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So fucking tell me. ARE UNDEAD EVIL OR NOT?

>>54283750
>I dunno lore well enough, but you could probably get clothes of +5 [cha skill] from somewhere that isn't Numeria.

I decided to just go with a Cloak of Elvenkind for 2500 gp even though I'm an Alchemist, because I couldn't really find anything else that felt fitting outside of generic stuff.

>>54285123
Generally.

>>54285123
Generally, yes, undead are evil. Intelligent undead can be anything, but are also generally evil due to the process in which they became undead or maintaining their undeadedness.

>>54285123
Why are you bringing this to another thread

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>>54285123
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/unique-monsters/cr-4/vesorianna-hawkran/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/unique-monsters/cr-9/mature-adult-brass-dragon-wyrmskull/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/unique-monsters/cr-10/human-ghost-cleric-9/
All CG undead.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/ectoplasmic-human/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/deathweb/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/mummy/mummified-elephant/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/attic-whisperer/variant-attic-whisperer/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/unique-monsters/cr-2/esme-verisi/
All N undead.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/burning-child/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/unique-monsters/cr-10/myrianna/
All CN undead.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/ghost
>Although ghosts can be any alignment, the majority cling to the living world out of a powerful sense of rage and hatred, and as a result are chaotic evil—even the ghost of a good or lawful creature can become hateful and cruel in its afterlife.
Most ghosts are CE, but they can be any alignment.

Checkmate, Pharasmafags.

I want to teach a Necromancer that creating life the "natural" way is more fun than reanimating some old bones!

>>54285189
Why are Hupia not TN undead?

>>54285190
What if he's impotent or shooting blanks? There's a high chance of that for necromancers.

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>>54285190
Natural way? Through... crafting constructs?

Dominions of Vice has a chocolate seductress with 7 int and wis now! Fun!

>>54285213
Necromancers get all the bitches unlike bitch ass enchanters who need magic to seduce theirs. Necros have massive amounts of swag.

>>54285213
>What if he's impotent or shooting blanks?

What if the Necromancer is a woman? Never thought of that!

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>>54285190
*heavy breathing*
A real living 3D waifu!

>>54285277
GEB GET YE GONE.

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Should I pull the plug on my game?

I've been running it for 3 months, roughly 10-12 sessions and it's been really rough. One of the players actually quit the other day because of a that guy, and the other players participate in the game, but it doesn't feel like they're really invested. In all actuality, I'm tired of the behind-the-scenes drama and not having fun anymore- I don't want to just dump it but it seems like the best option at this point and I've been mulling it over for a week, since last session.

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>>54285189
Wait, does this mean that CG is a valid undead alignment in "CG is best alignment, dindu nuffin" Paizo land, but LG and NG undead are nowhere to be found?

>>54285391
Well anon, since you're clearly listening to the whispers of some charnel charlatan I'll offer you some of my homebrew wisdom... Pull the plug, seriously do it. If you feel like the players aren't that invested than they probably aren't that invested, and whatever shock they have over the end of the campaign will be little more than a day's worth of recuperation.

What are some lewd adventure paths?

I want to marry Urgathoa!

>>54285123
95% are evil. The animate dead spells are all evil. That's because the spirits used to create them are hateful, evil things. (not souls either, just mindless spirits like those used in the creation of golems). Good mindless spirits infuse things like leshy. Negative energy is just the battery, like positive energy is the batter for living things, and has nothing to do with the disposition of the creature.

>>54285426
Lewd in what way?

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>haven't played in a while
>TSS catches my eye
>bamboozle is revealed before my character is half made
>Iron Gods and Carnal Crown catch my eye
>worried I'll be bamboozled again

Should I even bother?

>>54285189
>every single good undead is a unique creature
It's almost like they're outliers and utterly atypical!

>>54285396
You mean the ones saying "this is a unique and individual creature that defies the usual situation because of plot?"

>>54285426
We've been over this. 2 threads back. Ctrl+f carrion crown.

>>54285447
Go for it.

Anyone ever played/DM'd Way of the Wicked? Is it a pretty good 'Evil' campaign?

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Stat me, /pfg/.

>>54285526
Self Pact Avowed

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>>54278889
Gonzo allowed?

Oh boy oh boy, can I be a Storyteller or is that shit too broken for you?

http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/storyteller

Legend of Old (Su): At 3rd level, the storyteller can summon a legendary figure from the tales of old. The storyteller selects a particular figure that remains constant throughout his adventures. The legendary hero takes the form of a character of any class, whose level is equal to the storytellers level +2. The storyteller can only call upon the power of the legendary figure for so long. At 3rd level, he can use this ability for a number of rounds per day equal to 8 + his Charisma modifier. At each level after 3rd a storyteller can use legend of old for 2 additional rounds per day.

Summoning the legend of old is a standard action, but it can be maintained each round as a free action (as a storyteller must dramatically describe or otherwise narrate actions taken by his legendary figure after he has done them). The legend of old cannot be dispelled, but it ends immediately if the storyteller is killed, paralyzed, stunned, knocked unconscious, or otherwise prevented from taking a free action to maintain it each round. The legend of old is easily distinguishable as a fantastic being, appearing semi-translucent with striking and sometimes exaggerated features.

The legend of old always possesses average hit points per hit die, and his health and daily abilities remains constant between summonings. He regains hit points and uses of his abilities when the storyteller rests for 8 hours. When summoned, the legend appears with gear whose value cannot exceed the value shown for a character of his level on Table: 12-4 Character Wealth by Level in Chapter 12 of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook. These items have a fantastic look to them, and are melded with the legend of old; no other creature can wield or use equipment the legend of old brought with them.

>>54285640
PM your crush today, folks!

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>>54285640
John Wick agrees. PM THEM.

>>54285525
It is in my opinion.

>>54285640
>>54285647
>>54285654
Yes, PM the little morsels. Tell them how lovely they taste!

>>54285426
Reign of Winter is a deceptively good one, particularly due to the cold locales (gotta snuggle up) and range of fantastical creatures you might run into, from Winter Wolves to dragons.

>>54285537
>Self Pact
>Avowed
What?

>>54285709
Read a book, nigga

>>54285686
Can you fugg Rasputin?

>>54285752
In a lewd campaign? Sure.

>>54285752
No.

>>54285761
Ra-ra Rasputin lover of the Russian Queen~

Now there was a man who really could dance~!

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>>54285686
Sylgja is cute!

>>54285447
Just never believe you'll play anyways

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Redpill me on the best way to kill haunts in Carrion Crown, low level, 1pp + avowed + Porphyra only!

>>54285826
Paladin.

>>54285826
That cute kemonomimi is for riding
Post some you nerd, you won't

>>54285830
But paladins suck at dealing with haunts.

>>54285840
Paladin!

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You're hanging out in a tavern, this bitch comes up and slaps your girl's ass. And yours, before telling you both in no uncertain terms that you're going upstairs with her. What do you do?

>>54285899
*Shoves you away* BACK THE FUCK OFF???

>>54285826
Unironically the Spiritualist or Medium

>>54285899
I go upstairs with her, have a passionate threesome, then call the Inquisition on this seductress whom I captured

>>54285899

Go upstairs with her.

>>54285899
Masterwork manacles.

>>54285899
I laugh and wait till we're upstairs, then roll to grapple, pin, and tie up. The GM should have expected this when I said I was going full grapple in a campaign that allowed Eros Unleashed.

>>54285899
What do I do? Her and the rest of her convent.

>>54285899
Tell her no, because my girlfriend bites, and not in the nice way. She isn't physically capable of deal with our playtime. Being an immortal psychic abomination that can ignore physical damage by the use of psychic power has some perks.

>>54285899
I break her jaw. The weak should fear the strong.

>>54285525

I'm GMing it right now.

In my opinion it is the best written campaign book I've ever read.

It is actually better than Paizo adventure paths.

The subsystems are fun, the plot is interesting, the start is tense and fun as is the end of the first book.

The GM instructions and alternate options in the books are amazing. There are regular "What if my players fuck up?" sidebars.

>>54285955
You're my melanin-enhanced compatriot now.

>>54285525
One of the worst aps ever created

>>54285899
For besmirching our honor, I demand satisfaction. She may choose the weapons.
I fervently pray she chooses the lance

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>tfw it's time to buy miscellaneous swag for your PC

What kind of things have you given your characters over the years that don't have any obvious mechanical benefit? Swanky fur trim for their armor? Medicines and herbs? Alcohol?

Quick! What's the most fun or effective grappling classes!

CHALLENGE ROUND:

That aren't Tetori!

>>54286099
Aberrant Aegis, and also FiEndbound Marauder!

>>54286096
So far:
17 bottles of absinthe, a concert piano, expensive clothing, sleeves of many garments, reinforced scarf,glasses, portable bath tub, folding chair, leather cover book, writing tools, 100gp worth of waffle mix, mirthal cookware and tearaway clothing for her performances.

>>54286099
>That aren't Tetori!
None of them then, as they instantly become unfun the moment Freedom of Movement comes online.

>>54286099
Body Pact Avowed if we dive into the realm of "3pp people in these threads tend to use", as offhand anything else aside from Tetori gets absolutely fucked by FoM.

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>>54286099
Ungermaw. Aberrant Aegis. Fool's Errand gives pseudo-grappling. Brutal Crocodile is trash, but is for grappling.

>>54286096
Booze and copious amounts of food. Custom drawback means she eats 3 times as much as normal.

>>54285899
I mind break her with lesbian sex until she's docile and pliable.

>>54286247
>Brutal Crocodile
>Trash
Pls explain

>>54286269
>>54285955
We should make a trio of superheroes

>>54285732
I read many books, nigga.

>>54285899
I tell my GF we better go up with her.

>>54286247
I truly can't understand what would make a person think being eaten is arousing.

What region of Golarion is the most BLACKED?

>>54286345
Ur-mam and it's sister nation Ur-daed also that nation po Poelitikelly Imkoret, also know as /pol/. You know, the place where you should go back to.

>>54286345
The one that makes you go back to /pol/.

>>54286345
Sargava, the local people are becoming more and more BLACKED every year.

>>54286284
What's Brutal Crocodile?

How shitty is Variant Multiclassing from Pathfinder Unchained? As an Android Alchemist, it would be cool to take Sorcerer with the Nanite Bloodline under the Variant Multiclassing rules, but how much would I fuck myself?

Also, do you gain the Bloodline Arcana when you choose Sorcerer, under Variant Multiclassing?

>>54286443
Some classes benefit from variant multiclassing more than others. Even then, it really does depend on the build.

>>54286443
>do you gain the Bloodline Arcana
No

>is VMC trash
short answer: yes
long answer: it's complicated, and depends on the build

>>54286443
How many feats do you need? Think aboutt he feats you COULD be taking and compare them to the nanite bloodline. Which one betters your character more?

==/pfg/ RotJR era game statuses

Rise of the Jade Regent [RUNNING: TWO GAMES]
>Fluffy Tail 1 [DEAD]
>Fluffy Tail 2 [DEAD]
>Helnar [RETIRED (Many sessions)]
>The Amber Fields of Molthune [DEAD (1 session)]
>Misadventures of a Lazy Princess [DEAD]
/pfg/ Hell's Vengeance (Argentum ver) [RUNNING]
>Hell's Vengeance B [DEAD (3 sessions)]
>Evil Lewd Game [RETIRED (Many sessions)]
Of Dragons and Yet More Dragons [RUNNING]
Rise of the Jade Regent: PbP [RUNNING: GAME 1] [DEAD: GAME 2 (some sessions)]
The Pendragon Institute [RUNNING: TWO GAMES]
>The Sleeping Goddess [DEAD]
>The Wrath of the Righteous [DEAD]
Wrath of the Raunchy [RUNNING]
Romance of the Righteous Kingdom [RUNNING]
>Sky Pirates [DEAD]
Bathe Yourself in Blood [RUNNING]
Volorexis: Streets of Cantha [=COMPLETE=]
>Sultanas and Raisins [DEAD]
Of Dragons and Men... and more Dragons [RUNNING]
Curse of the Lazy Throne [RUNNING]
Legends of Dragonsfjord [RUNNING]
>Taldor Ascendant [DEAD]
Legacy of Blood and Flame [RUNNING]
>The Celestial Tournament [DEAD]
The Great Bamboozling [RUNNING]
Shardwalkers [RUNNING: TWO GAMES]
Hell's Rebels: Literally Can't Even Edition [RUNNING: TWO GAMES]
Puella Librum Daemonium [RUNNING]
>A Generic Pathfinder Adventure (Eberron E8) [DEAD (1 session)]
Wild Weird West [RUNNING]
Blingmaker [RUNNING]
>Blood in the Fangwood [DEAD]
Rhusae [RUNNING]
Overlewd [RUNNING: TWO GAMES]
Dimensional Ark Abyssia [STARTING]
>Raining Oil and Blood [DEAD]
>Mighty Quest for Epic Loot [???]
>Trouser Serpent's Skull [DEAD]
Ironfang Invasion [RUNNING]
>Pilgrimage to the Demonlands [DEAD]
Ensoulment of the Flower Court [RUNNING]

(1/2)

>>54286457
>No
ʳᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉ

>>54286520
Chronicles of the Golden Chalice [RUNNING]
>Essentia: Forgotten Home [DEAD/REBOOTED]
Essentia: Our Last Days [RECRUITING]
>Hells Saboteurs [DEAD]
Journey to the West [RUNNING]
>Depths of Darkness [DEAD]
Nodachi of the Righteous [STARTING]
Volo: Fluffy Tails 9 [STARTING]
A Ruse by Any Other Name [RECRUITING]
Iron Gods [RECRUITING]
>Gestalt Toad Meme Game [DEAD]
King's Gambit [STARTING]
>From the Other End of Heaven [DEAD]
>You're the Village Now [DEAD]
Dominions of Vice: An Osirion Tale [RECRUITING]
Carnal Crown [RECRUITING]

Dead games: 23
Retired games (dead but ran for a while): 2
Active games: 28
Recruiting: 5
Starting soon: 4
Completed games: 1

>>54286443
>>54286457
actually by RAW, you do gain the Bloodline Arcana of a sorcerer by taking its VMC, as it says you gain a bloodline, and bloodline arcana are not a separate feature from the bloodline feature of the sorcerer.

So by RAW, VMC as a sorcerer does give you the bloodline arcana

>>54286520
>Rhusae [RUNNING]
I thought this was a bamboozle?

>>54286552
If you bought into the meme and ended up not applying then it's your loss.

>>54286533
How do you get the font so small?!

>>54286536
>Completed games: 1
kek

>>54286624
i mean this is a list of elss than a year, its to be expected

>>54286624
Considering RotJR era started late november, not too many high profile games aimed to only last less than six months.

>>54286483
Hard to say, because I haven't decided on any feats, really. I'm just bouncing ideas around and the only thing that's surefire here is that it's an Android Alchemist with the Tinkerer archetype.

But since you don't get the Bloodline Arcana, the Variant Multiclassing into Sorcerer would be pretty shit, since the 1st-level bloodline power of the Nanite Bloodline is complete trash to me.

I can't really imagine any situation where someone wouldn't be better off simply taking Eldritch Heritage feats, since they don't get you Bloodline Arcana either, but at least allows you to pick bloodline powers past the first one.

>>54286599
Nanite Bloodline. ᵇᵉᵉᵖ ᵇᵒᵒᵖ

>>54286680
But you do get the bloodline arcana when you VMC.

it also costs less feats to VMC than take eldritch heritage

>>54286653
Imagine running a 5+ hour game every week for 6 months and you've only now hit a level.

>>54286705
>Imagine running a 8+ hour game every week for a year and you've only leveled up twice.

>>54286705
Tfw have levelled twice and are taking down the second antagonist in three months

How do you people live without adventure?

>>54286705
A game I joined off pfg apparently had its first level up in four years the other month.

There are worse levels to be stuck at for years than level 10 though

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>>54286543
>>54286701
>but you do get the bloodline arcana

But that's fucking wrong you dumbfuck, it doesn't specify arcana, it specifies bloodline powers. You don't trade the feats away to get an entire Bloodline, you trade feats for SPECIFIC abilities from a bloodline. This was even fucking FAQ'd and it's the first fucking result if you search it.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2sa6v?Unchained-VMC-Sorcerer-Bloodline-Arcana

>Carnel Clown has only female apps so far

>>54286756
that would be the RAI, but Bloodline arcana is actually not a separate ability from the bloodline itself.

Eldritch heritage specifically calls out that you don't get the arcana with the 'you don't get any other abilities bit', but VMC doesn't, and by RAW you get the bloodline arcana.

this is why I noted RAW

>>54286723
I would've left the game before it came to that, I like playing but if I'm not here to be your social interaction for the week.

>>54286750
I think it's partially due to text-based and partially due to people around here being obsessed with long-winded character interactions.

Don't some of these games even have IC going on 24/7?

>>54286756
Its not like its broken to give them the arcana though, its pretty minor in most cases,
and i would house-rule it to be OK, especially given the overall comparison in costs to someone who wants to get the arcana of dipping 1 level of sorc VS losing half their feats

>>54286785
>"DUDE YOU CAN BE RAPED"
>expecting male apps
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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>>54286543
Are you sure? Because that would put the VMC Nanite Bloodline back on the table again, since you'd have to take Skill Focus: Knowledge (Engineering) to take Eldritch Heritage, and no matter how we cut it, you end up with the 1st Bloodline Power being useless.

The only great things here are really the Bloodline Arcana and the extra Nanite Surge.

>>54286785
>Renpa for Dominions of Vice just bought 50x units of Night Tea.

Why is Captcha insisting I do 10 separate images for Signs?

>>54286816
You'd think that would make sense, but then.
Look at how many male apps PLD got.

>>54286820
by RAW you do

in all honestly, ask your GM, eldritch heritage is pretty bad most of the time.

>>54286785
Most people who would write male apps that would get accepted are already drowning in E-pussy.

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>>54286825
>mfw

>>54286826
And only two got accepted, one who never had jack shit actually happen to him, and one who got turned into a femboy.

>>54286792
>>54286812
I'm not really so much against giving a VMC sorcerer the Arcana, given how 90% of them are awful, I'm mostly just pointing out it's not actually RAW and devs straight up SAY it's neither RAW nor RAI. Said devs are also inconsistent fucking hacks who can't write for shit, so I can't really fault you for this.

>>54286792
Well if you wanted to deliberately misinterpret rules just say "I'm a faggot munchkin" next time and this conversation doesn't have to take place

>>54286284
It isn't even kind of balanced against anything, so the likelihood of it ever seeing play is slim, as of now. Things like tearing off limbs and instant death are powerful effects, and level 1 3d8+ grapple mod*1.5 is nasty damage. I can't say what hugger levels look like without running numbers, though.

>>54286096
I had a character that collected sandals

>>54286897
The devs can say its not RAW all they want, but it is. I don't know why they didn't word it the same as Eldritch heritage. Its almost like they're hacks or something.

Its definitely not RAI.

>>54286796
That was PLD and it's continuous yes, but it's only like a paragraph a day nowadays

>>54286756
If you'd take care to read the thread you link, it specifies the issue right there, and it's never actually been FAQ:d. Samasboy1 details the issue in it's entirety.

Mark Seifter is being a dumbfuck, because:
>You get exactly what it says you get, and not anything else by RAW and RAI.
>It doesn't say you get bloodline arcana, so you don't get it.
These two things are in opposition, because by RAW, you absolutely get Bloodline Arcana when you get a Bloodline. By your logic, Sorcerers never get Bloodline Arcana of any Bloodline either.

>>54286869
>>54286826
And don't forget the recent recruitment, where Vult said he didn't wanted breeder sluts, then picked a breeder slut anyways!

>>54286825
Clearly she's going to use it on the trap and see what happens

>>54286869
So you're saying that we've learned our lesson

>>54286933
>Sorcerers don't get their own bloodline arcana because they don't explicitly get it

You're actually right, holy fuck its hilarious.

>>54286897
>devs straight up SAY it's neither RAW
But that's fucking wrong you dumbfuck.

>>54286935
Femdom is not breeding slut

>>54286933
As stated earlier: The devs are fucking hacks who can't write for shit most of the time.

>>54286935
He specifically picked a femdom character. True to his word, at least.

>>54285084

I was hoping i could ask your opinion on this guy, /pgg/, Any way you think i could improve 'em?

https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1269458

>>54286816
I've never actually played on Roll20 or online or anything and have never experienced this. What's getting raped like?

>>54286520
>Hell's Rebels: Literally Can't Even Edition [RUNNING: TWO GAMES]

One of them is dead, 2hu killed it.

>>54286999
why do you repeat this lie every time

>>54286991
I hear it sucks dick

>>54286991
Usually poorly-written, with copious spelling errors, and 20-30 minute waits between responses. Expect to be putting in 90% of the work where your partner only puts in 10%.

>>54286991
you get to have really shitty ERP with your GM

>>54286991
Both a lewd experience and an interesting RP one.
Whether the cause is rape or not, it's generally an interesting thing to see your character pushed to the brink of fear and despair, and then to see how they cope with it after.

>>54287015
And unironically responds with [angry drake noises]

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Is there a way to have a text-based game, but keep it moving at a reasonable speed?

>Run my own game
>Have to literally compete with the entire internet for someone's attention
>People open steam games, browse the net, take ages between replies
>Then it turns out that one of the players was in TWO games at the same time, mine and someone else's

>Watch a livestream of 5e
>The players actually get through a fair amount of material each session

>>54286991
>What's getting raped like?
If you give me your adress, I can give you a first hand account. Trust me it will be *deeply* personal.

>>54287031
>can't even make a joke nowadays

>>54286952
It's really just a minor oversight, but the fact that Mark Seifter doesn't just poke his head in and says "Yeah, sorry, you're right, it's RAW, but it's a mistake. You're not meant to get the bloodline arcana when you get a bloodline through VMC" makes him a huge faggot, and causes needless confusion.

Like JRutterbush (sorry, I said it was Samasboy1, but he's just "+1") says in the thread, either the Sorcerers don't get Bloodline Arcanas either (because Bloodline Arcanas are NOT part of getting a Bloodline), or VMC Sorcerers do get Bloodline Arcanas (because Bloodline Arcanas ARE part of getting a Bloodline).

It's clear that by RAI-as-according-to-Seifter, you're not meant to get the Bloodline Arcana. But by RAW, you absolutely do, no matter what he says.

Also, as far as I know, this has never been FAQ:d. A forum post does not constitute a FAQ or Errata, and it's never been fixed in the books, and it can't be considered a rules clarification because like I said, his statements are actually conflicting. You could just as well consider it a "clarification" that Sorcerers don't get Bloodline Arcana, which would be absurd.

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Why do we so often hear about how the first session of a campaign (usually a /pfg/ campaign) turned out so wonderfully, and with the greentext stories to back it up? These stories make it sound as if the average /pfg/ game starts off with a memorable bang and with minimal hitches.

In my experience as a player and as a GM, however, first sessions are usually rife with many problems: players not knowing how to roleplay or mechanically play their characters, the GM having trouble setting scenes to start off the campaign, the GM having trouble introducing the very first NPCs, issues with aligning tone between the entire group, nobody having the hang of anything just yet, inevitable scheduling issues, and so on.

Yet the stories of "Our campaign is off to a great start!" make it seem like none of these issues ever arise in other people's campaigns.

Why? Am I just unlucky with new campaigns? Is it really the case that, on average, first sessions are great, wonderful, and problem-free?

Brutal Crocodile, if anyone wants to look at it!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E9iFDu8I2_n5F9EcZYB8Tkljf8ohKnfoa7eJHJ2M_tI/edit

It seems fun!

>>54287066
Realistically, its not broken to give a VMC sorcerer the bloodline arcana, and by RAW they get it. Don't really see why its a problem.

>>54286963
Well that's one thing, fucking up in the books. It's another thing to pop into a thread to clarify something, fuck it up, get called out on being wrong, and then just not bothering to clarify things. That's beyond hackery.

>>54287035
Learn how to sacrifice detail for speed.
Constantly push the players along if you think they're lagging.
Enforce that if someone takes too long before acknowledging their turn, they're skipped.
Also typing out all their mechanics and resolving rolls first and declaring their turn over, and then fluffing out their descriptions retroactively while the next player takes their turn.

>>54287078
>posting this garbage

nobody care

>>54287035
Voice OOC and text IC. 1 minute turn limits unless somebody is gonna get killed.
>>54287071
People tend to romanticize shit.

>>54287071
Well there's one consistent factor between these two scenarios
one are games that don't contain you
one are gains that contain you
hmmmm, wonder what the problem is.

>>54287081
Me neither, I think it's an odd call on the developers part to claim that RAI is that they don't get it (and also, erroneously claim that RAW, they don't).

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>>54287071
Because, you ginormous autistic shit, it's quite possible that other people DO IN FACT HAVE GOOD FIRST SESSIONS, and your experience is heavily biased based on your own views and experiences. Those first games may not have "objectively good" starts, and may even be full of problems, but a good first session can also depend heavily on the attitude of the people involved. If you sit there obsessing over every single problem and never look at the good parts, then you're going to be a miserable sack of shit forever and probably never learn anything.

>>54287071
I'm used to having first sessions being a clusterfuck, but I also don't consider that a problem, so even though little actually gets done, I can easily have a clusterfuck of a first couple of sessions, but still feel like we're off to a great start.

I've never had a game that starts problem-free, even with well-established groups of mine that have played many different systems, but it's rarely a real problem. If anything, it's often a point of hilarity.

Maybe it's different in text-only games, where it's hard to laugh your ass off and you don't get a personal relationship with the other players in the same way, and frustrations may build, I dunno.

>>54287071
Bad parts of /pgg/ games don't get dropped in the open. You can pick up a lot of problems whlie lurking around, like someone mentions that a session had to be cancelled this week, or that there was a bad session that doesn't mention the game but then someone else anonymously replies to it to apologize.

The bad part about playing with people here is that there's nowhere to anonymously vent about your grievances with your campaign. When things go well, one of five to six players will probably come here to talk it up, but we can only learn about negatives through rare vague musings.

>>54287066
Anon by the magic of Mark Seifter, clearly if he claims that is RAI are RAW, its done

He's clearly not retarded

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>>54287204
>He's clearly not retarded

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>>54286975
>>54286962
>femdom character
>no males for her to dom

>>54287229
CLEARLY

>>54287231
V/u/lt

>>54287071
I usually struggle with first sessions, but once you break the group integration/mechanics barrier it's all good.

>>54286999
Still not true.

>>54287066
desu, I'll freely admit I'm a RAW-tist who jumped the gun, but this conversation leading to the realization that VMC not giving arcana means a sorcerer itself wouldn't actually get it either is making me remember where the dent in my wall came from.

>>54286975
Femdom character? But I thought the yandere wasn't chosen.

>>54286933
Eldritch Heritage never says you get the Bloodline, m8. Sorcerer, on the other hand, does say you get the Bloodline.

>>54287319
Faustina the military tyrant girl

>>54287355
Correct, Eldritch heritage says you choose a bloodline to gain the first level power from.

Sorcerer says you gain a bloodline

VMC sorcerer also says you get a bloodline

>>54287368
>VMC sorcerer also says you get a bloodline
It doesn't say that, though.
>Bloodline: At 1st level, she must select a sorcerer bloodline. She treats her character level as her effective sorcerer level for all bloodline powers.
It doesn't say "You gain the selected Bloodline". It only gives the powers.
Only an actual Sorcerer explicitly gains the entire Bloodline.

>>54287390
everything about it says 'her bloodline', so therefore they must gain the bloodline itself.

>>54287231
She can still dom Lysander.

>>54287415
By that logic, you gain all Bloodline Powers twice.
Bloodline Powers are part of having a Bloodline, yet the VMC explicitly gives them you after giving the "Bloodline" feature.

>>54287443
Actually no, bloodline powers are a separate feature from the bloodline itself, as seen on the sorcerer's class table

>>54287421
>Lysander
>male
Yeah, you just keep telling yourself that.

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>>54287368
>>54287390
>>54287443
Really, the biggest thing I'm taking away from this is that not only is the VMC's wording not exact enough in how it lays out RAW, the sorcerer itself is atrociously worded as well despite people being able to decipher how it's intended to work.

>>54287466
According to the sorcerer class table, the sorcerer at level 1 would not get an Arcana, as the only things listed are
>Bloodline power
>cantrips
>eschew materials

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I have been struck with inspiration for a character concept for Carrion Crown.

However, I am not interested in playing out any ERP under the Carnal Crown GM. I am fine with having my character violated off-screen, but I will do my best to prevent that from happening in the first place, and I want to play the adventure path in a straight-laced fashion.

Should I still apply for Carnal Crown, or accept that it is not the game for me, and wait for another Carrion Crown game to appear?

>>54287466
Text trumps table.
Sorcerer class text only has one big Bloodline feature, which doesn't specifically call out Bloodline Powers.

>>54286785
I'll be posting a male app sometime soon-ish. Just need to find art that'd fit a witch-wolf Skinwalker.

>>54287493
Unless we assume the bloodline arcana is part of the bloodline class feature itself

>>54287497
so we agree that the bloodline thing is a fucking mess

>>54287488
He's still a male, just a female (male.)

>>54285826
Cleric, since you can spont. Cure spells at them

>>54285899
Tell her I'm not Catholic and have no interest in converting

>>54287496
Wait for another game. Joining an ERP game but not wanting to ERP is like an ERPer joining a normal campaign, automatically makes you That Guy.

>>54287511
>so we agree that the bloodline thing is a fucking mess
Yes, but the short version is that the VMC doesn't actually give you the Bloodline feature - it only gives you Bloodline Powers.
Nothing more, nothing less.
That is the only internally consistent reading.

>>54287529
if you accept that reading than the sorcerer doesn't gain arcana either.

>>54285899
I cast Magic Missile

>>54287496
>the diamond dogs begin again

>>54287511
>Unless we assume the bloodline arcana is part of the bloodline class feature itself
The Sorcerer class table doesn't say you get the Bloodline class feature. Again, text trumps table.

>>54287559
No. The sorcerer's class feature is that you get the entirety of the Bloodline, which is unique to the sorcerer. Thus, you get everything included into the Bloodline.
VMC simply doesn't give you the Bloodline itself.

>>54287574
the sorcerer class table does say you get the bloodline class feature though?

>>54287583
It literally doesn't, I'm looking at it right now.
Level 1: Bloodline power, cantrips, eschew materials

>>54287204
>Anon by the magic of Mark Seifter, clearly if he claims that is RAI are RAW, its done
>He's clearly not retarded.
Given the first sentence there, you're clearly retarded yourself. The second sentence simply confirms it.

>>54287496
>>54287573
>We're Not Junkyard Hounds Anymore

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What is the best way to make clockwork soliders and the like? Wizard with craft construct but what else?

>>54287593
You're right, lets look at the precise wording

Sorcerer: "A sorcerer must pick one bloodline upon taking her first level of sorcerer. Once made, this choice cannot be changed."

VMC: Bloodline: At 1st level, she must select a sorcerer bloodline. She treats her character level as her effective sorcerer level for all bloodline powers.

These seem to have the same function, in addition, there is no mention of Bloodline arcana under the text of sorcerer, so it must be an inherent part of selecting a bloodline unless otherwise noted

>>54287511
The Bloodline Arcana, Bloodline feature itself, and Bloodline Powers are all atrociously laid out, is the main thing, as nothing appears to be consistently laid out anywhere but the archetype chart on the d20pfsrd that lays out features.

>>54287529
Nigga, I opened this can of worms and all I can tell you is that trying to argue any more is pointless, because it appears sorcerer itself only actually functions if you look at it from RAI, as RAW it's a clusterfuck. RAW anon can have his cake, he just shouldn't expect to bring it to every table.

>>54287630
>Sorcerer: "A sorcerer must pick one bloodline upon taking her first level of sorcerer. Once made, this choice cannot be changed."
That's not the entire description.
Here is the quote that says you get everything:
>Each sorcerer has a source of magic somewhere in her heritage that grants her spells, bonus feats, an additional class skill, and other special abilities.
>and other special abilities
That is an open-ended description, meaning you get all abilities within the Bloodline.
VMC doesn't have this.

>>54287624
Arclord PrC and Craft Construct? Sadly construcs is not something I am versed in, so other than that I can't help

>>54287355
We weren't talking about Eldritch Heritage, though. We were talking about VMC Sorcerer. And VMC Sorcerer explicitly selects a Bloodline, and it does not say that this does not give you the Bloodline Arcana (which it DOES say with Eldritch Heritage).

Unless, of course, you want to seriously suggest that Sorcerers do not get Bloodline Arcana either.

>>54287505
I've got some, what hair color you want?

>>54287646
Yes, and the VMC says you -select- a sorcerer bloodline, presumably this would be the entire bloodline class feature. It gains that bloodline's 1st level power at 3rd level

>>54287657
That is why I want to do it. To get better at it. Plus I dont want to deal with undead. Too much hassle. Arclord. I will have to remember that. I like the clockwork ones better than normal constructs too.

>>54287624

Construct Rider Alchemist gets Craft Construct around 4, and their main archetype feature is a semi-sapient clockwork mount.

Also, is that picture from anything in particular? Or did you just find it?

>>54287676
No. You select it, but nothing says you get the feature. The only rational reading is that you select it for the purpose of further features described in the VMC.
Otherwise, well, you get all bloodline powers twice as bloodline powers are part of having a bloodline.

>>54287713
No, bloodline powers and bonus feats are actually sorcerer class features, not part of a bloodline

Bloodline arcana are part of a bloodline.

>>54287675
Black would probably make the most sense, but I'll take any really. Bonus points if his hair looks kind of wild and unkempt though.

Would I be "That Guy" if I worshiped Walkena and passionately agree with his beliefs?

>>54287684
Actually, I did some digging, and it goes by another name on the SRD
Here is a link
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/i-m/mage-of-the-third-eye/

>>54287739
I've got a great piece of art for that!

>>54287729
Bloodline Feats are specifically described as a Sorcerer class feature in Sorcerer class text:
>At 7th level, and every six levels thereafter, a sorcerer receives one bonus feat, chosen from a list specific to each bloodline. The sorcerer must meet the prerequisites for these bonus feats.
Bloodline Powers, however, are not described in this way, meaning they are part of the Bloodline class feature.
Stop being obtuse and retarded, m8.

>>54287762
well then I geus you're right, RAW sorcerer VMC recieve bloodline powers twice.

Top tier writing from paizo.

>>54287782
>RAW sorcerer VMC recieve bloodline powers twice.
Only if you subscribe to your retarded and unsupported by text assertion that the VMC actually gives the actual Bloodline feature in its' entirety, which it clearly and self-evidently doesn't, thus neither giving Bloodline Powers twice nor giving Bloodline Arcana.

>>54287795
>unsupported by text
>selects a bloodline

really makes you think

>>54287646
Each are open-ended for interpretations. That's just it. Unless something is exempt, it's implied that you get everything from picking the Bloodline. The text you're citing is descriptive, it is not precise in what you gain or do not gain, in the same way VMC sorcerer isn't either.

It is *never* explicitly stated that Sorcerer gets the Bloodline Arcana. It is *implied* by the fact that you pick a Bloodline, which you gain all the benefits of. Likewise, it is *never* stated that VMC Sorcerer *doesn't* get the Bloodline Arcana of their chosen Bloodline.

There's only two ways to interpret RAW in this case: Either both get the Bloodline Arcana, or neither does. The latter would be absurd, based on everything we know, and is clearly wrong by RAW. The former makes perfect sense, and is in line with everything else suggested by rules text.

RAI-as-according-to-Seifter is extremely clear: You're NOT intended to get the Bloodline Arcana. But beyond that one post of him, which contains a claim that's factually wrong, called out as factually wrong, and to which he never returns to clarify, this is NEVER FAQ:d or Errata'd, implying that, in fact, RAW *is* RAI.

This is after all a known issue and Pathfinder Unchained was released in 2015, and this has not been addressed, suggesting that there is, in fact, nothing to address. The simplest explanation is that Seifter was simply mistaken, which also explains why he never returned after being called out on that.

>>54287803
You select a Bloodline for purposes of further described features.
You don't actually fucking gain all powers of the Bloodline.
You don't have an equivalent of this text to say you actually get the shit:
>Each sorcerer has a source of magic somewhere in her heritage that grants her spells, bonus feats, an additional class skill, and other special abilities.

>>54287795
>sorcerers don't get bloodline arcana
You are fucking retarded.

>>54287795
The reading of the text is as obtuse as you are. The RAW is the VMC and the Sorcerer entries are bad writing and subject to Rule Negative Two: DM mind caulk trumps text and table.

Fuck your interpretation. Fuck everyone's interpretation, to be desu.

>>54287830
Sorcerers do get it. VMCfags don't.
Now fuck off already if you're unwilling to read the rules and are just pulling arguments out of your ass to munchkin a +1 DC to your metamagicked spells.

>>54287741

If I remember correctly, Walkena's beliefs include labeling any Mwangi who consorts with non-Mwangi a traitor. Might put you at odds with party members or important NPCs, depending on the campaign.

>>54287762
Except that Bloodline Powers are explicitly granted by the Sorcerer Class Feature, at specific levels. These specific levels are explicitly altered by the VMC Sorcerer. It's like you're being obnoxiously obtuse on purpose.

>>54287695
Personal concept art. I think this is the original source

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/EL2A4

>>54287749
Youre the best!

>>54287852
>Except that Bloodline Powers are explicitly granted by the Sorcerer Class Feature, at specific levels.
Quote the text, faggot.

What's an easy AP to run? Preferably one that isn't very hard for the players either

>>54287840
>Sorcerers do get it.
>VMCfags don't.
No. You cannot have it both ways by RAW. And if you actually had any RAW to support it, you would've presented it by now.

So how is this for fixing Varisian Dancing Scarves?
>Varisian dancing scarves provide no benefit while you are standing still; you must be moving or dancing to gain its effects. Whenever you move at least 10 feet during your turn, or you are using Bardic Performance using Perform (Dance), you gain a +2 shield bonus to AC until the beginning of your next turn.
>Alternately, you can attempt a DC 15 Perform (Dance) check as a Move action to start a battle dance that lasts up to 1 turn, plus 1 turn for every 1 with which you beat the DC. During the battle dance you gain the benefits of this item as if you were using Bardic Performance. Battle dance is cancelled if you are grappled, stunned, prone or otherwise prevented to move in a way that makes you be unable to take a move action to move your speed.

>>54287879
Kingmaker.

>>54287892
Have you read any of my posts?
If yes, fuck off and read them again because you clearly haven't.
If no, fuck off and stop wasting my time.

Guys, what's better:
Sohei1/EnlightenedPal X
Sacred Fist X
or
Hear me out
Warpriest VMC Monk
?

"Collar of the True Companion
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 9th
Slot neck; Price 10,000 gp; Weight 1 lb.

DESCRIPTION

Although it appears to be a simple thong of leather, this collar was initially conceived by druids who believed that there were animals who possessed spirits worthy of elevation to true sentience. If worn by a creature of the animal type with an Intelligence less than 3, a collar of the true companion grants a +2 enhancement bonus to Intelligence. This does not give the animal the ability to speak, but it does allow it to understand one spoken language (chosen by the item’s creator).

If the collar is worn for at least 1 week by a creature of the animal type, the creature is raised to humanlike sentience, as though by the awaken spell. Once this occurs, the collar loses its magical properties.

If a collar of the true companion is worn for more than 1 week by a creature not of the animal type, the wearer is feebleminded until the collar is removed."

Now, this made me curious, what does the term feebleminded mean in pathfinder? I did a lot of searching, and what came up was this.

"Feeblemind

School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting]; Level 5
CASTING
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S, M (a handful of clay, crystal, or glass spheres)
EFFECT
Range medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Target one creature
Duration instantaneous
Saving Throw Will negates; see text; Spell Resistance yes
DESCRIPTION

Target creature’s Intelligence and Charisma scores each drop to 1. The affected creature is unable to use Intelligence– or Charisma-based skills, cast spells, understand language, or communicate coherently. Still, it knows who its friends are and can follow them and even protect them. The subject remains in this state until a heal, limited wish, miracle, or wish spell is used to cancel the effect of the feeblemind. A creature that can cast arcane spells, such as a sorcerer or a wizard, takes a -4 penalty on its saving throw."

>>54287893
Any reason for the name? Is this fix something you're specifically considering for your campaign?

>>54287904
Going by this, the collar of true companion is one of the most brutal items in Pathfinder, capable of destroying the minds of anyone who wears it for a week.

Also the prefect puppy-play item.

>>54287893
God, I want that so bad.

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>>54287858
compared to
>>54286820

>>54287903
Sacred fist.

>>54287915
I fucked up and forgot the namefield, lel. But yes, I am considering this and a few other houserules for the campaign.

>>54287923
Text>table, explicitly, whenever they contradict each other, such as here.

>>54287879
>>54287897
Not Kingmaker. Kingmaker is a fucking mess. Don't trust this anon.

>>54287897
Kingmaker is not an option

>>54287496
>>54287526
Join anyway, you can still have fun without ERP right?

>>54287901
I've read them, and you've yet to actually prove anything. RAW is pretty clear desu. Again, you can't have it both ways.

>>54287917
Imagine putting that collar on, and then "waking up" three years later.

>>54287979
You'd only have 1 int and 1 cha, so you wouldn't really have any fucking idea of what went on the entire time you had the collar on too.

Who knows what lewd things your body would have been used for!

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>>54287904
>>54287917
Why not just cast Feeblemind on them the regular way?

>>54287944
There's no contradiction, though. The VMC doesn't have any table, only rules text, and it makes it clear that you gain the specific powers at specific levels which deviates from when the regular Sorcerer gains those same powers as stated in the bloodline and clarified in the table. You'd have to be retarded to see a contradiction.

>>54287948
>>54287949
Skulls and Shackles.

>>54288005
>There's no contradiction, though.
The contradiction is between Sorcerer class text and Sorcerer class table.

>>54287948

It's kind of funny, seeing as that's the AP that was chosen to be the Pathfinder cRPG.

>>54287741
Yes, you're that guy for even proposing that because you're just trying to drag /pol/ memes to the table.

>>54288003
Well 10000gp for a re-usable collar is cheaper than dealing with limited wish ect

>>54287893
On second thought, the variance is weird as fuck so I'm changing it to DC20, base 5 rounds, +1 per 5 above.

>>54288034
I can't help but feel that the LFG is going to go up and Intrigue GM is going to turn out to be Rory or Vult or some other memester at large

>>54288062
He is a memester at large, though.
Literally one of the most active Discordites.

>>54288062
I'm pretty sure Intrigue was by the same guy who posted You're the Village Now, Karvane or whatever his name is.

>>54288103
>Karvane
>Karvase
>Kavase
>Kawase
God damn it.

>>54288103
Witch's writer?

Oh yeah, anyone know how ensoulment session 1 went last night?

>>54287993
That's as arousing as it is terrifying.

>>54288021
Kingmaker makes a good video game for precisely the reasons it's bad at the table without heavy revisions.

>>54288125
It's not Kawase

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Help me Pathfriends, my Witch needs a feat that let her add her IntMod to her Initiative. You're my only hope!

>>54288129
Protag rage quit and cancelled the session halfway through it.

>>54288129
HEEL SWITCH
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>>54287993
I want to put one on Renpa!

>>54288162
Presence of Mind. Third party, though.

>>54288175
>>54288165
What does that mean

>>54288129
It went pretty well. It went on longer than some of us expected, but we certainly had fun.

>>54288162
Play a Seducer and get Noble Scion for Scion of War. That's pretty much the only thing I can think of to help a Witch get her casting stat to initiative.

>>54288195
Stop shilling.

>>54288225
Ley Line Guardians also get CHA as a casting stat.

>>54288162
Sadly, the only 1pp way to get Int to Initiative is as a 7th level Kensei Magus.
Though, Improved Initiative should be just good enough, even if its not scaling with your mental stat

>>54288162
Use a bunny familiar and get improved initiative!

>>54288252
No, they don't. Their daily uses of their Ley Line Power thing scales off it, but they are still INT-casters.

>>54288210
>>54288225
>>54288252
>>54288283
>>54288303
>>54288328
You are all lovely and I hope you see a friendly puppy today.

>>54288369
I own a friendly puppy!
Well, he's a bit too old to be a puppy, and he's a lot slower now, but he's still friendly

>>54288216
In wrestling slang, face = good guy and heel = bad guy. Heel switch means a face turning into a heel, therefore context is Protag is now a villain.

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>>54288412
Dont you mean Antag?

>>54288369
I'm sure I will--my buddy just got a corgi pupper!

I'm back up and awake. Gonna get some more templates set up before I finish up Bloodforge and Bloodforge Infusions: Esoteric Energy. Gonna get a Spell/Psionic Power, Akashic Veil template, and a Maneuver template set up.

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>>54288446
Use the Overlord version next time semenpie.

>>54288482
m8, just let us know when the thing is done enough to show off, if you keep at it like this you're gonna end up like Tav

>>54288456

Your buddy is a lucky bastard. Corgis are wonderful.

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>>54288369
I had to take my dog to the vet for a screening to see if they can operate or if they will put her down, so hopefully I will see her again today.

>>54288517
Sure thing, Just wanted to let folks know that I'm still working on it.

I don't wanna end up in the DSP Gulag after all

>>54288548
t.aveena

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>>54288456
Is it his Animal Companion?

>>54288541
Hope your doggo gets well soon, anon.

>>54288541

Here's hoping for the best, anon.

>>54288019
>The contradiction is between Sorcerer class text and Sorcerer class table.
None that I can see.

>>54288590
The Sorcerer class table doesn't say you get a Bloodline at all.
The Sorcerer class text does say you have a Bloodline, but Bloodline Powers aren't called out as a specifically independent text, they're just part of the Bloodline.

>>54288541
I feel you anon >>54288410 Here, and we currently have to take our pupper to the vet next Monday to take care of a liquid-swollen tumor on his leg. Such is how it is when you own a 14 year old Scottish Terrier

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If you ran Iron Gods, and every one of the player characters would be from Numeria or intimately tied to it, would it be reasonable to give everyone the Technologist feat?

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As a new gm how do I add filler combat without relying on random encounter tables or "the mayor wants you randos new to town to clear the dire rats in the sewer" gimicks?

>>54288702
Technologist is the silliest tax and everyone should get it for free past book 1 or so.

>>54288619
And bloodline defines what levels you get powers on as clarified by the table, and modified by the rules text of VMC Sorcerer. I still don't see a contradiction.

>>54288702
No. Technologist implies SPECIALIZATION IN THE FIELD.

>>54288735
If there's some overarching menace, some evidence of that being a thing could work.

>>54288753
You're literally pulling arguments out of your ass and refusing to read what's actually written to munchkin +1 DC.
I'm way too done with this and not going to argue with you further.

>>54288752
I disagree, outside of games that are this focused on tech.

>>54288702
Yes, it's a shit tax.

>>54288779
>munchkin +1 DC.
You keep saying this, yet the original question concerned the nanite bloodline, and you're spilling spaghetti based on your own strawman. The only one pulling shit out of their ass is you.

Everyone else seems to have pretty much accwpted that the RAW is clear, even if fucked.

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>>54288735
>Filler combat

>>54287035

This is my biggest struggle as a player. Everyone else is so fucking slow. It takes the other people in my group 20-40 minutes to execute things I would do in 2-3.

"Here's my plan, what do I need to roll?"
>GM tells me what I need to roll if anything
Pose the action and move on

I feel bad to just run over the other players though so inevitably we end up wasting hours every session waiting on the same people to type up paragraphs of purple prose.

>>54288735
Literally why would you want filler combat?

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>>54288735
>>54288770

It always starts with one or two. Isn't until later you realize they were just the scouts.

>>54288863
Purple prose doesn't take that long to write up, most of the time I assume they're also begging their sister to suck them off while playing the game.

>>54288735
>filler combat
You don't. This isn't a vidya gaem moron

>>54287035
Use voice, faggot.

>Ties of Blood - Your rather attractive cousin is just about to get married to some random rich fellow during the festival, and you've come along for the ceremony. No ulterior motives at all.
>+2 Diplomacy and CS, starts with an enormous crush on a family member and 1 dose of Lover's breath
Intrigue GM is an absolute madman

>>54289019
WEW lad

>>54288849
>>54288952
>>54288928

Filler combat as in it is not a plot centered combat. The story would continue just as well of they talked their way out of it, or flew over it.

>>54287760
Sorry for the late reply, if that's the case then I'd definitely appreciate the help; Looking for art's usually the hardest part of chargen for me.

>>54289019
You have my attention.

How do you cope with the fact that you have a 2+Int ranks class and you can't risk more than putting a 10 on int?

>>54289117
Alcohol. I am the drunken fighter meme.

>>54289117
Take comfort that I am the groups mule and try to convince myself that sacrificing myself on the front lines is for the best of party cohesion.

>>54289019
1st or 3rd?

>>54289117
You play a human, a different class, or an archetype that changes your skill points per level. If you're a Cleric, you get an Int/Wis headband eventually.

Or you figure out the two must have skills from your class and keep those up, maybe throwing a single point in secondary skills depending on the situation.

>>54289117
I play either a better class that Fighter, or I at least take a good archetype and use AWT and AAT rules and maybe the DHB Fighter

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>>54289117
>Tier 5 class
>2+Int skill points
>no background skills or feat taxes
Let's rock

>>54289179
>>54289215
I'm an Aasimar Paladin

I've got 153 shiney gold shekels left over for rolling up my barbarian. What should I buy?

>>54289241
Then cry in the night and hope it helps.
>>54289264
153 blowjobs.

>>54289241
Eh, you don't need your Dex or Cha that high. A 14 to start in Cha is good enough, and Dex is only if you're an Archerdin. Just focus on killing things gud and you'll be fine

>>54289349
>Dex
I got +2 Str +2 Cha (Angel-Blooded).

>>54286520
Hell's vengeance is probably dead too. I dont think that thing has had a greentext post in almost a month.

>>54289264

Blood boiling pills

>>54289264
Rope. A lot of rope. A handful of potions. Alchemist's Fire. Some salves and shit.

>>54289264
A dildo.

Anyone have a script for abyssal/infernal/celestial?
I've seen draconic everywhere and thassilonian a couple of times but I would love other scripts to use for handouts.

>>54289532
I think they only green text when there're happenings.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82673/iron-gods (Closing in 2 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83053/dominions-of-vice-an-osirion-adventure (Closing in 1 Week)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83254/carnal-crown (Closing in 3 Weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/81935/essentia-our-last-days (Closing in 2 Weeks)

Should a blowjob really cost 1 gp?

>>54289975
Yeah desu it should be free.

Acrobatics isn't even worth the sacrifice, damn, the monsters you don't want to provoke are almost impossible to tumble

>>54289975
Depends on who's giving it. The SRD lists a "companion" for adventures that need some "intimacy" at prices ranging from 5 cp-10 gp, with the median for an hour being a few silver pieces+room.
>>54290005
That's what diplomacy checks are for.

>>54290030
>That's what diplomacy checks are for.
Intimidate should also work.

>>54290047
Well, if you're not particularly attached to your genitals and don't mind getting strung up for rape, I guess it does.

>>54290061
> if you're not particularly attached to your genitals
>not having DR
Literally plebeian.

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When the fuck is the discipline errata coming, I want to be able to say I want to take Broken Blade without people immediately assuming I'm trying to be some huge damage-stacking fag when all I want is to be better at grappling.

>>54290100
>initiation
>grappling
No. Alternatively.Just take fools errand.

>>54290134
Well if you have a better way to add Charisma to grapple checks, lemme know senpai

>>54289053
In my opinion if you're playing an online game, especially a text one, you want to cut out as much non-plot important combat as you can. You don't get a lot of time, and your campaign will never get anywhere is you lose a third of all your sessions to having a random encounter that eats up the whole thing (plus they're harder for the DM to make on the fly in a Roll20 game).

Alright, I'm basically finished with everything except Factions, and my approach to Factions is going to be "solve the bonus details later". I might write up some details on a few of the campaign specific factions, and then just work with players on details on other factions. Either way, Faction bonuses will not be a thing at game start, though characters who have a Campaign Trait that gives them a Faction Membership will have a head start towards getting bonuses.

In the meantime, are there any other small fixes you'd like to see in Intrigue? Specifically, small and easy item fixes (like the one I did for Varisian Dancing Scarves). Post if you got some, and I'll see what can be done.

Couple of questions
How do you get pounce as a Paladin?
Why people say Bladed Dash is pounce? at best you get 2 attacks with spell strike

>>54290255
first question: be a catfolk paladin
Second Question: if you're a magus, you can use Spell Combat with Bladed Dash to full attack and cast it in the same round. For any other class, there's no reason to call it pounce

>>54290255
>How do you get pounce as a Paladin?
There are three class-independent pounce options:
1. Pummeling Charge
2. Mounted Skirmisher
3. Dimensional Dervish

>>54290255
Spell Combat lets you full attack and cast Bladed Dash in the same round.

So you Bladed Dash which lets you move and attack. And then you can full attack whatever poor shmuck you're next to.

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>>54290224
Give kineticists the option to run off a Stamina system instead of burn. It's still constitution based, but doesn't result in the character killing themselves to use their abilities, and if it recovers overtime, it means they can actually do the "All Day" thing.

>>54290286
>>54290287
I'm fucking retarded, dunno why I remembered spellcombat as you cast and get an extra attack not a FULL ATTACK. Sorry my tardiness.

>Catfolk paladin
Doesn't work for me

>>54290309
Aren't there any bigger sourcebook fixes to this that might do it easier than this kind of "quick-and-dirty" fix? I'm all for giving some love to lower-tier classes, but I'd rather use something a little more substantial. Also I'm not too familiar with Kineticists, so I don't know how much this amps them up. Second opinions or a short TL;DR on effects of this would be appreciated.

I added this fix for the Eldritch Scion Magus archetype to the list. https://pastebin.com/CMinTJEB