Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1605: Cocaine Edition

obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVka5T5hC88

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>>54268106
Did someone say COCAINE?

>>54268106
Redsid best sid. Mainly because Battlefield-Ballroom has so many uses it's hilarious. Especially when you use it to do battlefield -> bedroom.

Also the magic cocaine is pretty useful too.

>>54268069
That implies that you ship yourself with real people that you DO know.
That's even creepier DESU.
Also, fuck off Tera

>>54268106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bEUaeG4wH4

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>>54268199
hell yeah I ship myself with people I know, it's called dating...

>>54268239
That's...not what shipping means

Have you ever turned off your power until the last minute to make fights more dramatic?

>>54268255
then we are operating Off of different definitions Because I am A true fay who doesn't understand humanity at all. Again

>>54268278
No. You're just an idiot hiding behind your supposed problems as a shield to hide the fact that you're an idiot

>>54268269
No, that's dumb.

Last second power-ups out of nowhere are stupid.

>>54268269
Nah, that's just cheap and boring. Much more fun to hold back at first and then go all out just when they think they're winning, or at least on equal footing.

I am debating on whether my Jumper should learn Fuinjutsu or not, should they?

>>54267387
>I thought it was done.
It is done, but something something Captain Brutus something something IRC Mafia

It went through several revisions and the jumpmaker considered Home Improvement jump done, but it is in the WIP folder also.

>>54268269
>Have you ever turned off your power until the last minute to make fights more dramatic?
Don't know about turning off all your powers, but downplaying or not advertising your full capabilities is a normal thing. Then someone coming along trying to bully you is in for a reality check if you don't bother to maintain the muggle act.

>>54268454
Yes, it is the bullshit magic. It can store massive amounts of stuff in a scroll for example.

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>>54268454
fuinjutsu is basically magical seal programming that lets you seal stuff in other stuff. So yeah, it's totally worth it.

>>54268106
I was hoping the title for this thread would be "Bancho's Waifu Is Shit Edition"

>>54268454
>>54268542
It's also the basis for all the cool items, like the various swords that can do things that make no sense for swords to do and the chakra armor and a variety of other things. Ok, so not all the cool things. Just the majority. Their are a couple of things that aren't seal based, like simple chakra conducting weapons and such.

>>54268593
Don't remind me, anon. Please just let me repress that horrid image.
Seriously did the artist hate Bancho or something?

>>54268593
i must commend him for his depth in character, damn him for being in the end a monster, and resist horror at his pretty normal body with pretty normal midget wife.

>>54268682
she is not always a little person. She's a shape shifter

>>54268622
I always wondered if zabuza's bigass cleaver was made with some sort of fuinjutsu trick. I'll definitely have to do some graverobbing to study it.

>>54268742
find a better artist then.

>>54268682
>pretty normal
Did you see the same picture I did, anon?
You should remember it, since it was a picture of sheer uncanny valley enough to make you feel dizzy and ill. Or maybe you only saw the thumbnail where most of ti's horror was hidden by being teeny weeny.

>>54268742
>she is not always a little person
Then why commission a picture of her looking like a little person?
Actually, no. I don't want to know.

>>54268742
Then why is she in that shaoe when she could be in a good one?

Would a Don Quixote Servant work better as a Lancer, Rider or Berserker class, because I couldn't find anything legendary about the weapons he used. And I really want to fit in some memetic skills or NPs in to go with the impossible dream theme.

Hardmode: Don Quixote demi servant. Good idea or best idea?

>>54268758
yeah , I really should see using my monthly 2 character color from S.L.B for porn.
>>54268777
because her league of legends Form is a short stack.
>>54268780
because it fits in my lap better than most of hers

>>54268751
That is what I've always assumed. There's nothing else in setting to really explain it's porperties.
Although I wonder if Samehada was made somehow through fuuinjutsu? Given it's similarity to Jugo i wonder if some of his or his families flesh was used as a base along with fuuinjutsu to make it into a weapon, bonded with shark dna at some point?
Something to ponder.

>>54268782
Berserker with Mad Enhancement EX most assuredly, if the current examples of ME EX are all "legitimately insane can't be talked into normalcy."

>>54268239

Hey bancho how was your trip?, Also did you make any progress on your gauntlet

>>54268760
I will admit the hair piece was the major thing that made it look fucked up (besides the fucked proportions), if the entire head area was redone properly, it probably wouldn't have looked entirely awful. still creepy to be in your underwear, but hey atleast its not another eldritch horror.

So is cocaine a good way of coping with this shit? I could use a good coping mechanism right about now.

>>54268790
>because her league of legends Form is a short stack.
I said don't tell me! My beautfiul ignorance is gone now. B-baka!

>because it fits in my lap better than most of hers
>yeah , I really should see using my monthly 2 character color from S.L.B for porn.
Are- are you trying to make me violently ill, bancho?

>>54268810
Yes, please, let's change the subject and never discuss it again. Ever.

>>54268813
>but hey atleast its not another eldritch horror.
Oh, your poor dear Summer child. It is.
Ask bancho if you want, then prepare to be very disgusted. You may want a pail or bucket on hand to catch your sick, just in case you don't have a really strong stomch.

>>54268843
If it works, then use it.
I won't judge anon.

>>54268843
just drink anon, drink and try to write about some autistic DA knock off.

>>54268873
>DA
...Dragon Age?

>>54268882
Deviant Art

>>54268873
>DA
DA?
Ducks Anonymous?
Drivers Alliance?
Digimon Ally?
What DA?

>>54268887
Oh.

>>54268866
>Yes, please, let's change the subject and never discuss it again. Ever.

I actually and genuinely do want to know how his trip went and if he made any progress on his gauntlet

>>54268810
>Hey bancho how was your trip?

The trip was all right, a lot of hard work lugging boxes and pulling and pushing carts, but it'sover $500 worth of fun for around $250 worth of labor. Also, my roommates insisted on keeping the fan on 24 seven so I was kind of Cold overnight and the air mattress was kind of short for me so I was aching all over but in the mornings I went to the hotel sauna and felt a lot better afterwards So it's worth it, got to meet up with some friends, I'm in a campaign that only runs at con games so my character finally completed phase one of his long-term plan.

>Also did you make any progress on your gauntlet

unfortunately, no but I do plan on working on it further once I get stuff cleaned Around the apartment

>>54268873
>>54268882
>>54268887
>2(DA)
Dragon Age Deviant Art: Not as batshit as Tumblr Dragon Age, but still off the wall and lewd

>>54268897
Good, just don't ask about that ~thing~ he had commissioned. Please.

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>buy Time Ship in Arrowverse
>go to Mass Effect
>travel forward a few centuries
>go to a different galaxy
>scour the galaxy
>all just to punch Ryder in their stupid fucking face
Was this a good use of my Mass Effect jump?

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>>54268923
Here, you're probably going to want this

>>54268934
>Tumblr Dragon Age
I'm going to guess it's 20% lesbians and 80% straight characters being fucked in the ass by communist minotaurs?

>>54268622
No, that's fanon. It's unknown how the various pieces of enhanced gear are made. The story never goes into it. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if seals were involved, the ability to contain and restrain the flow of various forces would be very useful for making items like that. But the only items we have confirmation use seals are things like Sasori's missiles or the kote bracers in Boruto, that are clearly there to contain a projectile so it can be launched later.

>>54268947
It doesnt help when others post his stuff!

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>>54268934
There are other things to do, butt you're headed in the right direction

>>54268934
No.

Condescendingly and aggressively pat her head instead. Don't let her get away.

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>>54268923
>Good, just don't ask about that ~thing~ he had commissioned. Please.

I'm not asking because I don't care and just want bancho to give me an update,So if you hate it so much stop bringing it up.

>>54268804
I thought so too at first but the tale ends with Don turning back to sanity. It's also notable that while he is insane he isn't stupid but just too caught up in his dreams.

How about an Anti Ideals NP that erodes the values/locks down the magic or NP of his opponents to represent disillusionment? Or a low level pioneer of the stars ability to represent his drive?

>>54268934
Is ryder really a transgender failure of a post op?

>>54268999
Nice trying Tera, but inverted Satan is revealing your disguise

>>54268947
Bancho is one of those people who veer between extremes. Either he's quite good or he's really bad.
I don't want to suffer the latter or be cheated out of the former. Filtering kinda does that.
I'll keep it in reserve though. Just in case. Thanks, anon.

>>54268999
Then stop giving me cause and stop talking about it before Bancho decides all this talk warrants re-presenting it.
Also bancho already gave you an update, you dense sod. See >>54268907

>>54269012
From what I heard bioware or whoever fucked up the graphics that control facial expression, so everyone looks like stepford smilers without the smiles.

>>54269021
>inverted Satan
I get called this too often. Should I start being proud of it?
It feels wierd to be praised and called satan at the same time.

>>54269053
>he's quite good
citation needed

>>54268959
So, effectively "enchanted" gear isn't confirmed as being made with the local method of "enchanting". Ok, so the author never outright stated it, but the thing is he never gave any other possibility either while showing only one thing in setting capable of getting the job done.

>>54269010
I want to say he should have Luck EX.

If I'm remembering right, though I'm probably not, a theme of the novels was supposed to be that chivalry is dead, and Quixote even renounces his delusions on his deathbed. However, the story was so popular that it actually caused a resurgence in chivalry novels. So, from a certain point of view, Quixote believed so hard that he managed to defy the author and effect change in the real world. That seems to pretty well fit the "screw destiny" nature of the Luck stat, but it might fit better as a NP.

Again, I'm probably wrong about that happening though.

>>54269010
>he isn't stupid

Two of the examples of ME EX are Spartacus and Penthesilea, so stupidity isn't a part of it. As for the idea of Pioneer of the Stars, I'm not sure that could work given the justification for it is "figure who became a turning point in human history."

I'm not sure how Francis Drake qualifies for it in that instance, but Nikola Tesla and Leonardo DaVinci are the only other ones with it. Are Pursuit of the Unknown or Ephemeral Dream available in the Supplement?

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>>54268907
>The trip was all right, a lot of hard work lugging boxes and pulling and pushing carts, but it'sover $500 worth of fun for around $250 worth of labor. Also, my roommates insisted on keeping the fan on 24 seven so I was kind of Cold overnight and the air mattress was kind of short for me so I was aching all over but in the mornings I went to the hotel sauna and felt a lot better afterwards So it's worth it, got to meet up with some friends, I'm in a campaign that only runs at con games so my character finally completed phase one of his long-term plan.

Good for you and glad to hear it man, Hope Teeznecth gives you insight

>unfortunately, no but I do plan on working on it further once I get stuff cleaned Around the apartment

Hope to see it soon then,

>>54269053

>Then stop giving me cause and stop talking about it before Bancho decides all this talk warrants re-presenting it.
Also bancho already gave you an update, you dense sod.

Don't blame me for your actions and I would have saw his reply had you not been overreacting. It's over and done with

>>54268800
I get the feeling samehada might be a little different; all the other ones seem replicable with fuinjutsu but samehada being sentient might have been made out of something already alive; like the guy who made it went and beat up some legendary shark monster that could eat chakra and then used some sort of shenanigans to turn it into a chakra monster on a stick. Sort of like monster hunter smithing except the materials are still alive.

>>54269150
I was planning on Lancer stats. High agility and endurance (he can take quite a beating, average others and poor luck. But his skills flip those bad stats around so long as he's in Don mode and crash his and everyone else's when in Alonso mode.

I just wanted something different to all the Item Creation Ex and knock off Gates of Babylon (seriously just use a teleporter or summoning magic) that also fit in with the meta of Jumpchain. One of the most iconic dreamers seemed perfect.

>>54269185
Point taken. I could see it as a berserker who's really really convinced he's a Lancer, though I still prefer Lancer class.

>>54268782
He has an EX+++++++++ NP that gives him ultimate conceptual authority over killing windmills.

>>54269239
... Can always just put points into ME and have Lancer class, to make it fit.

>>54269191
>I would have saw his reply had you not been overreacting.
Way to not take personal responsibility for not noticing something right in front of you.
What, are you going to say that I mind controlled you over the internet to not see his post, a response to what yourself posted and you should have explicitly been looking out for.
Don't blame me for your failures, you projecting twit.

>>54269194
Maybe. There is still so much in the setting that doesn't make sense or has no apparent origin.
For example: Why are summons a thing in the first place? They couldn't have evolved naturally, right? I suppose there's plenty room in the setting for a giant shark monster to have been found and used as the base for Samehada. Actually, maybe it was a summon, like a boss of the shark summons beforehand? Soemthing to ponder.

>>54269239
>GoB knockoffs
Speaking of which, does Gil's GoB only contain "real" things? It might be interesting if the two of them fight, but he can't use Quixote's NPs because they're actually just his delusions.

>>54269259
That was a NP: giant slaying Lance. Anti unit/anti fortress. Treats fortifications add large enemies. Imagine kiritsugus demolition trick but with one dude running really hard into a wall.

>>54269267
We can take other class abilities to foot different classes? Ok. Should i throw in mental pollution (chivalry)?

>>54269305
Far as I know, yeah, you just don't get a discount. How I got Item Creation as a Saber.

As for Mental Pollution, actually I'd say yeah. Might disrupt a bit of control with the Command Seal, but all in all would be thematic (and also help Quixote deal with enemy Caster mental-bullshit.)

>>54269283
>Don't blame me for your failures, you projecting twit.

Says the anon who got triggered over an image

>>54268782
>And I really want to fit in some memetic skills or NPs in to go with the impossible dream theme.
>>54269259
>EX+++++++++ NP that gives him ultimate conceptual authority over killing windmills.
Doesn't he already have a "Impossible Dream" Noble Phantasm?
That would already have "Windmills can be successfully tilted at" and "The world can be made better by tilting at windmills" as part of it's aspects. Hopefully metaphorically and not literally.

The ability to regularly encounter worthy windmills to tilt at could be another aspect of "Impossible Dream," or could be the lesser NP, "Man of La Mancha"

>>54269191
Good for you and glad to hear it man, Hope Teeznecth gives you insight

yeah I'm pretty sure that the 40K Pantheon doesn't exist in this campaign ,the evil plan in question is gathering souls through passive sustainable ungodliness,and not dragging them to hell and torturing them , but rather allowing them to persist on in their present lives as ghosts in the mortal world.
the plan is as follows
1.become king
2.offer amnesty and protection for the evil races that always get run out of fantasy kingdoms and fugitives in exchange for citizenship and labor
3.Create new Gomorrah.
4.leverage liberal Immigration and business policies into labor/monetary and political capital
5.Outcompete/outlive the Societies of the rest of the enchanted Realms Thus spreading your ungodliness

see the big, flashy,quick evil plans send hundreds of Heroes to your doorstep. So I'm playing the long game

>>54269383
>triggered
Oh, you're from Tumblr. That explains so much.
Glad to know I can safely ignore you without hurting a real human's feelings.

>>54268454
>>54268751

i recommend reading "Sticks and Stones By WhenEver Possible". it's got some great fan theory for the use of fuinjutsu. it's also pretty funny.

>>54269383
>I want to see more of bancho's porn.

>>54269414
Are you surprised? Shunning personal responsibility and blaming other people for their own faults, no matter how stupid, is quintessential Tumblr.

>>54269436
I really hope you're wrong. No one should have any need or want to see Bancho's porn. Not even Bancho.

>>54269530
Are we seriously getting people from Tumblr coming here? I heard a ways back someone being called out for it, but I thought it was just shitposting, or a one-off.

>>54269132
No, he didn't show us, because fuinjutsu doesn't just arbitrarily alter reality. It's not rune magic, you can't slap down a string of seals and have it do effects for you. It contains things, and it releases them in controlled ways. That's it. There are lots of things you could do with that, but not everything. Furthermore, your assertion that it's the only way to enchant objects is wrong. We know that some materials just interact with chakra in unusual ways. Chakra-conductive metal, of course, but there's also the trees that chakra paper is made from. And the crystal necklace that interacts with Wood Release, that's not a seal. Probably there are plenty of "magic" items that are made just by taking advantage of interactions between exotic materials. But of course, that's just conjecture. All I know for certain is that we don't know how the majority of enhanced equipment is made, and the idea that it's all seals is an unsubstantiated claim. One that is rather implausible to me, since all the seals we've seen are on the outside of objects. We never see one that isn't immediately visible, even when that would be really useful like the seals on ROOT members' tongues. Even if you assume that the seals penetrate deeper, there appears to be some need for a surface-level anchor. We don't see any seals on the surface of a lot of special gear. We see it on many such items, yes, but there are enough that don't that it's clearly not universal.

>>54269552
Let's hope not, anon. We've got enough to deal with without that hot mess dumped on our laps.

>>54269424
I'ma gonna read it!

>>54269562
You make a good point, well put.

>>54269567
Same here. To both.

>>54269436
I Would be happy to share it. But this is a blue board

>>54269552
I browse tumblr for porn, but don't have an account or interact with its users. Does that count as being from tumblr?

Because tumblr has a lot of really good porn.

>>54269562
>you can't slap down a string of seals and have it do effects for you

We see people do exactly that.

>>54269654
For the love of god, don't.

>>54269654
Please don't and thank you for refraining.
Bancho, the anon earlier said you are working on a gauntlet and asked your progress.
Could you remind me what gauntlet it is your working on, please? I think it's a kaiju one, Godzilla Destroy all Monsters. Am I right?

>>54269670
>Because tumblr has a lot of really good porn.
I refuse to believe that. 'Tis nothing but a snare for that wicked place!
Get thee behind me, Satan!

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>>54269733
>Could you remind me what gauntlet it is your working on, please? I think it's a kaiju one, Godzilla Destroy all Monsters. Am I right?


You are correct sir!

>>54269670
>Because tumblr has a lot of really good porn.
I was about to question this until I remembered that the maker of a game I want also makes porn there.

>>54269713
Effects related to containing things and controlling the things contained. Never anything else.

>>54269794
How about what happened when Tsunade was healing Neji? Fuiinjutsu was clearly being used for that.

>>54269733
The porn's not particularly good or bad but I wish more people would fucking tag it with nsfw so I can filter it, instead I have to block them like a fucking animal

>>54269794
Explosive tags?

>>54269823
Yeah, and? She was manipulating a thing contained inside a fuinjutsu array, that's not contradicting what I'm saying.

>>54269854
They contain a bit of chakra that gets explosively released. Also not something that people can just instantly write out and make explode, we always see them use pre-made ones.

>>54269854
Are there any perks that let you heal people with explosions?

>>54269882
>She was manipulating a thing contained inside a fuinjutsu array,
Hmm, fair enough.

>>54269897
D&D, if your explosions are made out of positive energy. But that would heal everyone in range unless they are undead, or explode them if they are too healthy.
Might be something you can build off of with the right feats.
Other than that, I got nothing.

What jumps have good anti-precognition perks?

>>54270027
Dune has one - Kwitz Haderach (sp?). Very expensive though.

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On the topic of shunning responsibility, I've been pushing off starting my new chain for a few months now after six consecutive attempts that I disowned within 3-6 jumps and I'm more or less ready to try again with what I've learned.

There's just one thing that's still being a massive albeit, self-inflicted roadblock is how I'm going to explain how the choices for each jump are made in-story. Whether they're done via hologram, on a sheet of paper, etc. or maybe not at all and let that be a purely meta thing.

Now, any sensible writer would just take the time to reflect and make these decisions for themselvesx, but considering that this has been a holdup for me for multiple weeks, I'm clearly not capable of that. To that end, I'm asking for advice, or at least inspiration. How exactly do you handle making cp purchases in-story, if at all? I'd rather not steal someone else' idea word for world, but regardless, this would be a big help for me.

>>54270027
spanner in the works form worm

Doing teen Titans jump later. Any thing I should try to grab while having teenage super hero fun?

>>54270070
>On the topic of shunning responsibility,
It's okay. I've already forgiven you.
Holding grudges is a waste of time.

>>54270070
>How exactly do you handle making cp purchases in-story, if at all?
Different people have differing approaches, but I think most do one of two ways, either you just instantly get the purchases explanation be damned or there's a narrative surrouding it. Most tend to the former for ease.

Me personally, I've started using the Universal Drawback Supplement, and I have my jumper be born into and grow up as their background. It gives plenty of opportunities to explain CP purchases, but isn't for everyone.
Even then though, some things just don't make sense for them to have come to you anyway then a benevolent diety (jump-chan) just plain giving them to you, and sometimes for things that are sensitive in the setting, you'd rather there be no background or papertrail for someone to follow or stumble over.

You've also got to ask yourself how much investment you really want to put into just the background and smoothing over the oddness of your cp purchases compared to how much you can use for the jump itself.

If it helps, there are perks that allow you to just give hand-wave explanations for where your Outside Context Powers come from that could help you along by minimising how important it is in setting.

Hope this helps. Happy jumping, anon.

>>54270280
Waifus!
Seriously, though. Since that is still a DC setting, anything of value in a DC setting should be available. Lantern Rings, Star-Rods, genetic samples of potent alien races. Oodles of suff.
Anyting unique to Teen Titans however, another anon will have to help with that. I'm only broadly familiar with DC and not specifically with Teen Titans.

>>54270070
Jumper is given a huge packet that resembles the worst nightmares of the US tax system, filled with legalese and forms and trap options. The jumper has roughly 24 hours to fill out this nightmare of paperwork that will grant him and his companions powers, and submit it for approval. The end result of this mess is what I (the writer) select from the actual jump document irl.

>>54270070
I go with my choices happening unconsciously, since I've stopped writing the Benefactor as an actual character. Jumper just accepts the fact that he has no idea what the fuck is happening and enjoys the ride.

>>54270070
I interpret it as there being sort of a swirly void place that I go to between jumps, where Jump-chan shows up and hands me a copy of the jump document. Then I check off what bits I want, usually while talking it over with her because I've come to consider her a friend by now, and then hand it over for her to make the necessary changes.

>>54269897
Magicka can do that. The healing mines are pretty useful.

>>54270070
The Cat appears right before we enter, and I'm vanished to... somewhere, in the interim. A pure white void with nothing but those two glowing eyes of orange and blue, and the air in front of me shimmering with the words and selections available. As I choose, images and demonstrations of what I've selected appear around me to properly educate me.

And sometimes, choices are made for me.

>>54270070
My in story explanation is that my Jumper doesnt make the choice and the perks are part of the inJump backstory.

This is mostly to explain some of my ass-bawkwards decision making since I tend to focus on theme over optimization. If I or any other person were actually taking the Jumps there is no way some of the options Id take would even be considered.

Is RealScience still being worked on?

>>54270070
I don't have a Benefactor, my Warehouse is really some sort of vehicle that works by reincarnating me in different universes. I can program it on a computer screen to give my next incarnation a custom start alongside a "destiny matrix" that handles the years before the start of the Jump, perks and all that jazz. CP are an abstraction of what the computer is actually calculating.

Sometimes the odds become unworkable and that's where drawbacks come from: the machine is cutting corners to allow me to manifest in that next reality.

>>54270070
The Writer of the Chain is independent of the Jumper, no emotional contexts bleed over.

>>54270070
Myself and my benefactor don't have as much control over the chain as we'd like. To put it simply, she's 'all-powerful' but only within her own dimension. Jumping is done through establishing connections to other worlds using me as a proxy, and this has a side effect of giving me a 'piece' of the world within myself - powers, perks based off of elements or narrative, and so forth.

Thing is, worlds tend to react incredibly violently to having things 'taken' or 'reworked' into them. I've learned this the hard way, and that's where drawbacks come from.

So my Jumper has no real control of his build, effectively.

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So I've played Skyrim, but I'm not exactly overly familiar with the lore. If I go with the Dragonborn scenario, how much harder will it be than the game makes it seem?

I assume the fucking World-Eater dragon isn't a such of a chump in reality.

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>>54270070
Jumpchan yanks the Jumper into some pocket dimension that always is different and hands him a few catalogs. Sometimes the catalogs have stuff on them to imply what jump it is, sometimes they are blank white but whatever gets picked is what jumper gets stuck with.

>>54270796
Games can't really convey what's in the fluff. As the Dragonborn, I'd focus on your Thu'um. It can grant you the power to tear huge landmasses apart (see Morrowind and Solstheim)

>>54270796
Hard to say, it's never really clear whether the hype that dragons get in ES lore is to be taken seriously. as you said, Alduin is more or less a regular dragon with a shit ton of health, despite supposedly being the incarnation of the end of time or whatever.

In general, most people in skyrim have a very small range of ways to actually hurt you. Unless you really go out of your way to pick unwinnable fights, you wont be dealing with any metaphysical or conceptual bullshit. As long as you can hold your own against dudes with blades, you should be fine.

>>54270896
Just buy thuum without taking dragonborn then use it to rap battle people till the real dragonborn shows up then eat him for his powers.

>>54270070
My benefactor runs a sort of perfect simulation of me that picks out perks and stuff, then gives that stuff to me and tosses me into the jump. She always explains it as not wanting to 'ruin the flow'.

>>54270796
The Dragonborn has about half the metaphysical weight of a Daedra prince, so you should be pretty damn terrifying yourself

>>54271016
>about half the metaphysical weight of a Daedra prince
What does that even mean?

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What happens if you happen to achieve CHIM in Elder Scrolls?
Is it impossible due to fiat or an instant loss? Or does it only empower you in ES jumps due to the metaphysics?
Should I just fanwank

>>54271047
If you put two dragonborn on a giant set of metaphysical scales, they'd balance out a daedra prince on the other side.

>>54271047
Just more bullshit. I remember there was someone on here screaming about how you could not buy or use the thuum unless you were a dragonborn because the dragonborn is special like that, disregard that others can use it.

The dragonborn just is really important to the metaphysics of tes basically.

>>54271061
It continued to work for my Jumper, but like Vivec and Talos he knows when to use it (i.e never even, even when his mortal body is at risk)

>>54271061
Well one of two things happens.

1. You fail, if this happens you are retroactively written out of having existed.

2. You never change because you become so important reality will not allow you to change.

>>54271061
Personally I just ignored the concept due the the metaphysics getting particularly weird in that case.

>>54271061
What the fuck is CHIM?

>>54271178
It is what happens when you realize the world you are in is actually a video game series so you hack the console commands so hard reality goes crosseyed andyou become an elder god.

>>54271178
CHIM is like waking up from a lucid dream. Except you're waking up from reality. All of reality is actually a dream by a sleeping god. So when you realize you're a dream, you wake up. That's CHIM.

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So, with the recent upswing of 40k talk... I'm kinda wondering if anyone's planning on an AdMech jump?

>>54271256
How do I do it ?

>>54271289
It's not really recommended. See >>54271129.

>>54271225
>>54271256
I think I can vaguely remember some guy saying that all the stars in the Elder Scrolls series are holes in reality left behind by people who woke up from it. I guess that's related?

>>54271289
>I am = 1
>I am not = -1
>1 + -1 = 0
>This is the Zero-Sum.

>if 1 + -1 =/= 0, I AM AND I ARE ALL WE.

>>54271300
Zero summing is only a risk if you're not confident in yourself. I don't care if I've only been imagined by another, I'm just a real as them. Nay, I'm more real than the Godhead because I'm not comatose.

>>54271258
Origins:
>- Drop in
>- Mechanics
What others could there be?
>- Person Made Into Servitor That Retained Personality And Now Lives a Hellish Existence
>- AI Trapped in a Servo Skull

What about perks?
>- Mechandrites
>- Mechandrites everywhere
>- Mechandrite tentacles with lasers
>- Medicae Mechandrites
>- So Many Goddamn Mechandrites

>>54271300
>>54271324
>>54271337
Ruck the consequences, I want to do it.

>>54271258
Can someone not shit claim it if it's going to be done at all?

>>54271289
At least one school of thought holds that it needs serious quantities of navel-gazing. Another school of thought holds that that's bullshit.

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>>54271339
You need a Superior Demonic Science perk for the Hereteks

>>54271339
>>54271258
You could also have hereteks and space marine admech.

>>54271384
That looks dumb enough to be a kamen rider villain.

>>54271339
Could base the origins on the divisions and stuff. Like the Genetors/Magos Biologis, Fabricators, Collegia Titanica, and so on.

Also, the Skitarii and Hereteks.

Maybe something for Techmarines. I'd just make that a perk myself though.

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>>54271339
Drop In
Magos (forgeworld)
Enginseer
Titan legion operator?
Skitarii

Or even have origins based on disciplines, Biology, Robots, fabrication etc. Explorator is also an option.

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Reminder that Khajiit have barbed penises as per canon.

>>54271256
More like if an aspect of your dream became self aware.

Of course, I personally think it's bullshit since Vivec is a lying liar and Kirkbride is shit.

>>54271476
Yes. LadyNerevar and Kirkbride went and detailed what the penis of every single known breed of khajiit is like, from the housecat to the giant tiger to the furry to the monstergirl to the elf types. All of them.

Also reminder to people that like khajiit, at least two of the breeds are non-furry. One is monster girl level and the other looks like a regular old elf. Like a less creepy and more cat-acting bosmer without the weird heads or eyes. So ironically they're the most normal elves in the setting.

>>54271533
>>54271476
What about argonian dicks or vags?

>>54271469
Pretty good idea.

>>54271572
Never detailed. I can tell you that Argonian is just term for someone who serves the Hist and that the lizard people are actually named Saxhleel. There are also frog and snake people Argonians hidden in that swamp. But I can't tell you about their junk. Kirkbride probably just never felt the need to detail it because his internet girlfriend isn't furry for them, just the khajiit.

>>54271533
Didn't she actually make a chart of what all the dicks look like, too?

>>54271608
>No details on Argonian Cloaca
Truly a regretful sequence of events

>>54271641
There's a chart but I'm not sure if there are actual pictures anymore. I, obviously enough, didn't want to look at it much.

>>54271666
Well Satan, you're free to imagine what your wife's lizard pussy looks like now without someone elses fetish getting up in it.

>>54271311
No the stars are left from the origin spirits (magna-gi) running away with magnus as mundas formed.

Originally there was the Et-ada, Original Spirits, there was shit before them but that isn't important right now. Anyway one of the Et-ada tricked the rest, that was Lorkhan btw. He made them create Mundas (the mortal realm with nirn and shit). 8 Et-ada created it and lost their physical forms, a large amount fled with magnus when they found out it was a trap. This created the stars, holes in reality that lead to Etherius.

The 8 that created Mundas tore Lorkhans heart out, it can be found in one of the games. It was also believed to be the cause of the Dwemmer vanishing. Anyway his body became Massa and Secunda. Now Lorhan isn't really dead, he actually helps other being CHIM and shit.

So the 8 beings that formed Mundas are the Aedra, or nine divines. A number who didn't help became the Daedric Princes. Aedra means our ancestors, Daedra means not our ancestors.

Some Magna-gi became Daedra, Miridia is the one I'm referring to here. Some Daedra just randomly formed, Sheogorath. And Talos is believed to have Mantled Lorhan.

Mantling is when you take over and become everything that a god is. This has occurred once before that is proven (sheogorath).

The lore is fucking insane honestly.

seriously, I just want Someone to please repost the jumps I missed last week..

>>54271730
Christ figure it out yourself. The thread doesn't exist to capitulate to your needs.

>>54271730
There's a link to previous threads, and a search function. Go and look for yourself.

>>54271730
Go into uploads folder and sort by last modified. It isn't difficult.

How do I get conceptual power over/immunity to dragons?

>>54271770
those were not there the last time I checked, thank you

>>54271786
Be a Bard and make the right BodyMod build

>>54271801
It's always been there.

>>54271786
Take a Symbolic Link for Dragons in Kamigawa? Or a Dragons Domain in Marvel Magic? Become the god of dragons.

>>54271719
You're missing a few details. There were far more than 8 involved in making it, those are just the Aedra worshiped by the Empire. There are several more major ones, like Yffre. Uncountable spirits were involved in the creation of Mundus, and the Magne-Ge came about from some of the et'ada's reaction to it. Some of them chose or had to stay behind, and these are called Aedra. The rest decided to leave because fuck reality, and those are the Magne-Ge. Daedra is the term for spirits who had ZERO involvement in creating Mundus, but who later became interested in it and set up shop with imitations in Oblivion. However, you can apparently get cast out of Aetherius, which is why Miridia basically acts as a Daedra.

Also, the weakest et'ada who were involved in creation yet who were able to survive (those weaker than them died) became mortals. They are the ultimate ancestors of most sapient races in the setting. So all mortals are actually degenerated et'ada in meat shells.

>>54271786
SB has a dragonkinesis combo for Marvel, go check out their site

>>54271853
...what?

Link please.

>>54271852
What I wanna know is what happens if a dragonborn absorbs every single dragonsoul (except from Alduin) that is currently on Nirn. I mean are we looking at the start of a new Et-ada or will they just eventually rejoin with Akatosh.

Another curiosity I have is the result of a Dragonborn becoming a CHIM. Like what the fuck does Akatosh do, part of his soul has just fucked off and will probably never rejoin with him.

>>54271608
>Reminder that the Ocheeva the Argonian chick from the Oblivion Dark Brotherhood reads "Lusty Argonian Maid" every single day

>>54271719
>And Talos is believed to have Mantled Lorhan.
He was also a Shezzarine, which is basically a mortal incarnation of Lorkhan's. My favorite description of Talos is "He was Lorkhan pretending to be Lorkhan, which made him super Lorkhan.

May have also done a fusion dance with several other Shezzarines.

>>54271949
Akatosh is just one shard of Aka, so honestly there's nothing stopping a Dragonborn from being an independent dragon god. All Akatosh, Alduin, Auri-El and the various other dragon gods are, are various shards of the original dragon god Aka.

>>54271178
Basically, the Aurbis is a large wheel. If you look at it from it's side. It's also called the tower though, because if you look at the aurbis from another angle (like it's laying flat), you get what looks like an | . CHIM happens if you can look upon the tower, which encompasses all of reality (mundus, aka the place everything happens in the games, sits in the center of the wheel) and not lose your sense of self. Apparently there's a hidden tower in there somewhere or some shit. Achieving CHIM let's you mess with reality and people think that equates to the players ability to open up the console and modding. Which it may, kirkbride is insane.

>>54271965
Lizard pussy is trash and cold-blooded waifus are garbage

>>54271969
Talos is the single most powerful being currently alive in the TES universe, because he has walked Three of the Seven Walking Ways to Reach Heaven Through Violence. Talos has Mantling, Enatiomorph, and CHIM.

>>54271965
You know what to do, anon.

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>>54268972

...That ass is not at all blue. Let's fix that.

Jumpers!

We collect many, many powerful alt-forms as we progress in the chain, and mash them all together with a certain perk.

But what are the most attractive alt-forms? Twi'lek, draenai, asari, different flavors of elf? What species would you collect and mix to create the sexiest creature in the multiverse?

Are we /TES/ general now?

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>>54272007
>But what are the most attractive alt-forms? Twi'lek, draenai, asari, different flavors of elf? What species would you collect and mix to create the sexiest creature in the multiverse?


the thing is such things are amazingly subjective

>>54272008
/jc/ is any general it wants to be depending on what jump setting is popular at the moment.

>>54271949
>Another curiosity I have is the result of a Dragonborn becoming a CHIM.
Literally happened with Talos.

>>54272007
I have that perk from CT I believe that means all my forms are hot. Even if I turn into random bug monster, I will be a strangely sexy bug monster.

>>54272047
CT ?

>>54272007
I dunno, probably some shoggoth-style, writhing mass of human genitals.

>>54271995
>Enatiomorph
What's that?

>>54272007
Space Goats

>>54272047
>>54272067
>CT
Seconded

>>54271786
Become a Fairy Type in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

>>54272007
>certain perk.
From SAO right?

>>54272085
>Space Goats
I agree. I love being a futa space goat with a horse cock.

>>54272032
>Not being objectively attractive
>Not causing others to fall in love with you regardless of your form or the topographical specifics
Pleb.

>>54272115
>From SAO right?
I personally prefer the Exalted Lunars one.

>>54272127
That's not how aesthetics work at best you can be a subjective illusion of what the viewer finds most attractive

So while we're talking about TEShit, how should I go about stabilizing reality and breaking the Kalpic cycle?

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In the various Dragon Ball jumps, could someone with enough creativity and "good at controlling ki/chi/whatever" perks develop techniques for super saiyan style transformations for other races?

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I'm updating Thief jump.

There anything anyone wishes to see?

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>>54272007
Vampires have the advantage of being able to be sexy, powerful, and terrifying at the same time. Going from seductive to nightmarish and then back again is the best.

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>>54272007
Mixing forms for power is easy enough, but attractive forms are like different flavors of icecream.

I like having a collection of them. Going with whichever one fits my current jump, mood, and outfit.

>>54272067
>>54272085
Chrono Trigger, the Power is Beautiful perk.

Aside from Tactics Advance, which Final Fantasy is the safest?

>>54272132
>I personally prefer the Exalted Lunars one.
Lunars has a perk for fusing altforms?

>>54270796
The thing about your fight with Alduin is that you weren't supposed to lost to him because it's not the end of time. Once the end rolls around for but for realsies, Alduin is gonna show back up to do his job properly this time

>>54272007
>But what are the most attractive alt-forms?
Since there are so many Appearance Perks which apply to Jumper no matter what Alt-form they are wearing, all of them?

>>54272151
>conflating visual aesthetics with conceptual aesthetics
Listen faggot, this isn't your first day here so just stop

>>54272198
As I understood it, the Kalpa is actually long overdue to end. It's just that Alduin was a prick who decided to rule people in the earlier eras and got cast forth in time past the due date for his trouble.

>>54272193
Sort of, with the capstone-boosted warform thing.

They can also get physical traits of other altforms as mutations with one of their charms.

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>>54272219
what the hell are conceptual aesthetics?!

>>54272178
If you didn't turn Police Girl before Alucard did, I honestly don't know what to say to you

>>54272184
I maybe? I think that, if you fuck off from the plot, nothing too bad happens apart from the whole "life sucks because demons and monsters" thing. The Warriors of Light should take care of everything if you don't interfere.

It might not even be too bad if you are one of the WoL, since you get 3 adventuring companions and your CP gives you the tools to, theoretically, claim victory. I mean, it won't be easy and you're going to struggle and suffer, but it's totally doable.

>>54272239
>https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plato-aesthetics/
That's a start, but it's only a start

>>54272007
I'd probably avoid species and go straight for deities and the occasional mortals like Lúthien or Helen of Troy.

>>54272084
Take two conflicts or people, and present them as each being a '1' in '11'. Who/what is each 1? They are so similar that you could flip the 1's around and never know it. So only either one One can remain, or they must merge/add together to become 2. Basically, when two equal things are both vying for the same thing some highlander shit goes down and there can be only one... except someone has to be watching this go down, otherwise nothing happens. Vivec is the witness of the nerevarine (you) fighting dagoth ur.

Sheogorath/Jyggalag was an enantiomorph. He was Sheogorath but also Jyggalag, Chaos and Order, two sides of the same coin, equals no more important than the other., both fighting for control. They didn't merge though, the player took Sheogoraths place when he turned into Jyggalag and defeated him, effectively mantling Sheogorath.

>>54272084
Enatiomorph is essentially the fusion of multiple beings by enactment of one of three metaphysical roles. King, Usurper, and Observer (also seen it called Vizier), also called the Warrior, Thief, and Mage after the astronomic signs. If three people pull of these roles, they fuse into one being on a higher level, whether they were willing or not. This is how Talos was formed through Tiber Septim and two other variously named Shezzarine god-heroes, and possibly more. For you see, there's nothing stopping one person/amalgamate from being part of multiple Enatiomorphs. You can do it endlessly, creating a larger and larger gestalt.

The first person to perform an Enatiomorph was actually Lorkhan. Part of the trick he played was to maneuver himself (Thief), Aka (King), and Magnus (Observer) into the three roles and thus fuse them on an upper metaphysical level. Yes, that's right, Lokhan, Aka, and Magnus are now ultimately the same being, through Lorkhan tricking the other two. This is why you don't get any weirdness from someone like Talos or the Dragonborn being both a Shezzarine and a Dragonborn. There's nothing weird about being a mantling/part of both Aka and Lorkhan because they're the same person.

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Who taught you kung-fu JC?

>>54272304
An Enatiomorph requires three. See >>54272306

>>54272151
You say that, but you're wrong. My Jumper is objectively beautiful. She enlightens everyone who sees her, they come to be able to conceptualise the idea of objective beauty once they've laid eyes on her. You can't assert that isn't how aesthetics work when they clearly do.

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>>54272318
Lets just say that the Elder is a Monster and leave it there.

>>54272318
Jackie-chan.

Just a random post checking if
Marvel Anon and
Genius Anon
(Who when last seen were trapped off the coast of Alaska inside a Bardo Whale named Jonah after it's most famous occupant, keeping themselves occupied by battling from the inside of various breeds of Bear, using handfuls of stomach as control sticks to pilot the bears like they were mecha)
Had gotten released to post the latest revisions of the
Honorverse,
Carmen Sandiego, and
Genius the Transgression Jumps?

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>>54272318
I haven't really had any mentors so far, most of what I have is from perks and independent training.

>Squeee at seeing Master of Magic jump
>Immediately look to see if artificer/runemaster exploit is supported
>Author specifically calls it out and frowns on it in appendix
>Sadface

>>54272318
I don't know if I like their strict "always kill" and "never kill" philosophies, especially given the shit you'll face in other jumps. Can we make an OC master who interprets the philosophies more liberally?

>>54272151
Obviously the solution is to include elements of any individual design considered subjectively attractive and then settle on something that, through constant refinement, is actually harmonious instead of an horrific mess.

>>54272363
Did you ever get him past .0002%?

>>54272412
Don't even need an OC. Saiga is pretty chill about the whole thing. He'll kill when he needs to but doesn't enjoy it.

>>54272178
>Breasts are useless on a vampire
>Vampires use breasts to lure in victims
>Vampires store excess blood in their breasts
I couldn't decide which of those comments I wanted to make.

>>54272239
>what the hell are conceptual aesthetics

>>54272208
>Appearance Perks which apply to Jumper no matter what Alt-form they are wearing

Stuff that just give you the quality of being beautiful as a primary attribute, instead of your beauty being a derived attribute based on how appealing a third party viewer finds your physical characteristics.

>>54272460
>Stuff that just give you the quality of being beautiful as a primary attribute, instead of your beauty being a derived attribute based on how appealing a third party viewer finds your physical characteristics.

that's not how beauty works at all though.

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>>54272429
>Did you ever get him past .0002%?
...It has been hard to find something that sacred me more than him in 45 %. Pic related

>>54272429
>Saiga
Is he any good as a master? I haven't read the serious, and all I know is that the ninja girl is a popular choice for a canon master.

>>54272153
>Breaking the Kalpic cycle
The Dragonborn in Skyrim does it, with some unwitting help from the long-gone Marukhati Selective. Basically, with Aka broken up into multiple shards, his world-eater aspect became its own being, Alduin. This already made it a lot harder to eat reality, because Alduin is much weaker and doesn't have other powers, and by killing Alduin or at least preventing him from doing his job, you stop him from destroying reality and creating a new Kalpa.

Funnily enough, in relation to your other goal, the Thalmor destablizing reality unwittingly also helps ensure the kaplic cycle is broken entirely, because when Nirn dies (along with the idiot Thalmor), there's no longer any possibility of consuming and remaking Mundus. Worth noting too, that Nirn dying doesn't destroy Mundus, and the people from Nirn go off to live first on Masser and Secunda, and then onward to all the other Aedra's god bodies.

>>54272519
Saiga is one of the best masters in the series. He trains up unarmed fighters to go into battle with weapon users in a couple of days.

>>54272158
Why not?

>>54272304
>>54272306
Kinda sounds like mantling, enatiomorph, and CHIM fuck with your sense of sense and essentially cause identity death? Am I right or misunderstanding?

>>54272318
Nobody, at first.

>>54272318
Segata Sanshiro, the true hero.

>>54272321
I said that though

>>54272557
>by killing Alduin or at least preventing him from doing his job, you stop him from destroying reality and creating a new Kalpa.
But you don't kill him for good. His soul flies off, you don't absorb it like other dragons.

>>54272318
None of those people. I didn't want to learn from the sorts of idiots who would look at a martial arts prodigy and declare that he's actually without talent and just making up for it with sheer hard work. No he isn't, the math does not support that concept.

>>54272158
There's a perk for that in Dragonball AF.

>>54272178
Problem there is you have to be a disgusting bloodsucker. Bit of a downside, unless you can be cool enough to make it not matter. But we can't all be like Alucard.

>>54272249
Does the jump even give you the opportunity to do that?

>>54272496
Think of it as a beauty that every observer will find beautiful and agree is beautiful regardless of their normal standards of beauty.

>>54272574
~shrug~ CHIM and the rest confuse the heck out of me.
Are they even desireable? Lorkhan went to some lengths to obtain enatiomorph, as did others, so presumably, yes. I mean, they wouldn't have deliberately pursued identity death, right?

>>54268269
>Have you ever turned off your power until the last minute to make fights more dramatic?
Turning it off? Nope. Holding back from using powers that couldn't be explained in-setting? Absolutely. This is actually my default. It's not for drama, it's for avoiding attention.

That said, I'll use them if I feel I need to.

>>54268330
>Last second power-ups out of nowhere are stupid.
It's pretty much the default for a lot of settings in jumps. Final forms, heroes pulling new powers out of their asses, etc.
Hell, it's practically expected of Heroes in A Practical Guide to Evil.

>>54272574
The Champion of Cyrodiil mantled Sheogorath. Sheogorath acts like Sheogorath, with only hints of the Champion showing at times.

>>54272557
Why is the turning of kalpa something you want to prevent? I mean, it takes something like sixteen billion years for a kalpa to end, humanity is going to be extinct long before then. Or does kalpa mean something different on Nirn?

>>54272640
>I mean, they wouldn't have deliberately pursued identity death, right?
Lorkhan probably would have. His whole goal was martyring himself so that someone might possibly achieve Amaranth some day.

>>54272233
>>54272198
Alduin gets more powerful by consuming more matter. His power and size grow with the more he eats. So no, stopping him stops him. There's no "When the time is right" here.

And yes this Kalpa is overdue. The Marukhati's actions retroactively split Aka into multiple shards (creating a stable timeloop), and thus retconned reality. In the present form of reality, Alduin was jealous of the biggest shard of Aka, Akatosh, for being seen as the main dragon god and being worshiped and beloved. And loathing of his own powers, he went off to Atmora to found his own civilization with the native Proto-Nords. He actually wasn't a tyrant, and was a good ruler, but later on things fell apart because he had a rule where you couldn't question the dragons. So when the Nords, Dragons, and Dragon-Priests first went to Tamriel, the Dragons, who were originally kept in line and forced to be just by Alduin, became corrupt and started abusing people with no oversight, same with the dragon priests. Eventually this lead to a rebellion, and when Alduin heard about it, uncaring of the reasons since they were breaking his laws, he went over there to destroy them. This is when Akatosh stepped in, giving Nords, creating the Dragonborn, (I don't remember if in the new lore this is when Kynereth stepped in and gave the nords in general the voice too, or if she did that earlier). So Alduin got his ass beat and that's when he went full triggered mode and abandoned his attempt at being a benevolent god-kin and decided he'd go back to destroying and eating things.

>>54272640
>Think of it as a beauty that every observer will find beautiful and agree is beautiful regardless of their normal standards of beauty.

But isn't that not A appearance so much as the ability to decide what appearances a person will find a aesthetically pleasing automatically when you are looked at?

>>54272631
>Or at least preventing him from doing his job
Read. We also know the eventual result of the future here, so this isn't a point of debate.

>>54272665
Kalpas are much shorter in Nirn. Probably only a few tens of thousands of years.

>>54272574
Misunderstanding.. sort of? CHIM is remaining yourself in the face of infinity, but mantling is you becoming someone else, and enantiomorph is kind of like the beginning of a new paradigm.

>>54272574
Mantling and Enatiomorph do, but CHIM is actually the opposite of losing your sense of self, it's actually reinforcing your sense of self against all odds. And Mantling varies, at least, depending on the identity you're taking up. It only changes you if you're walking like someone unlike you in the first place.

>>54272696
>We also know the eventual result of the future here, so this isn't a point of debate.
No, fuck Kirkbride's blog bullshit.

>>54272496
>that's not how beauty works at all though.
Think of it like this. Strength is normally based on the physics of your body.
You have bones of density A, muscles of thickness B, combined durability C, and contracting ability D, attached to bones at attachment point E with cohesive strength F. Plugging this into the physics simulation engine give a lifting strength of X pounds.

Then you have superheroes who can have a strength magnitudes higher that the results of the calculations. Something that either replaces the normal strength calculation of adds an X factor to it.

Conceptual Appearance is a superpower that disregards normal appearance calculation, or adds an additional value that is applicable to everyone's "how attractive is this person" calculation

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>>54272602
>Segata Sanshiro, the true hero.

Good choice anon

>>54272696
>Kalpas are much shorter in Nirn. Probably only a few tens of thousands of years.
Wow, that's horrifying, then. Who the hell designed their cosmos to be so unstable? I want to speak to their local Brahma equivalent, give him a stern talking-to. Also interrogate him on why people use the term "kalpa" when that's a Sanskrit word and as far as I know none of the nations of Tamriel are Sanskrit-equivalents. Who taught them that word?

>>54272737
>Fuck things that the developers consider to be at least partially canon and directly reference in the video games.

>>54272752
Lorkhan's idea was that reality would be an Arena, and it would force as many et'ada as possible into achieving a Walking Way and eventually Amaranth. The quick turn over is meant to stop stagnation.

>>54272752
I dunno, the Dunmer are basically Hindu-Arabian inspired.

>>54272745
>Conceptual Appearance is a superpower that disregards normal appearance calculation, or adds an additional value that is applicable to everyone's "how attractive is this person" calculation

I legitimately can't see how that is different than some kind of brainwashing that would override someone's sense of aesthetics

>>54272770
>Lorkhan's idea was that reality would be an Arena, and it would force as many et'ada as possible into achieving a Walking Way and eventually Amaranth. The quick turn over is meant to stop stagnation.
So are people in Nirn way better at reaching enlightenment than people here on Earth, then? Because it takes so much longer for a Buddha to leave the cycle here.

>>54272813
Do they speak Sanskrit, though? I admit I've only played Skyrim, and even then only like a fifth of the way through the game because it's so bad, but all the names of Dunmer in that game used different phonemes than Sanskrit. I don't think the word "kalpa" would be part of their language.

>>54272818
Imagine beauty as a formula:
Subjective Appearance = Beauty

Illusionary appearance changes do this:
(Subjective Appearance + Subjective shift) = Beauty

Conceptual Appearance changes ignore all of the above and simply apply "True" to Beauty.

>>54272818
Because being pretty and charming is brainwashing Am I Right?

Bancho please for all that is good just go to sb or qq or reddit or something and leave here. Please.

>>54272867
>So are people in Nirn way better at reaching enlightenment than people here on Earth, then?
You only need to reach a walking way to get out of the cycle, and those don't take any time. There's also a method of 'leaping' that lets you jump between kalpas and avoid getting eaten without having achieved a walking way, but the guy who invented and taught people this, the Leaper Demon King, was cursed by the world-eater into becoming a mindless destroyer.

>>54272901
All social interaction can be boiled down to "how to brainwash the other person into needing me"

>>54272867
>>54272922
Also no, they're not good at reaching the walking ways. It's exceedingly rare.

>>54272922
Dont forget walking sideways into other worlds.

>>54272893
>Conceptual Appearance changes ignore all of the above and simply apply "True" to Beauty.

I get what you're trying to say but it conflicts with my understanding of those processes.


>>54272901
no that's not what I'm trying to say, what I'm trying to say is that different people have different ideas of what is aesthetically appealing, which are based on different and often entirely contradictory forms of visual aesthetic and that in order to function a " conceptual aesthetic" would have to be able to either change to match its viewers personal tastes or Or change the personal tastes of its viewers so that it was the most appealing one at all times. I was not trying to say that being appealing is brainwashing in and of itself

>>54272867
You're being kind of autistic here. It's a fictional world. It's based in concepts found in some real religions/philosophies, but it's not the same.

>>54272940
That's another way to say 'leaping'.

>>54272867
It's easier to use the word Kalpa and explain it rather than invent a Dunmeri word that means 'kalpa', because then you have to explain two definitions.

>>54272962
Or, and I am just throwing this out there, you could get a bit of the platonic ideal of beauty. Meaning you would be attractive no matter what.

Things can be beautiful without having a sexual attraction attached to them. I can find a painting or vase beautiful even if they do not fit my tastes.

I can find an insect to be beautiful without having any kind of attraction, and in fact having a revulsion, to insects.

>>54272967
I get that, I'm just trying to understand how it's different, and if the ways it's different make it something worth stopping.

>>54272995
Yeah, but the average Elder Scrolls player isn't going to be familiar with obscure Hindu and Buddhist cosmological concepts anyway. They're not going to look at some word you made up and go "why not just call it a kalpa?".

>>54272928
Nerevarine-as-Usurper, Dagoth Ur-as-king, Vivec-as-Observer.
Champion becomes Sheogorath.
Hrm. Dragonborn-as-usurper, Alduin-as-king, X-as-Observer?

>>54273034
Look anon, the ultimate explanation for everything in TES lore is "Kirkbride is on drugs", because that's why.

>>54273051
I can see how a comparison can be drawn, but there's never any indication that the Nerevarine became part of an Enatiomorph and got absorbed into Vivec. There merely being a 'ruler', someone who overthrows him, and someone seeing it doesn't automatically make an enatiomorph take plcae. There's more to it.

And there's no reason to assume the Dragonborn went through one at all. It's not necessary to walk multiple Walking Ways.

>>54272962
Nope. There are underlying brain structures that ensure that certain things are found beautiful to any human with a neurologically normall brain. Symmetry, for example. I know you don't like that, but that's probably because of the various neurological disorders that you've acknowledged you have. In a normal human brain, symmetry is read as a sign of good health and is therefore considered an attractive trait. You don't have to override the sense of aesthetics, you just have to take advantage of those things that underlie the sense of aesthetics. It's like how you don't have to hack a computer if you've got root access.

>>54273103
>Neurologically normal
>/jc/

>>54273081
>It's not necessary to walk multiple Walking Ways.
Is there any implication that the Dragonborn walked ANY of the Ways?

>>54273081
I'm just considering that Events and Heroes might actually represent the conceptual weight of such happening, even if the result isn't actually taking the step.

>>54273131
The Dragonborn, just like every single one of the other protagonists, even the Nerevarine, is a Shezzarine, meaning they are unwittingly mantling Lorkhan. There's nothing to stop you from mantling multiple people at once if you walk like all of them. There's also the implication that the protagonists might all have achieved CHIM thanks to your 'it's a videogame' powers.

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What did you take in mage the awakening and why? I was thinking of taking Primes and maxxing it out so I could just wave my hand and create fuckloads of tass (I think that is the solidified magic) but forces and matter are looking cool too.

>>54265141
Way late to respond to this, sorry, I fell asleep. The perk is Opera House from Battlestar Galactica, if you're still around.

>>54273131
>>54273173
Oh also, I forgot to note, the Dragonborn in particular is mantling Talos too.

>>54272402
What?

>>54273143
It's really an unknown, I don't think that the conceptual concepts have much weight if the Enatiomorph isn't happening though, ingrained metaphysical concepts/roles aside.

>>54273191
You can choose a particular set of skills when starting a game of Master of Magic that are hilariously game breaking, allowing you to create magical artifacts and then break them to get twice the mana back that you spent to create them.

>>54273231
Fancy.

>>54273176
I took a nap.

>>54272402
>>54273231
Ah, the old Runemaster + Artificer trick. 25% of full cost for making artifacts, then break them for 50% of their full cost. Using this trick you'd have an effective per-turn income of your Spellcasting Skill in mana just from using the trick.

The jumpmaker also doesn't seem to like the concept of gaining anything other than bought-with-cp fiat abilities from a jump.

>>54273176
Space and Life both at Mastery so I can use Manifold Presence. Consider how many places a Jumper can be in at once when you start adding up magic boosters.

Also grabbed Time because I like it and being able to make accelerated time bubbles to cast big spells in, or jumping back in time a few seconds is a good safety net.

>>54273311
Fortunately you can use out of jump perks to learn the spells, or make your own versions anyway.

>>54273231
>particular set of skills when starting a game of Master of Magic that are hilariously game breaking
Not game breaking. takes 8 of 11 picks to use, and there is a magic channeling limit per turn based on your skill. It basically lets you gain mana instead of casting a spell. Or cast a spell that gathers magic.

Notice how the 'trick' is in the official strategy guide, and never got patched?

>>54273173
>>54273188
Okay, someone trying to understand here. All Shezzarines automatically Mantle Lorkhan regardless of their intent and actions? What even happens if you mantle multiple deities? And why would you want to Mantle an existing one anyway, since you get subsumed?

Also, isn't Talos already Lorkhan?

>>54273481
Think of it this way: You, the player, are Lorkhan. By loading the game, your character now acts like you would (you control the character's actions) thus bringing them into a state closer to yourself (they're mantling you-as-Lorkhan.)

>>54273551
What about when I actively choose to act different in the game than myself?

>>54273481
Nothing stops multiple people from mantling something.

Lorkahn is in the world, the world is his body and his soul, and Lorkhan was torn into pieces. Thus, anyone can mantle Lorkhan, and mantling Lorkhan doesn't absorb you into a single entity or them into you.

>>54273584
All good tricksters know how to play pretend.

>>54273584
It's still acting as you would- You would actively choose to do so, therefore the character does.

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>>54273103
oh okay, but That sounds kind of Sterile I don't think I would ever go for something like that.

>>54273551
>>54273608
But do you actually gain anything by Mantling Lorkhan, then?

>>54272402
>>54273311
>Ah, the old Runemaster + Artificer trick
My favored MoM build is
Alchemist+
Artificer+
Node Mastery+
Rune Mastery+
Life (2 Spellbooks)+
Chaos (2 Spellbooks)+
Nature (2 Spellbooks)+
Sorcery (1 Spellbooks)
Sometimes switching around which one has 1 spellbook.
Lets you learn the Common and Uncommon spells from every school except Death, and Rare spells from 3 schools from 3/5 of all schools. Great for trading spells with other wizards, and retrading those spells for even more spells. And finding a 3rd spellbook of a school unlocks its Very Rare spells. I've had many games where I knew the majority of all spells in the game.

I love the game, but hate the MoM Jump because canon builds are not even possible. It really needs a 600 - 800 CP "Any canon build" option.

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>>54271178
My understanding of it is... Elder Scrolls is all fake. Like, in canon, everything you do and talk to, it's all a dream, a simulation, fake. Should any person in the dream realize that they are a dream, one of two things happen: either they vanish in a puff of logic, or they retain their sense of self despite knowing that they do not exist, and basically gain reality hacking powers because nothing matters, so fuck it, why the hell not do whatever you want? Fuck logic, and fuck the world!

Anyway, I personally ruled that I could not achieve CHIM, even if I knew how, because I am real. That's not like some meta commentary or anything (although it TOTALLY SHOULD BE), rather, I came as an entity outside the universe and therefore was not part of the dream, merely a visitor to it. Even with a background, to achieve CHIM would require me to effectively dump all my outside context powers and become entirely part of the dream, and gosh darn it, I'm just not willing to do that.

That was my ruling, anyway.

>>54272158
Super Saiyans are a biological thing, so... I dunno. I think they'd be inherently different mechanisms with slightly different qualities for each race. Like, Freeza has his Golden form, and I guess that would be like his version of Super Saiyan? But it's still kindof different from Super Saiyan.

>>54272318
I'm mostly self-taught by watching other martial artists and stealing their moves.

>>54273664
It empowers you, it would seem. See, Lorkhan doesn't like the idea of people genociding races that are aligned with him. So the Nords, who are aligned with him, have been trying to genocide the Dunmer for ages because reeee elves, right? Well the Dunmer are aligned with him too, so he's part of the reason why it doesn't happen. Any time a Shezzarine is leading the Nords against the Dunmer, Lorkhan withdraws their power and they get their ass beat.

>>54272318
Master Wakahisa and Master Wu all the way back in Wuxia. because That jump has one true build Syndrome like no other,I've done the math.

>>54272158
>Chart shows every major and many minor races transforming
>Except humans

>>54273841
Humans are on there.

>>54272318
A sifu at my local gym. Am I the only jumper who knew a martial art before starting their adventure?

>>54272158
>Anthros
>Angry Anthro
>Fiery Anthro
>Giant Anthro
>Anthro Shapeshift
So is this a list of forms for the Universe 9 fighters or a list of someone's fetishes?

>>54273851
I see them now.

Where the fuck is Human SSJ from?

>>54273864
I have no clue, maybe the half bloods? Or possibly pan?

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>>54273864
>Where the fuck is Human SSJ from?
Mr Satan the hero of earth you dumbfuck. Also that past human hero who sparred with goku in the afterlife.

>>54273891
I think there was some MMORPG where the player character could wish for a transformation, and if you were human it would turn out that you had just enough Saiyan blood in you to go SS.

>>54273854
I did a little Karate when I was young.

>>54273854
I took tae kwon do classes.

>>54273854

I used to practice Aikido

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>>54273864
I don't know but I can only imagine what it looks like

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>>54273678
You aren't too far off actually. In elder scrolls lore lorkhan figured immortal beings like gods couldn't go CHIM because they had always been 'infinite' so they didn't know the true pleasure of shedding limits but a mortal can do it because they are not infinite. A jumper might go either way really, they both truly understand mortality but at the same time they've kind of shed it.

I like to imagine the jumper on the precipice of CHIM, viewing the tower while going through a Space Odyssey style sequence, the falsities of reality and the truth of the dream flashing past them, they're almost there...

And then Jumpchan kind of pops up out of nowhere, says 'Woah now let's not get too far ahead of ourselves' and then packs up your CHIM into a neat little ball and slam dunks it it hrough a basketball hoop labeled "Post Spark".

>>54273854
Used to but that was years ago and I don't know if that means anything.

>>54273726
>have been trying to genocide the Dunmer
I never understood that. Dunmer are the only non shit elves and actually like the fact that the world was created. Why do Nords have to be so pissy about them in particular?

>>54271178
>>54273678
>>54271256
>>54271975
>>54271975
>>54271225
Makes you wonder what would happen if you take all the dream-god perks on settings like TES, Lovecraft and others when the reality is dependant on a single being's dreaming.

>>54274166
Because they're elves and Nords are eternally triggered by elves. Plus it's the only elvish province that borders Skyrim, so if they want to conquer more land and purge some elves, it's the only place to go.

>>54274166
Because the volcano sitting smack-dab in the middle of Morrowind erupted, and now the Dunmer TOOK MUH JOB

>>54273463
It's not overpowered at all, and doing so ties up your spellcasting actions each turn you want the income.

>>54273677
I've always favored Death, myself.
IIRC, my build was something like Death 4, Infernal Power, Alchemist, Archmage, Conjuror. I'd focus most of my early efforts on raiding ruins and fallen temples (spellbooks generated are Death books) before going for anything that wasn't necessary.

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>>54272318
Master Yang from Generic Xanxia taught me cool tricks, like how to use different types of cultivation ki in stuff it was not intended for. His teaching style empathized more in wits and creative use of moves than actual raw power

This resulted in some interesting stuff happening the first time around. Like me accidentally launching myself in the air when I used wind cultivation instead of earth cultivation in a move.

>>54274223
The Nords were trying to kill the Dunmer long before that, long before there was an Empire.

what are sidereal waifus like?

>>54274342
There are legends about Sidereal waifus, but nobody can remember any in particular.

Hey all, I haven;t been able to find a Grimm (tv show) Jumpchain on the drive, and am staking my claim to make the jump.

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>>54274342
Inexplicable.

Iron Siaka is pretty cool. She just wants to beat up creatures of darkness, and make them leave Creation alone. Somehow, she's a Chosen of /Serenity/.

Not sure if waifu material though.

Anyway, other prospects are slim. You might want to consider that one Sidereal who assassinated a cow in bondage gear (pic related). She seems like fun.

>>54274439
I haven't heard anyone having a claim to it, so go ahead. I'll look forward to it. Thanks for taking it up.

>>54274281
Phineas needs help, but today's medical advances are inadequate to fix him. The only way to fix his deformities would be with one of his cutting-edge inventions, but he lacks the presence of mind to understand the horror of his condition. An ironic sort of tragedy.

>>54274281
>Phineas
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>54274555
SLEEP CHILD
IN MY EMBRACE ALL SHALL BECOME GOOD
SLEEP UNTIL THIS PALEBLOOD SUMMER PASSES

>>54274169
>That one perk from Gravity Falls that makes you basically omnipotent in dreams
Jumping Lovecraft after getting that would be a pretty interesting experience.

>>54274597
Speaking of Paleblood what does the Bloodborne world look like? I'm unfamiliar with the game, save for the little bit of info I got fro the Jump.

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>>54272318
See that lady in the pink on the lower right? She did. I learned how to sword, knife, mace, spear, ladder, spoon, game controller, gun, shuriken, bamboo and just every every other weapon you can think of from her in like Jump 3 and it has served me extremely well.

>>54274627
Lots of greys and blacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PofO32sS8s

>>54274695
>Lots of greys and blacks.
das rassist!

>>54274803
I mean, that's why the setting is such a horrible place to be.

Too many grays and blacks.

>>54274943
That is extremely problematic to say that. It is not okay to say that.

>>54274627
Think Victorian Era England after an infrastructure collapse. Buildings are boarded up, lunatics and mobs wander the streets, corpses in the gutters, beasts hoisted up on burning crucifixes and all that shit going on. Outside of Yharnam (the main city), you'll mostly just find shanty towns or wilderness a few exceptions like Castle Cainhurst which is filled with ghosts and not!vampires and looks like the abandoned home of aristocrats.

Aside from the more obvious parts, there's also some really freaky shit here and there since it is a partial Lovecraft setting. Beyond the areas within the game, you can probably assume it looks mostly like Victorian Era Europe though.

>>54274252
>Conjuror
Don't usually use conjurer, but did you know Mana free conjuring is possible in the schools of Chaos, Nature, or Sorcery?
Takes 15 picks, so you need to find 4 spellbooks or retorts after the game starts, and probably aggressive use of saves. 13 spellbooks of one of the above schools, the matching Mastery retort, and conjurer. the casting discounts add up to 100%. Spam Elementals or Phantoms in every battle, or stack after stack of on demand summoned monsters if you have an enchanted road network.

MoM is cool for all the amazingly cool de facto win conditions besides just the spell of magic if you can set them up. Like the summon spam above, or just having so much magic skill and mana income you can trivially Spell Blast away all any spell you dislike the turn before they cast it. or setting the entire world except you on fire, while terraforming your to be ultra productive.

>>54274439
Try to make it a not power grab this time.

>>54274519
>>54274555
I don't get it.

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>>54275063
The character Phineas from the show Phineas and Ferb is drawn with a specific art style that means he's pretty much always viewed from the side. When you take that character into the 3D world there are obvious problems, as illustrated here >>54275121

>>54275055
It will not be a power grab, the setting prohibits it but there will definitely be a hell of a lot of fun things.

What jumps have perks for avoiding the accidental breaking of everything due to jumper strength?

>>54274998
no, I'm just saying that the mixture of gray and black signifies that the setting is a somber one with little hope or happiness, relying upon negativity and violence for content.

I personally would really like to see Bloodborne but with bright red, high contrast blood. It would add a Hotline Miami or Superhot type asthetic to the game.

>>54275148
Doubt it. Probably going to be another Vampire Diaries, given how you are and where you're from.

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So I'm sure you jumpers have ways to just quickly make whatever you want on the spot.

But when you're making you're greatest works, whether mundane, magical, or supertech... Where do you do so?

Do you have mighty forges, arcane places of power, ateliers of the arts, or simple workshops?