2000AD - Nemesis the Warlock 5

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BOOK EIGHT: PURITY'S STORY

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After the frenzied scrawls of John Hicklenton in The Two Torquemadas the art in this episode returns to something more conservative with David Roach.

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Nemesis the Warlock :
Prologue, Books One and Two >>54166975 (You) (Cross-thread)
Books Three and the first half of Book F our >>54185940 (You) (Cross-thread) Book Four >>44347421 (Dead)
Second half of Book Four, Book Five and First half of Book Six >>54200720 (You) (Cross-thread)
Second half of Books Six, Book Seven >>54216255 (You) (Cross-thread)

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ABC Warriors: The Black Hole >>54248569

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The surface of Terra, capital of the human Termite Empire, is almost uninhabitable and so vast hive cities spread underground. Stalscrapers are the stalactite-like housing complexes that make up large parts of Termite's subterranean cities, and are often so bizarrely constructed that a mere glance is enough to drive you mad.

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Torquemada's regime did indeed kill Purity's father. A thought detection van identified him as dreaming rebelliously in his sleep and so he was taken away, likely for torture and vaporisation. >>54207567

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Good use of German expressionist, Nosferatu style shadow imagery here. Why, its almost as if Nemesis cuts a sinister figure.

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>Stick to mindless trash, I implore you!
Can do Grandmaster!

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Torquey, baby, love the outfit.

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You know, I think he bought it.

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If anyone is reading along could they please bump from time to time?

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>Chain Axe Massacre!
When did 40k get chain-axes? Its an obvious development of the chainsword concept, but its funny to see it here.

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After all this time we finally get to hear Nemesis' motivation straight from the horse-monster's grille thing.

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END OF BOOK EIGHT

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/546yqq9118n42up/2000AD_-_Nemesis_The_Warlock_Book_VIII_-_Purity%27s_Story.cbr

Just two major Nemesis stories left, which I should be able to knock out tomorrow. Might even be able to do them in this thread as they're not all that long. Until then remember to BE PURE! BE VIGILANT! AND BEHAVE!

>>54258878
Can do. The use of light/shadow in this one is especially stark. Into it.

DO SLAINE NEXT

oh dang, I missed a shakira storytime

Nemesis is sweet.

>>54259130
Wow what a dick. Its one thing for Nemesis to be insane. Its another for him to be toying with humanity.

couple questions:
1. is Khaos and Order another dichotomy aside from light and dark from Slaine
2. is Khaos or any otherworldly forces responsible for Dark Judges?

>>54263501
>2. is Khaos or any otherworldly forces responsible for Dark Judges?
Maybe? I see shades of Judge Death here >>54250808 >>54250831 in Deadlock's lines. Maybe all the otherworldy forces just want us dead, and if so, does that inadvertently make Torquemada our hero?

>>54261591
>Nemesis fucks with humans repeatedly
>Is surprised when humans fuck him back and kill his wife and kid
>Blames humanity even though he can SEE THE FUTURE and could have fucked off at any time

Not gonna lie, he had it coming.

>>54258805
>tap tap let me in guys I'm a fairy!

Appreciate the effort Shakaranon. Think I will go on a 2000 ad binge buy after reading this.

Purity is really the only pure one in this

I'm kinda glad she is the only one who survives

>>54261591
Nemesis is an alien. He might be able to act human enough when it suits him but he is not like us. Trying to fit him into a human moral or psychological model can only end in disaster. It's like expecting a stray cat to make friends with your pet mice

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>>54264135
Nu-uh, warlockism is the religion of peace, humanity is the source all the evil in the world.

>>54264655
>Termight drives your children to school
>Nemesis drives them into a laser grid

Warlocks, no sense of right and wrong.

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>>54263501
Khaos and Order are another dichotomy in the vein of Moorcock's Chaos and Order (in fact they're almost identical). You have to read between the lines a little bit in Slaine, but the Earth Goddess and the other original pagan faiths are associated with primal chaos and unconstrained freedom (with a healthy side order of TREMENDOUS violence). Organised religion, the freemasons, politicians and the 'establishmment' in general, however, are tools created by extradimensional aliens who feed on suffering and want to impose a vision of bleak order on the universe.

Pat Mills has many fine qualities, but subtlety is rarely counted among them.

Unless something drastically changes The Dark Judges are their own conflict between mighty cosmic horrors, though there may well be indirect influences there. Generally speaking Pat Mills tries to tie absolutely everything he writes into one continuity and everyone else ignores him to do their own thing. He can also get INCREDIBLY upset if someone else uses his characters and concepts in ways he doesn't like - see, for example, his meltdown over Satanus - which also explains some of the ways other writers approach his stuff.

>>54255086
In a nice coincidence I found this Boo Cook Nemesis the other day.

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>>54264135
>>54261591
>>54264584
I'm always unsure what to make of the later books of Nemesis. I can't help but shake the feeling that Mills undermines some of the points he was making earlier by 'revealing' Nemesis' true motivations.

The early books of Nemesis seem to suggest that one shouldn't hate and fear others because of what they look like and that even under the skin we've got far more in common than we realise - no one type of person has a monopoly on virtue, vice, intelligence or stupidity and even the worst monsters have redeeming features like families they love (complete with embarrassing elderly relatives). Later, this develops into a theme of how one should reject extremism, and how heedlessly pursuing a crusade can eventually cost you everything you set out protect in the first place. By constantly escalating their conflict Nemesis and Torquemada destroy each other in every way that matters, to the point where all they have left is their hate for each other. Rejecting everything he was out of pain and despair over his own mistakes and deciding to embody a cold and distant ideal instead makes sense given the story, but it turns out it was always a game and none of it really mattered. He kept up the charade even in his private thoughts that only the reader was privy to. It also seems to vindicate Torquemada, at least a tiny bit, which seems a bit counter-intuitive. The next bit shows that there is a reason for that, but I'd rather not go into more detail just yet.

Mills is often criticised for going into a really self-indulgent period of writing here that lasted well into the 90s and even early 00s. That's really borne out by this next book, which is set in a version of contemporary Britain that allows Mills to comment on the ills of his day in a really blunt way. Blunt even by his standards, I mean.

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BOOK NINE: DEATHBRINGER

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I've never actually storytimed this chapter before, that's vaguely exciting.

Deathbringer brought back John Hicklenton from The Two Torquemadas for art duties. He's slightly more restrained on this one. Slightly.

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2000AD started in 1977 and Deathbringer was published eleven years later, in 1988. Assuming that the core demographic of the first issue was 8-13 then the initial intake of readers were either in a college like this one or had just finished.

Torquemada, as we know, is the most evil man in history. What could he possibly be in the 1980s but a landlord

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A landlord and a skinhead.

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A-Levels (Advanced Level) are a standard qualification intended for school leavers aged around 18.

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Oh look, jackbooted policemen with visored helmets with a cross-shape over the nose. How terribly droll.

What happened to Torquemada's decaying? I thought killing his former selves would have killed him in spirit, and even though Nemesis went to stop Thoth from killing the 1st Torquemada, Nemesis himself ended up blasting his face off with a fire breath. Yet this didn't seem to hurt future Torquemada that much.

Ah, who cares, wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey ... stuff.

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The look and battlecries of Torquemada's thugs are based on football hooligans and skinheads.
Second-generation punks (ie. the ones in the 80s) were often ex-punks and Oi! is even a distinct sub-genre of music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oi!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_N_ojt_HOs

During the 1980s the significance of political affiliation grew enormously among many skinhead groups, splitting the movement into left and right wing camps. Tabloid media at the time concentrated on the extreme right fringe, popularising the view of the skinhead as a violent fascist idiot. That's also the bit Mills (who think of himself as a punk and something of an anarchist) concentrates on.

Any references you see to D.M.s are to steel-toed Doc Martin boots.

>>54265575
Its not perfectly clear, but Torque's still somewhat rotten - that's why he has the nose plaster, its to cover a gaping hole. The first Torquemada was important because he was a particularly awful iteration that was next on Thoth's hit list, presumably there would have been even earlier ones going back to the beginning that would have caused even more damage.

You're right though, he's a whole lot worse in The Two Torquemadas, to the point you can see his whole spine and most of the back of his skull in some parts. He's also looking remarkably intact considering the Terminators had to cut him out of his armour using nuclear cutters at the end. Its explained at least a little bit by the fact that he's been treated for his injuries for ten years longer than Nemesis has been here, but its still a bit of a plot hole.

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Of course Margaret Thatcher supports Torquemada. I'm honestly surprised she didn't turn out to be Torquemada in a wig.

>>54265772
Hard to look a cool and mysterious alien wizard in a wife beater.

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>>54265818
I think that's the point. That, and to show the increasing parallels between him and Torquemada.

>>54265830
Is that why Torquemada's neck is so elongated?

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A Giro, or Giro Transfer, is a payment made from one bank account to another instigated by the payer not the receiver. In the 1980s, before the rise of electronic payments, the fortnightly "giro" payment was the normal way of distributing benefit payments.

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>>54265857
Never thought of it that way, but that seems very plausible.

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This is Torquemada's take on one of Nemesis' recurring speeches >>54167803 >>54200781, to hammer home the theme again.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPG6Ak5FASk

>>54265887
Especially looking at the two last panels in >>54265836. And he had his exposed spine in first Torquemada's time, like how Nemesis has his spine thing.

Don't know how much to read into it, but it's something of note.

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>>54265936
The exposed spine is incredibly obvious here as well.

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>>54265927
>mfw last panel

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>>54265985
What, don't you like twue wuv?

I have no idea why Torq breaks the door like this, by the way. I mean, yeah, Shining reference, gotcha, but... backwards?

>>54266010

Gotta use that long ass neck for something, right?

>>54266010
because he's insane?

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>>54266038
Well yes, there is that. How silly of me.

>>54265393
That is a good cover.

>>54266010
That's not love, that's arch-deviancy, that's decadency of the highest order.

And it makes Nemesis' mouth even more strange. Fuck space magic orifices, man.

I have to admit. this last part with stuart and shit? I don't understand a thing

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Good lord, Nemesis.

This is going to end with Nemesis and torq doing each other in at the end isn't it. As the bit where nemesis went and saw all through time, the "who was not there at the end" could be equal parts him not seeing thoth, or not seeing himself.

>>54266107
>Truth is stranger than pictured

i lost it

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>>54266132
That would be telling!

Although its obvious that it was a reference to Brother Mikron exiting Stage Left. Mikron's the key to all this.

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END OF BOOK NINE.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/n65c3smt6irjt8u/2000AD_-_Nemesis_The_Warlock_Book_IX_-_Deathbringer.cbr

>>54266067
Sorry I don't have a textless version at a higher resolution

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After Deathbringer, Nemesis was put on hiatus... for ten years. The Final Conflict began in October 1999 with the end of the millennium in sight and with only the occasional short story in annuals to tide fans over in all that time. The Final Conflict is a little too long for this thread, but we can do some of the short ones here.

First up, to link the events of The Black Hole and Deathbringer, the Nemesis and Deadlock teamup "Warlocks and Wizards"

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The ABC Warriors continued on to write the Khronicles of Khaos, where they would also pick up a new team member.

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I've got to stop for a while, but I'll do one more.

>>54258878
Bumping for you posting a personal attack on President Trump, you lieberal trash.

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Welcome back Brother Bertold, keeper of the Bestiary
>>54186473

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/tqepttbake42akq/2000AD_%23824_Nemesis_the_Warlock_-_Shape_of_Things_to_Come.cbr
http://www.mediafire.com/file/h8utccl7nclapw4/2000AD_%23700_Nemesis_%26_Deadlock_-_Warlocks_and_Wizards.cbr

See you all later. And in the meantime, please enjoy this musical interlude from 1985!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMM61Y5CEU

>>54266652
The 80s were a magical time

>>54266590
Those pesky time travelling satirists. They got no respect

>>54266485
>Donjon

Is that like a mix between a dojo and a dungeon?

>>54266603
WHAT IS HIS MOUTH SUPPOSE TO BE!!!

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Would you?

>>54270229
Implying you'd get a choice

>>54267575
Medieval spelling anon, it just means dungeon

>>54270229
I love how twisted Nemesis looks. He's crooked even when he's standing straight.

>>54266496
Deadlock is the most fuckable ABC Warrior. It makes no sense that Hammerstein and Joe Pineapples get all the attention.

What's the best Nemesis collection one can get online? I'm trying to figure out the best book to get thanks to these threads.

>>54258293
Thanks again shakaranon
Truly the hero of /tg/

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>>54271846
That would be the "Complete Nemesis the Warlock", in three volumes. Each book is 300+ pages, and the third volume has glossy colour pages where applicable.
https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/GRN282

Together they have everything except the ABC Warrior stories, which are in the Mek Files (specifically Volume 2 of three)
https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/GRN510

If you specifically want high quality reproductions of the Eagle comics colour edition of the story, you need to look for Nemesis the Warlock: Deviant Edition
https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/GRN477

The Deviant Edition uniquely also has the Tomb of Torquemada, which we're going to do now!

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>>54267690
Its a space magic orifice, please try to keep up anon. As you can see its full of tubes!

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>Self Abuse: The Facts!

Robert Maxwell (1923 – 1991) was a publishing tychoon and MP who, it emerged after his death, had stolen hundreds of millions of pounds from his companies pension funds.

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Blimey, that's quite an injury.

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/7v1sdansh5m1e5k/69.Nemesis_the_Warlock_Poster_Prog_1995_Nemesis_-_The_Tomb_of_Torquemada.cbr

>>54270727
>>54267575
It can also mean a keep, fortified tower of a motte or early castle. Its used that way in things like Ivanhoe.

>>54270902
Oh come on, Mek Quake love for you is like a truck.

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>>54272784
Fuck this shit, this makes no god damn sense. Switch the protagonist, make one of the female warlocks the hero. Their mouths at least are shown to work with some consistency.

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Tomorrow we'll finally reach the end of the story of Nemesis, but we still have one last loose end to tie up: the ultimate fate of Candida Torquemada.

Candida was Torquemada's third wife and the mother of two of his children. The stress of losing these children and her husband (several times, depending on how you count Torquemada's various resurrections) planet combined with being denied a perfect peace at the end of the world drove her utterly insane. Wise soul that he is, once it became clear that she was beyond help Torquemada divorced her and remarried the psychotic Sister Stern

Candida had few visitors until one day a merry jongleur appeared....

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Art for this episode provided by Chris Weston as his only contribution to Nemesis. Weston did quite a lot of work for 2000AD during the 90s, particularly on Canon Fodder and Indigo Prime. He's still working.

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At this point Torque's got to be more like a veneer of skin on the top of a pretty battered skeleton.

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All heart that man.

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Uh-oh.

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Weston draws one of the best versions of Blitzspear since O'Neil.

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jongled.com

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The End.

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/azbm8b6a3gmt8m5/Nemesis_the_Warlock_-_Bride_of_the_Warlock.cbr

Coming Soon: The Hammer of Witches and, nearly twenty years in the making... THE FINAL CONFRONTATION.

Don't ever worry that your 2000 AD dumps go unforgotten, Shakaranon. It's 3:29 AM and I am awake only to read them,

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>>54275733
Thank you, that's always really nice to hear. I've seriously got to find time to do them earlier in the day though - I'm only a few hours behind you and unlike Dredd here the late nights are killing me!

Just out of interest has there been anything in particular you've enjoyed or that you've found helpful? I do try to bring it back to directly /tg/ topics when I can, perhaps unsuccessfully.

>>54275851
I liked it a lot.

I think I prefer dread to nemesis though, the charger design it's just too wierd to enjoy any of the panels he's in.

The "but our final confrontation is soon" stuff makes a lot more sense when you realise nemesis is doing it for the fun- if he just killed torq like that the fun would be over

>>54275851
I've loved fall.of Deadworld and the dark judges stuff the most so far, but I read thirteen and Nemesis top, despite never having heard of them before.
2000AD in general tends to tickle the whacky bone in a way I like

The fact that Nemesis can just appear anywhere like that makes you wonder just how much he actually wants to kill Torquemada. Maybe it does require a lot of meditation and planning to pull off, so he can't just teleport behind Torquemada at a moment's whim and nothing personnel him (thus why he didn't do it when his wife and son were murdered). I guess Khaos or some other power must be controlling his actions to some extent, staying his hand till the correct time. Or he knows when to do it for the maximum impact, or that he can't deviate from the timeline he witnessed during his spirit walking thing.

>wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey.jpg

>>54280955
Or he just doesn't want to win- in the one that just got posted, he had torq on the rocks, he could have killed him there and then. But if he does that, he wins and the game is done. And wheres the fun in winning for good?

>>54281035
He wasn't much interested in some game when his wife and son got murdered. Yet all he could do is charge in guns blazing and get nowhere. But when he's not on a crazy murder spree, he can come and go as he pleases, but doesn't take the opportunity to kill Torq.

This series has really made Nemesis a total asshole and a villain. Early on you could have imagined that even though he's aloof and callous, he's at least trying. Now he's basically a god who can't be arsed to. Hope he gets shot to death in an alley in a botched mugging by a nobody and dies forgotten.

>>54281070
Just because Torquemada is a villain doesn't mean Nemesis is a hero. That's really the whole point

>>54281070
>>54281470
I never thought of Nemesis as a hero. Someone who refers to himself as a fucking warlock and a demon can't really be anything good.

>>54281470
>>54281944
He's not even an anti-hero, he's not a lovable rogue, he's not even trying. He's behind a lot of the shit because of lulz and he blames everyone else except himself for everything that has happened. He doesn't even want to make things right, except when it suits his own needs.

>a fucking warlock and a demon

Being a warlock or a demon shouldn't automatically make you all bad. Just like being a mercenary or a killer makes you automatically bad. There's plenty of protagonists who do bad things and who don't think highly of themselves, who still try and do the right thing.

>>54283784
Being a demon, holder of the sword sinister, shape of things to come, the deathbringer "and many more" isn't exactly the same as being a mercenary, anon-kun.

>>54283995
Being a demon with a magical sword, with a destiny before them, being associated with death, etc. are not automatic marks of a villain, anon. There's plenty of anti-heroes who are demonic, carry evil weapons, etc.

You're also forgetting how Nemesis was introduced as the leader of the resistance movement and how he was working left and right to defeat Torquemada and the armies of Termight. It's not like he was presented as a total asshole from the start.

>>54284150
Yeah, I know that, and I ain't saying that he's a straight-up villain - not until book 8 atleast. And true, in the beginning he was much more of a good guy, but I still had a hunch that he'd turn out not to be.
The name's just too big of a clue, you know.

>>54284380
>The name's just too big of a clue, you know.

How so?

>>54284461
...You know? Nemesis? The warlock?

>>54284653
I don't see how being the downfall of an evil empire and the arch-enemy of literal Hitler lends itself to being the villain.

>>54284751
You dense motherfucker. Do you know what those words mean? Don't you see how they have kind of a negative connotation?

>>54285797
>Nemesis
>the inescapable agent of someone's or something's downfall.
>a long-standing rival; an arch-enemy.

Yes, a nemesis can be an agent for bad, but also for good. I don't think people who live under Torquemada's tyranny see his arch-enemy and the agent of his empire's downfall as an inherently evil thing. Just like how Judge Dredd as a name isn't exactly glowing with all the good in the world (judgement, dread), but he still tries to do good stuff and fights for something greater than himself.

>>54273121
>Oh come on, Mek Quake love for you is like a truck.
This is actually true. For me it's like Deadlock, Blackblood then Mek Quake.

Hi everyone, I'm really sorry but its looking increasingly unlikely I'll be able to do the last book today. I should, fingers crossed, be able to start on it tomorrow morning and if this thread does somehow survives I'll link to it then and there. I could say I'm just roleplaying the fact that the last part was endlessly delayed in the real world too, but its really just boring family issues.

So you don't have to wait if you don't want to, I've uploaded some of the next bridge stories in advance

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ui41ci4tnwdbb1u/01_-_Deadlock_%26_Nemesis.cbr - a longer version of >>54266480 this story with Nemesis and Deadlock teaming up to empower themselves with Khaos.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/n3toj971abnniit/2000AD_%23901-903_Nemesis_the_Warlock_-_Hammer_of_the_Warlocks.cbr - how Torquemada arms himself before the final confrontation. There is some female nudity which I'm going to have to censor before tomorrow, so be warned that it is Too Deviant For Work.

Looking forward to being able to give this a proper send off tomorrow, and again, I'm really sorry about the delays.