/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
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>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Modern Spearhead

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July 14th in military history:

756 – An Lushan Rebellion: Emperor Xuanzong flees the capital Chang'an as An Lushan's forces advance toward the city.
1420 – Battle of Vítkov Hill, decisive victory of Czech Hussite forces commanded by Jan Žižka against Crusade army led by Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor.
1789 – French Revolution: Citizens of Paris storm the Bastille.
1791 – The Priestley Riots drive Joseph Priestley, a supporter of the French Revolution, out of Birmingham, England.
1881 – Billy the Kid is shot and killed by Pat Garrett outside Fort Sumner.
1900 – Armies of the Eight-Nation Alliance capture Tientsin during the Boxer Rebellion.
1916 – Start of the Battle of Delville Wood as an action within the Battle of the Somme, which was to last until 3 September.
1928 – New Vietnam Revolutionary Party is founded in Huế, providing some of the Communist Party's most important leaders in its early years.
1933 – Gleichschaltung: In Germany, all political parties are outlawed except the Nazi Party.
1948 – Palmiro Togliatti, leader of the Italian Communist Party, is shot and wounded near the Italian Parliament.
1950 – Korean War: North Korean troops initiate the Battle of Taejon.
1958 – Iraqi Revolution: In Iraq the monarchy is overthrown by popular forces led by Abd al-Karim Qasim, who becomes the nation's new leader.
1969 – Football War: After Honduras loses a soccer match against El Salvador, riots break out in Honduras against Salvadoran migrant workers.

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It is 48 years since the Football War began, with El Salvador invading Honduras. The cause of the war was economic in nature, namely issues concerning immigration. These existing tensions between the two countries coincided with rioting during a 1970 FIFA World Cup qualifier. The Organization of American States negotiated a ceasefire on the night of 18 July (hence "100 Hour War") which took full effect on 20 July. Salvadoran troops were withdrawn in early August. Despite the elapse of more than forty years, a formal peace treaty, a decision by the International Court of Justice and the support of the Organization of American States, the dispute remains active.

Honduras and El Salvador met in a 1970 FIFA World Cup qualifier. There was fighting between fans at the first game in the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa on 8 June 1969, which Honduras won 1–0. The second game, on 15 June 1969 in the Salvadoran capital of San Salvador, which was won 3–0 by El Salvador, was followed by even greater violence. A play-off match took place in Mexico City on 26 June 1969. El Salvador won the decisive third game 3–2 after extra time. That same day, El Salvador dissolved all diplomatic ties with Honduras, stating that "the government of Honduras has not taken any effective measures to punish these crimes which constitute genocide, nor has it given assurances of indemnification or reparations for the damages caused to Salvadorans".

Late in the afternoon of 14 July 1969, concerted military action began. San Salvador City was put on a black out and the Salvadoran Air Force, using passenger airplanes with explosives strapped to their sides as bombers, attacked targets inside Honduras. Salvadoran air-raid targets included the airport facility at Toncontin, which left the Honduran Air Force unable to react quickly. The larger Salvadoran army launched major offensives along the two main roads connecting the two nations and invaded Honduras.

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>>54317410
>>54317410 (You)
Initially, rapid progress was made by the Salvadoran army. By the evening of 15 July, the Honduran army had been pushed back over eight kilometers. The departmental capital of Nueva Ocotepeque fell shortly after along with eight other cities, placing the Salvadoran army within striking distance of the Honduran capital Tegucigalpa. The momentum of the advance did not last, however. The Honduran air force reacted by striking the Salvadoran Ilopango airbase.

On 15 July, the OAS met in an emergency session and demanded that El Salvador withdraw from Honduras. The government in San Salvador refused unless promised that reparations would be made to those Salvadorans who were displaced and those who remained in Honduras would not be harmed. Nicaraguan dictator Somoza helped Honduras by providing weapons and ammunition.

El Salvador finally withdrew its troops on 2 August. On that date, Honduras guaranteed Salvadoran President Fidel Sanchez Hernandez that the Honduran government would provide adequate safety for the Salvadorans still living in Honduras. Sanchez had also asked that reparations be paid to the Salvadoran citizens as well, but that was never accepted by Hondurans. The casualty count is uncertain; around 900 Salvadorans lost to 2,100 Hondurans.

The Football War was the last conflict in which piston-engined fighters fought each other, both sides deploying some World War II era design aircraft. Cavalier P-51D Mustangs, F4U-1, -4 and -5 Corsairs, T-28A Trojans, AT-6C Texans and even C-47 Skytrains converted into bombers saw action.

When it comes to modern brushfire wars Africa tends to steal a lot of the glory, but here's a curious and rather nasty scrap perfectly suited to modern skirmish gaming.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/lh6fh750wia0awi/Osprey+-+MAA+221+-+Central+American+Wars+1959+-+89.pdf

>>54317370
Wargames general would love to have you all, we're a largish discord server spawned by /tg/ and focus on tabletop miniatures games. We've got quite a few Flames of War and Bolt Action players.

https://discord.gg/QU2djTV

>Ivan tried to fix it a bit by introducing the ability to activate up to three dudes at once if they did the same single thing (run or shoot)

I wonder if it's possible to mess with and make more conventional without gutting the stress system that makes the game what it is?

Maybe reducing amount of overall actions available per turn from a D6 to a D4, and have the action points as always a move/shoot action rather than one or the other unless it's an extended move.
One of the game's problems I find is the 'rush' moves are far too irregular, often coming up shorter than a regular move. Partly it's a problem of wargames terrain generally not having suitably lumpy ground to provide a lot of what in reality is fairly decent concealment whilst moving for rush moves between cover. I think it's better than FoF's running all over the place at high speed, but with the pacing of the game, advances can be incredibly gradual and there often isn't much option for flanking moves unless in the most possible clutter of terrain.

HWG, this may seem like a strange thing to ask you, but if you wanted to take Napoleonic war and add magic, what would you do to make it worth bothering with without obsoleting the normal soldiers?

>>54318630
Communications. Have magic users be able to, sometimes, with a lot of danger and stress, be able to send messages to one another.

>>54318630
Make magic more buff-based than outright offensive.

>>54318630
Logistics and transport. Roads. Straight, smooth, supremely marchable roads that don't seem too directly concerned with the actual geography of the region.

>>54318630
>>54318754
>>54318756
>>54318887
I kinda feel like there should be some magic concerned with cannon and muskets, since those are the most distinctive parts of Napoleonic as opposed to medieval or bronze age or w/e

>>54318630

Read, or watch the miniseries of, 'Johnathon Strange & Mr Norrel.

>>54319010
Magic capable of helping in the creation of cannons and muskets, and/or making them safer?

>>54319010
That's not something gentlemen would involve themselves with. Haven't you read Clarke?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Strange_%26_Mr_Norrell

>The Cabinet ministers find Strange easier to deal with than Norrell, and they send him to assist the Duke of Wellington on his Peninsular Campaign. For over a year, Strange helps the army: he creates roads, moves towns, and makes dead men speak. After he returns, he fails to cure George III's madness, although Strange manages to save the king from the gentleman with thistle-down hair, who is determined to make Stephen a king. Strange then helps defeat Napoleon at the horrific Battle of Waterloo.

(it's really good)

>>54319027
>Johnathon Strange & Mr Norrel

I haven't seen it, but I've read the book, and it was incredibly, INCREDIBLY boring.

>>54319113
>(it's really good)

If by really good you mean Jonathon talks about how easy weather magic is and then faffs about totally ignoring it? Or Mr "I'm gonna be a tremendous cunt at all times to my own detriment for no apparent reason" Norrell? Or what about "just gonna make this pact, why bother reading the fine print when fairies are so trustworthy?" Norrell? Or what about England, the nation of totally dope magic that for no reason whatsoever has totally forgotten how to do it?

I hate that fucking book. Also, as >>54319116
notes, I'd rather watch paint dry. Literally. I stuck it out becuase I was told it was good and worth letting it get going, and it never, ever did. By the end I was actively rooting against the main characters.

>>54319010
The issue with this is either;
> Magic is purely how muskets and cannon function and may as well just be gunpowder,
>Magic alters how muskets and cannon work, thus changing the part of Napoleonics you consider distinctive,

Also, I would argue muskets and cannon are in no way the distinctive part of Napoleonics, they are functionally no different to the weapons of the entire 18th Century.
Organisation was really the big change.

missed last thread
>>54230271
>>54237584
Any chance for
Phoenix Command Russian Roulette - The Breakup of the Soviet Union
Phoenix Command In the Name of God - Conflict in the Middle East
Phoenix Command Playing Aids
Bram Stoker's Dracula Rpg
Terminator 2 Rpg
Lawnmower Man: Virtual Reality Role Playing Game
Sword's Path Glory, Book 1: Medieval Melee System
Sword's Path Glory, Book 2: Role Playing
Spectrum Small Arms?
>>54237124
PC could be great for such small number. I've played basic modern scenario with friends, and from such experience even typical combat from westerns could be played (like dozen bandits vs few good guys plus civilians). But for best experience GM must play as one side (which allow fast fog of war), map is extremely helpful, also players should know basic of system. Even then reserve evening for such combat.

>>54319478
Well, I was using Napoleonic as shorthand for like 1700-1815, which I realize is a bit sloppy, but w/e, 4 AM here.

Anyways, this is sort of what I'm struggling with - I don't want to just have fireball cannons and lightning wand muskets, meaning the magic is pointless, and I also don't want something like, say, fire mages that can easily spark gunpowder at range because then nobody would use gunpowder in the first place.

I feel like there's some great potential, but i just can't quite get it to click. Gonna sleep, see if anyone was struck by brilliance when I wake up.

Wargamevault is having a sale.

Any recommendations?

>>54319198

I only saw the adaption, but since the book is a take on Jane Austin era novels I can believe it's boring. In the show though he called down fog to stall a French attack and rain at Waterloo.

https://youtu.be/WUtDkfHlzgs

>>54320080
looks pretty bad ngl

>>54320051
Basic Impetus 2 or any of the other dadi&piombo systems. They're all pretty decent.
FiveCore.

Some of the terrain is pretty decent if you want papercraft buildings for say, filling out a 6mm battlefield.

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I want to do some WW2 skirmishes with 5-10 miniatures on each side.

I figured that some soviet partisans vs german anti-partisan units might be an interesting topic as well as a reasonable inspiration for such small battles. (Yes, i'm well aware that there were "big" battles with thousands of partisans against even more germans and their russian helpers but small scale raids were frequent too).

What are some good 28mm miniatures i could use? I saw that Warlord Games offers a set of 10 men for soviet partisans (as well as a set for western ones). Are there other companies?

I'm open to suggestions for 20mm too.

Pic unrelated

how the FUCK do you play Italians in Bolt Action? I've plated two games as them so far and both times I extended too far and got hit with Avanti Savoia

>>54320286
I'm not 100% familiar with their rules, but they get bonus for entrenching right? So dig in and play defensive?

>>54320286
Don't extend too far.

>>54320205
Caesar has two awesome boxes of Partisans in 1:72 as well as like ten hundred thousand Germans.

>>54320205
I like black tree Design soviets, they may have some partizans as well but a lot of soviet partizans where actually red army soldiers so it shouldn't matter too much.

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Been sent some pictures of some 28mm Russian liberation army figures from miniature figurines .co.UK as I emailed the owner about the lack of pictures.

>>54319478
>Also, I would argue muskets and cannon are in no way the distinctive part of Napoleonics, they are functionally no different to the weapons of the entire 18th Century.
>Organisation was really the big change.
It's actually the hats that are the real difference.

fuck shako, tricorne for lyfe

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Warlord will be releasing Australians soon for Bolt Action and I'm feeling a strong urge to paint these ferocious fighters. I'm already building a Finnish army so I find it entertaining that I'll be collecting miniatures of the two nations famous for shitposting on /int/.

>>54321562
>webstore doesn't have images of their product

I still don't understand why some stores still do this. I can't buy something if I don't know what it looks like.

>>54321817
>spoiler
Get OUT of my /hwg/ Shako a goat

>>54322455
>Owen guns

I'm intrigued...

>>54323287
Shako goat? The Stovepipe is ok, Belgic is trash. Tricorne/Cocked Hat is TIDY. Pith A BEST.

>>54323416
I'll also aceept TARLETONS A BEST

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What miniatures could I use to oppose these (definitely not Russian) organised volunteer forces?
They're 15mm by Oddzial Osmy.

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Repostin from last thread

Bolt Action campaign guy here with an update. 1940 was mostly quiet, with isolated sparring for control, until September, when the Republics of Britain and Ireland finally awoke and began prepping for an invasion of the Scandinavian Confederacy. In the east, Prussian and Soviet forces duel over Budapest and the fields of western Russia

Due to an error in the map copying, an island has been accidentally created in the North Sea with exactly the same shape as the northern coast of Denmark (which went unnoticed until now) The Scandinavian forces have stood on the defenses on this so called Carolus Island, beating back the initial British assault on their beaches, ending in disaster for Britain with nearly 50% casualties

By this point we've established a firm alternate history - while the Soviet Union exists, Trotsky is Premier. The Scandinavian Confederacy, under Finnish leadership, has unified the northern countries, the King was tossed out and a Republic established in Britain, and Prussia is staring at them with apprehension while they fight the Soviets in the east.

>>54324443
As of September 1941, date of this map, the US player is still AWOL

>>54323416
Bicornes tho

>>54324443
>>54324472
Whats the deal with the U.S. player If he is doing this for historical reasons I get it but If he's been lazy kick him out and get someone else.
Also I've really enjoyed following this.

>>54322455
>I still don't understand why some stores still do this. I can't buy something if I don't know what it looks like.
I hear you. It's such a baffling, decision

Hype for Aussies though.

>>54325623
He's married, and we're playing on Thursdays. We've sort of assumed he's not turning up

Hopefully we'll pick up some new players when classes start up again in September

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Budapest '45. Tiller software. Operation Konrad. Turn 24 of 395. German Human, Soviet AI with +30 advantage.

3 and 1/2 days after starting the offensive and I can say I'm happy with the advance so far. Crossing the river that marked the demarcation line was a bit rough as the snows prevented a lot of mobile maneuvering. Bridging Operations were started along the northern banks of the Danube to open up more avenues of approach It took 2 days to get the bridges up.

Over all 7 Divisions stepped off on January 1st. 1 Hungarian, 2 SS, and 4 Wermacht. They faced off against the Soviet 4th and 34th Guards Rifle Divisions. Most of both divisions were destroyed in the 3 days of fighting, the 4th almost ceasing to exists and the 34th scattering and falling back in the Gerecse Hill twords Bjanda.

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>>54327163
In the southern part of the advance elements of 6th Panzer, the 977 Grn Rgt, and the 10th Panzer Regiment of Div. GR Pape managed to push 11-13 kilometers through heavy wooded terrain capturing the villages of Tatabanya and Felsogalla. They managed to catch and encircle 9 battalions of the 4th Guards Infantry in the woods south of Tatabanya. Advance elements have just ran into forward elements of the Soviet 7th Mech Corps. The 45 Panthers of the 10th Panzer are rushing to intercept while the Pz IVs of Gr Pape engage the T-34/85s.

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>>54327179
In the middle, the 5th SS "Wiking" managed to blow a hole several kilometers wide and 25 kilometers deep. Thier advance met with little resistance as they seemed to hit the line between the areas of responsibility for the Soviet 4th and 34th Guards divisions. Lead elements of the 5th SS have encountered elements of the Soviet 18th Tank Corps.

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>>54327198
In the north, the most success has been made. The 3rd SS "Totenkopf" have managed to advance 32 kilometers. This was in no small part due to elements of the 96th Infantry Division and the Hungarian 2nd Infantry Regiment of the Szent-Laszio Infantry Division crossing the Danube by boat and securing 2 separate bridgeheads allowing bridging operations to commence. The bridging operations also will now allow 3 more units to cross and advance on Budapest. The rest of the 95th Infantry Division, the remainder of the 3rd SS, and elements of the 711 VG Division.

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>>54327215
Budapest itself is definitely under siege. I have counted units from aprox 20 different Divisions surrounding the city. Soviet Regular and Guards, Ive spotted at least 2 Naval Infantry Divisions, and there are Romanian Cav and Infantry divisions on the east side of the city. Due to the sheer weight of artillery fire the city is receiving each turn im guessing over 1200 guns are pointed at the city itself....The Soviets have been ruthless in assaulting the initial line of defense. in the northwest they spent 2 days assaulting one line of defense almost non stop. over 6000 men and over 100 tanks continued to hit a single point in the line. fortunately, they never broke through but I was constantly rotating troops out of the line to push fresh units in. They have been successful in other parts. Here and there they have breached the first line of bunkers. The biggest success came in the north where 80 T-34/85s manage to blow a hole 3 kilometres wide and 2 kilometers deep into the city. I did manage to get a unit in place to cut them off and after a day of hard fighting and the commitment of 1/2 of Budapest's 40 tanks (mostly a mix of StuGs and Zyrini Assault guns), the 2 battalions of tanks were destroyed, but the Soviets are making advances..small ones..a hex here..a hex there......

there is little subtility in this battle. The snow and heavy forest prevents much in the way of grand maneuvers, this is just a series of repeated hammer blows against each other.....

>>54327230
Nice AAR there ASLAnon. Seems like quite the meatgrinder.

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>>54323448
>tarletons

You, sir, are my nigga.

>>54327230
Great write up.
You might actually tempt me into hex and chit one of these days.

>>54330638
>trees on bases
reee

>>54318630
Magic should be uncommon at the very least, and rare at best. Typically it should be considered highly destructive and very chaotic. Each division has a mage attached to it, who's primary role is to act as a supportive caster and anti-mage, slinging fireballs and trying to dispel any spells slung by enemy casters.

A rare few should be versed in teleportation and portals, allowing for smaller divisions to conduct unexpected flanking maneuvers that would be impossible without magic, or allowing a cannon to use grapeshot on an enemy unit that would be to far away under normal circumstances. Of course this magic is largely used for the teleportation of shots over a longer distance, as men have a rare but unfortunate habit of entering portals whole and leaving them as nothing but a shower of gore and bone.

Oh, and long distance comms. That too.

>>54318630
Temeraire/His Majesties dragon is Napoleon

>>54317410
Great write-up of the football war, something that has interested me for a while.

>>54331352
>Oh, and long distance comms. That too.
Interfering with communications? Replace an enemy messenger with one of your own and screw with orders, or just have the messenger get lost.

>>54331352
>Typically it should be considered highly destructive and very chaotic. Each division has a mage attached to it, who's primary role is to act as a supportive caster and anti-mage, slinging fireballs and trying to dispel any spells slung by enemy casters.

Did you even read his whole post? If you have all these mages hanging around nuking battalions, why bother with the battalion in the first place?

Does anyone have PDFs of Little Orc Wars, or Funny Little Wars and its campaign supplement?

Laserblade, Battleblade or Alien Worlds from Echidna Games?

No?

Ah well, worth a shot.

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Anyone played it?
How does the system fare? And what's this Blaze of Glory stuff about? Is there another (twice the material) edition avalible?

KV-1 in a post-1944 Soviet force, yay or nay?

>>54332371
I don't know about post-1944, but 1944 would be a yay.

"Some KVs remained in service right up to the end of the war, although in greatly diminishing numbers as they wore out or were knocked out. The 260th Guards Heavy Breakthrough Tank Regiment, based on the Leningrad front, operated a number of 1941-vintage KV-1s at least as late as the summer of 1944 before re-equipping with IS-2s. A regiment of KVs saw service in Manchuria in August 1945, and a few KV-85s were used in Crimea in the summer of 1944"

>>54332256
That's the second edition. The first edition was a much shorter game, far more limited, lacking most of the campaign stuff, and (because it's THW) incredibly poorly-written despite being a fun game.

Of course, even that's still a fairly old THW game, so not too easy to learn. Worth a shot though. Some of the latest games have felt a little streamlined to me.

>>54332491
I mean, Six Gun Sound: Blaze of Glory is the second edition.

>>54332501
actually hang on, that pic seems to be an even newer edition? that's not currently available? but there's currently no edition available?

...oh, they're selling via rebel minis now. Yeah, that's the latest one now, then.

>>54332256

>Anyone played it?
No, but there are a ton of it's siblings I have, so ...

>How does the system fare?
Quick and easy to learn (despite the absolute lack of any kind of logical layout by the writer) - moves quickly.
(the producer's name is not idle boasting)

>And what's this Blaze of Glory stuff about? Is there another (twice the material) edition avalible?
That's the lite RPG spinoff of the main rules.
Expands on the setting a bit with all the different rules, so it's not just all gunfights all the time. (altho I've no idea why ... )

>>54331840
>why bother with the battalion in the first place?
since the opposing side has magicians who dispel your spell

>>54332585
So it's just Napoleonics then?

>>54332371
rare but not unthinkable rare.
Even some BT-7s were still in use at the end of the war.

Would anyone have a PDF of THW's Morale Napoleon by any chance?

>>54332653
They'd still turn up for Unthinkable if they're playing that.

:^)

>>54332611
hopefully yes, but then again I like low fantasy shit

>>54332890
This isn't even low fantasy, it's Napoleonic plus an extra two dudes with their thumbs up their asses.

>>54332491
>>54332501
>>54332525
Damn. Is there any place to obtain second edition?

>>54331352

IMHO, 'Practical Guide to Evil' has the best integration of mages into Armed Forces ever in it's Legions of Terror(TM).

OTOH, any Fantasy setting is basically Ancient/Dark Age/Medieval soldiers + magic.
Gunpowder age would just be more of the same.
Even worse, really, since one (well-placed) fireball hitting a caisson would blow an entire battery sky-high.

And in the 3rd place: TAKE IT TO /AWG/!

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>>54332942

Here you go, anon.

>>54322455
beware anon, the new range is noticeably bigger than the older chindits, no mixing im afraid.

>>54332989
Bless you anon.

>>54332989
This has like twice the page count of the 3rd edition, but honestly, page count can bloat and trim wildly without affecting content in THW games. I'll probably pick up 3e next time I'm into westerns, but I have my old copy of this one printed somewhere anyway.

>>54333246

Well, if you can nab the 3rd edition, stranger, I'd be mighty grateful for a copy.

Yes, this one has double the amount of pages because of all the special Camapaign rules for Cowboys, Gunslingers, Lawmen and stuff.

It's basically advertised as a Lite RPG.
Or at least it WAS advertised.

>>54332968
>IMHO, 'Practical Guide to Evil' has the best integration of mages into Armed Forces ever in it's Legions of Terror(TM).

what now

>>54333758

What, exactly, are you confused about?

Can't be about 'Practical Guide to Evil' - since it's actually THE no.1 result of the google search.

And Legions of Terror is basically a generic meme name of the BBEG's Armed Forces.

So ... ???

>>54334369
Just tell us what the fuck you're on about, I'm not reading a hundred blog-bites of fiction to figure it out without at least a chapter to go to or something.

>>54334578

Their War College trains both new Officer Cadets and Battlefield Mages.
Mages have to learn two basic spells within 5 years: Fireball and Healing. (better ones manage Scrying as well)

Once they pass, they are assigned to a Mage Platoon in one of the Legions of Terror, which is then doled out (on an ad-hoc basis - auftragstaktik style) to the Light/Heavy/Sapper/Cavalry Battalions/Companies/Platoons according to the requirements, or kept together as a reserve.

In any case, they have a distinct place within a Legion's TO&E.

You know what's got good military magic? The Nightmare Stacks.

Also features hot jet fighter on dragon action, hotter SAM on dragon action, and kettenkrad on elf action. and vampire mages.

But reading >>54334687 and going back to the Napoleonic-esque context, I'd still argue that fireball is not what you want. Sure, teach a special forces sneak mage to stealth in and blow shit up then get the fuck out, or ambush a formation, but fireball is something you can effectively duplicate with manpower, and manpower is cheap.

Healing, otoh, makes manpower cheaper and lets you preserve experienced manpower, but it's still not as good as some great and powerful wizard who's really good at making the provisions trucks run on time. Maybe they're using fireball as part of a field bakery, IDK.

>>54334832
>kettenkrad
also holy shit the road wheels on that thing, fucking nazis could not into good tracks like at all.

>>54334832

Actually, flinging fireballs on a gunpowder-packed battlefield sounds like a recipe for a disaster to me.

One well-placed fireball hits a caisson, and you can kiss your battery goodbye.
Also, one single soldier hit with it, and all the remaining ammo on him goes boom.

Yeah, things will go back to good ol' cold steel in a flash. (literally)

>>54335029
>Yeah, things will go back to good ol' cold steel in a flash

In some settings they use air rifles to avoid mages setting off their powder.

Unless you believe in magic but not air rifles.

>>54335101

Air rifles are a good idea - don't know how practicable, though.
Not many units used them - even in the Austrian Army.

>>54335142
>Air rifles are a good idea - don't know how practicable, though.

They weren't meant for general battlefield use, but were for fighting mages so the mages couldn't ignite their powder.

>>54335142
You've already tossed out logic and physics since you're insisting on magic. What's a bit more?

>>54335632
Once upon a time I started to write a fantasy world where a bunch of Thirty Years War Swedes ended up via a rift. After they ran out of blackpowder, they asked mages to forge lil' arcane stones that'd work exactly as that, so they could keep on doing all pike and shotte.

Maybe something similar, or magic fire doesn't ignite powder or something, guess they had enough time to come up a spell like that. A trigger in the spell that stops it any time it'd hit powder, maybe, iunno, be creative man.

>>54318630
Personally I'd like magic in Pike and Shot era.
Also adds the fun witch-hunting Puritan stuff alongside.

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Have some winter Revell US, guys.

Hey anons, before I go diving into the links of mini providers, maybe you can narrow it down for me.

Looking for crusade era minis or minis that can be used for it, anyone have any experience in this area?

>>54337423
wot scale and early or late crusades?

>>54337201
These look really good. I remember having that set when i was a child.

>>54337517
Thanks, and yeah, it's not an exactly new set. I was commissioned to paint up a box or two around 5 years ago, I did these for mine and I still really like them. The BAR gunner is especially cool.

>>54337615
Its really strange with these 1/72 sets. Some of the oldest available from some companies look still better than some of the most recent releases from other companies.

>>54337638
You wonder where did those sculptors go? These sets are not THAT old that the guy who did them died (okay, some are, but still)...

I'll try to grab the Italeri winter US figs (I'll probably grab a Battle of the Bulge set with some tanks, buildings, guns and buildings) to have more poses and expand them into a platoon.

>>54337510
early to late, 28mm preferably but 25 is fine too. Basically from 1135-1190

>>54329009
oh its a meat grinder. On the Soviet side ive managed to encircle about 19 battaliosn of troops and grind them down to nothing. and there is nothing but a constant stream of casualties out of budapest. so much soviet artillery.

>>54329557
one of these days!

Any good RPG sourcebooks that cover Dark Ages Britain, it's really the nuts and bolts of worldbuilding that I need, happy with everything through the post-Roman and early medieval period.

>>54340662
What about the old Pendragon game? It's not historical obviously but it might be useful.

Anyone know if victrix sell individual sprues or if you have to buy full boxes?

>>54340726
Might be good for mythology but there is a FATE sourcebook that's much closer to the period, I might pick that up at some point.

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Unemployment means I can't buy craft supplies, but I threw this together with what I already had. Fighting pit to indicate dug-in tanks for Bolt Action

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>>54343997
>Unemployment means I can't buy craft supplies

I know that feel anon

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Played a good game of ostfront down at the club today - got the Chinese out for some Sino-Japanese war action. Japanese had just supplemented their forces with 6 Ha-Go light tanks and 2 Ho-I tank destroyers (from the aliexpress site - very cheap and come pre-painted and mostly assembled)

Chinese as usual took mass casualties from Japanese artillery - losing some 9 platoons by the end of the game (~ 450 men). Chinese air power helped to smash the Japanese artillery in close air support. Chinese mortar teams put up smoke to cover the infantry's advance on the central objectives, while the Japanese infantry was smashed back by a combination of infantry and mortar fire (the Chinese having no heavy artillery). Chinese 70mm Gai Liang field guns made short work of any Japanese light tanks in the open, and while a few of the Chinese Vickers 6-ton tanks were destroyed by veteran Japanese SNLF, the combined Chinese forces eventually overpowered the center. Despite massive casualties, the Chinese still had just enough infantry to hold the objectives, while the Japanese losses were unsustainable.

The game ended in a clear Chinese Victory - a mostly infantry and light support army against a veteran and balanced Japanese list with more than twice the amount of armor!

>>54345696
Looks fun, man. If I hadn't put all my effort into getting my group into Bolt Action I might try Ostfront. Can you play it at a 28mm scale?

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>>54345838
>Can you play it at a 28mm scale?
You probably could but its designed for a larger scale of battle - the infantry platoon being the smallest element and with each side usually taking multiple tanks, armored cars, field guns and artillery. Its a bit claustrophobic even at the 1/72 scale we play at. Probably suits 15mm or 10mm, or even 6mm much better.

I started an "Ostfront Skirmish" aimed at 28mm and individual based miniatures a while back, but didn't put much time into it. Perhaps some day I'll finish it off as people seem to love 28mm WW2 skirmish.

>>54345974
Ah. I'm the guy who's running the Bolt Action campaign with the map. Was thinking of adding Ostfront as another option if we wanted to do larger battles, but I'll have a hard time convincing the group to do another WW2 game.

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>>54346017
Well its certainly quick and deadly and would handle large battles easily. you could try fooling around with it on your own and see if you like it or not. You could double all ranges for more realism at 28mm, and count a group of ~10 soldiers as a single base of infantry. BA already groups infantry together in squads iirc so it would be roughly the same.

>>54346087
Seems about right.

>>54345696
Can I get a link to the Ho-I tds?

>>54345696
>come pre-painted and mostly assembled)

Is the paintjob kind of iffy, or is that what the camo-pattern really looked like

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>>54346195
>>54346253
The paintjobs are fine - the lower 2 tanks are airfix and painted by us, but the rest of the tanks are the aliexpress paintjobs. Probably would just need some weathering.

There are close-ups on the site:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-72-Assembly-Mini-Tank-Model-Toy-Cars-World-War-II-German-Military-Scene-Ornaments-World/32751702778.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10068_10304_10136_10137_10060_10302_10155_10062_437_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051_10171_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_519_10111_10112_10113_10114_10182_10078_10079_10073_10123_10189_142-10102%2Csearchweb201603_16%2CppcSwitch_2&btsid=6a91ecca-6d88-47c6-bc15-fcf31c4510f7&algo_expid=d13c6799-2076-44c9-86db-c54360a047ce-0&algo_pvid=d13c6799-2076-44c9-86db-c54360a047ce

>>54343997
>>54345652

What prevents you from doing a "shitty" job to pass the time while looking for a "good" one?

Do you have medical issues preventing you from some kinds of work? In that case never mind. I just find it strange that people actually manage to be unemployed if they don't want to be without a job.
Good luck to you anyway.

>>54346195
>>54346253
Ah They are also Ho-Ni rather than Ho-I
There's also Chi-Has and Type 4 Chi-to's as well on that site.

Thanks to a /hwg/ regular for showing me this site!

>>54346301
For their price of less than $5 they look really good.

>>54346341
>he doesn't suck cock to pay for his plastic crack

>>54347938
Thats certainly an option

>>54346341
Buddy I'm unemployed as of YESTERDAY. And it's the weekend. Haven't exactly had a chance to get a new one.

>>54343224

Never knew there was a krumlauf adapter for the ak47

Couple of questions regarding miniatures between companies. Everything will regard 28mm.

With Napoleonics, Are there any difference in quality between Victrix and Perry Miniatures?

And speaking of Victrix, are their Ancients period models have a good standard? Are there better alternatives?

Wargames factory, german infantry or soviet platoon, are they interchangable or able to field alongside Warlord games WWII miniatures? Or are there too many difference in quality?

And finally, I haven't painted metal for a very long time, What should I expect compared to painting plastic?

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>>54347982
No bwana, that is the notorious banana gun, scourge of the white man!
Seriously though it's a shame to have that on a nice mini

>>54348316

I believe the wargames figure are a little taller and skinnier than warlord, but it might be acceptable to you. Here's a side-by-side comparrison:
https://m.imgur.com/a/zuNMR

>>54348414
>https://m.imgur.com/a/zuNMR

Thanks. So the alternative is to go for wargames as squads and use some of the warlords for the mortar squad, MMG etc etc.

Sidenote, do you have any other comparisons between companies? Any period really will do.

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It's extremely rare to find previously undiscovered scans of a Strategy & Tactics magazine complete with hex and chits, but some awesome anon three doors up has scored two!

S&T 121 - North German Plain
Main article & Game - Ye Old Fulda Gap Fight for like the hundredth time
Secondary articles - Davout, the war in Mozambique
http://www.mediafire.com/file/okcines2ojs0czv/S%26T+117+-+North+German+Plain.pdf

S&T 201 - Crimean War Battles
Main article & Game - Crimea War battles specifically Tchernaya River and the Alma
Secondary articles - 1813 Campaign, RCW in Ukraine, the Mauryans
http://www.mediafire.com/file/i8d9einsimlinpw/S%26T+201+-+Crimean+War+Battles.pdf

>>54346341
Some areas don't have jobs fucking everywhere. Welcome to 2017.

>>54348316
Victrix miniatures are very good and in my opinion among the best ancient miniatures.

>>54348461

Looking back at it, the difference in base hights exacerbates the hight difference a little. Sorry anon, I don't have any other comparisons. Hopefully other anons can help.

>>54348461
For heavy weapons, get the Plastic Soldier Company box - it has Maxims, PTRDs, mortars, everything you want in plastic. Bit stiff, but you can add bits from the Warlord set to make them look a lot better.

>>54343997
The rear of the pit should be open as opposed to closed with earth. That way tank can reverse out of there when needed. Thats how it was done generally anway.

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>>54348316
>Wargames factory, german infantry or soviet platoon, are they interchangable or able to field alongside Warlord games WWII miniatures?

They mix fairly. But i recommend to use heads/weapons from one company only. Their style is to different if you mix them in the same squad. (Besides, Wargame Factory heads are extremely plain and its hard to paint them well due to the lack of detail) Pic related is some converted wargames factory germans with warlord parts i did a while ago.

>>54350193
Looking good, will steal. Is it grenadier arms and heads or some fallschirmsjägers as well?

>>54350119

>Soviet tank of Glorious Red Army
>Reversing

Is uranium mines for you, tovarisch.

Anyone know of a wargame that can be used for a 1930's Spanish Civil War-ish setting and has a high degree of customizability? I'm planning on running a game with players as revolutionaries in a fantasy Spain, mighy be fun to have them be commanders of their own little cliques and units in larger battles instead of having it happen "off screen."

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Would 'No End in Sight' work for WW1? What modifications would you suggest?

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>>54351593
Well any appropriate WW2 set would do. Check out TFL's Chain of Command and the Espana expansion for inspiration. It could overlap nicely with an RPG campaign. They're in the WW2/Games folder.

>>54351526

But how can one charge the fascist pigs if the glorious t-34 is stuck with dirt all around?

>>54351672
Comrade you will be then leaving of tank to charge Fascist with glorious bare fist

>>54351649
Use FiveCore Company Commander or another one of the larger scale Nordic Weasel games instead.

>>54351121
Exactly. Its a mix from both sets.

>>54320205
What system are you using for this? I'd like to do some WWII skirmish stuff with very small model counts as well.

>>54320205
>>54353130
Couldn't you use a rpg-wargame transitional set of rules? I know that they're are plenty ww2 simulationist role playing games out they're but you could go more generic. I know I've used Friday Night Firefight (generic 'realism' shooting rpg, pretty good for how simple it is really) for plenty of different scenarios. Cowboys, a brief ww1 game, I even fudged it for the napoleonic wars.

>>54353130
I picked up "five men at kursk" as well as "five core".

As much as i understand it so far, these rules allow skirmishes as well as some light rpg elements and campaign play. I have yet to read them completely though, i just got them 2 days ago from the wargame vault sale.

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Weird question, and one I thought I would prevent myself from developing the obsessiveness to ask, but does anyone know what the deal is with this kind of scrunchie-like area between the boots and trousers, like on the leftmost guy in this picture?

Is it a sock, like you'd find on a thick modern sock? Is it a type of gaiter/puttee? Or is it the inside of the trousers folded up?

I can't find any results for it, or drawings/plates, I've only seen it on miniatures, and I googled boots, trousers, gaiters, lots of things. Rather vexing.

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>>54354597
Its some kind of gaiter.

Pic related

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>>54354597
another pic

>>54354670
>>54354687
He asked about the guy on the left.

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>>54354597

The only thing I could find is that they must be thick sock turndowns like #6 has

>>54354597
He might just have the bottoms of his trousers tucked into his socks. That's what I do when I go hiking in rainy/muddy conditions.

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>>54354751

Although this tickled me

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>>54354751
>>54354597

Socks most likely

>>54354767
>Yes, Mr. Bond, are you impressed with our latest invention? The World's Fuzziest Slippers. There is no chance your government will stand against them...

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>>54354670
I did find details about that gaiter model ("Gamaschen"), but I'm fairly confident it's not the same thing, because the crease lines from wearing those gaiters, which are normally flat, go horizontally, whereas the things I've been looking at have vertical lines all around the thing in a regular pattern. They also go up the shin further than that and have prominent straps. I have a model which is clearly wearing those type in my collection and it's sufficiently different from the ones I'm having trouble with that I can be fairly sure it's not them.

>>54354761
I haven't seen german trousers with that kind of elastic bottom, so I'm leaning towards the sock theory.

I did find this pic just a minute ago, it supports the idea that they're socks, and if that's the case then that's my main worry out of the way because I was worried they were a late-war convention and/or not suitable for winter.

>>54354889
>>54354775
>>54354767
>>54354761
>>54354751
>>54354687
>>54354670
>>54354597
I think we're all ignoring the obvious truth here
Advanced Nazi Leg Warmers

Thanks for all the answers to my sock question. I did find a result describing the practice of folding the socks over the ankle boots instead of gaiters, so those of you who said socks give yourselves a pat on the back.

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So, I had my first ever wargaming experience in the form of Five Men in Normandy. It was fun. After first few turns when the shooting began, shit got pretty fast. It was a 5v5 german infantry vs US paratroopers in city ruins. 3 K98, 2 MP40 vs 3 M1 and 2 Thompson soldiers.

In the action only 1 german died, while from US 1 bled out, 1 got rushed and wacked to death, 1 deserted and 2 got shot. The displacement rule is very interesting too.

Now that I'm easing my so into wargaming looks like I have a long time partner for playing so I can finally justify spending money on this.

A question though, where do you guys play? We played on a 65x50cm table and it's pretty small. Was thinking of the kitchen table but it's used as morning storage. Is getting a big board to put over the small table for game time a sound idea?

>>54355781
If you're anywhere near a local game store, find out if some of them have tables suited for wargaming.

Big board on a small table is risky because if someone loses track or forgets and leans against the edge you've now catapulted all your wargaming stuff out the window and killed your neighbor's dog with a model resin tank.

>>54355841
I'm nowhere near a game store sadly. I was thinking of securing the board with clamps or something. Also the small table is small in every sense, we played while sitting armchair general style.

>>54355897
If the table is very small you might consider getting a mat. That way you can roll it out onto any surface and even play on the floor if you want.

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>>54356293
forgot pic

>>54355781
6x4 is what most rules and people go for, you can pretty much play every wargame on a 6x4 table.

I've got some petty 'problem' I'd like advice on. I've the opportunity to get 4 flames of war infantry platoons for £14.00, but, I'm not sure if I even want them. I'd use them for skirmish games rather than whatever they are supposed to be used for.

Do I jump on a good deal or avoid the regret of having to look at an unpainted pile of miniatures (which might never get finished).

Oh woe is me.

>>54357226
Might as well get them if there so cheap

>>54357226
Is that full platoons as in 30+ figures?

And are they all for the same army?

>>54353507
>>54354259
I'll look into all these, thanks anons

/tg/ best board

>>54359153
>/tg/ best board
/sp/ is pretty great but yeah, you fat fuckin nerds are cool

>>54359297
I have a feeling that at some point we did a poll, and much like finding out that the age range is surprisingly young for what everyone expected, we're also mostly normal, healthy (in weight terms at least) people.

>>54359440
yeah but if imagine you all as fat nerds i dont feel so bad about being a fat nerd
youre treading on my dreams preston

>>54359440
It's probably like on dating sites everyone is 6ft+

>>54318630
Make muskets fire faster or slower, make cannons have a chance of exploding, shield cavalry, facilitate communications, summon The Rifles, make muddy ground, detonate grenades, Steal Banner, counter magic...

And mages HAVE to have a chance of exploding. They have to!

>>54357226
Do it. I got a Vietnam Airmobile Platoon recently for 5GBP (and I got a mortar blister and a crashed Huey as a gift along with it), even tho I have two finished platoons in 1:72, because meh, why not. Bolt Action or Battlegroup works nicely in 15mm, and vehicles from PSC are cheap.

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Gotta finish basing the arty and make the tank more worn looking, but I'm pleased with the result.

>>54363024
Grab an enamel wash from AK or Mig, and thank me later.

>>54355781
Buy a table? Ikea do a pretty good 2'x4' tabletop for £notverymuch, with an assortment of leg options, some easily removable for storage. Two of those'll give you a big square table, three'll give you the "wargaming standard" of 6'x4', but even one's a pretty good playing area.

Lots of other places do folding tables.

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>>54348316

Victrix napoleonics are much lower quality than Perry miniatures, basically for 28mm plastic Nappys
>Perry>Warlord>Victrix

Victrix Ancients, however, are all good except for their oldest Hoplite sets (Athenian, Spartan, "Mercenary", the unarmoured ones are fine and Thebans are ok but not great). Each Victrix set is a little better-sculpted and manufactured than the last, and they've been focusing on Ancients for a while, so some of the best sets they make are Ancients, and some of their Ancients sets are the best available in plastic (many are the only in plastic re: all the cavalry and soon elephants)

What's a good ruleset for 19th century naval battles?

>>54364215
Which part of that century, anon? You got Napoleonic, American Civil War, Ironclads and ending with the Pre-Dreadnought era, so that's a lot of different stuff.

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Been working on some river sections for my board. Have a foot bridge and just finished a tank ford. Just 7 more to go.

>>54364491
Slipped my mind, sorry, It'd be mid-1800s, so around the American Civil War/Ironclad period.

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>>54364627

Renedra bridge. Looked too small and rickety for vehicles so I ended up making the ford.

>>54364679
There are heaps of titles covering naval wargaming in the ACW, it's a really popular little genre. We have a few titles in our folder. You might like to ask the Naval Wargaming General too: >>54282840
There's a vidya called Rule The Waves that could interest you too (again, refer to /nwg/)

>>54355781
>Is getting a big board to put over the small table for game time a sound idea?

Its certainly an option if you got a place to store it away.
Depending on the game and the scale you are playing you won't need a huge board anyway (looks like 20mm 1/72 on your pic).
My friend has a 2m x 1,60m mdf board, fairly thin and he stores it behind his closet leaned on the wall. That way its out of the way when we aren't playing. Those mdf boards are super cheap too, it did cost like 15€ (and an additional 15 for delivery because it was to big for our cars..)
To play we simply put down a gaming mat on top of the mdf plate and we are good to go.

Btw, welcome to wargaming. Don't be afraid to ask questions in here, while some guys might be strange, most are really helpful.

>>54357226
Buy them. The minis are nice in themselves and you can always place them on ebay if you end up not using them. You might even make some profit that way.

>>54363172
Do you happen to know the name of that table?

I'm about to move soon-ish and could use a proper gaming area in my appartment too.

>>54364693
>>54364627

Great stuff anon. Both the water as well as the tank!

>>54364627
>>54364693
looking nice man good job

>>54364097
>Warlord>Victrix
Now you just proved you know shit.

All dem Warlord Napoleonic hamhanded line infantry, made up by three parts at best, yum.

>>54367824
That would be the LINNMON, £15 for a 120x60cm board. Legs or trestles sold separately - IIRC the cheapest option is LERBERG, at £5 each - you'd need two for a table, but it's easier to manage than the individual legs and stores fairly well.

https://cianty-tabletop.blogspot.co.nz/2013/06/ikea-gaming-table.html seems to like them, and has pics.

I often only want one table out, so that's nice, but I can go up to 8'x6' in my living room without too much trouble if I want a stupidly big game people have to squeeze past, and having it made up of 4'x2' boards means you can do weird stuff like u-shaped tables for convoy escort games down a long, long road.

>>54323478
Literally anything else modern in 15mm? I don't get the question.

>>54323478
Khurasan talibani guys for Afghanistan

>>54370769
>ultramodern Russkies for Cold War conflicts
Yeah, no.

>>54369252
Thanks

>>54370793
>taliban
>cold war

Nani?

>>54372469
>not knowing the Soviets invaded Afghanistan for the first time in the second half of the XXth century

>>54323478
Man this reminds me, how should I go about painting EMR on 28mm miniatures?

>>54372521
The Taliban came after the Soviet invasion you bloody idiot. The Soviets fought various groups that were collectively known as the Mujahideen. The Taliban were created by the Pakistani intelligence service to serve as proxies to rule Afghanistan in the wake of the Soviet withdrawal.

Bloody hell, you really are an idiot.

>>54369904
Sorry, could have explained more. I thought people would have 'got it', must have been autism on my part.
Basically, I meant "who could I use as Ukrainians?"

>>54373256
Being right is no excuse for being angry, even if he tried to smear his ignorance in your face.

He simply understands as much as most of folks that seen first Rambo and then 2003 news report.

Also do you really see a difference between 15mm Massound and 15mm Bin Laden?

>>54373479
Don't you dare compare Massoud to Bin Laden. :^)

>>54373906
I don't. I said it modelling-wise. Massoud was a hero. We used to call guy all the time "Lion of Panjshir" because everyone beatin' rooskies in simply HAD to be a hero when you live in the Eastern Block.

In his case we were right. Long live the Northern Alliance.

>>54374245
Aye, long live the Northern Alliance and may Massoud rest in peace.

Anyone know some good accounts or memoires of ww2? Anything in the archive am i blind?Especially interested in 44-45 western front

>>54374577

Lions of Carentan is what comes to mind. It follows the 6th Fallschirmsjäger regiment.

>>54363024
lovely to see someone else building the french. Also listen to that dude, a wash will see you through

>>54372521
Why the fuck do I always hear yanks saying this shit?

Mujahideen ==//== Taliban

Taliban were a group of Pashtun border people, mostly consistent of refugee communities that formed in Pakistan in the Hindu Kush after the Russian invasion. Many of them were radicalized in Pakistan while attending Madrasas (hence Taliban, meaning student). They were led by Muhammad Omar, a Pashto dude from Kandahar, and invaded Afghanistan while it was really unstable. Their culture consists of a bizarre mutation of wartime trauma, Pashtun tribal code, Islamic fundamentalism, and Pakistani influence.

The Mujahideen for the most part fought against the Taliban, perceiving them as a foreign threat coming out of Pakistan. The Taliban may or may not have been directed and financed by the Pakistani ISI in order to secure smuggling routes and influence in the Khyber pass and Afghanistan as a whole. While the Taliban invaded, there was an ethnic conflict, in which they saw themselves as the true Pashtun people, and many massacres were led against minority groups in the East of Afghanistan.

Now you know what you invaded, bit late, I know.

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>>54373256
As soon as you tell me the visual difference between a Taliban and a Mujahideen, I'll accept your arguments. Till then, go fuck yourself.

>>54375667
>Now you know what you invaded
I'm not American nor Russian, so I didn't really invade anything.

>>54332033
PDF share and /awg/ threads, bro

>>54364627
nice tonk

>>54380888
>being this btfo

Taliban generally wore white in the beginning anyway. Bloody idiots...

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>>54383050
>>54380888

>>54383107
>men doing fights

>>54383149
Does anyone have the image for this? I haven't seen it in a while and it makes me chuckle.

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We have acquired another Strategy & Tactics mag - #155 Anzio. Even better, it's the third and last missing part of their Italian Campaign series. (The previous titles being #146 Sicily and #150 Salerno, and the final one #160 Med War). So now you can play the war in Italy from 1943-45 in intense operational.detail, to the point where there's a chit for the Maori Battalion (for example). The mag also has its usual secondary articles, in this case on Elihu Root (look him up) and the Malayan Emergency.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/rbmhxkr5ghik715/S%26T+155+-+Italian+Campaign+-+Anzio.pdf

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>>54383161
Hot diggety

>>54383290
Thanks mate! Mind if I save it?

>>54383359
Hahahaha Go Right Ahead :)

>>54383161
> tfw someone requests a repost of your OC

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>>54383843
>when they use your OC in the general OP

Has anybody checked out Above the Clouds yet?

>>54384697
To clarify: I am talking about the air mini game by Gavin Tovrea that can be found on wargame vault.

Just noticed it under bestsellers. Looks pretty new and I am always curious on (ww2) air titles.

>>54384697
Seems alright if you like hexes. Somewhat limited amount of aircraft (there is a list of the available aircraft on the WV page in the discussions)
Hard to tell what the mechanics are like when the preview is only a single page of an example aircraft data card.

>>54387180
78th?

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>>54387359
The site doesn't specify a regiment but the battle is the Relief of Ladysmith, and the only Highlanders there were the Gordons (the 92nd). The tartan confirms it too I think.
http://lonelygamers.blogspot.co.nz/2015/02/the-relief-of-ladysmith-2nd-anglo-boer.html

>>54374577
I highly recommend Death Traps since it gives a perspective you rarely see. It's the memoirs of a Maintenance Officer in an Armoured Division from D-Day until the end of the war. Gives a good look into the war-time life of the support personnel, rather than the front line combatants.

On the subject of WW2: I've been collecting and painting WW2 models in 28mm scale for ages, but have never played a game. Recommend me a rule set. I know Bolt Action is popular, but I've also heard it's not very realistic. More like Warhammer with Krauts. Is this true? Are there better rules out there? I have mostly early war western front stuff if that's a factor.

>>54387563
Difficult to say. Rules are subjective. What I like, someone else can dislike.
For my taste prefer Battlegroup, Operation World War II and, for modern, Force on Force. I don't like Bolt Action because is too much gamey.
But I think that there are people that disagree.

>>54383843
It's good OC

>>54382120
As the person who posted that: I was thrown off by the immediately preceding discussion. Usually keep /awg/ and /hwg/ in tabs, and for some reason didn't realise which thread I was in.

>>54383161
Sensibly, I hope.

>>54387563
>Death Traps
ree

Dude was a lying fucker, even when he wasn't being bad at history-slash-current-events.

>>54387930
It may be the most significant accomplishment I will ever have in life.

>>54387800
I'm looking for something that is at least somewhat realistic, but also reasonably fast paced. My concern with Bolt Action is that I won't be able to make game-viable armies based on real organizational structures. I don't want to have to spam Tigers because that's the most efficient use of the rules.

>>54387980
>My concern with Bolt Action is that I won't be able to make game-viable armies based on real organizational structures.
Protip: you can.

>>54388102
Depending on much of a beardy hit your opposition is.

>>54387563
Battlegroup is pretty popular but it works best with smaller scales.
You could check out 5 men at normandy in the OP and if you like it upgrade it to 5 men at kursk.
These are pretty solid skirmish-rulesets

>>54387980
> I don't want to have to spam Tigers because that's the most efficient use of the rules.

Don't worry, its a terrible idea to do that.
More than one tank in each army will be rare anyway.

You can organize your force as close as you want to the real thing and you can still win games with that.
You will only loose (not necessarily though) against your typical WAAC-tournament guys. But i wouldn't recommend to play with these people anyway if you don't want to play really competitive.

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>>54388164
*git.

>>54387980
I play 2 IS-2's and I get beat every time.

>>54388287
I didn't mean tigers specifically, just that I was worried about having to load up on certain units in order to be able to win.

I'm not interested in playing in tournaments, but my usual opponent for wargaming is a military historian. He's not too beardy, but I know a blatant disregard for history will disrupt his enjoyment of the game, and we've been friends since elementary school so I'd rather not antagonize him at the games table.

>>54388690
>but I know a blatant disregard for history will disrupt his enjoyment of the game

So you both should have fun with historically (at least semi-) correct lists. Bolt Action can provide that if both players are like-minded in that regard.

>>54388781
I'll definitely look into bolt action then.

>>54388690
The main ahistoric thing with Bolt Action is you can have way too many special weapons and such fighting with your single reinforced infantry platoon. A medic, sniper team, sniper team, flamethrower, mortar, MG, AT-rifle, carriage-mounted AT gun, gun-howitzer, armored car, AND tank or self-propelled gun can all join your 2-5 infantry squads and officer, if you spend the points on all of them. It's not too realistic, but it makes for a more exciting game. You can always just assume that your game is at the most pivotal part of a large battle, so the company's assigned most of its support elements there.

>>54388915
You are right but if both players agree to play a more "historical" focused game the number of support can be as low as they want.

Its entirely up to the player what they field, and if you don't play against "random" people somewhere at a club or even tournament everything can be balanced if you talk with your opponent before the game.

>>54318630

>>54362539 and
>>54318756
Are what I'd go with. Basically do a series of schools of magic that can do all sorts of buffs or whatever

Examples:
Telepathy/Scrying: grant the unit a reactionary action of some variety after the enemy move but before shooting, or reroll a failed order receipt or something
Geomancy: Entrench unit or Roughen ground
Biomancy: increase a unit's speed or mêlée strength or resistance to damage
Alchemy: increase range/hitting power of musketry

And, of course pyromancy: make the wizard into an artillery battery with the mobility of light infantry, but without his supporting troops, because no musketeer or horse wants to be anywhere near that crazy bastard. Make them powerful but fragile.

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>>54393452
Fluff justification - amplifying energy, matter, etc is easy. Creating it is hard as dicks. Hence, little or no pyromancy.

This suggest cryomancy is far more common, since it's just deamplifying energy.

>>54393452
>>54396447
You lads come and have this conversation over on /awg/, the thread could use some bumping.

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>finally get gf
>can't stop spending money on her
>she protests but I still buy her stuff
>going out for lunch again
>my hobby money is gone

WHAT HAVE I DONE

>>54399013
You must be one of those young wargamers. You really reach peak grognard once you have an ex-wife.

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>>54368242

I don't own any napoleonics, but from what I've seen online the warlords are sculpted to a much higher quality but with far fewer options (most warlord kits outside BA tend to be half-assed on sprue contents and options), the victrix napoleonics all have this kind of caricaturish quality to them. They are far cheaper than warlord or perry, basically I would never advise anyone to buy warlord nappies unless its a unit-type that nobody else makes because they are a worst of both worlds compromise, being more expensive than victrix and worse-sculpted than perry. This does not disprove my statement that warlord's are sculpted better than victrix napoleonics.

A lot of people in the historicals world actually prefer fewer customization options and more static poses for "toy soldier" eras, because they didn't grow up building GW multipart kits so they find assembly "fiddly" and it's marginally easier to production-line paint. They generally only want to see marching/shooting and maybe a skirmish pose, which is exactly what Perry offers.

I have several victrix ancients sets and no complaints about them except some of the Greek sets re-use components from earlier sets which is kind of lame. I still intend to get about 60% of my ancients figures from them.

tl;dr: if you want to save money, victrix, if you want best sculpt, perry (not even hugely more expensive and really a no-brainer IMO) if you want a unit-type that only warlord produces, go warlord.

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>>54399169

for comparison some even more poorly-painted warlord brits

I assume part of the difference between Victrix's first 3 hoplite sets+napoleonics is that at some point they switched from traditional to 3D sculpting. I normally prefer traditional, but it is more dependent on talent.

Is there any place one can see Pendraken ranges they do not have photos of on their site?

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>>54387563
>I highly recommend Death Traps
Please don't? That's where all the shity Sherman myths come from. It's a bad book, pls no read.

>>54387563
> it gives a perspective you rarely see.
That being the perspective of someone who is wrong about everything.

>>54402130
>That's where all the shity Sherman myths come from
>From someone who was a frontline Sherman maintenance officer
Personally I would trust the word of someone who was there and worked on the tanks, dealt with the crews (and crew deaths).
Just looking at the numbers you can see why the Sherman were easily popped by the large guns of the Wehrmacht. Long barrel 75s and 88s were extremely effective at taking out medium tanks - and that's exactly what the Sherman was. Its high profile, average front armor and vulnerable ammunition storage (pre the wet design) earned it the nicknames like ronson and tommy cooker by the people who were there. Those nicknames weren't something people decided on after the war - they were originated by the people who were there.
It's not really a myth if everyone who was in the conflict confirms it. You see Shermans with logs and sandbags all over them for a very good reason - Crews didn't trust the armor against large German guns. No one wants to die like they saw their friends did, so they up armored in any way they could.

>>54402570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNjp_4jY8pY
Stop being so stupid, it's embarrassing for all of us.

>>54402657
I have actually seen this before. So you trust a guy who works on World of Tanks over someone who was actually there?

>>54402657
>General says "Its a waste of a tank to have it fight another tank"
only if your tank is shitty and going to get blown up before blowing up the enemy tank.

>>54402745
Not him, but I trust someone who's done the research and got the documents over someone obviously full of shit (for example, what would general Patton have to do with getting the M26 into action?)

>>54402657
Re-watching this he doesn't "dispel" anything about 88s and long 75s wrecking Shermans, because there is no myth to dispel. The guns were made to annihilate medium tanks, and thats what they did.
Sherman was essentially a mid war medium tank design - similar to a T-34 (although the T-34 being an earlier design that was ahead of its time). Both were technically outclassed by later German designs like the Tiger and Panther, but both had enough numbers and overwhelming support from infantry and artillery that it didn't really matter in the end.

>>54399013
>get gf
>get money enough for miniatures
>gf is slightly geeky, but not interested in miniatures
>buy miniatures
>piles of half painted Space Marines everywhere
>tumbleweeds of plastic historical dudes
>cat coughing up 3mm T-55s
>beg girlfriend to stop me
>"but I want you to be happy"

could be worse.

>>54402570
He saw a lot of disabled tanks because his job was all about disabled tanks.

And Ronson is an after the war myth, as the Ronson ad only ran after the war.

Hey lads what issues of wargamers notes quarterly are available?

Seeking scans of Moves, Wargamer 2, C3i, and Fire & Movement magazines.

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>>54404202
Moves #1-60 here
https://mega.nz/#F!mllFHDJI!WX6BjU6jgyCVIHDRoHVbBw
For those unfamiliar with it, Moves was like SPI's "theoretical" magazine compared to their "practical" Strategy and Tactics one. Moves contains analysis of their games and wargaming formula; it's pretty dry on its own but if you're interested in a specific SPI game or hex & counter in general, you'll get a lot of insight.

>>54402927
>by later German designs like the Tiger

The Tiger was technically a pre-war design and it entered Service in 42.

>>54404991
Also, didn't have that much thicker frontal armor, effectively, than the Sherman.

>>54405013
Which Sherman though?

http://www.greatwargamingsurvey.com

I remember this being posted here last year, so lets participate again i guess?

Taking part will give you a 5GBP coupon for Karawansaray Publishing.

>>54405052
Thanks man!

>>54405027
I seem to recall that going for most shermans (aside from Jumbos and the ones with obvious extra armor welded on). Bit low on good sources right now, though. But the change between early armor with bulges for driver and hull machine gunner, and later single piece front armor, was not to increase armor thickness as much as to reduce complexity in building them (and remove the obvious weakpoints of flat armor right in front of the important parts, the soldiers). It was made thicker, but mostly to compensate for not being as sloped as previously.

>>54399013
Girlfriends are too expensive in this day and age.

>>54399013
>>she protests

You should listen to her and buy more miniatures until she complains. THen gift her something again.

>>54387563
>>54402570
> Wehraboos

Daily reminder; personal anecdotes are virtually meaningless versus actual statistics and information that can be validated by historical study

>>54402570
Did they use logs on the European theater as well? I can only recall USMC tanks with such protection.

Also, every tanker wanted extra protection against enemy fire.

>>54405454
Is this pasta? It seems like pasta.

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>>54399013
>tfw no gf mustard race with hobby money

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>>54405454
Don't react to baitypasta, I repear, don't react to baitypasta.

>>54405397
You should always carry a log. More than one though is excessive.

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>>54405503
This particular installment has just been posted six times in ten minutes, although apparently we weren't important enough to merit the accompanying picture.

>>54399013
>gf loves /tg/ stuff
>tricking her into playtesting WW2 ruleset I'm writing because I'm butthurt over V4 FOW

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I was thinking of adding propaganda posters to my 1/72 ww2 destroyed city terrain but turns out if I make a poster 1,5x1cm it becomes you pixelated you can't see shit. What kind of nazi propaganda poster would look realistic in bigger than human size?

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Fun fact: if you press the little triangle next to the post number you can report said post. Or hide it, or do an image search.

Not as many people know that as you might think.

>>54405723
Any of them, printed with a decent photo printer.

>>54405825
>>54405723
Well never mind, turns out resizing in GIMP is shit, resized it in Word, quality is perfect. I'll post a picture of the wall bit later when I finish painting the rocks and apply the posters.

>>54405882
How did you do the resizing in gimp? Scale image normally works well enough unless you pick no interpolation or something dumb.

>>54405723
>but turns out if I make a poster 1,5x1cm it becomes you pixelated
>>54405882
>resizing in GIMP is shit
Sounds more like you resized the actual pixels of the image instead of changing the DPI.

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>>54406175
Tried factory settings, cubic interpolation.

Either way, here's my first ever piece of wargaming terrain (which isn't made of lego). How did I do?

>>54402927
>Panther
A shit tank. The armour mass of a heavy with the engine of a medium and somehow the armour protection of a medium, a turret that took approximately a week to rotate (unless you were on a slope, in which case check back next year), a tank so filled with superior german engineering that the first commanders literally said "fuck off, my undersupplied and overstretched unit that desperately needs more tanks doesn't want these tanks, take them back to the factory and build something that fucking works."

I mean, at least it wasn't a tiger 2.

>>54403672
Only three issues out so far. They're pretty neat.

>>54406455
So the first ones were bad, thus the whole series was bad.

Iron strong logic there.

>>54406455
The Panther had a great hp/t ratio though, it could turn on the spot, had a great gun and its protection (frontal) was great as well.

Its nowhere near as bad as you make it sound. It wasn't perfect, but it was the best tank the germans built by far. Its cheap price only adds to that.

Even the Tiger didn't have bad mobility..

TMP is still locked. It's kind of hilarious. Bill fucked off over a fortnight ago, locked the site except for paying members, and said "lol be back in two weeks" because people were getting annoyed at his shitty moderation. I think he's afraid to start it back up, honestly.

>>54406620
Yeah if it was a panther vs an m4 in a vacuum I'd take the panther. If I was a general though I'd want the m4's. Having more numbers gives you more tactical options and wars aren't won on 1v1 engagements.

>>54406680
>in a vacuum
Cunning. Panther can't burn in a vacuum.

>>54406659
Billy the Trout is a weird dude. He scares me, but TMP is for some reason the greatest hub for wargaming.

>>54406991
>Armandposting

>>54407007
glad you liked it my friend

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>>54406991
It's only great as in fat, bloated even.

>>54406680
If you consider Germany's rather unique situation towards the end of the war, the Panther (and to an extent the heavier stuff) was the only solution.

They had production capacity, but they lacked fuel and experienced men.
Imagine them building 3+ lighter tanks similar to an M4 or T-34 for each Panther+ they built. More tanks = more crews and more fuels necessary to operate them.
More lighter tanks also means higher losses of fuel and crews.

In the end it would have created a similar situation as the Luftwaffe was in towards the end of the war. Literally thousands of modern fighter planes on the ground, but nobody to operate them (skillfully) and no fuel either, so going for tanks that actually had a chance to face a bigger number of enemy tanks while also protecting their crews the best they could was a pretty sane decision, even if it had resulted in things like the Jagdtiger.

>>54406620
>best tank the germans built by far
Excuse me, that was Panzer III, mostly because it lead to StuG.

>>54408103
>that was Panzer III
Obsolete by 43 though.

The Stug was not a tank and while it was a good vehicle to give the AT detachments some mobility, it had big difficulties against the heavier enemy tanks and the chassis was to weak to carry the Panthers longer 7,5 cm the Jagdpanzer 4 could carry.

>>54408201
Did the Allies have any tanks that actually required a 7.5cm to kill before the last months of 45 though?

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>>54408201
None of this leads anywhere. Wehraboos will be wehraboos.

>>54408304
The Jumbo? Maybe the Matilda or the Churchill too, I'm not entirely sure, it's all just guessing.

>>54407148
that shot is form the town where I was born.

don't go there

>>54408304
It was the Soviets which had IS and KV tanks in large-ish numbers and the 7,5cm L/48 struggled against those.

>>54408329
Pretty sure some of the mid/late Churchills would have been a tough nut for a Stug. Not that the brits were actually important.

The war was fought and decided on the eastern front, and the soviet armor made 8,8cm and larger Paks necessary to penetrate them at big ranges. And thats the reason why the Stug was not "the best", simply because it couldn't carry the needed guns towards the end of the war.

I'm not saying that the Stug was a mistake. It was certainly a good vehicle and born from the necessity of having mobile AT guns. But a gun that is good in 43 will only be good for so long.. and if the chassis can't carry heavier stuff then its time comes some day.
(they should have used the Pz3 chassis for AA-tanks and use the Pz4 chassis for Jp4 instead in combination with Jagdpanzer 38 to give the infantry divisions their mobile At. not that this would have made any strategic differences, but it would have been more logical).

>>54409175
Oh, so you're the kind of folk who thinks Soviets won the war singehandedly.

Sorry.

>>54409257
American steel, british intelligence, and russian blood, as the saying goes.

>>54409257
I never said that, but over 60% of the german forces commited to the east speaks a certain language.

(I'm well aware that the soviets relied heavily on L&L for pretty much everything, but that didn't stop them from building large numbers of heavy tanks which the western allies never had).

>>54409340
Like 90% of German casualties happened on the eastern front.

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>>54403478
>the Ronson ad only ran after the war.
that is a myth. The ronson ad ran well before the war.

At least do a tiny bit of research before spouting these opinions

>>54405393
>Dont trust people who were actually there
There is a saying "There are three kinds of lies; Lies, damned Lies and statistics"

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>>54403478
>>54409596
>buy war bonds because our tank isn't great

>>54409638
>advertising something that isn't even for sale
So what they're just bragging?