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NEW CHAPTER CAME OUT TODAY(yesterday) LET'S READ IT BOYS.
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>>54262130
the color didn't last long.
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>>54262194
>MLD in a monogreen deck.
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>>54262211
c-cute
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>>54262099
There's a fucking manga about Magic ?!! Is it like official ? How come Wizard of the coast hasn't sued the author into oblivion ?
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>>54262261
>>54262250
calm yourself nig. it's a magic exspy
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>>54262279
shit, i didn't get to finish my thought before it autoposted. it's like changing mcDonald's into WacDonalds in a cartoon. The game they play in-universe is essentially magic but not actually mtg.
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>>54262341
>read the fucking card.
christ it really is like magic.
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>>54262400
I thought she was gonna say she could hear the heart of the cards for a bit
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>>54262454
she's so cute.
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>>54262472
>burn player is a literal kiddie
i love this manga
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>>54262341
>>54262358
>>54262375
>This person is terrible
Get over yourself kid. You're learning and you should pay more attention to the wording on cards. Take the lesson and move on.
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>in a tournament
>doesn't recognize a clearly meta counter to her deck's win condition
:thunk:
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>>54262514
That has to be a bad translation, right?
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>>54262539
and time for the after credits.
So what did you think guys? hype for the next chapter? I know i've been hyped to see her play a burn player since the start.
>>54262544
might be? maybe it's supposed to be sensei.
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>>54262561
fucking scanlators, any anon care to translate?
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>>54262483
>>burn player is a literal kiddie
well duh, the fucking manabase for high-level tournament play probably costs like a car so burn is the only shit a kid like him can afford.
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>>54262561
I'm hype since this might be only deck that poses a credible threat to our MC. Also burn kiddie is perfect
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>no rape scene
what the fuck kind of manga is this?
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Thanks for sharing!
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>>54262748
I dunno, she raped that girl's deck pretty well.
>Manaka carefully pulled down komorigirl's underwear, and with a heartless smirk, she sent her fingers down to explore her prey.
>"I knew you ran a forest deck, but I didn't think you'd take it so far"
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>>54262211
SO MUCH FORESHADOWING OF THE BURN DECK
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>>54262418
I love how this has the stereotypical manga defeated opponents become your friends shit going on.
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>>54263752
>Manaka enjoying herself
Immersion broken.
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>>54264698
But it's all the better because the Protagonist isn't using their powers of friendship, they're all just decent, nice people who want the person who beat them to continue winning.
Manaka is absolutely clueless as to why they're being buddy buddy with her.
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>>54264809
Imagine it as taking place in Komigiri's mind.
...Shit, that's basically Food Wars with card games.
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Watch as she T1 drops the setting equivalent of Chalice of the Void or some shit.
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>>54264809
Yeah, but it's not card games, so there's a chance.
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>>54262544
If you can find the untranslated version anywhere, look for マスター or something that looks similar. If you see that, then it's literally the english word "master".
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>>54262250
They did. Originally it was straight up MTG but Wizards of the Coast flexed their muscle and he changed it up enough to avoid being sued.
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>>54265134
She. The author is a woman
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>the art seems familiar
>let's check
>same mangaka as SSiB
Sold.
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>>54264698
In this manga you need to use the power of suffering to win.
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>>54264839
Komigiri definitely has some unprofessional thoughts about the idol.
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>>54265385
>Manaka's beaten everyone before her because they were happy people, and couldn't stand up to her suffering
>Once Manaka wins the money, she'll have the exhibition match with the Idol, her desperation to win gone and her finally being happy because her family isn't in crippling debt anymore
>Idol is actually a ball of despair and sadness from having a terrible work/life balance and not actually liking Wizard's Soul, just being extremely good at it
>Manaka gets curbstomped
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>>54265533
Fuck the heart of the cards, I want this heart of sadness
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>>54262150
>picks a theme
>skirts the edge of that theme to make the deck playable
Oh no this is how I build decks.
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>>54262561
Literally Craw Wurm
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>>54264809
Good point. It'd be more like...
>Manaka hid her face with her hand, staring at her cards to try and focus on that - trying to do anything to block out her embarrassment.
>The tournament money hadn't been enough, she'd needed more. And so she'd entered another one, more exclusive, recommended by Kusama-san.
>Obviously she'd had more of a grudge than Manaka had realised, as she sat opposite Komorigiri once again - who was blushing furiously.
>Strip Wizard's Soul
>Manaka drew another card to try and stop herself from blushing - projecting the same cold, emotionless wall that had won her so many games before.
>"I attack with all my creatures..."
>Komorigiri yelped in surprise, and then stood up to slowly slide off her panties.
>"That's... that's it then. I lose." she was now as red as a rose. And Manaka shuddered inwardly, as she knew that she had to pluck the petals from that rose.
>"Not yet."
>Komorigiri looked at where Manaka was pointing - her Dryad's Palace.
>"Owner does not lose game when they run out of life points, as long as they have a monster with Forest in its name in play. Whenever you would take damage when you have 0 life points, sacrifice a monster with Forest in its name."
>Komorigiri looked at it. And looked at her swarm of forest animals.
>"B-but... I can't take off any more clothes. I-I'm naked!" she squealed.
>Manaka's expression never changed as she stood up, and drifted behind Komorigiri. "I'll have to find another way to punish you then."
>Manaka pulled Komorigiri's hands behind her back, exposing her. She hated this, she was sure that Komorigiri would never forgive her for the violation.
>But she wouldn't win until all the Forest animals were destroyed, and until she'd punished Komorigiri for each and every one.
>Oh, and Eita and Futomin were nearby commenting on the cards and violations used.
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>>54265385
Manaka's mom doesn't have to believe in the heart of the cards, she just has to fill the hole in her heart.
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Prediction vs BURN: game one loss, game two crushing win, game three is a good old turnaround
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>>54269114
I can't remember if this is still being serialized or not but the burn deck has been hyped up repeatedly across the chapters. If the manga is still going on in Japan I could see a loss here, if it's cancelled (and I think it was around the 30-40 mark?) then I think she wins but takes either a curbstomp loss or has a complete curbstomp victory.
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>>54269304
I'd be neat if she lost but got picked up by a team for more events because holy shit this person we never heard of came within a hairs breath of cock punching the meta with a deck literally no one takes seriously.
She still needs the money so she has to accept and thus begins her life as a pro Wiz-Souls player and we can then have all the tasty drama of balancing school/training/friends and still trying to find the money.
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>>54269491
Nah, that's for the dark sequel doujins written by ShindoL.
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>>54268281
where can i read your fic
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>>54269594
Wat?
That feels like a bit of a jump Anon, I was just thinking of how to progress the story with Manaka still having a reason to play. It's basically already a sports manga so I just figured that's how one of those might go.
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>>54270011
True, thread just distracted me, and the whole set up of girl having to raise a lot of cash fast is very much something they'd go for.
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Oh shit, this is actually the first chapter of the last volume. We probably only have about 4 chapters to go.
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>>54269304
I thought it ended at 22.
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>>54270265
Hopefully it does well enough to pick up a second series. It's a lot of fun.
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>>54270296
A-anon, I don't know how to break this to you.
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>>54269747
Generally here.
I'll do more later. (if you have any specific requests, just say)
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>>54271947
I'd really enjoy Roman overpowering Manaka's misery and convincing her to go on a cute date.
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>>54265385
Sounds just like Magic.
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It's rather obvious that WIzard's Souls is the alternate reality version of Magic the Gathering.
The first point of divergance is, of course, the game's name itself - when Richard Garfield couldn't get the name 'Mana Clash', he went with 'Wizard's Soul' instead of MtG. This, of course, had a few unintended side effects - Arabian Nights would've been originally Arabian Soul before sense prevailed, and there's a popular video game series called Demon/Dark Gathering.
In addition, basic lands were given exceedingly generic names to start, and not called 'lands', thus paving the way for resources in general to not represent lands, and for them to not always be plains/islands/etc.
In general, the game was an even bigger hit than Magic ever was, and thus when Chronicles came around, they were able to tell collectors to fuck off about their bitching and moaning - this means there is no reserved list, and has lead to more reprints of important cards and thus Legacy being the format of choice for major tournaments.
Maro didn't lose control of the Weatherlight Saga immediately, and with the funds for an actual dev team, the block after Tempest Block (now Mercadian Masks) didn't break the game in half - and the block afterwards didn't suffer for it. Said block was Urza's Block, and it was there, with Serra Angels and Phyrexian Demons, that angels and demons got what the real world knows as the rebel and mercenary mechanics associated with them. The association has lasted ever since.
Much of the actual rules changes are the result of their version of the 6th Edition Rules, taking a far more drastic approach to the changes.
Manaka learned to play against her mother in 2002 - this one is obvious since they're blatantly talking about Odyssey and Torment cards (and block).
Different cards and cardnames and setnames are due to everyone's favorite butterfly, of course.If I'm counting years right they should be at somewhere around Alara block but fuck if I know
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>>54273312
>tfw you were born in the wrong timeline to play card games with cute anime girls
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>>54271947
I'm just interested in more of your stuff, anon. Do you write anywhere else, is what I mean.
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>>54272207
Not sure if you want lewd, so I'll just do the date for now...
>Manaka stared at the hand in front of her, almost flinching at it.
>She'd expected those she'd beaten to still be angry with her - like Eita had been. And the way she'd beaten Asahara had been merciless.
>Even when she'd met her afterwards, given Manaka her number, Manaka had expected it to have been fake - that Asahara was just putting on a brave face.
>Just like she was.
>And yet, Asahara was here, had answered the phone and come out to meet her, and...
>Manaka realised she was staring.
>"T-thank you," Manaka stammered, taking Asahara's hand in her own.
>"I'm really glad you wanted to meet up," Asahara said as she smiled, "I'm really happy to have met another Romantic player."
>Manaka wasn't sure how to respond, she bit her tongue to stop herself from making a stupid comment, or revealing how bad she was.
>She waited until her heart stopped beating so fast, and then finally spoke once more: "...Sorry."
>It was Asahara's turn to look blank, "what for?"
>"I," she paused once more, "I stole the victory that you worked so hard to create." She couldn't give voice to the idea that Asahara would hate her.
>Instead Asahara just pulled her close, into a comforting embrace. "I could never hate you, not a kindred spirit who loves the romantic win."
>Manaka couldn't stop herself, tears started seeping, flood gates opening as she started to cry.
>She so wanted to tell Asahara the truth, but she was so comforting, so kind. Maybe she could lie a little longer.
(...)
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>>54273905
>The restaurant was deceptively quiet. Couples all around them deliberately ignored the pair of girls - highly ranked girls - enjoying their desserts.
>Of course, they would be the talk of gossip, "Two tournament talents talk tricks of the trade" or such.
>But Manaka didn't care. For once, she was enjoying herself. She gave a smile to Asahara, a weak one, but at least it was genuine. "Thank you," she said.
>Asahara smiled back, one of her wonderful, beaming, excited grins that often accompanied the sight of some rare card finally turning up in a draw.
>But here, right now, it was directed at Manaka. Just enjoying her company.
>And then Asahara grabbed her napkin, and reached for Manaka's cheek to brush away a small piece of cream. "It's you I should thank."
>She held out her hand once again, across the table. This time Manaka didn't hold back or flinch, and found her fingers interlocking with Asahara's.
>"All this time, I've only seen people play decks that are strong for the current meta. Few make it that far otherwise," she held Manaka's hand tight.
>Manaka wanted to burst into tears, "It's not..."
>But Asahara held a finger to Manaka's lips, silencing her. "But you," she blushed slightly, "well, your deck... romance is also said to be about love. And although you hide it, I can tell you have a lot of love."
>Manaka was about to deny it, but then thoughts of her dad and sisters, of her mom, of Eita, flashed through her head. Followed by Asahara's smile.
>The one she'd destroyed.
>The one in front of her now.
>The one she'd do anything to see again.
>Manaka smiled, and held onto Asahara's hand even tighter.
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>>54273658
Ah well, I'm not much of a writer. I've generally stuck to a few greens.
I'm just glad if people can enjoy it.
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>>54265134
>Originally it was straight up MTG but Wizards of the Coast flexed their muscle and he changed it up enough to avoid being sued.
What do you base this on? There's no indication of it in the comic itself, in the omake, or anything. On the contrary, in the omake about the preparations for the manga she mentions asking her assistant for one of the card game rule sets that he makes as a hobby to use as Wizard's Soul.
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>>54273952
Fair enough.
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>>54273905
Either or would have done Anon, think for being a champ that can deliver because this super cute.
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>>54274313
Sorry I don't have more I could really share.
>>54274499
No problem! Wasn't sure, so decided to play it safe. But if you'd like lewd...
>Asahara pulled Manaka's arm, bringing her into the hotel room. It was a sobering reminder that Asahara had her own life, her own home. She wouldn't be here for long.
>But maybe it would be long enough.
>Manaka looked around the hotel room, taking in the suitcase full of card binders, deck boxes, and other Wizard Soul accessories. It was just like being at the shop, somewhere safe. She felt her body start to relax.
>Manaka froze as she felt Asahara's arms embrace her from behind. Pulling her in tight. "Thanks for coming to my room. I'm so sorry I'll be going home soon. Would you... would you like to have some fun while we still can?"
>Manaka looked at the arms holding her, so warm and comforting. "Um... I didn't bring my deck," she confessed.
>Asahara pulled back, releasing Manaka from the surprising - if welcome - embrace.
>Instead she took a grip around Manaka's arm and led her to the hotel bed.
>"I wasn't thinking Wizard's Soul," Asahara confessed, biting her lip as she sat down on the bed, patting next to her, for Manaka to join her.
>Manaka sat down, a look of confusion on her face - that turned to surprise as Asahara leaned forward and kissed her.
>The two sat there, lips joined, doing nothing else. Just enjoying the simple touch.
>Finally, Asahara broke off. "You're beautiful," she beamed, "I'd really like to see all of your beauty at once."
>Manaka was frozen, shocked, but she still blushed. Eventually she nodded, her hands going to undo her top.
>"Please, let me," Asahara pulled Manaka's arms away, and carefully pushed her to the bed.
>And then she set to work.
>Asahara undid buttons slowly, drawing it out as Manaka blushed - attempting to hide her face in her hands. She still peaked through them, to watch how Asahara finally exposed her bra and belly.
(...)
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>>54275178
>A hand crawled beneath Manaka, unhooking her bra, and returning with it. Dangling it in front of her face. "Halfway there," Asahara said, her smile still full of warmth, but now met with a deep anticipation.
>She was just as slow with Manaka's skirt, dragging it down her legs, revealing the plain white pair of panties beneath it.
>This was the final defender of Manaka's body. All that separated her from Asahara's wandering eyes. It was hard to believe that with just one tug, she'd be utterly naked before her. The terrible, wonderful romantic.
>And there it was, her panties pulled down, past her knees, and hanging around her ankles. She was exposed, as Asahara moved to holding Manaka's hands. She couldn't even hide her small breasts, or intimate area now.
>Her heart skipped a beat as Manaka truly realised she was at Asahara's mercy.
>But Asahara was gentle, kissing Manaka - first on the lips, and then tracing a path lower and lower. Her neck, then her shoulders, going down to her breasts.
>Asahara continued, the smallest of kisses to Manaka's belly, and then just above her crotch...
>Manaka couldn't hold in the squeal of pleasure as Asahara's mouth reached her pussy, she blushed at the thought, even as it was driven out by the sensation of her tongue gently-but-firmly starting to tease her.
>Manaka gasped as her friend turned lover intimately explored her body.
>She writhed in delight as Asahara's tongue probed deep inside, clenched her fingers and toes as her clit was teased, and gave out a deep cry of satisfaction as Asahara's hands released her, only to turn their attention to Manaka's petite chest.
>Finally, she could hold back no longer, running her hands through Asahara's flowing hair as she was driven to orgasm. She felt weak, exhausted, and oh so good.
>Asahara pulled back, climbing next to Manaka in bed, and then kissed her again.
(...)
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>>54275247
>This time it tasted different, something so wonderful, so familiar. Manaka realised that she was tasting herself, her own pussy, her own orgasm.
>She blushed.
>Asahara drew away, still smiling. She looked at Manaka and then turned away, bashfully. "Would you, uh... would you do the same for me?" she begged.
>Manaka ran her fingers across her lips, still stained by her own arousal.
>"I'd love to," she found herself saying.
>The night together stretched on for hours.
>It wouldn't be enough. Nothing could be.
>But there would be other tournaments. Other opportunities.
>And now, Manaka would be looking forward to them.
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>Oh boy new WS thread! Can't wait for 50 posts of "yeah I know this feeling"
>O-oh...
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>>54275314
Ah, but which feeling would you rather know?
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>>54262150
Wow, that one actually hit home.
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>>54262150
You know, 'Elvish Story' is clearly Lorwyn.
This only helps my case here >>54273312
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>>54265577
THE SPLEEN OF THE CARDS
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>>54277012
With the recent Angel focus, Alara might fit with Bant.
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>>54276260
Yeah, I suck at mechanically good decks. I just like nice themes.
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>>54280744
It also fits with the ludicrously expensive angel being Baneslayer, first published in M10, between Alara Reborn and Zendikar.
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>>54265385
Fucking metal.
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>>54284206
That makes sense.so three sets until tentacles.
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>>54262544
>>54265132
The word is likely shishou (師匠) which is often translated as master. It's what students call their teachers in a dojo and in similar situations
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do the cute boy sucks the big dick in this one?
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>>54285317
Nah, only dudes so far have been straight. Eita wants Manakato keep beating him in card gamesthere was that guy with a harem, and now there's a shota.
I miss the shop owner, he was sensible.
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>>54262099
You mean translated right? i thought this thing ended a long time ago.
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>>54285481
The good die so young. Because people have shit taste.
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>>54286548
If it got released over here, I'd have bought it.
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>>54285481
This author has a habit of short stories, this one only lasts what. Four volumes? I think that's good for a single focused love story/trip through despair.
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>>54288357
Maybe she could return, but with a different subtitle and plot.
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Manaka loses the final match.
Epilogue is all the friends(??) she made via osmosis pitching in to help her out with her situation and encouraging her to enjoy the game some.
You're welcome.
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>>54290365
This is a terrible ending.
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>>54290365
I don't believe you.
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>>54290365
She will win and manga will continue with her as a main character.
R-Right guys?
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>>54290927
The manga's already over in Japan.
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>>54290365
>Implying I haven't already read the raws
>Implying I'm not just here for the ride
So about that Samurai problem you had?
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>>54262099
>NEW CHAPTER
FUCKING WHAT, HOLY SHIT! YES!
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>>54262099
lovely chapter rip the moe rip the manga
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>>54297569
>Snarky Manaka
Fuck
Yes.
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>>54299315
you could almost certainly rewrite the whole manga with manaka as an asshole. the joke does wear a bit though.
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What is the name of that manga about boardgames? With the buff gameshop owner that likes german boardgames?
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>>54273312
>>54277012
It's closer to Yugioh, or Legend of Koizumi in how widespread it is. Richard Garfield would be like fucking Pegasus in this world.
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>>54300237
>Kozomi accidentally gets the marriage proposal card he made for his wife.
>Plays it against someone who isn't Eita.
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>>54301285
I mean Manaka. I'm a moron
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>>54299984
I seriously want someone to do it. Makes me laugh every time.
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>>54262561
this makes me miss more normal creatures being in magic. something fun about angels killing bears.
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>>54301384
I'd do it if I was witty enough.
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>>54301682
>goat tribal is rated 2 on the storm scale
I'm not very optimistic about the future of regular animals in mtg
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>>54297569
>>54299984
>>54301384
I made all three of these and after the third I realized I was already reaching for it. Also I don't have the attention span to actually rewrite 4 volumes of a manga.
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>>54290674
Not really. The final match is an exhibition match, remember? She'd already have won the tournament, no?
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>>54303534
That's the problem.
She's got the money, she can stop being tragic, so her card drawing goes to shit.
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>>54304082
or she just uses a different deck for the exhibition and goes back to her derpy scrub style like at the start of the manga.
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>>54304139
>Gets crushed for the first two games and it ends without a third
>She's playing her old deck, not using any good plays and just getting annihilated by the idol
>She's smiling and laughing the whole time
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>>54304139
Is that allowed? I figured that even for an exhibition match she'd be limited to her decklist.
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>>54262182
>>54262170
>>54262150
>>54262137
So this is Yugioh? I never knew.
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>>54304244
It's a system she had a friend give her, since he invented ccg rules for fun. It's got more in common with MtG.
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>>54304332
When do they play the card game while riding motorcycles?
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>>54304332
It's literally mtg with a few bells and whistles added on that would be veryfunin the game proper
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>>54303412
okay, looking back through earlier volumes, this might more amusing than I thought.
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>>54304472
Did you just edit her to be fucking smiling? My god, the smugness is off the charts.
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>>54304472
>smug as fuck
>still plays against kids using precons, but wins against them with fucking precons
>Dude is in love with the smug because LOOKIT THAT SMUG
>reason for tourney is probably something like "I bet I could beat all these scrubs with jank.dec"
>the creature she does 20 turn kill with is edited to saying 'unblockable, doesn't die to removal'
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>>54304926
>'unblockable, doesn't die to removal'
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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>>54304553
I think flipping her mouth in like 50% of the panels she's in serious mode would make her look like a smug bitch on its own.
>>54304926
the image of the card when she did it the second time has "Avoidance (all)" pshoooping invisible stalker over that would honestly not even be out of line.
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>>54304460
Yeah, soul crystals are neat. Also the orange colour.
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>>54304926
>still plays against kids using precons, but wins against them with fucking precons
>Dude is in love with the smug because LOOKIT THAT SMUG
>reason for tourney is probably something like "I bet I could beat all these scrubs with jank.dec"
I'm actually more enamored with the idea of rewriting as little as possible while still changing the entire context of manaka as a character. basically just change it so her mom was a no fun allowed tourney douche who literally told manaka to git good, and have manaka channel the spirit of the ur smug bitch rather than get all cold and depressive about how she's stealing everyone's fun. basically turn it from a girl grappling with the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation she sees in the dichotomy of fun and success and turn it into a jekyl and hyde comedy.
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>>54305484
Biggest thing with that is giving her a reason why she doesn't play normally, then, other than vs kids via precons. Main reason why the third's there, the others are just silly things to add more smug in.Also, thinking on it, it'd be more amusing if her dad made the bet anyways...
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>>54305636
Her mom obviously died from terminal smug. It's terribly dangerous.
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>>54305636
to me that makes the most sense. it's the same as why she can't win unless she plays control, she learned from a smug bitch so the only way she knows to play seriously is as a smug bitch.
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>>54305466
>orange
I don't remember seeing any orange cards. Where did they appear?
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>>54306000
Asahara's decklist has a 6th colour using the letter O. Orange seemed the best bet.
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>>54265134
That's good, the manga is better for it.
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>>54306209
Damn, I need to read the postchapter notes more carefully
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What would a Wizard's Soul unset look like?
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What is this about and why should I read it?
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>>54309935
Girl living in a card-game obsessed world hates card games. But she needs to win a tournament to get money to get her family out of debt.
So she builds the most no fun allowed, anti meta deck to win as efficiently as possible.
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>>54309028standard legal
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>>54306470
Unfortunately that seems to be the only one with that level of info.
Also, here's the most recently released expansion for Wizard's Soul, for those interested in comparisons to MtG
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>>54262390
>Sideboarding around a jack combo that cost you game 1 and not what your opponent is going to board in.
Damn she dumb. Cute, but dumb.
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>>54315777
EIther Conflux/Alara Reborn (and thus Bolas is the LORD OF APOCALYPSE) or there's some slight temporal wonkery and it's Rise of the Eldrazi.There's slight temporal wonkery regardless because it's December IIRC and that means release orders are all fucked up
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>>54306209
O may be a stand in for 0 or Null. Like a colorless creature.
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Shouldn't this shit be at /a/?
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>>54317364
It's a manga about traditional games. Very few manga meet the requirements to be on /tg/, and wizard's soul is one of them.
Besides, 70% of the cunts on /a/ wouldn't be able to appreciate it being an MtG clone.
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>>54317390
They can, but same time think of the shit they can ready already besides this. Regardless or not, this is a manga that should be at the manga board which is also /a/.
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>>54317408
I mean, you could put it on /a/, but it's also /tg/. There are subjects that fulfill multiple board requirements, you know.
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>>54317294
True, anus mana might have appeared early there.
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New chapter, these guys work fast!
https://bato.to/reader#eb2814be6d464bc5
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>>54317364
>>54317408
Would you like a fucking Venn diagram?
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>>54317941
>Multiple references to this being in 2013.
Apparently our meticulous timeline was four years off, but maybe that's just a difference in the world.
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>>54317941
>these guys work fast!
until you read the end of chapter notes. at least we finally get a beach episode.
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>>54317941
Damn, I love the Hawai'ian concept for the burn deck.Wizard's Soul seems really quite fun.
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>>54318055
I'd play this game for the soul crystal mechanic alone. I'm not great at building decks in CCG but I like the idea of a card game that lets you build super meter like in fighting games.
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>holy shit she can do basic math!
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>>54318122
People in this world don't think there is value in a target re-direction spell. I don't know what they are thinking at this point.
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>>54318201
there've been multiple comments on how manaka's deck is overpriced, it might just not be a very efficient redirect. or more niche than it seems in conversation. not all redirects are made equal.
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>>54318111
Literally Cardfight Vanguard's counter blast mechanic.
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>>54318276
Was it that the cards were overpriced? I always read them as the cards being not seen as useful in competitive play. Even in this chapter people are questioning why you would ever put a card like 'Misleading mist' into your deck.
>>54318296
Well now I need to look into that game.
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>>54318402
it's not necessarily overpriced, that's just been said about other cards in her deck. it could also just be niche. something like "change the target of a spell that only targets you" is much less useful than "change the target of target spell with only one target" is less useful than "choose new targets for target spell"
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>>54318402
>Well now I need to look into that game.
Don't. The power creep is INSANE.
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>>54318455
i looked into it at one point and it seems very linear as well.
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>>54318430
>it could also just be niche
But given the cards that we've seen, specific targetted spell cards are in meta right now if Burn is top tier. This is the exact kind of card you would see. But even then it's not just this card. Her Hade's Plunder card that lets her take control of all monsters and swing with them is equally baffling why nobody else thinks to play that if Tribe decks and mass summons are also at the top of the meta.
I have always thought it was a bit contrived that nobody runs permission decks in this world or even employs cards like the MC uses when 'meta crushing' decks are a thing even in this series.
>>54318455
How bad are we talking? I thought XYZ summons in Yu-gi-oh were horrible for their cost/benefit ratio. Did vanguard get worse than that?
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>>54318487
>But given the cards that we've seen, specific targetted spell cards are in meta right now if Burn is top tier.
Well this chapter and last pretty much clarified that "Burn" is just this guy, and kinda of a surprise deck in a similar way to Manaka's. Angerls are the core of the meta.
>Her Hade's Plunder card that lets her take control of all monsters and swing with them is equally baffling why nobody else thinks to play that if Tribe decks and mass summons are also at the top of the meta.
Didn't that one cost two soul gems and like all her materials? that one specifically was atrociously expensive and impractical as the reason for not playing it.
permission being a non-starter is a bit contrived, I agree, but I think part of what's trying to be portrayed is that manaka plays the player as much as the game, her deck on its own merits looks like a pile. that's not even outrageous, I remember in Ravnica standard a lot of top-tier decks were full of one-ofs and look like a mess straight out on paper out of context, but just kinda crystalized in the environment/in the hands of capable players.
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>>54318487
It did what Yugioh did from the original release of the tcg to zexal in about 2 years.
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>>54318539
>Angerls are the core of the meta.
True, my mistake.
>Didn't that one cost two soul gems and like all her materials?
Just two soul crystals I believe. And what made it expensive is that she played it twice in two turns.
> but I think part of what's trying to be portrayed is that manaka plays the player as much as the game
That is valid, but could still be accomplished even if Permission was an accepted style in this world. I think the decision to make permission presented like this was also to feed into her personal grief. She plays in the way she learned from her dying mother, this isn't fun for her at all.
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>>54262375
>Oh no how she dare win she's so awful!
What is wrong with this girl?
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>>54319943
Due to life revolving around this card game, society HATES control players. They don't find it fun to constantly have their options shut down and cards they play negated. And due to the social stigma everyone who ever sees control play doesn't go "Oh hey that player is using control decently" they go "Oh my god it would be so boring and awful to play against that player, fuck them."
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>>54317941
>no dump
guess ill do it then. thats the first page pic is second page
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Someone spoil me, what happens?
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I'm gonna kill someone if Manaka loses because hurr I gotta find out what fun is now
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and now the last pages, this ones for the fags actually discussing the system
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>>54315777
>that guy sniffing the card he pulled right from the pack
That's the stuff
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>>54265385
Does anyone else share my burning hate for this woman (and the father for different reasons)? While dying the only thing she keeps doing is making her daughter distraught with false correlations "If you win I'll be better and heal", probably not giving a single fuck outside not!MtG prowess of the little girl. If I could enter that fucking manga I would chainsaw her fucking guts outta her.
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>>54320971
nigga are you retarded?
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>>54320971
She wanted to teach her kid what she knew. Might've gone a bit loopy from the meds she was on.
Manaka was the one who thought if she won her mom got better. That was all on her part on a misunderstanding of her mom's offhand comment about trying to make the best of her situation.
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>>54320564
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>>54320971
It's the kind of world where if you're good at the game you're set for life, sure the methods are questionable but undeniably effective
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>>54320971
What'd the father do?
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>>54321587
Fell for obvious scams bigtime.
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>>54321587
Be absolutely useless in many regards, such as not realising they don't release sets right the previous one.
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>>54321587
her father is a complete piece of shit that sent his family tens of millions of yen in debt and refuses to do jack shit about it or amend his ways. In addition Manaka accidentally flipped the loser flag so i'm expecting her to lose horribly to the shonen protag shes currently against and end up as a literal debt slave with underground illegal card games playing for her life and other shit.
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>>54323471
I fucking wish the manga's already concluded in Japan and there's just 4 chapters left.
I want more, MORE!!
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>>54323471
Prostitution doujins when.
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>>54323508
shit i was expecting the manga to go way longer then that, its set up to go exactly the way i said, did it get cancelled or some shit?
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>>54323519
I dunno, she's had a pretty decent showing. Maybe Futomi would show her a bit of kindness.
All she requires is for Manaka to become her slave, to make up for the early tournament defeat. Dress up as a maid, clean Futomi's apartment, cook her meals, and pleasure her sexually.
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>>54323591
>Not Roman
Wew lad
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>>54323601
Well of course not.
ROMAN is for ROMANCE
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>>54323601
Asahara's not mean enough.
Now Futomi with her insecurities and love of winning...
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>>54323767
Oh, Kusama would also be fun. She could take Manaka in, show her how to enjoy her body. Really teach her there's more to life than cards.
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Is Manaka the only character besides Roman that plays a multicolored deck?
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>>54323933
Aoi (the idol) is described as a "classic blue-green player" in the first chapter as I recall. Though she's not much of a character yet.
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>>54323933
Hard to say, we've only really seen one decklist, and we don't know how colours vary here. Most of Manaka's stuff seems quite solidly Black.
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>>54320579
How else could she lose?
Skill at card games is proportional to despair for all important people that aren't shounen protagonist burn players. If Manaka's soul crushing sadness abates even a little bit she won't have the necessary luck and skill to pilot her pile of jank nonsense to victory.
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>>54324169
Looking at the material costs of her cards, and their names and art, I'm guessing that her deck is mainly blue and black with a bit of green.
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>>54324792
It'll be fine. She'll remember that she cant have fun until her family is not up to their souls in debt and fall into full despair.
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Why does mangafox say that WS is licensed?
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Why do they call her Futomin anyway? Is that some sort of joke based on her real name being Hitomi?
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>>54327286
People are allowed to have nicknames.
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>>54327286
It's pretty much Fatomin.
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>>54318539
Another reason why permission is presented this way is because it is the no fun allowed play style. It's to present her as being a dick not allowing others to play their cards out. Its the stoic dead
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>>54330440Just like in real life
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>>54310592
>So she builds the most no fun allowed, anti meta deck to win as efficiently as possible.
Isn’t this how IRL card games are played?
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>>54330440
You'd think the stasis lock would be considered worse than just permission.
Or something like stax.
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>>54332483
Yeah, but here they also apply Japan's strict social norms into the mix.
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>>54332483
Some people just take what they think the best deck in the meta is, maybe tune it a bit, and play that.
Also, if my understanding is correct, it may be worth noting that Japanese MTG players are less likely to adhere to the orthodoxy western competitive tournament MTG players follow.
https://twitter.com/AJSacher/status/869009300814831616/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.channelfireball.com%2Farticles%2Fthis-week-in-magic-65%2F
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>>54334179
And yet it works, doesn't it?
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>>54335705
Failing to maximize your chance of winning doesn't mean you can't win.
By the way, I don't intend to discourage doing things like testing collected company in Affinity. Innovation isn't possible without trying things out.
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>>54321587
>>54321716
It maybe worth noting, even if it wasn't a scam, it would have basically been insider trading. Although I just did a very short amount of reading that said that the typical japanese citizen doesn't see why insider trading should be a crime.
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>>54323591
Which one is Futomi again?
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>>54335979
I meant Hitomi. She's also called Futomin, so I got confused.
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>>54320971
Manaka's thought that if she won her mom would get better is all just her little kid brain making a connection that wasn't there. It wasn't anybody's fault, just poor communication which every parent and child deals with, with terrible consequences.
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>>54338285
It wasn't so much a thought as a way of coping. I doubt she truly believed it, but it kept her going.
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>>54337774
And despite this page, it seems that she was one of the few people she stomped easiest.
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I know people say it's based on Magic, but aren't there enough differences on those cards, like them having 3 attributes instead of 2 and materials apparently not being 1:1 equivalents to lands?
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>>54344119
The only differences in creature cards are the extra stat and some icons on the upper right corner of the card. We haven't seen enough about materials to say whether they work like traditional lands I think
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>>54344873
I haven't seen any indication that they DON'T act exactly like lands so far, honestly.
They're just mostly glossed over since that's not the focus of the manga - it's the general play rather than the specific.
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>>54342294
It seems like tribal is the most commonly played type of decks due to synergies and she just plays for stomp. The type to play fat vanillas for sheer math value.
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>>54344119
We just don't know enough about the game to tell. Also the author has flat-out stated it's based on MtG.
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>>54262099
holy fuck i want someone to play the pauper 100 card teaching decks and show them all the meaning of despair
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/6cp89y/101_card_mystical_teachings_deck_50s_a_pauper/
you have more cards in your deck to literally make your opponent draw 60 cards and then lose the game.
it is a mill deck without mill cards.
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>>54351064
>a mill deck without mill cards
How does it work then? You can still be attacked/lose life while running mill.
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>>54351190
you literally make sure they cannot do anything at all.
you stop everything he does.
and at some point he will have milled his deck from just drawing 1 card a turn.
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>>54351255
That means stopping every card they play for around SIXTY TURNS, going up against their entire deck no matter what cards they start with.
I refuse to believe this works.
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>>54351297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ayRPrfmf8
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>>54351297
you must realize that after the first 5-10 turns. the opponent wont be able to do anything at all anymore.
its doesnt matter that they get another 50 turns. they will only have 1 card each turn they can use and it will be countered.
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