You can get 100 magnets on amazon for like 7 bucks

1mm steel sheets are also very cheap. I bought a few 6" by 18" sheets for less than four dollars each
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>>54319244
>go to a hardware store
>be a man
>buy a metal box
>be a man
>put magnets under the base
>be a man
>add some stones or something heavy
>be a man
>now you have a proper transport for your models
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>>54319076
Because fuckinng robobrains are smarter than the Emperor, herecy.
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>>54319286

What did you use to cut the steel to size, if you don't mind me asking? I don't think I can do the job as well as I'd like with an angle grinder.
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>>54319295
Comissioned by a literal Son of the Emperor you double heretic
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>>54319321
go to any furniture stire they have free things to cut steel, wood and whatever just outside the shop.
If you are french go to castorama
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>>54319261
Looks pretty fun mate! Let us know how it goes later.
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>>54319321
>What did you use to cut the steel to size
Differentanon here, I used tin snips to cut my sheet to size.
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>>54319206
I agree that I don't like them in general, the high chance of rolling minimum hits sucks really bad. It is pretty great when some poor fucker charges a unit with three flamers and gets roasted on overwatch though, but the range on flamers also makes them worthless against any of the units that deepstrike in outside of 9".

All in all, not great, imo.
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Do you think Black Templars would be cool with Primaris?

Coming at the argument from the idea that they're used to training new battle brothers on the field in mixed combat groups and then all of a sudden ...
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Soon
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>>54319375
Yes, every chapter gets primaris marines now, so go nuts.
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>>54319375

Yep, there's even official art of BT primaris marines now too.
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>>54319386
>>54319390
Right I know they DO get them, just from a lore perspective it seems a lot different than the way they've been training and building their chapter since it broke post HH.
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>>54319343
Thanks anon; it'll be a couple of weeks yet before I can put them into action, but I'll be putting them together soon and wanted to get a feel of how they might play out. Haven't played in a loooong time.
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>>54319375
>Every Initiate is ordered to take a Primaris Marine as a Neophyte in addition to their regular neophyte.
>Crusader Squads can add Primaris Neophytes in addition to classic scout neophyte.
>Crusader squads can now be 30 strong.
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>>54319375
Literally not a single chapter doesn't trust Guilliman and his Primaris Marines. If Lion or Russ came along and says GUYS I'VE MADE ALL THIS COOL SHIT there'd be a lot more misgivings than there were with Guilliman, and even those misgivings were quashed as soon as they met with Guilliman and his chadmarines in person.

Even the Dark Angels of all chapters accepted them quite happily.
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>>54319334
>States any of the sons of the emperor can be greater than him.
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>>54319416
It's been a century of crazy last-ditch effort fighting for all the chapters as they literally try to hold the galaxy together as chaos literally tries to tear it apart. The reinforcements in the form of primaris marines aren't coming along because every chapter wanted them, they are coming along because every chapter needed them to serve as a disposable bulwark against the encroaching darkness.
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>>54319421
Cool idea.
Wont happen.
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>>54319442
It's heresy to imply that the Emperor would not trust his own Son with the future of the Imperium. Do you not trust in the Emperor as he trusts in his own?
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After the grey knights, what is the cheapest army to get 1500 points?
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>>54319481
Deathwing
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>>54319481

Primaris, easily.
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>>54319424
Doesn't DI say that some chapters weren't accepting of the new marines? (but that this wasn't generally the case)
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>>54319068
Just saw the latest Arch vid. How fucked is the Inqusitor that put a hit out on the Celestial Lions now that they are restocked up with Marines 1.5?
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>>54319161
Combi-flamers are nice for getting to fire the flamer compinents, and at the saame time Rapid Fire the bolter component with only -1 to hit on the latter, vut overall flameers aren't great. From SM POV, only Vulkan makes em worthwhile, and you can only have so many squads within 6"
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>>54319503
None fucked because they have no proof about any Inquisitorial action.
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>>54319272
>>54319283
Could you at least be slightly more subtle with the samefagging? 2 memearrow shitposts within 65 seconds are a bit too on the nose, m8
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>>54319503
dunno, might be dead, a hundred years have passed minimum
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>>54319498

Yeah but apparently its none of the currently named ones.
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>>54319104
sorry senpai, I know you don't know this yet but most of your chapter are alpha legionnaires
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>>54319498
Not at first they weren't. And the AM were close to excommunicating Cawl but then Guilliman said "In my time we actually invented shit so Cawl is better than u" and he created accidentally new Chaos God called Blaw'nthe Fuhko'wt
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>>54319375
>Do you think Black Templars would be cool with Primaris?

Black templars are not cool with anything
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>>54319559
they're pretty fun guys
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>*Blacks your path*

What do?
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>>54319551
>Blaw'nthe Fuhko'wt
Kek
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>>54319574

Only ones that could win a rage contest with Angry marines or Zerkers
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>>54319579
*steals geneseed* ayo ayo we wuz salamanders nd shieettt
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>>54319592
Cool meme anon, have an upvote.
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>>54319592
Now I want to see art of a BT, a Death Company marine, an Angry Marine, and a Zerker chilling with some beers, playing poker
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>>54319579
Give him a hug and say sorry if he hates my xeno girlfriend.
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>>54319579
KRUMP 'EM WITH A WAAAGH! BLAST
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>>54319579
If he's pissed at me I fucking deserve it since he's such a swell dude.
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>>54319579
Wonder why the African-Nocturnian gentleman clobbered his mates to death.
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Perty best Primarch, Dorn a shit
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>>54319293
You forgot
>be swift like a coursing river
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>>54319621
he a good boy n shiet he dindu nuffin
neede moa money fo dem geneseeds n shiet
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>>54319261
>shardcarbine scourges
nice.
I've tried them and they perform well for their points.
Will say it can be better to wait a turn on them coming down if you think there will be a better placement, as they don't do enough damage that you'll miss the turn of shooting vs having them to grab an objective.

I mainly play CW so I can't tell you much about the rest.
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>>54319598
how are you finding the site so far, newfriend?
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What´s written on the card in his hand?
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>>54319519
Combi-flamer is as good as a non oc plasma gun, 2/.75 vs guard and meq compared to 1.11/.74 for plasma. Very good for Spacewolf/Deathwatch veterans.
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>>54319648
dis ere space fing is well big innit
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>>54319579
Hope he hits me with the hammer, but I know I'm getting 9 million power hugs.
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>>54319648
>I can't photoshop
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So is there any way to field these or are they legitimately one of the worst units in the game
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Autocannon Deredeo, Quad lascannon mortis contemptor or quad autocannon contemptor for buddy-cop to my autocannon+lascannons predator?
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>>54319638
Thanks anon, I'll keep that in mind for them
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so yesterday these two gay guys walked into gdubz and it legit grossed me out-- only because I'm starting to see a lot of gays in this hobby and im beginning to associate this hobby's player base with freaks and betas
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>>54319668

A large unit (5+) is RIDICOLOUSLY hard to kill

Their guns are reasonably painful, but their 24" range is a massive pain in the ass.

I want my 36" destroyer back T_T
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>>54319686
>autocannon+lascannons predator?
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>>54319711
Call in Mike Pence and watch them dissipate like steam in open air.
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>>54319418
So putting together scourges some advice.
Here are mine, the paint scheme is because they used to be swooping hawks.

Have the wings painted off the model, there is no way to do so even slightly well if they you assemble first.
You don't need to pin the wings to attach, they secure quite well with just glue.

I used base-wash-drybrush on a couple, and wash painting on the rest. If you're going for a simple theme, or darker colors on the wing drybrush works fine.

If you can, magnetize the armes, at least the weapon arm, as so you can swap in blasters later if you want.
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>>54319711
Wow anon you should legit tell people that you need a [TRIGGER WARNING] for gays! Such micro-aggressions should not stand!.
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>>54319720

Predator cannon is fucking phenomenal, it beats the double lascannon turret against anything that isn't >T8.
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>>54319711
You should quit the hobby, Anon. We're all of us nothing but degenerates, cucks, faggots and betas. Nothing for you here.
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>>54319711
Ever wondered if maybe you're the insecure bastard if you can't take it when people like the same hobby as you despite liking different genitals than you?
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>>54319648
>zog u
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>>54319750
no, hehe. i just dont want to be associated with freaks
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>>54319750
>Ever wondered if maybe you're the insecure bastard if you can't take it when people like the same hobby as you despite liking different age groups than you
>Ever wondered if maybe you're the insecure bastard if you can't take it when people like the same hobby as you despite liking different species than you
>Ever wondered if maybe you're the insecure bastard if you can't take it when people like the same hobby as you despite liking different states of life than you
This is what you sound like right now btw. I know he's baiting but this logic is retarded.
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>>54319713

>24 inch range is a massive pain in the ass
>On a jump unit no less

>I only play on 28 by 46 foot tables
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>>54319720
>What? Universal Split Fire? Never heard of that.
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>>54319720
Dude, that Autocannon is magnificent
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>>54319740
>predator average shots is 3, can get lower
>lascannon is much stronger, longer range and reliable at 2

Hmm.
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How do I use Nobz? What is their role on the battlefield? Should I just slap klaws and big choppas on them and try to slaughter as many enemies as possible? Is there a point of keeping units of 5 in small games like 1000 and 1500pts?
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>>54319772

36" allowed them to engage freely while staying out of range of most infantry, with 24" they are subject to retaliation fire.
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Warhammer Live is back up, Khorne vs Blue Bird Dude
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>>54319068
Truly, the Starforged Immortals are the greatest of the Emperors warriors in the struggle against Chaos in all its realms.
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neat
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>>54319760
Psht, anon, I've got something to tell you.
You already are one.
You hang around on the asshole of the internet discussing a hobby for betas. Please don't kid yourself. Just because you're a lighter shade of degenerate doesn't mean you're not a degenerate.
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>>54319795
Stick em on bikes, take klaws or big choppas, krump gits.
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>>54319798

And now they have multiple wounds.
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>>54319787
The average of 2d3 is 4, not 3, Anon.
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>>54319769
>different species
if someone teaches monkeys to actually play table top games that would be amazing.
>different states of life
If zombies are a thing I have many much bigger concerns than them liking my hobby.
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>>54319795

3x 5 nobz (power stabba, killsaw on boss nob, 1 runt) + banner nob + warboss in 'ard case battlewagon with rolla
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>>54319621
>>54319634
>>54319597
>>54319591

>be black nerd
>can't enjoy anything

A-are the guys at the FLGS just too autistic to say they don't want no niggers in their store, or we just /pol/ round here? In PA here. People are always fairly nice to me.
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>>54319825
>2d3 is 4, not 3

????

3/2= 1.5

1.5x2=3.
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There's some good stuff in the codex previews that I think we've been overlooking

>Q: If I have a Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Space Wolves army, will I need to buy Codex: Space Marines to use my army?
>A: You don’t have to. Other Space Marines factions not covered in the new codex will continue to use all the datasheets, rules and points values in the index until their own codex is released. Rules for new models not covered in the index (like the upcoming Redemptor Dreadnought) will be available in the box with the model and matched play points for these units will be made available online.
This confirms that BA, DA and SW will not be featured in Codex Space Marines. Which essentially also confirms that the big four Chaos armies won't be in the CSM codex either.

>Q: How long do I have to wait? I want them now!
>A: Not long! Codex: Space Marines lands in July, and then before Christmas, we’re aiming to have around 10 codexes available for you to choose from.
This is 10 codices over 5 months, meaning that we'll probably see one even two weeks or so after Space Marines comes out
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>>54319827
>if someone teaches monkeys to actually play table top games that would be amazing.
Aren't there a few stock photos of some niggers playing 40k anyways? Someone post the BLACKED one.
>If zombies are a thing I have many much bigger concerns than them liking my hobby.
You have to worry about the people intent on fucking them, unfortunately.
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>>54319455
Makes sense, I'm good with your pov
>>54319599
I'll get on it

Tho I've never seen BT as being crazy fanatics flailing around the battlefield. They come down from Sig who was an honourable master swordsman and I feel like they're quiet and noble in a fight, talented and methodical. The frenzy and fire is inside and fuels their lust for battle but it's never wild or unhinged.
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>>54319838
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>>54319836
Mate, most people here are autists.

Take solace in being insulted by gnats.
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>>54319836
Those are jokes, anon. If you are taking them seriously, you are just as retarded, autistic and gay as the people who would take being called retarded, autistic and gay seriously.
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>>54319769
And shockingly, I stand by that. If someone takes the hobby just as seriously as you, what the fuck does it matter what else they like? Does it matter if the guy on the other side of the table is gay if he plays the game just fine and doesn't undress you with his eyes? Does it matter if he likes cougars? Does it matter if your opponent fucks goats? So long as he doesn't do it inside the store it's a) irrelevant and b) none of your damn business.

And frankly, the above-mentioned gay tabletop gamer won't be interested in you because gay guys have standards.
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>>54319821
3, at T5, while being insanely overcosted
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>>54319836
A V E R A G E I Q O F 8 5
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>>54319838
A d3 call roll a 1, a 2 or a 3. (1+2+3)/3= 2.

The average of a d2 is 1.5
The average of a d6 is 3.5

The average of a d3 is 2.
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>>54319838
that's not how you calculate averages of an even distribution.
it's Min+max/2
so d6 is 1+6/2=3.5
d3 is 1+3/2=2.
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Just finished reading the master of mankind and HOLY SHIT FUCK CHAOS.

Mankind had so much potential and was so close to doing something truly great. They were this close to unlocking the ability to travel without the warp. From there it was only a few steps to separating mankind and the warp forever. Fuck man. They were almost free from chaos. Think about that. No other species had ever done that and they were so close.

feelsbadman
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>>54319334
The Burning of Prospero was commissioned by Horus when the Emperor just wanted Magnus arrested.

Checkmate, heretic.
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>>54319842
>This confirms that BA, DA and SW will not be featured in Codex Space Marines. Which essentially also confirms that the big four Chaos armies won't be in the CSM codex either.
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>>54319860
I'd be pretty fucking worried if there was a guy into children or corpses running around much less being financially stable enough to play 40k.
>because gay guys have standards.
Must be why the average fag has between 20 to 106 partners a year.
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>>54319860
> gay guys have standards.

#notallgayguys. Trust me on this.
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>>54319720
The predator autocannon is the best one in the game, it make me destroy my magnetized Exterminator gun of my Russ
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>>54319847
>You have to worry about the people intent on fucking them, unfortunately
I know you're trolling, but your trolling is going weird places.
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>>54319836
maybe they dont want their models stolen

give them back tyrone
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>>54319880
Pic related will be though.
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>>54319836
We're just too /pol/ around here. It also doesn't help that very, VERY few non-whites play 40k.
In actual gaming stores you're unlikely to have any problems with it
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>>54319900
>necrophilia isn't a thing
Oh my sweet summer child, you have much to learn.
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>>54319877
The Eldar would have.
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>>54319668
They suck, you're paying 63 points for a grav-gun.
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>>54319877
Fuck off ABD noone likes your shitty book.
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>>54319261
I have played about 16 or so games of dark eldar in 8th edition, they are a blast.

I like the look of your list, should be fun to mess around with. That being said a unit of trueborn all with blasters in a venom are quite scary.
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>>54319836
>2017
>not being able to handle the bants
Everybody gives everybody shti m8, just learn to deal with it.
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Question, how many commissars are typically assigned to a regiment? I am hearing a lot of regiments do not have one in the fluff, or they have only one.
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>>54319068
When did you realize /40kg/ knows fuck all about 40k?
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>>54319605
A E S T HE T I C S
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>>54319877
Fuck off ADB, MoM was shit.
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>>54319940
>forgot to remove name
>kill me
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>Play against a Space Wolves player regularly
>Every time I lose she claims that she has the right to transform me into her own servitor now
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>>54319972
What army do you play?
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>>54319088
I like to imagine this is how an Alpha Legion recruitment goes down
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>>54319972
Isn't that an Ad Mech thing?

Tell her she's fucking WAACfag scum.
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>>54319972
>furry player is a creepy fetishfag
This was such an unexpected turn of events. Wow.
on a side note most of the SW players I've played against have been jewish. why are kikes attracted to viking furries?
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>>54319811
But I want to keep them on foot desu
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>>54319884
>a guy into children or corpses
But how would you know? Child molesters and necrophiliacs don't wear signs saying what they're into.
Sure I would be worried if my opponent starts drooling whenever he looks over at the 40kids, but so long as that doesn't happen you wouldn't be able to tell and therefore during the game it would be irrelevant. Also I find the jump from "opponent is gay" to "opponent fucks corpses" pretty jarring.

>Must be why the average fag has between 20 to 106 partners a year.
Do please show me the statistic you pulled that number out of.
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>>54319950
yeah I know, but there's also some /pol/ to it
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>>54319972
>she
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Is the eisenhorn/ravenor books any good?
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>>54319858
nice edge kiddo
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>>54319997
Fuck off marxist numale trash
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>>54319994

You got some kinda foot fetish anon?
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>>54319951
Depends on the regiment but around 20 seems like a good number, they are not there to lead but to oversee.
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>>54319068
So, every so often I get an itch to re-play the old Duke's Chapter Master game. I'm not sure why, it was working fine last evening, and isn't now. I want to do a re-install, but I can't seem to find version 0.6555 (the last one before the whole boondoggle with GW's lawyers and making it "intersteller army simulator" and mods), only the latest, 0.7 version. Does anyone know where or even if you can find a 0.6555 download?
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>>54319912
>non whites and females take an interest in Warhammer etc
>hobby is fucking destroyed and ruined by the pc train to cater to the new audience.
yeah "good"
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>>54319880
Hello, retard wojackpostyer
>I just bought Index: Imperium 1 – what should I do with it? You’ll want to keep hold of your index. Codex: Space Marines doesn’t include rules for playing with Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Deathwatch or Grey Knights armies
>Codex: Space Marines doesn’t include rules for playing with Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Deathwatch or Grey Knights armies
>doesn’t include rules for playing with Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Deathwatch or Grey Knights armies
>rules for playing with Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Deathwatch or Grey Knights armies
>Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Deathwatch or Grey Knights armies
>Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves
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>>54320027
whatever, it's not my fault if a company ruins its product to "cater to me"
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>>54319997
>But how would you know? Child molesters and necrophiliacs don't wear signs saying what they're into.
If you can tell that someone's gay you can probably tell that they're a pedo or a necro.
>Also I find the jump from "opponent is gay" to "opponent fucks corpses" pretty jarring.
It's almost like what I'm referring to is the frequently cited "slippery slope" of sexual degeneracy.
>Do please show me the statistic you pulled that number out of.
Corey L. and Holmes K., "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men." New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.
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>>54319887
Hush, I'm making a point about delusional neckbeards thinking all gay guys want to fuck them. It's just as dumb as thinking every straight woman wants to fuck you, and with the possible exception of Georg Clooney no man can say that with confidence.
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Is the baal predator any good or should i get a normal predator?
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>>54319795
Big Choppas for all. And either a Naught or Battlewagon, heck even a Trukk with 5×2 Big Choppa Nobz would be good (in low pt games)
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>>54320041
>Hush, I'm making a point about delusional neckbeards thinking all gay guys want to fuck them
Projecting a bit too hard buddy. But it's ok, I'm more on the side of not wanting to be 17 times more likely to develop anal cancer or add to the current 63% of syphilis cases that gay men make up.
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>>54320027
>More women start playing
>GW actually gets off their asses and makes some more Sisters of Battle figs
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>>54319983
Some vanilla orks slapped together. When 8th edition killed 7e we bought start collecting boxes and 2-3 other kits and run small games with other players
>>54319988
I think it's a reference to this SW traditional selection. If you fail a trial then iron priests can transform you into servitor iirc
>>54319999
She was born with a vagina and no penis and she claims she is a female - I think it makes her a girl in our crazy times
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>>54320010
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

>>54320040
>Corey L. and Holmes K., "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men." New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>54320084
Fuck off marxist numale trash
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>>54320040
>1980
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>>54320065
gay men fuck more because they're both men, not because they're more degenerate than straights

man+man = most sex
man+woman = some sex
woman+woman = least sex

but keep being a biblefag or whatever
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@54320084
Would you like a (You) with that sir?
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>>54320072
>She was born with a vagina and no penis
How do you know
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>>54319836
>In PA here.
Me too. How's the gaming in your area?
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>>54320090
I don't think you know what Marxism is.
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>>54319998
There's /pol/ in everything, doesn't mean it matters. Nobody here knows you're black unless you tell them, and at that point you're just asking for trouble, the vast majority of the time mentioning you race is just as irrelevant as mentioning you're gender, if you do it you should expect to here Tits or gtfo/nigger. And if nobody knows you're black, then no actual intent is meant by the word, it's just common dialect, like faggot ir retard.
And only a complete and utter autist would ever be dumb enough to call you that in a FLGS, and that's garunteed to get you kicked out.
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>>54320042
Get a normal one.
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>>54320102
Marxism: A process of social indoctrination in the guise of economic philosophy of which you are clearly a victim.
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>>54320091
And you think fags have started fucking less men since then? Or more?
>>54320093
>gay men fuck more because they're both men
This totally makes it completely reasonable and sound. Wow wtf I love fags now.
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>>54320072
>Some vanilla orks slapped together
What's your list? You should easily be able to krump those furry gitz.
>She was born with a vagina and no penis
You know this how?
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>>54319088
I haven't bought any of the primaris marines yet, would these upgrade kits be compatible? Shit would look mad nice.
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>>54320072
>She was born with a vagina and no penis and she claims she is a female - I think it makes her a girl in our crazy times

Who can say these days, what with the internet and all?
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>>54320110
No I'm massively anti-Marxist. Not spazzing out when you find out someone is gay doesn't make you a Marxist.
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>>54320132
yes its compatible. everything except ravenguard
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>>54320137
Not him but he's referring to Frankfurt School Cultural Marxism. Either way that's the Shitsters of Basshole poster you're talking to.
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>>54320132
Heads and shoulder pads work just fine.
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Whats going on preorder today? I-Is it the codex?!
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>>54320160
Seems wise, it's the 14th today (roughly half way through the month) and they say it'll be out by the end of the month
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>>54320098
>>54320124
>>54320133
I just know her since childhood - we were playing around and splashing together in these inflatable pools or how the fack it is called in english
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>>54320117
My cousin is a gay celebrity, makes very expensive homoerotic art and he said he and his local gay community (and many faggots in general) largely think it sucks that homosex is "fashionable" these days since it means what they're doing isn't as taboo. He believes gay pride is just another way to break up the gay community because there'll be normalfag gays thinking they "belong" when they come out. It's happening already — a recently-outed homo will go to a guy nightclub and be horrified at the debauchery and demand that the homos there tone it down because it's "depraved".

Shit is fucking weird yet hilarious. Even faggots hate normalfags.
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>>54320160
Who is this semen demon?
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>>54319668
What the fuck are people even running then? Cron Air is bad, D-cults are not great (wich is fine because I don't have to buy any). Are our options really just warrior spam?
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>>54320172
fuck*
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>>54320175
Or conversely, even gay men hate faggots
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Are there rules for Galatus dreads yet?
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>>54320184
Wraiths with transdimensional beamers are amazing.
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>>54320172
So you showed yours and she showed hers? Cute.

Why haven't you yet fucked each other? Her turning you into a servitor is an obvious hint that she is wanting to marry you, or at least dom you into delirious slaaneshi ecstacy in bed, you big dummy.
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>>54320172
And that means you know she has a vagina how?
Also, did you two get into 40k together? And if so, who's idea was it?
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>>54320175
>what they're doing isn't as taboo
Oh wow I'm not edgy anymore mommy, I'll move onto fucking horses and children instead.
>He believes gay pride is just another way to break up the gay community because there'll be normalfag gays thinking they "belong" when they come out.
Do you honestly think I care? Tell me why I shouldn't dump all of them in the gas chamber. They create 30% of pedophilia victims and are obsessed with narcotics abuse. Fuck them all.
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>>54320117
No, but nowadays fags like to settle more and "try" to act like adults instead party normies in their 20s since they aren't a overly sexualized "under" trend like in the 80s anymore.
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>>54320184
literally just destroyer lords w/scythe, scarab swarms, wraiths and ctan
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Has anyone followed the stream today? Can someone confirm that Ultramarines get their own detachment? Are formations back?
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>>54320209
Probably because if she plays Yiffs, he' scared she would want to wear a fursuit for it
Or she just has a foxtail buttplug lying around and is waiting for an excuse to use it. You never know...
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>>54320172
>Childhood friend
Why aren't you fucking her right now?
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>>54320215
>Do you honestly think I care?
I don't care if you care.
Tell me why I shouldn't dump all of them in the gas chamber
I'm not going to since I don't have a reason.
>>54320226
Maybe she's just an basic anime furfag who wants to shout WAN WAN when she's being railed doggy-style.

Besides, if he's known her since she was a kid and he's seen her naughty place and she's seen his peepee, I'm sure he would know if she's a closet furfag. She fucking plays 40k with him in their LGS; I think she's quite comfortable around him.
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>>54319838
If you roll a d6 average is 3
average of d3 is 2
two averages of d3 are 4
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>>54320226
Nah, I'm betting anon's just and autist who can't recognize the signs.
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>>54320243
>whatisfriendzone.gif
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>>54320209
>Why haven't you yet fucked each other
Because cheating on my gf is not my thing
>>54320210
>did you two get into 40k together? And if so, who's idea was it?
Yeah and it was actually shared idea I think. I wanted to try the game and she likes to paint the stuff so we found what we like in same hobby
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>>54320255
d6 is 3.5
min+max/2.
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>>54320261
An excuse for betas who can't into charisma and/or /fit/ as to why they haven't got with the women they want?
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>>54320250
The point is that whether or not they think they're normalfags or fucking speshul snowflakes is fucking irrelevant. They account for excessive numbers in depraved shit like pedophilia and drug abuse. They are obsessed with transmitting HIV and also transfer other STDs. They are the definition of the word depraved and should be wiped out of existence.
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>>54320261
rape her, say it was an accident
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>>54320255
Average is 4 because you have to round up.
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>>54320274
See >>54320269
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>>54320269
Tell me anon, has she said any other odd things to you besides the servitor thing? Anything at all, not just stuff said during 40k?
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>>54319711

Ooh, freaks in the gaming world. I never would have guessed this was the case.
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>>54319836
its almost like the majority of people arent racist, huh?

the funniest part is that even if you met some hardcore racist dude in your lgs, based on the type of autismos this hobby attract he probably wouldnt tell you a thing because of his social anxiety or some shit
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>>54319836
If you don't act like a nigger, people tend to not treat you as one
I say nigger and shit all the fucking time here, but not at my FLGS
I taught an actually autistic black kid to play 40k and we have at least one other black guy who plays 40k.
We did have this other guy who looked normal but was actually a nigger. Stole and cheated, tried to sell his stuff for far to high and only purchased stuff far too low
Though he's got nothing on the 4 you-ghi-oh players we have. 3 are awful niggers. Leave trash everywhere, always trying to get free stuff, loud as fuck, always trying to steal shit

Bottom line is if you are black and don't act like a nigger, then you will not be treated like one.
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>>54320279
>They account for excessive numbers in depraved shit like pedophilia and drug abuse
I know and I never claimed otherwise. Relax those knees, faggot. I merely thought it was interesting and amusing that they hate normalfags in their own communities.
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>>54320288
That changes nothing, that's still what the """"""""""friendzone"""""""""" is
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>>54319769
>Slippery slope argument
That's a logical fallacy, son. Loving another consenting adult in a relationship where no one is being hurt is not the same as loving an animal or child. It's the consenting adult part that makes it okay
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>>54320222
And do what with their lives? Get married and adopt kids? That's nice of them to psychologically fuck up the next generation. Really, I wouldn't have a problem with fags if they stopped partaking in fag behavior. If they either remained celibate or decided to go and LARP as a normal person then it'd be fine by me. Problem is, they fucking don't, and they bring their mental illness around town and fuck everyone else up too.
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>>54320269
>Because cheating on my gf is not my thing
Your gf is not real and neither is your story.
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>>54320269
>cheating on my gf
>lying on the internet
No shame in admiting you haven't picked up what your friend has been meaning, no reason to lie to us
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>>54320339
Look mate, just cause you're retarded doesn't mean the big bad faggot made you that way
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>>54320342
>projecting this hard
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>>54319795
Kombi-skorchas in trukks for flaying crowds and meqs, klaws and big choppas for MCs and vehicles.
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>>54320284
>because you have to round up
No you don't, anon.

2D3 have 9 possible results:
2
3
3
4
4
4
5
5
6
Which total 36/9 = average of 4. 33.33% of the time you will roll a 4, with 77.78% of the time you will roll 3~5.
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>>54320375
>when the shitposter thinks he has an argument but he doesn't
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Is it a bad idea to run Ork Boyz with:
>26 shootas
>3 big shootas
>kustom shoota
I know Boyz want to get into melee but that much dakka is tempting.
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>>54320293
Mate, we are messing around together often but we both know how it's going. If she would like to fug me she will just tell - you know this kind of women.
If you know someone since your birthday you are looking at this person in a different way. It would be like incest - it looks good in porn but I have no need to trade it for my gcurrent relationship
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>>54320393
Cool m9. show me a study that has conclusivve proof that adoptive children of a gay couple are more likely to develop psychological problems then I'll believe you

and no, the kid being gay doesn't count :^)
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>>54320389
I think he was talking about the d6

Average of a d6 = (1+6)÷2 which is 3.5 or 4 rounding up
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>>54320019
Thats a lot more than I thought there would be, most black library stuff only has like 1-4 in a regiment. Neat though thank you
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>>54319126
...Who dis
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>>54320426
Have fun! I also have a specific one for lesbians too.
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>>54320413
don't try.
These people have no concept of women as human beings, they're just opportunities to fuck that they will either win or lose. With sometimes an exception for genetic family, who must be protected from all other men because they will also be viewing them as opportunities to fuck.
The concept that you might be friends with someone and enjoy having a friendship just does not compute for them.
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>>54320441
Well yes, but thats fairly dishonest when dealing with such small numbers.
If you were rounding 19.5 to 20? Sure. But going from 3.5 to 4 is rounding a ~14% improvement.

Nevertheless, a 2D3 is always superior to D6.
>>
Can you people please fuck off to /soc/ or something?
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>>54319972
That's cute and hot.

I regularly play a trans girl who makes lewd and silly comments to me when we play. I figured she was just doing it to everyone to be silly, but I asked around and she only does it to me. I think she has a crush on me.

>Shoot Vindicator at her tank that's facing away
>blow it up
"Oh God you demolished the booty without my consent...just the way I like it."
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>>54320459
I'm not arguing against that, I'm just stating what i think he meant, and yes, in a 2dx vs dx the 2dx will always average out to be higher because you are guaranteeing a roll of >1
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>>54320468
>trans girl
Oh Lord, here we go.
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@54320468
It's almost like you wanted a (You) with that post.
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>>54320457
Thanks Anon, but I have no problem with female-male relations or intimate relations at all. I just wanted to share a funny (at least I thought it was funny) anecdote
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>>54319481
The Primaris from the Dark Imperium set are already valued at ~960. That's without vehicles. So them.
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>>54320459
not exactly, I mean, it' is in the vast majority of cases and in terms of evaluating you should assume that it's better.
But not always. You're more likely to roll 6 on a d6 than on 2d3.
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>>54320394
>was planning on doing this as well but my old Shoota Mob was just 12 shootas, a kustom shoota and 3 big shootas
>none of my mobs actually maxed out at 30 boyz
>probably will have to cannibalize one of my choppa mobz in order to get the shoota mob (and at least one other choppa mob) at max capacity
>thank Gork n' Mork da boyz just count as one big unit now.
Seriously though, It's always a good idea to have a little dakka to draw the attention away from da choppy gitz imo.
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>>54320489
is it a hot tranny at least?
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>>54320468
>trans
dont
anon, no.
Do i have to get the article on dilation? i'll do it
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>>54320506
Well yes, a D6 has higher lows and higher highs.

But it's average is still lower. Consistency at the cost of luck is fine by me.
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>>54320520
If only I could post webms on /tg/. Oh boy, the wonders of SRS.
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>>54320394
>Orks are a shooty race
>5+ BS
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>>54320449
They aren't going to reply to you because they are too busy shutting out the info that disturbed them, mentally.
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>>54320506
It's a game of consistency vs. possible power
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>Mfw reporting all this pro/against-gay shitposting
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>>54319972
So....tap dat?
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>>54320539
looks cool
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Why would I EVER want a Power Maul over an Axe or Sword.
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>>54320199
Really?

>>54320224
Vanilla c'tan or the character ones? Are scarabs just screens?
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>>54320539
Its decent on S3 guys.
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>>54320542
>MFW reporting you reporting the pro/against-gay shitposting
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>>54320548
Cheaper than axe.

Stronger than sword.

Good for weak dudes dealing with hordes of cultists, poxwalkers, etc.
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>>54320536
The accuracy might be shit, but holy fuck do they throw a lot of dice during the shooting phase.
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>>54320449
This study is famous for taking a normal family whose dad goes out fucking other men as a "gay male family". Nothing to do with a pair of married gays adopting a child. I don't lean either way on this but you're a vitriolic moron.
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>>54320548
being str 3/ vs T 3
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>>54320560
>MFW reporting you reporting me reporting the pro/against-gay shitposting
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>>54320449
>find actual study
>data is not the same as presented
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Question about Battle-Forged Detachments.

This means that if a Space Marine Captain was part of a Detachment with the restriction that all units must be from
the same Faction, all other units in that Detachment
must either be from the Imperium Faction, or they must all be from the Adeptus
Astartes Faction.

Does this mean that I can have a primarily space-marine detachment with a unit of ratlings since they share the Imperium faction? Or to all keywords need to match up, so Imperium + Adeptus Astarted.
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>>54320586
Go away, Aaron.
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>>54320449
>correlation/ causation
plz go and stay go
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>>54320572
>This study is famous for taking a normal family whose dad goes out fucking other men as a "gay male family"
It says there "gay father", not gay male family. It is still correct and therefore still shows the effects of homosexuals on children.
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>>54320537
I'm actually reading the full study, studying into its background, finding stuff like >>54320572 and determining my own conclusions. Not just skim reading!
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>>54319579
Flee while shooting backwards on my jetbike. He'll die eventually.
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>>54320583
>>54320560
>>54320542
>mfw I see two idiots posting that they're reporting shitposting instead of just reporting it and moving on or ignoring it.
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>>54320548
if facing higher toughness and lower armor.
S3 model vs T4-5 and up to Sv+4 favors the iirc my math correctly.

The actual math for which is best fluxes a lot across toughness and save of targets.
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>>54320583
>MFW i want to continue the reporting shiotpost, but i have to go out
:(
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>>54320585
Show where, lil slugger.
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>>54320593
>not an argument/not an argument
Come back when you have an argument, kiddo :^)
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>>54320468
thats some wicked sense of humour

you have my permission to court her
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>>54320594
Okay but that makes it irrelevant to the context of the discussion. And no it doesn't necessarily, if that dad was going out and fucking other women it would likely fuck the kid up too.
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>>54320593
This is not a suitable argument.
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What the fuck are you people doing arguing about gays in an AoS thread? Go to hell, this is /tg/.
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>>54320394
It can work, especially when you use Da Jump and throw all them shoota boys down the field and get a great volley off. Even if they are shoota boys they should be charging other shooty units when they can.
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>>54320608
Yeah, so basically never for me with my Deathwatch mans.
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>>54320630
>>54320613
>not an argument
'tis
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Hey teegee I work at a game shop and with 8th we've had an increase in people wanting to play 40k but I'm personally at a bit of an impasse. To the people who want to start marines should i tell them to just ditch regular ones and wait for the chads to come? I know no one knows for sure if they'll drop manlets entirely but I'd hate to have people start with armies that will be just a worse alternative to the new thing in a few years
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>>54320645
Your job is to shill.
This is a question for your boss.
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>>54320627
>if that dad was going out and fucking other women it would likely fuck the kid up too.
I wonder if that group is represented by a certain "single parents" column too. Really makes me think.
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>>54320586
They only need to share one Faction keyword. So you can run an 'Imperium' Detachment that mixes anything with that keyword, yes.
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>>54320572
>dad fucks other men
>normal family
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>>54320644
>'tis

'tisn't
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>>54320645
Let them get marinelets. Primaris are rarely better rules wise.
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>>54320633
sure, but that's a much smaller statement than you made before.
Though, if you face a lot of nids the maul is better at clearing through gaunts and stealers.
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>>54320659
uh huh
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>>54320631
>AoS thread
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>>54320459
There's a reason marines have BS3+ and Guard have BS4+, faggot.
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>>54320653
Awesome, thanks for the quick and informative response.
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So surprise, surprise.
Codices contain straight buffs, haven't even seen strategems, relics, and the other stuff yet.

Better hope you aren't on the tail end of the codices release. So everyone but marines.
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>>54320664
It's not any better at clearing through stealers than the axe, and the axe is better against MCs
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>>54320684
I feel your reply is out of place with my comment.
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>>54320668
They are corrolated but can you easily come up for an alternate explanation for the cause? Would love to hear your thoughts, can do without the memes.
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>>54320687
P S Y B O L T S
S
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>>54320652
Why would it be? What I described isn't single parenthood.
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>>54320394
shooting is something you do on your way to get stuck in

the only exception are gits like lootas who have heavy weapons with a ZOGGIN HUGE range
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>>54320700
It's certainly a feature of single parenthood. Furthermore even if we were to assume an unfaithful straight father were to go under the biological column line, if it had a significant effect on the statistics then it certainly would show up and affect the overall results of that specific column. So kind of a redundant argument.
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>>54320645
Either
A/ Shill what makes your store the most money
or
B/ be honest with what you know

Since you DONT know what Chads will be like in the future, you cannot say that they will replace marines entirely.
To be honest, I expect Chads to die out before normie marines do. They'll get Grimgor'd on the back on the head and end of the storm of chad.
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>>54320468
Super skinny "girl" in Toronto by chance?

Worth it, if so, I know who
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>>54320688
forgot stealers were T4, it's been a long time since I fought them.
So for marines don't have much reason for using power mauls, but s3 models it really differs depending on what you think you'll be facing.
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>>54320514
That elf has some good Dakka.
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>>54320594
Well, you know, except other evidence that says the contrary
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23017845
Is a compilation study of other studies that concluded:
"The present review did not reveal evidence that children of lesbian mothers differed from other children on emotional adjustment, sexual preference, stigmatization, gender role behavior, behavioral adjustment, gender identity, or cognitive functioning."
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>>54320699

Grey Knights special tactics
+1 to wound and to hit versus <DAEMON>
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>>54320700
>>54320722
Also on that topic of the gay guy going out and fucking other men, note that the gay father column specifically specifies that only 12% of the sample was in a samesex relatinoship. So the other 88% were no different from that guy.
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>>54320754
You just reposted the exact same study that I posted. And that line appears nowhere in it.
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>>54320653
>>54320586

Battle forged list
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>>54320757
Honestly, I can dig this.

But I want PSYBOLTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>54320757
Thought their stabby weapons just do d6 damage and not d3
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>>54320780
oops. had two ncbi tabs and ctrlv'd the wrong one.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12361102
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>>54320822
>1978 to 2000
>my study was done in 2012
Oops.
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>>54320788
Their Smite gets upped from Damage 1 to straight Damage 3 vs. Daemons
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>>54320837
>from your own image
"the raw data presented here is not old enough though old doesn't mean invalid."

b-b-b-but it doesn't apply to things I disagree with.
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Stat the LAW
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>>54320822
>>54320837
Also note that your study surveys the effects on the children themselves. Mine surveys what the children who grew up in said families say as adults. So that has been soundly debunked as well.
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>>54320855
>not old enough
Uh oh. Might wanna reconsider that 40 year old study there buddy.
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>>54320858
S3T3 WS3+ BS4+, SV4+.
Shotgun and shockmaul.
Option for pistols and shield.
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>>54320880
>40 year old study
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>>54320900
>1978
>not 40 years old
I don't think you're trying hard enough. Put in more effort into the next post you make and try again.
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>>54320632
Writing a first time Ork list to see if being green is right for me. Fluffwise I love their humor, Deathskulls being my favorite.
>>54320567
Was test rolling a Shokk Attack Gun, and was actually enjoying BS5+, because 2 times of the 5 rolls I did the Big Mek hit 5 times harder than Nightspear (my cousin's current HQ).
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>>54320914
Of the studies inside that study, only one is from the 70s. With a majority being from the nineties. But, again, I'll use your own words:

>enough though old doesn't mean invalid.
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>>54320928
That's cool. Now answer >>54320863 or we can safely consider this conversation finished.
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>>54320858
WS 3+ BS 3+ S3 T4 W3 A3 LD8 Sv 4+

Reroll 1s against HERETICS in 6"
Friendlies with a lower Ld take a -1 penalty to Ld; all enemies take -1 no matter what.
Judge, Jury, and Executioner. When reducing an enemy CHARACTER to 0 wounds, roll a D6. On a roll of 1, the model is removed from play normally. on 2-4, the model takes either a full shooting or melee against any of its allies within 12", on 5-6 the enemy player lose d3 Command Points.
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How many pox walkers is enough poxwalkers?
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>>54320645
From a business perspective?
No. You should totally tell them to buy manlets now, and then happily sell them chadmarines when they start using those.
Ork players don't have to worry about this since they can mix and match their 2e and 5e models and no one really cares, because Orks.
At the end of the day, your job is to make sales, regardless of it being sales ASAP. Doesn't matter if it's Astartes, Chaos, Orks, Aeldari, T'au, Tyranids, etc. All that matters is whether the store's in the red at the end of the financial quarter.

On the other hand, if you want to create loyal customers who are likely to keep coming back, being honest with what you currently know, and try to help the new customer figure out what army suits them.
>Do they like close-combat? Suggest Orks, Tyranids or Khornate-affiliated factions
>Do they like long-range? Suggest Tau or 'crons
>Do they enjoy a mix of both? Offer up Space Marines (and be sure to point out there's a lot more flavors of Marines than just 'Ultramarines', because Gork knows we don't need more of them running around)
>Do they enjoy painting/customizing their models/are overly-creative? Point them toward Orks and mention that any other army's vehicle can be converted into an Ork Battlewagon.
>If they really enjoy the lore of a certain army already, then you don't need to help them pick an army so much as provide helpful tips on which sets to buy first before they get too invested in the hobby

Of course, the 'helping them choose a new army' angle really depends on the size of the store and frequency of new customers showing up.

Your friendly Orky economist,
-Orkan Greenspan
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>>54320704
Yeah sounds better to due sluggas, but 56 shots at 18" got me grinning like an idiot. Are Lootas in your opinion better than Flash Gitz? Or do they both serve a niche? Looking into an Ork army for 8th Edition.
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>>54320951
Is every square inch covered in nothing but poxwalkers?
If it is, still not enough!
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>>54319068
So I noticed that the Redemptor is supposed to be the bee's knees. Yet it's stat line is barely better than a Contemptor. I'd put my money on a Venerable Contemptor taking it out in a fist fight.
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>>54320735
Nah, US. She's a little chubby, but a cute face.
>>54320619
Thank you. I will let her know an anon approves.
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>>54320858 #
M6, WS 4+, BS 4+, S3, T3, 1W, 1A, Ld6, 4+
Shock Mauls, S+2 AP-1 D1 Shock
Shock
>Units hit by one or more weapons with Shock suffer -1 To Hit until the start of the next battle round.

Combat Shield, grants 5++

>May replace Shock Mauls with Shotguns
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>>54320991
The thing is covered in Dakka though. It seems to be a shooting platform.
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>>54320898

Enforcers: M:6" Ws:4+ Bs:4+ S:3 T:3 W:1 A:2 Ld:8 Sv:4+
Regulator M:6" Ws:3+ Bs:3+ S:3 T:3 W:1 A:2 Ld:8 Sv:4+

Unit is 1 Regulator and 4 Enforcers, optional up to 10 more Enforcers

Cost is 8 pt a model, with free autopistol, shock maul costing 1pt, power maul 4pt, bolt pistol 1pt, riot shield 2pt

Standard load-out: Auto-pistol and Shock maul (S:U AP:-1)
Can upgrade to Power and/or Bolt pistol
Can trade either weapon for a riot shield giving him a 3+ save and 6+ invulnerable
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Did anyone ever finish translating the runes on the 8th ed cover bolter?

I was initially excited to see a few actual words, but it seems most of the runes are just filler, rotated repeats with no meaning.
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>>54321040
>Can upgrade to Power
*Power maul
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>>54321017
I'd think they have melee experience in dealing with riots, fugitives etc. I'd think they have WS 3+ OR 2A.
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>>54320991
That's because the Redemptor isn't supposed to get into a fist fight in the first place, dolt. It's a gun platform that has a Power Fist simply so it's not completely fucking helpless in melee
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>>54320972
Diff anon, butIn my experience, both serve a niche and are good in said niches.

The flash gitz double shooting is goddamn hilarious though, my Swarmlord got btfo by one squad because of it
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>>54320951
>>54320985
Don't talk to my etc etc
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>>54319122
did they do that ?
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I'm looking to sell a bunch of my Eldar models to an interested buyer. Does $175 sound reasonable for 10 metal Fire Dragons with an Exarch, 13 metal Warp Spiders with an Exarch, 9 metal Wraithguard, and two Wave Serpents?
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Whats the best loadout for Plague Marines?
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>>54321078
>slot bases
Those were dark times.
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>>54321085
No
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>>54321086
5 man units with 2 plasma/melta/blight guns depending on what you need.
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>>54321086
a) Don't gear them for melee. They suck in melee.
b) Generally speaking, unless you go for Blight Launchers, 2 Specials + 1 Combi, all of the same type, is efficient
c) imo Blight Launchers are awesome and 5 Plague Marines with two of them are never a bad investment.
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>>54321126
>a) Don't gear them for melee. They suck in melee.

If you keep the cheap they make for good tarpits.
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So why did ExSorc get nerfed? TSons are not nowhere near the strongest army around.
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>>54320858
> TFW army of Arbites with shotguns/mauls and shields charging in with assault vehicle Goliath Trucks
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>>54321110
Man, I'm really curious about the Easy to Build stuff. The minis come with slots, but except for the Poxwalkers, all of them should be standing on 32mm bases. Did they make new, bigger slotted bases?
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>>54321139
> Good Tarpits
> When they have Poxwalkers
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>tfw Blood Angel Tactical Squad with Heavy Flamer, Flamer and Sergeant with Combi-Flamer
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So, do Dark Angel successors care much about The Fallen?
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>>54321168

>Implying poxwalkers will get remotely close to the enemy backline before the game ends
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>>54321171
Welcome to December 2014, newfag.

Also, it's not as good anymore.
Lmao @ u.
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>>54321172\
Thanks to Azrael yes, they do. In the past they didn't give a shit though.
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>>54321075
>The flash gitz double shooting is goddamn hilarious though, my Swarmlord got btfo by one squad because of it
Now I'm imagining ol' Swarmy getting btfo'd over and over on Octarius by flash gitz, who keep thinking they just killed another Hive Tyrant.

Poor Swarmy gets no respect in the fluff man. I'm an Ork guy and it just doesn't seem right sometimes.
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>>54321183
Can you elaborate/point me to some reading material on this?
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>>54321171
I really like to play them that way, even though they arent as effective as they used to be
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>>54321139
Sure, but I'd rather have them stand 6" away, lobbing Blight Grenades and only charge as a last resort.

>>54321140
Because the ExSorc used to cost less than a normal Chaos Sorcerer despite being a good bit better. Their powers also buffed HERETIC ASTARTES the same as the vanilla sorcerer's so since you were paying a point less for more deny the witch, an inferno bolt pistol and an invul save, so even without any Rubric Marines for him to buff, the ExSorc was just a flat upgrade that cost less.
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>>54321056
>I'd think they have melee experience in dealing with riots, fugitives etc.

Maybe WS3+, but definitely not 2A.

They're basically the melee version of Scions
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>>54321172
Dark Angels Successors are all basically Dark Angels acting as if they're following the Codex by splitting into 1k strong Chapters while secretly still considering themselves a single unified Legion operating under the command of the Dark Angels Chapter Master.
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>>54321172
Usually but how dedicated they are to hunting them varies, some were created specifically to deal with the Fallen like the Disciples of Caliban whereas others like the Guardians of the Covenant usually have more pressing matters to deal with. Don't know how the primaris successor chapters work though.
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>>54321213
Weren't they TSon only, meaning that you had to pay the tax elsewhere? Just like Inferno Bolters are "only" 2pts.

Also, TSons are still weak, so nerfing them seems pointless.
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Are Inceptors going to be units of 5 or 3 in the codex you reckon?
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>>54321181
They're not supposed to.
They're supposed to form a line in front of your Plague Marines so that the opponent cannot charge and tie them up. If they actually do end up munching through Conscripts, then yay, good for you, but so long as they keep the Marines, Helbrutes and tanks out of melee, they did their job already.
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I can take imperium units like theyre all one giant faction, right?

Like celestine HQ, custodes troops. devastator heavy support, valkyrie flyer
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>>54321188
>Poor Swarmy gets no respect in the fluff man.
He shouldn't, he should never have been in the fluff to begin with. He is the biggest abortion of Tyranid fluff to come out of the shitpile that is the Cruddex era.
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>>54321263
They'll be 3 or 3-6.
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>>54321171
>not Multi-melta, melta and inferno pistol
gay
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>>54321182
The fuck are you smoking? They can fire the Heavy Flamer on the move now, how is that not as good as before?

>>54321262
Yes, they were Thousand Sons only, but their buffs weren't. You don't have to make an entire Thousand Sons army just to include an ExSorc, he just can't take any Legion keywords aside from "Thousand Sons". If this were untrue, Fabulous Bile wouldn't be allowed in any Chaos army.
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>>54321272
yes
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>>54321312
Neat
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>>54321017
>riot shield
>5++
More like grants 5+
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>>54321272
Sure. Expect bonuses for sticking to certain subfactions later when the Codizes come out, but for now, mix away. I'm also going to combine Primaris Marines, Custodes and Scions.
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>>54321308
>They can fire the Heavy Flamer on the move now
>now
It was already Assault last edition, you absolute fucking idiot. You could already do that.

It was good because Drop Pods last edition, now? Lol.
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>>54321308
That sucks.

Codex can't come soon enough. Seeing Magnus get focused down because rest of the legion is worthless is depressing.
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>>54321308
>They can fire the Heavy Flamer on the move now, how is that not as good as before?
Fuck off newfag.
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>>54321308
>Heavy Flamer
>not Assault in 7th
Jesus Christ.
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>>54321308
>Heavy Flamer
>Heavy
Did you actually stumble through 7th like this?
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>>54321342
How are Rubrics worthless? 2+ Armour against D1 and AP-2 Bolters for 20 points? Terminators that effectively lower the AP of D1 attacks by 1? Prescience to make your units hit on 2+? Tons of (weak) Smites?
And for anti-tank you have Predators and Helbrutes. What the fuck is your problem with a clearly good army?
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>>54321332
Riot shields always were ++ saves before.
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>>54321447
You're talking to an idiot that thought Heavy Flamers were heavy weapons in the previous ed.
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>>54321374
No, I took one good look at the Formations, the Knights in 500 points games, the Flier rules, the free Rhinos and the general WAACery of the game and decided to come back when 7th fucked off.
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>>54321468
>the free Rhinos
This didn't come until well into 7th, you're just new, and stupid.
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>>54321463
No he's not, fagface. Not everyone who disagrees with you is the same person.
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>>54321447
>What the fuck is your problem with a clearly good army?

Point costs? Or, to be exact, expensive units that struggle dealing with other expensive units.

>>54321463
>fails to follow chain of replies correctly
>calls other idiots
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>>54321480
>he doesn't remember when Heavy Flamers were Heavy weapons
Who's the newfag again? I've been part of this paintrain since 3rd Edition, bitch.
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>>54321449
Weird, but if it's got precedent who am I to judge
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>>54321501
>played through 5th's WAACery
>couldn't handle 7th's, but didn't even bother to learn the rules

HMMMMMM
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>>54321487
>Point costs? Or, to be exact, expensive units that struggle dealing with other expensive units.
Okay, I may be ignorant, but unless you're facing a Memescript army, how are 20 point Rubric Marines too expensive to rake their points back in?
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>>54321447
I say Rubrics are good.
Scarab Occults aren't as good (but not terrible)

With Rubrics to ignore All is Dust you have to waste D2 shots on 1W models.

While SO are 2W so shooting them with D2 makes sense.

>Prescience to make ONE OF your units hit on 2+?

Psychic Focus is a thing.
And that's something every (non-Khorne) CSM army may do.
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>>54321504
Years ago they were 2+ saves in combat. Necromunda days they were +2 to your save if fired from the front of the model. Which, in that game, gave you a 2+ save...which is pretty fucking strong.

Riot shields are basically just the same as combat shields from astartes factions. 5++
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>>54321531
>20 point Rubric Marines
You do realize that you have to pay 45 base for
axe aspiring sorc, right? Then additional points for Soulreaper which is almost a must.
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Is the Foetid Bloat Drone worth it? It's probably the fastest thing the Death Guard have, but the guns are just flamers based on it's strength.
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Trying to proxy my custodes stuff until actual 8th rules come out inb4 never ever

General imperium list
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>>54321541
Yes, Psychic Focus is a thing and looking at AoS this will definitely be remedied with the Codex (in AoS, Tzeentch got 2 spell lores with 6 spells each when their codex dropped, most of them good).

However, most Sorcerers in the arny can't even use the discipline and only toss out Smites, which aren't limited by Psychic Focus.

Sure you can only buff one unit per turn, but frankly nothing is stopping you from playing a single unit of 1 Aspiring Sorcerer and 19 Rubric Marines to make the most of your Warp Time and Prescience. Just fill the two other Troop slots out with Brimstone Horrors and done.
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>>54321568
It is a double heavy flamer which can fly. You run up, burn something, if they charge you overwatch. Then fallback, flame, overwatch.
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>>54321273
I'm honestly indifferent on him, but I can see why people hate him
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>>54321568
The guns are better heavy flamers that re-roll 1s to wound, they're pretty solid.

The blight-drone is also getting new weapon options when its full kit comes out.
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>>54321273
Why is it so bad, i dont understand
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>>54321555
Not seeing the problem considering that once you have bought that Sorcerer, nothing is stopping you from taking 19 Rubric Marines, which isn't that dumb considering they can split their fire.

>>54321568
Yes, based on its Strength 6, with AP-1 and since it can Fly, it can fall back from melee and then shoots its two gunk flamers. Also with T7, 10W, 3+/5++ and Disgustingly Resilient, it never ever dies.
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Some info we've learned from the stream today:

>A Space Marine Captain can be upgraded to a generic Chapter Master at the start of the game for 3 CP. It turns his re-roll hit rolls of 1 aura into re-roll all failed hit rolls aura.

>There's a Defenders of Humanity rule (Stratagem? Chapter Tactic?) that gives Troops the new Objective Secured

>There's a Warlord trait that lets you roll a dice for every Command Point you spend, and on a 5+ you get it back
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>>54321243
They would get their second attack from a melee weapon.
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>>54321340
Not that anon but mistakes do happen, especially if you take names of stuff literally. In my experience I thought assault cannons were assault, not heavy. I haven't played as/against Space Marines so I assumed wrong, and was somewhat scared of dreadnoughts because of the misunderstanding.
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>>54321648
Then you don't really read Tyranid fluff

I don't even know where to begin, I could write ten pages on how Swarmlord doesn't make any sense as a Tyranid. Anyone who was around pre-5th edition knows immediately what I'm talking about, almost everyone hated him the second that piece of shit codex was printed.
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>>54321648
Tyranids are supposed to be one single Hive Mind, no free thought allowed. Swarmy is supposed to be an intelligence kept separate from the Hive Mind in order to think outside the box when the Hive Mind can't outthink the enemy on its own.

That's why he shouldn't exist. There should not be any minds kept separate in a Hive Mind. If he's so smart, the Hive Mind should have assimilated its tactical acumen long ago so that it may benefit the entire Hive Mind.

If Tyranids are ants, then the Swarmlord is the ant queen outsourcing the tactics department to a wasp.
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>>54321689
thats not how it works anymore, except of they get chainswords
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>>54321722
Not really seeing how this is bad

Seems more like the nids are borg and the swarmlord is the borg queen
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>>54321740
or like Locutus
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>>54321722
>ant queen outsourcing the tactics department to a wasp.

>Have you tried stinging the shit out of them?
>We already told you, we don't have stingers.
>Oh...
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>>54321555
Grey Knights are 21, Sternguard are 19, Deathwatch are 19. I don't see the problem really. They cost 70% more than Scions with HS Volley Guns but are 6x more durable vs bolters.
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>>54321708
>and was somewhat scared of dreadnoughts because of the misunderstanding.
Dude, in previous editions. Walkers uniformly ignored the penalties for moving and shooting with heavies, or shooting heavies and charging.
C'mon man.
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>>54320084
>ask for citation
>get citation
>laugh it off because it contains facts that prove you wrong
Poetry
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>>54321772
Have you missed the part where i pointed out their in-built unit tax, or what?
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>>54321722
>The hivemind is having trouble adapting to a situation
>spawns off an isolated intelligence on the offchance it can figure out something the hivemind cant

Seems more like a fresh perspective/two heads are better than one scenario. Dont get the sperg rage
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>>54321740
borg queen basically ruined the borg as well.

Congrats
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>People shit all over Perty for decimating when pic related explains why it was justified
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>>54321740
That's the problem. The Swarmlord is NOT the queen so to speak. The closest the Tyranids have to an Ant Queen are the Norn Queen and even they are just slaves to the Hive Mind. The Hive Mind is all the minds of the Tyranids put together as one giant network of brains. The Swarmlord is supposed to be separate of this connection, which is something the Hive Mind would desperately want to avoid to not create consistencies. There's an old unit called Ymgarl Genestealers, which are astrayed Genestealers that the Hive Mind actively avoids reabsorbing because it could destabilize their genes. So why does it tolerate a glitch in the mind matrix like the Swarmlord? Oh yeah, because Cruddace thought Tyranids need a recognizable face, not understanding what makes Tyranids the faction that they are.
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>>54321759
Actually, there are species of ants who have stingers.
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>>54321820
Yeah but when most of us were growing up the one with the stinger was our uncle
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>>54321801
People would have a lot less of an issue with him if his Schick was less of "I am the most powerful tyranid ever of all time lmao" and more of "my will is the will of the hivemind made manifest"
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>>54321740
Except it's not like that at all.

The Hive Fleets are a gestalt mind. They are all psychically linked, thinking as one. Anything one Tyranid knows, they all know. So how can the Swarmlord know things the Hive Mind does not? How can it think it ways the Hive Mind does not? It's just one single brain that's WITHIN the Hive Mind.

Furthermore, because all Tyranids are genetically engineered and cloned in mass numbers, there's no reason the Hive Mind cannot replicate that brain as many times as it wants. Why would there only be one Swarmlord? Why would a race that operates on massive scales of quadrillions of organisms intentionally make only one of a thing, instead of hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands?

Furthermore, why does a race that has an entire identity around adapting to any given situation and constantly evolving, use the same weapons load-out and profile for it's best brainbug every time? If the Swarmlords brain is the important thing, why does it matter whether it sticks that in a Hive Tyrant or a Dominatrix or a Tervigon, and even if it was always a Tyrant, why always a Tyrant with four boneswords? Why never a flying variant, or a ranged weapon variant?

Furthermore, if the destruction of a Hive Tyrant does not diminish the Hive Mind in any way (direct quote from every edition of the Hive Tyrant fluff), then why does killing the Swarmlord even matter? If the Hive Mind contains all its memories and thoughts so that it can put them back in him when it revives him, why does he even need to be alive in the first place? Killing him shouldn't even make a difference, you're just killing the body, not the mind.

The synapse creatures aren't supposed to be anything more than the psychic network connection hubs that you kill to bring the synapse web "offline" for the bugs around them. It doesn't make the Hive Mind itself any less intelligent, it's just a drop in an ocean of highly engineered super-intelligent brain-matter.
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>>54321801
>Seems more like a fresh perspective
Yes, it is. But before Cruddace bumbled along, the Hive Mind would, after said fresh perspective came up with a new tactic, absorb that brain back into itself to assimilate the knowledge, but the Swarmlord, a single tiny brain, supposedly outsmarts the giant Hive Mind on a regular basis.
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>>54321813
I would've been fine with SL if he was just a Tyrant that performed above average and had a fondness for double boneswords...

>Kinda like Old One Eye, Deathleaper, etc.
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>>54321843
But all Hive Tyrants are the will of the Hive Mind made manifest.
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>>54321722
Think people believe the Hive Mind is a lot smarter than it is.
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>>54321776
I know that was the case in 7th Edition and back, but in 8th Edition that's not guaranteed. I'm just saying a name at a glance might trip someone up.
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>>54321801
How can an intelligence part of the larger collective figure out something the collective that includes it cannot?

How can being isolated from the collective be an advantage in thinking?

You don't understand neural networks.
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>>54321847
Maybe the hive mind isnt aware of it or cant control the creation of the swarmlord

Maybe it's a defense mechanism built into the tyranid genome by whatever created them. That when a hive fleet is in extreme duress it'll unconsciously spawn a swarmlord
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>>54321789
A sorcerer with smite and a bolt pistol isn't really significantly overcosted.
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>>54321860
Because it was that smart before Cruddace came along and ruined it with his shitty fluff and special snowflake tyrant jobber extraordinaire.

I mean just from a logical perspective it's impossible for the Hive Mind to not be the most intelligent thinking entity in the 40k setting.
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>>54321847
> They are all psychically linked, thinking as one. Anything one Tyranid knows, they all know.

Except in the fluff that's not how it works at all, eg splinter fleets have a range limit on their psychic link. One splinter can encounter new tactics or threats and the other will not know how to counter it till they merge.
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>>54321860
Has the Hive Mind ever really fought something "big" and won?

>Slaanesh cast aside the Shadow during Valedor to get to the Eldar Souls
>The Emperor saved Tiggy from the Hive Mind.
>Illic dealt the Hive Mind (the Entity ITSELF) a wound from his spear.
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>>54321883
how does one human figure out something that another doesnt?

One brain is pretty much the same as another isnt it?
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I look forward to reading more about Tyranid defeats in the best place to read it.
Their codex

Looking forward to some named Tyranid HQs next
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>>54321896
Nothing "created" the Tyranids that we know of, it's more likely their origin is entirely of their own evolution.

How could the Hive Mind not be in control of its own decisions?

What "Tyranid genome" are you referring to? Every organism has a different genome and all of them are genetically engineered by the Norn Queens to serve specific functions, even those of the Norn Queens themselves.

How is making one particular brain a "defense mechanism" of any use? That doesn't even address any of the points I already made about how it's strictly inconsistent with the way Tyranids operate to begin with.
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>>54321860
It isn't conventionally smart, that's the thing. But any brain created BY the Hive Mind, could never be smarter than the Hive Mind itself. Imagine coding a program to translate a language you don't speak or even understand. Yeah, like that. You can't create anything that understands things you do not.
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>>54321923
That doesn't even remotely apply to a neural network of millions of linked brains.

Adding one person to another person is "two heads are better than one".

Adding one brain that you designed yourself and can replicate as much as you want to 234534574564623456345745332465 other brains to which you've already done the same thing? How the fuck is that comparable?
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>>54321932
Theyre weird fucking aliens, stop pretending like youre an expert on collective intelligence and hiveminds
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>>54321917
>lilic
that was Yriel and it was not literal.
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>>54321955
Nobody needs to be an expert to understand how the Swarmlord fluff is completely retarded and inconsistent with everything else around it. It was spotted instantly by everyone I talked to on the Tyranid forums at the time the 5th edition Codex first came out. Everyone who isn't an underage newfag knows that the Swarmlord fluff is part of the nonsensical garbage that gives modern 40k fluff a bad rep.
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>>54321944
I can create a machine that learns languages though, over time I will have a machine that can translate a language I don't understand
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New thread time.

>>54321982
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If you become a Watch-Captain, are you ever going home?
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Do we have rules for 8th ed inquisition
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>>54321917
Tyranids never win shit. It's all about
YEAH BUT SCOUTING FORCE LOL and it's getting boring.
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>>54322030
Now half that scouting force got eaten by Khorne.
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>>54321955
>gets btfo
>hurrrrr weird aliens it doesnt HAVE to make SENSE
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>>54321944
>But any brain created BY the Hive Mind, could never be smarter than the Hive Mind itself.
This is bullshit. Self-upgrading computer systems are not far off and could be the single most dangerous scientific breakthrough of our species.
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>>54321917
I hate this question because the answer is always the same and the answers to that answer are always just as dumb as the last time, but here we go.

>Behemoth almost single-handedly ate the entire little utopia the Ultramarines had built, cost Macragge practically all its ammunition and still killed almost the entirety of their first company
>HALF of Hive Fleet Kraken almost destroyed all of Iyanden and made them into the Wraith construct aficionados that they are now.
>Leviathan is currently just about the greatest threat the galaxy faces (though, to be honest, that giant warp rift is giving them a run for their money)
No, they all the major battles they fought they lost, but if they ever win such a fight, the galaxy is gone, dead, eaten, because every planet they eat makes them even stronger and the next time you fight them you need an even stronger army to stop them.

However, idiots like >>54321930 seem to think this means they're not a threat.
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>>54321990
But you would understand it if that machine was literally plugged into your brain and you and it were constantly thinking as one.
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>>54322051
>Now half that scouting force got eaten by Khorne.
And the other half is currently getting used as a punching bag for every Ork heading to the Octarius War. Go figure.
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>>54322071
That's because we aren't the computer systems.

But to the Tyranids, they're not the people making those systems, they are the systems.

You're fucking up the comparison.
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>>54322079
>However, idiots like >>54321930 (You) seem to think this means they're not a threat.

lel
you ready to job, you cockroaches?
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>>54321273
Never understood the autistic spasms surrounding the Swarmlord
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>>54322096
So then the Hive Mind is simply an algorithm that adapts to changing (yet limited) set parameters, and the Swarmlord is the dude saying "Actually producing more of x doesn't really counter y despite historical data, I suggest z" and then the Norn Queens make changes based on the Swarmlord's designs.
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>I spawned this tyranid shitshow
Fug, all i wanted to do was say flash gitz weren't bad
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>>54322163
He is contradictory to the tyranid fluff. While they could write him in as a more fitting character, as he currently stands he is the black sheep of the hive
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>>54322199
Thanks for info on Gitz, already planning on getting more
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>>54322199
Appreciated the advice about the flash gitz btw.
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>>54322199
But how do you make them not bad?
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>>54320514
>wadda 'bout xtraxtradakka?

I don't understand how i am dying of laugh for this bad joke
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>>54322199
it's better than other shitstorms we've had in these threads.
At least it's 40k related.
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>>54322382
>is the hivemind a nonbinary PoC immigrant?
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>>54322219
>as he currently stands he is the black sheep of the hive
I suspect that's part of why the Swarmlord exists. The Hivemind's conquered galaxies, so it must know that operating by group-think alone (which sums up its existence in a nutshell) can't solve all it's problems.

Having the Swarmlord as a 'black sheep'/'strategic critic' in addition to 'war general' kinda makes sense.

Basically the Swarmlord's the guy who comes and goes, "Hey moron! Fucking moron!", before telling the Norn-Queen what it's doing wrong, and then leads the attack himself to make sure nothing gets fucked up.
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The Swarmlord is the intellect of a biology scientist who was searching for a solution to the problem of immortality when his wife Norn passed away from an illness. Hoping to create a race of beings free from the worries of sickness or death, eventually the Tyranids were born. Now he exists purely as a mind that seeks to help his children achieve true biological perfection, and to bring this gift to others.
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