EDH/Commander General /edhg/

>>54268307
>no discord link
God bless.

Worldly Tutor for Rec Sage at EoT after an Omen Machine came down.

sit down to play with dood.
me: you competitive or casual
dood: casual.

dood wips out azami mono counterspell deck.
guys

game two?

I pull out my better deck and he taps out turn 3.
me: Armageddon
we both have some rocks so no biggie.
dood proceeds to not draw lands for the next ten turns as I slow roll braking his lands as he plays them and destroying his rocks as they come in to play. he manages 3 lands and casts high tide, in response I destroy one of his islands.
he mutters something a bout LD not letting him play spells. I point out his deck is basically counterspell.deck

he becomes a pile of salt.

>>54268307
>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.
>going to die on upkeep to a mogis trigger because im at literally 1 life
>won every game that night at my lgs
>mogis player is wide open
>guy next to me swings at him with a 9/9
>tainted strike
>mogis player = dead
>dont die on upkeep
>draw debt to the deathless
>kill table
ha

Thank you OP, this is the first not-shit OP in a looong time. You've earned the right to make new threads whenever you want, as long as you use this power responsibly.

>t. Ancient Legendary OP

More like 'Discord shills BTFO" edition

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Explain to a dude here, why do we hate the discord? Is it because it becomes a circlejerk and inherently is basically a namefag gathering place? Or is it just generally useless? Just curious on this one, after seeing both sides bitch each other out for like two weeks of threads now.

>>54268883
Yes, people come here because they prefer anonymity. If they wanted names they could go to an actual forum.

>>54268916
Fair. I can't really argue with that. Does anyone at least try to organize a few online games? Or is it just cancer?

>>54268929
>playing on Cockatrice
>join game
>hey anon we're on discord, come join us and we'll start.

For fucks sake. I just want to play magic.

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>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.

>playing Erebos, God of the Dead after he just came out
>players read him since he just got printed
>One dude won't stop talking shit
>"So it's a bad Greed? Literally the worst god."
>T1 Dark Ritual, Buried Alive fetching Reassembling Skeleton, Braids, It That Betrays
>T2 Bring back Reassembling Skeleton
>duderino laughs and points out that Bloodghast is so much better
>T3 Victimize returning Braids and It That Betrays
>dudebro sitting next to me untaps, I remind him to sac a land
>reads Braids
>sacs one of his two lands
>I ask him to hand it to me
>he asks me why
>he reads It That Betrays
>smuganimegirl.jpg

I fucking hated that guy. Haven't seen him around in a while, I hope he moved to Antarctica.

>>54268929
There are a few games, but they're overwhelmed by the cancer. I'm just waiting for the drama.

>>54269042
So he was right about Erebos.

>>54268510
Fuck Azami.

>>54269070
The "Your opponents can't gain life." clause shuts down a ton of shenanigans, you virtually never have to recast him short of something like All is Dust, and the draw ability is a really great mana sink.

I don't run him anymore, but he's pretty great in a board control strategy.

I've been gone for a while.
What are the most relevant cards since Theros?

>>54269042
>Running black Bradis

I hope your table was aware and agreeing to this

>>54269177
It didn't used to be banned, kiddo.

>>54268307
oh, a not shit EDH general. Thank you OP, please do that again.

>>54268883
just look at the last OP. Shit theme, shit topic. That's every time a discord fag gets to create OP, they can't resist the urge to type something stupid.

>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.

I am the saltiest one in my group and all my salt is due to politics. I'm probably the most competitive-minded player in my group and the others tend to group up to beat me after midgame. (We're playing precons mostly so it's not like my deck is cancer or anything). Does anyone else has this issue?

>>54269162
Quite a lot actually.

Are you looking for something in particular?

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Question, Would a Mono-Green Stax work? If so, who would be the best commander for it?

i mean, smokestack + pick related + vomiting your lands sound cool

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>>54269162

>>54269278
green doesn't have the best staxing cards

white has lots

black has lots

green doesn't

however green can hate the fuck out of artifacts and enchantments, which kinda counts as stax i guess

>>54269195
I'm not 110% on my chronology, but I'm fairly certain Banned-As-Commander, where she was since time immemorial, was dead and its contents dumped on the vanilla ban list well before Theros

>>54269042
Interesting, conflicting salt piles.

>>54269278
Selvala to break parity with a ridiculous mana engine.
>>54269330
Root Maze.

>>54269278
That locus of mana bro is great, lets you stack your mana and get big guys out fast

>>54269278
Titania possibly, or go for a non threatening commander. Hall of gemstone is a must include.

>>54269200
>Does anyone else has this issue?
Used to, simply because I was the only one who ever responded to anything, and my kitchen table playgroup were all timmies with horrible threat assessment.

>>54268997
But cockatrice doesn't enforce rules. It streamlines everything to communicate verbally rather than text.

>>54268307
>OP question
Land+crypt into trinisphere three games in a row

>>54269278
Can't wait for Shadows over Innistrad to leave Standard

>>54269330
green can also support sac-happy stax by generating tokens and tax-happy stax with better-than-average ramp. It's probably the weakest stax color overall (though blue doesn't offer much directly either) but you can still pull off G/x Stax if you want.

Monogreen? It's interesting and doubtful, but I'd be more doubtful if I weren't kind of halfway there with my Freyalise Control build though. Most of the Stax package is artifacts and Freyalise shits out tokens that are also mana sources to stay ahead of the awfulness while potentially blowing shit up or drawing cards. In the end, I think you'd blur the line between true Stax and just hate cards.dec, but it could be fun.

>>54269448
yeah i think green is fine as a support color for stax but as a mono color it doesnt work imo

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>>54269331
>Theros Release Date- September 27, 2013
>Commander Banlist Update (Erayo, Rofellos, Braids)- September 2014

>>54269528
Well, fuck me up. Well played.

>>54269070
a bad green in the command zone is worth two greeds in the bush

>>54269661
*greed
fuck

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>>54269070
>indestructible greed that kills lifegain

>>54269661
>>54269070
>>54269042
erebos is indeed "worse" than greed in a vacuum. however, erebos has a few bonus things going for him that can tip the scales in its favor. he stops lifegain and is indestructible, both of which can be good stuff depending on your meta.

erebos can also be put in the command zone, thus allowing you to essentially guarantee that you'll have a place to dump your mana and draw cards, which means you don't have to worry about drawing too much mana/ramp or drawing too little draw/gas.

so all in all, erebos is good in the command zone but maybe not quite as good in the 99. i'd run greed over erebos in the 99.

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>playing with group
>random enters shop and buys some singles
>sits near us and kind of surveys the game while sleeving cards
>asks to play in next game
>"sure"
>plays r/w aurelia
>turn 6 he brings avacyn back from yard
>oh shit things are about to get spicy
>next turn he drops Armageddon
>our group kind of just look at each other
>"MLD, really"?
>yea lol do you all scoop?
>"no" path his avacyn
>he gets mad, starts bitching about how we are casuals
>asks to play again
>we to tell him no, we dont play with MLD
>he tells the shop owner and leaves
>we all laugh

MLD players are cancer.

Anyone know of some good sleeves and where I can get them? I've heard good things about the Ultra Pro Eclipse sleeves, but the red ones seem to be sold out and I can't find any of the others for MSRP.

>>54269837
matte dragon shields

>>54269813
Actually, you're the cancer in that situation. MLD is just another form of control and he actually had a plan for it unlike lolsorandumbfags who just blow up lands without a followup. If he hadn't played Avacyn he'd be a shitter. but instead it's just you guys being salty and refusing to let him play because you can't cope with his playstyle.

>>54269837
Matte Dragon Shields, though I haven't been able to find the Perfect Fits.

>>54269813
>spergs sperging at each other
Another peaceful day at the game shop and the world keeps spinning.

>>54269260
>>54269299
I ran quite a few decks, was just wondering how many universal staples had been introduced before I start delving through the past +1000 cards introduced.

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>>54269813
What about combo MLD?

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>>54269931
There are a few staples.

Do you have a ETB focused deck? pic related.


Do you have a storm/artifact/mana rock deck?
Check out Paradox Engine.

>>54269837
Dragon Shields. Don't have to be Matte but the mattes are mercifully less slippery

>>54269885
I really don't care for the Dragon Shield Perfect Fits.

>>54269813
nothing wrong with MLD
just things wrong with nerds
Nerds are cancer

>>54269837
DONT GET MATTE BLACK DRAGONSHIELDS THE NEW PRINTINGS ARE WORSE THAN ULTRA PRO QUALITY
OTHER COLORS/COMBINATIONS ARE FINE
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

>>54269813
MLD based Aurelia is probably the only decent deck in boros. He set up his win condition and used MLD for a huge benefit. You are the sperg in this situation excluding the path line.

>tfw completely ignored some threads ago
Suggestions please? ;_;
https://deckstats.net/decks/44776/661567-wort-

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Post best forests

>>54269881
>path avacyn
>not coping

Pretty sure he got btfo and then got even madder when he was told he cant play. Nobody likes MLD.

>>54270237
They're both spergs. Anon shouldn't have sperged out about the MLD and the Aurelia guy shouldn't have sperged out about losing to the Path

>>54270242
>https://deckstats.net/decks/44776/661567-wort-
you have a decent amount of gobbos but you have almost no interaction

be prepared to go straight for the win or be a sitting duck

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>>54270244
Shitty pic, but this one in 8th/9th edition.

>>54269813
This post makes me glad that I just build decks and don't play with anyone.

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>>54270244
thats a good forest
I like the invasion era borders but there are so few decent forests let alone with that border

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/30-06-17-GYN-sidisi-reanimator/
I could use some suggestions/feedback

>>54270102
>Exclusively use black matte dragon shield sleeves

pls be lyin

>>54270313
im not
im in the process of trying to get a refund

>>54270102
I'm in the market or red and either green or blue a the moment, so I should be fine. I have plenty of black Hyper Matte KMCs from when they were good.

>>54270252
No, thin skinned, "let me play my dragons" autists don't like MLD.

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I'm building Derevi right now. I already have a pretty miserable deck to play against (Teysa Edicts), so I'm wondering about fun things I can do. Bird/Wizard Tribal and flicker value seems like the route, rather than the typical stax build. Any suggestions?

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>>54270244
I'm a sucker for Innistrad lands

>>54270252
There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. It's no worse than counterspells or Stax. It's just another form of control via resource denial. It's pretty much the only way Boros can play control. If you know you're playing against MLD then pack answers against it. Any player worth their salt doesn't just crumple and die to it.

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>>54270244
Theros reporting in with a beautiful sunset

>>54270279
First EDH deck so yeah, I was expecting something like that
The good thing is that all of us are new to the format so I can expect relatively low power

It's a good thing that our local Johnny doesn't like EDH and is still trying to make Tiny Leaders work in the store

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>Playing my newly created Volrath deck
>One of my opponents is using an infinite life/infinite token combo deck
>I have Volrath out when his deck goes off
>During my turn I make Volrath Unblock-able
>Discard Draco
>mfw his face.

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>>54270244
The rest of you just... can't see the forest for the trees.

>>54270307
you're running a lot of mediocre cards that have direct upgrades

coffin queen
magus of the bazaar
satyr wayfinder
doomed necromancer
darksteel ingot
dance of the dead
abandon hope

plus a lot of other stuff that is just veering on the edge of mediocrity and decentness

heres my sultai reanimator list ive been working on
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sultai-bullshit-2/
>>54270332
how new are we talking? i got some black dragon sleeves at an european retailer about a month ago and they seem fine

>>54270307
>>54270415
also you're running 33 lands when you should be running like 38

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>>54270357
>>54270384
theros has some damn good lands too

/Edhg/,
How do I effectively stop storm (abzan colors) or storm myself (not ur or mono g)? My meta went from sideways to graveyard sideways ti just graveyard to storm and desu I'm kinda lost. My hatebears (sadly no Tegg, I know) in karador just don't do it and I can just jam all the bears w/o having to win myself.
Meta is Mizzix, G!Selvala, and nekusar/meren.

For storming myself I basicly can't grasp the playstyle but slinging xx spells a turn seems fun, bringing back the nostalgia of oldschool tcgs. Can you recommend me something that would fit? Just not super crazy money wise even tho proxies are allowed (but they have to become real cards over time)

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>>54270393
>local johnny trying to make tiny leaders work
I thought I was the only one

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>>54270244

>>54270415
>how new are we talking?
picked them up last week from a brand new case from a high traffic store

>>54270556
>tapland that makes one color and dies to board wipes

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>>54270415
>Calling Coffin Queen, Dance of the Dead, and Magus mediocre while running Ever After, Somberwald Sage

>>54270601
On the bright side, Green Sun's Zenith.

>>54270601
>goes infinite with Earthcraft

>>54270616
that's true, but I guess I'd rather use Green Sun's Zenith on something other than a land

>>54270643
You'll have to explain that one to me

>>54270643
Dryad Arbor isn't basic

>>54270613
Somberwald sage best waifu

>>54270643
>goes infinite with Earthcraft
Earthcraft can only untap basics, Anon.
And even if it could cause arbor to untap itself (as, you know, with an animated basic) I'm fairly certain that the result is infinite durdle unless you can trigger something when it becomes tapped or untapped..

>>54270661
Typically, yeah, you would want to. GSZ is usually best for pulling wincons or combo pieces, but a little bit of ramp when needed never hurts.

>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused
After dude casted doomsday and set off a combo planning to win with aetherflux reservoir and he had the smuggest look on his face I stifles his tower and he grabbed up shit shit and just walked out of the store
Also, another dude had avacyn as his commander and after making some dudes and such he dropped Avacyn and he casted Wrath of god "Alright in response Ill turn to frog Avacyn" He grabbed up his shit while telling me that its people like me why hes quitting

Never saw him again

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>>54270677
i know it doesnt work but there if it was a basic you could turn it into hermit druid 2.0

>>54270709
>He grabbed up his shit while telling me that its people like me why hes quitting
I sincerely hope to file this under "shit that never happened"

>>54270525
Rule of law

>>54270723
Swear to god it happened

>>54270713
>this would be a cool combo if the rules were different so it worked

>>54270613
apparently youre not very good at evaluating value and dont understand why those cards are bad, so let me break it down for you

coffin queen costs 3 mana to drop. then it needs a turn to recover from summoning sickness. then, you need to pay an additional 3 mana to reanimate something. you've now paid 6 mana to reanimate one thing at a one turn delay. now, if your coffin queen still isn't dead, you'll either untap and exile your guy or sac it, and then tap coffin queen again to reanimate something. you've now paid 4.5 mana to reanimate 2 things with an immensely frail and slow creature that dies to even a whiff of interaction. the creature also does nothing for you if you need to reanimate something immediately.

meanwhile, Ever After immediately reanimates 2 creatures for 3 mana each. you can argue that the fact that costs 6 mana is bad but coffin queen is still slower than it is.

dance of the dead is a mediocre card for edh because it's a sorcery speed single-target reanimation that has additional shithead clauses, like the fact that it comes tapped and you need to pay extra bullshit mana to untap it. if you want a cheap way to reanimate creatures for ETBs and such, corpse dance, Footsteps of the Goryo, victimize, etc. are better

magus is weak for the same reason coffin queen is, it needs a turn before it can tap, and it doesn't provide card advantage. there are much better looter effects in sultai colors.

somberwald sage is also a super powerful card and the fact that youre calling it bad is baffling to me

>>54270781
>t.johnny
reeeeee get out this is the timmy format REEEEEEEE

>>54270789
>Footsteps of the Goryo
actually this card is kinda weak

necromancy is a direct upgrade though

>>54270709
>doesnt play lapse of certainty in avacyn
fag is better off playing another game

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>>54270669
hands off, she's mine

I need mono white win combos. Currently only have rip + helm on my mind.

>>54270713
Earthcraft and any land animator will make mesmeric go off like you want, you just have to use one of a rather large number of cards in place of Arbor.

If you're really sneaky you might even be able to do more than just bin your library with the setup but binning your library is probably good enough.

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>>54271092
what legends can animate lands?
id look it up but im at work

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>>54271133
Look no further

>>54270994
Forced to live in the forest and wear one of those stupid tassel-veils because apparently there's no place in Innistrad for a busty redhead with a braid that would make most versions of Rapunzel jealous.

>>54271147
ok
we are playing mono green
your whole library is in your graveyard
now how do we win?

>>54270789
You don't understand the sheer value a coffin queen can create. Coffin queen isn't there so you can bring back some dumb beater one time, she's there so you can repeatedly, and I repeat, repeatedly abuse etb and death triggers for value and card advantage. You're also overstating how much a three mana investment to get back a large creature from your yard is, that's fairly par for course as far as inexpensive recursion effects go.

>an immensely frail and slow creature that dies to even a whiff of interaction.
Cool, if my opponents want to burn removal on her and not my sheoldred I'm fine with that.

>meanwhile, Ever After immediately reanimates 2 creatures for 3 mana each. you can argue that the fact that costs 6 mana is bad but coffin queen is still slower than it is.
Topkek mate. I'm not looking to spend my entire (usually) turn 5 reanimating two target creatures in my yard. I want to reanimate one very impactful creature early on, and coffin queen does so at least one turn earlier without any ramp.

>dance of the dead is a mediocre card for edh because it's a sorcery speed
Moot point. Most reanimation spells are sorcery speed, and the only good instant speed ones are few and far between.

>single-target reanimation
Also moot. I shouldn't have to reanimate multiple creatures to win, one should be enough. Reanimating a terastadon several times in a row will win me games easily.

>that has additional shithead clauses, like the fact that it comes tapped and you need to pay extra bullshit mana to untap it.
ETB tapped is literally irrelevant unless you play in a aggro infested meta where your opponents actually use the combat step like the plebeians they, and apparently you are if you're spending mana to untap the creature.

Also fucking kek at the fact you're shitting on Magus and Coffin queen because they need to untap in order to be useful and therefore too slow, yet you ride somberwald sage's dick.

>>54271185
Well shit.

Concordant Crossroads+something that makes tokens based on critters on grave? Spider Spawning is BG but primarily G so there must be a similar effect in monoG

>>54270369
MLD is resource denial.
Not all resource denial is MLD.

Dont pretend they are the same. You can still play after having a spell countered. Not after your lands are wiped.

>>54271152
maybe she lives in the forest because she likes nature and wears the tassel-veil because she's pure

>>54271185
>Creeping Renaissance
effectively tutor up every creature from your yard to your hand
>>54271212
>concordant crossroads
shit.. maybe you have to flashback and hit enchantments instead

>>54271147
I'd run this in w/g Sisay with paradox engine and wrath of god.

>>54271218
You if you're playing mana rocks. And MLD is still possible to counteract or play against. It takes setup to use effectively, which is why it should have a bigger impact than a one-off counterspell that can be used without any setup. If someone playing an MLD deck tries to cast, say, Armageddon without some way to prevent their stuff from dying or without mana rocks then they'll be set back just as much as you.

>>54271133
Noyan Dar

Made some changes to my Sidisi deck. Posting the Xmage file because I don't want to edit it on TappedOut right now
https://pastebin.com/QAUZFB6F

>>54268510

I mean not drawing lands at all after being somewhat well equipped to recover from Armageddon with rocks in play is a pretty reasonable reason to be salty

Saying your deck is casual then playing azami is kinda awkward though. Like maybe your azami list isn't tuned but it's still a little weird

>>54271347
oh shit that might actually be better than mono green

>>54271426
But Noyan Dar is UW, or are you planning on dropping Earthcraft?

>>54271475
wow
got way too excited
didnt even realize it

>>54270723
That's why I no longer pay attention to whining, someone will no matter what.

>>54271133
Kamahl, Fist of Krosa

>>54271554
waaay better than the other one

>>54271191
>You don't understand the sheer value a coffin queen can create

there are better ways of recurring creatures repeatedly and gaining value from a single card.

coffin queen has a few niche uses that make her unique, which is the fact that she's 3 mana permanent that can recur repeatedly, but that's not enough to make her good

>Cool, if my opponents want to burn removal on her and not my sheoldred

except that's not how it works. no one is going to bolt your coffin queen with lightning bolt. however, she might die to an errant board wipe meant for something else. or she might get hit by inferno titan etb's. or someone just plays a fleshbag marauder on curve after you. there's a billion things that can go wrong with playing coffin queen, but very little that can go wrong with playing a sorcery that does something immediately. my coffin queen died within 1 turn almost always

>I want to reanimate one very impactful creature early on, and coffin queen does so at least one turn earlier without any ramp

then use a 2, 3 or 4 mana reanimation spell that does it guaranteed. coffin queen's reanimation is extremely telegraphed and not something you want to rely on to win

>Moot point. Most reanimation spells are sorcery speed, and the only good instant speed ones are few and far between.

yes, which is why a reanimation spell should either be cheap, instant, multi-target to justify itself. dance of the dead fails at being each one.

>I shouldn't have to reanimate multiple creatures to win, one should be enough

except if you reanimate terastodon with phyrexian delver, you can get 2 terastodon etbs. or if you reanimate it with deadeye navigator then you'll get a lot more. dont be a moron and claim that reanimating 2 creatures immediately is somehow retarded

>yet you ride somberwald sage's dick

because she's a mana dork that costs no investment besides the 3 mana, and she basically pays herself back the first time she taps. coffin queen does not.

I'm trying to build my first EDH deck, a tribal mono-black Vampire one
Are there cards that I can add to get some field control, like destroying enchantment/artifact and things like that?

>>54271629
in mono black you will not be interacting with enchantments unless you play smokestacks or hailfire

>>54271629
if you're in monoblack then your only ways of interacting with enchantments/artifacts should be colorless board wipes. anything else is trash. all is dust, boompile, nevi disk, oblivion stone. but honestly you're just as well off just ignoring enchantments completely and just work on making your deck good otherwise.

>>54271679
This. Don't try and do what other colors do, but worse, because it takes away space for your color's strong points and strategies. It's not worth trying to cover up your deck's weaknesses with exceedingly inferior options because they'll tend to be unfavorable topdecks in the best of situations, anything less and they're worthless (and usually overcosted). That's why people usually o for at least 2 colors. You can cover a lot more with them.

>>54271742
Black shits mana, playing ulamog, ugin and aids isnt a stretch for black.

>>54270415
>mediocre
>dance of the dead
After Reanimate, Animate Dead, and Necromancy maybe.
>inb4 someone says Exhume

>>54271876
Black only ramps hard if you get out something like Cabal Coffers or, to a lesser extent, you use Dark Ritual. That being said, those cards also have other purposes than just hitting artifacts/enchantments. Ulamog is also a beefy beater and Ugin is pure value that any deck would likely benefit from having.

>>54270352
I built bird tribal and shoved a big load of anthems in it, so it has a minor enchantment subtheme. The deck was sub-$100, and does well in a ~50% meta. Derevi carries the deck full of mediocre cards into being competent. I recommend rocks/lands that tap for >1 mana and stuff with good tap effects to synergize with Derevi, Crookclaw Elder has been pretty decent.

>>54270352
Also heres my decklist, the landbase has been upgraded, but i dont remember with what.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/b-i-r-d-b-o-y-s-1/

>>54271622

Not that guy, you guys are both wrong. Coffin queen is passable but mediocre, same with somberwald sage

Dance of the dead on the other hand is very good

>>54271930
Do you not have tutors in black to get double mana?

>>54272181
You won't always have them. To get that double mana, you're banking on getting any of about 4-5 cards from your 99. Odds won't always be in your favor.

>>54272244
Get a hyper geometric calculator, with all the playable tutors in mono black you have an 88% chance of having cabal coffers by turn 2 of you want it.

>>54272244
>You won't always have them
you should be drawing enough cards in mono black to all but ensure that you will
but then again the inconsistent nature of commander is part of why 75% commander is fun (though I still play cEDH myself its just not as fun imho)

>>54272406
>75% commander
>cEDH

I'm basically a noob. What do those stand for?

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>>54272433

>>54272433
cEDh is basicly legacy singleton
75% is love/hate philosophy that your deck is finely tuned battlcruiser. Isn't totally unfun for casuals but 'can hold it's own against cEDH' assuming that they don't mulligan bad hand I guess

>>54269813
You are such a whiny fag.
Stop whinging because someone uses cards you don't like.

>>54272482
what would flavor mean in this case? lore cards? i'm unfamiliar with the term

>>54272550
Cards that follow a theme for your deck, rather than the best cards. If you're playing vampires, throwing in a zombie card just because it has a nice effect wouldn't be flavorful

>>54270352
Coastal Piracy Tribal with Edric Flying men Subtheme

Pack some nice equipment for derevi for that comander damage win as back up.

>>54272550
it can mean lore stuff, like playing liliana themed cards in a liliana deck. but in this case it can also be just interesting interactions and plays. winning by copying solemn simulacrum 8 times is a flavorful way of winning the game, in my eyes at least. meanwhile, infinite comboing with mikaeus and triskelion is not

>>54272588
Copying Solemn isn't flavorful, nor is it fun.

>>54272611
>Giving the lonely sadbot friends isn't fun or flavorful

It's like you don't believe in the power of friendship

>>54269278
You can try crucible+strip mine azusa stacks

Also I know mos tof y'all REEEEE at MLD but what about targeted land destruction?

>>54272550
It could be doing a weird tribe like pirates that is fun but not powerful.

>>54272687
>It could be doing a weird tribe like pirates that is fun but not powerful.
Than this fall's set drop and Pirates become the new meta

>>54272498
>can hold it's own against cEDH
this is what they try to do but because its such a fast format it never works out that way
thats why I keep several decks that vary between 75% and cEDH.
>>54272550
"Flavor" can mean that they built the deck with a specific theme but 90% of the time they just want to justify having a poorly operating deck.
also that graph is nowhere near accurate
most fun you will have playing edh is still about 75% powerlevel but playing stuff like pauper or intentionally bad edh is straight up boring as fuck. EDH as a multiplayer format takes a lot of time already, no reason why you need to makes it drag on longer.

Starcity games is a good example of decks that could be called "flavorful" but man playing with those decks must be a pain in the neck, same goes for the mtggoldfish crowd but at least they keep a decent pace even in the lowest power level games.

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>>54272611
o rly

>>54272660
More like continually murdering/reanimating the Simulacrum's dead family in front of their eyes, dooming them to an joyless existence of terra-forming your estate and having their brains eaten.

>>54272498
>cEDh is basicly legacy singleton
Depends on the deck. Prossh and Tazri revolve around their commander. Yisan and Azami rely on them. Jeleva and Zur might as well just announce their color combos.

>>54272886
>Jeleva and Zur might as well just announce their color combos.
of the competitive decks that dont use the commanders actually these do get cast pretty frequently, usually after the first round of combos fails to fire
Jeleva and Zur particularly have the ability to single handedly go from 0 gas to full hand of gas in a single attack

>>54270556
is this card actually good for anything?

>>54272950
It has a CMC of 0, so you can Forest, GSZ, or pitch it and reanimate it with Meren and no counters.

>>54270525
anon here

I think I'll do black storm, but I don't know if I'd do Maralen or Sidisi ANT or Razaketh . Is it sensible to do such a deck? I'll won't have access to the most expensive pieces like LED, mox diamond/opal so I'm pulling at straws.

>>54272950
Not sure in EDH, but it's fucking strong in Legacy Elves. It can be gotten with fetches for weird shenanigans, Green Sun's Zenith on 0, and more.

>>54272950
yes
gsz for 0 is a good play
sacing it to something like pod or evolutionary leap is great
its a creature for 0
never want to see it in your opener though

>>54273005
If your opponents are already playing storm then playing Maralen is a terrible idea. Best case scenario they grab their Swords to Plowshares, worst case scenario they grab their missing combo piece.

>>54272950
Yes, turns gsz into 1 mana ramp, can be tutored for with creature tutors if you really need a land drop, and can be fetched at instant speed if you need a blocker.
That's not counting the fact that it can be pumped and turned sideways for damage.

>>54273054
I'm currently the only white player, no one else bothers with it, I'd do BR but it doesn't really have any commanders w/o heavy use of doomsday

Any tips for making this better?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-07-17-OMO-kruphix-god-of-horizons/

>>54273290
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-07-17-OMO-kruphix-god-of-horizons/

no chill omnath?

>>54273105
Why not just play mono black doomsday and join the fun squad?

Just bought a revised Plateau from TCGPlayer from a high rated seller for my Boros deck. What's the chance it might be a fake? Or is there even a point in faking a revised Plateau?

>>54273397
It would just be Mike and kike, wouldn't it?

>>54272482

I do not like this graph.

For one thing, I'd roll Group Hug in with the Intentional Awfulness and Chaos Novelty Zone. That's what Group Hug and Kingmaker is. Intentionally bad decks designed not to win.

Pauper I can't speak on.

Flavor is tangentially relevant at best. Really shouldn't even be a consideration. "Mechanically interesting" is probably a better gauge of how "fun" a deck is. I'd rather see some clever token shenanigans or weird tribal deal than play a "flavorful" but mechanically boring slogfest. I mean, flavor's neat, but the "fun" I derive from a game of EDH doesn't come from "Oh look, he's playing a lot of Orzhov Syndicate-themed cards!", it comes from the plays that the deck makes. Decks with a lot of win conditions and a lot of interaction, even if they don't follow a flavorful "theme", are the most fun to play against.

Also, are "High Power" and "Low Power" relative to the group? They should be.

>>54269813
just wanted to say that MLD is cancer

>>54273397
Also we have very active Nekusar player so any wheel kills me

>>54273406
Plateau is generally the cheapest of the ABUR duals because red and white mana are not in as high demand as blue black or green. If you were faking cards you'd get a much better profit out of faking Underground Seas, and if you were looking for a high profit but low scrutiny you'd probably fake a Tundra or Scrubland. You should be safe, and if it's a good fake just run it anyway.

>>54273439

MLD is a tool that can be used for good or evil. MLD with a plan is a win condition like any other. MLD without one is just bad for everyone.

The problem isn't MLD. The problem is players who don't understand how to use MLD.

>>54273406
I don't think TCG Player sells fakes. Compare it to some other revised cards if you want to feel more confident.

>>54273439
just wanted to say that you are a faggot

>>54273433
yeah i agree with most of that. i need to remake the fun graph at some point.

i originally intended "group hug" here as the "help other people politically sometimes but still try to win" like what gahiji decks often do with insurrections and mob rules

same thing with flavor, i originally meant it as interesting mechanics (spicy cards and plays)

>>54273406
There are fake Plateaus. Bootleg sellers have all of the original duals and prefer to sell them as a set. You should easily be able to identify fakes though, just google it.

>>54269042
>Generic mono-black combo means commander is good

wut

>>54273622
I think anon meant the guy was just a dick.

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>Want a playmat to match with my deck
>Avacyn for Kaalia
>All official Avacyn mats are sold out everywhere online, zero listings. Both Angel of Hope variants and Archangel // Purifier
>Find someone selling what amounts to a bootleg for Purifier online
>Buy it, comes in blurry
>Wasn't expecting much, it was 15 dollars
>Ask what res the artist used, it was fairly low res
>find the highest res available online, change the dimensions for playmat and email it to inkedgaming.
>get an email about a day later saying they can't print it because of copyright
>find a custom playmat seller who doesn't care about copyright
>playmat comes out worse than the one I originally bought
>email ultra pro asking if there's fucking anything they can do, pretty much knowing they can't but couldn't hurt to ask
>they can't because they print playmats in quantities of like 5,000 and can't do custom orders
Just end my life.

>>54271622
>dance of the dead fails at being each one.
You know DotD is two mana right?

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>>54268307
Alright, I'm building teysa sac.dec.

I still need some finishers, any suggestions?

>>54273787
https://www.magiccardmarket.eu/Products/Playmats/Shadows+over+Innistrad%3A+%22Archangel+Avacyn+%2F+Avacyn%2C+the+Purifier%22+Double-Sided+Playmat

If you are willing to pay for international shipping one of them would cost probably around what you paid combined.

>>54272498
I feel like the mass majority of cEDH decks are combo or stax (sometimes a mix of the two). Also they love thrasios.

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Anyone had any experience with Vizier of Tumbling Sands as ramp in non-G decks? Is it as good as I think it is?

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>>54268307
>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.

Everytime my Avacyn succeeds to boardwipe/worldslayer the board and I slowly kill the players that didn't concede by that point

Who is the best Abzan commander for goodstuff?

>>54274062
Guess your opponents don't have any hope left after that.

>>54274071
Karador or Ghave

>>54274071
Karador

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>>54274081
They didn't like how I unmade the board so they anguished about it.

>>54273990
Just run Dramatic Reversal fucko.

>>54274124
That art though

>>54274071
Anafenza, just because she won't draw the same hate as Karador or Ghave, while not being as bad as Daghatar.

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Hey any thoughts on this?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/momirs-toolbox-wip/

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>>54274120

>>54268307
>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.
Not really a play, but the first night I played Godo many moons ago caused some serious salt. It was the first deck in the group that wasn't made out of leftover pack fodder after 60-card decks, and god damn did it whup ass. Between the MLD and absurdly powerful Godo I ended up with, my group didn't know what hit them.

Some of its parts are in other decks now, but I'm gonna bring that deck out of retirement. I loved it.

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>>54274120
Guess you slayed their world.

>>54273910
Got my hopes up but they don't ship to the US.

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>>54274303
>>54274214
>>54274120
Somebody post the hot-dog one

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>>54274120

>>54271288
And some people don't find that setback fun. What is so difficult to understand about this?

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>>54274120
Was just in Bali and this is what they have on their smokes.
This guy looks like he's about to tutor a win con look at this

>>54274303
I love this one

>>54274310
You can always contact them, the website doesn't allow US shipping in options, but you can usually arrange something with the seller. If you really want it and there aren't any e bay listings thats probably your best shot.

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>>54269278
titania, I ran mono G stax for a while, was pretty great. had to dismantle it because playgroup was getting tired of losing to the mono G land destruction guy.
I think my favorite moment was probably when I told the UW control player I was gonna counter his Supreme verdict then animated all lands with a natural affinity
Lemme see if I got a list lying around.

>>54274564
And? If the player using MLD can win off of it then it's a valid tactic. It's no worse than playing stax or any other kind of control. People find different things fun. There's nothing inherently wrong with MLD other than that it rustles the jimmies of Timmies.

>>54274728
Never mind. I found one for Archangel // Purifier on ebay for 60 dollars. I don't know how I missed it before I went on my autistic quest to try and find one, but I'm glad I'll have it.

>>54274583
I would so photoshop a cig on the diabolic tutor art with the skeleton if I wasn't so lazy

>>54269278
>>54274843
haven't even read the thread properly, not sure if it's pointless now but i'm typing up the list because it is probably my favorite deck i've ever played. always a different experience

just typed it up for you guys baked fresh with love and sprinkles
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-07-17-LMA-titania/

>>54271059
what's rip + helm?

>>54275155
Rest in Peace, Helm of Obedience

>>54275155
Rest in Peace/Helm of Obedience. Instamill combo.

i thought promos were double the price of their counterparts usually?
batterskull, stoneforge promos and others are just 2$ more than reg

Speaking of Helm, what happens if you Wheel and Sun and Moon someone then Helm?

>>54275171
The most widely distributed promo cards aren't really available in lower quantities than their pack counterparts, so the price isn't spiked up. Batterskull and Stoneforge aren't really in huge demand either.

>>54275171
>batterskull, stoneforge promos
They hand the GP promos out like candy at those events, and there's a lot of GPs every year. I've got 5 Progenitus just from GP Vegas.

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>>54275171
A good deal of people dislike the SFM promo because the art doesn't feel "Stone forger-y" enough for them and I kinda agree but I think its beautiful. Her art should have been given to Ayli desu senpai

>>54275306
>Her art should have been given to Ayli desu senpai
Hell no. Ayli is subservient to the Eldrazi, while the art in the promo shows her dominant over a felled Eldrazi.

>>54268774
>Tee hee look at me

Go to Hell shitcunt

>>54275347
The promo art looks like a cleric. Not a forger of weapons. The eldrazi in question could have easily been propped to show a mutualism between the two. subjects. I'm not sure where you're getting 'felled' from that depiction. It looks more like a slug and doesn't appear wounded.

>>54275417
Look how limp it is. There is no motion, no life in it when compared to the other Eldrazi which usually look pretty alive. I'm not saying that the promo art makes a good SFM, but she doesn't fit the picture of Ayli at all, who is generally exalted in the presence of the Eldrazi. The promo art looks worried, not like she's in a religious fervor.

Stax is really the best way to play control in multiplayer EDH, isn't it? Draw-land-go seems like it'd be tough with 3 other people bearing down on you

>>54274854
And it's not people's responsibility to tolerate games they don't find fun. Bitch all you want about how valid it is but if people don't like it they won't play with you. I still can't get what you autists don't understand about this.

>>54275306
i see, I really like the promo batterskull because you can actually tell whats goign on

>>54275621
That's all fine and dandy, but don't pretend for even a second that what the people in that greentext wasn't the result of them being salty over being unable to cope with a perfectly valid playstyle. I don't even play it myself, but if I play against someone using it then I shrug and cope with it like I would any other deck. Do you freak out when someone brings any kind of control deck to the table, or just MLD? They accomplish the same thing.

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Who else anxiously expecting for the new Commander products?

I can't wait to play Taigam Voltron/Control. Something of a hybrid between Dragonlord Ojutai and Geist of Saint Traft.

>>54275745
>voltron
>when its made for spellslinger
fuck off

>>54275768
Who cares what it was "made for"? The fun is what you make of it.

>>54275768
>He doesn't play Wort the Raidmother Voltron

>>54275768
Shu Yun is a Voltron AND a spellslinger

It can be done

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What are the feelings on this?

>>54275898
Triple white hurts hard.

>>54275898
Strictly better planar cleansing

>>54275898
Strict upgrade over Planar Cleansing in all cases barring Boseiju, Who Shelters All

>>54275768
lol you remind me of thst guy bringing that 4 color thopter lady deck.
"my deck is different from all others"
me is it aggro?
_you'll see.
proceeds to play nothing but the same artifacts every artifact deck plays.

it's ok to make fun decks guys.

I remember playing against blue braids deck and the whole pod kept shit hands with huge spells. on turn 2 the pilot could cast it and we were all ready for funsies. but that's when we realized he trolled us hard. his deck did not played the commander and was built as hard control.

I want to make a deck that punishes non interactive decks.
I want to createa super hostile environment.
I'm playing hunted wumpus and threaten effects is there any other effects that are similar and lets people get treaths out?
Also master Warcraft or illusionist gambit or stuff like that.

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Favorite mechanic in MTG?

I love Buyback.

>>54276074
Show and Tell
Gate to the Aether
Braids, Conjurer Adept

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>>54276089
Conspire.

>>54276089
Protection, followed shortly by Banding

>>54276089
Haste. Prowess is also really cool, for a recent one.

>>54275352
>this rustled 7 hours later
Hilarious.

>>54276089
A tie between Conspire and Cycling for me

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>>54276089
bestow, or devotion

>>54276089
Double strike, followed by Whither, followed by investigate. I wish they did more with it, it would be a fantastic evergreen mechanic.

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>>54275745
Unless that leak was proved to be fake, so far out of 4 we have
>5C dragons
>Selesnya Cats
>Simic Merfolk
There's a very high chance that black or red gets shafted.

Fuck me, it's going to be minotaurs isn't it?

>>54276247
GOBLINS

>>54276247
merfolk? how

>>54276247
>Simic Merfolk

Did I miss something? The Merfolk was from Ixalan sheet unless there is another one.

>>54276247
>>54276274
Pfft. Definitely Grixis horrors. I bet it would be both strong and fantastically flavourful.

>>54276294
likely talking out of his ass. its going to be humans and spirits

>>54276298
I would never play anything but this if they made it a thing.

>>54276294
My bad, I'm retarded. It was from the Ixalan sheet.

>>54276309
>>54276247
I personally want either Soldiers or, in atonement for that abortion of a precon in 2015, Giants

>>54276089
Lifelink, followed closely by imprint even if it costs muh card advantage.

I have complex, mostly positive, feeling for flying.

>>54276074
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?text=+%5B"attack+"%5D+%5B"if+able"%5D

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=+[Tap]+[creature]+[didn%27t]+[attack]||type=+[Tap]+[creature]+[didn%27t]+[attack]||subtype=+[Tap]+[creature]+[didn%27t]+[attack]||text=+[creature]+[didn%27t]+[attack]

>>54276316
Imagine a cross between feldon and Havengul lich but for horrors, and it can copy/create a token from your hand or yard with haste.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blue-is-the-warmest-color-1/
I really suck at making cuts, somebody willing to help me with my Braids, conjurer adept? The deck isn't supposed to be a powerhouse, I know I could/should have added the Eldrazi fathers/mothers. I tried to stay under 10 bucks a card for most of them. I rarely play blue, and I guess I have quite a few counterspells to much?

>>54276089
Annihilator.

Parley is fun tho.

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>>54276089
Phasing

>>54275768
You might as well be swinging for good damage. The rebound triggers let you be a lot more long-term than most Tron builds can afford to be with extra indestructible effects and doubled removal, as well as Azorius lacking a lot of the direct burn slinger decks like to have from black or red.

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>>54276089

>>54276420
>Fireshrieker
>Stolen Identity
>Thassa's Rebuff
>Spell Rupture
>Dispersal Shield
>Voidmage Prodigy
>Strata Scythe
>Rhystic Study
>Vizier of Many Faces
>Brainstorm
>Ponder
>Cryptoplasm
>Hinder
This is probably where I'd personally start. You're right in that you do have too many counters.

>>54276089
Dethrone
Focusing on person down is almost always the best solution if you actually use your attack step. But it makes me feel like an asshole. Incetivising spreading the love with something like the Black Rose let's me spread the love without feeling like I am going to lose because I am not an asshole.

Its also fun politically, since sometimes people will attack each other and avoid attacking me so I can't get triggers.

>>54275745
oh... so that's what i'm going to do with this blue white mana base

>>54276636
Blue White just has so many great options, it's unfair. GAAIV for Stax, Ephara for Tempo, Brago for whatever you want, Daxos for Voltron, Bruna for Voltron Stax, Spirit Tribal, Merfolk Tribal, Flying Tribal, Bird Tribal, Hanna for Artifacts, Gwafa for Politics, and now Taigam. I'm having a hard time pulling myself away from the color combo.

>>54276089

Cascade
Retrace
Future sight/oracle of mul daya/vizier of the menagerie

>>54276784
What would you wanna give rebound in U/W though?

>>54276945

What kind of stupidass question is this? Not even going to dignify it with an answer

I am thinking about taking apart my sheoldred deck because my friends hate playing against it and its not quite strong enough to be super competitive so i want to scrap it and build a couple new decks with the parts
The problem is that it is my first real tuned deck and i have been working on it for years so it has a lot of sentimental value to me

Anyone else ever experience this problem?

>>54276945
gee i dunno taking turns?

I don't know what to do with Saskia

currently I'm playing a 4c enchantment deck(also my first EDH deck), but usually what ends up happening is that I get a bunch of scary looking enchantments out (like True Conviction + Heliod), but before I have the opportunity to do much I usually get by the riku or prossh player in my group

how do I balance the enchantment part and actually doing things

>>54273424
No, I have a build that uses hellcarver demon, usually reanimated, + doomsday to stack sudden spoiling> repay in kind, > pain's reward, >platinum angel
for an instant win. It's janky, and the deck has other win cons but it's fun when I manage it.

>>54276089
Regenerate

>>54277018
Got a list? I run Blaxos with a reanimator/zombie backup theme to my enchantments.

>>54277067
I want your list.

>>54277137
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/daxos-the-interred/

>>54276089
>for EDH
monarch

>for regular magic
probably storm

>>54276784
oh holyshit sygg looks fun
i may build that

>>54276980
>>54277007
Who would wanna sit there for 10 mins as you take for 5 turns in a row jacking off?

>>54277249
Use things like Quicksilver Fountain. Make them all Islands and walk all over them.

>>54277274

You can scoop

>>54276436
I love your gif and your choice of mechanic, marry me.

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What are some good combos for this?

I already got fireball+desperate ritual+reiterate for wins, but is there any shenanigans I can throw in for fun, its in my mizzix deck btw

>>54277884
i am also interested in this.

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Old
>Dynamic angle
>Versatile color palette
>Badass goblin man commanding a goddamn dragon to annihilate his adversaries
>Communicates power
>Single printing

New
>Boring symmetrical front view
>Dark and drab color focus dominated by red
>Mutant turtle ripping an atomic fart
>Communicates nothing other than Wizards' disdain for the playerbase
>Three printings in relatively quick succession

>>54277982

>three printings in relative quick succession

That just makes it that much more awesome to have the original

>>54277884
Mystical Tutor+Reset+Reiterate is the usual one, if I don't have an outlet for the infinite mana, I play Melek though, so Mystical putting it on top is really good. If I have an outlet for the mana I get Swan Song at cmc1.
The other one I go for is Brainstorm+Reset+Whir of Invention
Using Brainstorm to put Reset and Whir on top, casting it off the top with Melek doubled for a ton of mana and then doubling Whir to find Gilded Lotus and Paradox Engine and start going off that way.

>>54277982
Multiple printings in quick succession fits the card perfectly though

>>54277982
i like the original one but the focus is a bit messy. the dragon in the back is a bit too attention grabbing and the rocks in the foreground really blend into the background.

i'm not wild about the other one but it has a lot more punch to it.

>>54277067
I'll post it during the next thread because I'm high as balls

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>>54277018
If we don't get a good multi-color warrior tribal commander soon I'm going to use her for that. It's such a shame she's a soldier and not a warrior.
>inb4 smiley tranny
She doesn't bring enough back. 2 power is a rather large restriction in a warrior deck. And the 4c splash means I can run green for things like warden of the first tree or champion of lambholt and den protectors and such. Point at pillowfort fags and laugh as their stack of enchantments can't save them now.

>>54275534
>Look how limp it is

That's what she said?

Any fun Enchantments that I could pack in Zur? I want some funky stuff.

>>54278445
Riptide Chimera.

>>54278303
Why would anyone say Alesha anyway? She's a combo/value engine, something most warriors are terrible at.

Who should I use as commander of my "in your starting hand" tribal deck? Leylines, Chancellors, Gemstone Caverns, etc.

>>54278750
Something 5C, I like Cromat

>>54278553
I'm trying to make her as an aggro combo breaker toolbox. I need some good aggro threats. will she work with malignus?

>>54278795
No. * values are dynamic and checked in every zone (unless the highest life value for your opponents is less than or equal to 4)

>>54278795
Raving dead & Master of Cruelties are your best bet.

>>54278795
Ebonblade Reaper is something to consider

>>54268307
>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.

I recently moved and went to a nearby shop for the first time. The edh night had no buy in and I thought it would be fun to play in a meta that isn't hyper competitive.

The guys at the new shop were all playing real casual stuff so I thought my new budget Samut Legendary tribal would work perfectly. They all said they didnt use infinite combos or stax so it was really the only deck I could use.

Three games in a row I tutored out Heartless Hidgetsu with Samut down and even got my Thousand Year Elixir in there. I didnt even win, I just brought people down to 10 and 5 health or lower and others won with shitty beaters (besides the one time Samut got through on someone with 5 left)

I guess there games usually take at least an hour but we flew three games in twenty minutes. They were two 3 player games and a 4 player game.

Afterwords when we were chatting about our decks they were all extremely salty and told me Heartless was "a bit too oppressive" when he is "built around like that."

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>>54276089
Eternalize.

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>>54279058
I play a budget Samut deck too, its a pretty fun meme.
Sometimes it just pops off.
I went more combat oriented sometimes just straight up win with commander damage.
Just remember to fix the image. Pic related are the ones I have tried

Would rather have art from a gold card so it fits better, new flavor text would be good but has to match the art I choose./spoiler]

>be playing edh for the first time ever in paper
>using my budget newzuri deck
>against locusts god and ojutai
>locusts god has a billion tokens thanks to wheels
>ojutai has blank board
>make wood elves a 3/3 with ezuri and swing at ojutai
>he gets mad and spends the rest of the night only going after me. Saving his ckinterapells to hit ezuri, only using removal on my creatures

Well that wasn't very fun

>>54279211
*counterspells

>>54268307
>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.
They aren't even my plays I am just a terrible back-seat player when I see my group having horrible threat assessment.
They think I am lying and tricking them into letting me get away with something.

>>54279204
Honestly the Samut art isn't that bad
jk it's horrendous

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>>54272550
Rakdos having a party with his big scary friends.

Are the Amonkhet monuments worth running at all?

>>54279679
Oketra and Rhonas ones are.

>>54279679
Oketra's, maybe Bontu's.

>>54279679
oketra is a legit token generator. the others are too inefficient at the ramp they provide

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>>54269881
>>54270004
>>54270068
>>54270237
>>54270267
>>54270349
>>54270369
>>54271288
>>54272518
>>54273488
>>54273534
>>54274854
No, I'm pretty sure MLD is bullshit.

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>>54276089
Infect

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>>54270357
I agree. This one is beautiful.

>>54279859
I bet you don't play with counterspells either, don't want people disrupting your safe space or ever interacting with you

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>>54270357
>tfw 2.5 each for foil

Should I run 'Marchesa, the Black Rose" or "Gwendlyn di Corci" as my commander? I want to make an annoying grixis deck.

What's a good commander to mill people out with?

Also locusts god is nuts

>>54280302
I don't see how either of those is annoying

>>54280629
Marchesa with Grave Betrayal and some field wipes can be pretty mean.

>>54280655
That's a really slow set up for grixis. My marchesa deck doesn't even run anything above 6 CMC. Lack of green hurts, and you really don't want to be running ramp over 6 cmc.

>>54280693
Ramp over 2 CMC* fuck, I have sleep fingers

I'm a noob just bought in big with commander anthology. FLGS has a "casual commander" day and I plan on participating with Evasive Manuvers. How fucked am I?

>>54280783
If it's stock your probably completely fucked. If you have added like 20$ worth of shit to it you might be better off.

Assuming they aren't playing competitively that is. If there is prize support on the line I wouldn't bother with the whole thing. Then people are likely to bring something that kills the table around turn 3, and those precons don't have shit to help you there.

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>Give us your story of plays and the massive salt they've caused.

Dropped this card against Azami. Backed it up with Pyroblast when they tried to counter it.

>>54280783
The Derevi deck seemed pretty weak out of the box.

If it's just an event to play a bunch of games, you'll probably have fun. If you're playing for anything, you might get frustrated.

>>54280693
Three mana rocks that aren't Coalition Relic are really overrated.

I see people unironically running Manalith still. Some might say this is due to having a small budget, but there are a huge amount of good rocks that are all under $1-2.

>>54280981
Chromatic Lantern pulls serious weight quite often, even in my 90% meta

New thread
>>54281636
>>54281636
lazy cunts

>>54281463
>90% meta
I hate all this "%" meta bullshit. It doesn't tell you anything about the power level of decks. 90% what, skeleton ship? What's the 10% you are missing?

I understand that usually when people say "75%" they mean not competitive and not craw wurm.dec, but the number that comes before the % doesn't really have any meaning that you could communicate.
I wish someone would come up with a better term, as is we get asshats that say they have an 86% deck and get upset when you can't gauge whatever their power level is when you want to play.

>>54277390
Cunt.