So which faction has the best hope of stopping the Tyranids?

Last time I checked, probably either chaos or the Necrons. Necrons for obvious reasons, no biomass, nothing for the Tyranids to snack on properly. Chaos can summon demons, and since they're made out of emotions rather than meat, Tyranids just explode when they eat them.

The T'au conquered a forge world specialised in making anti-tyranid torpedoes, the only one of its kind. The remaining stock of torpedoes in the Imperium are priceless since they lost the ability to produce them.

>>54292649
Where's this from?

Necrons.

Not the omnicidal maniacs, and not the imperialists. It'll be one of them crazy old coot dynastic leaders who wakes up one day outraged that the bugs are nomming on some tiny far off holding, and then stomps the shit out of them.

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>>54292603
>Chaos can summon demons, and since they're made out of emotions rather than meat, Tyranids just explode when they eat them.
Hahahahaha WoW there buddy, [Citation Needed] for that Headcannon.

>>54292847
They could do it now if they could be made to give a shit.

I'm sure they have a carbon decaying super weapon in their back shed somewhere but are to lazy to get off of their porch so just spray the pesky kids with a gauss hose.

>>54292603

I'm pretty sure Chaos has no understanding of the Tyranids or the Hivemind whatsoever. It's too alien and inhuman.

>>54293008
A single bloodthirster just cucked Leviathan.

It's not that they don't know, they just don't care.

>>54292924
Like I said, last time I checked. I could be completely wrong about it, but I swear I read somewhere that Tyranids and Daemons don't mix well. Might have been someone else's /tg/ headcanon for all I know.

>>54293030
Only because Khorne found it funny. Its like letting the SW beat Magnus. Everyone forgets Khorne has a sense of humour, albeit a brutal one.

>>54293201
Now is his sense of humor more brutal than Gork and Morks?

>>54292786
His mind.

>>54293250
They'd probably get along and tell NEEEERRRRRRD at Tzeench

>>54292649
>T'au
faggot detected, nice fanfiction

>>54292603
Tyranids can canonically consume living metal, but gauss flayers are kind of a trump card considering they completely destroy matter

Tyranids do not explode when they eat daemons and can eat daemons (at least their fleshy physical forms) but rather the whole limitlessness of chaos more or less matches Tyranid limitlessness

>>54293074
They don't mix well for the Daemons. There was a story in the 7th ed Tyranid codex about a Daemon army led by four greater daemons which eventually faded out because the only thing on the battlefield other than them was Tyranids, meaning there were no souls to sustain them, nor emotions to fuel the gods

>>54292578
the tyranids :^)

>>54292924
Shadowbrink, you moron. Tyranids who ate daemons were ripped apart and rotten from the inside out leading their guts to explode as the daemon flesh burst out.

>>54293714
>Tyranids can canonically consume living metal,

That's a lie. There is no case of them eating living metal in the canon. In fact, eating living metal is a bad idea like how a tribe of Kroot found out.

>Tyranids do not explode when they eat daemons and can eat daemons (at least their fleshy physical forms)

False. In Shadowbrink, Tyranids that ate daemons exploded and died.

I am screen saving this as an example of Tyranidfags lying.

>>54292578
The Necrons fully united are probably the only ones who have even a slight chance. Maybe Orks if they reached Krork levels. Everyone else would be completely fucked, or beyond the tyranids notice. Chaos daemons at a certain point would just fuck off back to the warp like they did every other time things stopped being fun in the mortal realms, and tyranids rarely have the opportunity to go after them because daemons don't really hang around on biomass rich worlds for prolonged periods of time. Chaos mortals, on the other hand, get nommed to a man

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>>54296236
Nope, daemons aren't going anywhere. The lore says that the daemons are driven to destroy all life, time, and space in the galaxy. They already have a good start at it by doing this.

>>54296229
More like tyranid falseflagger, even the casual nidfag treats shadowbrink lore like it's their fucking bible. This dude doesn't know shit and is probably trying to start another chaos vs tyranid shitflinger.

>>54296245
>The lore says that the daemons are driven to destroy all life, time, and space in the galaxy
Sauce? Specifically on the daemons being driven to destroy all life and everything in the galaxy.

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>>54296278
The main rulebook.

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>>54292578
We covered this one.

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>>54296236
Slight chance of stopping the Tyranids from consuming all life in the galaxy you mean. Necrons can't be eaten by nids, and gauss weapons make battles between the two a biomass loss for nids. The Silent King wants to reverse biotransference, that's why some Necron Dynasties fight Tyranids to save the other races, it's not kindness or anything like that.

>>54296236
orks wouldn't stop the tyranids - they're too much fun to fight. If the orks found they were about to win, they'd put some tyranids aside and let them re-grow. There's already an ork waaagh that does that.

>>54296280
>>54296309
>chaos gods
>not the daemons like I asked
The galaxy being consumed in warpstorms is not the same

>>54292578
probably the ultramarines or the inquisition/deathwatch

kryptman and calgar get work done against bugs, even if it's always written as horrifically phyrric

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>>54296386
The Orks would loot the big ones and kill off the rest. Once severed from the hivemind, carnifexes and the like are just large unruly beasts, but Orks have looted even the Avatar of Khaine before.

>>54293250
Da real kwestion iz iz it more kunnin?

>>54292578
Everyone actually - Tyranids are crap in space combat, even the orks can stop hive ship before it can even reach any planet (if they want to do it)

Really all you need to do is pound there hive fleets while they are still in space, that way everyone from imperium to tau can nuke them our of existence.

>>54296435
Daemons are the shards of the Chaos Gods and exist only fulfil the Chaos Gods bidding, you dumbass.

And who is directing these Warpstorms and causing them? Chaos.

>>54296280
>If the Emperor fails
>If
Soooo not a certainty then.

>>54296656
No the point. My god people can't be this dumb on purpose. The point that the forces of Chaos have this as their ultimate goal.

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>>54292578
a race whose bodies cant be assimilated for biomass, whose weapons are so through they leave nothing to recycle, have a navy powerful enough to bottleneck incoming tyranids, and are as numerous or unconcerned with losses as the tyranids are

>>54296672
Seems counter productive with all life extinguished what is going to fuel them, you'd think they would be working to keep the status quo as the current state of the galaxy supplies them with plenty of negative emotions.

>>54296686
Time doesn't exist in the Warp neither will it exist in the galaxy once it has been consumed. The are effectively immortal and eternal. Also the Warp links to other galaxies and universes. Other planes of existence that will feed them still.

The main thing is that Tyranids are one mind, one entity, all working to one goal. Chaos can unite but those alliances never last long. Necrons uniting fully isn't even a sure thing because not everyone shares the Silent Kings vision. If those factions were able to unite themselves and be at full strength then maybe they'd stand a chance against the Main fleet of Nids.


Also
>all this chaos wank
>chaos only attacks when the main powers of the galaxy are weakened or distracted
>still needed to corrupt fully half the space marines and ambush a third of the loyalists in the opening stages of the Heresy to have a chance, still lost
>being pushed back by the indominus crusade currently
>has never actually triumphed over the material realm despite all their supposed power

Shoo shoo chaosfags, nothing Chaos has actually done makes them out to be as powerful and unstoppable as you circlejerkers imply.

>>54296386
Being able to contain the Tyranids would definitely count as stopping them.

>>54296280
You keep repeating the same shit using the same quote that says nothing of what you think it says.
For crying out loud, get it thru your thick skull, Chaos gods are entirely the creation of living beings and nothing more desires taken shape. They will only conquer the places that support them, nothing more.

>>54292578
Necrons, most their planets lack any real biomass, sure the nids can take dirt, air, water and minerals, but its several billion tonnes less than theyd get from other planets. On top of that necrons are very durable and have weapons that can atomise matter

Chaos as well since GW writes chaos as "unstoppable evil"

>>54292786
headcannon
>>54292603
>Chaos can summon demons, and since they're made out of emotions rather than meat, Tyranids just explode when they eat them.
Bahahahaa what, in shadowbrink the daemons just fade away upon death, nothing for the nids to eat at all, and since tyranids have no real emotions and no real ambitions or seductions, combined with SITW chaos struggles to stay strongly manifest around them

>>54296229
>False. In Shadowbrink, Tyranids that ate daemons exploded and died
Please screenshot this, I don't remember this in the slightest
>>54293714
>Tyranids can canonically consume living metal,
They can consume metal, if they melted down and made the living metal "inert" I see no reason they couldn't, however I don't recall any canon examples of this

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>>54292786
>>54292649
>>54293664
>>54293664
>>54297697
Halfus the Forgeworld was named Halfus. And it wasn't torpedos. It was a class of ships that were incredibly resistant to Tyranids weaponry.

Source is "The Patient Hunter" and "Shield of Baal " Devourer". Once again, Tyranidfags reveal themselves that they suck at the lore.

>>54297661
Nice headcanon but re-read the text. All life, space, and time will be gone leaving only Chaos. They do not require life.

>>54297111
Headcanon. Lets beat it with fluff. Picture related.

>>54297697
Look another Tyranidfag liar. Open your 6th ED codex and re-read the battle. The Tyranids swallowed daemon flesh and died as a result.

>combined with SITW chaos struggles to stay strongly manifest around them

Not always. Chaos have been confirmed to have wiped several hive fleets.

>>54297712
>Please screenshot this, I don't remember this in the slightest

I can easily but first you must promise me that you will repent your Tyranidfag ways and exile yourself for week to mediate on your sins.

> if they melted down

Living Metal can turn into a liquid state and reform.

>>54297753
>Look another Tyranidfag liar. Open your 6th ED codex and re-read the battle. The Tyranids swallowed daemon flesh and died as a result
Literally holding the book in my hands reading it now, that doesn't happen, a haruspex swallows some daemons whole, ill repeat that SWALLOWS THEM WHOLE, the daemons than "rebel from inside" bursting out of its gut

>>54297661
Meh, they could grow strong enough to consume the galaxy at large, but eventually fade because they burned through their psychic food supply and eventually the warp would be calmed back down to pre-chaos states.

It's a self-defeating force but a destructive one none the less.

>>54297803
The Haruspex(s) crushes, tears, and melts what it eats. The daemon flesh responded in kind and burst out of the Tyranids.

I like how you try to spin it like what I said was different to what's in the book.

>>54297821
No, they won't fade. To fade there must be time. If I shot you in the stomach and removed you from time. Do you die?

>>54297844
Still waiting for screenshot but if the Haruspex really did swallow them whole then other anon is correct

>>54297753
>All life, space, and time will be gone leaving only Chaos. They do not require life.
>They do not require life

That's literally wrong, its explicitly stated they exist because of mortal desire and emotion. They could get strong enough to consume the galaxy like this says but that will eventually fuck themselves in the ass (not that they care).

Chaos is it's own worst enemy, it's the fundamental nature of the force.

>>54297844
>Their serrated gullets spat forth to snare Daemons and drag them whole into their maws

Sounds like they got swallowed whole to me

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>>54297882
Wrong. The lore doesn't say this. In fact. the lore says they are eternal in the Warp and can never die.

>>54297885
And it says that the daemon flesh burst out of them

>Their serrated gullets spat forth to snare Daemons and drag them whole into their maws, only to find the strange flesh rebelling within them, bursting the biohorrors’ guts open like rotten seed pods.

>>54297957
Eternal is defined as without end or beginning; explain then how Slaneesh was birthed by the Eldar

>>54297957
>And it says that the daemon flesh burst out of them
The "strange flesh" referring to the Daemons themselves, as previously the hivemind is unsure what the daemons are as it doesn't register them as biomass

>>54297967
Slaanesh always existed in the Warp and have brought upon his own birth, The Eldar refer to Slaanesh as the parent-child of the Eldar race and mother of Khaine.

Daemons affiliated with Slaanesh have been active before the Fall. Most famous among them in Be'lakor who predates the Fall by millions of years who was originally an ancient mortal who was elevated to daemonhood by the Four Gods of Chaos.

>>54297968
It's referring to the mulch the daemon must have turned into when they were devoured. Getting grabbed by serrated tentacles, shoved into a maw that would have crushed them, then thrown into a stomach full of super acid tends to not leave a fleshy thing in one piece.

>>54298001
>Be'lakor

Who?

Oh, you mean the guy cucked by lizards, right.

>It's a "person tries to talk about another faction being "superior" despite GW's innate bias when writing while that one guy who has a hard-on for GW's brilliant writing is still around" thread
Why do you people even bother?

For that matter, why are you trying to shill your favorite race onto a setting governed by the writers' hyping the armies that sell the most? Of course Chaos and the Imperium are always going to have the focus, it's just business. Better to accept it now and either live with it or leave than try and defend false points, especially with that zealot running about.

>>54298050
So what's the Final Solution to the Carnac Question?

>>54298049
No, the guy who singlehandily brought low the Plans of the Old Ones in fantasy.

>>54298050
So you are saying that the zealot is right because he has the support of GW?

>>54298086
Yeah, that totally ROCKed

>>54298093
Nah, I just think it's futile to try and argue because he's annoying as hell. hence the
>Still around
part. I dream of a day when people can talk hypotheticals without his annoying, I presume acne-ridden presence lurking in the shadows. Until then I'll stick to talking about Warhammer off of this website.

>>54298112
No, it seemed that you pretty much said that GW was on his side which is an admission of that he is right.

>>54298077
Stop responding to him.

>>54298152
No one's saying he isn't right, we're just saying he's a pleb of the highest degree.

You can now stop referring to yourself in the third person.

>>54298104
Yeah, like how Be'lakor's prophecy led to the Lizardmen civilisation to be destroyed by moon ROCKS!

Was talking about Warhammer on /tg/ ever not annoying, or am I just wearing rose-tinted glasses?

>>54298164
That only works because you assume he's a troll.

But carnac isn't a troll, he's a legitimately insane human being with a lot of time on his hands.

Even if we don't respond to him he'll keep spamming threads.

>>54298182
It literally took you 9 minutes to come up with that. And don't claim you were AFK, we all know you don't do anything but spam /tg/ all day.

SAD!

>>54298176
But you said implied that GW bias is with him ergo he is right

>>54298219
I was in the typing in the Mort thread and the fucking Captcha kept giving me those fade out quizzes. FUUUUUUU

>>54298220
kek have you gone insane Carnac?

I said I know that you're right, but if the government makes it a law that you must eat shit and you do eat it, then congrats you're a law abiding citizen but you've still got shit on your lips.

>>54298245
>have you gone insane Carnac?
He wasn't already?

>>54298245
>I said I know that you're right,

Finally, Glad we established that. Remember things pertaining to quality are subjective.

>>54298273
Remember that you are a pleb.

>>54298245
I cant believe you fell for that obvious samefag. Carnac is literally babies first troll and yet he snags another because he pretended to be someone else for 3 posts. Sad.

>>54298340
Actually, I believe he knew who he was talking to all along.

>>54298196
People take it far to seriously, threads that didn't have been the best ones. Now it's just a reeeeeeeeeeeing match.

I can't wait for smut threads to be back

>>54297753
Oppps I mistook the ship history in "World Engine" with the lore in Devourer. Yeah, it's torpedos

>Gun batteries opened along the Golden Promise’s flanks. Torpedo tubes in the ship’s armoured prow yawned. Crew began shouting firing solutions, plotting out projected movement patterns and void shield capacities.

>‘Fire,’ Korbel whispered. The ship shuddered and torpedoes, loaded as the ship achieved a stable orbit around Perdita, raced forward. Forged on Halfus, half a segmentum away, the torpedoes acted like frag grenades.

>Halfus-pattern torpedoes were notoriously effective against tyranid swarms, originally seeing use on Deathwatch vessels. Since that world’s fall to the Tau Empire, the torpedoes were rare and precious things. The Golden Promise only carried four.

The Tau have claimed the technology to create weapons that BTFO Hive Fleets. The Tau are one more step forward toward their destiny.

>>54298001
God belakor is shit, he was a cool concept ruined by his shit fanbase

>>54292578
As a 'nid player since Rogue Trader, I would have to honestly say that the only faction that has the most likelihood of standing alone against the Hive Fleets would definitely be the Necrons. Now with the Rift present I feel that Chaos, Daemons specifically, are the best chance of handling Hive Fleets. Well unless somebody goes and makes them adapt to eating Daemons without the literal gutbusting...

I also stand by one of my earliest beliefs though. A combined Eldar, Imperial and Tau would be very capable of handling most Tyranid threats, should they pull their respective heads out of their asses.

As for the Orkz, as much as I love these guys I can not honestly bring myself to say that they'd be able to overcome the Hive Fleets either. Tyranids are ultimately one of the only things that they can't loot (The looted Carnifex memes don't count!) or just adapt to. They were specifically engineered to handle themselves against technological threats by turning that tech back on their makers. This is an equally intricate biological threat. I can only see the Orkz fightin' to the point where they go to the last Slugga standing alone and surrounded by a chittering tide. The last Ork on the final unconsumed planet, the last true life in the galaxy extinguished with one final defiant cry: "WAAAGH!"

Could tyranids adapt to eat daemons? Not daemonic flesh, mind you, but their warp energy? We already have the doom of malantai and the neurothropes eating souls or life force or whatever, could the same be applied to daemons? Because they're absolutely fucked if that's the case

>>54301689
Technically that is the whole purpose of the Neurothrope and the Tyranids do have a logical means of utilizing that warp essence, yet nobody has shown them putting 2 and 2 together in lore.