Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

Since the last thread reached it's limits I guess this has to go here.

>>54249145

Nice job playing texas sharpshooter. Now it's my turn.

Okay let's see
>Stormcast Eternals and mortal warriors fight side by side
>Sigmar must use every loyal warrior he can muster

>Devoted fight bitterly to secure sites of divine power, often with the aid of the Stormcast Eternals
Who's the 'auxiliary' now?

>Welcome the aid of Sigmar's chosen, but have staunch warriors of their own that march to their defence and that of their allies.
We're a strong independent freeguild who don't need no stormcast *sassy finger wave*

>stout Dispossesed duardin form shield walls next to sigmarite clad Liberators
>next to
standing behind Stormcasts? Stop drinking gold paint and learn basic english.
'Next to' means next to. Not behind. Next to. Adjacent; proximate; alongside; abreast of; beside. They're not standing behind them whatsoever.

>Greatswords-wielding city guard are regiments that have faced the tribes of chaos and emerged victorious
I'm sorry? I though the SC were doing all the fighting . .

>Generals on griffons with demigryph retinue
They sound pretty competent on their own

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Realms of Light and Shadow. Who else is looking forward to finding out what happens there?

I'm confused by the cover of the seraphon battletome. The weapon held has lightning cracking on it, but seraphon weapons are generally sun-themed, not lightning themed like SC are.

>>54249560
I think it'll be very interesting.

Elves will probably get a release eventually, if only because GW has to explore those realms, and the gods of those realms are elven in origin (teclis/tyrion and malerion respectively).

It would be similar to the fyreslayer's association with aqshy and the kharadron's association with chamon.

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>>54249387
>>Stormcast Eternals and mortal warriors fight side by side
>Vast armies muster before the gates of Azyrheim and march out into the lands retaken by the Stormcasts Eternals

>Who's the 'auxiliary' now?
Someone who didn;t fight.
>We're a strong independent freeguild who don't need no stormcast
>Ranks of soldiers and noble sons of Azyrheim have sworn their allegiance to the lords of the Stormhosts
Rememver your place chapter serf
>Not behind.
Yes, it means near/after
>I'm sorry? I though the SC were doing all the fighting . .
And where it says they won it without SCE?
>They sound pretty competent on their own
City of Secrets says no.
And all your citation doesn't invalidates mine

>>54249560
>Who else is looking forward to finding out what happens there?
I am, but they will need new models

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Alright, maybe I asked my question the wrong way. Are Greenskinz Boyz bits like arms with shields compatible with 40k Orks Boyz?
Also
>No greenskinz hero is usable in Skirmish

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Some of you Rotten-things are alright

Don't travel to Ghyran tomorrow

>>54249729
they should be the same size, but you might need to do some work on the joints

>>54249729
>Alright, maybe I asked my question the wrong way. Are Greenskinz Boyz bits like arms with shields compatible with 40k Orks Boyz?
Yes

Don't you get it? You can cherrypick. I can cherrypick. It means nothing either way.

>>54249811
>I can cherrypick.
No you cannot when their fluff and novels says they are irrelevant police-forces

>>54249776
I want to magnetize them so I'm ready for a lot of work
>>54249788
Thanks mate

Question number two. What makes the Greenskinz so shitty faction on their own? Is there any way to make them usable? Maybe they are fine but only in some specific kind of games like 1000pts?

>>54249651
>>They sound pretty competent on their own
>City of Secrets says no.

I was talking about demigryphs. Were there demigryphs in CoS?

>>54249844
>I was talking about demigryphs
Okay where demigryphs and generals sound pretty comeitent, if they are literally Storhosts serfs.
Also, demigryphs literally Stormcasts light cavalry

>>54249833
>What makes the Greenskinz so shitty faction on their own?
No shooting, no magic
>Is there any way to make them usable?
Yes, pick savage orcs

>>54249575
They are still Azyr spirits, meaning they get lightning effects. Alternatively, weaponized glowsticks look silly.

>>54249618
>It would be similar to the fyreslayer's association with aqshy and the kharadron's association with chamon.
So basically Dark Eldars and Biel-Tan

>>54249833
>What makes the Greenskinz so shitty faction on their own?

They are just shit everything, like Beastmen.

And the fact the models are all like 20+ years old and they will never get an update and mostly look crap doesn't help

Sprinkle some generic boyz around maybe a spear-chukka or some Trolls, but ultimately just go mixed Orruks, add some savages, and some Ironjawz for heavy hitting, that would actually look cool and i've never seen it done

>>54249828
"Novels" meaning one novel now? Nice.

>>54249880

Hahahah.

Acting like a lore expert but doesn't know the difference between Gryph chargers (mounts of vanguard palladors for SC) and demigryphs (mounts for demigryph knights for freeguild).


> literally Storhosts Serf
>Serf

'an agricultural labourer bound by the feudal system who was tied to working on his lord's estate'

1. Learn english. Use a dictionary when you come across hard words. You can do it. I believe in you.

2. A freeguild general might have a herb garden in his city or garrison hall but he sure isn't a farmer or manual labourer.

>>54249920
Eldar is plural. It's like the word 'fish'. Saying 'fishes' in any context outside describing a multitude of fish species would be incorrect.

asked last thread and got no response

would an SCE force built around Castellants, Gryph Hounds, and Liberators with shields work? or did I fall for the slow melee list meme again?

here is what I am thinking

>2 lord castellants
>2 units of 10 liberators with swords and shields
>2 units of 5 dogs each

exactly 1000 points

>>54249956

I wrote a paper for a reputable scientific journal. Now that singular = plural, I guess I'm an expert in my field. :)

>>54249893
>No shooting, no magic
I understand that orruk boyz with bows and Orruk Great Shaman are not fulfilling their roles very well?
>Yes, pick savage orcs
Oh boi. I'm already playing Skaven but I wanted to jump into 40k with Orks and thought that "pure" Greenskinz might be useful in both systems.
>And the fact the models are all like 20+ years old and they will never get an update and mostly look crap doesn't help
I'm not a tipper or a snowflake but old orcs models are actually growing on me. I hated the gorilla-butt boyz but when I saw them IRL they are not this shitty desu

>>54250019
>but doesn't know the difference
They looks pretty simmilar, and that's was the point.
>1. Learn english. Use a dictionary when you come across hard words. You can do it. I believe in you.
It was reference to 40k.
>2. A freeguild general might have a herb garden in his city or garrison hall but he sure isn't a farmer or manual labourer.
Yes, he is servant of Stormcasts Eternals

>>54250122

Ordinary orcs could use a overhaul of their basic boyz though. Shame that orcs, which have always been a horde style army are relegated to the background in favour of their larger more armoured cousins.

>>54250122
>I understand that orruk boyz with bows and Orruk Great Shaman are not fulfilling their roles very well?
Yes
>I'm not a tipper or a snowflake but old orcs models are actually growing on me.
Shit taste, you have to work on it.

>>54250165
You're the kind of person who has so much 'taste' that they'd vomit at the sight of the very art GW world's are founded on.

>>54250178
>unironically liking WHFB models
What a cuck

>>54250165
the only new models that don't look like ass are the Kharadron ships and arguably the Orruk Brutes

>>54250152

>It was reference to 40k
No it wasn't.

>he is servant of Stormcasts Eternals
He's a servant of sigmar. Likewise in 40k, the astra militarum serves the imperium and the emperor, not the space marines in any direct capacity, except where incidentally acting as allies. Also learn english pleb. Your sentence should read 'A freeguild general is a servant of the stormcast eternals'.

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>>54250161
> Shame that orcs, which have always been a horde style army are relegated to the background in favour of their larger more armoured cousins
Well, shit. Then I will magnetize these bits only for practice's sake so I will not fuck up the ork boyz arms

>>54250165
>Shit taste, you have to work on it.
Pic related but I understand you. Deff Dread and Killa Kans are the things that are pulling me into green arms - not infantry

>>54250239
>unironically liking WHFB models
I like Rats models - go on, call the fuckin taste police. I bet they will unrape you

>>54250239
wHaT A cUCk

Go drink gasoline; it has as much 'good taste' as you do.

>>54250263
>No it wasn't.
Yes it was
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Chapter_Serf
>He's a servant of sigmar.
>>Ranks of soldiers and noble sons of Azyrheim have sworn their allegiance to the lords of the Stormhosts

>>54250292
>I like Rats models - go on,
Which ones?

>>54250165
Got a citation for that? oh wait that's a personal opinion.

>>54250335
Lightning Cannon, Screaming Bell and Warlock Engineer are my top3. Clanrats are fine too but painting them is painful

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>>54250351
>Got a citation for that?
Yes

Stormcast are canonically castrated, discuss.

>>54250382
Stormfiends much better

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>>54250395

>>54250434
>denial

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Aspiring Gobbo here after 15 year hiatus. I was given noce advice last thread but in regards to the giant cave squig and prodder gob warboss, is there a braindead easy conversion for it than using skarsnik?

It would feel wrong for me to use him after so many years of seeing him as the iconic Warlord to just a jimmy jim standard bloke.

>>54250395
Hahah that's your "proof". A fat ork shoved into fantasy terminator armour on a troll dragon?

>>54250454
>t.fantasycuck

>>54250443

>denial that that's not an argument.

>>54250476

Everyone who disagree with you is a fantasycuck? Dude get a grip, and not on your dick while wanking to stormporn.

>>54250448
>It would feel wrong for me to use him after so many years of seeing him as the iconic Warlord to just a jimmy jim standard bloke.
Grew up already

This thread makes me want to start Runewars.

>>54250503
>Everyone who disagree with you is a fantasycuck?
Nope only one who prefer old ugly models

>>54250395
>lego man riding a broccoli

>>54250517
Why?

>>54250542
cry more groggy

>>54250531
I like both old and new models thanks very much you presumptuous cunt. Unlike you however, I don't blindly suck the dick of everything new, and collectively hate everything that isn't post-AoS.

In fact I have 3 age of sigmar armies in the works, stormcast, freeguild and sylvaneth.

You're the cancer of this imageboard, and the reason GW blocks comments on their youtube channel. The only reason you're here instead of other forums is because any forum with decent moderation would've gotten rid of you already.

>>54250542
an apt description.

>>54250045
>still no response
I really did fall for the slow melee meme didn't I?

>>54250644
I don't want to say it but yeah, it seems to be slow as fuck but on the other hand it might end up playable. Proxy your shit and give it a try with friends. One day Anon told me that wind mortars are shit and I shouldn't use them but they ended up as the most useful models tho

>>54250608
>freeguild
>ge of sigmar armies
Oh you...
Also
>unironically enjoying playing npcs without characters
Let me guess, you also IG and Nids fan?
>>54250644
>I really did fall for the slow melee meme didn't I?
Yes

>>54250719

Fucks sake man, let people play what they want. Again you're don't seem to understand anything nuanced. Hell, I bet you'd have to use a dictionary to even understand the word 'nuance'.

Quit the presumptions dickhead. The first army I played was blood angels, then orks, then necrons. I've never played guard.

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>People are still replying to obvious troll shitposting
Guys, get your shit together. Stop feeding the troll and let him go back to /40kg/ or we will fuck with him like with the nidfag

>>54250515
Its a good model too, just would feel out of place though. Any conversion suggestions?

>>54250787
>Fucks sake man, let people play what they want

but then they might continue to like what I don't like!

>>54250787
>Fucks sake man, let people play what they want.
Fine, but stop whinning about your ugly old shit

>>54250876

Every time someone makes a post regarding what you personally think is a legacy army or anything resembling 'old ugly models' you come and shit all over it.

No one is whining; you are intruding.

>>54250926
>No one is whining;
>GW p-p-p-please gib me rules, make me relevant!

>>54250941

I never asked for rules . . . and as for relevance, I'm satisfied as is.

Again with the presumptions?

>>54250448
You can take skarsnik, the named character. He has points and rules.

>>54250990
Then why do you shitposted about it whole previous thread?

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>>54250926
>>54250990
Stop fuckin replying to his posts

>>54251027
Some people don't like mixing and matching warscrolls from compendium and GA books. But it is the closest option if you must use him as a named character. If you want something similar thematically, why not take goblin warboss on squig mount?

>>54250549
Because of how many retards get baited by one person. Constantly.

>>54250990

Just ignore him already. He's not worth the effort.

>>54251099
The goblin warboss on squig mount is different than a warboss with a cave squig. They have separate warscrolls.

>>54251153
>similar thematically
Read, nigga, read.

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>>54251153
>>54251099
I wouldnt mind that just the goblin on squig looks weedy. I have the special white dwarf goblin warboss on foot and was planning in using him as my leader.

Then i was recommended to use the prodder and giant squig. Im not WAAC by any means but id love a bit more kill power as well, especially what i may run into.

I do have the classic gobbla model though from the 90s so maybe if i add a pointy stick to his back that would be acceptable?

Squig mount sounds cool though and dead killy but i have no idea how useful it is.

>>54251683
>but id love a bit more kill power
Then pick actual army

>>54251848
For the warboss**. I want to stick to gobbos.

>>54251936
>I want to stick to gobbos.
The there is no reasons to seek
>more kill power
Since such thing doesn't exist
Grew up and pick actual army with good design and rules

>>54250515
>>54251979
If you got nothing to add, why even post?

>grew up
Also its grow.

>>54252048
>advice
>nothing to add

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>>54249760
>Don't come to skavenblight tomorrow

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realm of shadow would be really neat to get a release for. I would love to read the fluff about it.

>>54252179
>I would love to read the fluff about it.
One word: Commoragh

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What points do you think would be fair for this? And/or do you think it needs any tweaking? Just trying to think of something that fills the lack of multi-wound models for Dispossessed and/or a little bit more Rend.

>>54250045
don't got for swords go for hammers as it's easier to get +1 to hit then it is to wound.

>>54252189
>One word: Commoragh
>thinks dark elves are the same thing as dark elder.

Go back to 40k shithead

>>54252199
10 wounds, 2 attacks per with rend and a 4+ rerollable save and a 4+ ward.

that should be 200 for one unit of five, maybe 220.

>>54252248
>dark elves
But we are talking about shadow aelves,

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Working on some black orcs for a skirmish warband

>>54252295
ain't shadows dark?

>>54252414
But they're yellow and green.

>>54252276
I'll have to playtest it and get back to you. Thanks.

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>>54252466
:^)

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>>54252179
Realm of light too. I think that the Aelves from the realm of light are going to be really interesting.

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>>54249345
Soon

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>>54252904
gad damn it Vince, you're not getting a TK release. You may have more Ushabti than anyone else on earth but that doesn't mean GW is going to give you a Battletome.

>>54252904
this guy will be smug as shit if settra is ever released

So, Fyreslayers, SLANNESH and Ogor start collecting soon. Fyreslayers one looks especially decent.

>>54250335
>Which ones?
i unironically like eshin

>>54249729
As I said in the last thread before the slav shit it up, both sets of Boyz are the same size. I have done head swaps, body swaps, arm swaps they are all compatible.

>>54252972
I still dont understand why GW squatted tomb kings

Ushabti+ necropolis knights+skeletons+warsphinx would have been a pretty decent little faction

Did they clash that much with the new setting?

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>>54253780
>I still dont understand why GW
join the club brother

Not even Tzeentch can understand their decisions sometimes.

>>54253839
>>54253780
i liked tomb kings, but i always felt they barely fit fantasy too. They are too limited, too much of a limited theme. There is jsut too little both players and developers could do with them.

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Got a skirmish question for you all.
How would you deal with an opponent that starts a skirmish campaign with a warband consisting of a bloodstoker and bloodreavers? My destruction force got completely overrun in the two games of the campaign that I played. Got a bit frustrating. Kill one bloodreaver, there's about two more to replace it.

>>54253780
TKs weren't as gay as the golden homo stormcasts or the awful naked dwarf models

>>54254346
what's your warband?

>>54254382
Started off with a warchanter, one 'ardboy, one savage orruk arrowboy, and three moonclan grots.

>>54254355
You can't really copyright ancient NOT!Egypt.

>>54254438
What options did you take on the grots?

>>54254498
One had a net, and the other two had stabbas. The other two that I added in for the next game also had stabbas, nothing too different.

>>54254438
I'd probably have taken 2 savage orcs instead of the ardboy

>>54254566
Probably a better idea. I'm used to my ardboys shrugging off hits, but it didnt work so well this time, what with bloodreavers all having -1 rend with their axes. Come to think of it, are there any other 1 point units that come with a constant rend?

>>54253934

From a pre-AoS perspective they weren't any more limited than the traditional fantasy Undead when it comes to variation in units and character.

They were fine as another "same race but different" faction, what with the 3 different flavours of elf.

With AoS merging the elves I guess any other "variant" faction was doomed, so Brets and TKs got binned.

>>54254540
Was the dude also rerolling 1s to hit?

>>54254643
>With AoS merging the elves
what did he mean by this?

>>54254723
He was not, no. But he thought his units were dual-wielding the axes and the blades, since each model was holding a small knife with their axes. However, reading up on their rules, that definitely should not have been the case. Essentially, each model was getting two attacks when they should've been getting one.

>>54254754
ooh that's pretty bs with the rending axes

>>54254754
It seems what fucked you up was that constant rend and the fact that only two models in your warband had any kind of synergy when your opponent's whole warband synergized. Destruction and Death are currently rather gimped in skirmish for lack of choices outside of certain factions.

>>54252248
>thinks dark elves are the same thing as dark elder.
>implying they aren't

>>54254824
>>54254830
Truthfully, I hadnt planned on going up against so many models in the first round. Dont think I was mentally prepared for it, otherwise I would've drowned my opponent in arrowboys.

>>54254862
it would have been pretty closely matched if he hadn't had double the attacks imo, bloodreavers are pretty shitty

>>54254897
Yeah, I remember that they were supposed to drop pretty quick, and my grots were able to kill a couple at least, but it was the numbers against me that definitely hurt. I should also note that he's added in a korgorath for the 3rd game when we continue the campaign in a couple of days soooo.. yeah. There's that.

>>54254862
Along with what >>54254897 has to say, you should have made all three grots netters. You can take three nets for every twenty grots.

>>54254942
I'll definitely remember that. Thanks

>>54254984
No prob my dude. Save points for a brute. He may help out more than that ardboy. Or a troggoth. The netter penalty to hit stacks with its own

To the anon working on the Fimir battletome: The Meargh's spell, Malefic Glyph, would be great if it performed the second suggestion of activating baleglyph weapons on a 5+ rather than a 6+.

>>54255514
That's me--cool that someone is still looking at that. I also had an idea about a week ago of maybe having the spell cause Baleglyphs to do MW on a 6 (instead of doubling) since there's not much MW generation in the army. Everything so far is mostly based on the few playtests I've done, usually against my friend who just throws endless waves of undead at them.

>>54255737
Mortal wounds sound much better.
Also I'm wracking my brain for artefacts ideas. One should be called Ancient Hand Axe to harken back to the days where their miniatures came with hand axes. I was thinking it could be a once per game mortal wound generating attack but can't decide between D3 mortal wounds or just a flat value of 2

>>54255978
I've been basically using the FW Fimir Warriors as my base to build off of. From there, I have two different other fanmade books I've been going through for ideas (one for WHFB, and one for AoS), and then anything else I think of on my own. Pretty sure the WHFB book has an artefact section in the back; maybe I'll give that a skim.

>>54254731
Probably that all elves are order now, even dark elves

Are they going to reform this game or what? It's getting a bit stale now, it needs more depth. I don't think I'm going to be happy with the GBBII just tweaking a few point values.

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I'm interested in starting Age of Sigmar.

Want to play elves.

I came across the Order Draconis artile on 1d4chan, and found this list.

1000 Point Army
-Dragonlord (x1) -Dragon Blades (x3 units of 5 knights) -Dragon Host Battalion (x1)

Is this actually any good?

If so, maybe i've found my first army.

>>54258329
Maybe? GW shows they can listen after everyone rejected narrative play and released the GHB

>>54258345
>elves
>legacy army

No just kidding.
Your guys will be zippy fast and your dragonlord will easily fuck up most opponents he encounters especially if you take a quicksilver potion. Be wary of shooty armies and anti-monster armies/units. Otherwise revel in your elven superiority over the lesser races of the mortal realms.

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>>54252433
>ain't shadows dark?
So what?
All realms armies stronger or more highly-advanced than legacy armies, so aelves will be closer to Commoragh (which basically shadow realm now)
>>54252851
Why do you think so?
>>54254355
Cry more groggy
>>54258345
>Is this actually any good?
Nope, pick actual army

>>54249880

Akcshually

Demigryphs are griffons without wings, AKA half eagle half lion/tigers

Gryphchargers have hooves and are half eagle half horse

Easy mistake to make

>>54260068
>look at me I love cock!

>>54260237
>projecting so hard

>>54260068

This my friends is called bait. Do not respond to bait. Ignore bait.

>>54252199
probably 200 for 5

4+ ignore is insanely good

>>54260288
>Boy I sure love it up my ass!

>>54260353
And where exactly bait?

So when are we gonna get content? The last thing we got was Plague Garden and some Rogue Trader-ish adventure novel months later. We need some gaming content soon.

>>54250644
>>54250045
>>54250715
damn

I really love guys with swords and shields

how do I not fall for the slow melee meme?

>>54260419
No

:^)

Are there any magic items in this to customize heroes or is it purely characters presented as is?

>>54260432
BUT SEASON 2 WHEN!

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>>54260419
>So when are we gonna get content?

>>54260512
Then what the hell was dragon thing standing on an arm thing? The lion face thing?

>>54260541
>Then what the hell was dragon thing standing on an arm thing?
Anything, remember we didn't even get the whole Death Guard release

>>54260633
They wouldn't have a lion faced anything. And the arm that had a serpent like dragon on it was thin.

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>>54260653
>They wouldn't have a lion faced anything.
Yep, SCE will have it
>And the arm that had a serpent like dragon on it was thin.
And it might be part pf big Mortarion model

>>54260678
TOTALLY called the first part. Doubt the second.

>>54260512
Next year probably.

>>54260678
There is no serpent dragon in leaked images of Mort model.

And arm was too thin for a primarch, and wasn't power armoured.

>>54260824
Guys it looks like the slav invaded the WHFB thread

>>54260857

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>>54260456
There are a few options for customization laid out in the books such as Battle Brew for Destruction or the Quicksilver Potion for Order. Some armies even have items specific to them like the Sylvaneth. Eventually (we hope) all armies will have options in their battletomes like the Sylvaneth do.

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>>54260431
don't let your dreams be dreams

collect those gryph hounds
built those liberators
get ready to lose every game

>>54260879
Dude, with all honest I saying I NEVER TOUCH their dead thread

>>54260840
>And arm was too thin for a primarch
I am not saying it was primarch's arm, but you know, he kind of daemon prince now

>>54260938
Fuck off back to your hole.

>>54261067
>says legacyfan

>>54258345
>Is this actually any good?
No shooting, no magic, Highborn dragon is too tiny

>>54261107
>Boy oh boy do I sure love cock!

>>54261369
>legacyfan keep projecting

>>54261369
>>54261067

Stop responding to him and his bait. He ruins threads because you let him.

>>54261423
Just teport him. A better option.

>>54261676
>Just teport him.
For what? I just advising and encouraging newcomers

>>54261752
Get a venereal disease from a toilet seat

>STILL replying to subhuman trash
Stop

>>54260393
I think I based it on whatever Troggoth it is that has the Too Dumb To Die, which I think was a 4+. But yeah, considering they can also shieldwall which troggoths can't? I see absolutely no issue with making it a 5+ instead.

>>54261817

Responding

Do you think they will introduce a character that will make troggoths battleline as long as you take only troggoths? Like Throgg used to in WHFB. That'd be pretty cool in my opinion, an all troggoth force.

>>54260068
>Shadow aelves will look like Dark Eldar
please...

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How viable are Wanderers? They look like they have a pretty varied roster on the website and those deer infantry look really cool

slav need not respond

So i heard there was gonna be some balancing. Something about a buff for the lizad boys?

>>54263531
*cavalry

So is there actually anything to substantiate the idea that there will be elves coming out? I mean i see that a lot of people are talking about it, but they've done that before. There anything to it?

I've been kind of out of the loop for a while, but if i wanted to start and SCE army which books would I have to buy? The SCE battletome and GA:Order books had pretty much nothing in them rules wise last I saw, just printed copies of the warscrolls and a lot of pretty pictures.

Nobody on ebay seems to be selling liberator or prosecutor parts that aren't the starter set prosecutors/liberators sadly, so I can't save money through converting starter set libbys.

>>54263531

I like them but a lot of their stronger stuff is compendium like the dragons.

Hit and run tactics are a lot harder in AoS due to lack of movement shenanigans and because of objective based play. Always having to fight over objectives really crippled armies that specialized in denying melee with movement.

They still have ok alpha strike shooting with glade guard but they're outclassed by updated/new shooty armies that have synergies and stuff.

I think they need a serious rework to become competitive in matched play but I still love their aesthetic and they're fun.

nobody in my area plays age of sigmar and I have no friends but I want to play

>>54263721
Thanks anon.
That sounds like a fun time especially for casual games. I was never much of a wood elves player, and a fragile fast army sounds interesting enough

>>54263637
You want the SCE battletome. Early battletomes didn't have much aside from lore and battalions in them, nowadays they have those as well as army special rules, traits, and relics.

>>54263816
alright thanks

>203 USD MSRP for the book models I want for 500 points
>366 for 1000 points

I'll have to do some shopping around to see where I can save. Shockingly despite GW's change in policy this year to selling GW products online, a lot of places still don't sell GW products via webstore.

>>54262653

I'm okay with them looking like dark eldar. Dark eldar are cool.

>>54263879
Fuck off evan

>>54264101

What's with the hostile attitude my friend. Also that's not my name.

>>54263531
Their models are really cool, but like all Elves they have the issue of not having easy access to mortal wounds. Vanguard Raptors are also better at shooting and it's a shame they lost Waywatchers who were cool snipers.

As always, they have access to a lot of low rend attacks that have a good chance at hitting but miss the popular units like Skyfires, Kurnoth Hunters, Stormfiends, etc.

On that note, adding some Kurnoth Hunters is a good idea since atm (GBH 2 might change that) there is literally no reason to play mono wanderers.

>>54264151
>they lost Waywatchers who were cool snipers.

Wait...they lost Waywatchers? Those are iconic wood elf units.

>>54264155
Yeah it's shitty but true. Wardancers and Warhawk Riders were also axxed, mostly due to being metal/finecast. Glade Riders were also removed. They gained Sisters of Avelorn though. Never quite understood why Glade Riders were removed since they were a plastic kit and could have been repackaged to a 5 man unit (box contained 8)

>>54264155

They're compendium now. They have rules. Not sure they're worth it for their points cost.

>>54264151
Is the General's Handbook slated for release soon? if so do you guys have any idea when?

>>54264197
August I guess? They have announced it, just not the date. The previous one was released in July and they want to do a yearly version so August would make it sense.

>>54263552
>So is there actually anything to substantiate the idea that there will be elves coming out?
Literally nothing

>>54263800
>fragile fast army
>wood elves
Pick one

>>54264595
Have you not seen the absurdity of Wardancers, Glade Riders and Warhawk Riders?
Life shouldn't exist at those speeds.

>>54264941
They are less mobile than Sylvaneths and much weaker than sylvaneths there is literally zero reason to play Wanderers untill proper update (battletome and models)

>>54263544
Buff and balancing sort of different things

>>54264941
Sadly, none of those are for sale anymore.

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>>54264521
>>54263552

There is this for substance.

>>54258345
>Is this actually any good?
in small games its "okay" but not great. It doesn't scale well due to the fact that its just 2 units and you're lacking flexibility. The list is a decent hammer but not every enemy army is a nail.

>>54266714
Dragon and hand looks very poorly detailed for main part of model.

>>54266816
>Dragon and hand looks very poorly detailed for main part of model

well the whole assembly would be half the size of a liberator shield so how much detail do you expect at that scale?

>>54266877
>so how much detail do you expect at that scale?
A lot, it's GW model.

>>54265001

Unlike Sylvaneth, they don't require a Wyldwood to move extremely fast.

Glade Riders move 14", can re-roll their run distance and can run and shoot in the same turn.

Warhawk Riders move 16" and auto run 6".

They're plenty fast.

>>54268004
>They're plenty fast.
They are squatted

>>54268022

You can still get them 3rd party and/or kitbash them if you want.

>>54263784
ha ha loser

I have about 12 chaos warriors from a while back, can I use them for skirmish or should add in some other units?

>>54268117
Yeh you can use them, get the book and read it, then make a warband.

>>54268117
Chaos warriors are a fine unit, but they are in multiples of 10 now in matched play. 180 points for 10 models if I recall.

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>>54266714
I really hope that is shadow aelves

Is the Age of Sigmar Skirmish book any good with fun fluff?

Also, for Moonclan Grots in Skirmish, can they take their warboss?

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>>54249912
>weaponized glowsticks look silly.
Lightsaber aren't particulary silly looking.

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>>54268537
leaked concept art for "realm of light" elves

>>54268786
Much better than current one

Does anyone have a scan of the shadows over hammerhal rules and fluff books?

in need of advice from fyreslayer players (i know you exist out there!)

if the start collecting box is true i might be picking one up cos i want to build/paint a magmadroth and use the rest for skirmish.

My question is the magmadroth, it comes with 3 different character options.

Can i make 1 character on magmadroth and the other 2 on foot? or do i need to get 3 magmadroths to get the 3 different characters on foot?.

>>54269281
The magmadroth probably wont be in the box. Its €85 alone, compared to the €65 for a SC box.

You do get the parts to make the other two characters in the kit though.

>>54268485
it's like 30 pages long, the fluff there is about 5 pages long and gives you very brief overview of Shadespire city.

>>54269313
The fyres are absurdly expensive compared to other factions- they did lower the price of SCE at one point (by repacking mostly), so it's not impossible they will bite the cost to sell at least a few more nakey midgets.

Where my flying rat skryres at GW?

>>54269426
Cool. Will pick up. Any ETA on the newest General's Handbook?

>>54269856
Never. AoS is all legacy, there will never be another army released.

>>54269937

b-b-but kharadrons

>>54269962
Nope. Legacy army, probably just repacked squats from 40k.

>>54269512
My bets are on 10 zerkers, 5 heartguard and one of the heroes, like the ironjawz and sce boxes

>>54270735
But honestly who fucking knows. Gw have been releasing things out of left field for the last few years. Maybe theyll drop something stupidly good value.

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>>54268786

I would buy that, even knowing its a blatant SC rip off, I would love it still.

That should be the new battleline troop choice for light elves.

8" move, bravery 10, 1 wound, 3+ save, 2 attacks, hits and wounds on 2+, rend -3, damage 1. Rolls to wound of 6+ do a mortal wound instead of regular damage. Ignore the first unsaved wound assigned to this model (absorbed by the shield emitters). can run and charge in the same turn. Ignores intervening friendly models during movement.

>>54271267
See I would go more, 6" move, bravery 7, 1 wound, 4+ save, 2 attacks at 3+/3+, Rend -1, 1 damage. Reroll 1s to hit, can run and charge, same ignore ability (funny we both thought of that lol).

I'd be curious as hell to see a SC tabletop game. Especially zerg with Creep mechanics sort of like Wyldwoods, burrowing, and spawning lots of little units.

>>54268485
Unfortunately, the grot warboss for moonclan is not usable in Skirmish. Same with their shaman.

>>54271505
>weaker but more realistic/fair stats for a battleline option
fair enough
>creep mechanics
shit yeah. creep tumors: 1 wound model with a 6+ save and no attacks, 0 movement: grant a +2" movement bonus to all friendly units within 6 inches and -1 movement to all enemy units.
Queen: once per turn may deploy 1 creep tumor within 3 inches
at the start of the game before the first turn deploy up to 4 creep tumors anywhere in your deployment zone.

>>54270735
we already know what's in it. a magmadroth, 10 heathguard and the hero you can make on foot from the magmadroth kit.

>>54253690
Lets speculate what will be in the Slaanesh Start Collecting Box!. My call is on 10 Daemonettes 5 Seekers and a Big Herald Chariot. (but I am secretly hoping for a updated Herald model)

>>54271756

No we dont. Maybe you should see if you can find the source on that. Then look closely at it.

>>54271822
yes we do faggot. stores have already had this confimed. learn to source yourself.

>>54271813
you're nearly right. it's the exalted chariot. so you can make the big one or a couple of the small ones.

>>54272156
That what I mean with the Big chariot. But Ill likely make 2 small ones out of it. I would Still dig a new Herald though. Even tho I already converted like 5 Different ones

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>>54272140
Still no sauce shitbird. Some fucking goobers saw pic related and have been spamming it everywhere. Look closely and see if you can see whats wrong with it. Notice also how none of the reputable rumormongers have said anything either.

>>54272247
>dose seraphon pics on the side
Jeeze, talk about a lazy shop

>>54272247
no, shit for brains. it's been confirmed by local retailers from the gw reps. this ain't hard.

>>54272322
>s-s-s-s-sauce

>>54272322
Not him but I'm pretty sure you're the only one saying that, I haven't seen anything about it in any rumor thread on any forum, most of them are just guessing at whats in the box.

>>54272358
Mongoose Matt on Dakka. store owner who regularly posts what the gw reps are selling. i quote
"I have confirmation of the new Start Collecting contents (from GW rep).

Fyreslayers: Magmadroth, 10 Vulkite Berzerkers, Runesmiter (bit cheeky, as the latter comes from the Magmadroth kit)
Slaanesh: Exalted Seeker Chariot, 10 Daemonettes, 5 Seekers
Beastclaw Raiders: Stonehorn, 4 Mournfangs"

read nigger. read!

>>54272427
that seems to be quite the deal. there is no reason for anyone to buy the magmadroth kit now

This is essentially GW reducing the price of some of their kits, and yet idiots will still bitch.

But to sell the magmadroth for less than retail and include another hero and 10 models is pretty killer

>>54272484
it's no different than the carnosaur from the seraphon box. who would ever buy that seperately now?

>>54272484
The Death SC basically gives you free skeletons + hexwraiths for purchasing a mortarch.

>>54272484
and as an aside, the hero comes from the magmadroth box anyway. so it's only the bezerkers who are free.

>>54272247
>Dwarfs on the front
>Lizardmen on the side

I knew it. They're Jews!

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>>54272247
fuck me i still can't get over the symmetrical dwarf

anyone have a scan of the tokens you get with the right warscroll packs? mostly interested in Khadron and Fyreslayers

>>54249345
this game has been abandonded by gw

>>54274003
you were abandoned at bitrh

>>54272418
MongooseMatt from dakkadakka's said it. He IS a shop retailer.

>>54274100
>implying GW tells their store managers jack shit

>>54274291
>implying he's a store manager.
he's an indenpendant, you idiot. That's why he get's gw reps in. read the fucking posts.

>>54274360
still means jack shit. GW doesnt tell their store managers anything, and they tell independent retailers even less. You really are a naive moron

It's the same stupid "my uncle works for nintendo" argument

>>54274381
don't be an ignorant fucktard. he's an independant. the reps go to the stores to sell them their shit. how the fuck can they sell it if they don't tell them what the stock is?? your stupidity is quite astouding.

>>54274416
Oh you sad sad little man. How much you think you know, and how little you actually know. I wonder how you survive without somebody watching over you.

>>54274441
thank you for conceding the point. even if you are too much of a child too admit it.

>>54274462
>thinks i conceded the point
>fails this much with reading comprehension
Thankyou for continuing to show your ignorance.

>>54274483
you can stop now. the minute you stopped arguing the point and just went into full insult mode, you lost. now you're just embarassing yourself.

>>54274520
Kid, I just realized that there was no point in arguing any points because you were just a moron. I just needed to call you out on being one. It really was the only way. But you will continue to reply like you feel you have something to prove. You are welcome to do so, although It won't help you much.

>>54274710
Come on slavposter, we can still see your style..

>>54274710
uh huh. here's your last you, you precious child.

>>54274766
Lol, omg you're still posting? You really are desperate for validation, aren't you?

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Anon, you still play with toys?

>>54275727
Of course. I have no friends so what else would I do?

>>54272427
I don’t really want to add to this tire-fire of a discussion, but the Magmadroth kit is $110 US, and SC! boxes are uniformly $85 US. We have the example of the Carnosaur at $85 being in the SC!, but do we have an example of another kit that is more expensive than the SC! being included within one? It could cone from either brand, AoS or 40k; it would juat serve to set a precedant to believe this dude online.

>>54254346
That one Ironjaw has some cartoonishly bara abs going on there.

>>54275727
of course. it keeps us forever young. As the normies age and become bored with life in front of their fucking tv, we only revel in our hobbies and the new releases to look forward. Lol, normies aging.

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>>54275727
Ackshually m'lady (or should I call you m'girl, for holding such a childish and naïve viewpoint) I do not "play" with "toys," as you put it. I participate in a semi-competitive tabletop miniature fantasy wargaming hobby, represents the culmination of over four decades of building upon the fantastic legacy of Tolkien and developments in tabletop strategy gaming.
It involves the building and painting of immaculately crafted models, such as Admiral Monopolyhat of the Duarphen Sky-Mariners, as well as Grog Symmetro of the Duarphen Furnace Smiths.
I wouldn't expect your infantile brain to know anything about the aforementioned depth of hobby and craft.
Now shoo, return to your Instantgrams and Keeping Up With the Jenners, the real men have to work to be done.

>>54276591
>AoS
>fantastic legacy of Tolkien

>>54260068
Mandrakes could actually be reused for AoS since they are stated to shift between realities.

I am starting AoS with 50 Renown Warbands, and my friend is taking Nurgle.

Lord of Plagues, Blightkings, and Plaguebearers.

Could I make something that could stand a chance against this with Seraphon?

I have a lot of choices, does anyone here have experience with Seraphon at Skirmish level?

I just want an idea of what works and what doesn't at such a small point value.

>>54272427
What a great units variety

>>54275727

You say in the age of sigmar general . . .

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should i buy it

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>>54280007
>Stormcast Eternals
Just buy the Gryph-hounds and then reconsider your life choices.

No I'm kidding. Go for it

>>54280007
Sure thing. SCE are cool. They are a secondary army to me, but I am a fan of their aesthetic and fluff (moreso than 40k space marines).

I'd say get that, then later get the starter set dudes. That should round you out to a decent size force.

Once more to the dude working on them Fimir, Meargh-daughter's spell seems way too strong on anything lower than an 8 to cast. Also leave the summoned at Shearls but at the number of wounds inflicted. It would be ridiculous to suddenly have a unit and a fifth of these assholes just pop out of nowhere.

So i heard there was like a smaller scale campaign system with custom warbands for AoS or something like that. could you all tell me about it? Or am I crazy?

>>54277654
I don't know much about seraphon, but I do play Nurgle, and one thing I can tell you is that they are slow as fuck, so you can always try to outmaneuver them with ranged and stay out of charge range.

>>54280213
There's one official and one fan made. Warhammer Skirmish is the official one, while Hinterlands is fan made. Both are pretty good in my opinion

>>54280190
I have a set of the starter set dudes, but I want the models with swords and round prosecutor shields and there are none of these parts on ebay, I've checked. Just lots and lots and lots of the starter set dudes. Plus I think the partial-eclipse-meets-sun-and-splendor motif is kind of cool.

>>54280233

Could you tell me a bit about them? I don't know that i'm interested in getting into AoS right now, but I could go for a skirmish level maybe.

>>54280245
I'm short Skirmish is a good and fun game for when you want fast and quick matches and campaigns. Hinterlands have a few more rules regarding cover, casualties, levels and experience. But besides that they are pretty much the same

>>54280258
I'm = In
I can't write today it seems

>>54280258
>>54280264

Are either of them your dudes friendly?

So I wanna do a dwarf army steeped in nordic mythology so I've chosen kraka drak as my clan origin. I wanna make jötnar to go with my dwarves. I've never played warhammer or known much about the lore, but are there any order aligned giants?

>>54280283
Both are very Your Dudes friendly. AoS is an inherently Your Dudes friendly setting so far with a few exceptions

>>54280307

How friendly to custom kitbash models?

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>>54280283
Yes they are very Your Dudes friendly. For example here is my 30 renown Skirmish warband:
We have Lucnir the Infectious in the middle, behind him we have his Blightking comrades Egnalax (left) and Skadol (right), to either side are two Ungor brothers and their warhound companions, Gash and Poisonfang (right), and Hellgul and Knifehowl (left), the two Ungors were hired by Lucnir in order track and guide them through Shadespir, in exchange for a cut of the treasures that lies within

>>54280324
As long as you find a ruleset within reason to use or if you and your local gaming group can agree on custom rules for your custom miniature and then agree on a reasonable sounding renown cost for it, it should be fine.

I mean, Duncan Rhodes uses his custom made spearmen made from Kairic Acolytes and Marauder heads, I don't see why you can't use a kitbashed miniature or two.

>>54280392
GW always encourages conversions, they just prefer if you only use their parts. It's mostly the players that get very ass-blasted about it.

On that note, guy from my gaming group wants to Kitbash his demi-gryph knights into Vanguard Palladors. He is doing work on them to make sure they wear the appropriate equipment and he wants to make sure they are slightly elevated but do you think it will work?

>>54280392

Is there anything fluff wise that would work as a party of questing knights?

>>54280416
There are implied several different types of human settlements throughout the mortal realms, they just arent all documented, so that leaves you to create your own kingdom, particularly a chivalrous one with questing knights. Put a high fantasy spin on it if you want.

BTW this is the duncan video people are talking about
https://youtu.be/nYHy9Fq2HME

>>54280414
I think the Pallador's model is larger than a demi-gryph knight's? His biggest worry would probably be autists bitching he is trying to power game with smaller bases.

>>54280416
Gimme a moment, comparing some stats. I mean you could do them on foot and just use Freeguild Greatsword stats, but then they wouldn't really be Questing Knights now would they? You could just use the old Questing Knight stats in the Compendium, you just need to get your opponents to agree to some reasonable sounding renown values. Of course I am just talking about Skirmish not Hinterlands

>>54280473

There used to be a rules (faction?) for questing knights? I really don't know much about the fantasy side of things.

>>54280496
I the he refers to the old brettiona models from WHFB

Can you use marauder horsemen in skirmish?

>>54280473
They are on rougly the same bases, but the Palladors are bigger. His current plan is to mount them on rocks, that way they should be roughly the same height.
And we only play inside our gaming group of 6 and everyone has signed off on his plan so there shouldn't be an issue technically.

>>54280285
Alternative to this question, getting very nordic vibes from chaos marauders. If I were to de-chaos them, what dwarf unit could I run them as if I wanted to say they were jötnar?

>>54280531
You'd probably be looking at some of the Fyreslayers there

>>54280517
Yes you can. They are 4 renown a model up to 10 models

>>54280567
I want to do a centaur themed warband. Any heroes I can use alongside them?

>>54280545
Thanks m8, height and line of sight isn't a very huge thing in this game right? People wouldn't be assblasted if I decided to covert those dudes and run them as fyreslayers?

>>54280325

You know what would improve them a lot? Round and rounded bases for all.

>>54280586
I don't think there is a mounted hero option that would work within Slaves to Darkness, unfortunately. I know there is a mounted lord option in Khorne Bloodbound but he is on a Juggernaught...

>>54280587
If your local gaming group agrees to it, it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Exact LoS usually isn't needed and there isn't a cover mechanic in Skirmish like there is in Hinterlands. If you go Skirmish, should be A-OK! Hinterlands I would ask and agree with your opponent first.

>>54280638
Doesn't the chaos lord have a mount option?

>>54280520
Should be good to go then. Best of luck to him on those kitbashes!
>>54280496
There are old rules for legacy armies called Compendiums and they have rules for every miniature in the range and counts as rules for a few really niche models like for example a Black Orc Warboss counts as an Orc Warboss

Here is a link to Bretonnia's Compendium
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-bretonnia-en.pdf

>>54280648
He does? Well then problem solved right there!

I don't know too much about Chaos and their options. I know a lot about Destruction, though.

>>54280664
I think he gets rules for a chaos steed. I was just asking because I don't know the skirmish rules for mounts

>>54280664
Nix that, phone finally charged up enough to look up rules. Chaos Lord and Chaos Lord on Demonic Mount are two different units and the Lord on foot is the one specified in the Skirmish rules.

>>54280619
The Ungor raider and warhounds are a few years old, from when I first started playing. That's why they are a bit badly painted and on square bases, compared to the lord of Plagues and the Blightkings

>>54280638
>>54280638
Huge thanks, no one usually answers my questions.

>>54280652

Thank you very much for all of your help.

>>54280683
Just glad I can encourage and help a fellow player.

>>54280285
>kraka drak
What?

>>54280680
Sad times

>>54280717
the most nordic motherfuckers to ever live

>>54280723
There is no North-Realm.

>>54280729
Yea?

>>54280735
Yes

>>54280740
Neat.

>>54280714
Just glad I can be of any assistance.
>>54280721
Well as it even says in the rules, if you can agree with your opponents on what seems like a reasonable points value, you can use pretty much anything aside from the large monsters and warmachines. Considering a Lord of Chaos on foot is 20 points, I'd shoot for around 26~8 ish for his values. You'd have to be starting around 35 points to make it legal though but mounted dudes are (usually) expensive for a reason.

>>54280745
Is there any way to play without a hero and just sort of buff a standard guy?

>>54280652

So i'm reading through this compendium, and I have no bloody idea how this works to be completely honest. What's good, what's not. No idea. Anything i can look at to get a baseline feel for how things work in this game?

>>54280842
You gotta have a model with the Hero keyword in Skirmish. That dude is your general and is integral to how battleshock works in Skirmish as you test against their leadership. That being said, you can always take a wizard. Some nice Mystic Shields here and there to make your guys slightly tougher.
Of course if you are just goofing off you can take whatever you like, but if you're gonna try and play an actual campaign, gotta have a hero.

>>54280855
I would run a few little scenarios of a few dudes on their own against about a block of ten grots or so to see how effective they are.

Moonclan Grots if it really matters.

Otherwise, I am sure someone out there has also made a bretonnia themed skirmish warband. Look on Youtube to see if there are any batreps using them or just any Age of Sigmar batreps featuring Bretonnia in general.

>>54280745
I got a skirmish question too if you have time.

Are sister of the watch listed for wanderers

>>54280855
And I would love to assist more than I have but I gotta hit the sack. Best of luck and come back tomorrow in the new thread and bring this up again. When I get off work, I will be more than glad to help again.

>>54280888
Yes. You may take them 4 points each to a max of 10 models.

Good night

>>54280890

Thank you very much for everything mate. Sleep well. I'll probably be here tomorrow.

>check for new age of sigmar shit
>still no new death faction
>death will always be represented by naked hobo voldemorts
lmao

>>54282488

tfw 'deathrattle' is an actual fucking faction name . . .

>>54282488
I know your feel, aelves will always be represented by generic elves, not something cool like >>54268786
>>54271267

>>54268786

Yuck. Just coz we have stormcast doesn't mean we have to go full world of warcraft.

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So how well do Freeguild do in Skirmish?

And was it ever explained why they still have Karl Franz's name written on their shields?


>>54282644
>tfw 'deathrattle' is an actual fucking faction name . . .

Skeletons are renamed after the one thing you shouldn't do to their bones. Ironic, really.

>>54282703
>And was it ever explained why they still have Karl Franz's name written on their shields?
yep, legacy armies

New thread when?

>>54283378
>>54283378
>>54283378

new realm